It's a very subtle difference in sound. I did guess the Cali correctly at the beginning, and I thought that I generally preferred it during the video, but I expect that I could be fooled.
Great video. What I have found over the years is that you pay for reliability. Three times I have had pedal board malfunction. Each time (after 20 minutes of trouble shooting) it has been the cheap pedal (behringer, joyo, ect). One time this was during soundcheck. I decided at that point that I was going to pay extra for the real brand - although I admit sound quality was negligible 90% of time
Bought a Keeley ModWorkstation and a Neunaber Immerse, used proper power on both, and just after a few weeks they both messed up, I haven't even used them on a gig. Shit just happens I guess, cheap or not.
@@realtruenorth Sure, and it's probably worth mentioning that digital stuff is less reliable than its counterpart, cheap or not, and I'm not saying this as an analogue snob at all. And then there is also such thing as overpriced products, just like my Neunaber and Keeley, overpriced because they have the reliability of something that are 10 times cheaper.
When setting attack and release times I way prefer separate controls. I’d adjust each in their own for what you want to achieve. Adjust your attack time to get the transient response of your initial notes. Adjust your release based on how frequent the notes are, or tempo of your song. If you’re playing a lot of short 16th notes try adjusting the release to let go before the next 16th. That said longer release times can be good for keeping things from jumping out. Always matching attack and release times on all compressors will get you some wonky results depending on the circuit. 1176 style compressors are known for the ability to have a SUPER fast attack. Way faster than most compressor circuits are capable of.
The UA Teletronix LA 2A goes for $143 was what I was looking to get for my 2nd mini pedal board then saw the Joyo Avallon glad I saw this demo,the Cali did color the tone making it more warmer and round in a good way for me,but the Joyo was definitely more transparent allowing the pickups to ring out more,only problem I have is no dry/wet knob for parallel compression, would like a little of that warmth the Cali has plus my original signal, so I think I'll just spend the Xtra and get the UA...nice demo
At first hearing I kind of guessed the pedals because I noticed some level of noise on pedal B, but it is not that much. They are kind of close, and for the price the Joyo is quite interesting.
The Cali76 has a beautiful roundness and warmth to it that the Avallon can't quite match... But the fact you can pick one up new for less than £45 makes it a no-brainer for me! It definitely has the same character and is very similar, as far as I can tell from your comparison. I've ordered one and hope it'll be what I'm looking for. Cheers!
@@andrewclarkeguitar It arrived yesterday and it's great - very transparent and feels really nice to play. I've never got on with any of the standard guitar stompbox compressors I've owned but this is exactly what I've always been looking for. Your demo was really helpful. Thanks again!
@@MarkB.Guitar There is some compromise, new ego76 from wampler do a really good job in cloning 1176 as the hole chain from studio usage, with blend, and tone controls. Plus extra mode with all compress ratios in parallel together, as it offen was use. And cost about 200$ . Not 380$ as cali76. One of good things to look on.
My Cali 76 compact deluxe I bought second hand of eBay from gak just started to make loads of noise. Carnt return 200 quid down the gutter wish ide bought a joyo now
This kind of mind f-ed me. I was watching this whole playlist so i know how these videos usually start. I wasn't looking at the screen when this started and then after the intro thought "wait, why did he only do one pedal. He always does a comparison"... So clearly i can't tell a difference
I’m surprised I got that one. I’m surprised there is quite a bit of a difference between these two. Both sounds good just different; the Cali sounds more classic which I enjoy .
Price difference generally means component quality in the Joyo might be same general specs without the quality. Every Joyo pedal I have had has a pretty high noise floor that increases exponentially with each pedal. If you don’t want to spend $350 for a Cali76. There are some great options in the $125-$175 range that can be chosen from. Enjoyed the comparison though, compressors when set up right really can’t be heard working. I have enjoyed your channel for a couple of years. Keep them coming!!
I can't confirm that at the moment. I have the Joyo pedal at home, and it's truly fantastisch. I always say, before you cant play better than your professional equipment is, you dont really need the Pro stuff. Many people think one plays better if you are equipped with only pro stuff. It makes more sense to invest your money in a real flesh-and-blood music teacher who comes to your home and sits right next to you to explain how your instrument works. Decent technology is really affordable these days, and it's usually sufficient to get quite far with it
If you are knowing where to listen when listen to compressors there difference is quite big. Every time you've switched to Cali it like «omg what a relief». The low end and overall fullness of nature of the sound is just not on the same level unfortunately.
It's a very subtle difference in sound. I did guess the Cali correctly at the beginning, and I thought that I generally preferred it during the video, but I expect that I could be fooled.
Great video. What I have found over the years is that you pay for reliability. Three times I have had pedal board malfunction. Each time (after 20 minutes of trouble shooting) it has been the cheap pedal (behringer, joyo, ect). One time this was during soundcheck. I decided at that point that I was going to pay extra for the real brand - although I admit sound quality was negligible 90% of time
That's a fair take for sure!
Buy a few spares of the cheap one. Problem solved.
Bought a Keeley ModWorkstation and a Neunaber Immerse, used proper power on both, and just after a few weeks they both messed up, I haven't even used them on a gig. Shit just happens I guess, cheap or not.
@@JarangMabarbut still, cheap is less reliable. Cheaper parts, QC sucks. I have seen this consistently with small % of exceptions.
@@realtruenorth Sure, and it's probably worth mentioning that digital stuff is less reliable than its counterpart, cheap or not, and I'm not saying this as an analogue snob at all. And then there is also such thing as overpriced products, just like my Neunaber and Keeley, overpriced because they have the reliability of something that are 10 times cheaper.
When setting attack and release times I way prefer separate controls. I’d adjust each in their own for what you want to achieve. Adjust your attack time to get the transient response of your initial notes. Adjust your release based on how frequent the notes are, or tempo of your song. If you’re playing a lot of short 16th notes try adjusting the release to let go before the next 16th. That said longer release times can be good for keeping things from jumping out.
Always matching attack and release times on all compressors will get you some wonky results depending on the circuit. 1176 style compressors are known for the ability to have a SUPER fast attack. Way faster than most compressor circuits are capable of.
The UA Teletronix LA 2A goes for $143 was what I was looking to get for my 2nd mini pedal board then saw the Joyo Avallon glad I saw this demo,the Cali did color the tone making it more warmer and round in a good way for me,but the Joyo was definitely more transparent allowing the pickups to ring out more,only problem I have is no dry/wet knob for parallel compression, would like a little of that warmth the Cali has plus my original signal, so I think I'll just spend the Xtra and get the UA...nice demo
Can you compare the UAFX 1176 pedal to the Cali?
At first hearing I kind of guessed the pedals because I noticed some level of noise on pedal B, but it is not that much.
They are kind of close, and for the price the Joyo is quite interesting.
Walrus Audio Deep Six V3 is what I use and it's perfect. Makes clean tones sound beautiful even on a 5150.
The Cali76 has a beautiful roundness and warmth to it that the Avallon can't quite match... But the fact you can pick one up new for less than £45 makes it a no-brainer for me! It definitely has the same character and is very similar, as far as I can tell from your comparison. I've ordered one and hope it'll be what I'm looking for. Cheers!
Totally! That's great. I'm sure you'll love it. Thanks for watching!
@@andrewclarkeguitar It arrived yesterday and it's great - very transparent and feels really nice to play. I've never got on with any of the standard guitar stompbox compressors I've owned but this is exactly what I've always been looking for. Your demo was really helpful. Thanks again!
@@MarkB.Guitar There is some compromise, new ego76 from wampler do a really good job in cloning 1176 as the hole chain from studio usage, with blend, and tone controls. Plus extra mode with all compress ratios in parallel together, as it offen was use. And cost about 200$ . Not 380$ as cali76.
One of good things to look on.
@@Arwndr I ended up picking up an Avallon and I'm really happy with it! It's always on and works well with everything! 😊
@@MarkB.Guitar Nice then! )
I preferred the Avallon. More warmth but still clear..
My Cali 76 compact deluxe I bought second hand of eBay from gak just started to make loads of noise. Carnt return 200 quid down the gutter wish ide bought a joyo now
Pedal A for me!
This kind of mind f-ed me. I was watching this whole playlist so i know how these videos usually start. I wasn't looking at the screen when this started and then after the intro thought "wait, why did he only do one pedal. He always does a comparison"...
So clearly i can't tell a difference
I’m surprised I got that one. I’m surprised there is quite a bit of a difference between these two. Both sounds good just different; the Cali sounds more classic which I enjoy .
Joyo make very decent pedals for the money.
Price difference generally means component quality in the Joyo might be same general specs without the quality. Every Joyo pedal I have had has a pretty high noise floor that increases exponentially with each pedal. If you don’t want to spend $350 for a Cali76. There are some great options in the $125-$175 range that can be chosen from.
Enjoyed the comparison though, compressors when set up right really can’t be heard working.
I have enjoyed your channel for a couple of years. Keep them coming!!
exactly. noise is what i would be concerned about.
I can't confirm that at the moment. I have the Joyo pedal at home, and it's truly fantastisch. I always say, before you cant play better than your professional equipment is, you dont really need the Pro stuff. Many people think one plays better if you are equipped with only pro stuff. It makes more sense to invest your money in a real flesh-and-blood music teacher who comes to your home and sits right next to you to explain how your instrument works. Decent technology is really affordable these days, and it's usually sufficient to get quite far with it
What area some ones under 200 that would be one the quieter side?
Judging compressor differences online when UA-cam audio is compressed already seems strangely ironic 🤪
you are the Best that kind of comparison analog pedals Best wishes 👏
I'm not surprised by results )
That was heareble....
If you are knowing where to listen when listen to compressors there difference is quite big. Every time you've switched to Cali it like «omg what a relief». The low end and overall fullness of nature of the sound is just not on the same level unfortunately.
Cali sh!ts all over the Joyno