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Hi! Please note the Portuguese in the Rosetta Stone is not the European one and that will create some difficulties here in Portugal specially in the grammar and integration in the rural communities. It's like living in England and I decided to learn English with full American accent. Cheers ;)
@@assuncaomeireles198 Verdade. Nada, mas nada contra os diferentes sotaques, bem pelo contrário isso apenas enriquece o idioma, mas por uma questão de coerência e real integração no espaço/terra onde vivemos é sempre bom ter respeito pelos costumes e tradições dos nativos
Here’s my 2 cents…ask your friend Kev if you can do a probationary stretch of time on his land. You could stay for several months and actually live in the situation before fully committing. Get to know the seasons, and day to day living routine. Also you and Kev could get to know each other better and see if a long term situation is what all of you really want. I wouldn’t jump into buying until you are absolutely certain that it’s a long term solution. If it isn’t, can you afford to lose all of the money you put into it? There are no guarantees that you could sell it to make money back. Breathe and take your time. You’re young and capable of so much potential. ❤
Or stay in your campervan with Kevin for a while if he'll have you and help him with his project.. Just being there and getting a feel for the area and the work that would be involved and see after that time if you really do feel it's the place and the life for you.
Just my opinion but I think it's extremely smart that you're doing your due diligence and thinking of all the pros and cons. If there's no rush to decide, there's no harm in taking the time you need before you commit. If there was ever a time to pause, prepare, and weigh all the options properly, this is it. Best of luck and can't wait to see how this plays out for you!
I worked at a Yoga Retreat place in Mexico. Half the month is was yoga groups come down from the States, and the other half it was run as an B&B. You constantly have guests and they are on vacation and YOU are there link to the local places and your life EVEN ON YOUR DAY OFF... is taken up with guest wanting to talk to you, and YOU NEEDING TO be gracious and welcoming of ALL THEIR QUESTIONS. It just felt like I could never really get away and never really have a full day off.
In my early twenties I thought I wanted to be a photographer. After talking to our wedding photographer we decided not to do it. Why? He gave me the best life advice ever. Be very careful of turning a hobby you love into a business. All of a sudden everything has to be scheduled, customers need to be happy whether you want to do it or not, you may not have the freedom to do what you want, when you want and you may ruin a beautiful hobby. And be miserable. In the end I found a different business idea and became a independent financial planner for25 years and kept my beautiful hobby.
Dont tear down the stone building, if there is anyway to include it into the build, it adds so much character! 😊 I suggest you rent for 1 year before you purchase to see if you even like all the seasons.
I was thinking exactly the same thing! Here they have a beautiful building out of stone and lime and they only think of tearing it down, only to build a concrete thing, I guess! Very disrespectful of Portugal!
While I have no doubt that you will succeed in whatever you choose, do not underestimate how much time/energy will need to go into raising your tiny human. He’s easy as pie now. Just wait until he starts moving - it will be a whole different story. Good luck!
I would suggest buying a property in a village that is already livable. Then spend the year traveling in Portugal with your home base as stability. After 3 - 6 months you should know if you want more. Plus Noah will be walking next year and that will help you see clearly what the next step could be.
It's a lovely dream, but right now that kiddo is portable. Old mom here, 3 grown kids, and I'll tell you that my hardest parenting years were ages 2, 3, 4. Kids can talk, walk, and be illogical screaming snot machines, the degree of which you cannot predict when they are still babies. (My docile oldest baby turned into a hurricane from age 2 to 17. I had to give up my small business with my youngest for a couple years and he was far more passive.) By all means, make plans, but triple the work AND money with constant moment to moment, no more napping, kid stuff. Slow on down. You have time.
You really have the right ideas. I owned a horse ranch for 17 years (10.5 acres backed up to National Forest on 2 sides) in the mountains of New Mexico and trained horses and people from there; built it from scratch. It ended up being much more expensive than we thought it would be, and the maintenance was constant. We were about 30 minutes from a grocery store and 45 minutes from a hospital, but you could not beat the views - mesas, mountains, red rock, etc. I loved it, my wife got tired of it after around 10 years (we have 1 daughter who grew up there) and when the markets crashed and business dried up, we had to return to teaching (both have PhD's and are professors.) We sold the property for not much profit, and then got divorced mainly because of the stress of that property. For me, it was a great experience, but now my 2nd wife and I want a condo overlooking the beach and mountains in Spain or Portugal that's close to facilities, etc. - a place we can leave whenever we want to and just rent out. Simple. I would not say the ranch wasn't worth it, but living rural is not as easy and ideal as many think. Would I do it all over again? Yes (my ex would say no,) but simpler, with less property to maintain, and closer to civilization. I enjoy your videos.
Great! When we travelled around Europe (1978-81 and we built our campervan with the help of friends, on the roadside), we had no idea where we were going, except visiting 3 families in France, and then heading south. We looked at the map, chose an interesting name, and headed there, then looked to see if work was available. We worked on farms, building sites, factories, restaurants and oil refineries. I had been an accountant up until then. Life is to be lived. I'm now teaching English in Bulgaria.
As usual, a charming video. Noah looks healthy and happy. Your thoughts about moving to Portugal are impressive. What about simply spending more time there for a period of time? If you were to rent or lease a property in the area you like and which would be similar to what you envision for yourselves you'd have a much better idea of what's involved. As someone else has mentioned here, you really have no deadline or other requirement. That's why I'd say plan to go to Portugal again and soon, and arrange for a long term rental or lease on a property where you can live and, perhaps, farm. You'd then have some experience on which to base a decision. I am sure that things will work out to your satisfaction, but you must do the work, too! Please keep the great videos coming!
When worked seasons in the alpes, a Bulgarian beach resort and a Greek Island I loved them all for a month or two but then by the end of the season I was actively desperate to leave the places even though they were stunning and amazing for a long break
For me I couldn't imagine a worst use of my time and money as I know I would hate it by half way through the project and just sell it and probably for a big financial loss. Parenting with work and keeping a house clean is hard enough without a huge project like that. Each to their own though
@@TravelBeans Keep dreaming losers. Your boyfriend or husband whatever he is, is a weak sniveling nincompoop. He complains about everything and doesn't know how to do manly work.
I don`t know about this land but, an alert. Usually you can`t build on this type of land or the taxes are very high. I hope you have enough information. If you are interested go to the region city hall and be sure of what you can expect of the free land.
Another consideration is if you purchase a 2+ acre property, what will happen if someone else purchases adjacent land and builds something that doesn't match your own philosophies/plans/etc.
Crazy beans. 🤪 Maybe do a bit of house sitting on small farm, you will definately get the experience. What you need to remember is whatever you choose does not have to be forever, your young enough to choose many paths to follow. Go with your heart as your head will confuse you😂 Noah is super cute.💚
Haha I like that “go with your heart as your head will confuse you” 😅🙏 Think the idea of house sitting to get an understanding of the lifestyle would be really beneficial
I moved to our dream holiday destination 3 years ago, we came here on holidays, fell in love and made the plunge. EVERY DAY I think ‘god I love living here’. I’ve never once taken it for granted and it doesn’t make it any less special.
If you wanted to instead of building on the land clean it up in a nice way live in your Van and have it as a go home place to park it and rest. You can still use the Van as your house on your land without building a house. Farm the land etc
I suggest a small house in a tiny village, close to bigger town/city, little garden, close to a few river beaches. Live there part of the year and when you travel you holiday let it.
I don’t think you’re mad I think you’d embrace the challenge and create something really special and I’m 100% here for it!! I love what the Newbys are creating and I think you guys would create something equally special. I’m team do it!!
I love the land that you like the most! However, I urge you to NOT knock down the rock building should you buy that property! Amazing history that can be added on to easily! Good luck on your search and decision! ❤️🙏
Realistically, I think it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to do well with both traveling in England/Europe and the US/North America AND buying land, building a house, transforming the property and having a retreat or other business venture in addition to your top priority of your relationship with each other and Noah (and potentially more children). I think the idea of collaborating with your friend on his property is the best idea thus far, as it would allow you to have your creative outlet and do the travelling you enjoy so much.
Whatever you decide it will place you in Portugal long term. Do you want to stay put doing maintenance on your camping site? If you have to employ someone, can you afford it? OR Do you want to keep travelling with a beautiful home to come back to? OR create a gorgeous garden to park up in , in your campervan and keep on moving when you want to. When Noah needs to start kindergarten or school you might need to settle in one place so enjoy moving around til then.
I couldn't think of two people more qualified to run their own place, with all your years of travelling what better way to use all that experience... Go for it! Life is not about planning everything and if you think about things too much you would nearly talk yourself out of doing it.......
I would rather buy property than rent, but renting something a while makes a lot of sense. It is a way to try something without all the expense of buying and fixing up.
If you never take a leap and go through the hard work and heartache….you never grow and learn. I’m now 57 and am soooo glad that I took all the risks in my life. I have grown into knowledge and love where I am today. So I say jump and take a leap of faith…never play it safe…you only have one go around at this life. Good luck Beans!
As a Coimbra citizen I’d suggest you to move to those lands close to Mondego as it is a beautiful place and is close to big nice cities such as Coimbra and Figueira da Foz
😂 You sounded like us every time we get an idea in our heads! Rent an apartment in Paris, buy land in Italy, buy a vacation home in…. How many hours have we talked about all these grand ideas and not actually done them?
Hi! Happy to know you're trying to learn Portuguese, however the programme you are using is Brasilian Portuguese, which is diferent in some words, sentencing construction and accent.
I think "travelJ" further down in the comments has spoken a lot of sense. Having a young child being so rural is possibly not the best idea. A number of people have suggested buying a small house in a village, I think Iit will be less risky and it will make it a lot easier if you hanker after travelling as there is always the possibility that you will tire of staying in one place all the time. Bear in mind living so far from civilisation means you will always have far to travel in case of an emergency. Also do not purchase property thinking you "can always sell it if you don't enjoy rural living" as you may struggle to sell it. The Portugeze economy is not great. How would you feel being stuck on a rural property and one of you has to go into a city or to England to find work. I totally agree with a number of the comments, I do think you should rent for at least 6 months in that way you won't lose a substantial amount of money. Your other friends who you have stayed with in Portugal could tell you the truth about rural living and having children. Good luck write down the pros and cons go over them again, and again and again. I think you are looking at this romantically and not taking into account the reality. Good luck
Take your time when making a decision. There are many moving pieces in your lives right now. When you reconcile those pieces . You make the decision . We continue to support this journey. Can't wait to see what's next. Sending you much love❤ from Richmond, Va. The love Beans ❤ Harriet, Jim and Yuki
Kevin’s excitement is infectious. I hope you find the exact location to build your new home and make business possibilities-yay on you!! Great video and the landscapes are beautiful! You never know what’s ahead but go for it!
You two are in the same place as I am. I am headed to Portugal in Dec to March to find a small farm. Yes you are right it is a full time job and expensive you are right. I love the way your mind works. I am exploring the same issues. I started my own UA-cam Channel to film my property search starting in Dec. You know we lost the NHR tax discount by not applying for our VISA? I love that voice inside your head, It's called CREATIVITY and it's a LIFETIME experience. And a HUGE commitment. And yes not to buy too much property...so it can be maintained. But when you leave who will run or oversea it???? I have had short term rentals, apartments and nightly lodging for over 25 years here in US. I am trying to keep it simple. Having to maintain it all is ENORMOUS...You guys are so smart to explore all of your options...Proud of you. Keep inspiring. I will be there in 6 weeks to do exactly what you are doing along the same mindset that you are doing...Hugs and Cheers. By the way I do follow the Newbys and so many others. Watching, learning and trying to be realistic about the reality of this move...Love you guys. Keep traveling. Gina in Upstate New York USA moving to Portugal
Please check out tax rules. I believe if you buy a holiday home and plan to live on it even if it’s less than 181 days you still become tax responsible. Taxes even on a small amount of money can be up to 40%.
Went out to Portugal 38yrs ago to do exactly what you guys are thinking of. We didnt have a baby ours was 2. Couldnt find what we were looking for so we came back to the U.K. , put an advert in the paper and bought 2.5 acres in North Norfolk. Still living the van life and sharing our space with friends old and new. We are now building our 6th truck a Ford econoline 350, which I believe you are familiar with! Lookin forward to hitting the road again - you never know we might meet up. Happy travels.
Problem with Rosetta Stone is they offer Brazilian Portuguese which you don’t want to learn if you’re moving to Portugal. Unless you’re moving to Braga. Lots of Brazilian immigrants there.
A cautionary tale... My aunt set up a trust to ran a special needs residential centre She built her own house nearby, but got convinced by the trust members to sell up and invest that capital into doing up the old garage on the trust property into her own apartments. She didn't do her due diligence, signed a bad contract, was later kicked out and lost all her money and retired pennyless. Not saying this will happen just saying think everything through, get legal advice and have discussions of what if scenerios.
Do something far smaller. Buy a nice property with little of land and develop it incrementally depending on how you feel and how much time you want to spend with young kids.
Adventure! It's not crazy to grow your own food and bring joy to others. It's a win win. The people will love you and help you figure things out. If you get joy it was the right choice.
What a wonderful opportunity to ease into land ownership and retreat potential while you are still navigating travel with Noah as new parents. Congratulations to you all! ❤ What a lovely generous friend.
I just love that you have the feeling that the next place could always be the one... My husband and i are the exactly the same way. Our advice is though, sometimes the hunt is the most appealing part of the venture. Its one thing to consider all the possibilities and another to live thru them. I too think it would be wise to rent for 6 months or so before commiting to a purchase. At the end of that "honeymoon" phase, see if you still feel like its what you want or if you are ready to move on. There is much property for sale...im afraid if you buy and change your mind it could be hard to sell.
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Hi you three! I really enjoy watching your travel blogs. Ever since you started filming in Portugal and talking about the possibility of living there I am wondering if you ever asked if you would get a residence permit in Portugal as the UK doesn’t belong to the EU anymore. After watching this video one other thing came to mind: Don’t you want to travel anymore? Because if you buy a big piece of land anywhere you have to be able to manage it and wether it is a retreat or a farm or a campsite you won’t be able to just pack up and go away for some time to do some exploring. You two come across as free spirits and not farmers. Just saying… I’ll keep following 😊 Best wishes from Germany
Go with your heart as you head will talk you out of your dreams. The one question I have is how much more travelling do you eant to do over the next couple of years? Working the land is an adventure within it self, just in one place 😊
Love all the ideas you guys have, and they all have promise, but then that's why its so hard to choose! Haha. If it were me I'd go with rent somewhere for maybe 6 months, try living there to see if that's actually what you're into, learn some language etc, then working that out helps you decide if you wana do biz stuff there too. It breaks it down into a smaller challenge and its much lower risk too. What ever you decide though, good luck with it! All the best to you all 😊
Take your time. This is coming from n old lady who has had many businesses. My hubby n I found ourselves so busy we didn’t have time for our children. Not even enough time to go to beach:( . We sold everything and focused on them. Don’t get trapped:). Marie
So excited for you. When i was young(er), I always fancied setting up a hammock camping retreat. Basic facilities, with a little shop to supply the guests. I hope you manage to realise your dream. Best of luck :)
Love your channel! With both of your attitudes there is nothing you can't do.. It sounds like you are on a verge of a dream coming true.. follow your hearts ❤
It's an extremely huge commitment, especially if you are planning on having more children. Really take this into consideration as you will be building, planning, financed etc etc.
I lived in Malta and loved it, but eventually I missed the green spaced in the UK and the ease of travelling - so I sold up and came back to the UK. My big advice is to find/befriend a solicitor or a good law firm you can trust to avoid being caught out by obscure regulations and laws that most local people never have to deal with, especially relating to buying property. The lease costs, that no one talks about, of the land your purchased flat was built on caught out a lot of would be Malta residents.
Thanks for honorable mention. Live that dream! The property looks beautiful and if the licenses are already set, half the frustrations are already dealt with.
I think taking time to try before buying a good idea but let me throw a idea if you do go ahead with a rural retreat/holiday plus living option. There is a huge gap in market for disability accessible holidays and folk who still want to travel and explore.... Just a idea to ponder.
Think you should take the land already with development approval and take the plunge by living there. However, would be a shame to rip down the existing building. Perhaps consider extending on from the building. Wish you luck in your decision.
I love the Mondego and the riverside. But it does have high water at certain times of the year due to heavy rains. Flooding of low-lying lands is just a fact of life. That last place you were standing on might be a bit low to be totally dry when there are floods. I am not saying to not go for it, just be aware when you are planning. Also, the University of Coimbra has a great language for foreigners program.
Watch Mr. And Mrs. Adventure. They moved to Portugal and are renovation an old water mill into their home. They love prodigal. They are also taking language ,Portuguese on line.
Lol...Hellooo Mr. & Mrs. Hatter! I totally get where you're coming from and you're not insane. Or I am. Either way, we just have to ride the wave. I decided to build a van (Arthur Dent), and bought a beautiful piece of land in Florida, on a canal, 10 minutes from the Atlantic. The idea was to landscape, get water, electric, and use that as my home base while I traveled l. I was living in Vermont at the time and had a question for the zoning administrator, so called FL and found out I MUST build a 1200 Sq ft house on my property plus a 200 Sq ft garage! Coming from VT, where you can camp on your land, it didn't occur to me I'd ever be required to build a house, which I don't want. So, I sold the beautiful useless (to me) land and the search for what I want continues. The struggle is real. At least I have a great van. But, the idea of having the most tricked out campsite for your van on your own property is a great one! It's those niggly bylaws that can bite your a$$, so make sure you ask every question you can think of (including ones you can't think of, lol) before buying anything. Let me serve as the cautionary tale. 😂
Awesome ideas Beans, glad you are over thinking everything from jumping in to bolting other way. Just a suggestion for you both, how about being a house sitter short term especially during wet season, where you can park your van and travel 6 to 12 months there. Hard decisions all round no matter what you decide. Wish you luck in finding your dream piece of paradise. 🐛 🐍 🦋 🐠
I love your excitement, but just thought …. Remember how much you love to travel, do you want to be tied down. Whichever, I wish you the best of luck!!😊
you are young. go for it. you two have plenty of living experience in vans etc... it wont be easy but you will have plenty if help with on line and feedback. If you try and fail... oh well. on to the next adventure older and wiser! good luck!
As long as you don't rush into it and do the proper research I think you'll make the right decision. As you mentioned with Van Life you had experience. An extended stay at a similar place would be great.
It's a big commitment, but also very profitable at the same time. A man can't go wrong buying land. Time share is another way to go, rent like 400 sq foot for X amount a month. What ever you do, good 🤞 luck. Thanks 🙏 for sharing.
You have to decide what you want to do so have a fixed plan then buy land to suit. If you buy land then try and try and fit a plan to it it very likely will fall short of what is needed
Passive income is the way to go….. set up a site that houses campervans and tents, all having individual little picnic tables surrounded by trees. You would just need a tiny home for yourselves, power connections and an ablution block for showers and toilets. Close down 2 months of the year whilst you go off travelling 👍
Go for it, diversify, nothing ventured, nothing gained. You’re young and still have the energy. If all else fails you can sell, and still make money. Make your money work for you, also smart if you can invest with a trustworthy friend, associate(s). Perhaps invest in an existing business or seek out investors to build your business. Great video, always nice to have options. Follow your heart and passions, and everything else will fall into place.
Worse case scenario? You have a year or more of people following your videos to see how you get along. The good, the bad, the crazy, the funny, all of it. If 2-5 years down the road you realize it was fun and crazy but not what you ultimately wanted, cut your losses and move on. You will have met a lot of great people, and learned a lot of new skills. Trying, even if you fail is half the fun. In the end, win lose or draw you will have experiences and memories that no one can take away.
Start with how the heck are you planning on earning money in rural Portugal? Then, what kind of medical and other services do you need? What do you need to learn to do this and how hard are you REALLY willing to work? Can you farm sit or house sit? What is the worst weather you are willing to tolerate and for how long? Better to waste your money for a rental and be certain rather than waste your money on land you might never be able to sell. Advice from Alaska - rent for a year and keep enough cash reserve to get away or out of it if you need to. Lovely to milk goats and collect eggs when it's romantic, but when you're doing it because there's no other way to get milk and protein, it's a whole other tale.
you are not stupid at all. you are just not sure if you want it. in that case - hold on with purchasing the land. the second thoughts you have about buying the land in the first place show that you are not ready to make this big move. if you really wanted you would keep searching for the right land and get it rather than questioning if you really want it in the first place...
If these Portugal abandoned farms are as cheap as a couple of years rent in the UK, then I don't think you can go wrong! Like your motorhome in the US it can be your second holiday home if you do not end up moving there permanently. It can pay for itself if you air b&b it while you are on your travels and can give you so much adventure and freedom on your own land while you are there. Especially if you can pick fresh fruit off your own trees and dive in to your own stretch of the river for a swim!
I am so thrilled to have stumbled across your channel today. Up to now I've been following Those Happy Days, the ups and downs of van lifers Liam and Janine Day. I've travelled around the world with this lovely pair but right now they seem to have hit a brick wall and have stopped travelling. So you guys are a great discovery and I love that you are doing it all with a baby (and a very cute one too). I just subscribed and am looking forward to the next chapter.
You would be great hosts for a camper park, van park or very small holiday adventure spot. Don't make it a home, but a good business adventure. Your experience travelling in a van/camper has to have given you ideas. Don't shy away from your ambitions and goals. Noah's well being would be wise to consider first. Good Luck.
You guys need to work out if you're going to keep travelling or not. Because I have a normal suburban house and coming back to it after a period away itself a nightmare. You guys know people there, but in general, building or renovating on rural areas is mot fast, and added costs for accessing a distant and difficult plot. In fact you might find it hard to find a builder prepared to take on a complex rural site.
Being a bit mad is underrated. Good video guys, excited to see where the journey goes. And nice to see Claire enjoying life at the retreat, worked with her for a very brief time.
I love the look of the last place. No place will be perfect until you make it work for you. Thinking of all the possibilities from the wildly impractical, to the eminently practical, from best and worst case scenarios is the only way I would go into this. Remember, you two +1 always seem to enjoy the journey.
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Hi! Please note the Portuguese in the Rosetta Stone is not the European one and that will create some difficulties here in Portugal specially in the grammar and integration in the rural communities. It's like living in England and I decided to learn English with full American accent. Cheers ;)
Is that you above?
Os estrangeiros que queiram aprender português tem de ser português de Portugal e nao português do Brasil que é muito diferente
@@assuncaomeireles198 Verdade. Nada, mas nada contra os diferentes sotaques, bem pelo contrário isso apenas enriquece o idioma, mas por uma questão de coerência e real integração no espaço/terra onde vivemos é sempre bom ter respeito pelos costumes e tradições dos nativos
Way harder than you think.
Here’s my 2 cents…ask your friend Kev if you can do a probationary stretch of time on his land. You could stay for several months and actually live in the situation before fully committing. Get to know the seasons, and day to day living routine. Also you and Kev could get to know each other better and see if a long term situation is what all of you really want. I wouldn’t jump into buying until you are absolutely certain that it’s a long term solution. If it isn’t, can you afford to lose all of the money you put into it? There are no guarantees that you could sell it to make money back. Breathe and take your time. You’re young and capable of so much potential. ❤
Sounds like leased land to me. You won't own it.
Sounds risky@@kookietherapy9398
Or stay in your campervan
with Kevin for a while if he'll have you and help him with his project..
Just being there and getting a feel for the area and the work that would be involved and see after that time if you really do feel it's the place and the life for you.
@@shooster5884 Great idea !!!
That's a good idea: have Kevin stay in your campervan with you and the baby 😂@@shooster5884
Never spend money upgrading someone else's property. When/if things go sour you walk out with nothing.
First thought! You only can lose, one way or the other
It's all good until it goes wrong. Don't !!!
@@isbjrn358 not always.. could also be a win win
Just my opinion but I think it's extremely smart that you're doing your due diligence and thinking of all the pros and cons. If there's no rush to decide, there's no harm in taking the time you need before you commit. If there was ever a time to pause, prepare, and weigh all the options properly, this is it. Best of luck and can't wait to see how this plays out for you!
I think prices will drop worldwide in 2025. Wait !!!
hello @danielrwomack
@@kookietherapy9398 Why 2025? Just curious.
I worked at a Yoga Retreat place in Mexico. Half the month is was yoga groups come down from the States, and the other half it was run as an B&B. You constantly have guests and they are on vacation and YOU are there link to the local places and your life EVEN ON YOUR DAY OFF... is taken up with guest wanting to talk to you, and YOU NEEDING TO be gracious and welcoming of ALL THEIR QUESTIONS. It just felt like I could never really get away and never really have a full day off.
In my early twenties I thought I wanted to be a photographer. After talking to our wedding photographer we decided not to do it. Why? He gave me the best life advice ever. Be very careful of turning a hobby you love into a business. All of a sudden everything has to be scheduled, customers need to be happy whether you want to do it or not, you may not have the freedom to do what you want, when you want and you may ruin a beautiful hobby. And be miserable. In the end I found a different business idea and became a independent financial planner for25 years and kept my beautiful hobby.
That's a good point and ideal to keep weeks free that no one can book for down time ❤
@@anewlifeinthevan exactly. It's a job. We need some time away from our job. For example 3 w per week it can close for everybody to recharge.
Dont tear down the stone building, if there is anyway to include it into the build, it adds so much character! 😊
I suggest you rent for 1 year before you purchase to see if you even like all the seasons.
I was thinking exactly the same thing! Here they have a beautiful building out of stone and lime and they only think of tearing it down, only to build a concrete thing, I guess! Very disrespectful of Portugal!
While I have no doubt that you will succeed in whatever you choose, do not underestimate how much time/energy will need to go into raising your tiny human. He’s easy as pie now. Just wait until he starts moving - it will be a whole different story. Good luck!
I would suggest buying a property in a village that is already livable. Then spend the year traveling in Portugal with your home base as stability. After 3 - 6 months you should know if you want more. Plus Noah will be walking next year and that will help you see clearly what the next step could be.
Great Advice!
It's a lovely dream, but right now that kiddo is portable. Old mom here, 3 grown kids, and I'll tell you that my hardest parenting years were ages 2, 3, 4. Kids can talk, walk, and be illogical screaming snot machines, the degree of which you cannot predict when they are still babies. (My docile oldest baby turned into a hurricane from age 2 to 17. I had to give up my small business with my youngest for a couple years and he was far more passive.)
By all means, make plans, but triple the work AND money with constant moment to moment, no more napping, kid stuff. Slow on down. You have time.
You really have the right ideas. I owned a horse ranch for 17 years (10.5 acres backed up to National Forest on 2 sides) in the mountains of New Mexico and trained horses and people from there; built it from scratch. It ended up being much more expensive than we thought it would be, and the maintenance was constant. We were about 30 minutes from a grocery store and 45 minutes from a hospital, but you could not beat the views - mesas, mountains, red rock, etc. I loved it, my wife got tired of it after around 10 years (we have 1 daughter who grew up there) and when the markets crashed and business dried up, we had to return to teaching (both have PhD's and are professors.) We sold the property for not much profit, and then got divorced mainly because of the stress of that property. For me, it was a great experience, but now my 2nd wife and I want a condo overlooking the beach and mountains in Spain or Portugal that's close to facilities, etc. - a place we can leave whenever we want to and just rent out. Simple. I would not say the ranch wasn't worth it, but living rural is not as easy and ideal as many think. Would I do it all over again? Yes (my ex would say no,) but simpler, with less property to maintain, and closer to civilization. I enjoy your videos.
Slow down and embrace the new family and all the ups and downs that come with it. Keep it simple beans!
Great! When we travelled around Europe (1978-81 and we built our campervan with the help of friends, on the roadside), we had no idea where we were going, except visiting 3 families in France, and then heading south. We looked at the map, chose an interesting name, and headed there, then looked to see if work was available. We worked on farms, building sites, factories, restaurants and oil refineries. I had been an accountant up until then. Life is to be lived. I'm now teaching English in Bulgaria.
Beautiful story ❤
As usual, a charming video. Noah looks healthy and happy. Your thoughts about moving to Portugal are impressive. What about simply spending more time there for a period of time? If you were to rent or lease a property in the area you like and which would be similar to what you envision for yourselves you'd have a much better idea of what's involved. As someone else has mentioned here, you really have no deadline or other requirement. That's why I'd say plan to go to Portugal again and soon, and arrange for a long term rental or lease on a property where you can live and, perhaps, farm. You'd then have some experience on which to base a decision. I am sure that things will work out to your satisfaction, but you must do the work, too! Please keep the great videos coming!
When worked seasons in the alpes, a Bulgarian beach resort and a Greek Island I loved them all for a month or two but then by the end of the season I was actively desperate to leave the places even though they were stunning and amazing for a long break
This is exactly what I was talking about! Definitely something worth thinking about .. 🤔
For me I couldn't imagine a worst use of my time and money as I know I would hate it by half way through the project and just sell it and probably for a big financial loss. Parenting with work and keeping a house clean is hard enough without a huge project like that. Each to their own though
@@TravelBeans Keep dreaming losers. Your boyfriend or husband whatever he is, is a weak sniveling nincompoop. He complains about everything and doesn't know how to do manly work.
I don`t know about this land but, an alert. Usually you can`t build on this type of land or the taxes are very high. I hope you have enough information. If you are interested go to the region city hall and be sure of what you can expect of the free land.
Another consideration is if you purchase a 2+ acre property, what will happen if someone else purchases adjacent land and builds something that doesn't match your own philosophies/plans/etc.
Crazy beans. 🤪
Maybe do a bit of house sitting on small farm, you will definately get the experience. What you need to remember is whatever you choose does not have to be forever, your young enough to choose many paths to follow. Go with your heart as your head will confuse you😂 Noah is super cute.💚
Haha I like that “go with your heart as your head will confuse you” 😅🙏 Think the idea of house sitting to get an understanding of the lifestyle would be really beneficial
I moved to our dream holiday destination 3 years ago, we came here on holidays, fell in love and made the plunge.
EVERY DAY I think ‘god I love living here’. I’ve never once taken it for granted and it doesn’t make it any less special.
If you wanted to instead of building on the land clean it up in a nice way live in your Van and have it as a go home place to park it and rest. You can still use the Van as your house on your land without building a house. Farm the land etc
I suggest a small house in a tiny village, close to bigger town/city, little garden, close to a few river beaches. Live there part of the year and when you travel you holiday let it.
I don’t think you’re mad I think you’d embrace the challenge and create something really special and I’m 100% here for it!! I love what the Newbys are creating and I think you guys would create something equally special. I’m team do it!!
I love the land that you like the most! However, I urge you to NOT knock down the rock building should you buy that property! Amazing history that can be added on to easily! Good luck on your search and decision! ❤️🙏
I vote for you to stay flexible and mobile. Running a resort sounds like issues 24/7, IMHO
Sometimes, you just need to step over your fears, take a chance, have faith in yourselves and....go for it.💜
Realistically, I think it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to do well with both traveling in England/Europe and the US/North America AND buying land, building a house, transforming the property and having a retreat or other business venture in addition to your top priority of your relationship with each other and Noah (and potentially more children). I think the idea of collaborating with your friend on his property is the best idea thus far, as it would allow you to have your creative outlet and do the travelling you enjoy so much.
Whatever you decide it will place you in Portugal long term. Do you want to stay put doing maintenance on your camping site? If you have to employ someone, can
you afford it? OR
Do you want to keep travelling with a beautiful home to come back to? OR create a gorgeous garden to park up in , in your campervan and keep on moving when you want to. When Noah needs to start kindergarten or school you might need to settle in one place so enjoy moving around til then.
I couldn't think of two people more qualified to run their own place, with all your years of travelling what better way to use all that experience... Go for it! Life is not about planning everything and if you think about things too much you would nearly talk yourself out of doing it.......
I would rather buy property than rent, but renting something a while makes a lot of sense. It is a way to try something without all the expense of buying and fixing up.
If you never take a leap and go through the hard work and heartache….you never grow and learn. I’m now 57 and am soooo glad that I took all the risks in my life. I have grown into knowledge and love where I am today. So I say jump and take a leap of faith…never play it safe…you only have one go around at this life. Good luck Beans!
As a Coimbra citizen I’d suggest you to move to those lands close to Mondego as it is a beautiful place and is close to big nice cities such as Coimbra and Figueira da Foz
😂 You sounded like us every time we get an idea in our heads! Rent an apartment in Paris, buy land in Italy, buy a vacation home in…. How many hours have we talked about all these grand ideas and not actually done them?
They fact that your questioning is so refreshing. So many people only saw the decision.
Hi! Happy to know you're trying to learn Portuguese, however the programme you are using is Brasilian Portuguese, which is diferent in some words, sentencing construction and accent.
I think "travelJ" further down in the comments has spoken a lot of sense. Having a young child being so rural is possibly not the best idea. A number of people have suggested buying a small house in a village, I think Iit will be less risky and it will make it a lot easier if you hanker after travelling as there is always the possibility that you will tire of staying in one place all the time. Bear in mind living so far from civilisation means you will always have far to travel in case of an emergency. Also do not purchase property thinking you "can always sell it if you don't enjoy rural living" as you may struggle to sell it. The Portugeze economy is not great. How would you feel being stuck on a rural property and one of you has to go into a city or to England to find work. I totally agree with a number of the comments, I do think you should rent for at least 6 months in that way you won't lose a substantial amount of money. Your other friends who you have stayed with in Portugal could tell you the truth about rural living and having children. Good luck write down the pros and cons go over them again, and again and again. I think you are looking at this romantically and not taking into account the reality. Good luck
Take your time when making a decision. There are many moving pieces in your lives right now. When you reconcile those pieces . You make the decision . We continue to support this journey.
Can't wait to see what's next. Sending you much love❤ from Richmond, Va. The love Beans ❤ Harriet, Jim and Yuki
Kevin’s excitement is infectious. I hope you find the exact location to build your new home and make business possibilities-yay on you!! Great video and the landscapes are beautiful! You never know what’s ahead but go for it!
You two are in the same place as I am. I am headed to Portugal in Dec to March to find a small farm. Yes you are right it is a full time job and expensive you are right.
I love the way your mind works. I am exploring the same issues. I started my own UA-cam Channel to film my property search starting in Dec. You know we lost the NHR tax discount by not applying for our VISA?
I love that voice inside your head, It's called CREATIVITY and it's a LIFETIME experience. And a HUGE commitment. And yes not to buy too much property...so it can be maintained. But when you leave who will run or oversea it???? I have had short term rentals, apartments and nightly lodging for over 25 years here in US. I am trying to keep it simple. Having to maintain it all is ENORMOUS...You guys are so smart to explore all of your options...Proud of you. Keep inspiring. I will be there in 6 weeks to do exactly what you are doing along the same mindset that you are doing...Hugs and Cheers. By the way I do follow the Newbys and so many others. Watching, learning and trying to be realistic about the reality of this move...Love you guys. Keep traveling. Gina in Upstate New York USA moving to Portugal
Please check out tax rules. I believe if you buy a holiday home and plan to live on it even if it’s less than 181 days you still become tax responsible. Taxes even on a small amount of money can be up to 40%.
Went out to Portugal 38yrs ago to do exactly what you guys are thinking of. We didnt have a baby ours was 2. Couldnt find what we were looking for so we came back to the U.K. , put an advert in the paper and bought 2.5 acres in North Norfolk. Still living the van life and sharing our space with friends old and new. We are now building our 6th truck a Ford econoline 350, which I believe you are familiar with! Lookin forward to hitting the road again - you never know we might meet up. Happy travels.
Problem with Rosetta Stone is they offer Brazilian Portuguese which you don’t want to learn if you’re moving to Portugal. Unless you’re moving to Braga. Lots of Brazilian immigrants there.
I was just about to comment this! It’s quite hard to find an app that teaches Portuguese and not Brazilian Portuguese.
A cautionary tale...
My aunt set up a trust to ran a special needs residential centre
She built her own house nearby, but got convinced by the trust members to sell up and invest that capital into doing up the old garage on the trust property into her own apartments.
She didn't do her due diligence, signed a bad contract, was later kicked out and lost all her money and retired pennyless.
Not saying this will happen just saying think everything through, get legal advice and have discussions of what if scenerios.
Do something far smaller. Buy a nice property with little of land and develop it incrementally depending on how you feel and how much time you want to spend with young kids.
Adventure! It's not crazy to grow your own food and bring joy to others. It's a win win. The people will love you and help you figure things out. If you get joy it was the right choice.
I LOVE you! I pray that you understand how greatly you contribute joy and hope to those of us privileged enough to follow your life journey!
What a wonderful opportunity to ease into land ownership and retreat potential while you are still navigating travel with Noah as new parents. Congratulations to you all! ❤ What a lovely generous friend.
I just love that you have the feeling that the next place could always be the one... My husband and i are the exactly the same way. Our advice is though, sometimes the hunt is the most appealing part of the venture. Its one thing to consider all the possibilities and another to live thru them. I too think it would be wise to rent for 6 months or so before commiting to a purchase. At the end of that "honeymoon" phase, see if you still feel like its what you want or if you are ready to move on. There is much property for sale...im afraid if you buy and change your mind it could be hard to sell.
solar pump and reed bed should help keep natural pool clear!.. algae use sun light.. but when the sun comes out so switches on the solar pump, pump it into a reed bed and filter back into the pond..
One life to Live! Let's Go Travel Beans Let's Shoot for the Stars Big Love ❤️💜💛💙💚🤎🖤🤍
Whatever you choose I'll be right by your side with your new journey! ❤ U guys good luck and safe travels...
Don't bite off more than you can chew. Just buy a small portion of a land and you can make that your dream home.
Hi you three! I really enjoy watching your travel blogs. Ever since you started filming in Portugal and talking about the possibility of living there I am wondering if you ever asked if you would get a residence permit in Portugal as the UK doesn’t belong to the EU anymore.
After watching this video one other thing came to mind: Don’t you want to travel anymore? Because if you buy a big piece of land anywhere you have to be able to manage it and wether it is a retreat or a farm or a campsite you won’t be able to just pack up and go away for some time to do some exploring. You two come across as free spirits and not farmers. Just saying…
I’ll keep following 😊 Best wishes from Germany
Go with your heart as you head will talk you out of your dreams.
The one question I have is how much more travelling do you eant to do over the next couple of years? Working the land is an adventure within it self, just in one place 😊
Building something from scratch will be cost prohibitive, you’re not in a rush, keep looking for something that needs mild renovations.
Love all the ideas you guys have, and they all have promise, but then that's why its so hard to choose! Haha.
If it were me I'd go with rent somewhere for maybe 6 months, try living there to see if that's actually what you're into, learn some language etc, then working that out helps you decide if you wana do biz stuff there too.
It breaks it down into a smaller challenge and its much lower risk too.
What ever you decide though, good luck with it! All the best to you all 😊
Take your time. This is coming from n old lady who has had many businesses. My hubby n I found ourselves so busy we didn’t have time for our children. Not even enough time to go to beach:( . We sold everything and focused on them. Don’t get trapped:).
Marie
So excited for you. When i was young(er), I always fancied setting up a hammock camping retreat. Basic facilities, with a little shop to supply the guests. I hope you manage to realise your dream. Best of luck :)
Very entertaining video 📹 👏. You should stay there for 30 days to 60 days and see if buying property there is something you really want to do.
Love your channel! With both of your attitudes there is nothing you can't do.. It sounds like you are on a verge of a dream coming true.. follow your hearts ❤
Yes, follow your hearts..❤️
It's an extremely huge commitment, especially if you are planning on having more children. Really take this into consideration as you will be building, planning, financed etc etc.
Dive in, head first. Mind the depth. Take care! Safe travels!
The title alone is such an exciting thought
Love that guy is taking a ecological approach
I lived in Malta and loved it, but eventually I missed the green spaced in the UK and the ease of travelling - so I sold up and came back to the UK. My big advice is to find/befriend a solicitor or a good law firm you can trust to avoid being caught out by obscure regulations and laws that most local people never have to deal with, especially relating to buying property. The lease costs, that no one talks about, of the land your purchased flat was built on caught out a lot of would be Malta residents.
BTW I didn’t get the impression that Kevin meant free.
What passports do you have that will allow you to live and work in Portugal?
Love the caption of free land at Portugal
It is not really free. Plse read my comments about (Agricola ) land without water and electricity 😮😮😮
Well, I'd totally come and pay to park a campervan and drink with the Beans! 😆 But after reading Noah a bedtime story and putting him down of course!
Thanks for honorable mention. Live that dream! The property looks beautiful and if the licenses are already set, half the frustrations are already dealt with.
I think taking time to try before buying a good idea but let me throw a idea if you do go ahead with a rural retreat/holiday plus living option.
There is a huge gap in market for disability accessible holidays and folk who still want to travel and explore.... Just a idea to ponder.
Think you should take the land already with development approval and take the plunge by living there. However, would be a shame to rip down the existing building. Perhaps consider extending on from the building. Wish you luck in your decision.
You two are so fun !! I think,, STOP thinking and just DO IT !!! And have fun .
I love the Mondego and the riverside. But it does have high water at certain times of the year due to heavy rains. Flooding of low-lying lands is just a fact of life. That last place you were standing on might be a bit low to be totally dry when there are floods. I am not saying to not go for it, just be aware when you are planning.
Also, the University of Coimbra has a great language for foreigners program.
I have always told folks to go live in a place by renting and check out the area, people etc . .. and when the right place pops up you'll know.
Watch Mr. And Mrs. Adventure. They moved to Portugal and are renovation an old water mill into their home. They love prodigal. They are also taking language ,Portuguese on line.
Don't do it Emma, you know you'll be doing all the work.😅
Lol...Hellooo Mr. & Mrs. Hatter! I totally get where you're coming from and you're not insane. Or I am. Either way, we just have to ride the wave. I decided to build a van (Arthur Dent), and bought a beautiful piece of land in Florida, on a canal, 10 minutes from the Atlantic. The idea was to landscape, get water, electric, and use that as my home base while I traveled l. I was living in Vermont at the time and had a question for the zoning administrator, so called FL and found out I MUST build a 1200 Sq ft house on my property plus a 200 Sq ft garage! Coming from VT, where you can camp on your land, it didn't occur to me I'd ever be required to build a house, which I don't want. So, I sold the beautiful useless (to me) land and the search for what I want continues. The struggle is real. At least I have a great van. But, the idea of having the most tricked out campsite for your van on your own property is a great one! It's those niggly bylaws that can bite your a$$, so make sure you ask every question you can think of (including ones you can't think of, lol) before buying anything. Let me serve as the cautionary tale. 😂
Have You talked to the indie projects about living in Portugal? They have been through the seasons there and may be able to give you some insight.
Awesome ideas Beans, glad you are over thinking everything from jumping in to bolting other way. Just a suggestion for you both, how about being a house sitter short term especially during wet season, where you can park your van and travel 6 to 12 months there. Hard decisions all round no matter what you decide. Wish you luck in finding your dream piece of paradise. 🐛 🐍 🦋 🐠
I love your excitement, but just thought …. Remember how much you love to travel, do you want to be tied down. Whichever, I wish you the best of luck!!😊
Haa!!! I think its great that you can laugh about it. Its good that you are taking your time.
you are young. go for it. you two have plenty of living experience in vans etc... it wont be easy but you will have plenty if help with on line and feedback. If you try and fail... oh well. on to the next adventure older and wiser! good luck!
As long as you don't rush into it and do the proper research I think you'll make the right decision. As you mentioned with Van Life you had experience. An extended stay at a similar place would be great.
Have you seen the video of Dave in Portugal about the changes in Taxing foreigners?
It's a big commitment, but also very profitable at the same time. A man can't go wrong buying land. Time share is another way to go, rent like 400 sq foot for X amount a month. What ever you do, good 🤞 luck. Thanks 🙏 for sharing.
You have to decide what you want to do so have a fixed plan then buy land to suit. If you buy land then try and try and fit a plan to it it very likely will fall short of what is needed
@travelbeans.......Not travel beans but scammer
Passive income is the way to go….. set up a site that houses campervans and tents, all having individual little picnic tables surrounded by trees. You would just need a tiny home for yourselves, power connections and an ablution block for showers and toilets. Close down 2 months of the year whilst you go off travelling 👍
Go for it, diversify, nothing ventured, nothing gained. You’re young and still have the energy.
If all else fails you can sell, and still make money. Make your money work for you, also smart if you can invest with a trustworthy friend, associate(s). Perhaps invest in an existing business or seek out investors to build your business. Great video, always nice to have options. Follow your heart and passions, and everything else will fall into place.
@travelbeans....... lucky winner to what, or scammer???
I think it’s great and a realization of how everyone should be on moving, buying, growing a place in another country. Thanks for the laughs again.
Worse case scenario? You have a year or more of people following your videos to see how you get along. The good, the bad, the crazy, the funny, all of it. If 2-5 years down the road you realize it was fun and crazy but not what you ultimately wanted, cut your losses and move on. You will have met a lot of great people, and learned a lot of new skills. Trying, even if you fail is half the fun. In the end, win lose or draw you will have experiences and memories that no one can take away.
Just a quick observation, to let you know you're learning Portuguese from Brazil on that app. Hope you're having a great time in Portugal! 🙂
Start with how the heck are you planning on earning money in rural Portugal? Then, what kind of medical and other services do you need? What do you need to learn to do this and how hard are you REALLY willing to work? Can you farm sit or house sit? What is the worst weather you are willing to tolerate and for how long? Better to waste your money for a rental and be certain rather than waste your money on land you might never be able to sell. Advice from Alaska - rent for a year and keep enough cash reserve to get away or out of it if you need to. Lovely to milk goats and collect eggs when it's romantic, but when you're doing it because there's no other way to get milk and protein, it's a whole other tale.
you are not stupid at all. you are just not sure if you want it. in that case - hold on with purchasing the land. the second thoughts you have about buying the land in the first place show that you are not ready to make this big move. if you really wanted you would keep searching for the right land and get it rather than questioning if you really want it in the first place...
If these Portugal abandoned farms are as cheap as a couple of years rent in the UK, then I don't think you can go wrong! Like your motorhome in the US it can be your second holiday home if you do not end up moving there permanently. It can pay for itself if you air b&b it while you are on your travels and can give you so much adventure and freedom on your own land while you are there. Especially if you can pick fresh fruit off your own trees and dive in to your own stretch of the river for a swim!
I am so thrilled to have stumbled across your channel today. Up to now I've been following Those Happy Days, the ups and downs of van lifers Liam and Janine Day. I've travelled around the world with this lovely pair but right now they seem to have hit a brick wall and have stopped travelling. So you guys are a great discovery and I love that you are doing it all with a baby (and a very cute one too). I just subscribed and am looking forward to the next chapter.
You would be great hosts for a camper park, van park or very small holiday adventure spot. Don't make it a home, but a good business adventure. Your experience travelling in a van/camper has to have given you ideas. Don't shy away from your ambitions and goals. Noah's well being would be wise to consider first. Good Luck.
Such excitement! Good luck figuring it all out!
You guys need to work out if you're going to keep travelling or not. Because I have a normal suburban house and coming back to it after a period away itself a nightmare.
You guys know people there, but in general, building or renovating on rural areas is mot fast, and added costs for accessing a distant and difficult plot. In fact you might find it hard to find a builder prepared to take on a complex rural site.
Being a bit mad is underrated. Good video guys, excited to see where the journey goes. And nice to see Claire enjoying life at the retreat, worked with her for a very brief time.
You can always retire there whenever y'all are ready to settle and keep it as vacation/partial time home for now.
I love the look of the last place. No place will be perfect until you make it work for you. Thinking of all the possibilities from the wildly impractical, to the eminently practical, from best and worst case scenarios is the only way I would go into this. Remember, you two +1 always seem to enjoy the journey.