The extra mode makes everything before it feel like a cakewalk, my God. Literally took me all day just to get through a handful of levels. The top-tier music loop helps me stay sane, at least. Plus, it's the first time I've ever seen the game over cut scene thing that plays if you die too many times in a short period of time. Fortunately, you can also cancel it by button mashing, lol
@@DenpaCake yup - die too often, don't do anything to continue, and Gray will have a final death that persists through to the "English | Suomi" screen.
@@DenpaCake I refused to find out, but I'd imagine it's as MrSmegheneghan said and that it's basically a way to prevent you from getting soft-locked if you find yourself in an area that's too difficult while Voided.
@@Wackylemon64 Some of the levels in extra are really difficult, so having a way to leave the mode while you're in the middle of the levels and can't reach a Cif statue makes sense, I think.
i finally figured out how to rip the tracks for myself, and i have to say: the trick the devs used to obsfucate the tracks got me *good*. i only realized something was up after accidentally letting one of the tracks play out for a few minutes after I thought it was done.
@@qwaffles_ I guess it's fine to spoil now, since anyone who would've tried it themselves would've done it already and everyone else is just waiting for the official release. So, there were 2 nondescriptively named sound files when opening up the game files: msc_looptest and msc_test2. Playing them would yield this goofy little jingle : ua-cam.com/video/RYFbcBSygmg/v-deo.html The tool I used to look through the files had a very simple sound player, which is what I was using to look through each file one by one because all of the filenames didn't match their OST titles - it was all stuff like DIS' theme being just "endless.wav". most importantly, it didn't show current time in the track or track length at all. So, I would be looking through the files, passing by looptest and test2 and clicking away after a few seconds assuming they were either testfiles or a joke from the developers to people looking through the files like me. And then I would hit the end of the list, and be confused all over again because there's no way the EX theme just isn't here - these are *all* the music files, and there's no way would name it under the sounds just to fool the few dataminers like me... And then, by chance, EX started playing after I left the datamine tool to sit for a bit. I was so confused! , and I was looking through volume mixer to confirm the audio source and that I didn't just accidentally play the youtube video again. It wasn't until I decided to just export all of the music files that I noticed a discrepancy : msc_looptest and msc_test2 were 9 minute long tracks. I opened them in VLC, clicked at a spot somewhere 6 minutes in the file, and yup. They created this goofy 30 second long hardstyle jingle, set it at the start of a 9 minute long audio file, left 4 minutes of silence, then put in the real tracks at 5 minutes in. If dogbonk ua-cam.com/video/IDorig57r8k/v-deo.html releases with DELTARUNE chapters 3 & 4, be sure to check that it really is just a 30 second long wav file and that it isn't hiding Toby's next magnum opus... (also, I haven't found the track for layers 2 or 4 yet, so... system erasure may still have won one over on me.)
@@qwaffles_There used to be four songs in the game files since release, named msc_sendoff, msc_test2, msc_looptest and msc_ending2 All of them were just a silly short 8-bit loop. But with the 1.1 update, after that short 8-bit song ends in the music files, each of those files contains a few minutes of silence followed by the new songs of this update. So they were likely hidden with data miners in mind.
Zeroranger actually has something like that in the files too, makes me wonder if those are also the same method of hiding songs for the upcoming black onion game mode How sneaky...
@@RedMser oh, I wrote a whole detailed reply that i only today noticed never sent, probably because I included links to the silly little placeholder jingles. that's a shame, but i am very thankful for you pointing out the last 2 tracks I was missing - before, I only knew looptest and test2 since internally i found that the EX rooms were also labeled with "test2". which, also added to the massive dunk the devs got on me, with how i kept overlooking msc_test2 until i finally exported all the music tracks and noticed discrepancies with the lengths of the audio files. i guess i'll reiterate my end note, then : if deltarune chapter 3 & 4 release and dogbonk.ogg appears in the game files, you may want to wait and see if it's secretly hiding toby fox's newest magnum opus
Thank you for this, truly. I'm just vibing out in 4 different layers of the same music edit: I've also noticed why the leitmotif sounds familiar. In the 4th layer, it has the faint sound of the ambient sounds you hear when you have the cube
Hey. Could I ask where you got the animation of Gray in the footage from? I think it could make for a pretty cool animated wallpaper since it loops well.
The moment I reached the second section and heard 🎸 I popped right off, like "oh Yes this is good stuff" As well, how did you get this title screen? I'm guessing it's gameplay cause of the bit at the end...
glad they kept the piano peaking the audio
It takes a peak game to peak the audio like that 😩😩😩🙏🙏🙏
The extra mode makes everything before it feel like a cakewalk, my God. Literally took me all day just to get through a handful of levels. The top-tier music loop helps me stay sane, at least. Plus, it's the first time I've ever seen the game over cut scene thing that plays if you die too many times in a short period of time. Fortunately, you can also cancel it by button mashing, lol
Wait, cancel? Something happens if you just leave it on screen?
@@DenpaCake yup - die too often, don't do anything to continue, and Gray will have a final death that persists through to the "English | Suomi" screen.
@@DenpaCake I refused to find out, but I'd imagine it's as MrSmegheneghan said and that it's basically a way to prevent you from getting soft-locked if you find yourself in an area that's too difficult while Voided.
@@aiasfree I've found it doesn't trigger if you're the third stranger - did the devs figure you didn't need the out anymore if you were at that point?
@@Wackylemon64 Some of the levels in extra are really difficult, so having a way to leave the mode while you're in the middle of the levels and can't reach a Cif statue makes sense, I think.
i finally figured out how to rip the tracks for myself, and i have to say: the trick the devs used to obsfucate the tracks got me *good*. i only realized something was up after accidentally letting one of the tracks play out for a few minutes after I thought it was done.
what happened?
@@qwaffles_ I guess it's fine to spoil now, since anyone who would've tried it themselves would've done it already and everyone else is just waiting for the official release. So, there were 2 nondescriptively named sound files when opening up the game files: msc_looptest and msc_test2. Playing them would yield this goofy little jingle : ua-cam.com/video/RYFbcBSygmg/v-deo.html
The tool I used to look through the files had a very simple sound player, which is what I was using to look through each file one by one because all of the filenames didn't match their OST titles - it was all stuff like DIS' theme being just "endless.wav". most importantly, it didn't show current time in the track or track length at all. So, I would be looking through the files, passing by looptest and test2 and clicking away after a few seconds assuming they were either testfiles or a joke from the developers to people looking through the files like me. And then I would hit the end of the list, and be confused all over again because there's no way the EX theme just isn't here - these are *all* the music files, and there's no way would name it under the sounds just to fool the few dataminers like me...
And then, by chance, EX started playing after I left the datamine tool to sit for a bit. I was so confused! , and I was looking through volume mixer to confirm the audio source and that I didn't just accidentally play the youtube video again. It wasn't until I decided to just export all of the music files that I noticed a discrepancy : msc_looptest and msc_test2 were 9 minute long tracks. I opened them in VLC, clicked at a spot somewhere 6 minutes in the file, and yup.
They created this goofy 30 second long hardstyle jingle, set it at the start of a 9 minute long audio file, left 4 minutes of silence, then put in the real tracks at 5 minutes in. If dogbonk ua-cam.com/video/IDorig57r8k/v-deo.html releases with DELTARUNE chapters 3 & 4, be sure to check that it really is just a 30 second long wav file and that it isn't hiding Toby's next magnum opus...
(also, I haven't found the track for layers 2 or 4 yet, so... system erasure may still have won one over on me.)
@@qwaffles_There used to be four songs in the game files since release, named msc_sendoff, msc_test2, msc_looptest and msc_ending2
All of them were just a silly short 8-bit loop. But with the 1.1 update, after that short 8-bit song ends in the music files, each of those files contains a few minutes of silence followed by the new songs of this update. So they were likely hidden with data miners in mind.
Zeroranger actually has something like that in the files too, makes me wonder if those are also the same method of hiding songs for the upcoming black onion game mode
How sneaky...
@@RedMser oh, I wrote a whole detailed reply that i only today noticed never sent, probably because I included links to the silly little placeholder jingles. that's a shame, but i am very thankful for you pointing out the last 2 tracks I was missing - before, I only knew looptest and test2 since internally i found that the EX rooms were also labeled with "test2". which, also added to the massive dunk the devs got on me, with how i kept overlooking msc_test2 until i finally exported all the music tracks and noticed discrepancies with the lengths of the audio files.
i guess i'll reiterate my end note, then : if deltarune chapter 3 & 4 release and dogbonk.ogg appears in the game files, you may want to wait and see if it's secretly hiding toby fox's newest magnum opus
Finished everything last night including that fun "impossible" thing. Super cool update and thanks for the upload that told me it existed
Probably the best song in the game ngl
How does SE do it...
how are they capable of making music that, despite literally never hearing it before, gives such a huge feeling of nostalgia
This entire game is still way ahead of its time
i will likely never get past the first layer of this ex shit so thanks for lettin me hear the secret songs anyhow
I love how this whole song feels like it could fit in a jazzy Cafe shop.
Doing the "out of bounds" level ending during EX mode where you punch the weird thing in the black void here actually supports this
Thank you for this, truly.
I'm just vibing out in 4 different layers of the same music
edit: I've also noticed why the leitmotif sounds familiar. In the 4th layer, it has the faint sound of the ambient sounds you hear when you have the cube
Wait can you not hear the ambience without the cube??? I mean that makes absolutely perfect sense but wow holy shit
thanks for the upload
Hey. Could I ask where you got the animation of Gray in the footage from? I think it could make for a pretty cool animated wallpaper since it loops well.
Copied from another comment: I edited the game's code to show this screen on startup, then just recorded it for a while.
after finishing the mode it makes sense that this song reminds me of the theme of a certain lord…
The moment I reached the second section and heard 🎸 I popped right off, like "oh Yes this is good stuff"
As well, how did you get this title screen? I'm guessing it's gameplay cause of the bit at the end...
Second section is my favorite as well!
I edited the game's code to show this screen on startup, then just recorded it for a while.
@@RedMser ahh, fair enough. I figured maybe you could get that with one of the endings, given the [REDACTED] scene, but that makes sense 😅
Unpopular opinion - first layer is the best
is it weird if i prefer this on 1.25x.