Got it for over a year now, daily gamer (4hours a day) .. It is still 100% good, no problems at all😁 Also put in some custom taller thumbsticks for a original controller and it fits👌 Also, dont wanna sound like a nerd but i do notice input lag when i now use a original controller. Can certainly recomend it.👌
Much appreciated the in depth review and time taken. In my understanding, Nacon doesn't have as many reviews anywhere (compared with other major controller major brands). They appear to be pushing out a new Revolution X Unlimited and it'll be great if you cover this device on your next review, cheers!
Just recrived my Nacon RIG Revolution X Pro controller. Been using Xbox elite 2 for over a 1.5 years but wanted to try the Nacon, WOW, it's pretty awesome controller. Regarding trigger stops, seems when you set it up for FPS it's fast. All of the buttons have a strong and tackle feeling. Very nice. Played for a few hours and got use to it and the sticks are very precise and responsive compared to xbox controller. I'm very happy so far and happy to have made this purchase. Highly recommend this controller and make sure its the "RIG" version. For $100 and once you get use to it, it competes with the $200+ brands. Very comfortable.
Hey dude.... got an Elite Series 2 Core... for now its my 2nd cause the first have problems by using the A Button... the 2nd seems to have the same issue.... but still testing. Are the "Paddles" good to use? And what are the Differences between the RIG and the Nacon Revolution X?
@@bytaal7592 someone online said that the RIG is the latest version of the Nacon Revolution X. NOTE, its the Xbox full size controller replacement. It may have the Hall Effects sticks but not 100% but it's really accurate and just really like it very much once you get use to it
@@nickm8651 It's the same controller. The name is probably different because of distribution to a different region, just like with phones. The premiere of the phone is in China, and the same phone will be launched in Europe in a few months, only under a different name. There is only 1 "Revolution X Pro" controller on the nacon site. There is no new RIG version.
Before you get, I had about 2 weeks ago, I play apex legends a lot so the amount of crouch spamming in game is madness but here's my review. Controller is amazing bar the fact that the linear auto setting disregards in game settings so if you are a hardcore FPS player you'll have to get used to a more raw feeling when aiming, everything else I was so happy with until a week and a bit in the back right button (used for crouch) became let's say Loose and feeling weak, about 2 days after if holding to stay behind cover it would make you stand up (button wouldn't actually register being held) the other two on buttons right at the bottom I literally never ever used as it felt so unnatural to press them... But I might have just had a faulty one. If issue never occured it was a 7 out of 10 the minus 3 purely because I have thousands of hours game time on apex and this controller made me aim like I was just starting out but tbf I could tell once I got used to it you'd absolutely beam. I've gone back to the fusion pro 2 this time and it's so cheap and cheerful even with stick drift I love it 🤣🤣 only until elite series 2 comes back in stock tho 😉
@@admanwhitmer if you have a soldering iron you can replace them. I did not do it cause i found the Wolverine Chroma V2 RGB. I use it now for 3 months and i love the controller. At first i thought the 4 back buttons would not be reachable by 4 fingers but i can reach them very well. My hand is round about 17cm long. My fingers round about 6cm +/- 2cm. And all other buttons are mechanical like mouse buttons. Very nice. But i can not tell how long this controller will be functional.
This controller actually has my favorite shape for ergonomics. My hands dont cramp at all when holding it while resting middle fingers on the triggers - as compared to many other controllers (Official xbox one, series x, razer wolverine v2, wolverine tournament to name a few)
How are the back buttons when you hold the controller this way? I also use my middle fingers on the triggers and find it difficult to press the back buttons of a Razer Wolverine TE. My ring fingers are by far my least used fingers and takes the most "strain" to press buttons/keys with lol.
Hi, my favorite too, but waht différence with no RIg and Rig version, i buy it on amazon yesterday received, work very very good ( just afraid rear button and Lb RB broke easliy with somes weeks or month). But i have no RIG mention on box and pad, just Nacon.
1) dolby atmos support is not done with some chip or circuit. it is a license for software simulation of dolby atmos via your pc's cpu. 2) stick drift is not caused by keeping your sticks tilted. it is caused by constant movement, as the potentiometers keeps rubbing their parts.l
At 9:05, you made a mistake by saying it’s the only controller you’ve “ever reviewed with Dolby Atmos” You reviewed the Victrix Gambit not too long ago and that too, has Dolby Atmos built in. Just to note! Great video though
I like your new controller wall, looks sick. Good review, I might consider getting this controller, having to decide between it and the new duel sense colors
Thanks Poke. If you have a working dualsense I would get a pro controller over the new "Cosmic" Sony colors, they aren't the sexiest thing in the world. The black and red are pretty nice though
I liked this controller very much but after 3 months playing and using the back buttons for apex the pressure contact of them are buggy. The buttons clicked good but my input only get recognized when im press very hard. Sometimes its even then not recognize. Other parts work very well but without the back buttons this controller is useless for me. I disassembled the controller and its sad that they used cheap switchs for the back buttons. Maybe you could disassemble the controllers that you are reviewing or embedd photos or videos of the pcb buttons and so on. So you can also review if the buttons will work a long time or are cheap trash. That would be amazing!
I've used 3 of these controllers all have the same issue you described straight out of the box, still usable but makes using the back buttons for anything other than a quick press annoying.
Two notes: 1) You seem to use Input Delay, Response Time, and Polling Rate interchangeably. The test your performing is only testing Polling Rate, which is just how frequently the controller sends new data to the PC. While this number being low contributes to a lower Input Delay, it doesn't necessarily mean a controller has low input delay. The controller could take 60ms (exaggeration) to process your inputs, for example. An analogy to make it more clear: You check your mail box once a day for a package. One day the package isn't there and the next day it is there, that doesn't mean the total shipping delay is 1 day. With your polling rate program you're effectively measuring the time between each check of the mailbox (the RATE at which you POLL the mailbox). The total shipping delay includes the time it takes for the warehouse to pack your order and USPS to deliver it. Likewise the Input delay includes the time it takes the controller to process your button press and send it to the PC. The only real way to test input delay properly on the controllers would require you to take them apart to attach an LED to the button, have a 360hz display, and a high framerate camera. You can look at other youtubers like Battle(non)sense to get an idea on this setup. You basically record you pressing the button and the screen in the same shot. The time between the LED turning on (the moment your press actually actuated the button) and the screen updating is the input delay of the full setup. It includes the delay of the computer and screen, but its the closest you can get and since those should be consistent, you can compare your results between controllers. 2) Dolby Atmos for Headphones is different from Dolby Atmos, and is basically all software. A Dolby Atmos headset or controller just means they paid the licensing fee to Dolby.
Don't really know what you mean by the last sentence, the controller itself has its own plug-in for sound, but it's a more exaggerated version of Dolby Atmos than from what I'm getting from my computer. Plugging in the controller allowed me to get Dolby Atmos for free, but since getting it for free I have been using my laptop's take on the software over my controller, because the sound is much more natural. When plugging into the controller, the software is making footsteps 3 feet from me sound like they are 9 feet from me. It's an almost comical difference, and at first I believed the controller's take on the software was far superior (greater and more noticeable depth) but in-game it is clearly misplacing sound by a great deal, and making sounds that occur right in my face twice as loud, ear-destroying, and distracting than they are regularly.
@@ethidian3444 Dolby Atmos proper requires a multi-speaker array with hardware support to function. Dolby Atmos for Headphones is completely software based, trying to make the two speakers in your headphones sound more directional. The controller itself isn't doing anything Dolby Atmos related, your computer or Xbox is using the software license the controller bundled in. The controllers output likely has it's own "gamery" tuning being applied, which is why it sounds so different when your running the software through your laptop jack vs the controller jack.
I like this controller but I don’t love it I can’t put my finger on it, on paper it’s great the rear button layout is great, it’s just like missing something, adjustable thumb stick heights would help but there’s something else missing idk if that’s just me. It works great but not amazing
@@notkyle9204 I think I know! The controller looks and feels like a toy. The ergonomics are very anti-index-finger. (It’s not the weight of the chord, but in the hands, comfortably the front wants to be pointed at the ground. Feels like, if this was a phone game, I’d have to worry about screen flipping. That said, the r1 and L1 eventually become unusable (or in this case, remmaped IMMEDIATELY) because of the eventual way you’ll be holding it, after time makes you point it at the ground while and ur index’s won’t reach the L n R1. I know they gave you weights in the grips to potentially mitigate….the weight just makes you wanna throw it less… Ps: One amazing thing this controller does have tho, is sticks. If I can put these sticks, on an Elite Series 2…… my lord. I’ve never experienced anything like it. It truly feels like their fluidity, is actually assisting my frame rates. Played CoD MW, and left my 4k120 settings on, and it almost felt like I was playing at 100fos. I went and played the next game on me ES2, and it was frame drop galore. Cause and effect? Maybe not, but shit those sticks feel brilliant.
@@casino9240 yea agreed even with the heaviest weights inside it still feels light and toy like. I also agree the sticks feel great they move around very smooth and have the perfect resistance. The controller has great features but it still feels off it’s like a great controller stuck in the shell of a shitty controller. It has potential like I can see why ppl like it but again I don’t love it. I can also see concern in quality issues it doesn’t feel sturdy and the way you change the thumb grips make it seem prone to a short life span, I guess time will tell for mine. Hopefully they come out with a version two and get it perfect
Good video!! Are the bumpers(R1/L1) the same as the shitty ones on the nacom unlimited revolution pro controller?? I love the nacom unlimited revolution controller, but the bumpers stop working cause the omron switches are cheap.
I know I have reposted this before but I want these controllers to be review, which are flydigi apex series 2, xim nexus, gulikit King Kong pro controller 2 , and nagashock
Hey did you actually test any KontrolFreeks on this controller? The guide on the KF website doesn't list every controller and quite often you can still find one that fits if the controller isn't on the list (e.g. SCUF Reflex). I'd love to know if Xbox or PS4/5 KFs could fit. Also what was the default polling rate?
to everyone wondering why nacon gives you the spacers that limit the range of motion, its because the main thing with the nacon controllers is that they made the base range of motion of there sticks a decent chunk wider than all the other controllers. the spacers are so u can bring down the outer deadzone of the stick (the high or low sens options in the software) and put a bigger spacer on so it feels like normal controllers
I’m just trying to get an understanding of the app so I can make my thumb sticks a little more responsive but I’m confused on how to work the graph on it
Have you done a video testing the latency/polling rate of the Elite 2 controller? Would be cool to see a comparison of speeds between all the different controllers...
I play Apex legends. My favorite controller is Victrix gambit,but now is broken,so this weekend I bought Nacon. Holy sht its much better controller,especialy aim. I feel like Genburten now😁. If you play Apex legends I recommend you this controller
@brigand cz do you know if kontrol freeks can fit on this im probably gonna get this controller during black friday or cyber monday to try it either way but wanted to know if they fit
So Kevin, now that we have another great premium controller in the 100$ range, what is your recommendation? Still Vitrix Gambit, or does this take the cake?
Are there any controllers that actually use magnetic hall effect sensors in the thumbsticks? How much more expensive is that component compared to what is used in every other thumbstick?
The SteelSeries Stratus Duo I reviewed did, and I have the GilliKit DonkeyKong "No Drift" controller waiting to be reviewed which uses magnetic thumbsticks (supposedly) we are disassembling in that review.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Interesting that two under $100 controllers can include that feature but scuf and xbox elite for twice the price don't... praying to the controller gods that the elite series 3 will have them! (doubt they will though)
I’m watching your videos again to find out what controller I should get to play Diablo 4. I have quite a lot already. But I’m on this one the gamesir g7 or the razer wolverine v2 chroma. Do u have a suggestion? Only thing I’m messed up about is trigger locks. It has it on the razer but the back buttons is not the best position but the other two controllers don’t have trigger locks 🤦🏼♂️
You didn't test the metal stick angle adjustment rings. I noticed because I am trying to figure out how to use them. There needs to be a dead zone on the outside edge of the movable area of the sticks and I can't find a way to do that. :(
One thing that is disappointing about the controller (and most xbox controllers) is you can't increase the polling rate. It is hard locked so those drivers that you installed won't do squat. From what I can gather online, only the Victrix Gambit has the fastest polling rate xbox controller to date. That is why the company is proudly touting it as the fastest. If it were possible can you do an in-depth comparison between this controller, Victrix Gambit, Wolverine Ultimate, and maybe the elite controller as reference? Excluding the elite controller I feel those 3 are the best xbox controllers you can get.
picked this bad boy up this week, like it so far (for thumb sticks - i just went with generic slip on style to add some height) only issue i have been having is the the controller seems to go to a sort of sleep when I alt-tab between different applications - i have it plugged into usb hub to, not sure if that makes a difference (Steam/PC)
Ok so I recently started playing GTA:V again on PC .... & I quickly found out my Astro C40 does NOT play nice with steam. So I was gonna take your recommendation to get the Flydigi Vader wireless but saw the Vader Pro wireless is out now. Being that I play exclusively on PC would you recommend this Nacon or the new Vader Pro?
Does this controller's headphone jack actually pick your mic volume up good? I'm sure you've seen my other comment reach your notifications, I'm in a situation here. My return on the Recon is up in about 3 weeks so I need to figure out which controller is good for that.
Hey, my Razer Wolverine Ultimate (v1) is dying on me (RB doesn't register with presses & stick drift on both sticks) and I need a new wired competitive tournament controller - should I get this one? I can't use the standard wireless xbox controller bc the A, B, X, Y buttons only register my presses around 50% of the time.
Hey Bro, still not shure what controller I should go for.... I got my 2nd XBox Elite Series 2 Core a day before... but still got some issues with the A-Button.... Not working that fine in some games as I need it. I´m still testing, but i´m looking around what controller I should go for. Should be not more expensive than a Xbox Elite Series 2 Core - I dont mind anylonger if wired or wireles... It just should work. What controller would you go for, when you need at least min 2 paddles in die back? ;)
Been looking at this after being disappointed and returning the scuf controller..my question is can I map the firing triggers to the bottom button's? (L2 L1)? Division 2 is my main and think that would help immensely! If not atleast you can adjust the dead zone.. everyone goes on about trigger stop but as long as you can set the dead zone then I'm good..the only thing good about the trigger stop over dead zone adjustment is the return travel of the trigger..which eats up firing time, especially if your in the DZ with toxic players that still haven't gotten over going rouge and killing ppl just for no reason.
It would be nice if more controllers offered the legacy stick layout. The elite series 2 has it but its a broken version of it. Nobody cares about that issue.
I love how methodical and consistent you are with your reviews. I always come here first because I know I’m going to get an accurate and no BS review from a real gamer! ✌🏽🫡
Yeah controller looks like a nice alternative to a elite series 2. But I’ve been debating about getting a PlayStation controller because I keep hearing that Xbox controllers can’t over clock. Like you can but it’s not actually doing anything
That is an absolutely true statement, I will be doing a video overclocking several different controllers to demonstrate if it makes a measurable difference
@@cceynar7353 yah so is mine. But i don’t think it’s “actually” doing anything man. They’re locked and “installing service” doesn’t make it faster. Unless u have a way to test the difference?? Vcuda did a vid about it
I honestly don’t know what to believe now.. because now I’m seeing this about the series x controller- “Upon executing the process, it can drop the latency of Xbox controller from 11.1-millisecond average to a whopping 3.7 millisecond. In our preliminary test, we found that the controller of the Xbox Series X can be overclocked to an 8000 polling rate. The initial rate for an Xbox Series X controller is 250.” (Techtastes)
Good review thanks for uploading! This video was one of the reason I ended up getting one, very good controller. However there is a Critical bug that basicly can't be used at all if you use Wired Headset via Controllers AUX connector. It disconnects and controller needs to be "Rebooted" by unplugging and replug. The defect is easy to repeat. Firmware update is needed and not sure if there is one yet available? Do you have any info regarding this issue? I have contacted Nacon support but so far isn't looking very promising. Only got copypaste nonsense reply telling me how to use App. I replied them with video how can't update firmware. Nothing happens when press "Update Controller" from App, on Xbox nor wiht PC. So either there isn't new FW avaiable, or the Apps update function is broken.Luckily I'm using mostly Wireless Headset and in that case unit never freeze. It only happens when Wired Headset is connected and used.
As mush as I can appreciate the breakdown of this controller... 33 minutes is too long. On a side note: If you dont like the trigger pull... reassign / swap the triggers with the bumpers and you wont need trigger stops. It works great.
just want to see a review on your newer xbox elite series 2. just got my new one, and well only thing i noticed different is the box has a couple changes. but thus far controller feels good, face buttons do not stick as they did on my last 2 straight out of their boxes. the new controller doesnt seem to have bumper issues but thats what im hoping does not happen. so we will wait and see.
Yeah I have no tangible proof (just word of mouth in the controller community) that the newer batches of Elite Series 2 controllers are held to a higher standard of quality control, I personally have had no issues with mine, which is good because its one of my favorite Xbox controllers hands down.
Q please Have u tested the polling rate on low or high sensitivity There is two options for the sensitivity on this controller I remembered the old nacon if i choose low sensitivity. The input lag is too hogh
You forgot to mention you can decrease deadzones for games without the option, it seems pretty obvious but not, you can increase deadzones yes, but to decrease/create one you have to make smaller inputs recognise larger inputs on the stick. Make after 0.0 angle recognise higher reactivity than 0.0 ( if that makes sense )
@@bytaal7592 first question is what game? Games like halo infinite, and cod have their own dead one settings IN GAME so this isn’t necessary. Games like overwatch, destiny, and doom eternal DO NOT, so this method of an “anti dead zone” (as steam refers to it), is absolutely game changing
@@admanwhitmer Any game that doesn't offer dead zone settings I have been changing the dead zone in controller software and testing it in several games and it didn't change in game deadzone, and that's why i want more explanation for this method because maybe i am doing something wrong
Fun fact about this controller, if you're buying this for a Steam deck, it does not work at all. Funny, the PS4 version works perfectly and it is recognized as an Xbox controller.
If you only need two buttons/paddles underneath, sure. The gambit is fast but the rear paddle four button configuration is way too close. The two paddle option it comes with is adequate. Ive had the gambit since it came out and its my daily driver but if u need four back buttons/ paddles i wouldn't recommend it.
Just bought this remote. I'm so tired of hand cramping dexterity stripping xbox remotes that fall apart in 2 hours or that are broke out of the box like the last three elite 2 I just tried to by. Microsoft is selling refurbished remotes as new. I can even see the sku was removed and replaced with a new sku but it was in the old box. Using a Xbox remote is like putting your shoes on the wrong feet and running.
well thats sad... i am playing only racing games and i searched for good controller with good durability... sadly the triggers arent good enough for racing games... my xbox elite 2 will go back to seller.... hex is not availabe in germany... scuf is too expesnive (as well as hex) and yeah... soooo i have a problem
That’s a really hard question to answer because they both have some features that I really like, however overall I do prefer this controller mainly because I like the rear buttons more, and in my opinion that is the most important feature of a pro controller, however this doesn’t have trigger stops which sucks, and the included thumbsticks are slippery
@@GamerHeavenOfficial yea I play nba 2k alot so I need my thumb sticks to be tight I might get the gambit. Plus I like the responsive time u mentioned in the review video
@@DerekMoore82 I have bought and returned most controllers. The best I have used is Gen1 xbox elite controller but that got worn out and they don't sell them anymore. The one I keep going back to is Turtle Beach Recons. The shape fits my hands and similar to Gen1 best (fit is preference as you get used to a controller). The only gripe I have on the Turtle are he bumper buttons and wished they stuck out a little more.
Why thumbs down. This guy's reviews are spot on.
fr my favorit chanel and the only one who makes me laugh while reviewing xd
I love that you’re checking polling rates n accuracy!
Got it for over a year now, daily gamer (4hours a day) .. It is still 100% good, no problems at all😁 Also put in some custom taller thumbsticks for a original controller and it fits👌
Also, dont wanna sound like a nerd but i do notice input lag when i now use a original controller.
Can certainly recomend it.👌
What is the stick tension like? I love the feeling of ps4 controller thumb sticks and was hoping it was not as loose as the series x controller
Much appreciated the in depth review and time taken. In my understanding, Nacon doesn't have as many reviews anywhere (compared with other major controller major brands). They appear to be pushing out a new Revolution X Unlimited and it'll be great if you cover this device on your next review, cheers!
Just recrived my Nacon RIG Revolution X Pro controller. Been using Xbox elite 2 for over a 1.5 years but wanted to try the Nacon, WOW, it's pretty awesome controller. Regarding trigger stops, seems when you set it up for FPS it's fast. All of the buttons have a strong and tackle feeling. Very nice. Played for a few hours and got use to it and the sticks are very precise and responsive compared to xbox controller.
I'm very happy so far and happy to have made this purchase. Highly recommend this controller and make sure its the "RIG" version.
For $100 and once you get use to it, it competes with the $200+ brands. Very comfortable.
Hey dude.... got an Elite Series 2 Core... for now its my 2nd cause the first have problems by using the A Button... the 2nd seems to have the same issue.... but still testing.
Are the "Paddles" good to use?
And what are the Differences between the RIG and the Nacon Revolution X?
@@nosubstance8401 rhe RIG is the latest one for xbox or windows
@@nickm8651 Can you explain more about the difference between RIG version and revolution pro x ?
@@bytaal7592 someone online said that the RIG is the latest version of the Nacon Revolution X. NOTE, its the Xbox full size controller replacement. It may have the Hall Effects sticks but not 100% but it's really accurate and just really like it very much once you get use to it
@@nickm8651 It's the same controller. The name is probably different because of distribution to a different region, just like with phones. The premiere of the phone is in China, and the same phone will be launched in Europe in a few months, only under a different name. There is only 1 "Revolution X Pro" controller on the nacon site. There is no new RIG version.
Wow that orange controller brought back so much nostalgia to me. Had one as a kid.
Before you get, I had about 2 weeks ago, I play apex legends a lot so the amount of crouch spamming in game is madness but here's my review. Controller is amazing bar the fact that the linear auto setting disregards in game settings so if you are a hardcore FPS player you'll have to get used to a more raw feeling when aiming, everything else I was so happy with until a week and a bit in the back right button (used for crouch) became let's say Loose and feeling weak, about 2 days after if holding to stay behind cover it would make you stand up (button wouldn't actually register being held) the other two on buttons right at the bottom I literally never ever used as it felt so unnatural to press them... But I might have just had a faulty one. If issue never occured it was a 7 out of 10 the minus 3 purely because I have thousands of hours game time on apex and this controller made me aim like I was just starting out but tbf I could tell once I got used to it you'd absolutely beam. I've gone back to the fusion pro 2 this time and it's so cheap and cheerful even with stick drift I love it 🤣🤣 only until elite series 2 comes back in stock tho 😉
Thank you for your review , this information will probably help others make a decision if this controller is good for them or not
Agree bro, i have exact the same issue with the nacon. Disassembled it and they used very cheap switches for the back buttons.
@@sensationxyz can you replace them?
@@admanwhitmer if you have a soldering iron you can replace them. I did not do it cause i found the Wolverine Chroma V2 RGB. I use it now for 3 months and i love the controller. At first i thought the 4 back buttons would not be reachable by 4 fingers but i can reach them very well.
My hand is round about 17cm long.
My fingers round about 6cm +/- 2cm.
And all other buttons are mechanical like mouse buttons. Very nice.
But i can not tell how long this controller will be functional.
This controller actually has my favorite shape for ergonomics.
My hands dont cramp at all when holding it while resting middle fingers on the triggers - as compared to many other controllers (Official xbox one, series x, razer wolverine v2, wolverine tournament to name a few)
How are the back buttons when you hold the controller this way? I also use my middle fingers on the triggers and find it difficult to press the back buttons of a Razer Wolverine TE. My ring fingers are by far my least used fingers and takes the most "strain" to press buttons/keys with lol.
Hi, my favorite too, but waht différence with no RIg and Rig version, i buy it on amazon yesterday received, work very very good ( just afraid rear button and Lb RB broke easliy with somes weeks or month). But i have no RIG mention on box and pad, just Nacon.
1) dolby atmos support is not done with some chip or circuit. it is a license for software simulation of dolby atmos via your pc's cpu. 2) stick drift is not caused by keeping your sticks tilted. it is caused by constant movement, as the potentiometers keeps rubbing their parts.l
At 9:05, you made a mistake by saying it’s the only controller you’ve “ever reviewed with Dolby Atmos” You reviewed the Victrix Gambit not too long ago and that too, has Dolby Atmos built in. Just to note! Great video though
Good point, I forgot about the good ol Gambit.
I just bought the controller from the Nacons winter sale for 60 euros! I'm looking forward to it when the good piece arrives.
Best & truest line ever spoken ... Common sense ain't common!!!!
You literally have taken over for me on console accessories reviews...well done.b
I like your new controller wall, looks sick. Good review, I might consider getting this controller, having to decide between it and the new duel sense colors
Thanks Poke. If you have a working dualsense I would get a pro controller over the new "Cosmic" Sony colors, they aren't the sexiest thing in the world. The black and red are pretty nice though
Just got one and you gave a very entertaining review 😂
did you ever find thumbstick grips for it?
I would like to see a video between nacon revolution x pro vs razer wolverine v2 chroma or nacon revolution x pro vs razer wolverine ultimate.
I liked this controller very much but after 3 months playing and using the back buttons for apex the pressure contact of them are buggy. The buttons clicked good but my input only get recognized when im press very hard. Sometimes its even then not recognize. Other parts work very well but without the back buttons this controller is useless for me. I disassembled the controller and its sad that they used cheap switchs for the back buttons.
Maybe you could disassemble the controllers that you are reviewing or embedd photos or videos of the pcb buttons and so on. So you can also review if the buttons will work a long time or are cheap trash. That would be amazing!
I've used 3 of these controllers all have the same issue you described straight out of the box, still usable but makes using the back buttons for anything other than a quick press annoying.
I really like the new studio setup!
Thanks sleeper
Nice seeing you again ,I think you guided me with headphones earlier.
This one looks like a buy ,can’t get an OG controller.
Think I’ll go for it
Two notes:
1) You seem to use Input Delay, Response Time, and Polling Rate interchangeably. The test your performing is only testing Polling Rate, which is just how frequently the controller sends new data to the PC. While this number being low contributes to a lower Input Delay, it doesn't necessarily mean a controller has low input delay. The controller could take 60ms (exaggeration) to process your inputs, for example.
An analogy to make it more clear: You check your mail box once a day for a package. One day the package isn't there and the next day it is there, that doesn't mean the total shipping delay is 1 day. With your polling rate program you're effectively measuring the time between each check of the mailbox (the RATE at which you POLL the mailbox). The total shipping delay includes the time it takes for the warehouse to pack your order and USPS to deliver it. Likewise the Input delay includes the time it takes the controller to process your button press and send it to the PC.
The only real way to test input delay properly on the controllers would require you to take them apart to attach an LED to the button, have a 360hz display, and a high framerate camera. You can look at other youtubers like Battle(non)sense to get an idea on this setup. You basically record you pressing the button and the screen in the same shot. The time between the LED turning on (the moment your press actually actuated the button) and the screen updating is the input delay of the full setup. It includes the delay of the computer and screen, but its the closest you can get and since those should be consistent, you can compare your results between controllers.
2) Dolby Atmos for Headphones is different from Dolby Atmos, and is basically all software. A Dolby Atmos headset or controller just means they paid the licensing fee to Dolby.
Don't really know what you mean by the last sentence, the controller itself has its own plug-in for sound, but it's a more exaggerated version of Dolby Atmos than from what I'm getting from my computer.
Plugging in the controller allowed me to get Dolby Atmos for free, but since getting it for free I have been using my laptop's take on the software over my controller, because the sound is much more natural. When plugging into the controller, the software is making footsteps 3 feet from me sound like they are 9 feet from me. It's an almost comical difference, and at first I believed the controller's take on the software was far superior (greater and more noticeable depth) but in-game it is clearly misplacing sound by a great deal, and making sounds that occur right in my face twice as loud, ear-destroying, and distracting than they are regularly.
@@ethidian3444 Dolby Atmos proper requires a multi-speaker array with hardware support to function. Dolby Atmos for Headphones is completely software based, trying to make the two speakers in your headphones sound more directional. The controller itself isn't doing anything Dolby Atmos related, your computer or Xbox is using the software license the controller bundled in.
The controllers output likely has it's own "gamery" tuning being applied, which is why it sounds so different when your running the software through your laptop jack vs the controller jack.
@@OmairArif Man why can't things be more simple.
@@OmairArif Who cares?
Nacon is simply the best controller manufactor
Congrats on the 50k
Thank you!
Brilliantly detailed video, this controller seems really good i might keep my eye on it or maybe buy it tomorrow lol
Thanks Mark
I’m so glad I subscribed to you. Amazing video, thank you
Thanks man
really good controller but l like stiff thumbstick and 1ms response time
I qualify in both departments. Just take me out to dinner first 😂
@@casino9240 fuck yeah😎
I like this controller but I don’t love it I can’t put my finger on it, on paper it’s great the rear button layout is great, it’s just like missing something, adjustable thumb stick heights would help but there’s something else missing idk if that’s just me. It works great but not amazing
@@notkyle9204 I think I know!
The controller looks and feels like a toy.
The ergonomics are very anti-index-finger. (It’s not the weight of the chord, but in the hands, comfortably the front wants to be pointed at the ground. Feels like, if this was a phone game, I’d have to worry about screen flipping. That said, the r1 and L1 eventually become unusable (or in this case, remmaped IMMEDIATELY) because of the eventual way you’ll be holding it, after time makes you point it at the ground while and ur index’s won’t reach the L n R1. I know they gave you weights in the grips to potentially mitigate….the weight just makes you wanna throw it less…
Ps: One amazing thing this controller does have tho, is sticks. If I can put these sticks, on an Elite Series 2…… my lord. I’ve never experienced anything like it. It truly feels like their fluidity, is actually assisting my frame rates. Played CoD MW, and left my 4k120 settings on, and it almost felt like I was playing at 100fos. I went and played the next game on me ES2, and it was frame drop galore. Cause and effect? Maybe not, but shit those sticks feel brilliant.
@@casino9240 yea agreed even with the heaviest weights inside it still feels light and toy like. I also agree the sticks feel great they move around very smooth and have the perfect resistance. The controller has great features but it still feels off it’s like a great controller stuck in the shell of a shitty controller. It has potential like I can see why ppl like it but again I don’t love it. I can also see concern in quality issues it doesn’t feel sturdy and the way you change the thumb grips make it seem prone to a short life span, I guess time will tell for mine. Hopefully they come out with a version two and get it perfect
Great review. Like the commentary also
Looks like a great budget buy. Way better than powerA
Good video!!
Are the bumpers(R1/L1) the same as the shitty ones on the nacom unlimited revolution pro controller??
I love the nacom unlimited revolution controller, but the bumpers stop working cause the omron switches are cheap.
Bros funny asf and gave so much info. Frfr thank you so much because I didn’t know what the waits were for. They wouldn’t fit in my thumb sticks lol
I know I have reposted this before but I want these controllers to be review, which are flydigi apex series 2, xim nexus, gulikit King Kong pro controller 2 , and nagashock
I have 2 of those in my possession, and will acquire the other.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial nice, btw great reviews
the S3 rear button just broke... where can I get some to replace it?
you should really open them up to check if it has hall effect thumbsticks and triggers.
Hey did you actually test any KontrolFreeks on this controller? The guide on the KF website doesn't list every controller and quite often you can still find one that fits if the controller isn't on the list (e.g. SCUF Reflex). I'd love to know if Xbox or PS4/5 KFs could fit.
Also what was the default polling rate?
I subbed bc of this video. It was so so good
Great video! Thanks for all the info 💪
No problem 👍
to everyone wondering why nacon gives you the spacers that limit the range of motion, its because the main thing with the nacon controllers is that they made the base range of motion of there sticks a decent chunk wider than all the other controllers. the spacers are so u can bring down the outer deadzone of the stick (the high or low sens options in the software) and put a bigger spacer on so it feels like normal controllers
Have you heard of punctuation?
@@kennymccormick8295 no
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Great video man for some reason nothing happens when I bind my buttons either way though
But wait, the Victrix controller has Dolby Atmos support as well out of the box. And you’ve covered that before.
I knowww, I forgot the Gambit has Atmos, sorry Victrix lol
Back buttons > back paddles.. this looks like a good competitor for the Razer Tournament Edition.. would still prefer extra shoulder buttons though
Keep up the entertaining content 👍🏻❤️
Thank you! Will do!
I’m just trying to get an understanding of the app so I can make my thumb sticks a little more responsive but I’m confused on how to work the graph on it
Have you done a video testing the latency/polling rate of the Elite 2 controller? Would be cool to see a comparison of speeds between all the different controllers...
No but I will soon
The shape reminds me of the s controller from the original Xbox
I play Apex legends. My favorite controller is Victrix gambit,but now is broken,so this weekend I bought Nacon. Holy sht its much better controller,especialy aim. I feel like Genburten now😁. If you play Apex legends I recommend you this controller
@brigand cz do you know if kontrol freeks can fit on this im probably gonna get this controller during black friday or cyber monday to try it either way but wanted to know if they fit
NGL This looks exactly like the Nacon MGX PRO excpet joined in the middle.
I bought the controller and the thumb stick is slippery as stated. What thumbstick grips work on this? I know he stated kontrol freeks do not fit.
I like using the Skull and Co. Thumbgrips for Ps4/ps5. Perfect fit and pretty good quality for its price.
I just ordered these based on your comment. I hope they help. I tried some generic ones and they are just as bad as the originals.
So Kevin, now that we have another great premium controller in the 100$ range, what is your recommendation? Still Vitrix Gambit, or does this take the cake?
Are there any controllers that actually use magnetic hall effect sensors in the thumbsticks? How much more expensive is that component compared to what is used in every other thumbstick?
@@hydb801 yeah, but he said several times that he didn't know if they really had the hall effect sensors.
The SteelSeries Stratus Duo I reviewed did, and I have the GilliKit DonkeyKong "No Drift" controller waiting to be reviewed which uses magnetic thumbsticks (supposedly) we are disassembling in that review.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Interesting that two under $100 controllers can include that feature but scuf and xbox elite for twice the price don't... praying to the controller gods that the elite series 3 will have them! (doubt they will though)
@@michaelvitello837 usually the controllers that aren't typically used for consoles will be cheaper.
Magnetic is dumb they fall off. Unless you don't play a game you get nervous on
I’m watching your videos again to find out what controller I should get to play Diablo 4. I have quite a lot already. But I’m on this one the gamesir g7 or the razer wolverine v2 chroma. Do u have a suggestion? Only thing I’m messed up about is trigger locks. It has it on the razer but the back buttons is not the best position but the other two controllers don’t have trigger locks 🤦🏼♂️
You didn't test the metal stick angle adjustment rings. I noticed because I am trying to figure out how to use them. There needs to be a dead zone on the outside edge of the movable area of the sticks and I can't find a way to do that. :(
Have you tried to put the Kontrolfreeks on?
One thing that is disappointing about the controller (and most xbox controllers) is you can't increase the polling rate. It is hard locked so those drivers that you installed won't do squat. From what I can gather online, only the Victrix Gambit has the fastest polling rate xbox controller to date. That is why the company is proudly touting it as the fastest.
If it were possible can you do an in-depth comparison between this controller, Victrix Gambit, Wolverine Ultimate, and maybe the elite controller as reference? Excluding the elite controller I feel those 3 are the best xbox controllers you can get.
Correct, we overclock in this video and the polling rate is not affected. Yes I was planning a comparison between those controllers
picked this bad boy up this week, like it so far (for thumb sticks - i just went with generic slip on style to add some height) only issue i have been having is the the controller seems to go to a sort of sleep when I alt-tab between different applications - i have it plugged into usb hub to, not sure if that makes a difference (Steam/PC)
Could you do disassemble tear down of this controller?
Ok so I recently started playing GTA:V again on PC .... & I quickly found out my Astro C40 does NOT play nice with steam. So I was gonna take your recommendation to get the Flydigi Vader wireless but saw the Vader Pro wireless is out now. Being that I play exclusively on PC would you recommend this Nacon or the new Vader Pro?
Does this controller's headphone jack actually pick your mic volume up good? I'm sure you've seen my other comment reach your notifications, I'm in a situation here. My return on the Recon is up in about 3 weeks so I need to figure out which controller is good for that.
Do you like this controller or the chroma v2?
Hey, my Razer Wolverine Ultimate (v1) is dying on me (RB doesn't register with presses & stick drift on both sticks) and I need a new wired competitive tournament controller - should I get this one?
I can't use the standard wireless xbox controller bc the A, B, X, Y buttons only register my presses around 50% of the time.
Hey Bro, still not shure what controller I should go for.... I got my 2nd XBox Elite Series 2 Core a day before... but still got some issues with the A-Button.... Not working that fine in some games as I need it.
I´m still testing, but i´m looking around what controller I should go for. Should be not more expensive than a Xbox Elite Series 2 Core - I dont mind anylonger if wired or wireles... It just should work.
What controller would you go for, when you need at least min 2 paddles in die back? ;)
Been looking at this after being disappointed and returning the scuf controller..my question is can I map the firing triggers to the bottom button's? (L2 L1)? Division 2 is my main and think that would help immensely! If not atleast you can adjust the dead zone.. everyone goes on about trigger stop but as long as you can set the dead zone then I'm good..the only thing good about the trigger stop over dead zone adjustment is the return travel of the trigger..which eats up firing time, especially if your in the DZ with toxic players that still haven't gotten over going rouge and killing ppl just for no reason.
lol the dog is like bro im trying to sleep, can u keep the volume down plz? 🐶Rrrrrrr!!!
Please do eSwap pro S next
Ok
It would be nice if more controllers offered the legacy stick layout. The elite series 2 has it but its a broken version of it. Nobody cares about that issue.
What do you mean legacy layout?
Hey! I bought this controller for xbox sx but when i playing warzone 2 the game is ghosting when i move with the right thumbstick.. can you help me?
Got one for £36 from eBay brand new while they retail about £80-£100 🙂
Doesnt Victrix Gambit also have Dolby Atmos? Also could you do a comparison video of this one and the Gambit?
I love how methodical and consistent you are with your reviews. I always come here first because I know I’m going to get an accurate and no BS review from a real gamer! ✌🏽🫡
Thanks John, that was one of the nicest comments I’ve ever read.
Yeah controller looks like a nice alternative to a elite series 2. But I’ve been debating about getting a PlayStation controller because I keep hearing that Xbox controllers can’t over clock. Like you can but it’s not actually doing anything
That is an absolutely true statement, I will be doing a video overclocking several different controllers to demonstrate if it makes a measurable difference
You can 100% overclock a xbox controller on PC. My elite series 2 is overclocked.
@@cceynar7353 yah so is mine. But i don’t think it’s “actually” doing anything man. They’re locked and “installing service” doesn’t make it faster. Unless u have a way to test the difference?? Vcuda did a vid about it
I honestly don’t know what to believe now.. because now I’m seeing this about the series x controller- “Upon executing the process, it can drop the latency of Xbox controller from 11.1-millisecond average to a whopping 3.7 millisecond. In our preliminary test, we found that the controller of the Xbox Series X can be overclocked to an 8000 polling rate. The initial rate for an Xbox Series X controller is 250.” (Techtastes)
Good review thanks for uploading! This video was one of the reason I ended up getting one, very good controller. However there is a Critical bug that basicly can't be used at all if you use Wired Headset via Controllers AUX connector. It disconnects and controller needs to be "Rebooted" by unplugging and replug. The defect is easy to repeat. Firmware update is needed and not sure if there is one yet available? Do you have any info regarding this issue? I have contacted Nacon support but so far isn't looking very promising. Only got copypaste nonsense reply telling me how to use App. I replied them with video how can't update firmware. Nothing happens when press "Update Controller" from App, on Xbox nor wiht PC. So either there isn't new FW avaiable, or the Apps update function is broken.Luckily I'm using mostly Wireless Headset and in that case unit never freeze. It only happens when Wired Headset is connected and used.
I hope it won't break for smash the buttons for fighting games
I have a question because the dolby program works with a wireless headset ?
As mush as I can appreciate the breakdown of this controller... 33 minutes is too long.
On a side note: If you dont like the trigger pull... reassign / swap the triggers with the bumpers and you wont need trigger stops. It works great.
how dose it compare to the Turtle Beach controller, i have one and haven't had any issues.
just wish it had a bluetooth connection for pc at least
Can you change the tension on the thumbsticks at all ?! I’m trying to find a controller that does that isn’t the elite
Yo where you get those silver controller stand
ok Nacon Revolution X vs turtlebeach recon.. i dont know what to choose
€99 atm €45
Gambit or this one? I could get the Nacon for 50€
I got one and the right stick is a smaller diameter than the right?
Is this a feature or a defect?
Very nice
just want to see a review on your newer xbox elite series 2. just got my new one, and well only thing i noticed different is the box has a couple changes. but thus far controller feels good, face buttons do not stick as they did on my last 2 straight out of their boxes. the new controller doesnt seem to have bumper issues but thats what im hoping does not happen. so we will wait and see.
Yeah I have no tangible proof (just word of mouth in the controller community) that the newer batches of Elite Series 2 controllers are held to a higher standard of quality control, I personally have had no issues with mine, which is good because its one of my favorite Xbox controllers hands down.
How would the software response curve would interact with a game like cod warzone response curve, warzone has 3 options so what would happen
Where did you get the controller stands from? Link please
Q please
Have u tested the polling rate on low or high sensitivity
There is two options for the sensitivity on this controller
I remembered the old nacon if i choose low sensitivity. The input lag is too hogh
You forgot to mention you can decrease deadzones for games without the option, it seems pretty obvious but not, you can increase deadzones yes, but to decrease/create one you have to make smaller inputs recognise larger inputs on the stick. Make after 0.0 angle recognise higher reactivity than 0.0
( if that makes sense )
Bro I do this for destiny and it is an absolute GAME CHANGER.
@@admanwhitmer its a game changer for every game honestly
Can you explain with more details? because i have this controller and decreasing the dead zone doesn't effect any game at all.
@@bytaal7592 first question is what game? Games like halo infinite, and cod have their own dead one settings IN GAME so this isn’t necessary. Games like overwatch, destiny, and doom eternal DO NOT, so this method of an “anti dead zone” (as steam refers to it), is absolutely game changing
@@admanwhitmer Any game that doesn't offer dead zone settings I have been changing the dead zone in controller software and testing it in several games and it didn't change in game deadzone, and that's why i want more explanation for this method because maybe i am doing something wrong
are the ergonomics similar to an xbox 360 controller?
Do u have the new eswap s controller to review?
One sunken shoulder" balance lol
Fun fact about this controller, if you're buying this for a Steam deck, it does not work at all. Funny, the PS4 version works perfectly and it is recognized as an Xbox controller.
do kontrol freek fit on these controller is my question!
How did they not put hair triggers. Deal Breaker for me
Shoul I buy this one or Gambit Victrix for playing Apex Legends?
If you only need two buttons/paddles underneath, sure. The gambit is fast but the rear paddle four button configuration is way too close. The two paddle option it comes with is adequate. Ive had the gambit since it came out and its my daily driver but if u need four back buttons/ paddles i wouldn't recommend it.
Just bought this remote. I'm so tired of hand cramping dexterity stripping xbox remotes that fall apart in 2 hours or that are broke out of the box like the last three elite 2 I just tried to by. Microsoft is selling refurbished remotes as new. I can even see the sku was removed and replaced with a new sku but it was in the old box. Using a Xbox remote is like putting your shoes on the wrong feet and running.
How strong is the vibration?
well thats sad... i am playing only racing games and i searched for good controller with good durability... sadly the triggers arent good enough for racing games... my xbox elite 2 will go back to seller.... hex is not availabe in germany... scuf is too expesnive (as well as hex) and yeah... soooo i have a problem
This dudes hilarious. Liked and subbd.
Is it better than victrix gambit
That’s a really hard question to answer because they both have some features that I really like, however overall I do prefer this controller mainly because I like the rear buttons more, and in my opinion that is the most important feature of a pro controller, however this doesn’t have trigger stops which sucks, and the included thumbsticks are slippery
@@GamerHeavenOfficial yea I play nba 2k alot so I need my thumb sticks to be tight I might get the gambit. Plus I like the responsive time u mentioned in the review video
Victrix Gambit imo best as of now even over this and the Wolverine.
Gambit back buttons are ok as long as you only use their two button configuration. The four button/paddle is way too close.
Nice detail review. However, this is not for me for FPS games. Right stick is dead and the feel of the buttons feel cheap.
Which controller would you recommend?
@@DerekMoore82 I have bought and returned most controllers. The best I have used is Gen1 xbox elite controller but that got worn out and they don't sell them anymore. The one I keep going back to is Turtle Beach Recons. The shape fits my hands and similar to Gen1 best (fit is preference as you get used to a controller). The only gripe I have on the Turtle are he bumper buttons and wished they stuck out a little more.
@@phx4669 I was trying to decide between the Rig Nacon Revolution or the Gamesir G7, ... 🤔