Fun fact: sex offenders are not given life in jail. They usually get less than 10yrs. They are supposed to register their information but a lot of them become homeless and are unable to found or identified. The reoffense percentage is around %60
What an good interview about real life issues. Also idk why people became so soft to say stuff with straight face. Hes simply Pedo see it wasnt that hard Tom.
It's a massive problem over here, really, pedophiles and active predators getting let off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. Absolutely embarrasing.
It’s because the ones in charge are sympathetic to these people even the UN has “mistakenly” released a document saying the age should be lowered to 14
@@maninthemask6275 i don't really think they mean the overall age of consent but the way germany does it with 14 and a "close-in-age-exception" where 14 and up to 21 (which the majority of people even there thinks is too high) is legal and 16 is the overall age of consent plus some extra bylaws to be harsher when abuse happens to under 18 year olds.
I think it's because it's treated too similarly to other kinds of violence. Comparing stats between various EU countries and the US, their justice systems are better for keeping murder and violent crime rates down. However, sexual violence is a different beast. Violence can have many factors that once dealt with, can allow a person to be let back into society without them reoffending. But we currently have no way of fixing a person who wants to abuse children, so you just can't do that with this sort of crime.
If Tom has 1000 haters, I'm one of them If Tom has 10 haters, I'm one of them. If Tom has 1 hater, it's me. If Tom has no haters, them I am dead. If the world loves Tom, I am against the world. If Tom floats towards hot pie, I freeze that pie.
Tom don't even know about the Sykes Pico agreement, Palestine being occupied British Mandate, and a certain group acquiring the land from the Brits using the exact tactics they decry today.
What are you talking about? The Ottoman Empire is still at War with the Lazy Boy Recliner to this very day. Many a foot has found itself in the middle of this war.
@@sororxcide Yeah but his channel usually gets taken down after like 4 days rn his channel has been up for 3 months and considering a whole back UA-cam themselves were copyright striking anyone who was making videos about EDP because they viewed it as “harassment” when everyone and their mom knows he is a lost cause and shouldn’t have a platform.
He hasn’t changed - he used to go into VC with his fans and use them for free therapy, dumping his issues on them - and here he is doing it again, only to someone else’s community.
lot of people don't understand that if the age of consent is 14, it means with other 14 year olds, not a 14 and let's say 30 year old that's not what that means
@Venator_X1 stop being obtuse like my god yk what the nigga is saying, this is just how some people cope with the shit show that is "age of consent" cause this pedophile shit is getting annoying frankly. Reasonable age gap before 18 is all he's saying my fucking god
One reason sentences aren’t harsher is the fear these freaks will be more likely to unalive their victims to eliminate the witness. Twisted logic but these people are twisted.
Another factor to consider is the bar of evidence, and the likeliness of a crime being faked or pinned on somebody. For example, while murder and r-pe are considered highly deplorable, some areas will only have capital punishment for one and not the other. This is because a r-pe can be faked under some circumstances. You may be able to prove that the s-x occurred (e.g., DNA evidence), but you may be unable to definitively prove that said s-x was non-consensual. People have even faked or falsely attributed injuries to their alleged attacker in such cases. Meanwhile, while you can be wrong about who the murderer is, you can at least confirm that a death happened, assuming you have an actual body. I'm not saying this line of thinking is always a factor, but it's something to be considered when it comes to harsher sentences or the full-on death penalty. It's not just "does this crime deserve it?", but also "what are the chances of this crime being faked or falsely blamed on someone else?"
He did, I heard the M sound so dw. If you don't fully listen, it'll sound bad but if you listen carefully, you'll hear the slight maker sound maker makes
Not sure if anyone’s gonna read this but, he actually had an instagram account (now since deleted/banned) and he has lost a lot of weight. He also was working on a horse farm or a farm of some sort. Got to chat with him through live (by which I mean he read my comments). This was idk how long ago. Just wish he never did such nasty things man, he was one of my favorites but he’s a creep all in all.
Lionmaker is like Jon Venables; he always tells people the truth about what he did, then gets shocked and surprised when those people are horrified and turn their backs to him.
I absolutely love the Colossal Is Crazy clip 2:14 🤣🤣🤣🤣 The original Colossal Is Crazy lionmaker video is an absolute classic and brings me such nostalgia
Fun Fact about Irish Consent laws: Originally there were seperate laws for hetero and homosexual consent, 16 and 17 respectively. It was later updated when people cried discrimination, instead of lowering the age for homosexual consent they uped the age for hetero to match. Ireland also has a Major to minor exclusion clause. 17-19 is considered legal but 20+ is relegated to 18 as the defacto age of consent. This, or similar, is the case across most of Europe. That, age of consent is 14 in France defense, is BS.
Its crazy that, when tested, the mortar holding the bricks together in the chimneys connected to the ovens at the "summer camps" bacj in 1940 came from a specific masonry company that wasnt formed until two years after the war ended!
One of the biggest gripes i have when people cover this story is the interview with keemstar and paiges mother. They often make fun of the mom is how she talks, likes shes drunk and on drugs but its very clear that English is NOT her first language she even pauses and states that often saying things like "oh how god how do i say this english" i just think its a little unfair and i wish more people were kinder to her. Absolutely no fault to Tom, love him
I have no idea why, but I had it stuck in my mind that LionMaker had died. Also, some Belgians are absolutely nuts. The biggest PDF file case in Europe was a Belgian as well.
i feel so bad for paige. she was abused, humiliated, had a terrible family, and left the internet with her previous aliases. i hope she’s doing alright
One thing about internet anonymity: If we did break it, these "people" would just move to other platforms that give it, and in the end those people who actually need that anonymity suffer (insert things said on TailsOS's website). But with how it is now, we can always rely on them being stupid enough to snitch on themselves (like what you said at 16:05)! Though those who know better "OPSEC" are probably in a country who lets them get a way with it, so we wouldn't even have a change to affect them if we broke their anonymity :/
I generally try to stick with "you do the time, you paid for the crime." The problem is that statistically speaking, these people are repeat offenders (upwards of 70%). So it's hard to come in and say "give him a 2nd chance" without acknowledging the sad reality of repeat offenders.
Isn't there resounding evidence that "maturity" starts at 21? Perhaps laws need to catch up, and actually protect children, like how we expect them to. It just seems these predators are obsessed with property and breeding. Super gross, imho.
You and everyone are comparing your moustache to Shitler-but it’s really only the one side of your late teen-stache (camera left… and I guess mirror-vision left as well) that’s sporting anything close to it… and it really is less ‘Shitler’, and more ‘Shitler with colour conversion switched on’… and that’s about as deep as that joke goes. Just keep trimming that one side until the other one grows in to match it. Don’t just trim that side to match the shorter one or you might start Bizarro World War 3.
If tom and Hitler kissed their mustaches would connect like lego peices
Like man fur mustache and teenage pushbroom mustache Velcro.
Nah, Tom's moustache has a gap in it
Hot
???
That's the point.@@Heretican
@@Heretican Thats the point....
Fun fact: sex offenders are not given life in jail. They usually get less than 10yrs. They are supposed to register their information but a lot of them become homeless and are unable to found or identified. The reoffense percentage is around %60
In my state, ppl who get caught with drugs definitely do more time than chomo's... it's baffling!
I think the thinking is other inmates will... "remove" the problem. If possible.
thats a not very fun fact :(
@@patrickblakethesaint??? No one legislates like that
@@filipsichrovsky if you are a pdf in prison and an inmate finds out, you’re done for.
Original title:"he's back and he's ready to goon"
That works for edp and onision as well! (Soon to also include master beast)
@@patrickblakethesainta psychic
If i saw that title i would assume i was being stalked
*ready to groom
Colossal's voice saying "Paige the Panda's Asshole on Twittah" is stuck in my head every since the interview
Colossal Is Crazy - Lionmaker Interview - "8 years ago"
Time flies.
Nostalgia (for simpler times)
What an good interview about real life issues. Also idk why people became so soft to say stuff with straight face. Hes simply Pedo see it wasnt that hard Tom.
@@KL53986 monetization and guidelines
@@KL53986 Guidelines
What happened to collosal i never watched him much i jist saw a few of the big videos
@@Epck He's just been doing his own thing, but he hasn't made any videos himself
Your facial hair is the exact opposite of that controversial painter, the only place your missing hair is the only place he had it 😂
all he has to do now is go bald
Thats... the joke
Rofl 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🎉🎉🎉
Your facial hair matches my son's. He's 6.
why does your 6 year old have facial hair
Your son is hitler?
@@HenryGreenEngine3he might be italian
@@modernprophet5942 or Middle Eastern
@@HenryGreenEngine3he's probably German
Why does Tom look like a disabled Markiplier
thanks for the new username
"Hello everybody my name is Tomdark"
Don’t compare my glorious king to Tom
@@jhonnatannoriega5445 wym they're both gorgeous kings
@@Cherry-ty3nb true
It's a massive problem over here, really, pedophiles and active predators getting let off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. Absolutely embarrasing.
it's a real problem anywhere really. you get harsher punishments for damaging a large business than you get for graping
It’s because the ones in charge are sympathetic to these people even the UN has “mistakenly” released a document saying the age should be lowered to 14
@@maninthemask6275 i don't really think they mean the overall age of consent but the way germany does it with 14 and a "close-in-age-exception" where 14 and up to 21 (which the majority of people even there thinks is too high) is legal and 16 is the overall age of consent plus some extra bylaws to be harsher when abuse happens to under 18 year olds.
I think it's because it's treated too similarly to other kinds of violence. Comparing stats between various EU countries and the US, their justice systems are better for keeping murder and violent crime rates down.
However, sexual violence is a different beast. Violence can have many factors that once dealt with, can allow a person to be let back into society without them reoffending. But we currently have no way of fixing a person who wants to abuse children, so you just can't do that with this sort of crime.
@@CozyNevada you guys need a Stephen Marshall over there. damn.
Lionmaker: from groomer to gooner.
If Tom has 1000 haters, I'm one of them
If Tom has 10 haters, I'm one of them.
If Tom has 1 hater, it's me.
If Tom has no haters, them I am dead.
If the world loves Tom, I am against the world.
If Tom floats towards hot pie, I freeze that pie.
This is what I’m saying
K. Thx for that.
Based.
Tom is the type to cartoonishly float towards the scent of a hot pie
I volunteered at the local goodwill and found a miniladd youtooz in a donation bin.
There isn't a lionmaker youtooz,maybe its a knock off brand?
@DusicaPetrovic-gh2dh I was getting him confused with another predator, I checked the photo I took and The youtooz was of "Miniladd"
Tom the type of guy to not know that the Ottoman Empire fell by the end of The First World War.
Tom don't even know about the Sykes Pico agreement, Palestine being occupied British Mandate, and a certain group acquiring the land from the Brits using the exact tactics they decry today.
Meh still existed until 1922
@@AdolphusHitlerus
When Nikolaus says youre "The ill man of europe" 😢
But your empire last 5 years longer than his 👍🏻
What are you talking about? The Ottoman Empire is still at War with the Lazy Boy Recliner to this very day. Many a foot has found itself in the middle of this war.
@@justinlast2lastharder749underrated comment right here 😂
Lionmaker the OG Minecraft groomer.
Like nogla said!
It's his fault that this Minecraft Grooming shit happened in the first place
What’s scary is he could make a come back to UA-cam considering EDP has had a channel for the last few weeks and hasn’t gotten banned yet.
he tries to come back every single week dude, never works, itll get taken down one way or another and hell just try again
EDP. Ironically was just caught again.
As long as he doesn't do the disgusting shit that got him de-platformed in the first place, he'll be fine
right, very scary. i'm sure EDP is enjoying a warm welcome
@@sororxcide Yeah but his channel usually gets taken down after like 4 days rn his channel has been up for 3 months and considering a whole back UA-cam themselves were copyright striking anyone who was making videos about EDP because they viewed it as “harassment” when everyone and their mom knows he is a lost cause and shouldn’t have a platform.
i cant believe tom was the bay harbour painter
Haha another cultured person
cant believe his editor was the bay harbour shit smearer all along
Hello, Dexter Morgan.
@@animeking875I wonder if Rita is looking at the same moon
I'm enjoying the growing collection of chairs behind Tom in these
You can't trust a man that can't grow a beard.
You look like Bobby Lee
I actually see the resemblance
I see it
Turkey tom is the funny Bobby Lee confirmed
@@OpoOnTheGo
If only I could paste the Daaaaaam meme from friday
Tommy lee
I can confidently say this was not on my 2024 bingo card
0:16 Anne Frankly?
Anne Frankly he’s “gay”.
No, use it correctly. Don’t shoehorn a good pun where it doesn’t fit.
everyone has a different perspective, you think it’s not used correctly but others will find the pun correctly used. It’s as shrimple as that.
@@_..-.._..-.._ soundin like a real grammar Nazi... 😳 wait!
This joke was Reich up my alley
He hasn’t changed - he used to go into VC with his fans and use them for free therapy, dumping his issues on them - and here he is doing it again, only to someone else’s community.
I guess, because what are they really going to tell him?
@@gmusic7268I’m surprised they didn’t go hard on him
It’s not all the Minecraft UA-camrs but it’s always the Minecraft UA-camrs
"UA-cam's Biggest Predator Just Came Back"
*Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down*
Death penalty, but the kind of death penalty that is carried out suddenly, without warning, with a claw hammer.
Feet first into a wood chipper? Would that be suitable?
@@mollymolly8882 bring back the brazen bull
Title in my notification box "UA-cam's Biggest Predator Just Came ..."
lot of people don't understand that if the age of consent is 14, it means with other 14 year olds, not a 14 and let's say 30 year old that's not what that means
So a 19yr old and a 18yr old can’t be together?
@@Venator_X1 he just doesn't know what he's talking about
@@Venator_X1well to be fair the age of consent in the US is much different
@Venator_X1 stop being obtuse like my god yk what the nigga is saying, this is just how some people cope with the shit show that is "age of consent" cause this pedophile shit is getting annoying frankly. Reasonable age gap before 18 is all he's saying my fucking god
@@lukecodz that’s fair but like where would this apply
Why is it every internet drama all goes back to Keemstar?
Dramalert
Because Keem is scum
Bro' show is called "Dramalert" lmao
Because dude made a bandonkers amount of money talking about each and every single one of them
on top hes good for some drama himself
The longer I watch the more confused I am by the mustache
Exactly
Lionmaker is on the prowl looking for a cub
"How many times do we have to tell you this, old man?!"
- guy from SpongeBob
LIONMAKER???? IN 2024??we're cooked
Tom having the anti-hitler moustache
Bro saw that EDP was back and decided to give it a try
The urge to take a brow pencil to Toms leftside stache is driving me wild. It's very noticeable, my good boy. Have Brody help you out, PLEASE!!!
One reason sentences aren’t harsher is the fear these freaks will be more likely to unalive their victims to eliminate the witness. Twisted logic but these people are twisted.
Another factor to consider is the bar of evidence, and the likeliness of a crime being faked or pinned on somebody.
For example, while murder and r-pe are considered highly deplorable, some areas will only have capital punishment for one and not the other. This is because a r-pe can be faked under some circumstances. You may be able to prove that the s-x occurred (e.g., DNA evidence), but you may be unable to definitively prove that said s-x was non-consensual. People have even faked or falsely attributed injuries to their alleged attacker in such cases. Meanwhile, while you can be wrong about who the murderer is, you can at least confirm that a death happened, assuming you have an actual body.
I'm not saying this line of thinking is always a factor, but it's something to be considered when it comes to harsher sentences or the full-on death penalty. It's not just "does this crime deserve it?", but also "what are the chances of this crime being faked or falsely blamed on someone else?"
The "I'm actually gay" bit needs to be meme'd omg
Definitely
Incredibly hard watch, thanks Tom.
Me too!… oh you meant difficult
bro the mustache is diabolical
The dear friend thing is hysterical, I love that video 3:50 he’s such a terrible person, but good god that’s funny
This guy was just like EDP, just keeps coming back. 😂😂
4:29 bro did not say lion maker💀💀
Yeah, that did not sound like he said LionMaker
H-he wouldn't really s-say that r-r-right?!?⁉️⁉️😟😟☹️☹️☹️☹️
Oh no Dim Thomas!
He did, I heard the M sound so dw. If you don't fully listen, it'll sound bad but if you listen carefully, you'll hear the slight maker sound maker makes
Lionmaker done escaped from the zoo
Can’t believe I unironically watched him as a kid until I found out
I thought Lionmaker was dead.
I did too, I'm glad I'm not the only one.
That's Bashuverse
@@makosimp5022 in the ending of Tom's video,it says he died from cancer. Online it even said he died.
God I wish
rent was due
At the very least, Belgium should have revoked his ability to use the internet.
Not sure if anyone’s gonna read this but, he actually had an instagram account (now since deleted/banned) and he has lost a lot of weight. He also was working on a horse farm or a farm of some sort. Got to chat with him through live (by which I mean he read my comments). This was idk how long ago. Just wish he never did such nasty things man, he was one of my favorites but he’s a creep all in all.
Tom pulling the reverse Hitler was not on my 2024 bingo card
Bro got the Charlie Chaplin stash.
I mean he saw how Kris Tyson literally got away with it so he thought to himself "Hey maybe I can also come back"
Bro is your mustache thinning? The thinning real? Chat? Real.
Are your bells clapping Tom? Bing bong bing bong
14:10 Tom, the government doesnt hand out sentences, the Judicial system does, such as Judge
LionMaker: *Details Gross Things that he wants to do to Minors and underaged individuals*
Also LionMaker: Sorry Guys, I was Hacked
Lionmaker is like Jon Venables; he always tells people the truth about what he did, then gets shocked and surprised when those people are horrified and turn their backs to him.
I saw the title and was about to joke "oh, Lionmaker's back?"
But holy hell no, it's actually him 😬
Even in Belgium Tom can't imagine a prison being filled with anyone else but black men
WOAH! REDDITORS COULDNT TELL A PDF WAS IN THEIR SERVER? I WONDER WHY!
wasnt it discord?
@cameronadams3456 their server, as in discord server yes. There are tons of reddits with discord servers
He was one of the first MC youtubers to get caught being a pedo. After that, others followed suit. Cant believe its 2024 & LionMaker is back.
Dats one shiny nose boi.
"Dear Friend"
Lionmaker going on about 'its fine because its legal where I live' proves he doesn't put the shopping cart back when he's done with it
The only true trolley problem in our modern times.
I absolutely love the Colossal Is Crazy clip 2:14 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The original Colossal Is Crazy lionmaker video is an absolute classic and brings me such nostalgia
Been watching for a couple years. Good to see you're doubling down on youtube, you're gonna make it here man
Toms face got all puffy from shaving. Adorable
No I think he’s just a bit chubby 😊
God Clown return soon? Lionmaker and Fousey freak outs we need his return
Fun Fact about Irish Consent laws:
Originally there were seperate laws for hetero and homosexual consent, 16 and 17 respectively. It was later updated when people cried discrimination, instead of lowering the age for homosexual consent they uped the age for hetero to match.
Ireland also has a Major to minor exclusion clause. 17-19 is considered legal but 20+ is relegated to 18 as the defacto age of consent. This, or similar, is the case across most of Europe. That, age of consent is 14 in France defense, is BS.
Ah yes, the guy that started the Minecraft UA-camr stereotype
First the Fousey crash out and now Lionmaker is back … Colossal needs to make a comeback.
If Hitler had a 2009 UA-cam review show, Tom would be his evil alternate self who forces him to review Friday the 13th on NES.
Why did bro trim his stache like that?
Its crazy that, when tested, the mortar holding the bricks together in the chimneys connected to the ovens at the "summer camps" bacj in 1940 came from a specific masonry company that wasnt formed until two years after the war ended!
Tom why is half you mustache a different color
You should read mode about how things are in Belgium about pdf files. It was practically legal there for a long time.
It looks like he started to shave one side of his mustache but just gave up in the end lol.
Do you know how little your title narrows it down?
The fact that he says "lines that have been TRACED" .. instead of "DRAWN" .. that just stands out to me 🤣
One of the biggest gripes i have when people cover this story is the interview with keemstar and paiges mother. They often make fun of the mom is how she talks, likes shes drunk and on drugs but its very clear that English is NOT her first language she even pauses and states that often saying things like "oh how god how do i say this english" i just think its a little unfair and i wish more people were kinder to her. Absolutely no fault to Tom, love him
This just in: tom has never seen a pic of that one painter
"Minecraft UA-camr" : and it all made sense.
I have no idea why, but I had it stuck in my mind that LionMaker had died. Also, some Belgians are absolutely nuts. The biggest PDF file case in Europe was a Belgian as well.
i feel so bad for paige. she was abused, humiliated, had a terrible family, and left the internet with her previous aliases. i hope she’s doing alright
"Some people say he's a controversial artist," made me cackle loudly at my job. Wowee, Tapout Tom, you're a funny son of a gun.
“Somehow, lionmaker has returned”
One thing about internet anonymity: If we did break it, these "people" would just move to other platforms that give it, and in the end those people who actually need that anonymity suffer (insert things said on TailsOS's website).
But with how it is now, we can always rely on them being stupid enough to snitch on themselves (like what you said at 16:05)!
Though those who know better "OPSEC" are probably in a country who lets them get a way with it, so we wouldn't even have a change to affect them if we broke their anonymity :/
Be the Austrian artist that the world needs you to be.
You should put your office chair collection on a shelf like funko pops c:
Lionmaker in the big 24😭🙏🏿
It took me a hot minute to remember Lion Maker
I generally try to stick with "you do the time, you paid for the crime." The problem is that statistically speaking, these people are repeat offenders (upwards of 70%). So it's hard to come in and say "give him a 2nd chance" without acknowledging the sad reality of repeat offenders.
"UA-cam's biggest predator." Which one?
Isn't there resounding evidence that "maturity" starts at 21? Perhaps laws need to catch up, and actually protect children, like how we expect them to. It just seems these predators are obsessed with property and breeding. Super gross, imho.
Based and 21 pilled
Darth Vader was a controversial artist? Gotta go update Wookiepedia!
I was so heartbroken to hear the news when I first did. Him and Stampy literally made my childhood.
It’s honestly very concerning how lion maker uses strangers/kids as his therapist rather than getting actual help.
You and everyone are comparing your moustache to Shitler-but it’s really only the one side of your late teen-stache (camera left… and I guess mirror-vision left as well) that’s sporting anything close to it… and it really is less ‘Shitler’, and more ‘Shitler with colour conversion switched on’… and that’s about as deep as that joke goes.
Just keep trimming that one side until the other one grows in to match it. Don’t just trim that side to match the shorter one or you might start Bizarro World War 3.
Ngl toms getting kinda tubby
Biggest predator? I never even left lol
Makes sense that a pdf file would love H3.