What strikes me is that she might feel this pull towards House because he wants nothing from her, iot, he wants nothing "to do with her". From her standpoint, he represents a safe space.
@felgper01 you know what, I think you are spot on. He made it clear from the get go he want's nothing to do with her, he's not interested in her, does not want to know her because she is healthy and he is not interested in the healthy, only the physically sick. This get's her brain sending out signals that this is a safe man to be around because he is not going to hurt her or try to get to her talk about the incident or pressure her in any way because she knows he has no interest in her. This makes her feel completely safe and that is extremely important to her. Her subconscious is saying it is safe to be around House but her subconscious is not communicating this to her brain hence why she keeps saying 'I don't know' when Houses ask her why does she want him to be the doctor attending to her.
@@dodgem259 @dodgem259 You and @felgper01 are correct. She senses safety from him in his brutal honesty. She senses he's not going to BS her then turn around and try to get in her pants, like so many do who pretend to care at first. We need people to believe in. If we don't have someone, even just one person we can believe in, we die either physically or metaphorically - or we turn into hard, ugly people, always in defense mode, believing in no one.
I love that expression of pure curiosity when she screams at house, he's not even thinking about what just happened, he's analyzing what caused that reaction to begin with
@@alphacode5your missing the point, he’s an actor in a show that’s why he responded that way. Any real doctor will just lock you up or kick you out for outbursts like that regardless if they’re justified
@@PuddingTaToRnAtOr I think you're kinda missing the point if you watch House MD to see real doctor reactions, it's a show about a guy that hates people and only becomes a doctor to solve medical mysteries. That's what my comment was about, how that reaction reflects the character perfectly
My favorite thing about House is that his cold indifference to people/patients isn’t because he hates people, it’s just that he actually cares too much. I just wish we could have seen more of a friendship between him and this patient throughout the series
No i think he doesn't care, and the fact that he doesn't makes her 'trust him' since she's so full of self-disgust, he affirms her indifference to herself while also making her feel like she can combat evil itself, i guess it makes her feel strong in a way
he hates people who lie and BS, and almost everyone does that. But when he meets the rare few who are honest with him, his attitude is completely different.
Undoubtedly, this has always been and will always be my absolute favorite episode of the show. Something about how real their interactions were, the conversations they got into. All of it was just so incredible
She wanted to talk to him because he completely understood the assignment from the get-go. Another man who acts the opposite of the others that you dont trust can be a terribly hopeful light you cant turn away from. Edit: masterful writing.
She insisted on talking to him because he is the one who needs help, not her. She is a natural empath who represents House's inner child, he is talking to himself throughout. You are correct about one thing: masterful writing.
@@slamkam07 I agree that it's both, and even more. Every line is open for interpretation from ''the blue curtains represent the unattainable freedom'' to ''the curtains are fucking blue''. If people got a message or have felt something through film as an artform, it's safe to say that it's as personal and as truthful as it gets. 👍
One of the most beautiful women in Hollywood, in my opinion. Did you ever see her on Craig Ferguson's show? Holy crap. She went on offense and flirted her butt off and he didn't know what to do. Hilarious.
The real reason she wants him to treat her is because she sees pain in his eyes. Pain is something others can recognise. It's why she trusts him and why she's trying to connect with him. She wants his answers to how to deal with this pain, to give her the strength to move on.
I don't think that's the reason, from people that I know in similar situations (maybe not r**e but some similarities) is because House is the opposite of the one who did that to her (usually people they know) so fake kindness and those stuff, so House is not only outside of her circle (usually harder to open up with people you care at first) So to sum up House is hostile yet understanding without any fakeness and easier to talk to
The storyline of this episode could have been a story for an oscar nominated drama film. Just imagine this being a full studio film. A doctor and a patient.
That whole interchange was a beautiful illustration of stoicism. It isn't about not caring, it's about recognizing that you can't be everywhere at once and that the thing in front of you might not be the most important thing, no matter how much it seems like it. Sure, House uses this philosophy to keep distance, aloof in his own suffering, but there is also an objective truth in what he's describing. Our sympathy and care doesn't 'belong' to any one particular person, proximate or unknown at a distance. The stoics understood that one's sense of morality comes before action, and even perception. When you know the futility or proper context of your action, only then can you act with compassion and no blindness, no hypocrisy. She saw all that in him; Underneath it all is House's willingness to face the truth of existence and a smart person will always respect that, and trust it.
true. you gotta be selective in what you care about. caring about each random person you meet just means you're burdening yourself with things that aren't your problem. If you're the type to help a person that's cool. I do that sometimes, but that doesn't mean i actually care about the person i helped. once it's done, their outta my mind and im back to just focusing on my business.
I agree as well yeah. There's too much suffering in the world to think about, stress and get depressed about. If we worried every single time we got some bad news, we'd just break down. Its why sometimes whenever I hear awful news about something happening in some part of the world I try to just disconnect myself. While it might be a tragedy, at least I don't wanna be sad about it
From all the interacting, i gather she's very smart. The incident is her handicap, for life. The doctor she talks to is witty and immediately catches her pain from her reaction. And instead of forceful empathy or simping over her, he walk out on her. She knows at a deeper level that nobody else can understand her like he does. He left because he cared, because he's aware it's beyond his capability. It's like a gifted child meeting a grandmaster. The fascination, the intrique, the unanswered questions to life... Maybe it started with a tragedy, but the possibilities brought forward by it, of meeting her spiritual teacher is something she doesn't want to let go.
If someone understands House' implications of irony suggesting a counter 'r*pe' and reaches that conclusion IN A SINGLE SENTENCE?.. she is extremely smart
Luring someone into such an act and not telling them you switch genders... is also considered grape... As under law, the person can't rightfully make a decision if there's deceit.
I think she intuitively recognized that House was different. That he had his own pain to deal with, and therefore she connected with him in a way that she couldn’t put into words, hence her repeated “I don’t know” answers.
I was thinking about this episode last week. Excellent timing. One Day One Room. Really wish this show would come back. Even the doctors who see me for organ failure and the vets who treat my pups loved it. Bought the whole series on DVD. Phenomenal.
House's insistence on not caring about people makes him perhaps the best in the world in differentiating between who you are and what happened to you. Because he wants to care only about what happened, not at all about who you are. In doing that, he's the only one who treats her exactly as he would in any other situation. He's a glimpse of normalcy to her - the thing that's affecting her every moment is irrelevant when she's talking to House. It affects her treatment, not her person. It's a reprieve from her experience, like an oasis in the desert.
No such word as normalcy.... The word is normality..... and yes you will find it in the dictionary.But it is not proper English.... American educational system strikes again 👍
@@PATRICKFRANCIS-bt4hs It's earliest recorded use was in 1855 in a math book, and then used in 1920 during an election race, of which it started to see more use after. At bare minimum it's been a word "normalized" for a hundred years. Plenty of words get created or changed over the years. It's how language works. I'm sure if we look at the "PROPER ENGLISH" of old, you'll find the current iteration of it making liberties or being changed. Good job on making an ass of yourself though.
True, but he's there in a professional capacity. The only issue she has that he can professionally treat is her Chlamydia. He's not trained to help her with the trauma she has, so she really should have a good reason why she wants an MD and not a psychiatrist to treat her. If she wants to just talk, surely she has friends and relatives for that. He could have been treating patients whom he's actually qualified to help. This isn't just an "I don't know why I like to sleep in this position or why I like the color red.", something more mundane.
@LAKnightAuthor the point was that an MD isn't the answer to what is a mental issue. If it had to be a doctor, Dr. Stone was a better fit, but the patient didn't want that.
I think she wanted House because he was the only one who didn't show even a shed of pity. He was cruel and straight forward, no beating around bushes. Statistically speaking, victims don't need pity, they need time and normality to move on from the state of being a victim. Pity is the one thing they keep reminding them that they're victims
I think its moreso that House treated her like a person, not a victim and thats what she really want, just being able to connect with someone and not have them console her or give the "Its not your fault" speech, some people just want to be treated normally and not like something bad happened...even though it did.
I have seen this episode. And its one of the best in Television history, imo. It explores the human condition and vulnerability with smart dialogue and all done earnestly.
One of the major approaches to treating depressive spells is to find distraction in things you don't feel bad or ideally even fell good about. Hobbies, games, and the like. You need to manage that it doesn't become a deleterious escape but just spending that time with your brain not fixated on the issues that triggered the episode helps your brain to quietly process them. Obviously, depression is a complex neurological malady and "just do what makes you happy" isn't going to cure it alone, but it does give credence to the idea that "time" by itself, not focusing on the trauma, will help in the long run.
Speaking from experience, you're right. Being idle and bored holds the door open for depression. Which is what it wants, so it makes you too tired or apathetic to do stuff. But I've found it's almost impossible to have intrusive thoughts while playing an engaging video game, watching a good movie, or working with my hands while listening to music or even at the gym with a semi-decent podcast. Time doesn't always heal but distance always provides perspective.
In my experience, not being able to sit and process something and think about it just leads to it being repressed. Maybe I feel this way because of my ADHD, but I don't know. For as long as I remember, I've been able to overcome and process things if I just give myself the time to cry or be angry instead of distracting myself. Distracting myself just leads to me feeling built-up and unregulated which causes my emotional reaction to be worse than it would've been beforehand. Coping strategies and ways of processing emotions/events differs hugely from person to person. I think having this realisation about how I process things has also made me understand why therapy did not work for me when I was a teenager.
@@dars5229 Years ago a friend I only knew via online gaming admitted to me I had saved him from suicide. He had never even said he was depressed. He did just go missing and never logged on for nearly an entire month and I was genuinely worried for him, and I think perhaps he wanted to play one day and saw the flood of unread messages I had sent asking if he was ok. Now even though we've never met, we're pretty much best friends.
Time and process. She scares him. They both have fear in common so she can borrow from his ego and vice verse. She knows it but she doesn't know what or how she knows it. Confused? It'll sort out.
You guys see that PSP house is using? That's the one the autistic child gave him as a thank you for curing him. House keeps it with him till end of series....
This patient is wrapped in about 6 miles of scar tissue, just like Dr. House..he's perfect person to talk to. If we know anything about House, he understands pain. Both emotional and physical. And that's why I love him.
I dont think anybody else has said it, and I am not reading the comments to figure out if they have. I think she wanted him right away because he recognized what happened to her, and immediately respected her space and boundaries.. It may have made her feel safe in his space that he knew what had happened to her, what her mindset was, didnt judge her, and then tried his best to treat her professionally and 'with care' ... at least as much care as House provides emotionally. She needed that.. to feel safe with at doctor that was not treating her with pity, but by the books.. He is a living book of knowledge.. an inanimate object of 'fix me' that cant and wont hurt her.
Cuddy, Wilson, Cameron, etc.: "How could Dr. House have so little care for his patients??!!!! D: Dr. House: *Nearly falls on his face to help a patient*
@stefangla6878 So, my DVDs only run up to season 4. And whenever I have a streaming service & start watching, I start from the beginning & inevitably get distracted by or before that point too, until I cancel the streaming service. So I've never actually seen any episodes beyond then, despite multiple tries. Lol I've heard that's a really good one, though!
When the doctor said "Pretending this didn't happen is the best thing she could do" to me that felt like bad advice because wouldn't be pretending make the trauma worse by not dealing with it? Then again I'm not a SA victim, so I wouldn't know if this method helps or not.
Yeah definitely not great advice. I was SA'd and I tried to pretend it never happened. That subconscious trauma eventually manifested into physical symptoms, known as FND. I lost the use of my legs, had cognitive issues, and more. I only got physically better as I forced myself to work on my mental trauma. Long story short - everyone's different, but as a rule of thumb, don't ignore your trauma. It'll come back and bite you even harder.
Foreman is usually the one saying & doing the worst things while pretending he has the moral high ground over everyone else. The series ends with him in Cuddy's position, running the hospital, about as bad a job as he can do. Then again, despite Cuddy hiring House & often insisting he's a super-genius, she was often belittling his actions, going behind his back to prevent him from doing his job & playing it safe. TV shows generally do this- treat the main character like a renegade, treat everyone who disagrees with him as if they have some moral superiority yet in the end the main character ends up in the right, everyone else looks like a fool, but no one learns anything so repeat again in the next episode.
That's actually the worst advice that you can give to any victim of trauma. You wouldn't try to heal an open wound by pretending it isn't there, would you? Of course, you wouldn't because #1, you can't because they pain is still there to remind you that it's there and #2, it would get infected if you don't take proper care of it. It's the same with trauma. Processing what happened to you is painful, but you can't heal if you don't take that step.
I disagree. It is true that time is a common factor, but that is a side effect of action and understanding and sometimes emotional desensitization. The only reason time is involved is because that stuff can't happen all at once.
@@jaylambert2838 It seems that way cause you both stumbled upon a philosophical time paradox. Time is an illusion of Space and Velocity, our brains, thought of time, as a concept to explain our perception of reality though all we experience is the state of now. So what I am basically trying to explain is that you are both right from a certain point of view ;D If the passing of time is observer-relevant, is it truly there or just an illusion? and if it's not really there it is not a factor in healing.
Bc he was the only person willing to treat her normally. My friend was the same, she clung to a stranger from the hospital bc she spoke normally to her and didn't treat her like a survivor or a victim or a patient. After a few weeks, it really sunk in and she switched to me and her sister. But she wasn't ready to face that for a few weeks and that's okay. You're allowed a break from reality after that happens to you
Just noticed that everytime he sees her he unties her from the bed, nice touch, he's conisidered the lack of control she has at being bound and testing the ease she has being around him for a way out.
She’s wielding power over him. Knowing his job requires him to acquiesce to her frankly unusual requests. She also wants to dominate the time of the most valuable doctor at the hospital just to “talk”.
Well, at least she is advocating for herself by asking for what she senses could give her the best chance of recovery. That is what the healing profession is supposed to be about - not about getting in line and not asking for what you actually need and passively taking whatever "help" you are given even if it's not what will work for you and you know it. Oh, yes, he's a very busy and important doctor, let's not have an actual patient in actual need actually ask for what they need from those who are tasked with facilitating healing. How dare she "waste his valuable time".
Time dilutes things, i guess :D any one experience becomes a smaller and smaller part of the whole as the whole increases. Not to mention the distance in time from said experience.
In a world where very few people are blatantly honest, House was always straight up truthful. And there's a certain amount of trustworthiness that comes with that.
Misery loves company. If misery sees misery they wonder what justify them to keep going and what tools to use. I know, I have seen kids (9-13 years old) trying trying to comit suicide only wanted to talk with me because they see my suffering.
Take this episode out of the series and it stands by its own as a truly brilliant piece of writing. As someone who was subject to repeat abuse for a number of years I know this to be true.
A man who DOESNT want her for her looks, body, or sex. A man who she WANTS to be around for what she WANTS. To have control in a relationship of her making. She manipulated her situation to get what she wants. In the end she got what she wanted and she was safe.
Really bad messaging. Time and inaction DOES change things - this is how the grieving process goes. Inside we have the resources we need, but they need stillness to come to the surface. Constant action is not a solution, but a distraction...
It's a cry for help not a legitimate suicide attempt. She did it in a hospital where She knew there would be immediate action taken. There was no need to cuff Her to the bed or have Her on a Suicide watch.
Lololol. What's the hospital's excuse when she does the same thing again and dies? Even if something's a cry for help you still have to accept the consequences for your actions
I remember this same stubbornness from a close relative: no matter how hard I tried, he couldn’t even begin to comprehend the importance of talking. “You act with facts, not words”: one who really doesn’t understand the importance of speech
House never wants to get inside anyone. She feels comfortable around him because even though he's cruel, he doesn't want to invade anyone's inner self. He does not want intimacy. Therefore, she does not have to worry about protecting herself from that sort of invasion.
I wonder if what draws her to House is that he is a jerk, but she also knows that he will never intentionally hurt her. He is a safe lab specimen for her to study and come to understand the monster who actually did hurt her.
What strikes me is that she might feel this pull towards House because he wants nothing from her, iot, he wants nothing "to do with her".
From her standpoint, he represents a safe space.
Brilliant. I wouldn't have found out. I think you're the only one who nailed it.
@felgper01 you know what, I think you are spot on. He made it clear from the get go he want's nothing to do with her, he's not interested in her, does not want to know her because she is healthy and he is not interested in the healthy, only the physically sick. This get's her brain sending out signals that this is a safe man to be around because he is not going to hurt her or try to get to her talk about the incident or pressure her in any way because she knows he has no interest in her. This makes her feel completely safe and that is extremely important to her. Her subconscious is saying it is safe to be around House but her subconscious is not communicating this to her brain hence why she keeps saying 'I don't know' when Houses ask her why does she want him to be the doctor attending to her.
@@dodgem259 @dodgem259 You and @felgper01 are correct. She senses safety from him in his brutal honesty. She senses he's not going to BS her then turn around and try to get in her pants, like so many do who pretend to care at first. We need people to believe in. If we don't have someone, even just one person we can believe in, we die either physically or metaphorically - or we turn into hard, ugly people, always in defense mode, believing in no one.
This kind of explains religion also.
We feel pulled towards something that seems safe
@felgper01 Yes, that's what I was thinking too.
I love that expression of pure curiosity when she screams at house, he's not even thinking about what just happened, he's analyzing what caused that reaction to begin with
Insightful, right there.
He is just doing what the director told him to do.
@@qing9367 well yeah, that's his job. I'm saying he did a good job at it
@@alphacode5your missing the point, he’s an actor in a show that’s why he responded that way. Any real doctor will just lock you up or kick you out for outbursts like that regardless if they’re justified
@@PuddingTaToRnAtOr I think you're kinda missing the point if you watch House MD to see real doctor reactions, it's a show about a guy that hates people and only becomes a doctor to solve medical mysteries. That's what my comment was about, how that reaction reflects the character perfectly
My favorite thing about House is that his cold indifference to people/patients isn’t because he hates people, it’s just that he actually cares too much. I just wish we could have seen more of a friendship between him and this patient throughout the series
I think it's cuz he is always in pain from his legs
@@ellevillamor4454 even when he wasn’t in pain from his leg (for like 2 episodes) he was really caring to the patients he saw
No i think he doesn't care, and the fact that he doesn't makes her 'trust him' since she's so full of self-disgust, he affirms her indifference to herself while also making her feel like she can combat evil itself, i guess it makes her feel strong in a way
@@joel6633Not everyone’s that dumb
he hates people who lie and BS, and almost everyone does that. But when he meets the rare few who are honest with him, his attitude is completely different.
Undoubtedly, this has always been and will always be my absolute favorite episode of the show. Something about how real their interactions were, the conversations they got into. All of it was just so incredible
Its also because it was a breath of fresh air considering the usual dinamic of every house episode. It felt different.
She wanted to talk to him because he completely understood the assignment from the get-go. Another man who acts the opposite of the others that you dont trust can be a terribly hopeful light you cant turn away from.
Edit: masterful writing.
She insisted on talking to him because he is the one who needs help, not her. She is a natural empath who represents House's inner child, he is talking to himself throughout.
You are correct about one thing: masterful writing.
@pjeffries301 I mean I don't see why it can't be both. Let's just say it's both.
@@slamkam07 I agree that it's both, and even more. Every line is open for interpretation from ''the blue curtains represent the unattainable freedom'' to ''the curtains are fucking blue''. If people got a message or have felt something through film as an artform, it's safe to say that it's as personal and as truthful as it gets. 👍
@@stantheman143😂 in a hilariously serious way what you said is true.
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When the chips are down House cares about his patients on a deeper level than most doctors.
This was always the element of the show I admired. The idea that he's rebellious and addicted to the puzzle, while in the end, he's invested.
Katheryn Winnick is one of my favorite actors. She was great in Vikings. I also have a tremendous crush on her
me as well lol
Omg she was on Bones and she was so great on there that developed a crush as well
Beautiful ukrainian girl ❤
@@knightofren1915 Ukrainians are born in Ukraine, this lady is Canadian.
One of the most beautiful women in Hollywood, in my opinion. Did you ever see her on Craig Ferguson's show? Holy crap. She went on offense and flirted her butt off and he didn't know what to do. Hilarious.
The real reason she wants him to treat her is because she sees pain in his eyes. Pain is something others can recognise. It's why she trusts him and why she's trying to connect with him. She wants his answers to how to deal with this pain, to give her the strength to move on.
I don't think that's the reason, from people that I know in similar situations (maybe not r**e but some similarities) is because House is the opposite of the one who did that to her (usually people they know) so fake kindness and those stuff, so House is not only outside of her circle (usually harder to open up with people you care at first)
So to sum up House is hostile yet understanding without any fakeness and easier to talk to
no one owes you anything
@@cosmicreef5858 😂😂😂😂
@@cosmicreef5858everyone owes everything to me. Even you do.
@@cosmicreef5858 okk
The storyline of this episode could have been a story for an oscar nominated drama film. Just imagine this being a full studio film. A doctor and a patient.
@@oscarwilde5473that was a great film
@@KINKYmustache what film? Comment is deleted
Was this not the Story of the Movie good will hunting ???
"If you were to care about every person suffering on the planet, life would shut down". Gotta agree with him on that one
That whole interchange was a beautiful illustration of stoicism. It isn't about not caring, it's about recognizing that you can't be everywhere at once and that the thing in front of you might not be the most important thing, no matter how much it seems like it. Sure, House uses this philosophy to keep distance, aloof in his own suffering, but there is also an objective truth in what he's describing. Our sympathy and care doesn't 'belong' to any one particular person, proximate or unknown at a distance. The stoics understood that one's sense of morality comes before action, and even perception. When you know the futility or proper context of your action, only then can you act with compassion and no blindness, no hypocrisy. She saw all that in him; Underneath it all is House's willingness to face the truth of existence and a smart person will always respect that, and trust it.
If you dont care about anyone though you very quickly become a villain though.
Thsts called lack of empathy. Human race can't survive without it
true. you gotta be selective in what you care about. caring about each random person you meet just means you're burdening yourself with things that aren't your problem. If you're the type to help a person that's cool. I do that sometimes, but that doesn't mean i actually care about the person i helped. once it's done, their outta my mind and im back to just focusing on my business.
I agree as well yeah. There's too much suffering in the world to think about, stress and get depressed about. If we worried every single time we got some bad news, we'd just break down. Its why sometimes whenever I hear awful news about something happening in some part of the world I try to just disconnect myself. While it might be a tragedy, at least I don't wanna be sad about it
STUNNING performances of all of these actors HOUSE WAS BEYOND most series,HUGH will never equal this,he was born to play this part
From all the interacting, i gather she's very smart. The incident is her handicap, for life. The doctor she talks to is witty and immediately catches her pain from her reaction. And instead of forceful empathy or simping over her, he walk out on her.
She knows at a deeper level that nobody else can understand her like he does. He left because he cared, because he's aware it's beyond his capability.
It's like a gifted child meeting a grandmaster. The fascination, the intrique, the unanswered questions to life... Maybe it started with a tragedy, but the possibilities brought forward by it, of meeting her spiritual teacher is something she doesn't want to let go.
😂 had to look it up... And damn!
Edit: I** was so closed to the scriptwriter' thoughts.
I think this is a pretty fitting description of the situation, yes.
Gotta love how the comments with a few dozen likes are more insightful than the ones with thousands of likes
Katheryn Winnick is a tremendous actress.
If someone understands House' implications of irony suggesting a counter 'r*pe' and reaches that conclusion IN A SINGLE SENTENCE?.. she is extremely smart
Luring someone into such an act and not telling them you switch genders... is also considered grape... As under law, the person can't rightfully make a decision if there's deceit.
I think she intuitively recognized that House was different. That he had his own pain to deal with, and therefore she connected with him in a way that she couldn’t put into words, hence her repeated “I don’t know” answers.
I was thinking about this episode last week. Excellent timing. One Day One Room. Really wish this show would come back. Even the doctors who see me for organ failure and the vets who treat my pups loved it. Bought the whole series on DVD. Phenomenal.
House's insistence on not caring about people makes him perhaps the best in the world in differentiating between who you are and what happened to you. Because he wants to care only about what happened, not at all about who you are.
In doing that, he's the only one who treats her exactly as he would in any other situation. He's a glimpse of normalcy to her - the thing that's affecting her every moment is irrelevant when she's talking to House. It affects her treatment, not her person.
It's a reprieve from her experience, like an oasis in the desert.
No such word as normalcy.... The word is normality..... and yes you will find it in the dictionary.But it is not proper English.... American educational system strikes again 👍
@@PATRICKFRANCIS-bt4hs It's earliest recorded use was in 1855 in a math book, and then used in 1920 during an election race, of which it started to see more use after.
At bare minimum it's been a word "normalized" for a hundred years. Plenty of words get created or changed over the years. It's how language works. I'm sure if we look at the "PROPER ENGLISH" of old, you'll find the current iteration of it making liberties or being changed.
Good job on making an ass of yourself though.
Bad take @@PATRICKFRANCIS-bt4hs
Bad take @@PATRICKFRANCIS-bt4hs
Yeah that's a bad thing for a doctor. We treat not the ailment, but the patient.
"You have to have a reason. Everything has a reason."
Yeah but it takes a lot of self-knowledge to know every reason you have for what you do.
That comes with being Self-aware... Which I'm not sure if you're aware, not many people are.
True, but he's there in a professional capacity. The only issue she has that he can professionally treat is her Chlamydia. He's not trained to help her with the trauma she has, so she really should have a good reason why she wants an MD and not a psychiatrist to treat her. If she wants to just talk, surely she has friends and relatives for that. He could have been treating patients whom he's actually qualified to help. This isn't just an "I don't know why I like to sleep in this position or why I like the color red.", something more mundane.
@drl5002 "why doesn't she talk to family or friends" because in the aftermath some of us can't bear it.
@LAKnightAuthor the point was that an MD isn't the answer to what is a mental issue. If it had to be a doctor, Dr. Stone was a better fit, but the patient didn't want that.
I think she wanted House because he was the only one who didn't show even a shed of pity. He was cruel and straight forward, no beating around bushes.
Statistically speaking, victims don't need pity, they need time and normality to move on from the state of being a victim. Pity is the one thing they keep reminding them that they're victims
I think its moreso that House treated her like a person, not a victim and thats what she really want, just being able to connect with someone and not have them console her or give the "Its not your fault" speech, some people just want to be treated normally and not like something bad happened...even though it did.
I have seen this episode. And its one of the best in Television history, imo. It explores the human condition and vulnerability with smart dialogue and all done earnestly.
One of the major approaches to treating depressive spells is to find distraction in things you don't feel bad or ideally even fell good about. Hobbies, games, and the like. You need to manage that it doesn't become a deleterious escape but just spending that time with your brain not fixated on the issues that triggered the episode helps your brain to quietly process them. Obviously, depression is a complex neurological malady and "just do what makes you happy" isn't going to cure it alone, but it does give credence to the idea that "time" by itself, not focusing on the trauma, will help in the long run.
Speaking from experience, you're right. Being idle and bored holds the door open for depression. Which is what it wants, so it makes you too tired or apathetic to do stuff. But I've found it's almost impossible to have intrusive thoughts while playing an engaging video game, watching a good movie, or working with my hands while listening to music or even at the gym with a semi-decent podcast. Time doesn't always heal but distance always provides perspective.
@@dars5229Or PTSD
In my experience, not being able to sit and process something and think about it just leads to it being repressed. Maybe I feel this way because of my ADHD, but I don't know. For as long as I remember, I've been able to overcome and process things if I just give myself the time to cry or be angry instead of distracting myself. Distracting myself just leads to me feeling built-up and unregulated which causes my emotional reaction to be worse than it would've been beforehand. Coping strategies and ways of processing emotions/events differs hugely from person to person. I think having this realisation about how I process things has also made me understand why therapy did not work for me when I was a teenager.
@@amebunni Yeah, it's not a cure-all, it's just one tool in the box.
@@dars5229 Years ago a friend I only knew via online gaming admitted to me I had saved him from suicide. He had never even said he was depressed. He did just go missing and never logged on for nearly an entire month and I was genuinely worried for him, and I think perhaps he wanted to play one day and saw the flood of unread messages I had sent asking if he was ok.
Now even though we've never met, we're pretty much best friends.
Katheryn Winnick is a great actress. I did not want this clip to end.
One of the best hours of broadcasting ever presented.
This is still one of my favorites of the House episodes. Brilliantly written and strangely keeps you watching.
One of my favorite episodes of the series. Kathryn Winnick was great in the episode.
Time and process. She scares him. They both have fear in common so she can borrow from his ego and vice verse. She knows it but she doesn't know what or how she knows it.
Confused? It'll sort out.
Easily one of my favorite episodes. Katheryn Winnick delivers such a phenomenal performance.
4:50 house is playing a psp nice to still see them, still got mine to this day🤣💀
Me too
Bottom line … you cannot force someone to deal with something before they are ready. Patience and sensitivity are the keys.
One of the very few times House sincerely, "Oh God"
💜
Hardly seen any actress dominating Dr. House like her, she was so intimidating.
3:03, Trusting a doctor is the primary reason that motivates any patient to get treated.
Katheryn Winnick has always looked a decade younger than what she is.
It's a shame she never had kids
@@ZeeZed153 That, is probably one of the reasons why she looks young. Pooping out parasites does some serious harm to the female body.
@@Smonjirez Ya but it's a waste she never passed that beauty on and knew the joys and life balance of fulfilling her maternal instinct.
@@ZeeZed153 Some people find fulfillment in life in different ways than following their biological pre-programmed instructions.
@@Smonjirez No they don't. Rejecting and suppressing the natural instinct is a recipe for disaster.
Lisa Edelstein did such a great job on this show.
You guys see that PSP house is using? That's the one the autistic child gave him as a thank you for curing him.
House keeps it with him till end of series....
I love Katheryn Winnick. What a natural beauty and fine actress.
This patient is wrapped in about 6 miles of scar tissue, just like Dr. House..he's perfect person to talk to. If we know anything about House, he understands pain. Both emotional and physical. And that's why I love him.
Katheryn Winnick is so beautiful
I dont think anybody else has said it, and I am not reading the comments to figure out if they have.
I think she wanted him right away because he recognized what happened to her, and immediately respected her space and boundaries.. It may have made her feel safe in his space that he knew what had happened to her, what her mindset was, didnt judge her, and then tried his best to treat her professionally and 'with care' ... at least as much care as House provides emotionally. She needed that.. to feel safe with at doctor that was not treating her with pity, but by the books.. He is a living book of knowledge.. an inanimate object of 'fix me' that cant and wont hurt her.
She was heartbreaking on Bones
...and on Criminal Minds as well!
Not all people want a fake compassion. Some prefer more honesty even if it's not comfortable.
Cuddy, Wilson, Cameron, etc.: "How could Dr. House have so little care for his patients??!!!! D:
Dr. House: *Nearly falls on his face to help a patient*
"House's Head"/"Wilson's Heart", "Three Stories," & this episode are my favorites from the entire series, in that order.
Add, was it "help me"? (The one where the building collapsed), to that list.
@stefangla6878 So, my DVDs only run up to season 4. And whenever I have a streaming service & start watching, I start from the beginning & inevitably get distracted by or before that point too, until I cancel the streaming service.
So I've never actually seen any episodes beyond then, despite multiple tries. Lol
I've heard that's a really good one, though!
@@TinKnight It's the season 6 final, so you'll get to it.
I would add "fetal position" to this list.
That Woman can act..
She wanted to talk, she said because time changes, House said doing something changes ... But talking is doing something ...
When the doctor said "Pretending this didn't happen is the best thing she could do" to me that felt like bad advice because wouldn't be pretending make the trauma worse by not dealing with it? Then again I'm not a SA victim, so I wouldn't know if this method helps or not.
Yeah definitely not great advice. I was SA'd and I tried to pretend it never happened. That subconscious trauma eventually manifested into physical symptoms, known as FND. I lost the use of my legs, had cognitive issues, and more. I only got physically better as I forced myself to work on my mental trauma. Long story short - everyone's different, but as a rule of thumb, don't ignore your trauma. It'll come back and bite you even harder.
@@clairesmiley_ I am so sorry that happened to you, and I hope you continue healing from it.
Foreman is usually the one saying & doing the worst things while pretending he has the moral high ground over everyone else. The series ends with him in Cuddy's position, running the hospital, about as bad a job as he can do. Then again, despite Cuddy hiring House & often insisting he's a super-genius, she was often belittling his actions, going behind his back to prevent him from doing his job & playing it safe. TV shows generally do this- treat the main character like a renegade, treat everyone who disagrees with him as if they have some moral superiority yet in the end the main character ends up in the right, everyone else looks like a fool, but no one learns anything so repeat again in the next episode.
I don't have trauma - but we all require empathy...,plus respect.
That's actually the worst advice that you can give to any victim of trauma. You wouldn't try to heal an open wound by pretending it isn't there, would you? Of course, you wouldn't because #1, you can't because they pain is still there to remind you that it's there and #2, it would get infected if you don't take proper care of it. It's the same with trauma. Processing what happened to you is painful, but you can't heal if you don't take that step.
"Time by itself, changes nothing." -Thrall
Is that... Is that from World of Warcraft?
@@StanHowse yes. Thrall is our Green Jesus. Fills every plothole ever
One of the best television series, I have ever watched.
if you can't take it. He doesn't give it.
Any doctor worth his salt would NEVER suggest time isn’t important in healing. If anything, it is the one factor in all healing that ALWAYS applies.
I disagree. It is true that time is a common factor, but that is a side effect of action and understanding and sometimes emotional desensitization. The only reason time is involved is because that stuff can't happen all at once.
@@jefflittle8913 It sounds like you are agreeing with me, actually.
@@jaylambert2838 It seems that way cause you both stumbled upon a philosophical time paradox. Time is an illusion of Space and Velocity, our brains, thought of time, as a concept to explain our perception of reality though all we experience is the state of now. So what I am basically trying to explain is that you are both right from a certain point of view ;D If the passing of time is observer-relevant, is it truly there or just an illusion? and if it's not really there it is not a factor in healing.
@@SirBritishful Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t know you were nuts. Never mind.
@@SirBritishfulI came to this chat to see how long it would take someone to say time is a construct. You won in three.
Bc he was the only person willing to treat her normally. My friend was the same, she clung to a stranger from the hospital bc she spoke normally to her and didn't treat her like a survivor or a victim or a patient. After a few weeks, it really sunk in and she switched to me and her sister. But she wasn't ready to face that for a few weeks and that's okay. You're allowed a break from reality after that happens to you
1:06 Thats the most self-aware thing House has ever said.
I really like this title where you state the name of the Guest Star actor.
Just noticed that everytime he sees her he unties her from the bed, nice touch, he's conisidered the lack of control she has at being bound and testing the ease she has being around him for a way out.
She’s wielding power over him. Knowing his job requires him to acquiesce to her frankly unusual requests. She also wants to dominate the time of the most valuable doctor at the hospital just to “talk”.
Well, at least she is advocating for herself by asking for what she senses could give her the best chance of recovery. That is what the healing profession is supposed to be about - not about getting in line and not asking for what you actually need and passively taking whatever "help" you are given even if it's not what will work for you and you know it. Oh, yes, he's a very busy and important doctor, let's not have an actual patient in actual need actually ask for what they need from those who are tasked with facilitating healing. How dare she "waste his valuable time".
This was a really good episode
What I love most about this episode is that even though House is usually an ass to everyone around him even his team, he still cares for them.
I like the nod to the autistic kid that gave him the PSP
I have the complete series at my fingertips, so...why do I watch the "shorts" & be completely enthralled?
Time dilutes things, i guess :D any one experience becomes a smaller and smaller part of the whole as the whole increases. Not to mention the distance in time from said experience.
That may be true most of the time. But now I am old, I remember me 6 years old as yesterday. Cliche but true.
@@Mutineer9 Well i'm talking based on a sample size of one 35 year old so not really a universal truth :D
Nice to see he still plays with the psp
One of the most cases I have ever loved in dr. House .
I would listen to Lagertha all day! Lol
Great and meaningful performance and for the first time I know that the phrase I don't know is in itself a sufficient answer to a question.
My fav episode!! It's just so good.
Fantastic show and this is probably the best episode.
In a world where very few people are blatantly honest, House was always straight up truthful. And there's a certain amount of trustworthiness that comes with that.
I KNEW IT!!!!! Katheryn Winnick is a immortal
Misery loves company.
If misery sees misery they wonder what justify them to keep going and what tools to use.
I know, I have seen kids (9-13 years old) trying trying to comit suicide only wanted to talk with me because they see my suffering.
She's on a heart monitor he has no need to check her pulse...it's a test of trust.
I really like her natural powers and passion when she is acting. Bit like the early Anna Torv.
The way she lowered her voice andsaid “ why dose there have to be a reason”.
Video released 6 days ago and im just getting the notification
Take this episode out of the series and it stands by its own as a truly brilliant piece of writing.
As someone who was subject to repeat abuse for a number of years I know this to be true.
She represents House's inner child. He is talking to himself throughout the episode. Abuse, in all forms, is terrible.
Great writing.
I absolutely forgot it was Katheryn, the acting in this episode was superb
most famous shield-maiden in the world
lagherta is very vulnerable without ragnar!!!
A man who DOESNT want her for her looks, body, or sex. A man who she WANTS to be around for what she WANTS. To have control in a relationship of her making. She manipulated her situation to get what she wants. In the end she got what she wanted and she was safe.
House is being very nice i like that
Katheryn Winnick is an amazing actor ❤ loved her in Vikings and she was also in an episode of Law & Order
Really bad messaging. Time and inaction DOES change things - this is how the grieving process goes. Inside we have the resources we need, but they need stillness to come to the surface. Constant action is not a solution, but a distraction...
When the actions stops the trauma is still there, you have to learn to live in a room by yourself with your own thoughts, that’s true healing.
Even though she went through a very traumatic thing in her life, she wants to help the pain she sees in him.
her acting is Crazy good
"im graping you?"
LMAOOO
why was that so funny
She really played this part well
She's so pretty
Yes
It's a cry for help not a legitimate suicide attempt. She did it in a hospital where She knew there would be immediate action taken. There was no need to cuff Her to the bed or have Her on a Suicide watch.
Lmfao
Lololol. What's the hospital's excuse when she does the same thing again and dies? Even if something's a cry for help you still have to accept the consequences for your actions
It's standard protocol.
I remember this same stubbornness from a close relative: no matter how hard I tried, he couldn’t even begin to comprehend the importance of talking. “You act with facts, not words”: one who really doesn’t understand the importance of speech
I HATE this this ended here without including any of he episode's resolution 😤
My first encounter with Winnick... she was so insanely good here!
She wanted to talk to him because his name is House in the show called House. There, you’re welcome. 🍻
Yes!!! I thought she looked a little too familiar in Vikings. Pretty pretty ❤
She kinda looks like Marisa Tomai in some scenes
Katheryn Winnick is an amazing actress and beautiful.
House never wants to get inside anyone. She feels comfortable around him because even though he's cruel, he doesn't want to invade anyone's inner self. He does not want intimacy.
Therefore, she does not have to worry about protecting herself from that sort of invasion.
how Queen Lagertha recruits her personal shaman...
I wonder if what draws her to House is that he is a jerk, but she also knows that he will never intentionally hurt her. He is a safe lab specimen for her to study and come to understand the monster who actually did hurt her.
I would have loved to have seen her as Sue Storm in this new Fantastic 4.
She never ages