SEVR VS SWHACKER - Is One Better Than The Other?
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You should get John Lusk on the podcast! He's tested darn near every broadhead on the market
He does good work.
Getting John Lusk to take part would be a win for the archery community at large. Love his approach. I wouldn't mind seeing the Ranch Fairy (Troy Fowler) weigh in as well.
I second this comment
I’ve watched almost every video Lusk has put out, puts them to the test like no other
Get me his contact info and I'll reach out! -DS
Im digging you including the family. Solid move involving them in your passions. Our family is doing the same.
Just trying to brainwash them haha - for real though, I want them to know what I do for work and why I am so passionate about archery hunting! -DS
Swhackers all day!! Might not be as trendy or blingy as others... But its simple, affordable, readily available and works great!
sevrs are 15 a piece. and arguably alot more durable. I've seen shwackers crumble before. They ate too long and have a big groove for the blades, and made out of aluminum. And sevrs won't get deflection like other mecs. because they swivel around bone. Only mecs I will use. But iam going to try the beast broadheads this year.
@michaelbushey2787 glad those work for you and thanks for sharing your experience. 👍
Stick to what works for you, affordable and readily available. Goodluck this coming season!
@@michaelbushey2787 the bowmars have some awful penetration videos on their channel using sevrs. One was a turkey shot on the back that the Sevr actually bounced off......a TURKEY! No one has ever seen a shwacker "crumble"
I’m planning on using the Sevr for my Elk hunt this fall ! Pretty exited to give these a try !
Swhackers have proven to be best for me for several reasons
Man I just used the 1.75” sevr on a Central TX whitetail and the exit wound is absolutely insane. The head survived just fine and actually was able to sharpen the blade and put it back in quiver. I tried to leave it as a review pic for sevr but couldn’t find how to do that. Arrow was the rip xv at 400gr and 71lb triax.
I just used the Sevr on an Axis - very impressive!
I shot my whitetail doe a couple days ago with the annihilator and I wasn’t impressed. I had a clean broad side pass through and I had no blood trail. Luckily the doe ran under my stand and then laid down 30 yards away so I was able to watch her. I walked and walked around where I shot her and found one little drop of blood. Where she was laying there wasn’t a pool of blood. It was all internal. The cavity was full of blood. I’ve never had that before.
Swachers are the best broadheads out there killed a bunch animals with them can't go wrong with them.
I guide deer hunts in Ohio. I had 2 clients in camp recently using sevr broadheads. I was pumped to see how they worked. Both guys shot deer. I was highly disappointed in that both shots were perfect double lung. 1 deer had no blood trail at all. The other had droplets only. Luckily both both hunters were able to watch the deer run off and they didn’t go more than 60 yards. Both shots were midway up body. 1 was with a ravin xbow other was a new hoyt rx7 at 65lb. I’d like to see a 3 blade sevr come out. I personally shot 2 deer with the Levi Morgan shwacker. Great wound channel, both pass through shots, awesome blood trails. Best advice is shoot what performs best out of your bow. Confidence in your gear is top priority.
I shoot the same broadhead 100 grain, and I have never lost a deer since i switched to levi morgan shwacker
Nice to see you bringing the children into help I really like that Dan
God's Blessings to you and your family
I'm a big schwacker fan. The last two deer I killed this season ran no more than 20 yards. I have used the same set for years, I just sharpen them up a lil bit on my grinder and throw a new band on.
Used swhacker for the past few years. They are great. Never have a far track job. The last few white tail never made 20 yds.
I know the sevrs are supposed to be the “best” but, the results I’ve had with the 1.75’s have been underwhelming. Killed the deer but, I was expecting a rage-type cut and it definitely was not. Blades were chewed up and bent. Just not what I expected. The blunt little wing blades have to hurt penetration too…swhackers in the quiver to try next.
you're testing the 3 broadheads I've most recently used. (past 5-6 years). I am using the iron will now. Your shot through ballistics gel is a great way to show that penetration through foam/gel does not relate to performance on an animal, as I would be amazed if the two blade mechanics would penetrate more than either of the fixed blades. Has to just be the drag on the blade/shaft or something that has an effect when shooting gel type material.
They make a 1.75” Schwacker that is the best of all the schwackers if you ask me.
So how can a 2 inch mechanical out penetrate 1 1/8 inch cut on contact?? I think ya get so much shaft drag with gel it doesn't correspond with what happens in the real world. Inside a critter is viscous and lubricating i think gel is exactly opposite.. maybe not . Im just a dumb hillbilly so take everything i said with a grain of salt. Love the show have a great day bro✌️
Never tested but that logic adds up to me
Agree.. I get the same basic results when I shoot diff BH's into my foam targets as well.. they all penetrate w/in a inch of each other.. Brand or style don't really seem to effect much, mostly IMO because the Gel and Foam are designed to pretty much stop whatever and friction is the reason.. Live animals, there isn't nearly the amount of friction IMO.. These gel tests are really a poor representation of what ppl who use them are trying to accomplish.
I started using swhackers this past season. 2 huge bodied bucks, only went 25-30 yards...👍😬
Swacker deploys on the rib cage. So it actually deploys really fast on a real animal, dues serious damage as well. Liquefied 1.5 lungs, shot out of a umerex air sabor. I'm pretty sure it made some bone act as shrapnel
I have been with Muzzy so long its insane. I used a Grim Reaper micro on my elk this year and it performed flawless. I wouldnt say it was any better than my Muzzy 100's.
Do you use the 3 or 4 blades? I have a couple 4 blades that were given to me that I haven't used yet and was wondering if it was worth buying something else or if they're good.
Especially the newer Levi Morgan edition Schwacker. Made in the USA
Except you can’t easily sharpen curved blades. I prefer #207 for that reason
Wayne Endicott shoots the grim reaper carni four for everything. I wonder how that would do
I killed a elk with the 1.75 sevr I wouldn’t recommend it for elk . The gel isn’t a true test nothing like the real meat to test it. I found the sevr slows way down on impact when it hit the thick skin of and elk. Losing all forward momentum… and is super loud on impact which I really don’t like .. I went back to ironwill hard to beat something that’s a solid and true.
Was blessed enough to get a buck in NJ over the weekend. Used a SEVR 1.5. Hard quarter away from a tree saddle. Entered about the last rib and exited the opposite armpit. Full pass through. Went about 60 yards. Total weight 465. 125 SEVR 1.5 with mfjj titanium half outs on a black eagle rampage 300 spine
Surprised the Hades had least penetration thats pretty crazy….and also thought a 1.75” sevr would definitely penetrate more than a Shwacker 2”….especially due to the awesome tip the Sevrs have on them. Very similar to the Hades tip
Gel doesn't test penetration on arrows well. If he were to spray the shaft and the broadhead with something like cooking spray or oneshot lube you would see what is really being tested is the friction on the arrow and broadhead.
The sevr didn't go as far because the blades open on entry cutting 1.75" the whole time where as the swhacker cut 1" for the first 3" and the then started to open. The swhacker wasn't cutting 2" until halfway thru the gel block.
Its safe to say they all will get the job done, imo it comes down to preference
Use what you're comfortable/ accurate with. 👍👍👍
Good shit dan
Yupp. And everyones setup depends on what they should and shouldnt use also big variable. Lower poundage, shorter draw id deff use a good fixed head. Luckily my specs and setup i can kinda get away with any head id want and be fine, at least for whitetail deff
@@Orr_s agreed and same. 👍👍
If you take a hairdryer or a heat gun to the outside at distance and lightly heat the ballistic gel it will get rid of the “wrinkles” and make the gel crystal clear just an FYI
"Mom what happens if you eat it..." LOL kids are so great!
I’d love to see you get your hands on and test the new bowmar broadhead
I like all these choices maybe don’t stack the ballistics gel. I think the the top block had the advantage since the weight of the block was changing the amount of friction on the bottom. It might not make a difference but I expected the fixed to out perform and I’m a mechanical guy.
you are 100% correct. This has been shown before by putting a lube on the arrow and the broadhead then shooting it into gel. Same 2 arrows one with lube and one without will show an extreme difference in the penetration.
Large single bevel broad heads will always underperform in gel because of the surface area they have and the friction that creates in gel. It does not work the same way in an animal.
@@Jaxd9795dead on. Single bevel will always outperform when hitting bone. Gel doesn’t equal animals. Glad Dan is going to test on animals
Hey Dan I know you love the Grim reaper microhades..any particular reason you prefer the 3 blade one over the 4? Just curious thanks
You should use a pork shoulder.l used a Sevr loved them the slap cut was over 6inches.
I wonder if the difference in penetration is due to the frictional resistance of the broadhead in the Clear ballistics block. Seeing that the 3 blade probably has the most, followed by the Iron will, sevr and Swhacker having the least. Especially, if the swhacker opened up later in the block. I am definitely interested in see your on animal results in the future.
Personally, I have always been a little hesitant to use mechanical heads. This is only reinforced by a coworkers son that has lost two deer using Mega meat heads recently. He had good shot placementon both, but found no blood trails after many hours searching. He has now switched to fixed blade. Anyone who has lost a deer knows how sick it makes you feel.
Here's what I can promise ya - I am more confident hunting with a sharp fixed broadhead ... I only want folks to choose whatever gives them the most confidence! -DS
You gotta try the Grim Reaper Mini Mag. Absolutely devastating
Shwacker are great killed lots of deer with everything is great about them except one major thing the ferrule is weak and bends very easy all I can say don’t hit much bone with them because they will bend over which is not great
I'd be curious to see how they perform at distance like 20 to 30 yards, something I doubt anyone wouldn't take and see what they can do after some energy had bled off. Just a thought, good stuff Dan God bless you and yours!
Thanks for watching! -DS
Swhacker is better for me. 100% reliable, short blood trails and they are waaay easier to replace and sharpen blades.
Sevr hands down..devastating hole and blood trails...I got pics
Sevr all the way. I’m nobody special but nothing lives after I hit it with a sevr
The whole point of the swhacker is to open up inside that’s like the whole idea lmao
I would say save a elk scapula and get sum tanned hide then you have the jell. Then test the broadheads and see what they do?
Are you fletched left or right twist on your arrow? My Swhacker #269's have a a right right bevel. Not sure how much of a difference it will make on game.
“Mom what happens if you eat it?”😂
This is my 5th season with sevr titanium 1.5. By far the best all around broadhead I've ever used. LEGIT. Enough said lol
Would you trust on an elk? I’m wanting to try the sevr 1.5 or 1.75 for elk this year.
Same question
You trust on elk.? 1.5 or 1.75
Dan should try the QAD Exodus swept or full
noted
Road killed deer?
A pig from a butcher?
I have a 1minute video of a pa whitetail shot with a shwacker. It shows an inlet hole thru hide, inside ribcage, lungs, and exit hole. Straight pass thru at 25 yds. How do I send it to you? It's 5.3k 60fps.
Any reasoning for going with the 3 blade GR vs. the 4 blade?
I really like how the SEVRs fly but I hate having to deal with the rubber band. Have to remove the broadhead to replace it.
Alright i was on the Sigel bevel band wagon for awhile and they are great but people need to stop talking about the rotational wound channel you will only ever get 1 or 2 rotations at best if that through an animal.... single bevel is great for splitting bones and cutting when dull like a cheap pocket or kitchen knife for proof watch Troy at ranch fairy they don't rotate that much through any animal however depending on if you're shooting left or right grind bevel they do try to spin a lot in the air making them less accurate if you're not tuning you're off set or helical fetching to the grind of your single bevel of choice... single bevel Brodheads are amazing but please for the love of archery stop saying they screw through animals because that is just a huge over statement
May catch some heat but….
How far were you? Think you said 6 feet. How many shots are at 6 feet? What would you say would an average or a long shot? I would like to see what the results would be at a hunting distance vs a shot that vast majority of hunters will ever shoot.
I can appreciate what you’re trying to show on the damage. I love my schwacker and am looking forward to getting a single bevel.
My guess is you’ll be testing heavy Vs light arrow penetration in the ballistic gel. That would be best at distance also instead of 6 feet.
I've been using swhacker 269 2.5 inch cut killed animals nothing made it more than 50 yards had 1 non pass thru shoulder shot on a big buck blood trail Was non existent but didn't matter when he ran 35 yards and died
My go to mech is the G5 deadmeat V2 and go to fixed is the IW SB. Great results with both. Never shot one with a sevr. Hard pass on schwacker. Absolutely drilled one through both lungs on a buck 2 seasons ago. Perfect broadside shot and complete pass. Arrow soaked in ling blood. Deer died about 1-150yds away but only from a grid search as there was hardly any bloodtrail at all. Glad it got the job done ultimately but beyond disappointed with the blood trail. Doubt i will use one again..never had such a weak trail on such a great shot before.
I would like to see some test/opinions on the G5 deadmeat. I shot it into a doe and had crazy blood spraying everywhere. But I think most will do that with a perfect double lung?
I use the sevr 1.5. Big holes on a doe this past season.
Swhacker for tree stand whitetail, IW with bleeders on western big game. If you put any of them where they’re supposed to go, you shouldn’t have an issue.
Just don't send the sevr through a scapula, tested the 1.5 on an elk scapula and it forced the blades beyond the stops and wound up an inch cut after. It also did the worst with penetration being beaten by the old rage, nap spitfire, and grim reaper micro Hades 3 blade
Evolution expandable!! Wounds are devastating. No rubber bands. Fly just like field points
Those sevrs are nasty on whitetail. I've blown a couple through stuff, mechanicals aren't supposed to get through. Really can't go wrong with any of those in that line-up.
It would be cool to add some food die to the wound channel to see what it did better
Too bad it wasn't a 2" sevr. Apples to apple's
I’m never using an expandable again. The second time a rage blade bent and gave a terrible blood trail. Going to the muzzy one piece head. The tried and true. At 40 yards they fly like a field point for me.
I don’t think I could use a Shwacker on an elk praying I get a pass through. Not a good enough entry for me to hope for a one sided blood trail. Im sticking to an IronWill or implant head.
How mad is swhacker right now. They’ve been around for how long and it seems as if people are just finding out about them.
Hide,gel, mdf(or elk shoulder blade) ,gel, hollow then reverse order. Try and simulate an actual animal.
That grim reaper is just a copy cat of the Ramcat
Axis are pretty hardy man. I got one a couple years ago with a rifle. Bullet was lodged in the offside hide. They’re dense for their size. Meat was great. It’ll be a good test for a broadhead for sure.
I keep wondering why you don’t try the QAD exodus and then it just dawned on me….I don’t think it’s made in USA 🤔
You talking about renting phantom cameras has me excited. Love watching super slow motion archery.
It's not going to be cheap haha - so when we do y'all better watch! -DS
I've looked into those to video shotgun patterns with duplex shot......great idea....mucho dinero.....@@ElkShape
I tell everyone to give sevr a try and you won’t look back. They are devastating on animals. From turkeys to elk they get the job done
Unfortunately Gel only tests the friction exerted on the arrow shaft and the broadhead. This isn't useful at all for penetration and it is obvious since all of these penetrated to nearly the exact same depth.
Sevr!!!! Shot a doe on Halloween with the sevr titanium 1.75. the entrance cut and exit was beautiful. She ran 60 yards. Awesome blood trail.
I don't think it's was a coincidence that the arrows penitrated less and less the lower they hit into the gel block, I think you need to switch them around, the one you shot into the bottom of the gel needs to shot first and into the top of the gel and so on. Ether way man I love your work.
Would love to see the grim reaper micro hades against a ramcat diamond bqck or hudroshock for accuracy, penetration, sharpness.
100g shwacker blasted ribs and totaled a heart for me this year. Flies much like a field point
Curious why the bottom one (grim reaper) seems like it’s direction is more downward than the other ones.. any idea?
G5 Deadmeat IMO is a better head than the Megameat. The shorter blades hold up a lot better and a 1.5” cut three blade puts blood on the ground.
All great heads but very animal specific. Really enjoyed your kids reaction 😂
I was hoping you were gonna use some hide and stuff in this vid from what you and Josh said on the other review video... damn. Looking forward to seeing those done!
I like the sevrs but I hate those O ring retention system. I’ve had them pop in the quiver! I went to the grim reaper fatal steel
Mom, what happens if you eat it? Hahahahahaha.
Dan have you tried annihilator broadhead what’s your positive and negative if you have thanks
I’ve gone to iron wills but also used a lot of rage hypodermic for a mechanical and had great kills
I would love to see you throw in a hybrid broadhead from Afflictor!!!!
Hey Dan, if your looking for a different alternative medium try a watermelon wrapped with 1/4" plywood with leather/carpet. T-bone mentioned it in a live insta feed with Brandon McDonald that it represents a deer sized cavity the best and I agree. I did mention the watermelon to Tim C. since he was testing arrow penetration based on arrow weight, but I don't know if he plans on doing it. Thanks for creating educational content and ABTing.
I like a big entrance hole, regardless of what head it is. Just in case there’s not a exit!
I switch to sevr this year shot a buck with it great head i think you will like it..great show keep up the good work
I have a friend that tracks deer with dogs, and the swacker is the number one broadhead that was used in lost deer.
Great lil video bro, really liked having the kids and family in it, I've used schwacker and sevr, liked em both but wasn't getting great penetration so I switched to fixed heads two years ago but still use mechanicals in the crossbow for the kids love both of what you had plus grim reaper whitetail specials and the slick trick mechanical that is like a schwacker forget the name had great with all them except a few broken blades with white tail specials, when them elk hunts dropping bro?
Ballistic gel is an excellent product - it stops all arrows within 1 inch of each other.
Love seeing the kids involved ! Good content and entertaining as well.
Thank you!
Something we agree on is the grim reaper micro hades pro. They fly amazing, are razor sharp out of the package and they do well on bone contact
I really like you got the kids involved. Keep up the good videos. I shoot sever they are awesome
Make sure it's sharp, make sure it's accurate and it's all relative.
I want to see some more work out videos and exercises to help with archery
I would really like to see the beast and g5 Megameat in your testing
I'd throw the SIK Meat Seeker into the mix as well.
Are you going to do a video on the Mathew Match string?
Sevr.
👀 look at the thorn XV mechanical broad heads. Good design like to see you test them. I’d be willing to send you a pack if you’re willing to put them in a video. I’m not sponsored by anyone just a fan of the channel
@@chrishanlon6550 I tried Thorn crossbow series 3 years ago and got to shoot three whitetail bucks with them. Only one of them fully opened, all three were damaged beyond repair (bent like a boomerang), and no blood trail on any of the deer. Two shots were complete pass through, double lung shots….arrows laying on top of the ground a few feet past point of impact. The third one was facing me so I shot him in the center of the chest, the arrow came to a stop at the hip knuckle….this buck dropped in his tracks. The other two were a bit difficult to find, but thankfully my wife brought the dogs up and we were able to recover them. I contacted Thorn and they finally decided to send me replacements…. But they didn’t send the same ones I purchased originally, the 125gr crossbow series…they sent the 100gr standard series. I tried to get them to let me swap them for the same ones I bought from them but they ignore all of my emails, texts, and phone calls. I threw the ones they sent in the trash where they belong….they were the most expensive paperweights I’ve ever bought. I’ll never buy another Thorn broadhead, even if they dropped the price to a $1 bill per pack. I truly hope that you had better results than I did, hopefully they work great for you.
Good luck in the upcoming season!
Was it the Levi Morgan swhacker? Because his is different and you should show how sharp they are before and after , because the sharpness in the animal matters a lot , every time you shoot into gel it changes the consistency of the gel , there not a good test, I know cause I’m retired and watch a lot of broad head reviews lol
I'm not retired and I also check out a lot of broad head reviews, they are fun to see. I hope we can cook up a legit test down the road! Thanks for watching! -DS
I use the SEVR 2.0 and its nasty I love it
I love the swhacker took alot of good animals with it. Try Levi Morgan #269 great broadhead 125gr 2.5 inch cut
@@codyjohnson675 how's the penetration with those
Swhacker for the win
Just used a sevr 2.0 on a whitetail. Insane bleeder.