10 Things To Know BEFORE Buying a Kawai Piano
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- We have Kawai pianos in the spotlight today presenting 10 things you should be aware of when you're shopping for Kawai. We are not making this video to compare Kawai to other piano manufacturers but it’s hard to discuss Kawai pianos and their history without mentioning Yamaha, Baldwin, and Steinway & Sons which all played a part in the story. We have put together a list of 10 things to help you know more about Kawai as a company before you buy a Kawai Piano.
00:28 Skip Intro
1. 01:39 The Yamaha Connection
2. 04:47 Family Owned Business
3. 06:39 Attention to Quality
4. 09:29 Dependable Piano Builder
5. 11:56 Carbon Fiber Millenium III Action
6. 15:56 Digital & Hybrid Pianos!
7. 18:18 Know Your Series
8. 21:26 Made in the USA
9. 23:54 Professionally Voiced
10. 25:55 Award Winning
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I own an 18 year old Kawai baby grand piano for my home and it is the finest piano I have ever played. Kawai is a wonderful builder.
I want to buy a kawai Piano , about 5000 dollar , and i don't know should i buy with 5000 dollar , can i buy a good quality grand piano, or upright piano kawai brand. Because i love warm sound and Heavy keys
@@annhu8994 Easily an upright for that price point.
I bought, financed a 2015 satin black 5' baby grand for twice 9 grand. Beautiful instrument. I also had the opportunity to play the 225 Shigeru Concert Grand. Unlike any I've played before, and I've played Steinway and Bosendorfer as well.
It's always a joy to watch your videos. I always learn something new. I doubt I'd have gotten this in depth info on Kawai, or any other topic for that matter, covered in such an easily digestable way. Keep the videos coming please!
Thanks. Really enjoyed hearing the history.
Awesome deep dive into Kawai. Well done!
Very informative video, thank you for that. Greetings from Germany
I love kawai s tones. The more videos I watch the more kawai fan I become.
Thanks guys - very helpful video!
love the sound of the K500 so sweet
Purchased a Kawai ES920 yesterday.... being delivered tomorrow.... very excited !
how is it?
It’s really good, my customers love it .
Wow didn't know that Kawai - Yamaha connection 100 years ago!
I have my grandmother's Baldwin-Howard piano that I learned on as a child. It needs work, but it's a pretty fantastic piano. I wasn't aware of the connection to Kawai, but it makes total sense. For its size, it sounds much bigger and bolder, particularly in the bass register.
very interresting , thank you for the time
I bought a digital Kawai back in 2005...because... it was the only digital piano brand I could find in Bogota. But even then I realised that the sound was far superior to both the Rolland I owned previously and any of the Yamaha digitals (which, for me don't even sound like a piano at the top end of the keyboard). I still have it and use it daily - but I'm looking to trade up - mainly because the A flat below middle C makes a noise every time I hit it (which happened during moving for about the third time). I would definitely buy a Kawai again!
I played a Shigeru Kawai for the first time just today in a nice piano showroom. It's quite something. Out of all the proper grands I tried in that showroom, the Kawais have the nicest actions. I will be getting an ES120 when it's available as I want something that's the most portable and I am just a beginner. I currently have another digital at home, the Roland FP-7X, which I also like, but in hindsight it is overkill for what I need (got it many years ago) and it's not really portable.
I'm actually going to buy a Kawai MR380, seems pretty good. (Digital Piano) So, I'm going to go for it.
This was useful as I am looking to get a Kawai …. Am in the research/shopping phase….
I’m getting my Kawai CA49 Satin White after tax return this February 😃I’m so excited!!
Have you got it? I just placed an order and felt sooo excited!
I got one 😁
@@Joyce-ff7ms omg yes! I absolutely am obsessed with it. I got footage on my ig in case you want to hear it @alotus.nine
Alotus, you’ll be very happy. I have a friend who has one. Very happy! Did you get it yet? Huge backlogs due to supply chain disruptions
@@kenpeters9807 yep. I’m very happy with mine
Another thing you should know is that getting a Kawai digital piano serviced is a nightmare. I've had keys break twice on my CS-8 during the warranty period, and right now I've been trying to get them fixed for over two months, and both Kawai and my local dealer are almost completely unresponsive.
We've owned a k800 that we bought used about 15 years ago. Amazing piano.
Hi Matt, you have to try them. The Novus 10 is the same millennium iii action that Kawai uses in all of their grand pianos. If someone didnt like the feel, then they wouldn’t like the feel of Kawai grands. I like them the best. Individual taste. The Novus 5 is an upright action, the real thing, just as the “10”. All 3 use the same sound engine. The CA99 has the soundboard. The “10” does not. Im not sure of the “5”. I have a CA98 (virtually the sane as a 99). The transition to a Kawai grand and a SS grand is seamless. No pianos are identical but you can play on a 99 and go to a grand or vive versa and your technique is the same. To an upright, a difference - personal preference, i dont like the response of uprights. Before you judge, try the CA99; there must be a reason why ‘everyone’ compares to it.
Cool info
I have a 1976 5' 9" Howard I bought new from a Baldwin dealer. Put the much larger Baldwins to shame both in sound and feel. Showing her age but still sounds great.
I currently have a 1990 Baldwin L but the opportunity to acquire a KG5 from 1977. I've gone back and forth a lot on this.
I used to have an HOWERD grand. I often used it for my Opera practice as it only needed tuning once every seven to nine months. Luckily being in Australia I was often having the piano tuned by Liberace’s only tuner here. Just amazing to see a piano tuned ONLY by tuning fork and the natural ear. Try getting someone to use their ears today. Getting back to the HOWERD, just brilliant action from key to strings.
I love Kawai's Millennium III action!
Buying a digital piano a few weeks ago I spent hours in my local store trying all the available pianos. They had mostly Yamahas, some Kawais, a couple of Casios and some basic Rolands. Kawai's pianos felt best to me. Oddly, most customers didn't even look at Kawai's pianos. People looking for something cheap went for Casio. Others who wanted to spend more only looked at Yamahas.
Did you get the es110?
@@Sam-lt1pb I kind of would have liked the NV5, because how often do you buy a piano? You might as well get a decent one. But I don't expect to play it at that volume for the next 10 years. It will be mostly at a moderate volume through the speakers and a lot using the headphones. So that nice sound board would be mostly wasted on me. I also really hate that touch interface. It takes ages to boot up (but you can actually start playing after a short while) and swiping between the pianos is nothing like using a smartphone (not even one that is laying flat on the table). You need to swipe extremely carefully, otherwise you end up a couple pianos further than you intended.
That being said, I wouldn't bother with a plastic key action. With the ES110 you are looking at the most basic plastic key action Kawai offers, i.e. Responsive Hammer Compact. I only tried Responsive Hammer Action III on the CN39 and lightly touched Responsive Hammer Action II on the CN17. I quickly ruled out these after trying actions with wooden keys. Grand Feel III on the CA99 and CA79 are just that much nicer. The weight is more realistic and the keys are not bouncing back like crazy.
I went for the CA59. It has a nice sound. You can crank up the volume loud enough for me in my apartment and I actually liked the action the best. Grand Feel Compact is a bit heavier then Grand Feel III, so you kind of keep better in touch with the piano.
I'd highly recommend to try out as many pianos as possible before buying. If you are really on a tight budget and need to stay in the price range of the ES110, I'd recommend to take a close look at the Roland FP-10. Roland has the best plastic keyboards in my opinion.
@@denisbeck1116 that looks like a wonderful piano. I'm a complete beginner, havent touched any piano keys yet, so I wouldn't know how any of the key actions differ in terms of quality. Most music stores near me dont stock much pianos either, so I'm having to buy online and go by reviews. The kawai brands seem to just have a much more beautiful sound than any others.
@@Sam-lt1pb Yes, soundwise Kawai is just way better than anything I've seen from Casio. It sounds a lot more natural. Yamaha's sound was good, but from what I've heard, Yamaha samples every other note and interpolates the ones in between, whereas Kawai samples every note individually. But in the store I really couldn't tell.
I think beginners need nice instruments too. It definitely should be something you fall in love with how it sounds and how it feels. Practicing then becomes time well spent to hone your skills and be able to enjoy the instrument even more, instead of a chore. But you really don't need much skill to start to enjoy the piano. I'm teaching my wife who doesn't play any instruments at all yet, and she's been able to enjoy it from the first time.
Just go to the store and try the ones they have. All of them. From the cheapest to the most expensive ones. Then return to the cheapest ones. You will notice the difference. Listen carefully to the sound and how each note decays, how intervals sound. Play octaves for example and listen for imperfection in the tuning. Real instruments do have them. Nice digital pianos have them as well (and it's adjustable). That's part of what makes them sound more like a real instrument.
If you don't play an instrument at all, ask a friend who does to join you, even if he is playing something different. Listen to what the people in the store are telling you. But be careful with that. You might end up with an instrument that the sales person thinks you might buy. Recommending cheap ones for beginners is a common theme. Spending 500 € might be more attractive to you right now than spending 5000 €. But how often in life would you like to buy a piano? Choose wisely. ;)
It is a curious thing. Before I became a bit serious with piano, I’d never heard of Kawai. Obviously, the general public hasn’t either. Yamaha spends bocoo bucks on advertising, and it obviously pays. I hadn’t heard of Kawai; but i had not heard of Fazioli, Mason & Hamlin, etc etc etc.
Interesting Kawai music history lesson learned. Thanks so much! However, I still prefer Yamaha which is what I currently have.
Thank you! Excellent explanation of what is Kawai. So, Kawai builds Baldwin's Howard pianos and Steinway's Boston line but you didn't say if they have the same scale design as their parent pianos, or what makes them second tier quality pianos. And how do they differ from Kawai's own pianos?
Kawai will never manufacture a product better than their own. Look it all up on the net -all the info is available.
Actually the "Shigeru" Kawai is the top piano chosen by competitors winning almost every internationally in piano competitions in the last 5 years. The Shigeru SK-EX is $256,000. Its the carbon action and the box wood bridge and a 15 year pre-seasoned sounding board. Hand wound strings etc...
I wished you went into more detail about Kawai's upright series, especially those that could be found in the used piano market. It's confusing because Kawai changed their upright series names so many times, it's hard to tell which is newer or older model series. For example, the BL, YUS, K series, like K3, K-3, K-300, etc?
I agree! A new video regard that would be appreciated by many people.
Hello. I am in the market of buying a used upright. I found a Yamaha m1e and a Kawai cx4, both in pretty great shape. Which one should I get?
Shigeru Kawai is up there with Fazioli and Steinway in the sound quality of their pianos. I could be wrong but I believe the action of the Shigeru Kawai will outlast both Fazioli and Steinway because of the use of carbon fiber material in its action.
Plant fiber vs carbon fiber. Plant = carbon, plant fiber = carbon fiber?
Have a Kawai CA-99. Pure beauty. Next purchase is a grand of some sort. Will need to fix a new living for that though. Really appreciated this video, passion is key to success.
@Kamran Harandi I have had the CA 99 about 10 months now and it quickly became part of my life.
If you have the budget and interest, it is well worth it. The soundboard tech is excellent. Remember you can test play it beforehand, which I did.
It's good enough that it will hold steady until my next purchase, which likely will be a GL-30 ATX2 (or bigger), in other words a grand piano that can use headphones, just amazing what's happening with the piano tech.
@@zerksari I have an open space condo that is about 1000 sf. I am hesitant thinking the CA99 may be too loud due to the soundboard. For this reason, I am thinking the CA79 might be better for my situation. With covid, I have not been able to try any of the kawai's but am sold on them after my UA-cam deep dive. I'd appreciate your thoughts on this after your 10 months of ownership. Thanks!
@@astarhighabove you can control the sound level just like any other digital keyboard, so I don't see why that should factor in.
If you have concerns, I recommend you find a way to testplay the 99 and 79.
Is the CA00/98 WORTH IT? DOES A WILD BEAR CRAP IN THE WOODS? We have a CA98. Love it, who needs anything else? We are retired but I do some consulting work. We ordered a GL-20, then heard a GL30. In America, it’s a ridiculous price increase - but it is a magnificent instrument. I played on, and listend to, a wide range of pianos, including the supposed best brands. Nothing compared, especially when considering price. J Sari, I fully understand your feelings. I can’t wait for my new GL30 to be delivered. Kawai is a phenomenal piano. At least you know you cannot go wrong.
@@kenpeters9807 geez man what wonderful times you'll have. I am looking at the GX-2 which is slightly bigger than the GL30. But if hard-pressed I'll do the same and go with the Gl 30.
The combination of grand with silent play is a killer if you have the funds.
It's a piano by piano assessment. I accompany my students to the local Kawaii dealer and we meticulously test tone/touch dimension. I have played K-300's and K-200's. Some of these have for me shaky, bobbly touch from key to key, and maybe I will find one or two in a sea of Kawaii's that excels at two synchronized levels, touch/tone. My student and I doted on one specific K-200 that she purchased. As for Baldwins, NO --not the company that thrived in the early days 50's, 60's, 70's. .. the company tanked and their China made grands and uprights are plainly inferior. I sold my China made Baldwin because after two years (it was a new piano) it had redundant repetition issues.
Thank you for an interesting perspective from an experienced user. I wonder if those K-200/300 that you have found underperforming could be adjusted by skilled technician to make them on par with best variants. These are acoustic instruments, after all, they are pretty simple and every bit of their mechanics can be meticulously adjusted by a qualifed technician.
@@VladK-1 Perhaps. But yet the dealers should prep them so buyers have a better idea of what they are investing in. By the way yesterday I sampled a few Kawai GX grands and was very impressed.. Gx-2 and 3 in particular.
I like video's about the action on the Kawai ES110 with a dual sensor, which seems to be the easiest action to play nuances in volume.
It has been said triple sensor would be better for MIDI information to your DAW, which will be my main use for it.
How can the internal voicing be so dynamic on the ES110 with just a dual sensor, which to me should translate to dynamic MIDI output into your DAW?! Regardless of dual vs triple sensor...
Any thoughts on that (or just anyone)?
One other thing actually holding me back from purchasing is the fact the ES520 and ES920 were newly introduced end of 2020 and the ES110 could get a replacement. Any thoughts on that?
Please answer this. Thanks
Steinway Boston’s were built In Tennessee.
Love the red kawai. Why don't the offer it to public?
I was expecting some mention of the Kawai NV5 in the digital/hybrid section. I've heard that thing is near indistinguishable to the feel and sound of a real upright piano; even more so than the CA99.
The NV5 does have the actual action; it is an upright action. The CA99 mimics (quite well) the grand piano action. If you prefer an upright action (I don’t) then the NV5. If you prefer a grand piano action feel, then the CA99. The NOVUS 10 uses the actual Millennium III grand piano action. In my opinion, the sound of the CA is better, but this can be subjective, as with many things.
@@kenpeters9807 I've watched videos of the CA99, NV5 and NV10 and from what I gather, the NV5 sounds the most realistic and of course, feels exactly the same way that an upright feels because of the real action behind it. The NV10 seems to be a disappointment. I've heard lots of people say that the action feels heavy and it sounds like a digital. And the CA99 has an impressive grand imitation action but it's just that. An imitation. And the sound is also very impressive but quite easily distinguishable from a real piano in a blind test, unlike the NV5.
@@fraub1 I'm not sure about NV10, but I second that in terms of NV5 and CA99. I compare these side by side, and even despite quite a price difference, I opted for NV5 for the feel of real acoustic action in it. You really feel that the hummer in it is swinging when you press the key. I don't think you can mimic that physics...
Im staying in south east asia with high humidity all year long. And surprisingly I was told by the local Kawai piano seller that kawai grand pianos eg, the GL series don't need heater. Is this true? As all the while we have been using heater for pianos. Please advise.
Are you in Indonesia? The GL 10, and GL 20 are made there🎹🎶
Which are the numbers of Kawai sold? I mean, how many GL-10 or GL-30?
I have a low end Kawai 505F 42" because I was poor but had to have a good piano. Day ONE I have it not just tuned but professionally voiced. 25+ years later, it looks and plays like I just bought it new. Extremely impressed how this instrument aged, and yes I always had it in a good home. It's no long stringed grand sounding instrument but the mid upper register is seriously impressive for that small a piano. I was thinking of getting an Essex baby 173, but I'm scared to not buy Kawai. I don't know what to do...
C. Davis, I am prejudiced. I love the Kawai’s. I JUST ORDERED A KAWAI gl-30. Why not a GL 20, which is a great instrument that you can get for under $20K, depending on dealer, maybe a lot less. I had ordered the GL20, but really wanted a GL30. My wife went to the store and heard the GL30 and her words were , “Magnificent. It sounded magnificent. We have a CA98, which we are not getting rid of. Our GL30 is on back order.
@@kenpeters9807 I just played a GL20 and I'm going to say great move to the 30, I found the 20 lacking a little and was surprised. I am demoing a KG-C3 this weekend, 6', 1974 model in pristine condition. Hoping it blows me away because I have to have that 'sound'. I also played a GX1 recently and I'm telling you, it was heaven man.
C Davis: I played the Boston and the GL 20 beat it. The GL30 at about the same price or a bit more, blows it away. The Boston is far superior to the Essex. I had a good price offered to me on the BOSTON. Not a “permitted” price, but a friend is a store manager. Even with that, I turned it down after doing the demos. Get a Kawai. PERIOD. If you can’t afford it up front, they have good financing deals.
@@kenpeters9807 It's kinda funny but I guess typical these days - the Boston is actually made by Kawai - but designed by Steinway. But they way Kawai builds or architects theirs is to me their wheelhouse. Steinway is having them make a piano in a way they don't normally build their piano's. It's all so confusing. Glad you have honed in on what you like, it's hard to find this and can't be explained, must be played.
C Davis What is hard to find? Kawai manufactures the Boston and formerly some of Baldwins better pianos. Kawai will not sell or put in its actions into anyone else’s piano brand. Look at Boston’s promos. They brag about a lot. What they dont say is that the various improvements are not necessarily in the SS nor that Kawai makes them. When I was shopping for a grand, a store manager Ive known. Sold me my CA98 but recently offered an exclusive SS store - worked with me. I had a nice deal on a Boston. I turned it down. He asked, “is it because of the action?” I said that was one of the two main reasons. He replied: “I can’t fight that.”
What are your opiniins for CA 27 series?
What are your thoughts on Kawai KS1?
"I'm undecided between the Kawai CN201, which is 20% more expensive, and the Yamaha YDP-165 models. Which one would you recommend?"
how do you play the into notes?
I BOUGHT A KAWAI CA79 AND IT HAS LOVELY SOUND BUT ORIGINALLY I WANTED A CN29 BECAUSE THE MUSIC SHELF COMES FORWARD. I HAVE POOR EYE SIGHT AND DONT WEAR GLASSES AND NOW THAT IM THINKING ABOUT PLAYING OTHER AUTHORS MUSIC A LITTLE I NEED IT VERY CLOSE TO MY EYES.
I LOVEEEEEE THE RED PIANO. MY PIANO IS A SHINY BLACK ONE WHICH IS NICE BUT RED IS EVEN BETTER, ITS BEAUTIFUL.
IM NOT SURE HOW TO BRING PIANO SHEET MUSIC FORWARDS SO I CAN READ IT EASIER THOUGH.
Get glasses
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Kawai (and others) uses V-pro vs wet sand casting for their entry level piano plates. I read that v-pro is a cheaper / quicker way to make plates and that this tends to produce a brighter sound vs wet sand cast plates. Not sure if this noticeable or a big deal, but other Chinese made brands that compete at similar price points as the entry level Kawai GL grands (e.g. Hailun and Rittmueler) make that a big deal in their marketing. Interested in your thoughts on that.
V Pro: The Kawai GX 7, a top rated piano uses V pro. …just sayin’
Not in tennessee for a long long time … if ever.
I think it's nonsense that V-pro produces a brighter sound. It's a quicker way to make plates for sure. But in terms of volume, it made sense and why it was created.
To clarify, "volume" means number of plates made, not how loud it makes a piano.
The lower end GLs are made in Indonesia not China🎹🎶
Having watched the "10 Things to Know before you buy a ... " videos about Kawai and Steinway I have the strong impression that you believe the Sherigu Kawai series is much better than Steinway's offerings.
Do you think that a Kawai from the 70s would be built better than a Baldwin L of the early 90s?
Kawai KG 5, specifically.
Yamaha made piano, wow this sounds good.
And then they made a motor to produce the sound and it cycled
Very informative but the young guys mic audio sounds like an old walkie talkie
Ok...great info....thanks.... one thing....the subtitles.... kawaii, kuauai, kawai kawhi...??? Too much sake?
LOL! UA-cam subtitles. We didn’t upload those. That’s funny.
@@apianogallery I think youtube has more than once too much saké....😉😄
Working in schools and institutions, I like the Kawai 506N. That said, the 5 Boston pianos, although the action is nice to play, all suffer from hammer butt flanges failing prematurely, the inferior flake board knee board, attractive yet super thin and fragile ebony veneer. Parts available from Steinway. Why should Kawai make a better piano for Steinway than for themselves? the didn't. The are so under powered, they need hammer hardening from day one. Both Kawai and Steinway should be ashamed of the Boston and Essex (Samick) verticals.
Hmmmm if it’s so much better than wood why doesn’t the very very best pianos use it
Interesting topic, but a bit biased to Kawai?. You mention the dominance of Kawai during the 80's, as if the C-series by Yamaha didn't exist. It was the top dog in the golden era of LA recording studios. The CFX is also consistently picked more often than the Shigeru Kawai at top competitions. The Yamaha is more often chosen in japanese competitions as well. Not bashing Kawai here by any means, but suggesting they hold a more esteemed place in the market than Yamaha is not true.
I have noticed this too. And Yamaha's action is very much the equal of anyone's in the industry. Just because you do carbon fiber actions doesn't mean that the traditional wood actions aren't great as well. I talk up Kawai but some Kawai fans talk down Yamaha and there's no need to do it. Both are great but Yamaha is the bigger and more popular brand.
Very nice 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️
1) Don' t rent.
A clear bias towards Kawai… which is fine by this Kawai user.
Family businesses suck. Because no matter how inept members of the family are they are never fired they are in fact promoted which hurts the business so I never do business with family businesses
I imagine they would not fire family member, they would kill him if he did not produce top notch piano, or rather he would kill himself as they do in Japan :D
Zura, so true! A family business cannot afford losers
I don't usually comment on these things, but... Those who don't know much about Japan and shills for the Japanese tirelessly spout nonsense about Japan whenever and wherever they can. I wasted 30 minutes on this video hoping to glean useful information on Kawai pianos...and was entirely disappointed. I lived for many years in different parts of Japan and heard, with my own ears, how the Japanese were still so far away from western music and were, in a sense, musically clumsy. They are improving, but I believe this is one reason that Japanese pianos tend to be so lacking in subtlety. (I've played Yamaha grands all over the archipelago). I had hoped that somewhere in the space of 30 minutes, this element--you know, the musicality of the pianos--would be entertained. Instead, I heard about how incredibly honorable the Kawai family is--after all, the Japanese are honorable, right?
Also, please note that Japanese is a phonetic language and that its sounds all come from kanji which have specific meanings. Unlike English, if you mispronounce a word, you change its meaning. Hence, it is Shigeru and not shiguru (think she-gay-ru as opposed to she-goo-ru, the 'Y' in the 2nd syllable is meant to guide pronunciation and not to elongate as that will make your name rendering sound really strange.) If you are going to shill for them, at least learn how to do it right. This and hearing 'saki' for 'sake' are the 1 millisecond tests for posers.
I think there is so much to talk about on the subject of Kawai pianos that I cannot understand the treatment given them here.
I've watched for hours various videos and rarely heard anyone to bash Japanese pianos. I would agree this video is offering a one-sided opinion only. I wish you can share a video that goes into the details of what you have mentioned.
Though I'm mostly focused on uprights and my choice here is either Petrof (expensive!) or Yamaha/Kawai. I have owned two Yamaha U1 & U2 pianos which were nice but bright. Kawai uprights are mellow sounding and best action, at a reasonable price.
Do we really need to know history of the Yamaha and Kawai if we just wan to buy a Kawai piano? Don't you think you guys should focus the feature and quality of the Kawai itself? You're just wasting my time.