EOS-R Disappointment | Time to Switch from Canon
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- In this video I share my thoughts on the Canon EOS R. This is not in any way a review as I did no technical testing, nor did I try the video features on this camera, however I did shoot with it for over a week, every day in Iceland. It's not a bad camera at all, but I am disappointed because it's the not the mirrorless I hoped Canon would release.
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Sometimes people who don't usually review gear do the best reviews of all. Full-time reviewers get too concerned with the tiny details. Photographers like yourself can actually review how the gear works day to day. And that's what matters most.
So very true
The New Travel agreed. People get obsessed with details that have little impact on reality. I shoot sports for a company that mainly uses uses 1D mk4 cameras, 100-400 lenses and version 1 70-200 2.8 IS lenses. Everything is shot in medium jpg and customers wouldn’t know any difference. I felt into the trap of buying the latest and greatest canon gear 5 years ago, spending almost £30k and lost a small fortune selling it used.
Canon is supposedly releasing a beastly mirrorless camera next year that's supposed to shake up the industry. But they're holding off until they get a solid collection of new glass. So perhaps you just have to wait 6 months or so? Or maybe it's over for Canon. We'll see
@@grantos There is a finite limit to advancements, as currently with mobile phones, as there was with analogue cameras and will be with digital imaging. The race is about convincing people they need something when really they don't. For the most part it's about getting people to look at your latest must have.
The z7 is a terrible value at it's current price and specs
There's a PR guy at Canon who's really regretting that loaner right now...
I don't think so. Any news is good news. Thomas mentioned the camera in three (?) of his videos, so he increased the visibility. I, for example didn't know that model before.
At least that's how I hope/believe that marketing works....
His opinion is informed but not necessarily relevant to everyone. Plus there are those contearians who will buy it because someone else doesn't like it...
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And the fact, as I've not heard, didn't use RF lenses at all.
Great critic. I really didn't hear anything negative about the Canon eos r just a great description of a photographer's relationship with his camera. Very Shakespearian. Looked good to me..ice caves, rising tides, rain, cold what's not to like?
Sure - goofy marketing people will shudder. But I bet their research and development gurus are running this up to their bosses with happy grins.
A camera reviewed by a photographer from a photographer's point of view makes a refreshing change.
Third!
Especially if they say what you want to hear (tongue in cheek)...
To be honest I can’t see me changing my digital camera again, I'm happy with my 5DIII and 7DII and my analogue cameras. But unfortunately what you say could be true, cameras have become very divisive and more than ever before people fall out over kit rather than debate images. I very rarely look at reviews, but I was interested in Thomas's view as both a very respected photographer as well as being a respected UA-camr. The only part that let him down was someone from Blackpool criticising NUFC.
Funny thing is i bought an 5d mk IV this year. Since i have the EOS-r the 5d is my second camera. I love the EOS-r. AF is better then the 5d.
Mark Harris right? Lol he said he was the worst to review it but I think he is one of the best lol I can read a spec sheet. I wanna know the whole story from a photographer’s point of view!
I bought it after the price came down, and I use it for portraiture and street with older dslr lenses and vintage lenses for the m39 and m42 mounts. I love it a lot (I also own A7 III, Oly M1 mark II, and Z6). I do not care about its video capabilities. Canon knows how to make a camera, in my opinion.
Full frame has its limitations, even with super high megapixel tech. Try Fuji GFX medium format for landscape, you’ll love it🤨! I’m a Sony user tho.
Indeed. If he wants more megapixels, he needs a larger sensor as there are fundamental constraints of physics that can not be pushed too far. That is... if we agree that cameras will continue using traditional sensor reading techniques without any smart machine learning, etc. However, I hope he will focus on the photography content which he does well and stays away from the "cameras" side-of-things in this channel. Nearly any modern camera is good enough for the work that he does. We are here mainly for the creative side of things
Every system has its limitations, not just full frame. M43(and smaller) to medium format(and larger), all tech is a trade-off. It's all about picking what fits your needs best as an artist.
I'm gonna sound like a noob probably but what are the limitations of a full frame camera?
Lens selection is what blows. D850 is far more versatile and damn close on ultimate quality.
For IQ you are right, but what about weight? If you use a 24-70 and 70-200 on FF i wonder what lenses you would need for the GFX and how heavy they are.
Was thinking about the Canon and decided last week to give it a miss. Also fancied a change from Sony so have bought a second hand Nikon D810 and looking forward to trying it.
I've had a Canon5DMIV and a D810 side by side for over 3 years, and now the D850 for a year. In my opinion I can hands down say that if you're only or primarily shooting landscape the D850/810 is far surperior choice over the 5DMIV. The secondhand market's fantastic, you can find a good D810 for only about 1200USD in my local classified.
@@clawjs In the Uk I managed to get a fairly mint used D810 with low shutter count and extras for £1050 and pairing it with the new Tamron 17-35 f2.8-4 OSD. Although a larger camera the lens is light and the total carry weight is only about 200 grams more than my A7 with 16-35 f4. Having only really ever used mirrorless I got to play with both a D850 and the new Canon Eos and liked the form factor and ergonomics better than the Sony's to me. If I am out in the hills and moutains during winter with big gloes on etc, I was keen on the larger grip and button layouts.
Got my D810 paired with a 24-70 for landscape should I get a 14-24?
I have. D810. Love it. It works quite well as sports camera too :)
Nice 👌, none of Canons camera is on par with the D810 😂
Who’s watching in 2020 with the new eos r5 and r6 release?
I am! Interesting looking back :)
I am 🙂. This is amazing camera. I put order for R few days ago.
@@RijadHanic-virtual yeah I'm thinking of getting it as well, upgrading from Canon T7i
@@WillGoodlet it is
purchasing the Canon R right now.
Totally get your point. I am still using 5d mk2 and waiting for the true replacement. But on the other hand, I don't think that you will get a significant upgrade in your pictures by switching the system (from 5d mkiv). One thing that bothers me in your video is that you skipped the fact that Canon nailed the lenses for EOS R. If you are ok with the weight - it is really the best thing you can get.
Rafał Konieczny oh please as if other brands don’t have good lenses...get a grip man.
because he is using an adapter for his current lenses
It's time to get the Fujifilm GFX!!!
Yes the images are great with a GFX. But its way to expensive with lenses from wide to tele (roughly twice the price of a Z7 with holy f4 trinity) plus you have to mutch limitations yet in lens choices. But they getting there.
The obvious choice!
Andreas Larzon if he’s using manual focus then there’s plenty of choice from legacy lenses with adapter
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a canon user say anything like this. Im impressed with your honesty
because they are the most brand loyal ua-cam.com/video/EMfCDujQywY/v-deo.html
Yes, we are known liars. It's a blessing and a curse really....
Can I have your number ?
Impresssed by a cry without logical reasoning?! Meeh
He will stay with Canon as soon as the pro version of the Canon R is out (+/- fall 2019). He implicitly says so if you watch the entire video ... The EOS R is a consumer body which shouldn’t be compared to pro mirrorless cameras such as the Sony A9 (A7 is also for consumers).
Thanks Thomas, great review, love your honesty.
Good luck finding your new camera! I hope it is a fun journey and look forward to see what you decide.
If you get perfect pictures out of the 5D4 why change? What could another camera really offer to you? Would the image quality really be better? I am interested in understanding why you would like to change, because that didn't really come across in the video.
You beat me to it with this comment. If it ain't broke why fix it?
Maybe he's simply feeling uninspired by using the same gear day in and out. It's always possible that a huge change in operations could bring about a massive creative boost from where he least expects it. Just a guess, of course. Perhaps his bodies are reaching that point where shutter count is starting to become a concern?
I have to agree, Fraulein, with your last statement.
Maybe cause it's too heavy?
Weight and size.
After seeing Peter McKinnon's video where he basically framed all the negatives as challenges for his work in an obvious I'm sponsored and want to make money fashion, I'm really happy to see you are actually calling this out for what it is.
I don't think McKinnon is sponsored. But that video was really weird.
That said, he is just a hipster, mediocre photographer with a huge following who makes videos of himself fucking about for a living. After getting lucky with a couple of viral videos full of terrible advice.
Thomas on the other hand actually knows what he is doing.
@@scriptosaurusrex He is sponsored by Canon. He's listed on their site.
@@SeanandOreo have a link? Quick google didn't help me here.
I was going to say that he would need to disclose that by American branding laws, at which point I realised he os Canadian and I have no idea if they have the same rules.
Just curious, and would be curious about other names on the list who seem suspect at times.
Thanks
Scriptosaurus rex
This is the link you are looking for.
www.canon.ca/en/pro-photo-video/Industry/Professional-Photography
@@scriptosaurusrex sure, just Google Peter McKinnon's sponsored Canon. The first result for me is from Canon Canada and on their website they have him listed. He also has gone to their warehouse in some of his videos and Canon Canada consistently loans him products for his videos.
Did you try any R lenses or did you only use the old EF lenses with an adapter? I think the R series is made so Canon can step up the quality of their optics. The camera is almost secondary. The shortened flange distance means that the rear element can sit a lot closer to the sensor meaning that a lot of the problems of their past lenses can be bypassed. I tried the new 50mm f/1.2 R the other day and it's mind-blowingly good.
The R lens prices are just insane and dont justify their price. You pay for the new mount developpement cost, the 50mm f/1.2 R is good yes but at current price these lens are too expensive for what they are.
@@mrjm6752 but the question was "did he try it?" not "what do you think about the price off those RF lenses?" 🤣
I completely get where you're coming from. I've been shooting with the Canon 5D Mark II for the last decade and only now am I finally looking at upgrading. I had the exact same thoughts about the Canon mirrorless after shooting a gig with the 5D Mark IV, but I've completely changed my mind and opted for a Sony A7R III/A7 III with Metabones adaptor to still use my Canon lenses. Thanks for the great review, I feel less alone in this chaotic world of camera reviews now. I hope to see a Sony review from you before I go ahead and make my final purchase. Keep up the great vlogs and landscape work!
My 5d mkii took a 2 meter dive a few weeks ago onto concrete. Before that, I hadn't seen anything from Canon worth the upgrade.
The Image Engineer don’t go for adaptors, I’ve seen that they mess with the focus at any given aperture and really messes with the eye AF which is one of the most talked about feature they have
I love my A7iii for what I got for the price. However, that Nikon D850 is a beast.
Wow, having just watched this I thought you’d been sitting on my shoulder when I’ve said almost exactly the same thing. I’ve been waiting years for Canon to join the mirrorless market & I was so,excited when they announced their arrival but instead of kicking the door down & jumping in to the party room with a couple of bottles of tequila & shouting out loudly “let’s get this party started”, they’ve politely knocked on the door & waited for Sony to answer & asked “can we come in please?”.
I too shoot with the 5d4 & have felt so let down with this rather uninspiring mirrorless offer from Canon & their announcement a couple of years ago saying that their DSLR business was a mature business & they were looking to invest more elsewhere still haunts me.
Great to see you again Tom. Not been on UA-cam for awhile now. Lovely video and information. Happy shooting.
Hey Thomas! Great video, thanks for sharing! I'd only like to say that do please be careful when considering a switch. I'm a four year long Sony Alpha shooter, Recently I had the pleasure of playing around with the 5d mark IV and the ease of postproduction colour wise blew my mind. Seriously thinking about switching from A7rIII to 5d IV...
Finally, finally, a review (sort of) that gives us an honest, in the field, feedback. Thanks, Thomas! Personally, I think that all cameras have reached their technological saturation point. Unless they start producing a camera with legs that goes out and takes images for you from your couch. Having said this for landscape photography specifically have you considered the Fuji medium format lineup? I had a look at a GFX 50 the other day and it is impressive, especially for landscape. I'm seriously considering looking at the GFX100 when it comes out. A lot of money and a big investment but a formidable tool for in the field and not much larger than a DSLR.
A few episodes ago I mentioned the Fujifilm GFX100 and the new Rangefinder 50 on Thomas' message board and he was kind enough to respond to my comment on his video. Unbeknownst to him I also contacted Fujifilm U.K. marketing manager and suggested they loan him the Rangefinder 50 and the GFX100 due for release early next year. I hope Fujifilm have done that because both parties can greatly benefit from such a venture. Greg
I am tempted by those Fujis too but they are too big of an investment for me. I rather invest that money in a few more travels ;-)
Michael Breitung good point
Adam, I used to think that cameras had reached their technological saturation point -- in the 1980's. Boy was I wrong! I think that at every point in the evolution of camera technology, people unconsciously adapt to what they perceive as the technical boundaries of the instrument. Going beyond that boundary, such as trying to photograph most of anything in broad daylight, was just bad judgement and a sign of inexperience. At the time, each such limitation is often a part of good practice. However, when new cameras with new capabilities come out, pioneer photographers start extending the range of images they can successfully take. Pretty soon, the new level becomes standard practice.
The GFX cameras are a really exciting option for pros. I think the GFX lens lineup needs to fill out a bit for landscape work, but it's getting there. As for cameras reaching their "technological saturation" point, while I think it's fair to say that digital cameras are a maturing technology, I doubt that the pace of innovation is going to slow any time soon - especially in this highly competitive environment. Technology always surprises - often you never know you needed something new until it exists and you see it for the first time. Come to think of it, I can think of a few items I'd really like to see in handheld digital cameras of the next decade: sensors with >15 stops of dynamic range; high-res (2K/4K) OLED rear screens with better contrast and brightness than today's crappy rear LCDs; more energy-dense lithium metal batteries; built-in geotagging via onboard GPS; better weather sealing (IP56 or better) and honest certification of this feature by manufacturers... I could go on ;)
But yeah, cameras today are pretty good. It's the photographers that suck most of the time ;)
You're a brave man Thomas... this video is sure to fire up the camera gear trolls! That aside, I generally agree with what you say. I felt the same way about the Nikon Z offerings. However, I'm super happy with the D850 so not in the market to change.....yet. Will be really interested to watch your journey to find a new camera. 👍
Had my d750 for year and a half absolutley love it, built in wifi is a treat too
Hi Julian. Yes, the Z would be more of a sideways step from a D850. Z7 is much better at video than the D850 of course but the stills for landscape are kinda similar between the two. But I would guess you would still take those amazing pics you do even if you had the Z. Cheers
Thanks Andreas 👍 Like Thomas said, it's not that the R (or Z) are in anyway bad cameras - you would still be able to take awesome pictures with them - they just are the game changers some people were expecting. Still, it's great to see the camera market so alive at the moment. 😃
@@jbairdexp Yes its great times with many new products to choose from. And we all ocasionally get effected by the GAS (Gear aqusition syndrom). :D At the end of the day its kinda fun to dream about new shiny things. But will it make your life better? Maybe, maybe not. Does the decision always need to be routed in logic? Probably not because emotion is sometimes also a good deciding factor... :D If all photographers were basicly Vulcans (a logic driven rase in Star Trek) then we would have wery boring forums and product launches.
So maybe it should be like in golf. If you buy a new driver you will most defenetly be a mutch better golfer then before. I practiced that alot... :D
Hi Thomas - I do really appreciate all you've said about this camera and had I owned a Canon 5d mark IV, I'm pretty sure this would not be a good switch. But I was using the Canon 6D, and I have to say, I'm just loving my new Canon R. It has a great feel to it, is nice and small, and works wonderful with the adapter and my old lenses. As mostly an outside landscape photographer, the greatest feature is actually the automatic sensor shutter upon closing as I ALWAYS had issues with keeping my sensor clean. Also the articulating screen has been awesome in certain situations. But really it just has been taking great photos. I think for someone like me, this is a great camera and I'm super happy with it.
All these dissapointing releases just to protect a Cinematography line that no general citizen will ever buy.
Sisekelo Duma I bought it and I am really happy. Probably because I bought cameras to take photos
EOS R5?
The general citizen takes shit stills and even worse videos (if he does them at all). But that doesn't stop him worrying sick about how many pixels and frames/sec the camera does. II hope cameras will evolve into separate still and video types to get this video crap out of the hair of us still photogs. Actually it would be a re-evolution, first happened over 100 years ago.
Sony A7R3 a true beast and you can still use all your canon and Nikon glass with one or two adapters☝️
roberto cordero Having seen videos of this guy shooting on the coast with sea spray in the air as well as in rain/inclement weather and having had a Sony a7riii breakdown on me after being caught in a rain shower I would be very careful on taking what is without doubt a good camera into environments it simply can't cope with. Lensrentals conducted a very thorough tear down of this camera and as with previous versions found it to have zero weather sealing on the base, in their words:
"In case you can’t tell, I’m pretty unhappy with the bottom design of the Sony A7rIII. There’s absolutely no protection or improvement over the Sony A7rII. Now the case designers (and most of you) are probably aware that rain falls down from the sky onto the top of the camera. The repair people (like us) are aware that people set cameras down and puddles occur; also splashes go up, and sometimes cameras are held in portrait mode. In other words, a liquid will find your weakest point".
www.slrlounge.com/lensrentals-does-a-tear-down-finds-the-kink-in-the-sony-a7riii-weather-sealing-armour/
Not being anti Sony here as I like the camera but from a landscape perspective where ruggedness is important especially for the kind of 'off the grid' photography Thomas does I feel these issues should be considered.
Weather sealing doesn't bother you
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For the price the d850 would be a better option for landscape. The thing about sony is that they have all the best features but aren’t the best at any. And people who specialize are turned off by it.
@@tonyjames5444 They also concluded the EOS R lacked sealing outside of its dials & buttons...an odd choice to be sure. It looks like if you want ruggedness in a FF mirrorless system, Nikon is the way to go (said as a Sony shooter).
Hyperbole and exaggeration! I specialise in seascapes and I'm not turned off by my A7RIII (or my A7R) .... Image quality is inditinguishable from the D850 (in any objective review).@@Morespizzle
I'm confused by this video, you purchased a Canon EOS-R in hope that it would be an upgrade from the 5D Mark IV? - Did you not know that it uses the same Sensor as a 5D Mark IV? The only advantages of a Canon EOS-R is the fact it's mirrorless, has an electronic view finder, flippy screen and a few extra nifty buttons. The 5D Mark IV is over 2.5 years old, on it's initial release cost £3600 - EOS-R cost £2400, canon's first Mirrorless camera and by no means an upgrade in comparison to the 5D Mark IV. I'm interested in knowing why the 5D Mark IV doesn't cut it?
If it's mega Pixels you're after and dynamic range then you should be looking at Hasselblad or Fujifilm GFX!
He didn't buy the camera it was a loaner. You need o watch his prior videos on this to get the full picture.
@@paultaylor5513 Loaned camera or not, the expectations was for a replacement.
@@GingerPhotographer I don't think so. He said he was disappointed when the specs of the camera were announced.
But why Canon use 2 years old sensor in EOS-R?
@@janiriekkinen401 some people that have never worked in tech expect major jumps on a yearly basis. well, sometimes you just can't go any further. and if you can't improve on something that has reached its limit you start working on ergonomics and other stuff (btw, the R system is more about the lenses than the cameras). also, keep in mind that R&D costs money. doing something revolutionary (by today's standards) would make the end product prohibitively expensive. not to mention that it would take years before it hits the market. i'm pretty sure Canon (or other camera manufacturer for that matter) could pull off such tech. but how many would actually spend money on it? how many of you own a $40k Hasselblad?
i wish popular photographers that vlog or have some form of interaction with the community would stop sharing what gear they have and focus solely on the photography part.
I just got one and I absolutely love it. Best camera I’ve ever owned.
I understand where your coming from, yet as someone who works in a camera store I doubt I’d really sell you on this camera. As your needs are something different and more niche than most. More the 5Dsr but again doesn’t really improve what you have overall other than res. Canon has very clearly made a statement about the RF Glass though 28-70 f2, the 50mm 1.2 the 35 1.8 just insane lenses for sharpness and speed. I would say for most people (myself included) that a single card slot is fine, even for professional work (haven’t had a SD card go down on me) but I get it as a more professional you want the security there, I’d wait and see. What canon did with the 5D II, was and is a outlier in the industry it was also 18 months old when the manual video feature was added. But other features on the EOS R have got me just simply the shutter closing to protect the sensor when in adverse weather while changing lenses (like you where in the video) is a game changer other companies may have to look at that cos if you had changed a lease when the weather is shit you’d probably have a lot of time cleaning it in post and potentially damaging the cameras sensors. Also I am not bashing other brands just my perspective!
Well, this camera has the same sensor as the 5D4, and you use it with EF (not RF) lenses, on a tripod, narrow aperture, with manual focus. This will indeed give you a 5D4, no reason to complain it is too similar to 5D4. The big promise is the new mount and the lenses it can facilitate - they indeed get fantastic reviews. The drop in filter adapter for CPL/ND for UWA lenses is also a nice touch. maybe wait for the next body, because this one is just something to put behind RF glass.
I wonder if he would think differently if he used the RF 28-70. Supposedly it's a beast and super sharp. Not to mention Canon is also rumored to be releasing the sharpest wide angle ever...who knows. What I do know is that people rave about switching from Canon to Nikon or Sony but in the end, no one can tell the difference in the final product.
Just added a D850 to my existing D810 - both are stunning...
Glad to hear your thoughts, thanks :)
Remember, before the 5D mark II there was a 5D mark I. What you have in your hands in this video could be the mirrorless mark I. Thanks for an amazing YT channel. Cheers.
This is why I shoot on the Mamiya RB67 :) never need to upgrade
What about the RZ67?
@@HenryPiffpaff That's an upgrade in my book. Although the RB Pro-SD has a back with no light seals. hmmm...
I mean he has a 4x5 large format camera he could always break out!
@@Fnzzy that's true! But it can break! I'm happy with my RB67 - chose it over the RZ67! I'm pretty sure I am one of only two British landscape photographers that use a RB67 😂
I get annoyed when u leave ur camera bag open on the wet floor when u shoot
10:00 was so funny, i love your humour Thomas!!!!😆
I am on pins-and-needles waiting to hear what you are switching to. I had such high hopes for the EOS R and am so disappointed. It is so hard to look at all the recent camera and video advancement and find Canon lacking in technology. Over 20 years as a firm Canon shooter, and now... well.... it is hard to not look so longingly at the Sony A7r iii and all their amazing G Master and Zeiss options. I doubt I can wait to hear where you land, but I think it's off to Sony I go.
I bet it is a Sony - as part of their huge marketing push. But beware that Sony could be the next to quit cameras as the market implodes, as quickly as they bought into it when it was booming (in 2006). Because they are a consumer company and will follow the fashion to wherever the most money is to be made. They have no roots in cameras, not like Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Fuji & co.
Great analogy regarding The Toon Thomas! As a season ticket holder for 27 years, you are spot on mate!! Great video. Thanks.
Same boat. Please try the A7R3 and do a review! Please!
medium format is the way to go for me. Fujifilm is killing it lately!
It's really expansive tho, and there is no comparison for lens choices.
A7RIV with the new 60mpix sensor and 2 stops better DR will put current Fuji MF at shame. Wider options of lens to choose from, better AF, smaller body and cheaper.
Good on you mate for not falling for the "good enough" review style a lot of people have applied with regards to this camera. No-bs reviews are the best.
Great Video. It would be interesting while you test new cameras to show photos side by side shot on whatever new system you try along with what came out of your 5d mk iv.
I've been shooting with Canon since 1995... yes film. What is important to remember here is that no one manufacturer remains on top for long and certainly not forever. In the 80s and 90s, everyone was fawning over Nikon. Then Canon revolutionized the industry with its EOS autofocus system. The Nikon guys dismissed it. Eventually Nikon had to admit defeat and change their lens/camera body interface. Nikon then built a marketing campaign around their glass. Canon upped the ante with fluorite lens elements. I'm not going to go through the entire back and forth history of innovation between the two, but my point is that like the tides, the market share, advancements, and performance ebb and flow. Look at the replacement schedule of these cameras. Consumer models by Canon change every year. Prosumer models tend to be on a 18 month schedule. Pro bodies are on 5 yr schedules. These are not long term commitments. Then, look at the lenses. The lenses are where the commitment is. Canon's lenses are on what seems to be about 10 yr schedules. We need to evaluate "what works for us" on the system level, not a particular camera body. I understand the desire for something big, bold, and revolutionary. We all love something new and exciting. However, consider this... aren't we also happy with stability? We have comfort in knowing what to expect from our gear. Knowing what to expect and knowing the gear is what allows for a successful photograph and ultimately a successful career. There's more to this than simply a body or two.
EOS R is Canon's "test the market" camera. It was never intended to be an upgrade from the 5D4. Far from it. It's intended as an upgrade from the 6D2. Hopefully their next mirrorless offerings will take into account all the feedback they've had from it.
LOL, total feel your frustration and in fact, I felt the same since the Mark II and haven't even upgraded until I switched. For what I do, I don't need hi-res so I went smaller (and lighter). Anyway, always love your channel mate.
Gfx50r I think would be your better option, even over the rumored 75mp canon. Think of sensor size.
Fuji GFX is the way to go
I'd take the Pentax 645z over any Fuji any day of the week
Fuji GFX is damn nice BUT you will spend a hell of a lot more money once you account for glass. And not many lenses just yet
madmaxx72 not if one is lucky to get the 45mm, 63mm, 32-64mm glass for 1.5k USD total. 😉
I thought so too, but I was surprised to see that most of the GF lenses are in the same ballpark as good L glass from Canon-$2k. @@njrtech
Enrico Forlini I love my Pentax and have tested the Fuji witch I will buy.From my tests Fuji wins hands down.But that’s just my opinion everyone has a different view on things.
Thomas, as a Sony A7RIII shooter, here is my recommendation: from seeing how you work, you should be looking for a SYSTEM that offers you a) high resolution, b) high dynamic range, c) portability, d) durability and e) reasonable cost. Your current Canon 5dIV/Canon lens system is a middling solution: a 30 mpx sensor that has mediocre dynamic range, and is a bit clunky and heavy. EF lenses, particularly primes, are getting long in the tooth and have now been superseded by RF lenses so further development of EF lenses is questionable.
If you stay with Canon, you'll need to be patient and wait for the next shoe to drop. There may be a 5ds replacement coming with an R mount. The sensor will have high resolution, but will it have high dynamic range? The R lenses are brilliant, but can you wait years for them to be introduced and can you afford them? The R lenses are also going to be big and heavy. The 50mm F1.2 weighs 2 pounds!
If you move to Sony, you'll get a boost in resolution and dynamic range. The camera is compact, but the lenses are generally not (although they are much lighter than R mount). There are much better lenses available for Sony than in the Canon EF system although you'll have to reach deep into your pockets. With the recent firmware release, you can definitely stick with EF lenses and use a converter with no loss of function. Durability is a question mark, although I've had no issues.
If you move to Nikon, you'll need to move to the R7 because you don't want to be limited to legacy lenses. The R7 has some durability issues (weather sealing and single card slot). It is fine ergonomically and has Sony-level resolution and dynamic range. Nikon lenses, especially primes are due for a refresh, but you'll have to wait for the Z mount lenses to fill out.
Panasonic/Leica will have some interesting gear in L mount, but you'll need to be patient as their lens offerings fill out. You will need deep pockets to afford this system.
If you move to medium format (e.g. Fuji), you'll have a larger outlay for a camera with fantastic resolution and good dynamic range. The camera is probably comparable to the Sony and Nikon in terms of weather sealing. Lenses are going to be problematic. They are large, heavy and very expensive. The selection is limited.
In summary, lenses are a huge factor. I didn't hear you talk about RF lenses at all, but you should be focused on glass. If you switch to another brand, you'll need to adopt mirrorless to take advantage of new lenses that will be much better (but more expensive) than current lenses. If that was a D850 that you had blurred out, you should think twice of moving to another brand's DSLR. The lenses are orphaned. All new development will be in R-mount, e-mount, L-mount or Z-mount.
Huw Morgan
Sony fanboy?
Hahaha... lenses are the weakness in the Canon system? You’re killing me.
It's good to see the 'other side' of the goodEOS R. My main focus is on video capabilities, so it seems to be a good option there. Your points are excellent though, and worth being aware of when I go to shoot landscapes. Keep it up bud!
Perfect review you said a lot of what I feel and my experience with Canon and I've been looking through quite a lot of your videos one after the other. You have to be careful with the rumours thats what has held me back for many years I should have gone over to Nikon quite some time ago but those rumours kept me on and this R camera was a total disappointment but I've felt that some cameras ago but my love of Canon lenses kept me going. These days I have both Nikon and Canon mount lenses so I can easily go either way also the Sony is a very strong option through excellent adapters.
Tom, did I spy that blurry camera as a Nikon.... possibly the d850?? Welcome to the good side 😂 seriously though I’m looking forward to your decision. I owned a Sony for a bit, and I’d never give up the d850 for landscapes. It’s a beast! Sold the sony a7iii and now have the z6 for vlogs and timelapses, with the d850 for landscapes. Happy about the decision! Best of luck on your search!
d1kiz not sure exactly. When he picked up the blurred out camera talking about trying out different ones, that looks like a Nikon to me
Looks like a Nikon to me as well. Tom if you try the D850 just make sure to not use the 16-35. I'd recommend the 14-24, Tamron 15-30 or 17-35 instead. 16-35 was weak corners, Canon's version is clearly better. The Nikkor 70-200 f4 is amazing though.
@@d1kiz 10:54 is the timestamp
@@PereaPhotography definitely, the red thing, size and the white letters, and i would risk to say with a 24 70
@@foresterphotography6870 give a try to the new tamron 70-210 f4
Be sure to test a D850. When you do, shoot at ISO64, expose for the highlights and just bring up the shadows with Lightroom. Almost no need for graduated filters. It might change everything :-)
The D850 is obsolete. All the new glass is going to be z-mount.
@@huwmorgan51 ROFL!! That's the funniest thing I've heard all year!!
ceciliaandemilia he‘s right. It’s an amazing amazing camera which can still be used for years BUT you‘re buying into a most likely dying system
Of course, the D850 would be absolutely awesome.
@@WuschelofDespair There are no decent native Z lenses yet and you have to pay for the adaptor, which also has problems for many adopters. D850 seems a better choice right now. I've gone Sony but I was almost going for D850 or Fuji GFX, Sony just pipped it by a tiny margin based on 2nd hand pricing, IQ, eye AF. Had to compromise on sealing though. But I never put my camera on the ground when it's wet!
I love my Canon EOS R...
so do i. I have used mine for 7 months and its my favorite camera I have ever known. but to each his own.
I love mine, as well. The only bit I'm not truly happy is the lenses are chunky and heavy.
I think once we start admiring the camera we use it doesn't make sense to really care about what the specs expert say. It's a bond between the user and the machine that is unique. EOS R doesn't have killer specs but it is a gem if you know it's capabilities.
awesome video, thanks!
I think you would get on very well with the Nikon D850! It really is awesome!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You asked who this camera is for and I can answer that as an owner of one. My wife and I started our own photography business. We have been using a canon 70d that we love but we have grown enough to justify an upgrade to full frame. We were looking at the 5d IV but here in the US (before it went on sale) it was $1000 more than the EOS R and even with the sale now it is $500 more than the R. This let's us get (roughly) 5d results for quite a bit less and gives us access to the new RF lenses as well as our old EF-s lenses for video (we do both photo and video work). I've shot almost 3k images for clients in the 2 months we've had it and absolutely love it. We've shot several videos and it is incredible for that as well. The focus kills it and the c-log is so versatile with great dynamic range. I certainly get this is not for everyone, but as a canon user looking to bump up from a crop sensor to full frame I could not have asked for a better camera. We will upgrade to a pro body in a few years most likely but this was exactly what we wanted for in between. Just the right step up for us. I would not think anyone should side step from a 5d to this, as you said. The only time I would say that is if they do video. This thing is incredible for video if you know what you're doing and don't need to rely on 120fps to make your content interesting. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. I just wanted to share mine as someone who loves this camera and felt like Canon was reading my diary when they made this thing 😉 (I dont really keep a diary).
Wishing you and your family the best. Thanks for the great content!
Scott Milholland I think you’ve nailed it, Canon never promoted it as a pro camera. I also shoot with a 70D, I have had a play with the EOS-R and think it is the perfect step up into full frame. I don’t have the budget for a 5Div and all the new lenses it would require but having a full frame with the ability to use all my current EF-S, EF and L lenses flawlessly is a perfect solution. Thomas said he doesn’t know who this camera is aimed at but I think it is aimed directly at people like myself.
I am a bit puzzelt. Yes you might have expected something better, but go for 75 megapixels? Is that your desire? Will that make you photography better?
I look forward to your opinions on the latest/greatest bodies with their best lenses...particularly the Sony A7r 3/4 (strongly rumoured to be released soon)
Finally somebody that does not talk about video shit and "vlog" whatever. I love your videos! Thank you so much, this is really refreshing.
Elia Salerno True! Today cameras are reviewed on their video and portrait photography capabilities. You don’t find a lot of landscape photography reviews
Trouble is many UA-camrs get distracted into video tech because they spend a lot of time doing .. er .. videos. And we always get clowns in the comments demanding to know about the tech used for the video even when the subject is landscape or portrait stills, and there are millions of other Vlogs about video advice they could go and look at.
so what's wrong with the 5D mk IV? are you unhappy with the images? are you unhappy with the ergonomics? If not..why change? If it's not broke it does not need fixing.
Yeah i would also be interested to know. Seems pretty solid to me.
I would also like to know....
Why would he even care about ergonomics? He shoots all his images on a tripod.
My thoughts as well... and with a lot of cash invested in their glass...
I'm curious too, there's definitely a reason. I don't think it's just for the sake of upgrading/ consumerism.
You've had an 18 year relationship with Canon. I have had a 60 year relationship with Nikon (starting with a pair of original Nikon F's), so I know about brand loyalty. However, my conversion to mirrorless has been to Fujifilm .... excellent cameras and terrific lenses. I still own digital Nikons and a whole slew of Nikon glass, but increasingly this gear gets left at home when I head out on a photo shoot. More than just a rumour, there is a Fujifilm GFX 100 mp in the works that might spark your interest.
Hey Thomas, two of my all time favorite landscape photographers (Cody Cobb and Ruben Wu) are using the Fujifilm GFX50S and they print up to 48 x 64 in with good results. You should clearly consider, it's one hell of a camera.
Honestly, I value this “review” most out of any review on UA-cam. Because of the honesty. I also love to shoot landscape and learning in that area. It’s good to know that I shouldn’t choose this as my next camera, because I was thinking of it. Very nice video, I value it very much. Thank you for this!
"They failed to shake up the industry" I seem to remember the 7d mk.II to do just that =P
I was in need of an upgrade at one time, so I went with an 8 year old Nikon D700. Two and one half years on and the 12.1 MP monster still clacks away like it was new. Prints at 24x36 with no problem.
Some of my Friends now have the EOS R and love it ! I've seen photos taken of the Milky way with this camera and they look so clean at high ISO
Sincerely appreciate this honest review.
I felt much the same way about Pentax as you feel about your Canon. But, it was starting to look like they were going to be stuck in DSLR mode for a while yet, especially in their medium format, and I am no longer interested in big, heavy, noisy, complicated cameras. I wanted mirrorless, and like many others before me, I chose Sony. I started small with their NEX APS-C series, and then moved up to the A7m2. I have to say that every time I pick up a Nikon, Canon, or Pentax today, I am left wanting my Sony back immediately.
I do not know what it is, but there is just something fundamentally right for me with the Sony system. It works as I do. And they look great too. Very clean and retro-modern. Canon has not updated the style of their gear in 2 decades and it shows. They look old.
Old still works. And works in spades.
I do hope you'll be trying out all the cameras on vlog? That would be a cool series. Personally no plans to upgrade... maybe for a pro- level mirrorless in time...but enjoy your journey whichever tool you end up with!
Love your work Thomas 😁
I really want to see what you'd do with a Fujifilm GFX 50(S or R)
He had a 50S in the past, I can't remember the circumstances but I can remember the photo. I too think that would be the camera to go for.
If you were closer I'd be happy to lend you my A7Riii to shoot with. I shot Canon for years and was disappointed over and over with each new camera release. The main thing I love about the A7Riii for landscapes and as a camera in general is 42mp with no anti aliasing filter which so many people overlook but is incredibly important for landscapes to pull out all the intricate detail in an image, also the dynamic range is amazing and Sony as well as Zeiss and others make some incredibly sharp glass for it. Plus of course dual card slots and it's relatively small. The only thing I'd say took me awhile to learn was the controls and menu system, it's not intuitive at all at first but like anything else, eventually you learn your way around and it becomes an easy camera to shoot with. If I wasn't shooting Sony and had the budget I'd consider going medium format on Fuji but I'm so happy with the A7Riii I can't see changing systems again for quite awhile. There's also rumors Sony may come out with an even higher megapixel beast in the next year or two. Check out Dan Ballards video for switching to the A7Riii from a landscape photographers perspective. Cheers! ua-cam.com/video/_Bqf5biBJkQ/v-deo.html
With the new native lenses sony/zeiss/sigma and fixes they implemented from the RII to the RIII, the Sony A7riii should for sure be on his list to try.
Well said. Despite all the negative chatter about ergonomics and menus, I love that with my Sony I can adjust exposure on the fly without taking my eye from the viewfinder and see exactly what effect the change will have on the image. Can also adjust ISO and focus in the same way. The menus are completely fine once you're used to them.
Quite entertaining, Thomas! Thanks! 😊
nice shirt! :) don't be shy about trying out m43 sensor cameras. There are so many lenses out there from different companies nowadays that can compromise the negative sides of a small sensor. i think especially for you, it might be worth to take a look.
The only thing that matters is, does a different camera give you better images? If no one can tell the difference then you’ve wasted money selling all your gear and buying all new gear.
75mp would be nice... medium format would be nice to try, especially for landscapes! Good luck in your search!
I was thinking the same. Nobody will be able to tell a difference. These cameras are so similar these days, the difference will be tiny.
I think the idea that "gear doesn't matter" is only half true. Things like focus accuracy, dynamic range and sharper images, definitely does contribute to better pictures. Especially if you don't always get it right hundred percent when you take the shot. As you know from watching this channel, sometimes you only have a minute or two while the light is exactly right to take the shot. After that the shot is gone. What if the composition wasn't perfect? What if the exposure was not 100% right, and the clouds are clipping? And you can't always come back in a weeks time because plane tickets are booked, calendar entries were made. Imagine taking a wider 180 megapixel image, with insane dynamic range, and crisp sharp from edge to edge? There you have a hundred different compositions simply by cropping in, with five or six different exposures because you have insane dynamic range. An absolute dream in post. And in those specific scenarios, a better camera can be the difference between getting the image or not. Especially if you can re-adjust your composition and exposure in post. But I do agree that for most people in most scenarios, the camera will make absolutely no difference. I think it has to do with the type of images that Thomas takes. So specifically for Thomas and landscape photography, it might actually make a difference.
I think user enjoyment is a huge factor too.
Have you ever owned something and wanted to replace it 'just because'? It is super common with guitarists and guitars for example (granted you don't need to buy a new amp and pedals if you switch to another brand, like you would need new lenses but you know what I mean).
I would argue that it doesn't matter if the audience notices a difference, unless it is a dramatic difference. If he enjoys a different system more or just fancies a change, that's a good enough reason to switch. I also suspect he might switch to nikon, for basically that reason. The sonies are great, but so are the Nikons (except mirrorless af, which is still good - just not great). However, the user experience is as good as Canon - sony is pretty terrible to use and very unintuitive.
Photography is all about freezing the moment in the way you want.
If a faster and more accurate focus or anything else can help you, it can be the difference between taking the shot you want or loosing it.
The buttons, the easy to change settings and the specs matters, even though what makes a image good is a good photographer behind the camera, a good camera can help the photographer getting even better photos. Time counts
@@thestevewood but in this case none of that is relevant because Thomas doesn't have any issues with focus or dynamic range... and all of the top cameras available, including the 5DMkIV are withing ONE STOP of each other... which is pretty much irrelevant in reality. Everything you are talking about could just as easily apply to film cameras, and no one ever had discussions like this back then.
Cameras are tools, not nannies that have to watch over us and take care of our mistakes.
Hey Thomas, even though I'm a quite untalented hobbyist, I tend to disagree with your review. The EOS R is a spectacular PROSUMER camera. Many professional reviewers criticized the ergonomics, but - IMHO - once you get used to it you consider the old user interface (Canon 5d Mark iv and 1 D x Mark ii) quite obsolete. My only "critique" is the price point, way too high compared to other alternatives in the same mirrorless segment. What is truly inspiring about the new R system are the opportunities offered in the form. of new, more advanced and sophisticated lenses. I personally love the RF 1.2 50mm, and expect more new lenses to come in 2019 to work with professional R bodies. Best, Stefano
Awesome brother. Very good. I think you have to try out that Pentax K-1- mark II with the 15-30mm.
Thomas, if you want better than medium format image files from a rugged, weatherized, full frame camera - try the Pentax K-1 camera in Pixel Shift mode. You'll find that it blows away the 5D IV !!
As for the rumored 75MP Canon, good luck with that. Most photographers don't have the computers to process the giant files from such a beast. What's the sense of such huge files? How many prints larger than 24 x 36 inches do you sell anyway?
Great video Thomas, the D850 is a stunner of a camera as an all round beast - not mirrorless however the quality of the files and performance is awesome. I'm looking to mirrorless for video and keen to try the Z6, hot as an all rounder, the D850 wont be leaving my kit bag any time soon!
SO many bird photographers here in the States have gone over to the D850, and the 500 PF lens was the icing on the cake.
For what Thomas shoots, the Z7 would be the better choice, I think.
For what Thomas shoots the Pentax 645 would be a better choice than any DSLR.
I also have the D850 and got a Z6 for ardous hiking in the mountains and timelapses (compared to my D850,big tripod, 15-30, big filters the setup is more than 2kg lighter in the end) and I'm very happy. It's a great addition in my opinion. The camera so much fun, and I really appreciate the size and weight difference. Also the WiFi is directly accessible so I don't have to use the Bluetooth and Nikon SnapBridge solution. AF is not as fast but I don't care for landscapes and timelapse, perfect 2nd camera for me. Might even do most of my work with it but for sheer quality the D850 is still king of course.
@@foresterphotography6870 Im also going to grab a Z6 for my kit for the video production abilities, D850 will stay main, but as you say its a perfect lightweight hiking camera as well.
I have some suggestions: Sony A7R III, Nikon Z7. There really aren't any other 'better' options than your 5D IV. Source: I work in a camera store.
Jordan Stanhope Dean medium format bruh
Can't wait my R to arrive. Done homework and decided, R is one to go for
Spot on. Love your honesty 👍
As a landscape and timelapse photographer i would claim there's only 3 options today: Nikon D850, Nikon Z7 or Sony A7R3. All three of them vastly superior to what Canon has to offer (from a landscape photographer perspective); high megapixel and great dynamic range.
Canon's sensors are just so crap compared to the competition. Several years behind.
Oh, and get the Fujifilm X-T3 or Sony A73 for vlogging.
Landscape: Nikon D850, Nikon Z7 or Sony A7R3
Vlogs: Fujifilm X-T3 or Sony A73
Fuji doesn't quite have a good set of video lenses yet. Most of them lack IS.
Even the standard a7iii I think is a good candidate
There was and is the 5DSR. Long wondered why Thomas didn’t shoot with that one.
@@johnvr1 It's got resolution but way worse DR than Nikon and Sony, it's also Canon's older sensor so would be a step down (or at least a sidestep) compared to the 5D IV.
Omar Carrasquillo the Fuji XH1? That has built in image stabilization, right?
Thomas, you have cracking good camera in the 5D4 and you are a talented photographer who produces amazing work. Unless there is some shortfall in the 5D4 that means you are missing shots or image quality (I doubt the latter), why do you need to upgrade? i.e. what's your requirement or need? Is it just more megapixels? I'm a firm believer that it's not the gear you own but what you do with it, unless the gear is limiting your ability to get the images you want. The vlog strikes me a bit, as I need to have something new and shiny? No disrespect intended, I'd just love to know how the 5D4 is 'limiting you'? Be honest...
Reasons why the 5D Mark IV doesn't cut it anymore wasn't explained in the video, maybe Thomas will bring it up in the next video.
He wanted something better
I mean Thomas reasons are all in the video. Interesting that all the Canon fans know everything better than him, a full time landscape photographer. /s
Also I get the feeling (and I felt the same) that Thomas is disappointed and fed up with Canon's policy of holding back features and quality to sell their other camera lines (e.g. 1D and Cinema). Because let's be honest of course the Canon takes great photos we can all see that. But why pay MORE for a body that is clearly behind for image quality, features, ergonomics, weather sealing when you can get better, often cheaper cameras by other manufacturers? At some point, why give a company your money when they are screwing you over on purpose? Canon can definitely build better cameras - they have the technology, they just don't want to. They're holding back (their low point were the 6D and 6D II ). I'm sorry but giving them your moeny over and over again for batteries, lenses, accessoires and every now and then a camera at some point is just stupid if you want them to react.
Not talking about you, but I get a Stockholm syndrome vibe from some Canon fanboys, always overpaying and hoping it will get better. Then arguing "but it takes great pictures!" well of course it does, cameras 10 years old can take great photos but why would you support the company that is screwing you again and again. The logical choice is to switch. Let's say you like the iPhone but it got more and more expensive and you feel like other phones are cheaper and offer the same or maybe more. Would you keep going for the iPhone at $1499 or maybe switch to a OnePlus 6T that is almost a third of the price offering the same or better quality? Personally I'd rather support a company that puts everything in their cameras and is inventive and tries out new things. And I see that with Nikon, Sony, Fuji for sure. So even if the image quality of the 5DIV was the same as the other top cameras (and it's not) I'd feel betrayed at some point if they charge more for less features and innovation.
I totally agree Pete and the question is always: Will it help me take better photographs when I already have a sate of the art camera?
Forester Photography I see you can write a lot of words. Well done. Maybe you can make some actual points next time.
We (landscape photographers) need more honest reviews like yours. I have NO interest in the video capabilities, and I'm so tired of "photography" sites spending 75% of the review talking about the video. I don't give a s***t. Does it take a good photo? Does it have features to help me improve my photography? Is it a step up or down from my current camera? That's what I want to know.
Love the b-roll at beginning, but i don't understand why change...
Don't you have the 5D4 as your daily driver? Why switching the entire brand, what's wrong with 5D4?
I'm not really sure why you'd really consider any camera as an upgrade to another recent camera. It doesn't seem to me like they change THAT much.
The EOS R was above my price range, but otherwise I'd have considered it as an upgrade, but my current upgrade is over a decade old. Sure, I do care about WHICH recent camera to get, but ultimately any of them are going to be upgrade and I'm more concerned with which is the best fit for me and not whether a manfacturer dared to release two cameras within a year or so where one isn't a complete revolution on top of the other.
I ended up getting a 6D Mark 2 for $950. My original plan was going to be an M50 but I just couldn't turn down the sale.
On a side note, so many reviews are unhelpful. At least this one was somewhat practical but so many focus on features I'll never use. Or they compare completely different vendors and I'm not about to toss all the stuff I have just because this year one manufacturer came out with a slightly better model. Canon would have to turn out flop after flop for years before I'd switch brands. Same would be true if I had gone with Nikon. I looked at the others but it seems like the selection of accessories is much weaker. Does Fujifilm even make a TTL flash?
Your Newcastle United = my New York Mets. Once in a while, they tease you with a championship run. The rest of the time, they diddle around in mediocrity and disappoint their loyal fanbase. Canon is much the same. I was just as sure as you that Canon would blow everyone's doors off. Thankfully I have a 5DM4 (which now sells for $500 less than I paid 😑) and I'll be keeping it until they do mirrorless right.
I saw that rumor too. You don't have as many lenses as some, but I'm sure you don't want to give up those Ls you have. Sony probably has best adaptability. Me, I will live in hope for a real Canon breakthrough.
Right there with you, in my case, Toronto Maple Leafs. They keep teasing, even making the playoffs sometimes, however they haven't won the Stanley Cup since 1967.
I totally understand the reluctance to get "technical" Thomas, but you always bring sincerity and sensitivity to the table - sprinkled around your brilliant sense of humor of course - and this is one of the funniest videos you've posted. All of that aside, you really nail the issue. As a former Canon shooter, I too remember the magical days when the 5Dmkii hit the market. It WAS a revolution. And while I haven't shot with the R, I too hoped Canon was bringing back the magic. I love my current rig, but I WILL say it's hard to re-kindle that intimate relationship I once had with my 5dmkii... or even my 5dmkiii. I'm not that sensitive, but oh how I still miss their sensors.
maybe you should try a 4x5 veiw camera.. might get excited about something old
Worth looking at the Pentax K1ii 😉
BINGO. Exactly.
@@itsacookie1 market dog but hidden feature packed gem in the rough that has a much more easier user interface that Canon 😂
@@itsacookie1 - Insult to who? What?
@@WelshPhotographer Tony Northrup called it the best landscape camera available and his analysis is solid.
Sony A7rIII, Nikon D850 or Fuji GFX 50s. those are the top landscape photography cameras of today. Pricewise, Fuji is twice the price so I'd go for D850 or Sony. Either or.
Sebastien Le Calvez 50r is same price as the d850
@@cxlosdc333 its not.. he is correct I just made a comparison. The lenses are super expensive and you can mostly only get primes. GFX aren't ready yet lens vise.
nah, you do not move from canon to nikon
@@AndreasLarzon as an MF system it has a decent set of lenses. MF doesn't have many lenses because it has a more specialised role.
@@petrub27 Why not?
Honest review. Similar experience. 🙏
Hi Thomas, two comments that you already have in mind I guess:
1) Better wait for the release of Panasonic S1R, April or later. They are usually good at producing clever bodies.
2) Think about the lenses. Nikon Z + 14-30 f/4 + 24-70 f/4 + 70-200 f/4 with ring = winning combo. If you choose other brand than Canikon, how much time will you have to wait for good glass? Or would you sell your shirt to get Leica L-mount?
Landscapes, tripod, no autofocus, no evf, no ovf, no video. You definitely need a new camera.
A sony))
@@YARvisuals whatever he chooses the pictures will remain the same... :D
the tea
I guess the Alpa camera is the answer 😂 You even cock the shutter (in the lens) every time you want to take a shot.
I've been a Canon shooter since I took up photography (which honestly wasn't very long ago at all - I'm very new to this). Today I actually ordered a Nikon D850 with three great lenses. I have a feeling that it will be absolutely amazing for landscape work... Great ergonomics, built like a tank, and insane detail and immense dynamic range. But I still wanted something that would work as an allround camera as well. If you're going to shoot only landscapes, nothing else, it might be worth looking at a Fuji GFX 50S or 50R. Or even the upcoming 100S. But I think the advantages of the 50S/50R compared to the cost (of the lenses in particular) don't really warrant buying it over a D850 or A7RIII. No, the D850 is my beast. I'm a bit hesitant to buy such an expensive DSLR now seeing that mirrorless is doubtlessly the future, but I think I'll be very happy with it for at least 3-5 years.
I'm really looking forward to seeing your impressions of different cameras ahead. I really think the ones you should be trying are Nikon D850, Sony A7RIII, Fuji GFX 50S, and Pentax K1 Mark II. At the very least. If Canon do release a new flagship, I hope they don't focus only on insane resolution, but also improve their dynamic range *a lot*, because they're lagging behind. But for you, who already own a lot of good Canon glass, it would make sense to buy a camera like that.
Danni, I like your landscape camera list. I'd also add the Pentax 645Z to the mix. For landscapes, medium format glass is spectacular. The pictures on the wall look like 3:4 format rather than 2:3, so that's another one for 645. For the price, the K1ii is impossible to beat (for landscapes). Unless you have a heap of Canon L lenses of course. Thomas, you should rent a 645Z!
Great video Thomas. Hopefully someone at Canon took some notes and made some calls. They have been dragging their innovative feet for a long time now. On the other hand, the "promising" feature about the EOSR (something you didn't mention) is the R mount and the possibilities with the bigger opening. Evidently the 28-70 is super sharp and Canon is supposedly going to release a new wide angle for the R mount. Only time will tell. Keep the great videos coming!
The problem here, that I also have is the amazing quality of the L glass. If I didn't invest so much on it, I've already switched my 5dIV for another camera brand. Will wait for your next thoughts, Thomas.
I wonder what would Ansel Adams say about this EOS-R camera.
Sonny, I think Ansel Adams would be ecstatic about cameras that had 15 stops of dynamic range, sharp lenses with extremely low flare, and above all Photoshop. The ability to have selection masks that one could paint on using a digital paintbrush would have saved him immense amounts of time in post processing. I’ll bet he would be extremely skeptical that a squinchy little 24x36mm sensor could produce a sharp image, so he would go immediately to medium format. I suspect that he would eventually realize that full-frame sensors really were more than enough. He would then gravitate to a D850 so he could take even more audacious hikes to good vantage points.
I would have a look and goes out shooting with his new Fujifilm GFX 50R😊
He would have a medium format digital camera, Phase One probably.
I've just bought mine, pretty happy with it... I think...
I love mine! I use it for Vlogging and light painting and it's a super solid purchase in my mind. I don't need 50MP, and IBIS is moot since I use a gimbal. For most things that matter, Canon is still the top seller for a reason. They make great equipment!!
@@zacharysmidt4966 Hi, Yes I agree, I think it all boils down to how you are going to use it... Though I am 'stepping up' from the 5D Mkiii but I agree with Thomas, I wanted to be blown away! That's not completely happened...
I feel you. I've switched to SONY A7R3. very impressed, probably the best professional camera together with the d850.
I went from a 5D mk 3 to a 5DSR. Best decision I've ever made. I'd suggest you give it a try for a weekend. I also went from Canon lenses to Sigma 3/4 years ago, esp the ART prime range. Have the 20mm, 35mm, 50mm and 85mm ARTs. Second best decision I've made. Third best decision I hope to make is get the Sigma 120-300mm f2.8. Covers (nearly) all bases.