IS HE A CHEATER? OR NOT?

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    On the stream, I was biased towards this player since he has a VAC ban in his profile, but after watching the recording, I realized that everything is not so clear here. And what do you think? Write your thoughts in the comments! #saveL4D2
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  • @noskillch
    @noskillch  2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks to Supporters! ua-cam.com/users/noskillchjoin
    More videos with cheaters ua-cam.com/play/PL6KSwmL_i7dDRIKcWY96NLN1y0rbDIqQP.html

  • @imnicked4185
    @imnicked4185 11 місяців тому +528

    Its rare to find closet cheaters on l4d2, its almost always the blatant ones, you can tell he's trying to hide it but his aim gives it away

    • @Boopy357
      @Boopy357 11 місяців тому +44

      Lot of them are Asians lol. I know of one guy who only hid recently since I think he's only been caught but for a long time he was even posting highlights and had his profile on public. Now no one can find his account and he refuses to explain anything despite being clearly shit at the game.

    • @Radiation580
      @Radiation580 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@Boopy357im asian but im clean playing left4dead

    • @Boopy357
      @Boopy357 11 місяців тому +14

      @@Radiation580 good for you but know that the guys who claim to be "pubsnipers" likely cheat. I'd avoid Dark Carnival since that is where they seem to all hang out

    • @Radiation580
      @Radiation580 11 місяців тому

      @@Boopy357 bro i also seen many players cheat like wallhack, aimbot,, im be like why they cant play clean ?? Omg

    • @doggoadexx2680
      @doggoadexx2680 11 місяців тому +9

      @@Boopy357ik ur basing your claim on statistics but let’s not assume most of them are Asians.

  • @stephhalen3726
    @stephhalen3726 11 місяців тому +172

    Thanks for the subtitles, they're really helpful in understanding what's going on.

  • @tgnm9615
    @tgnm9615 11 місяців тому +135

    I love his insight of identifying a potential cheater with his knowledge and experience. He analysed every bit of the suspect's action before calling him a cheater.

  • @DFD3ADP00L
    @DFD3ADP00L 11 місяців тому +226

    Alexey: destroyer of the infected and the savior of the survivors.

    • @EddyQTooReal
      @EddyQTooReal 11 місяців тому +2

      corny🤣

    • @xrosshair26
      @xrosshair26 11 місяців тому +2

      You praise him too much

    • @NoobyG13
      @NoobyG13 7 місяців тому

      ​@@xrosshair26try getting on his level and see if the praise is too much for you just saying...

    • @Somespideronline
      @Somespideronline 7 місяців тому

      ​@@xrosshair26 womp womp

    • @LouisIsntGaming
      @LouisIsntGaming 6 місяців тому

      Woomp woomp

  • @eighttwd663
    @eighttwd663 11 місяців тому +35

    - He is cheater or hack?
    - Yes

  • @Suiseisocute
    @Suiseisocute 11 місяців тому +72

    24:52 - 25:04 The message from Alexey: The vultures are gathering, they circle over your pathetic cheaters

  • @noskillch
    @noskillch  11 місяців тому +256

    Watch the video in full before drawing conclusions
    The most suspicious moments (look at the speed of 0.25):
    14:29 - Aimlock?
    15:01 - He keeps looking in the direction of the Jockey, but there is no one in that place
    15:28 - Aimlock?
    17:04 - Aimlock?
    I think it's not even close to his aim at the c1m2 (3:51, 4:53)
    17:12 - He turns around so slowly, as if he's looking at where the special infected are
    19:35 - Jockey from nowhere? "Tick base manipulation" allows you to appear right next to the survivors, even if they see you
    20:33 - I don't know, but it sounded like he appeared right on my head
    But of course it can be problems with sound, it's Left 4 Dead 2
    The cherry on the cake is that he has a VAC ban, he received it 170 days ago.
    Do we believe?

    • @d1szi
      @d1szi 11 місяців тому +31

      its obvious that he cheated knowing all the SI spawning near him and the aimlock is another level( spec him and u'll see how fast he turns ) for him

    • @CPT_John_Price1551
      @CPT_John_Price1551 11 місяців тому +11

      20:33 I think it jumped on your head from the top floor

    • @ryuk6750
      @ryuk6750 11 місяців тому +15

      @@CPT_John_Price1551 When someone jumps on top of you, the sound gradually approaches, here it feels like he just appeared on noskillch, or appeared in flight close to noskillch, which is impossible, without cheats ofc. He used exactly the same cheat function here 19:35 O_o

    • @brandonflores6224
      @brandonflores6224 11 місяців тому +3

      At 8:10 he is definitely cheating!! He spawned right behind you with smoker, you can here him spawn in then shoot his tongue out, two different sound queues.

    • @noskillch
      @noskillch  11 місяців тому +21

      @@brandonflores6224 I think he appeared on the floor above, there was broken glass, it was heard how he jumped on the escalator

  • @eighttwd663
    @eighttwd663 11 місяців тому +15

    Everyone:"He is cheater or hack?"
    Alexey: "Owned!"

  • @johnallen6281
    @johnallen6281 9 місяців тому +8

    I think what makes l4d so great is the fact that even if someone is cheating. There still is that chance that your infected is just better and you still win the game

  • @shifty7806
    @shifty7806 11 місяців тому +76

    your the only guy to keep me coming back to this game Godspeed to you brah

    • @TheRealNickZ
      @TheRealNickZ 11 місяців тому

      I downloaded it on my Xbox because of noskillch. I'm tempted to buy live

  • @Knavery665
    @Knavery665 11 місяців тому +6

    23:23
    “Please just don’t hang”
    *immediately starts hanging*

  • @Jono_93
    @Jono_93 11 місяців тому +20

    Is that why they team killed him? Because even his teammates suspected cheats, is that what they were talking about in the chat?

    • @khai3640
      @khai3640 11 місяців тому +18

      Yes, they dont like cheater, love them

    • @StockpileThomas1
      @StockpileThomas1 11 місяців тому +8

      they were probably watching stream

  • @HeyItsKeep
    @HeyItsKeep 11 місяців тому +24

    He just has a better gaming chair man, idk.

  • @Veyxz1n
    @Veyxz1n 11 місяців тому +21

    tbh the way you snipe i started to snipe more and more thank you man

  • @fender8372
    @fender8372 11 місяців тому +66

    12:42 Alex's quick thinking is impressive. Having to choose whether to help Roshelle or Ellis he instantly makes the right choice and saves Ellis from incap, because Roshelle is impossible to save in time anyway.
    Truly THE God of this game in any aspect.

    • @perded0rsit0
      @perded0rsit0 11 місяців тому +31

      you must have 0 time reaction to think that is quick thinking

    • @camyeagerr
      @camyeagerr 11 місяців тому +25

      @@perded0rsit0 yeah he is glazing lmao

    • @Oscylot88
      @Oscylot88 2 місяці тому +1

      @@perded0rsit0 This is the type of guy that ends up on my team 😢

  • @Boopy357
    @Boopy357 11 місяців тому +40

    Most definitely dry cheating lol. The wallbangs aren't sus, the fact that he lands 100% of jockey shots with an AK while it's crossing over and superjumping is just nuts

    • @ConnorPie
      @ConnorPie 11 місяців тому +8

      Yeah and hes overwhelmed with it, i think he panicked so even tho jockey died, he kept shooting out of pure panic.

  • @Tristnlol
    @Tristnlol 11 місяців тому +4

    I love that I randomly found ur channel this year bc I've played l4d2 since I was a child but always wondered just how good someone could get if they wanted to,

  • @nickr8662
    @nickr8662 10 місяців тому +2

    The way he was snapping to zombies 180 degrees behind him and shooting the charger that was still in spawning mode that make me call him out.

  • @HardStry
    @HardStry 11 місяців тому +5

    There are some people who plays with cheats so much they know how to Hide them well

  • @ItsAsparageese
    @ItsAsparageese 11 місяців тому +28

    Before this video, I had no real idea how to tell if someone was cheating (unless it's super obvious, like speedhacks/teleporting, or if their crosshair is jumping around to every infected). Now ... I have concluded that I REALLY have no real idea how to tell if someone is cheating unless it's super obvious like those XD It's too subtle for my amateur eye, I need to learn more!

    • @renegadeaverage4162
      @renegadeaverage4162 10 місяців тому

      Thats not a hack in the video. There are people with crazy aim like that.

    • @tennoo160
      @tennoo160 10 місяців тому

      said the closet cheater@@renegadeaverage4162

    • @husaini8009
      @husaini8009 9 місяців тому +3

      @@renegadeaverage4162 ppl with crazy aim? Yea they exist. Ppl with crazy "snappy" aim with no spray on an automatic rifle? Yea they also exist like this guy, tho only with the help of cheats

    • @renegadeaverage4162
      @renegadeaverage4162 9 місяців тому

      @@husaini8009 No cheats. Thats called skill. You dont rlly know how hacks look?

    • @Xenorvya
      @Xenorvya 8 місяців тому +1

      @@renegadeaverage4162 Either that, which I doubt, or he is a cheater. Because he's got a vac ban according to noskillch.

  • @domshock7554
    @domshock7554 11 місяців тому +9

    Уважение этой команде за вклад в борьбу с читерством

  • @bxnyca845
    @bxnyca845 11 місяців тому +25

    I haven’t played L4D2 in a while but some of his flicks and wall bangs did look a little suspicious, but, they could be just that, flicks and wall bangs from prior game knowledge. But then again the VAC ban isn’t helping his case in any way

    • @husaini8009
      @husaini8009 9 місяців тому +2

      I'm pretty sure the guy is cheating with snappy aim and no spray on an automatic rifle, but let us all not be biased by VAC ban record. Even noskill has VAC ban

  • @robrick9361
    @robrick9361 11 місяців тому +3

    Aimlock? ❌
    Wallhack? ❌
    Gaming Chair? ✅

  • @LilGuyG_
    @LilGuyG_ 11 місяців тому +21

    I'm not really in the L4D community, But I do go back and play a campaign now and then, its so damn fun. However I never really understood the purpose of wanting or needing to cheat in a game like this? Are there leaderboards or ranks to climb? If not then what's the incentive?

    • @leandrogoslean889
      @leandrogoslean889 11 місяців тому +15

      People with a frail ego or they just want to ruin the game for the enemy team, that's it, people saying something else are just coping.

    • @joeJOE-zy7rw
      @joeJOE-zy7rw 11 місяців тому

      no leaderboards, no ranks, just meant for fun.

  • @crankybanky
    @crankybanky 11 місяців тому +1

    literally after watching your videos i have gotten better at versus, thanks!👍👍👍

  • @ZeeAndZuzygaming
    @ZeeAndZuzygaming 11 місяців тому +8

    when noskillch posts you already know its gonna be a good video

  • @Loogi745
    @Loogi745 11 місяців тому +2

    I love seeing teamwork on the infected side, it's just fascinating to see for some reason

  • @x2147483647
    @x2147483647 11 місяців тому +7

    hes a closet cheater for sure, but when it comes to his aimbot, it seems like he toggles it on and off to seem less suspicious.

  • @Knavery665
    @Knavery665 11 місяців тому +4

    Babe wake up, noskillch just posted a new video

  • @g80gzt
    @g80gzt 11 місяців тому +11

    Up until you said VAC ban 170 days ago, my thoughts have been on it being indistinguishable. I see flicks that seem almost *too* clean, but I've also seen you get a very nice in-the-zone moment with mousecam, so I can't exactly ascribe that from a spectator camera on a 14 year old game. But he also seems to be missing sometimes, and they're taking moments between shots, processing and aiming. Not constant flicks to exact locations and shots.
    He also keeps looking around, not even near specials (spawned or ghosts), and mistook where some were. Doesn't seem wallhacky.
    And then they began slipping and showing aimlocks. Combined with a vac ban, I think they're using cheats, but subtly as opposed to blatantly.

    • @moebino2685
      @moebino2685 11 місяців тому

      probably the cheater was turning his cheats on and off from times to times

  • @e69alpha
    @e69alpha 11 місяців тому +1

    "please don't hang"
    lmao yyour face

  • @lilquacky
    @lilquacky 11 місяців тому +1

    Less gooo, btw luv the 3D preview, nice detail 😮😂

  • @ivan_king_panters8530
    @ivan_king_panters8530 10 місяців тому

    Чувак, прикольные видео делаешь. Удачи в карьере

  • @rayojuaquin
    @rayojuaquin 10 місяців тому +5

    Por lo menos en vanilla (donde yo juego) los cheaters suelen ser muy descarados, te das cuenta a primera vista que traen algo raro, pero viendo esto me doy cuenta de que algunos saben ocultarlo mas, tendre que prestar mas atención la próxima vez que juegue.

  • @JxJx2005
    @JxJx2005 11 місяців тому

    i love nick's reactions to getting shot by his teammates

  • @NICXedits
    @NICXedits 11 місяців тому +5

    Wtf cheaters in a game of zombies, no way hahaha

  • @srmiojao6674
    @srmiojao6674 11 місяців тому +1

    Alexey thx for the vid, i love them

  • @cristiangeraldo9606
    @cristiangeraldo9606 5 місяців тому

    POV: you left your friends to die in a apocalypse
    noskillch: nah bro I saved myself the extra supplies
    😂❤

  • @SaigoProxing
    @SaigoProxing 11 місяців тому

    The normal thing is that hackers are so brazen to the point of not knowing how to configure them to really hide them, and a minimum part that seeks to configure them well, but do not know how to hide them, this is one of those types, the fact that he starts shooting or already has his sights on the target before peeking out gives it away completely.

  • @Suiseisocute
    @Suiseisocute 11 місяців тому +1

    3:18 The message from Alexey: My plan worked perfectly, you will no match for me

  • @shloopa__6495
    @shloopa__6495 11 місяців тому

    Очень интересно кушать и смотреть твои ролики , удачи тебе!

  • @OKDIBE1
    @OKDIBE1 7 місяців тому

    if i got jumpscared like you do i would jump through the roof

  • @romeorosos1849
    @romeorosos1849 7 місяців тому +1

    3:18 i didnt know you can trigger hunter pounce without holding crouch

  • @GravityDisruptor25
    @GravityDisruptor25 10 місяців тому +1

    I used to be a 360 player, while watching the video, he is indeed, A cheater, I've come across so many, its easy to tell, the wall flicks, knowing where infected are, and seamlessly instant flick to a common and special

  • @angel488
    @angel488 11 місяців тому +3

    Imagine being a cheater in a very old game like l4d2

  • @dylanpaloma4499
    @dylanpaloma4499 11 місяців тому +1

    this guy is so skilled at l4d2 bro

  • @GioFinee
    @GioFinee 11 місяців тому

    мдэ реклама в браузерном Ютубе появилась , непривычно видос смотреть

  • @potassiumchloride5492
    @potassiumchloride5492 Місяць тому

    23:22
    -только не повисни, пожалуйста.
    23:26
    -повис
    😂😂😂

  • @luciano.zabalazabala6817
    @luciano.zabalazabala6817 5 місяців тому

    bruh this man has lot of patient

  • @Duna-sol
    @Duna-sol 11 місяців тому

    I was wanting to touch l4d2 thats been rotting in my machines storage but after seeing this im probably going to not touch it but still this is good content in my inbox i enjoy so good for you

  • @user-lo3uh8jo9u
    @user-lo3uh8jo9u 6 місяців тому

    "Иди сюда, сладенький мой"

  • @OgSwisszyed
    @OgSwisszyed 11 місяців тому

    Nice game m8, and nice s12

  • @ascended2zero
    @ascended2zero 2 місяці тому

    even cheaters cant beat noskillch🗿🗿

  • @AINAQULAQ
    @AINAQULAQ 11 місяців тому

    Лучшая концовка 😂

  • @srmiojao6674
    @srmiojao6674 11 місяців тому +7

    Bro cured my depression love your channel ❤

  • @lilquacky
    @lilquacky 11 місяців тому +2

    I keep trying to chat like its live but realize there is no chat 😢

  • @sebastianmorante2258
    @sebastianmorante2258 7 місяців тому

    Naaaa the kill of 22:10 is beatiful, this art

  • @A-random-duck
    @A-random-duck 11 місяців тому +8

    He’s not cheating he just has a good gaming chair

  • @nobody.3792
    @nobody.3792 11 місяців тому

    Концовка порадовала :D

  • @noskill_just_luck8415
    @noskill_just_luck8415 11 місяців тому

    Ну видео конечно зачёт❤️‍🔥

  • @r1ggtoscp
    @r1ggtoscp 11 місяців тому

    Hey dude, can u make more guides for versus?

  • @zygardiongamez0228
    @zygardiongamez0228 11 місяців тому +5

    Here's something to remember. He may seem like a good player but here's the thing,
    Good players make better cheaters. Just because he's good, doesn't necessarily mean all his gameplay is legit. I feel he did turn on cheats every now and then cuz he thought he was clear but hey, that's my opinion

  • @makdoles
    @makdoles 11 місяців тому

    Ха-ха-ха, оказывается я играл с тобой вместе с другом на тренере... Только сейчас мне вылезло это в рекомендациях.
    Ha-ha-ha, it turns out that I played with you together with a friend on the coach ... Only now I got this in the recommendations.

  • @gnpushik7667
    @gnpushik7667 9 місяців тому

    Туда его. Норм концовка)

  • @JaredOliver-fl5mt
    @JaredOliver-fl5mt 8 місяців тому

    noskillch is the most scariest hacker destroyer of all time

  • @SandPoot
    @SandPoot 9 місяців тому

    What if you made binds to instruct players on what to do more, such as "hold space to drop down here"

  • @dechmusic
    @dechmusic 8 місяців тому

    23:50 Nick:"Everyone into the car!"
    23:57 Typical Nick

  • @oneframe120fps
    @oneframe120fps 2 місяці тому

    4:30 сайлент ахахахахаххахаххаххах как леха не заметил

  • @JazunOwO
    @JazunOwO 11 місяців тому

    Make sure to turn on subtitles people

  • @izenia8132
    @izenia8132 11 місяців тому

    cool ending lol

  • @Doctor_Sex
    @Doctor_Sex 11 місяців тому

    On one second, I thought it's me

  • @user-jh2xi7cc6b
    @user-jh2xi7cc6b 9 місяців тому

    Даже и не пытается скрывать это

  • @dechmusic
    @dechmusic 8 місяців тому

    Спасибо за видос.
    Подскажи пожалуйста:
    - зачем ты взмахиваешь рукой за курильщика перед выпуском языка? Это обманный манёвр "антимилишка"?
    - Для чего плюёшь плевальщицей именно в прыжке?

    • @noskillch
      @noskillch  8 місяців тому

      Что бы быстро не убили

  • @hafizgv
    @hafizgv 11 місяців тому +1

    Yeah another video

  • @oaksattelite9330
    @oaksattelite9330 11 місяців тому

    new video finally

  • @lostskull7467
    @lostskull7467 11 місяців тому

    I love how not even with cheats they can't own the infected 🤣

  • @DoktorMerc
    @DoktorMerc 9 місяців тому

    I wanna know how you play like that, is there a reason behind you jumping or clawing before using their special ability?
    Because I want tips and tricks on how to be a better Special Infected player

  • @BirikinPrimary
    @BirikinPrimary 11 місяців тому

    I'd say the backwards jockey jump is dead giveaway

  • @Suiseisocute
    @Suiseisocute 11 місяців тому +3

    :shelterin:

  • @coolkon12
    @coolkon12 11 місяців тому

    Skill over hacks will always prevail if you use it correctly.

  • @Blaze0-11
    @Blaze0-11 11 місяців тому +1

    bro love your vids don’t stop till u die 💀❤🤭

  • @romeorosos1849
    @romeorosos1849 7 місяців тому

    how did you know there was a tank

  • @ScanTheMan
    @ScanTheMan 11 місяців тому +1

    ily

  • @midoritranslationchannel
    @midoritranslationchannel 11 місяців тому

    @noskillch
    At 2:17 to 2:18
    You can see his "aiming" locking so fast like nobody can do that irl (probably snap aim or something but still something went off...)

  • @hightierdemon4106
    @hightierdemon4106 10 місяців тому

    How does he pounce so quickly with hunter? It usually takes me a second or two while holding ctrl.

  • @milangadriver822
    @milangadriver822 11 місяців тому +3

    I think the guy activates and desactivates the aimbot that's my opinion

  • @BasicSteamUser
    @BasicSteamUser 5 місяців тому

    He's at least using wall hax at 4:28 because that wall he shoots the charger through you can't usually shoot through like other walls

  • @JokoKangaroo
    @JokoKangaroo 8 місяців тому

    Я уж думал это inc)

  • @Piedrero44
    @Piedrero44 7 місяців тому

    Ami me paso algo similar en enfrentamiento un hacker que se la tiraba de ser muy pro en una de las partidas se puso como jockey no lo escuche en ningun lado nomas lo veo como aparecio me incapacito y me tiro fuera del mapa todo bugueado

  • @amirtemur6872
    @amirtemur6872 11 місяців тому

    I'm learning a lot of tricks

  • @Morose92
    @Morose92 11 місяців тому +1

    How's the meta these days? I used to play a lot waaay back, but haven't seen some stuff like that jump > crouch > wallkick fast pounce before. That one's nifty and I like it. Has the cheese factor gotten very high though? Like basically skipping certain events or important hit spots with movement tech? I imagine the games are even more one sided with how long survivors have had to math out bhop routing and stuff.
    The infected teamwork is solid in your videos though, you love to see it

    • @thevoyagerv4499
      @thevoyagerv4499 11 місяців тому +2

      First thing you say is strange, because that trick is from L4D1. TLS removed many skips (coaster for example) in versus, some skips remain (bhop over parade, Parish chapter 4).
      All the 4000 hour or whatever players still use snipers and sword/fireaxe/machete and don't touch anything else.
      CS weapons are all bad, only the scout rifle is tolerable. There is a small community (i say that loosely) of closet cheaters who mostly play Dark Carnival.

    • @Morose92
      @Morose92 11 місяців тому +1

      Honestly, I neglected my infected side and never pushed high enough into comp for it to matter. As long as the hunting rifle and bullshit hondas connected and I sufficiently trolled as support specials, my friends were happy lol. I was worried the game became somewhat uninteractive, I'll have to reinstall and grind my way back out of votekick territory

    • @thevoyagerv4499
      @thevoyagerv4499 11 місяців тому

      Oh yh you remind me that's a thing I forgot to mention, it's still a votekick mania, even in campaign. You don't know a certain skip, skill, you breathe the wrong way, you fart, they kick lmao, i would stay away from comp modes for a while@@Morose92

    • @Syydontmiss
      @Syydontmiss 11 місяців тому +1

      No meta whatsoever besides melee as a survivor

  • @darken2295
    @darken2295 9 місяців тому

    buen video uwu

  • @MiHiFiDi
    @MiHiFiDi 8 місяців тому

    That is known as "Aimlock" automatically target on the closest S.I. , that dude is an obvius cheater.
    the funniest thing is that he can't even clean the horde with his "Aimlock" because that crap is blocking him to shot correctly a lot of targets 😂

  • @eighttwd663
    @eighttwd663 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice!

  • @chekase
    @chekase 11 місяців тому

    как же он ташит )))

  • @FatheredPuma81
    @FatheredPuma81 11 місяців тому +3

    Pretty poor job at closet cheating. Wasting ammo on every single common miles away because of a poorly configured aimbot and flicking back and fourth at doors in an attempt to hide his wallhacks.

  • @hellion0591
    @hellion0591 11 місяців тому

    6 minutes in and it really looks like he has an aimbot.

  • @lightgamer6380
    @lightgamer6380 11 місяців тому +2

    Hi Noskillach

  • @doggoadexx2680
    @doggoadexx2680 11 місяців тому

    U can’t really tell from a spectator bc it’s the speed & timing is not the same as in-game