It's not like they have him more character to act though. He was accepted on the show for his brutal looks and moves, and that's pretty much all that was of him even in more detailed episodes about sateda.
This is where Woolsey goes to his quarters and changes into a suit and tie and John comes by and ask weren't you going to change into something more comfortable .. Woolsey says this is more comfortable
nice comment.. universe was some desperate space wifes shit tho but wtf r u guys talkin about? sg1 season 1 was the best of all of em. u might be pretty young arent u
I have to wonder if Jason knew someone irl that had an opiate problem, he did a pretty accurate portrayal of a person having severe opiate withdrawal. Had I not been a SG fan & tuned in to parts of this with no context I'd have assumed that's what this was about.
@@ingainloggningsnamn Well, he was addicted to Wraith enzyme. I'm sure Wraith enzyme if it was real would have far worse withdrawl effects than Earth drugs.
Something the Wraith used on their victims to make the feeding process last a lot longer. Just imagine a vampire using a regenerative formula on a human to double their healing factor. But this kind is addictive, like methamphetamine only the drawback is bigger.
Jason Momoa is my favorite actor! This scene is intense! I never got this far in Stargate Atlantis. But my favorite Jason Momoa scene is from Frontier, season 1.
All that thrashing makes me wonder why they only restrain his wrists and ankles. A single belt across the chest, or two smaller ones near the shoulders, would help a lot with preventing accidental concussions. Then again, it’s kinda hard to get that visceral image of rage and desperation if the person's fully immobile. 🤷♂️
@@UGNAvalon Anything that restricts chest movement for long periods, especially in a psychotic (or similar) individual that is struggling like that can be pretty dangerous. That's why the "restraint chairs" used in corrections are so controversial. They can and have caused deaths. A better option would have been to sedate the shit out of him. Medically induced coma until the enzyme levels dropped. Supportive care until then
Okay I get why his friend had to be put cold turkey because they needed him quickly but why the hell couldn't they actually just give Ronin some sedatives to help him through it easier? I didn't get that part.
I think that when you have enzyme in your blood sedatives don't work. Ad least that was with Ford in Sidge patr 3. Dr. Beckett put in him enugh sedatives to put him in induced coma but he was still runing around. It is how I understunad that pary. Mayby I'm wrong.
Also, sedatives can also become addicting, and given that they're dealing with someone who was just addicted to something pretty serious, that's the last thing they wanted to risk. Also, we have no idea how long it took for Ronan to come back, it could've been a few hours, a few days, even a few weeks for all we know. Also, there are multiple SG teams at Atlantis by this point, with Shepherds team a man down, other teams can fill the gaps as needed.
That's true. It's common practice to give detoxing addicts some sort of sedative to get through the worse parts of it rather than forcing them to go cold turkey. Withdrawal can literally kill you.
The Wraith enzyme itself is 'designed' to keep the victim alive and active throughout the feeding process. The worst of it wouldn't have killed Ronon, but it also wouldn't have left any room for sedation. Really messed up.
Idk if the writers forgot but when Ronans character was introduced in 2x03 he said the wraith stopped feeding on him and made him a runner instead. Although there r several theories why this is, nothing is concrete. Fans assumed he was immune to wraith feeding until this episode happened. Which brings up some confusion. Was he immune to wraith feeding and the writers forgot or didn't care about that piece of detail? Did the writers just abandon that idea of immunization? Did the wraith stop because he was strong enough to become a runner and improve the wraith hunting skills? Did the wraith not find ronan tasteful when feeding? As I said, many theories and sadly the writers on stargate atlantis still haven't shed any light on this so we are never gonna get an actual concrete answer. So, What's your guys' opinion on this?
Yeah I also think they just did it for the lols, considering how concerned the Wraith we're by the existence of the Hoffen drug survivors I doubt they would take the chance and release somebody that is immune to feeding.
I personally like to think that he was always the absolute survival machine you see from his introduction to the end of the series and the only time he becomes a "softer" person is when he's with people he considers family, so the wraith saw the determination he had and decided to see how long he'd survive as a runner, either that or he kept breaking out of cocoons and cells so they gave him the freedom he wanted but at a price
The wraith can sense peoples strength by feeding on them, and that's about as far as it goes. They probably sensed his particularly good physical condition and overall systems health/resilience. But I think the writers were trying to setup a more meaningful reason (like how we see the drug that keeps the wraith from feeding on people), but they likely didn't get around to it and didn't bother going any deeper with Ronin. You have to keep in mind that many of these episodes were written almost on the fly, so people were banging around idea's, and some got chosen, some got fleshed out, some got buried, or meshed into other story arcs. So the story arc for Sateda was to be that they were immune to feeding, which is why the wraith destroyed them. But since Sateda was destroyed and they couldn't really build an episode around immunity with just Ronin, they wanted to flesh it out more with the planet of people who discovered the drug, especially since they needed the drug to have dire side effects (like killing most people who take it). It's just a bigger story arc that way.
PS they should have him under blankets due to the chills that come from detox .. Why no nurses standing by to do the cold compresses and to give him something to drink ? He'll dehydrate during this
They use more leather in state mental hospitals and they also have a neck waist and knee straps while they inject you with 150 cc's of haloperidol, but only if you have bludgeoned half the staff and unit or throw a ornament orange over the fence and knock abusive staff member of his kawasaki ninja as he's coming back from lunch. Remember me JEFF? xD
hi guys and girls sometimes you just got to go tru this and i just makes you stronger in the end some drugs are just that way and added to them makes harder to fight untill this goes thru your system there is no counter drug. to fight it with God's help you must overcome.
When I was a teenager I suffered caffeine addiction Because at the time I was always tired and I didn't get any proper sleep but it was hell trying not to drink a bottle of cola I suffered from stress because I was withdrawling from it and it was hard
This is the episode I dont really understand - he even said previously that they tried to feed on him and he made them stop and then all of a sudden they're taking his life and returning it repeatedly.
This was when the writers realized Jason can act. Before this he always had a few words here & there per episode.
It's not like they have him more character to act though. He was accepted on the show for his brutal looks and moves, and that's pretty much all that was of him even in more detailed episodes about sateda.
...You guys do realize he was a professional actor way before Atlantis, right?
You realise being professional about doesn't mean you can act, right?
@@Bradley_UA ...gotta crawl before you can walk...
I love how Jason’s quintessential arm tattoo is never covered up in any of his acting roles. 🖤
Early eps it does. They wrote it into the script
@@tmofee i read that he got in in the middle of the season without permission, so they wrote in a scene where he got the tattoo in character
He got a tatoo? :o
This is where Woolsey goes to his quarters and changes into a suit and tie and John comes by and ask weren't you going to change into something more comfortable .. Woolsey says this is more comfortable
I thought it was Teyla.
It was a great ending ....all was right with the world ...and great music to ....
@@icwiz It happened with Tayla and shepherd, only shepherd had a drink and a cigar with him.
It's true, a snugly fitting suit is very comfortable. Also very expensive.
3:05 stargate fans when we all realized they weren't gonna continue universe or bring back Atlantis or SG-1
Universe? Yuck. Im pretty sure we are all glad that shit show didn't continue.
@@draknarr2313 Early Universe was bad, but it found its bearings by the end and was a good show. I was sad to see it go.
@@Carbonific same
@@draknarr2313 SG-1 season 1 was kind of crap too, you grow to love it. Atlantis was always good tho
nice comment.. universe was some desperate space wifes shit tho but wtf r u guys talkin about? sg1 season 1 was the best of all of em. u might be pretty young arent u
Waking up to Rodney's blabbering LOL
As if he hadn't suffered enough
So that is why he asked John to kill him.
This actually hurt watching this....Jason Momoa can really act.
I have to wonder if Jason knew someone irl that had an opiate problem, he did a pretty accurate portrayal of a person having severe opiate withdrawal. Had I not been a SG fan & tuned in to parts of this with no context I'd have assumed that's what this was about.
I've never been able to rage like that during a withdrawal though lol
@@ingainloggningsnamn Well, he was addicted to Wraith enzyme. I'm sure Wraith enzyme if it was real would have far worse withdrawl effects than Earth drugs.
Wraith enzyme is a hell of a drug
Something the Wraith used on their victims to make the feeding process last a lot longer.
Just imagine a vampire using a regenerative formula on a human to double their healing factor. But this kind is addictive, like methamphetamine only the drawback is bigger.
Yep it really messed up Aiden Ford.
And this isnt the first time he had the enzyme
A great ending with great music ..."broken ties" e everybody is in thier place...and they lived happily ever after ----till the next episode
when you're a smoker and on a 10 hour flight
LOOOOVE that the doors don't start to open until everyone else stands up. Poor old Dick. Atlantis's main computer doesn;'t like him much (yet)
It's like watching an addict going through withdrawals... painful to watch, but much needed.
Been there done that
@@jamesoppy8146 did you survive or live?
@@lumberluc live barely
@@jamesoppy8146
I know that getting off of the drugs is difficult but you will get through this I know you can🙏🙏🙏🙏
Jason Momoa is my favorite actor! This scene is intense! I never got this far in Stargate Atlantis. But my favorite Jason Momoa scene is from Frontier, season 1.
It's weird seeing almost no comments about his acting skills. I thought he was doing a great job.
The episodes are streaming on Amazon prime.
@@Actionnelll and hulu. But its better on my dvds.
The reason i love him in this show is because he acts more like himself. He is cool but badass.
Thanks for posing. I really enjoy the nostalgia trip.
Did Mamoa ever get asked about this scene? I'd love to watch/read about this from all the cast but him in particular.
Jewel Staite a cute.
All that thrashing makes me wonder why they only restrain his wrists and ankles. A single belt across the chest, or two smaller ones near the shoulders, would help a lot with preventing accidental concussions.
Then again, it’s kinda hard to get that visceral image of rage and desperation if the person's fully immobile. 🤷♂️
A restraint over there can chafe or worse constrict airflow and blood flow if he thrashes about too aggressively.
You restrain somewhere there and it's hard to breathe
But what about the upper arms just below the shoulders? 🤔
@@UGNAvalon Anything that restricts chest movement for long periods, especially in a psychotic (or similar) individual that is struggling like that can be pretty dangerous. That's why the "restraint chairs" used in corrections are so controversial. They can and have caused deaths. A better option would have been to sedate the shit out of him. Medically induced coma until the enzyme levels dropped. Supportive care until then
@@jakeg3733 Doesn't a high dose of the enzyme render one resistant to Wraith stunners? Maybe it also affects sedation.
Man he looks alot like Lobo in this scene 3:28
Love Jason momoa love star gate selina 🎶🌹❤️
Fantastic episode ....great ending ...broken ties by joel goldsmith
RIP Eubulon.
drugs are bad, mkay..
Mckay 🤔😜
M'kaaay
Okay I get why his friend had to be put cold turkey because they needed him quickly but why the hell couldn't they actually just give Ronin some sedatives to help him through it easier? I didn't get that part.
I think that when you have enzyme in your blood sedatives don't work. Ad least that was with Ford in Sidge patr 3. Dr. Beckett put in him enugh sedatives to put him in induced coma but he was still runing around.
It is how I understunad that pary. Mayby I'm wrong.
Also, sedatives can also become addicting, and given that they're dealing with someone who was just addicted to something pretty serious, that's the last thing they wanted to risk. Also, we have no idea how long it took for Ronan to come back, it could've been a few hours, a few days, even a few weeks for all we know. Also, there are multiple SG teams at Atlantis by this point, with Shepherds team a man down, other teams can fill the gaps as needed.
That's true. It's common practice to give detoxing addicts some sort of sedative to get through the worse parts of it rather than forcing them to go cold turkey. Withdrawal can literally kill you.
The Wraith enzyme itself is 'designed' to keep the victim alive and active throughout the feeding process. The worst of it wouldn't have killed Ronon, but it also wouldn't have left any room for sedation. Really messed up.
Simple. It makes for better drama. :-)
Idk if the writers forgot but when Ronans character was introduced in 2x03 he said the wraith stopped feeding on him and made him a runner instead. Although there r several theories why this is, nothing is concrete. Fans assumed he was immune to wraith feeding until this episode happened. Which brings up some confusion. Was he immune to wraith feeding and the writers forgot or didn't care about that piece of detail? Did the writers just abandon that idea of immunization? Did the wraith stop because he was strong enough to become a runner and improve the wraith hunting skills? Did the wraith not find ronan tasteful when feeding? As I said, many theories and sadly the writers on stargate atlantis still haven't shed any light on this so we are never gonna get an actual concrete answer. So, What's your guys' opinion on this?
chloe wickert from my understanding they made him a runner because he was stronger than the rest so they wanted to hunt him for sport.
Yeah I also think they just did it for the lols, considering how concerned the Wraith we're by the existence of the Hoffen drug survivors I doubt they would take the chance and release somebody that is immune to feeding.
I personally like to think that he was always the absolute survival machine you see from his introduction to the end of the series and the only time he becomes a "softer" person is when he's with people he considers family, so the wraith saw the determination he had and decided to see how long he'd survive as a runner, either that or he kept breaking out of cocoons and cells so they gave him the freedom he wanted but at a price
The wraith can sense peoples strength by feeding on them, and that's about as far as it goes. They probably sensed his particularly good physical condition and overall systems health/resilience. But I think the writers were trying to setup a more meaningful reason (like how we see the drug that keeps the wraith from feeding on people), but they likely didn't get around to it and didn't bother going any deeper with Ronin. You have to keep in mind that many of these episodes were written almost on the fly, so people were banging around idea's, and some got chosen, some got fleshed out, some got buried, or meshed into other story arcs. So the story arc for Sateda was to be that they were immune to feeding, which is why the wraith destroyed them. But since Sateda was destroyed and they couldn't really build an episode around immunity with just Ronin, they wanted to flesh it out more with the planet of people who discovered the drug, especially since they needed the drug to have dire side effects (like killing most people who take it). It's just a bigger story arc that way.
When the Wraith began feeding, he could tell Ronon was stronger in mind & body than most humans, & would be a challenge as a runner.
John Wick vs Ronon. Both killed Tyre. Well Wick did but Tyre suicide bombed the facility.
Me when my parents take away my computer
i love u Jason momoa ur the best actor in the world😍😍😍😍
I would not have put my finger near his mouth knowing he was hungry.
PS they should have him under blankets due to the chills that come from detox .. Why no nurses standing by to do the cold compresses and to give him something to drink ? He'll dehydrate during this
my man Jason is the best actor n the best man in the whole entire world😍😍😍
wrex
Looks a lot like coming down from oxy the hard way.
4:15 😆😄
They use more leather in state mental hospitals and they also have a neck waist and knee straps while they inject you with 150 cc's of haloperidol, but only if you have bludgeoned half the staff and unit or throw a ornament orange over the fence and knock abusive staff member of his kawasaki ninja as he's coming back from lunch. Remember me JEFF? xD
What's is going to be Morgan ? Kill me or set me free ?
How did they keep him from soiling the bed?
They cleaned it up.
that's what we're supposed to take away from this
4:49 John????
Sheppard doesn't like that brand of coffee 😂
That's why I love Joe Flannigan as Sheppard cuz even when he's not directly on camera he's still funny.
jin khal fin vos dothralat ajjin vo khal
What episode is that
Broken Ties
hi guys and girls sometimes you just got to go tru this and i just makes you stronger in the end some drugs are just that way and added to them makes harder to fight untill this goes thru your system there is no counter drug. to fight it with God's help you must overcome.
When I was a teenager I suffered caffeine addiction
Because at the time I was always tired and I didn't get any proper sleep but it was hell trying not to drink a bottle of cola
I suffered from stress because I was withdrawling from it and it was hard
Wait hold up. Wasn't the whole reason Ronon was turned into a runner because the Wraith couldn't feed on him?
i believe they were brainwashing/torturing him with the enzyme
It wasnt feeding it was more for sport. The hoffan drug survivors couldnt be fed upon.
I think they turned him into a runner because they realized how strong he was and how hunting him would be a greater challenge.
Is that the dude from iron chef?
today's secret ingredient is....WRAITH ENZYME
@@enticingmuffin Yes, It is the same actor.
And yet it seems like these days all JM does is the "dude" roles. Too bad.
Ronon the smackhead lol
This is the episode I dont really understand - he even said previously that they tried to feed on him and he made them stop and then all of a sudden they're taking his life and returning it repeatedly.
Why didn’t they just stun him ?
Might slow down his recovery if he isn’t using it up from his body. But I wouldn’t know for sure.
Just say no ronon
3:20 -ish unrealistic that there isn't puke all over the place. :-(
transfusion maybe? :P