14 Year Old Bride Rebels Against Older Husband | Chicago Med | MD TV
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- Dr. Manning and Dr. Halstead are horrified to find out the man they believed to be their 14 year old patient's father is actually her husband and is unwilling to get her ovarian cancer treated in order to get her pregnant again.
From Chicago Med Season 3 Episode 10 'Down by Law' - Dr. Manning struggles with the aftermath of a head injury; Dr. Manning and Dr. Halstead deal with a teenage patient and her overbearing older husband; Dr. Rhodes learns alarming information about the woman he went on a date with.
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"She's not old enough to make the decision to not have my child, but she's old enough to decide to marry me, a 60* year old man" BOY IF YOU DONT SHUT UP-
40 ? You're generous...
Lol, 40. You sweet summer child.
He is pushing 70
@@ss-wu1vpOng 💀
That's a 60 years old man
What sucks even more, is if she did try to get out of it by claiming she’s being abused, she wouldn’t be old enough to get a lawyer! And domestic violence shelters wouldn’t accept her because she’s not of age either ! So she’s old enough to MARRY but not do these things ??? Our system is messed up
Changes Must occur in our system to protect the innocence of the young. Parents should be prosecuted for neglect to protect a child from pedophile situations.
Old enough to marry but not old enough for protection 😭😔
Thank Gawd for the Religious Right fighting for good ol family values 🥰😇 …No hate stronger than Christian love ❤️
When a child is married they're legally emancipated. Of the bat. So she could legally do those things being emancipated.
This is why some girls become prostitutes. We need to better protect children and teach our boys better healthy relationship skills.
I was a child bride. Married to an older man at 15 years old. I became pregnant a couple months later because he refused to use protection, nor did he allow me to start birth control. I was a mother at 16.
I endured pressure from being told that it worked for my mother, as she was a child bride too and a mother at 16.
I was also told by my father that because I was a girl that I was only good for one thing and that he would get rid of me as soon as he could.
Being continuously bullied , It came easy to fall into a relationship with an abusive, manipulative, unfaithful narcissist.
I was forced to quit school because I was a liability to the school as a pregnant teenager. So my dreams of becoming a nurse were no longer possible.
Always being told that because I am too young to make decisions on my own over my own body , I ended up in a situation where I was considered as property.
It took me 8 years to make a way out of that physically, mentally and emotional prison. I had to get my three kids out of that dangerous situation. I couldn't stay and have them witness their mother being abused as well as his inability to get and keep a job. I wanted better for them.
There are so many ways I was controlled, and he was so manipulative that he would disable my car so I was not able to get food and what my kids needed. We lived outside of a small mountain town and there was no public transportation back then, no shelters and police didn't care if he beat me. One asked " what did you say to him to make him do this to you?" He was in a drunken rage and frequently came home from the bar to beat me for the rest of the night until he passed out. Then ask me what happened to me and why was face swollen? Then crying and saying that he was sorry.
.There are so many things that go on in a child marriage that no one will ever know about. It has to be stopped. We are humans, not property.
Thank you for reading my story. I hope for a deeper understanding of the dynamic of child marriage.
I’m so so sorry you had to endure that. I hope you and your children are in a much safer and happier place now.
Im so glad you were able to escape what must have felt like a prison of a life. I hope you've moved onto better things in life now
Thank you for sharing your story. It breaks my heart you had to go through this, but I can see your strength. I hope things are well for you.
You could have killed him one of tjose days he beat you and called it self defence
@@blahbleh5671. 👍👍👍👍
The fact people are defending marrying off literal kids is disgusting 💀
Exactly xx
Soon as he said, "She's my wife." EVERY hand, foot knee, forearm, elbow and bullet would be thrown/fired.
Yes the comments show how many disgusting people are like that man
Dude you do realise how badly this would playoff, if people actually found out about this there are legit biker gangs that target things like this it wouldn’t roll over well unfortunately maybe in other countries, but the show is based off of America, which is why I’m saying this
@@ynln3068 Child marriage happens every day in the USA.
I’m glad they brought this issue to light because some people think child marriage only happens in third world countries.
I know right, it should be allowed everywhere because.. freedom. Africa, they hate us for our freedoms. Like to dance around neeked, and to get married to anyone who we love and who loves us back...
Like 16 is one thing but 14, damn. Shes barely a teen, basically still a little girl
@@slyfox4564 She can pull a trigger and k1ll you, so, are you sure. Apparently old enough to die of ovarian cancer, but not old enough to marry in your opinion? And more to the point, who are you to judge and tell others what the can and can not do with their love life? I think that's more to the point...
Do you like anyone bossing you around telling you who you can or can not marry or love or have 3x with? I'm guessing.. no.. but this is okay for you to do to others?
Based on nothing more than something superficial as age.. or.. I don't know.. hair color... or skin color...
Both 14 and 16 are arbitrary numbers of the bralnwashingprogram.. telltale signs you've been.. programmed. Someone told you 14 or 16, so you believed 14 or 16 without questioning why... 15 years minus 1 day is wrong, but 16 plus 1 day is okay...?
Don't feel bad, most people in the western world fell for it too...
@@slyfox4564 16 is also way too young
@@slyfox4564 I’ve heard of 8 year olds becoming wives…
Parents for force their children to marry adults should be charged with human trafficking
Preach! Seriously tho! It is the exact same thing!! Disgusting that b/c it’s “marriage” and not with multiple partners it’s legal. This is awful. And so sad for anyone that is living this kind of life.
Far worse should be done to them.
Or force them to marry ANYONE.
@@life.with.too.many.animals9411 true. Some parents force their children to marry other children. Sad but true. Some even force their adult children to marry.
Different cultures
"You are a Bully, and a Predator!!" That was the NICEST way of putting it....
Now be even harsher
The fact that he used physical force against the attending doctor of his "wife", and insulted her, and WASN'T immediately removed and banned from the hospital baffles me.
@@DracoCordraconis I thought that too. That could have been classed as assault.
@@DracoCordraconisshe's a lot more likely to be fired in all honesty. Entangling emotions with your duty at work isn't a smart move
She’s has a point, that guy was a creep and a coward
hey, 14 year old grooming victim here. i recently got out of a very toxic situation with a 20 year old and i’m still recovering. in my honest opinion, children under the age of 18 should NOT be allowed to marry at all, period.
Preach
Why were you with a 20 year old? You need to be dating someone your own age
@@dr.arabyang6013 do you think i WANTED it? are you stupid?
@@dr.arabyang6013did you actually read the comment
A 14 year old shouldn't be dating at all, with an adult, or otherwise. They should be in school, focusing on studies.
The smile on her face when he says she will be banished from the church, says it all
Freedom from a cult. Hurray!
That wasn’t the threat he thought it was!
He is terrible.He should Marry someone closer to his own age..Her being so young he likes that control and power over her.
He could banish her to hell and she would still be happier than be with him
I’m not sure a 14 year old can just demand a hysterectomy-and get it immediately
She's a child because she's underage, but is an adult because she's married. You can't have it both ways. Children under 18 should not be able to marry, not even a parent's permission should override that
Actually factually she’s and adolescent. So that’s NOT a child or an adult. The more appropriate word you’re thinking of is minor which is more of a law based word.
@@justinmoore3217 yes, I know it is. I studied it. She's still 14, and not an adult
Biologically, a person is an adult when they are able to reproduce. The decision to set the age of 18 as the age of legal "adulthood" (or "majority" or whatever the term might be) is arbitrary, and a legal fiction. When discussing morality, we should take reality - including biological reality - into account. We should not base moral debate solely on what the laws say.
@@omp199 With how society is run, they are minors until 18. It's not a fiction when it's running that way. People like you are the reason child marriages still exist. There are females that start their period at the age of 6, should she be considered an adult even though her body has a very slim chance of surviving as well as not having the knowledge of life in general to be able to understand? The answer is obviously no.
How our society runs, is how life is. It protects those who are vulnerable.
Yes, everything is a construct, but it's what keeps out chaos.
Laws are made based on the morality of society. This is basic Sociology.
@@Shalyn-ln9tu You need to keep a level head and maintain a conceptual distinction between biology, ethics, and law. Can you maintain that conceptual distinction or not? You can't make any coherent statement in any academic discipline, including sociology, if you treat a statement of biology as a statement of ethics, or _vice versa._
If a person can reproduce at the age of six, then they _are_ a biological adult at the age of six. That is not a statement of law or of ethics or of "how things should be". It is simply a plain fact.
What I am saying is that we should take facts into account when discussing biology, ethics, and law. That should not be a controversial position.
Her smile at the end when he said she would be banished. She knew she was now free of that man.
& that he had not broken her
And the whole disgustingly awful situation that came with it.
He threatened her with a good time.
How can a human being call a 14 year old their spouse and think its ok? Unbelievable
Pedophiles aren’t human
@@nationalinstituteofcheese3012 amen to that. They're abominations in society.
@@nationalinstituteofcheese3012do you know what a human is?
Don't give us that woke culture nonsense. Women should submit to their husbands like they do in W Virginia
@@hivemind8817 Someone who doesn’t hurt children
If Lindsay’s mom died at age 19, that means she had her at 16. 😦 she was a kid herself. 😢
Cat's in the Cradle
And was probably pregnant by 15 😓😓
My parents agreed to the man who impregnated me. I was 16. My son is now 30 and what happened to me made me infertile after. It was all fine and legal. This country is fd
@@melanietoth1376 i’m so sorry, you deserved so much better.
@@melanietoth1376 Well, bringing stuff like this to the public eye will hopefully give it a voice for change.
This is why we need stronger laws against child marriage in the US
I agree
If you have the will change the nonsense law
Republicans will always try to legalise pedophilia. While simultaneously pretending love between two consenting adults is pedophilia.
And they just agreed to it in legislature in Tennessee a few weeks ago. So, so sad. I 💯 agree.
Correct 💯
When you force a child into an adult situation don't get mad when they make adult decisions.
What decision did she make herself?
@@ilovemelody82 to have a hysterectomy.
But she’s a dumb little wife who needs her husband’s permission
To have a hysterectomy
The judge that signed off on this should be kicked off the bench and thrown in jail
A parent giving consent on a matter regarding a child's sexual abuse is a monstrosity. How is incestual rape a crime, but allowing another person rape your child isn't? What the hell is wrong with the people who still didn't change this law?
Its probably a booming business thats why. Always money tied to shit like this.
Incestual rape is not always punished either.
I don't think this is the case anymore, there was something very similar that just happened where a 12 year old and her husband who is in his 20's showed up at the hospital because she was about to give birth. Her family approved it and the last time I checked, he is locked up and so are her parents.
@@rickyray2794 depends on the state laws like they said in the video.
Can ypu please explain what you mean? Do ypu mean parents get tp decide whether pr not to prosecute? Or getting medical care.
I seriously hope someone called the police after the girl said "I don't want to bring a child into this world." That was literally her confirming she's being abused.
Nah. Just her saying she doesn’t want a child. She could have even had that thought right then and there and not during the time before the hospital.
@@JamaicanRain Context clues, though.....
Exactly, and she was probably raped by that old guy. He needs to be locked up. Poor kid :(
@@sadem1045 yeah, noticed how her voice got shaky when he came into the room.
@@JamaicanRain do you think she had sex with him willingly and uncoerced? rape is a crime
I'm 14 and I couldn't imagine getting married to and getting pregnant with someone my own age, much less a man so much older. It's disgusting that this still happens.
It's a natural path in the teachings from the middle east.
It is primitive and disgusting!
im 17 and im mortified af that its still a thing like as my whole teenhood was just watching yt netflix and so on eating junk and study and theres ppl younger than me marrying like grown ass men my heart pities them that they cant have a normal life
It’s weird even at 20. Old men need to leave little girls alone.
When I was you guys’ ages I felt the same way. I’m 31 years old now and I still feel the same way. I’m super thankful I ended up with someone my own age but I still can’t fathom getting pregnant right now
sadly this is all too real for many children. I wasn't a bride as i'm a man but i was arranged and married off at 17 with my bride being 16. we did not last long because once we were married we could go off and live our life. This said, it wasnt until this year that child brides were illegalized in Michigan
I love how the doctor handle the situation, making him think he is right and that the female doctor was just problematic. Basically resolved the case.
His brother's a cop. I'd imagine he's learned a thing or two about handling criminals.
Grabbing her and dragging her out of the room is assault. How is he not arrested?
There was one episode when one of the doctors was literally punched and beat on and they did nothing, political BS
She would have to charge him then...even if there are witnesses it doesn't matter...unless she charges him nothing happens. That's the thing.
Even his ass should’ve been put behind bars and Halstead should’ve been there to defend her.
@@jackiehallam62 yup
@@life.with.too.many.animals9411 pretty sure the people outside could hear her shout, "get your hands off me."
"She can't make that kind of decision for herself," he says. Man I would love to hear him elaborate on that, and ADMIT that the reason she wouldn't normally be able to make a decision like that for herself is because she's a CHILD. What an absolute dumpster fire of a human being.
she can't consent to medical care but she can consent to sex. the hypocrisy is unreal
I bet anything his rationale is that she can't make the decision because she's female and a wife, and it's up to the man who "owns" her to make the decisions. The fact that she's a child probably seems irrelevant to him.
Which is EXACTLY why he forced her into marriage. To have ALL say for and over her.
Even if she was over 18, he still would think that she's not allowed to make decisions like that herself because he's the man and in a lot of religions the husband is the headship and the wife has to submit to him and defer to all his decisions.
@@MsMaryPatricia of course. Young or not,women don't have choices according to sick men like him. Its sad really. 😫
I know someone who is a doctor and came across this same type of situation. She had a similar conversation with the girl and her MUCH older husband tried to interject. She (my friend) took only one quick glance at him and said "Excuse me, but this whole time, I wasn't talking to YOU, at ALL."
Luckily, she was able to convince that girl to make her own decisions. The last time she saw that dirty old man, she said to him "You know, you're lucky that *I'm* not your wife. If I was, I would have burned you in your bed a long time ago."
Good. Glad she is safe now.
good thing the patient's safe now.
What a wonderful and godly husband. A 14 year old "woman" can not make "these kind of decisions on her own", but is mature enough to choose a husband for herself. Fact: she does not even need to choose a husband, her dad chose for her. Evil in the name of God!
Yes, amen.
The mother was 19 when she died, the daughter was 3 when she died. So the mother was 16 she was pregnant 🤢 This whole family failed her
The fact this grown man showed NO concern for her health. She is clearly being abused and is traumatized. How can a parent give consent if the child doesn’t? SMH. 🤦🏽♀️
He's not concerned for her health, because she's disposable. If she dies, is infertile or banned, there is likely another child bride he'll find in his "church".
And the fact that this is actually legal… the world is a sick place.
He is definitely a cult leader instead of a priest. All of the signs are there. Chances are that her parents were manipulated and broken as well to do this.
Concern for her health? He is a pedophile!
@@aarnzoo5124 This is not legal!
The moment he put his hands on her to try and remove her from the room that was assault. I would’ve had him removed and arrested right then and there
Very much so.
Absolutely!! I would have called Security then the Police,! Damn right.
My first thought also
The moment he put his hands on her to try and remove her from the room, I would have removed him from the room myself. Violently, and if no one stopped me, fatally. consequences be damned.
Yes. Put the pedo in jail and hope the other inmates hear what he did
If anybody noticed, she said her mom died when she was 19 and earlier she said she died when she was 3. So that means the mom was pregnant at 16 too, which explains why her dad signed the child marriage off
If this child marriage thing has been going on for a while, it’s possible that there have been 4 in 60 years, if my math is right.
Her mother was probably in the same religious cult
She also said her great grandmother died from cancer as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if her great grandmother was dead at 17, or something even younger!
I love how the preacher uses the same reasons the doctors were using to try and help her to try and stop her from the surgery
“She can’t make that kind of decision for herself” or “they coerced/forced you to do this right?”
I bet he hated acting as this character but well done to the actor for helping bring a light such a disgusting thing that happens to young girls all over the world
He did do very well, buy she was exceptional with the facial expressions and looking down or at him. Then the smile- joy mixed with relief.
Wasn't he ziggy on Roseanne?
That's why they call them actors. Even disgusting characters need to be played.
@@notsureiL Yeah I know but I doubt they like playing the characters but it's a job 😂 He did it well
Why do you think that? Most in hollyweird are in the dark cult and are pedophiles and have had their genders reversed. Do some diving in the rabbit holes, you'll find out who.
Tragically child marriage is currently legal in 44 states. Many places below the age of consent. This is unacceptable. Glad attention was brought to this subject.
Only 6 states don't allow it? What the fuck?
44 states?!? Holy god WTF what how why
@@o.h.w.6638 child molesters/predators have historically always held positions of power or influence is why this is allowed.
Jeffery Epstein didn't die in prison, he just had his friends in powerful places bail him out & then hide him away.
That's really awful. They should pass strict rules against it to protect children.
It's occurs more in America than any other country.
Sad thing is there are some states that really allow this BS as long as one parent gives consent 🤦🏽♀️
Yup. Child marriage is legal in 43 states.
@@peepslostsheep that is disgusting smh 🤦🏽♀️
@@peepslostsheep 43! Bro wtf man how can this be justified!
@@amandafry7261 It's down to 40 now. Still too high!
I’m so glad they approved the hysterectomy. It can be so difficult for women to get a hysterectomy even with children already or at an older age. It not unheard of for doctors to require the husbands consent too, even for adults.
True. I have to have a hysterectomy, I'm in my mid 30's with 3 children, and I felt like I was signing the Spanish inquisition. The Dr. did speak to my husband, but he didn't have to sign anything. What a world we live in.
She had a medical reason with women dying in her family from cancer at 19 she wanted to live her life whether she has children or not plus she wanted to make the reverend lose interest in her.. I could tell she couldn’t stand him…
I had a neighbor who as a 14 yr old girl was “sold” into marriage to a man who was 33 yrs older than her, by her OWN FAMILY because they felt they couldn’t “afford” her any longer. Yes, happened right here in the United States of America & it was considered legal because the parents consented to it. Pretty damn sick, huh.
I'm in Australia, and my parents threatened to do the same. I worked every night for them. They sold me. It's everywhere
@@deannatroy8113 that's terrible
how is ur life now
That’s sick
@@deannatroy8113 are you ok, did you get out, can you divorce on your own? Need any financial aid, moral support, advice, I know how to find a place to live, long term, I know a bit about home and land procurement. I can help you with gaining skills you can put on you’re resume for a job, which ones pay decent.
All forms of child marriage should be considered illegal…EVERYWHERE. Back in April, In Tennessee, law makers proposed a new marriage bill that sets NO age limit for marriage. Meaning that you could have YOUNG child as a bride or groom. We cannot allow this in America.
I wonder if those same legislators are screaming about child marriage being allowed in some Muslim countries as well 🤔
@@PuffKitty exactly, it’s hypocritical bullshit.
Legalizing pedophilia. That's disgusting. Children should be loved and protected at all costs.
Personally I'd want the police to have a look at the internet search history of anybody proposing that there should be no age limit on marriage...
This has been a long time cominh, paedophiles have been protesting that they should ve able to marry children.
I was having a nervous breakdown watching this how awful for older men to seek out these very young girls sickening
I was a child bride in mississippi. My mom arranged the marriage. 6 pregnancies before the age of 21. Child marriages are a real issue that needs attention
Are you still married ?
@@larabonczek9437 no. He was super avusive. He is a good dad to his kids but i had to go when i turned 18. Im with another man now since 6 years ago. He is excellent.
Omg. I hope you found true happiness. 🍀🌷🥰
No. Not to him
I was married at 16 because a 24 year old got me pregnant. This would have been my life had he not died of a heroin overdose 7 months later. Our son was a month old and is now 23. Thank God he is nothing like his father.
((HUGS))
I'm so sorry this happened to you and I'm so happy to hear about your son.
To you and your son 💖
Well the only difference is this guy is like 40 years older actually and she’s a bit younger too
Sorry dear,it is painful that at this day and age grown men are still forcing themselves on young girls.martial art for defence purposes needs to be encouraged for girls
him: “you will be diminished in the eyes of the lord”
also him:”sleeps with a child”
Let’s not mince words. He sexually assaulted a child.
@@nathanmedina2809 a child
@@nathanmedina2809 A child is anyone under adulthood. She is a child.
@@nathanmedina2809 14 is still a child
I mean, going with the Old Testament this is perfectly acceptable behaviour, isn't it?
Her face at 1:00 is just heartbreaking. Absolute despair. I know it’s fiction, but it just breaks my heart that she’s had to go through such horrible things because of that man. It makes it worse knowing this happens in real life and my heart absolutely ACHES for those going through this kind of nightmare.
lol grow up and stop living in fantasy land
@@TheOnlySaneAmericantf is wrong with you
You should grow up and leave people alone
@@TheOnlySaneAmerican except this happens to real people and its not just “fantasy land”
The fact that a parent can just sign their kid up for something like that legally is disgusting.
When Linsey says she does not want to bring a child into "this world", we all know what she is talking about, and furthering her point at the end when she smiles about being banished, that is what she wanted all along.
Hi there? Hope you’re fine and staying safe?
Still sad that's the extreme she had to go through to exert control to make her own decisions. When he said have a family in the future it certainly didn't have to be with that pathetic pervert of a pastor. She should have had the option to file for divorce and hopefully meet someone that she may want to start a family with.
I also hope that pos reverend got arrested.
Her family medical history was frightening to her and she already had a problem with reproductive system.
Yes clearly she didn't want the marriage. Disgusting that the father signed off on it and that he'd do that to his child.
I love the little smile/smirk when she is rolled off to the surgery room, she has made a decision for herself and is taking a stand against what was forced upon her :D
Hi there? What’s new with you over there?
The pastors idle threats as they rolled her away had me chuckling. “You will be banished from the church…” don’t threaten me with a good time lmao
The best part! 💪❤
lmao. .. this is a TV SHOW. . . They are actors/actresses........stop taking things so serious
@@jamedlock83 Child marriage is real in the US...........
The fact that he genuinely doesn’t care and just wants to leave 😱
she literally has cancer and he refused chemo because he just want to conceive. disgusting.
Notice that when they first make eye contact after the consent comment, she looks away, but after she verbally states that it was her decision, she stares him down. Great acting!!
I have a niece who had ovarian cancer. She underwent chemo and had one ovarie removed. She survived and now has four beautiful children.
awesome 😊
Not exactly the point of this clip…but good for her
Many nut jobs want to claim doctors are secretly trying to kill you when they suggest something
@@Chels-fz5uq Actually he was just proving how unreasonable the reverend was being.
@@Chels-fz5uq why are you like that lmaoo
It should be a law that even with parental consent a woman can't marry until she is of legal Adult age...The same with young underage men too...Making it illegal for Parents to Marry off their underage children for any reason..There is no barter and trade agreements.
The age of marriage should be the same as the age of consent with exceptions only being made for those with life threatening conditions who wish to be married before death.
No one should be able to marry till the legal age. Not just girls.
@@codybaggett5329 Even then there should still be some level of age restriction
Sadly even when of age. They would usually still say yes as their parents literally force raise them to do that and that's their only purpose in life...to get a dowry and status.
@@chronicler6162 She said underage men too, many read before rushing to comment your crap
I think that a parent who gives permission for their underage child to be married should be brought up on trafficking charges. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Abso-fucking-lutely
The reverend only alluded to "she's a child, she can't make that decision!" When she was getting a hysterectomy by saying that that was his wife and he makes the decisions, that she can't make that decision for herself....
Oh, if only he read the law...
I love her grin. Sweet sweet form of justice
Her smile at the end when he threatens to have her banished from the community says everything about how much she wanted to be a part of it in the first place!
My blood pressure kept going up until then. My heart hurts for these poor girls married off so young.
To me: she never wanted anything to do with either that..."church" or that... Pedophile who called her his "wife"!
Many Religions has been sex trafficking children for thousands of years
Its heart breaking and he is not even shy to call her my wife
Yeah the only thing better would be her saying 'Absolutely!' right after he finished talking.
Rarely does a girl her age have the strength and courage to stand up. I hope more shows do episodes like this to put it into the minds of young brides that they can push back and get free.
@@dazzT.O. Well, I think that goes without saying. But my point is that, because it does happen, they need someone to show them that it is possible to speak up and find a way out.
@@dazzT.O. For the same reason that "rape should never happen" goes without saying but is still going. Because evil people exist and do evil to others. They know that they are evil. They are not confused about whether or not they are doing anything wrong. They lie and manipulate to get away with it. And so, it goes on.
It’s not that simple, if the show was realistic it would include the part where he murders her
@@kaila2932 For crying out loud, it's a tv show. Nothing about this show is realistic!!! Go sit down somewhere.
She’s even homelier than you think.
I’ve watched this clip so many times, and 1) kudos to this actress, especially 7:00 - 7:40, that is such an emotional scene and she plays it so well. 2) The realization that even if her husband tried to say she was “coerced,” he still wouldn’t have an argument. They tried to persuade her into chemo; she chose the hysterectomy. It’s a small detail, but it makes me so happy: it really was her choice.
Okay but lets all agree, the male actor did a Fabulous job making his character believable and hated without being outright evil (say beating his wife etc). Like I feel genuine disgust with his character, well done!
even as a Christian and conservative, this is sickening to me. SHE IS 14! and the "husband" looks like he's well into his 60s. marriage under God is when people love each other, not to be baby makers and pedophiles.
That's not Christianity that is cult and devilish, God dosent deal in those kind of nonesense
Amen! This is not Christianity. I’m a woman who can’t have kids. There were women who were barren and Jesus still showed them love. I’m not sure what Bible this man has been reading. Granted it CAN be confusing sometimes.
I have no idea what the fact that your Christian has anything to do with the fact that you reject this. Show me one sentence one phrase in the New Testament that says this is acceptable. Even the Old Testament never had this kind of thing
This is not a Christian way pls
@@Jeremiahservant actually it does. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18 (KJV)
The term women children was deliberately translated this way in the KJV because at the time the KJV was created it wasn't cool to marry little girls. However, it referred to little girls. Back in the ancient times marriage was consummated when the girl hit puberty, which was often at around 12 but could be as early as 8 or 9. There's also hints of human sacrifice, just fyi.
That smirk on her face as they were wheeling her away….priceless 😂
Best part of the whole clip.
She's like "Banish me, please!"
@@propogandalf NOOOOO. MY stupid brain instantly went 'Banish me, daddy'... then instantly screamed "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO" upon realization
He was like you’ll be banished and she was like hell yes
What season is this from anyways I swear I've seen it for before but yeah it's bananas shit like this is real behind the certain of reality
The girl that plays Lindsay is a really good actress and she was also in an episode of Chicago PD. So glad Natalie and Will helped her get out of that awful situation! This should be illegal! I love her smile at the end! ❤
The way he sounded so offended when the doctor called Lindsey his daughter, it’s sad and disgusting how this kind of stuff happens
"Are those things I'm supposed to look forward to?"
The way she delivered it was so heartbreaking.
She should never agreed to it. It is what it is.
@@andypeterson8013 Wow. Way to totally miss the point of this whole episode!
@@andypeterson8013 Thinking and breathing at the same time must be hard for you, huh?
@@andypeterson8013 She DIDN'T. Her father, her "husband" and some stupid judge made their marriage legal without her being able to have a say in it at all. Simply for the fact that she's under 18.
@@andypeterson8013 So people shouldn't be allowed to end marriages?
My daughter is 14… I could not imagine her becoming a wife right now! Kids need to be kids. They need to be able to learn, grow, and become who they want to become.
Agreed. At 14 I was definitely still just a kid. I remember on my 15th birthday when my mom bought me makeup and I just thought "oh.... I guess it's that time now?" and felt my childhood starting to slip away and it made me a little sad.
I ended up getting married at 21. We're still married now but I still think I was way too young. Our brains aren't even fully grown until we're around 25.
Bruh I'm 21 I couldn't even imagine this now if that makes sense pls 💀 let alone at 14 omg
I think that is a luxury that is sadly about to become a thing of the past.
@@mollyj2666 what is??
@@macieriggle3204 Do you mean that everything we know now is going to be a thing of the past, or do you mean that everything is going to become a luxury in the eyes of our future humans? What I mean is that childhood as we know it today, is going to be a thing of the past. In the past, speaking from family knowledge, children were being taught how to do the chores necessary to keep a home functioning.
child marriage without any age of consent is legal in 5 states of the USA. there are 300k marriages to children as young as 10 or lower. i didn't know this until last week and i'm so fucking disgusted.
*300k a year
By them excommunicating her, they’re only doing her a huge favor. You gotta love the smile on her face as they wheel her away.
Linsdey: Threaten me with a good time? Go right ahead.
The US really needs to get stricter with child marriage laws. Currently it's perfectly legal for 14 year olds to get married in most states.
@A J eyo, wtf is wrong with you?
Many states have NO minimum age for marriage.
agreed
Not only married, but married to older men. Only 14% of these marriages are between two minorsz
@A J so… they are raped and abused by older men/women. They can’t do anything about it because they aren’t at the legal age to get a lawyer or go to a domestic abuse shelter. So they are forced to be there for 4 years at least. It’s so sick
The smile on her face when he said “you go through with this and you will be banished by the church and the community” gave me chills. So many young girls really had to live through things like this and I imagine a lot of them would have the same reaction.
Young girls in the middle east live thru this every day.
@@intheredcold9216 yeah you’re right, I should have used present tense because it’s definitely still happening 😕
Yeah and when he said “You’ll be diminished in the eyes of the lord” he’s the one who should bd diminished in the eyes of the Lord.
@@Coyoteprimehe really talking as if he is in call with the lord 🤡
@@intheredcold9216every, single, damn, day. I literally can’t leave the house even in baggy clothes without someone, anyone looking at me with those judgeful b### eyes
Hysterectomy. Best decision I ever made. I spoke with my grandmother before in part of making an informed decision bc I could select what I had removed. With my family history and genetics testing, I could pick what my doctor would remove or everything. Granny suggested have everything. So glad I had support from granny, mom and sister in my recovery. Beautiful transition into menopause.
A child should never have to say "Are those things I'm supposed to look foward to?" when being talked to about a possible future💔
It really is sad. When I was her age, I really looked forward to it. And I still do, 5 years later. Had it not been for the cult, she probably would have loved the idea of having a family. She did the right thing. Not only for herself, but for any children that could have been born, and raised by the cult as well. She saved any potential sons from ending up like the reverend, and any potential daughters from meeting the same fate as her: a child bride who would die from cancer before they hit 20.
Child marriage currently remains legal in 44 US states some of them without any set age limit. If this disgusts you as much as it does me, call your state representatives.
I agree with you getting married before legal age shouldn't be allowed at all
Atleast make it the age of consent. Its basically like selling children
44!? That’s like 88% of the USA!
So essentially all you need is a bag of candy, a school with loose security and a RING? Oh, and a someone authorized to perform marriages(I THINK you can get a license for that online).
And a parents approval as well as a judges but yeah basically. The more I've read about it the more disturbing is it.
My mother is a labor and delivery nurse a few months ago she had a twelve year old child come in to give birth the father was twenty four and her parents were aware of the relationship and she was living with him. The hospital called the cops and the three were arrested if they had been legally married I can’t imagine what else could have happened. This man walked into that hospital with her and saw no issue with what happened. That is one of the most angry/exhausted I have ever seen or heard my mother in my life. I’m unsure of what happened to the girl’s parents but he went to jail and I believe the kids had to go to foster care. People like this are the worst kind.
As a woman this makes my blood boil. This is happening in 2022, it’s legally allowed and most people are not even aware of this!!
There was an actual news story about this exact situation , in the last year ? They showed pictures of the twelve year old enjoying her baby shower ! Thank God the hospital got the law involved. Some of our immigrant communities come from countries where this is allowed and do it here. That's what happens when an immigrant doesn't have to be educated in American law to achieve citizenship. It's Latino and eastern and Asian culture that needs to be addressed, at least here ,too bad their own countries don't stop it.
@@ce1581 American law makes it LEGAL. They just have to be married. You just said that immigrants need to legally marry children instead of illegally
What even is that take
WHAT
This is an AMERICAN GOVERNMENTAL ISSUE. Don’t try and shove it off on immigrant communities. Your racism popped out and you ended up defending CHILD MARRIAGES I just have no words Ms Cece
@@ce1581 this thought is absolutely disgusting! Before you go pointing fingers look at what AMERICAN law allows! In 44 states AMERICANS, of all kinds are allowed to marry and r**e children. This is a humanity issue, why do you carry hatred in your heart for cultures you know next to nothing about. Hungry greedy souls with no reprimanding do this, of any race, sex, or religion. It hurts that you are part of the problem.
This infuriates me
“My daughter? This is my wife!” Just hits different 💀
"If you're upset sir, we can arrange a meeting between you and God. I'll provide the one way trip myself."
her smile at the end made all the anger that reverend caused me to just diminish. she knows what she’s doing and that it’ll give her a much better life than her mom and grandma had and she is so, SO happy her choice mattered and she got what she needed.
Aside from not wanting to bring a child into the world, she probably knew on some level that she was just being used for her childbearing ability and that having a hysterectomy would result in her being ousted from the community.
But jokes on them. Now she's proof of the community's downfall. And frankly, I don't think she gives a damn about them anymore.
She saw this as her permanent ticket out of there.
@@bluesnake1713 that CULT sure didn't a darn about her - or any of the other teens.
Well it be kissing their community goodbye and watch it crumble.
It’s absolutely disgusting that parents the supposed PROTECTORS actually not only have the right but sometimes in fact sign away their children to fully grown adults…..it’s opening them to abuse knowingly and it’s horrifying to think that there’s technically nothing you can do unless you go the route of medical emancipation….disturbing
her mother pasted did you pay attention to hear that
@@destineebrock6779 She still had a father
As the mother was so young- nineteen when she died and her daughter was 3 years old at the time- they probably grew up in the church. That was what was expected of them
My parents signed off on me and were paid well. It is horrible for the many girls who are forced into this
@@dreaminlayers did they talk about the father...no so that's irrelevent
the way she started smiling when the reverend was saying “you will be banished by the church blah blah blah” it was great
I hope all children remain safe and happy and never have to go through all of the monstrosities life has to offer ❤
Nice to see someone being rational
The layers of meaning in his voice when he says "we have her consent" is just the cherry on top of the cast's fantastic performance this episode tbh. The hospital staff gave her a choice and respected it, unlike her husband.
I know! I absoloutely agree. You could totally tell the reverend wanted to say "but shes a child!" and had to stumble to change it since, yknow, it means he MARRIED a child too.
@@lanamarie7219 true I noticed that too
“Willful and argumentative” and the way he grabs her makes me feel like this is how he treats the teen
She's only useful to these people if she can have children, she understands that perfectly. This is her chance to break the cycle. Later she may find a wonderful man who truly respects her and they can adopt a child.
Or woman. Or someone who doesn’t want kids. Or she never finds anyone.
Whatever happens, she won’t be beholden to those people.
And for that pos reverend, hope he drops the soap in prison and I’m sure he’ll find a new spouse there. They’ll love him so much just as much as he “loved” that girl. 😁
@@matthunter4826 And I hope his new husband has the first name Ben and the surname Dover
@@HarryClarkson Took me a moment to get that but that's a good one.
@@matthunter4826 Hes gonna be carrying someone elses belt and being their bitch
There needs to be stronger laws against children getting married. Children need to be able to grow up and enjoy life before getting married and having kids. I know it happens but damn it people it needs to stop
People make it more complicated than it should be
That smile at the end he thinks hes threatening her but hes giveing her everything she wants and that freedom from him the church everything
My husband's cousin got pregnant at 11 by her mother's boyfriend. She lost her children but it's a horrible world we live in. Parents should always protect their children from harm and predators
Did he get reported???
I'm honestly disappointed that parents aren't doing a good job in keeping their kids safe from stuff like this
I'm sorry that happened to her and pray that he rots in h*ll
Did he go to jail????
Omg😢🤬
Sad indeed. Single mothers need to stay single or risk their children being abused. The story is way too common
@@Lunnalee100or at least be incredibly careful and cautious, pedophiles target single mothers and prey on their desire for a fatherly influence on their children. Often being amazing with the children, and loving and kind to the mother. All to have access to their kids. Sick.
He went to jail for it. She had the baby and put it up for adoption. He doesn't know much more than that since his aunt lost all her children due to it, she ghosted everyone because her brothers and sisters feel she knew it was happening and didn't care. That's all I know, I met his cousin once, she's quiet and reserved. Sweet girl. This video just reminded me of it and how these marriages are allowed in the us is shocking
I loved how she smiled when he said u will be banished
Edit: omg so much likes
Yeah, that was my favorite part as well
Oh please he'll stay with her, that was all threat. She still will go, that's all she knows. She was still scared and had to do it when he wasn't around.
The down side is once they are divorced he will just pick out another child from his church to assault
@@rihannahaiti5570 Have hope in people... they might surprise you!!
Do you really think that after tasting a bit of freedom, she will return?? She will rebel even more, and banishment from a cult is not like turning on/off a swicth...
IF She returns she will be lashed, drugged orr even worse!!!!! Returning would be a sentece to death, troment, or both, and besides, she is 14, that is the age where children, specially females, start to rebel, and she was controlead with a leash and her rebelious impusles were carved out. Now that she tasted freedom and her rebelious side, she will keep rebeling and that will come in a tsunami wave!!!!
Best part! I was yelling “you go Lindsay” at the tv.
I love that the doctors respected her decision and agreed to give her the hysterectomy. There's too many stories about women having to fight tooth and nail to be sterilized.
Him: "You'll be banished from the church"
God:" Leave me out of this"
Underrated
God: points to “whosoever looketh upon a woman to lust after her is at fault” ie, she bears no responsibility for how you see her.
God: Points to every spot in Mosaic Law about waiting to “come together” with your new wife if it’s too early.
God: points out where he clearly said that you aren’t allowed to stop a woman married to you from walking out the door at any time, with the kids, even if you’re allowed to marry multiple women in your culture, or you bought her as a slave originally.
God: flips money-changer table.
The church is not G-d! Never was!
Finally someone who knows that God does not honor this stuff.
That buzzer should be arrested and do 20 years for that kid
I was married off at 15 to a 29 year old back in early 90's. My guardian had to sign for it to happen. When the kids started coming, I was stuck(not one single doctor that I saw during my pregnancies mentioned anything to me about the difference in age or if I was even ok). I was convinced by him and everyone else that if I left, I'd have to leave without my kids due to me being under age. That's why a lot of kids stay with their spouses in child/marriage situations. As soon as I was of age and had a solid plan, I left with my kids and never looked back. The disgusting part is, these marriages are still happening today.
I'm so glad and proud of you for having the strenght to get out and to protect your kids the way the adults around you didn't protect you.
I'm so sorry you had to go through this. I applaud you for your strength and determination.
I’m so glad you got away blessing to you and your family
As tough as that was I'm happy for you that you got the support and help you needed. My upbringing was such that I did not want to have children. I was fortunate to marry a man that also did not want children.
God bless you and your strength !!!!
gotta love the little smirk the girl gave as she was rolled away from him
Yeah totally. She'll be banished for getting a hysterectomy but you won't for marrying a LITERAL CHILD. 🙄
i am not seeing enough praise for this young actress. i cant even imagine the emotions that go into playing a role like this, let alone living this out in real life
@@rawsushi277 I have a question if it’s not a hard roll can you do it I would like to see if you can act this role out yourself are you not even an actress or actor? Sorry if I miss gendered you were whatever by using those fonts anyways, it is hard and it’s challenging, struggling and that’s coming from someone he’s trying to profession is to be one of those actors that you see on TV
@@kureyadehaney6698 it’s not hard
@@rawsushi277 then do it ur self on ur UA-cam account prove that it’s not hard
I reckon she's probably a fair bit older than the character
@@rawsushi277 you can troll better cmon
How pained the male doctor was to scoff and say “women 🙄” just to get the creeps trust will never get old
Kinda smart, but still
Yeh especially because he and doctor manning are good friends.
Worth it to help the girl at least, but it must have pained him
Gross but I understand it was just to get his trust
This pops up every now and then in my recommended and each time i watch it i realize that she was probably married to him at age 12. She had a miscarriage 4 moths prior to this and was pregnant for some months before that. Its disgusting and horrible to think that this kind of situation happens in real life.
"You will be banished from the church!"
Lindsay: Finally
Not really the best threat now was it.
What I love about this aside from her standing up to her abusive husband is how the medical professionals respected her decision to not reproduce. Whether we’re unmarried in our twenties without children, married in our forties with children or anywhere in between, we women have a hard time being taken seriously when we say “I don’t want any(more) kids.” Religious or not, people think women are destined for motherhood and anyone who doesn’t want that is “confused” or will “change their mind”. That needs to change.
My mother in law told me I would change my mind and that not having children is "selfish"... My husband and I have discussed having children but simply, neither of us want to. At the end of the day we would be the ones raising a child not her, why should we breed when it's not what we want just so she can have a baby to fuss over? I love my husband and was prepared to "change my mind" because I felt like I was denying him of being a father. But, like me he doesn't want it. I have my reasons such as mental health conditions that I would not want to subject my potential child to. For example, my sister in law has psychosis and one of her daughters, my niece, has inherited it! It is a nightmare for them and the whole family. My family all have some type of mental illness and it all comes from my mother's father. I don't want anyone especially my own (theoretical) children to go through the mental torment I have experienced over my lifetime! Somehow though, it's all my fault, I'm being selfish and we should just breed regardless of any of that. It's not as if there aren't enough people on the planet... So to all the mothers-in-law out there, before you insult your son's wife take a minute to really think about who's being selfish in this situation...
I agree with everything you’ve said. There are plenty of “selfish” reasons people have for becoming parents but no one thinks of that or realizes it until it’s too late. Not wanting to subject a kid to being raised by parents who don’t want them is the responsible thing to do. Plus, like you said, we have enough (well, too much) people on this planet anyway. We’re just balancing out those who have large families with a bunch of kids lol.
I was told by an uber driver about 3 years ago that that I will want kids after ami said I DON’T want them.And she said that GOD will show me the way and I will want at least one.I thought’lady mind you OWN business’! Wow,she was pushy.RELIGION.There it goes.
Even for the women who've jumped through all the hoops required to get their tubes tied, 40% (!) those who got the procedure done at 18 - 24 end up regretting it and wishing they could have had biological children. Those are terrible odds for something as serious as permanent sterilization. And these are young women who worked extremely hard to get the procedure done -- presumable they were more than 100% sure they didn't want kids at the time. At 30 - 34+, the chance of regret drops close to zero because you really know what you want.
It's a terrible idea to make permanent decisions about fertility in your teens and early twenties, and it's ridiculous to think that doctors would give a 15 year old a hysterectomy when she explicitly says she wants one because she's currently in a bad situation. If she's removed from that situation, she may very well want children, and if she doesn't, she can always get sterilized later.
Children are a permanent decision many parents end up regretting, even if they won't admit it.
As a mother of a daughter this is sickening… how could a family let this happen so horrible. The parents should be held accountable for this.
didn't they state that the parents were dead since she was a small child? You cant hold the dead accountable for anything
bro this is a tv show it’s not real
@@lidelse666 ok but it still happens in real life, dude.
Only the mother died. The father is alive and consented to the marriage.
@@Umeshukitsune and given the mother died when she was 19, father was probably complicit in the system. burn the whole dang thing to the ground.
This guy is such a good actor. You really want to punch him through your screen! Serious acting skills
I love the smirk on her face as she was rolled away from him
She knew exactly what she was doing, it's just a shame she had to give up her ability to have kids to get out of the abusive situation.
I think in reality a hospital would refuse to do a hysterectomy on a 14-year-old no matter her social circumstances. It's a clever way out for the script but I've heard in reality that women who needed one but it wasn't a life-or-death emergency couldn't convince doctors to do the procedure.
There's adoption/surrogate
Plus for all we know she will never want children. Some people just live their life without children by choice. Good for her for freeing herself.
@@chibiprussia5574 weren’t you paying attention?? She wasn’t pregnant she closed her tubes basically to get pregnant
Did you not listen, she has cancer, her mother and grandmother both dies of it at the age of 19, that means she would be dead before she even reached 20 ! As an Emancipated young woman, it's her right to decide what happens to her body, more so when choosing to have a hysterectomy, to avoid EVER getting cancer and dying before she grows out of being a teenager. Did you not get that she didn't want kids to him, never did, so this was her way of getting back at him and taking control of her own life and being able to live for the rest of her life. Not every woman 14 or not, will always want children. IF she had reached the age of 19-20, 5-6 years from her being 14, she would have died from having cancer anyway, so it was and does become a matter of life and death for her, they caught it at stage 1, not stage 4 when it's too late. no offence, think before you ask your question, the answer was there all along.
The fact that they're are no laws making child marriage in the US and that there are some in power trying to keep that from happening disgusts me. I'm glad that this show covered an issue such as this.
This can't be legal.
@@cynthiabiel7714 unfortunately it is
@@cynthiabiel7714 Unfortunately it is. I've seen a whole TV report about that, many exemples about some statesin US where a girl gets pregnant and with their parents consent, they can get married to the father of their child. In the report I saw, they were 13, 14, legaly raped because under the age of consent, but forcfully married to save, I guess, the family reputation. The ones I heard about also happend where, I quote, "They don't want us to get an abortion but they look down on us if we are pregnant teens". So they marry them, not problem anymore right. So if you can marry a pregnant young teen without her consent but with her parent's, I guess it's also possible to marry one who's not pregnant.
That's how you get uneducated very young mothers who will consent to that kind of madness for their own daughters later. The best way to keep authority over someone who is supposed to be your equal.
Lol don’t go to most of the south…
White make supremacy reigns, still, in many laws; we must overturn these entrapment by power hungry ignorant white males... in 50-ish years, the USA will be 300 years old...how much longer do the rest of us have to suffer under "THEM"...
can we take a sec to respect the actor who played the reverend? it must be tough to play such an outright creepy role, and he did a great job
Kudos to both the actors playing the reverend and the wife. The rage I felt towards him and sadness for her, you forget that in this situation they're actors playing roles.
That smile on her face in the end is the smile of a person who finally realizes just how much power she truly has. This girl has never had a choice and now she does.
Also, ban child marriages.
>choice
>ban
Pick one.
@@omp199 ban
@@namjesus3789 But then people don't have a choice.
@@omp199 who tf cares? A child SHOULD NOT be marrying in the first place. Only ADULTS can make the decision and choice if they want to marry, the child should not because she shouldn’t be married.
@@TheOfficialDirtyDan We are talking about young adults, not children. And you have missed my point. The OP was saying that the young woman didn't have a choice before but does now. The OP was clearly implying that they were, in principle, in favour of people having choices. However, banning young adults from being allowed to get married is _denying_ them a choice. So the OP was contradicting their own principle. Regardless of what your view is on marriage, it doesn't make sense for someone to claim that they subscribe to a principle and then to advocate for a position that goes against that principle. That is my point.
I love that little smile at the end, after she says she will be banished. She did this out of love for any potential kids.
Absolutely loved it.
She did it to free herself. For that community to banish her means her freedom from that horrid life and that cult.
Hu…I thought it was religion but now I feel better if it’s a cult. Trust me, that guy is asking someone to punch him and tell him his cult and he are false christians.
@@snowps1 She should have been able to get out without destroying her fertility.
@@arianebolt1575 That wouldn't have been a dramatic for the show.
They did a perfect job of casting such a distasteful man as the 'husband'.
Ok the fact that people are not against kids marrying is disgusting. Thank goodness this is brought to action
This was a very evocative episode. The guy playing the preacher did a wonderful job in the role, a very effective performance. Hopefully it can help drive some reforms.
He also did an incredible job in a Law and Order episode where he was an abusive, controlling father
He was also in Angels in the Outfield
Well, he has a naturally mean looking face which helps seat him more believably into th roles. My boyfriend does too, we were friends first so that's how that happened lol I call him my 'Grumpy Teddy Bear' lol I'll kiss him and ask him 'Hows my bear?'
I LOVE my bear 😁😊😘
Honestly, I really thought all the acting in this episode lacked depth. 🤷♀️
@@clover1az49 The script lacked nuance but that was the idea. There is also limited time to develop the characters and deliver the plot.
There are documentaries that go into more detail but they also tend to be critical of religion in general so a TV show would shy away from that.
If anything he played it straight and the young girl was way more decisive than she would be in reality.