I hope this trial will be televised live. We deserve to watch them squirm. My heart hurts for the biological family of these precious boys and Rosanna has been fighting front and center from the beginning bless her beautiful heart.
They wont televise it. It will just be lingering like Gannon Stouch, TyleeRyan, JjVallow & so many others who are failed every year. They finally found LoriVallows kids burried in her bf chadDaybell's backyard yet they claimed crazy and now our tax $$ pay for Lori's hospitalization. Harsher penalties for stuff like this !
I agree that the community really raised hell about these boys- They cared more about these babies than the adoptive parents. One of them will break and start snitching- where are those boys?
im more than sure they might try and switch their plea after the evidence comes out. It has to be some very strong evidence for the district attorney to say the 2 boys were deceased 3 months before the parents reported them missing. That is very specific.
I agree ! It’s heartbreaking !! From what I can remember , Trezel ´s´mother used to work for children services and also as foster family and that allegedly played a part in the adoption process. It needs to be verified though . About why nobody noticed : I think the fact they move to Cal city 3 month prior to make the missing report help them a lot in hiding Classic and Cincere missing .. and also the pandemic.. However ,even if they were new in the neighborhood but lot of their neighbors still noticed some discrepancies… like the fact they were never at home and most of all they never saw children playing in the backyard !🚩🚩🚩 I’m really confident prosecution has some solid evidences and justice will be served for Classic and Cincere 💜
Another family has come out and wanted to know where their boys were. Apparently the murderers adopted their children as well and hasn't heard of them in 5-6 years. That's 2 boys definitely gone and 2 other boys that may be missing. This is so very sad. Because of what the Prosecutor stated in her press conference they could possibly get off. R.I.P. baby boys, you have peace now just wish it wasn't this way.
Feel confused about where these biological family members were when these poor boys needed someone. Why did these alleged monsters adopt them? How long were they living with them?
It seems like the state/government stole the boys during a visit to the emergency room. The mom picked up the boys from a family babysitter and one had a broken leg. The state took the boys into foster care right then and there and later did not give the extended family a chance to adopt the boys but handed them over to these two creeps who murdered them. If I am wrong about any of this please let me know.
@@quuqeemonster NOBODY STOLE THESE BOYS-BIO DONORS DID NOT COMPLY. SHE HAS 2 MORE OLDER KIDS WHO ALSO WERE TAKEN BY THEIR BIO DADS AFTER THESE 2 WERE PLACED IN FOSTER CARE. DON'T SPREAD CONSPIRACIES & LIES! NO STATE WORKERS ARE CREEPN' AROUND CIVILIAN HOMES 'STEALING' KIDS. YOU SOUND LIKE A FOOL...
AT....BIO FAM OBVIOUSLY DID NOT WANT THE BOYS OR COULD NOT BE APPROVED TO GET THEM. AND AS YOU SEE, ONLY 1 RALLIED FOR BOYS ALL THE WAY TO THE END..YET OTHERS ARE COMING IN 'VISIBLY' LATE(BIO DAD)🙄 TO SHOW SUPPORT. THEY DON'T WANT THE TRUTH TO BE TOLD THAT BIO MOM/DAD LOST ALL 4 OF HER KIDS AND DID NOTHING TO GET NOT EVEN 1 OF THEM BACK! THEY HAD CPS VISITS WITH KIDS AT ONE TIME-POSTED PICS ON FCBK, SO HOW DID STATE STEAL THEM? THEY DID NOT! BOTH DIDN'T FOLLOW GUIDELINES TO GET THE BOYS OR OLDER KIDS BACK-THE OLDER ONES HAVE DIFFERENT FATHERS AS WELL. IT IS PATHETIC!😡
Another mother just came forward her two boys was placed with the adoptive west family and she haven’t seen her children in over 6 years 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
There is yet another woman who says the same adoption agency gave her two children to Trezel & Jacqeline almost 6 years ago...and bio-family hasn't seen them since. True!
I’m sick of everybody. The adoptive parents. The bio parents. Extended family. Foreign family. Distant family. Whoever. All of them are some sh”t because the REAL issue is, why those innocent children had to be in foster care in the first place. The only people I have hurt for are the victims. The innocent boys. SMH. So very sorry 😞
Um. Both these scum bags mothers worked for CPS and was shopping kids to them. Bio mom was at work when her child was injured and she took him to the hospital. CPS made no attempt to place boys w family that’s how you know they were kid shopping for welfare. Ps. Scum didn’t work at least bio mom worked ffs.
Oh an another mother has come forward that they had her two boys who haven’t been seen in over 5 years. Madgenia Williams is the other bio mom missing her sons.
I was wondering what their original names were. I didn’t like thinking of them with the names their adopters gave them. I don’t even change dogs’ names when I adopt new ones. I can’t imagine doing that to human children.
I am still wondering what their older children said, they would know how long the those two babies were gone, so sad these evil people adopt children for money and not love , this world we are living in is full of heartless demons . You can not call people this human.
Yo THAT'S AV WATCHMAN!! That dude has been on this case since the beginning! He's been so invested and has spent so much time, effort and money in searching for those boys! Dude is a legend
yes the family member also thank AV WATCHMAN and the other UA-camrs ☺️ she said that when the media wouldn't listen to them the UA-camrs were the ones that covered everything but of course the media wasn't going to show that part they cut it off ... I was on AV WATCHMAN live when she Thank him and the other UA-camrs
Whats shocking and appalling is the fact that we all knewsince day one who held the answers to where orrin and orsin went - their mother deserves justice and i bet trezzel and jaqueline really thought they had gotten away with it for a sec
@Tony Alston I wondered that, too. All these "biological family" members, father, cousin, etc., why weren't the boys with any of them? Usually child protective services places kids with biological family if they have any, so why didn't any of their family step up?
@@tracyperez1755 because cps snatched the kids from the mother friend who wanted the boys without any reason they chose to place these babies in the custody of these tyrants CPS never even consider other family members they're notorious for this behavior knowing full well that placing children with family and friends people they're familiar with does the least amount of damage to children then putting them with strangers and to think these monsters change their names is horrific i adopted a two year old cat and wouldn't change his name because he's familiar with it. These monsters didn't care about how the kids would react to new names i think they did it on purpose so they can hide what they did to them because they moved to the new house without these boys no camera nor neighbors ever seen them. I believe one of the children in that home told what they saw going on yet these monsters rather fight possibly putting these children on the stand to see their evil faces. I hope the child or children that testify stays strong and isn't afraid of them and know they're probably in a better position out of the home but CPS needs to correct this disgusting behavior and put these children in better positions with people they know.
@Tony Alston get this! These scum bags mothers both work for CPS. The mom was at work when one child was injured and no attempt was made to place them w family or father. The scum bags mothers were shuffling kids to them. Shocker the scum didn’t even have jobs yet bio mom DID! The system is broken!
@Tony Alston a news report interviewing the bio-mom said that the boys were placed in foster care while the mom was undergoing surgery (and I’m assuming recovering). So it’s confusing to sometimes hear “adoptive parents” and other times “foster parents”. Everyone is in outrage that family members didn’t step in and take the boys in. But actually it’s quite normal for kids to go into temporary care to give parents respite. And normally those foster care homes are more suitable than with family members who may have accommodation that’s too small or not have the financial means. Others are saying the Mom didn’t get much of a say in the decision, which they also maybe some truth in. My parents did short term fostering when I was a kid and a couple of times it was for a month or two when their parents couldn’t take of them but took them back once circumstances had been resolved.
WTF whether seen or unseen No law gives right to adopt somebody else bloodline children babies toddlers then kill them periodt So you need to Hush and go sit in a corner adult watch and learn something Unity
My opinion is I totally understand that Cps does take away kids from loving caring parents and make up lies and so on .I also don’t know the bio moms situation but why didn’t she fight to get the boys back and where was there family before they got sent to the foster parents.truly a sad story
It looks like the reporter was holding in tears it’s really sad these people are pure evil to go for many years knowing that they killed these innocent boys why adopt them and then kill them it makes no sense
Question: Was FRAUD Charge overlooked? These so called Foster/Adoptive parents collected Foster Care/Adoption checks while these Lil boys had allegedly already been MURDERED⁉️‼️😶
These adoptive families need to be vetted and followed more closely… there is too many cases of children taken from the bio family, just to be KILLED or abused by the foster or adoptive family…. This is not a one time tragedy… this happens over and over again. Something NEEDS to change. Imagine being told that you are an unfit parent, losing your children, and then finding out they were KILLED by the people that the state deemed a safer place. Sickening.
There are tons of videos and pictures of the boys when they were younger taken by bio mom and the 1st foster home. It’s once they were with the Wests that the pictures stopped. AF Pennington Presents True Crime has a cute 3 min video. The boys look happy and loved.
@@violetsrayreikishop2 people that haven’t been exposed to the accent don’t know what it is. Plus, most of her other words were pretty clear and not heavy on the accent.
I'm so angry about these horrific stories!😤😤. Stop killing Innocent precious Angels!!! RIP sweethearts. So sorry beautiful babies for what you endured...💔😭💔
Where was that cousin when the kids were removed from the home ? Now those angels have all the family support, but when they needed help nobody stepped up All kids go to family members first before DCSF finds them a home.
@@NEnigma777 Usually CPS looks for bio Family or extended bio Family if a Child is taken away, and they were not available, thats Facts, i however remooved my Comment out of Respect for their Grief. However everyone is entitled to their own Opinion, thats out of Yer Control. I am fine in my Life though, very happy person, Thank you.
@@raphaelbrown3855 this might or might not be the case but tbh. they do not look fit to care for Children. Just saying......to me at least they look like People who have been taking hard Drugs 4 a very long Time. Being on Welfare is no Excuse 4 that, on the Contrary, you can and should make sure Children have good Meals, sufficient Sleep, Daily Hygiene and their Emotional Needs are met. Just saying what my Impression is. The Adoptive Fam. also look creepy to me, Bodylanguage, wearing Masks outside when needing to search for kids, their entire Posture-Words. etc. She seems a bit more stable, however true Mom's would act differently if Children went missing. She seems cold as Ice....and while I understand what Shock is, still there seems to be a horrendous lack of true Empathy in them.
With that plea, these two monsters will not reveal the bodies. Why the hell would they? Now they will make the prosecutor work to prove they are guilty. We may never know the cause of death if the bodies are not found...but I hope I am wrong.
The reason I think they are pleading not guilty is because the bodies of the babies have not been found yet..but for them to be held without bail means that that the police have very strong leads..just sad what happened to the little boys
Maybe these adoptive parents think they can get away with this if the little boys aren't found. In the case of Kaylee Anthony they did not find her body until 6 months after she went "missing". There was so much evidence that her death was a homicide but tot mom had a super sleazy lawyer that managed to get her off. Pisses everyone off to this day.
they made a huge mistake letting these two adopt and i dunno how they managed to do so.the family of the boys wouldve taken care of them..if not the parents at the time for whatever reason.. other family members would have.i cant believe they let the system let these two adopt...
How are you just throwing out accusations when you have no idea how this happened CPS never gave family a chance and not all family have room to care for more children especially in a place like California where people barley able to survive and some can't even afford a regular apartment.
Their names are Classic and Cincere.. Their BIRTH Names. We cannot lose site that these babies should have NEVER EVER been taken from Ryan.. Their Mother. MANY HANDS are bloody. We love Roe Roe.. She has been a CHAMPION for these babies, EVERY family should have family like her. AV Watchmen United we Stand, Steve, has been a voice for these babies, boots on the ground, unlike any other. I am so thankful these THINGS are locked up, but the guilt runs DEEP AND WIDE!! These people should have NEVER been allowed to have these babies or any other child. Ever. They didnt even meet the FEDERAL requirements to adopt..much leas state. You cant adopt without income yet they did.. Where were post placement visits? How in Gods name was this allowed?? Who in the system turned a blind eye? Someone did. A few someones did.. And they should also be held accountable. Sadly these babies arent the only ones, this isnt the first case.. Its just the first time it hasnt been swept away and hidden. I have looked in parks, cars, playgrounds, shared post and their pics even w long distance truck drivers to watch for them, for a little over a year now.. Donating, sharing, supporting those searching and PRAYING SO HARD .. All hoping to see where they were still alive and with someone else. How does my heart stop looking for them? I Know there is a ugly truth that they are gone.. But my heart cant accept it. Not right now. They are too much a part of my heart to just say oh they are gone, move along.. If you pray PLEASE pray in agreement with me that these babies bodies are found so they can go home to their Momma, Ryan. They should have NEVER been taken, they would be with her today alive and well and thriving.. My heart hurts for her. Now she has to hear what they did to her babies but also ALL HOPE has been taken from her. Omgosh...My heart is just SICK!! Prayers for Ryan, Roe Roe, their Dad, family and all who have come to know and love these babies as their own. Run on the soft green hills babies, splash in the crystal river, skip down the street of gold and rest in Jesus Arms.. No One will EVER hurt you again. May Justice be swift, to the fullest extent and flow from GODS THRONE upon ALL who had ANY part if this. We love you Classic and Cincere.
I feel so happy to see them in those jumpsuits finally I hope they don’t have to cut a deal to find the boys, but I’m hoping the family can get closure
I hope we can find them instead of these monsters cutting a deal because they deserve life imprisonment and I'm happy they'll be miserable due to prisoners that hate people like them.
I think camera footage police dogs and the other children is how this evidence unfolded yet these monsters actually think they can beat the charges i hope they get the maximum punishment allowed.
why were they remooved in the first place though? and where was their rest of family helping? nowhere! and mostly why are such people allowed to be adoptive parents, can child services not discern who is fit enough to be one and why is there not some kind of course to pass b4 you can be one, etc. etc. there is so much more wrong with this then meets the eye. and finally, everyone is innocent untill truly prooven guilty! just saying
@@SavedByJesusHeimatLiebe Why was the extended family approved to be able to foster but yet bypassed and the boys adopted out? Because CPS puts profit before the welfare of children.
@@HayleeD13 You know more then me........I must say in Order to be fair. Generally they should not and at least in my Country do NOT do that, however Ye do have a strong Point because I heard in NYC they-CPS illegally tested non aprooved Drugs on Foster Children, even HIV Drugs and it ended fatally. 😱😤😢
Were there no checks on this lot after the adoptions of these kids? Wtaf????? How did they manage to have so many kids from adoption AS WELL as biological ones with ZERO inspection from adoption??? This is outrageous.
Finally I saw that fake interview she swaying and he with his arms folded and under his arm pitts clear bad body language showing deception glad the got them trash bags🤨😤
@@Liza-cl2gb - Yes, you are correct!! One of the boys had a fractured leg bone and the biological mother waited several days before bothering to take him to the emergency room.
@@ceceliasutor9566 I am disgusted at the misinformation and ignorance amongst these people. ThOse innocents were abused by both sets of parents. Truth is the truth and at court it will shame the maternal and paternal,families with their fake concern now they are allegedly deceased.
If these parents are guilty then They deserve what ever they get but what I don't like is the bio family acting like they care of u cared so much why were the children not wifi family in the First place ????
They are hitting the boys they either have those boys trap in the freezer or they must bury them or threw them some were far away but not in the city those boys are beautiful and adopted took the kids life away I almost cried
AV United we stand.. UA-camr Steve was there! He has followed this case from the beginning! Go subscribe to him. He's a great guy! Justice for O& O 🕊️🕊️
My question is how come the Family did not take the Boys in instead of being put in foster homes, then Adopted within a year? Maybe the judge needs to be checked out?
Poor babies was failed by everyone 😢 why do mother let their kids get caught up in the system ,I would walk through hell and high-water to be with my children and grandchildren, I would do anything ,I don't understand it
@@tima2553 and I don't understand it ,I raised my two myself and got custody of my two nephews and my niece, and I was poor minimum wage job no assistance no food stamps we ate at home ,alot of pinto beans and cornbread, but they had a home and never went hungry .they gotta have some reason to try n take them kids ,and to adopt them out means not good
Its about time! I know because they don't have the bodies unfortunately.. the police had to cross there T 's and dot the I's so that those beautiful innocent defenceless babies can get justice. My prayers go out to the loved ones of these little prince's I hope you get the answers that's needed and those who are guilty pay 🙏
Javal, drezlin wtf who are these reporters?
Yeah she flubbed that whole thing. Amateur lol she’ll get the hang of it
Right?!?!?
😂
Right smdh
I hope this trial will be televised live. We deserve to watch them squirm. My heart hurts for the biological family of these precious boys and Rosanna has been fighting front and center from the beginning bless her beautiful heart.
Same!!!
They wont televise it. It will just be lingering like Gannon Stouch, TyleeRyan, JjVallow & so many others who are failed every year. They finally found LoriVallows kids burried in her bf chadDaybell's backyard yet they claimed crazy and now our tax $$ pay for Lori's hospitalization. Harsher penalties for stuff like this !
I agree that the community really raised hell about these boys- They cared more about these babies than the adoptive parents. One of them will break and start snitching- where are those boys?
im more than sure they might try and switch their plea after the evidence comes out. It has to be some very strong evidence for the district attorney to say the 2 boys were deceased 3 months before the parents reported them missing. That is very specific.
@@Blue_SeaSmoke I wonder if she will claim domestic violence, and him, mental illness!!
Can we say I hope this woman isn’t covering other news story’s geez 🙄 she didn’t know what she wanted to say rest easy sincere and classic 🙏🏾💜
I liked the fact that you used the boys real names… I like their names Sincere and Classic. I don’t know why they weren’t with the family, do you?
Ha that actually caught me off guard a little. But, gotta hand it to the reporter she keep on trucking. She'll get better. Probably first time.
@Leena Wexler who cares about a piece of paper? Classic and Cincere!
This so sad ! I want to know how these people were able to adopt the beautiful babies. How no one noticed the children were missing for three month.
I agree ! It’s heartbreaking !! From what I can remember , Trezel ´s´mother used to work for children services and also as foster family and that allegedly played a part in the adoption process. It needs to be verified though .
About why nobody noticed : I think the fact they move to Cal city 3 month prior to make the missing report help them a lot in hiding Classic and Cincere missing .. and also the pandemic..
However ,even if they were new in the neighborhood but lot of their neighbors still noticed some discrepancies… like the fact they were never at home and most of all they never saw children playing in the backyard !🚩🚩🚩
I’m really confident prosecution has some solid evidences and justice will be served for Classic and Cincere 💜
Trayzel parents knew imo
@@jeanP924 I agree. They need to be charged as well.
Another family has come out and wanted to know where their boys were. Apparently the murderers adopted their children as well and hasn't heard of them in 5-6 years. That's 2 boys definitely gone and 2 other boys that may be missing. This is so very sad. Because of what the Prosecutor stated in her press conference they could possibly get off. R.I.P. baby boys, you have peace now just wish it wasn't this way.
Feel confused about where these biological family members were when these poor boys needed someone. Why did these alleged monsters adopt them? How long were they living with them?
It seems like the state/government stole the boys during a visit to the emergency room. The mom picked up the boys from a family babysitter and one had a broken leg. The state took the boys into foster care right then and there and later did not give the extended family a chance to adopt the boys but handed them over to these two creeps who murdered them. If I am wrong about any of this please let me know.
@@quuqeemonster NOBODY STOLE THESE BOYS-BIO DONORS DID NOT COMPLY. SHE HAS 2 MORE OLDER KIDS WHO ALSO WERE TAKEN BY THEIR BIO DADS AFTER THESE 2 WERE PLACED IN FOSTER CARE. DON'T SPREAD CONSPIRACIES & LIES! NO STATE WORKERS ARE CREEPN' AROUND CIVILIAN HOMES 'STEALING' KIDS. YOU SOUND LIKE A FOOL...
AT....BIO FAM OBVIOUSLY DID NOT WANT THE BOYS OR COULD NOT BE APPROVED TO GET THEM. AND AS YOU SEE, ONLY 1 RALLIED FOR BOYS ALL THE WAY TO THE END..YET OTHERS ARE COMING IN 'VISIBLY' LATE(BIO DAD)🙄 TO SHOW SUPPORT. THEY DON'T WANT THE TRUTH TO BE TOLD THAT BIO MOM/DAD LOST ALL 4 OF HER KIDS AND DID NOTHING TO GET NOT EVEN 1 OF THEM BACK! THEY HAD CPS VISITS WITH KIDS AT ONE TIME-POSTED PICS ON FCBK, SO HOW DID STATE STEAL THEM? THEY DID NOT! BOTH DIDN'T FOLLOW GUIDELINES TO GET THE BOYS OR OLDER KIDS BACK-THE OLDER ONES HAVE DIFFERENT FATHERS AS WELL. IT IS PATHETIC!😡
Another mother just came forward her two boys was placed with the adoptive west family and she haven’t seen her children in over 6 years 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@@erikalewis5407 where r ppl seeing this can u post please
It's so sad that NO ONE could do right by these children. My heart breaks for them
There is yet another woman who says the same adoption agency gave her two children to Trezel & Jacqeline almost 6 years ago...and bio-family hasn't seen them since. True!
Wow do you have a link with more info iv never heard this before
@@xsparklinggemzx I watched it yesterday on KGET news, scary stuff.
Wow! Is this true????
No way
@@Helloskyyt321 yes a woman appeared wanting proof of life for her children that were or are in the wests care.
I’m sick of everybody. The adoptive parents. The bio parents. Extended family. Foreign family. Distant family. Whoever. All of them are some sh”t because the REAL issue is, why those innocent children had to be in foster care in the first place. The only people I have hurt for are the victims. The innocent boys. SMH. So very sorry 😞
Truth! These boys didn't have a single person step up for them until they were gone. 🦋🦋
@@feralon9570 EXACTLY!!!
Um. Both these scum bags mothers worked for CPS and was shopping kids to them. Bio mom was at work when her child was injured and she took him to the hospital. CPS made no attempt to place boys w family that’s how you know they were kid shopping for welfare. Ps. Scum didn’t work at least bio mom worked ffs.
Oh an another mother has come forward that they had her two boys who haven’t been seen in over 5 years. Madgenia Williams is the other bio mom missing her sons.
No you should be upset with CPS. It’s obvious the real family loved those babies
RIP Classic and Cincere. 🕯🕯 I will use their true names not the names their killers gave them.
Such beautiful names!
Child services departments are always corrupt. When will the citizens get this?
Classic and Cincere??
@@laylawalker8897 yes their birth names
I was wondering what their original names were. I didn’t like thinking of them with the names their adopters gave them. I don’t even change dogs’ names when I adopt new ones. I can’t imagine doing that to human children.
I am still wondering what their older children said, they would know how long the those two babies were gone, so sad these evil people adopt children for money and not love , this world we are living in is full of heartless demons . You can not call people this human.
Where's Classic & Cincere?
I love how she couldn't say his name at all 🤣👏
At all. The struggle was real.
4 years with a degree in journalism and we produce that hot mess...I mean she could have practiced the names a little in her head prior to the shot.
Yo THAT'S AV WATCHMAN!! That dude has been on this case since the beginning! He's been so invested and has spent so much time, effort and money in searching for those boys! Dude is a legend
yes the family member also thank AV WATCHMAN and the other UA-camrs ☺️ she said that when the media wouldn't listen to them the UA-camrs were the ones that covered everything but of course the media wasn't going to show that part they cut it off ... I was on AV WATCHMAN live when she Thank him and the other UA-camrs
Guilty, their are KILLERS, and LIARS
Whats shocking and appalling is the fact that we all knewsince day one who held the answers to where orrin and orsin went - their mother deserves justice and i bet trezzel and jaqueline really thought they had gotten away with it for a sec
@Tony Alston I wondered that, too. All these "biological family" members, father, cousin, etc., why weren't the boys with any of them? Usually child protective services places kids with biological family if they have any, so why didn't any of their family step up?
@@tracyperez1755 because cps snatched the kids from the mother friend who wanted the boys without any reason they chose to place these babies in the custody of these tyrants CPS never even consider other family members they're notorious for this behavior knowing full well that placing children with family and friends people they're familiar with does the least amount of damage to children then putting them with strangers and to think these monsters change their names is horrific i adopted a two year old cat and wouldn't change his name because he's familiar with it. These monsters didn't care about how the kids would react to new names i think they did it on purpose so they can hide what they did to them because they moved to the new house without these boys no camera nor neighbors ever seen them. I believe one of the children in that home told what they saw going on yet these monsters rather fight possibly putting these children on the stand to see their evil faces. I hope the child or children that testify stays strong and isn't afraid of them and know they're probably in a better position out of the home but CPS needs to correct this disgusting behavior and put these children in better positions with people they know.
@Tony Alston Couldn't have been lost for anything as bad as what these two monsters did
@Tony Alston get this! These scum bags mothers both work for CPS. The mom was at work when one child was injured and no attempt was made to place them w family or father. The scum bags mothers were shuffling kids to them. Shocker the scum didn’t even have jobs yet bio mom DID! The system is broken!
@Tony Alston a news report interviewing the bio-mom said that the boys were placed in foster care while the mom was undergoing surgery (and I’m assuming recovering). So it’s confusing to sometimes hear “adoptive parents” and other times “foster parents”.
Everyone is in outrage that family members didn’t step in and take the boys in. But actually it’s quite normal for kids to go into temporary care to give parents respite. And normally those foster care homes are more suitable than with family members who may have accommodation that’s too small or not have the financial means. Others are saying the Mom didn’t get much of a say in the decision, which they also maybe some truth in.
My parents did short term fostering when I was a kid and a couple of times it was for a month or two when their parents couldn’t take of them but took them back once circumstances had been resolved.
Prayers for a Sentencing for them...Judge seems great..👍.....blessings to the boys. 🙏🏽
All these cousins and family members pop up after the boys are dead where were they when they were alove5
WTF whether seen or unseen No law gives right to adopt somebody else bloodline children babies toddlers then kill them periodt So you need to Hush and go sit in a corner adult watch and learn something Unity
exactly this
My opinion is I totally understand that Cps does take away kids from loving caring parents and make up lies and so on .I also don’t know the bio moms situation but why didn’t she fight to get the boys back and where was there family before they got sent to the foster parents.truly a sad story
It looks like the reporter was holding in tears it’s really sad these people are pure evil to go for many years knowing that they killed these innocent boys why adopt them and then kill them it makes no sense
I am so happy that something is being done. May someone speak up and set these babies free.
They dont ever ever deserve kids ever
Question: Was FRAUD Charge overlooked? These so called Foster/Adoptive parents collected Foster Care/Adoption checks while these Lil boys had allegedly already been MURDERED⁉️‼️😶
That reporter was so unprofessionally tongue tied
This lady doesn't even know this murderers name🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
All that set up time for the shot and ...who will I be talking about?
FINALLY!!!!! Thank God!!!
Amen!!!
These adoptive families need to be vetted and followed more closely… there is too many cases of children taken from the bio family, just to be KILLED or abused by the foster or adoptive family…. This is not a one time tragedy… this happens over and over again. Something NEEDS to change. Imagine being told that you are an unfit parent, losing your children, and then finding out they were KILLED by the people that the state deemed a safer place. Sickening.
Crazy how the only photo they got of the second baby is in black and white just shows they never had a chance with there biological parents and foster
There are pics of the boys with bio mom. Not with adopted mom.
Is that from 1980's Kodak instant photos?!!!
There are tons of videos and pictures of the boys when they were younger taken by bio mom and the 1st foster home. It’s once they were with the Wests that the pictures stopped. AF Pennington Presents True Crime has a cute 3 min video. The boys look happy and loved.
@@HayleeD13 thank you for clarifying this.
I was distracted by the reporter. She needs practice.
Her mouth was super raggedy
the other kids talked!!!! i always wondered what they would reveal
The reporter was a hot mess.
They are evil.
"This baby this baby"
Don't you mean those babies? I swear people just come out to these things for attention.
I think it’s because she’s Hispanic, she has a slight accent.
English is obviously not her mother tongue sir
You're disgusting she obviously speaks Spanish which i live in areas with Spanish speaking people it's her accent it's not for attention.
@@violetsrayreikishop2 people that haven’t been exposed to the accent don’t know what it is. Plus, most of her other words were pretty clear and not heavy on the accent.
Did you see his attorney..she costs $$$$$
These two little boys were let down by both the adoptive and the biological parents!!
So glad these monsters r finally behind bars
I'm so angry about these horrific stories!😤😤. Stop killing Innocent precious Angels!!! RIP sweethearts. So sorry beautiful babies for what you endured...💔😭💔
why was the reporter stuttering so damn much 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
I'm so happy they're behind bars . I pray they never see the light of day again in life.
Where was that cousin when the kids were removed from the home ? Now those angels have all the family support, but when they needed help nobody stepped up
All kids go to family members first before DCSF finds them a home.
What do you expect them to do against CPS? You guys are so harsh judging this family. Worry about your own life instead of judging others
@@NEnigma777 Usually CPS looks for bio Family or extended bio Family if a Child is taken away, and they were not available, thats Facts, i however remooved my Comment out of Respect for their Grief. However everyone is entitled to their own Opinion, thats out of Yer Control.
I am fine in my Life though, very happy person, Thank you.
Cps over here in mass be denying family left and right we don’t know the circumstances
@@raphaelbrown3855 this might or might not be the case but tbh. they do not look fit to care for Children. Just saying......to me at least they look like People who have been taking hard Drugs 4 a very long Time. Being on Welfare is no Excuse 4 that, on the Contrary, you can and should make sure Children have good Meals, sufficient Sleep, Daily Hygiene and their Emotional Needs are met. Just saying what my Impression is. The Adoptive Fam. also look creepy to me, Bodylanguage, wearing Masks outside when needing to search for kids, their entire Posture-Words. etc. She seems a bit more stable, however true Mom's would act differently if Children went missing. She seems cold as Ice....and while I understand what Shock is, still there seems to be a horrendous lack of true Empathy in them.
With that plea, these two monsters will not reveal the bodies. Why the hell would they? Now they will make the prosecutor work to prove they are guilty. We may never know the cause of death if the bodies are not found...but I hope I am wrong.
They guilty
The reason I think they are pleading not guilty is because the bodies of the babies have not been found yet..but for them to be held without bail means that that the police have very strong leads..just sad what happened to the little boys
Maybe these adoptive parents think they can get away with this if the little boys aren't found. In the case of Kaylee Anthony they did not find her body until 6 months after she went "missing". There was so much evidence that her death was a homicide but tot mom had a super sleazy lawyer that managed to get her off. Pisses everyone off to this day.
Strange appearances of so many family & freinds of the brothers but not one of them had custody. Why is that ???
Bye bye Taylor not your day will all that mispronounced words
Let there faces be shown!!!
thank you to the community members who did not stop
💯💯💯💯💯
They’re lucky they get to wear mask.
As soon as I saw these 2 boys missing on the news, I knew it had to do something with a parent or a parents boyfriend.
they made a huge mistake letting these two adopt and i dunno how they managed to do so.the family of the boys wouldve taken care of them..if not the parents at the time for whatever reason.. other family members would have.i cant believe they let the system let these two adopt...
I hate to even say this but where was the bio family before? And was it an open adoption? Seems the all failed these boys.
Sorry to be harsh 🤷🏼♀️
MONSTERS
Those are evil people. Sorry for your loss
Prayers for the family. Pray for them boys
It's a relief now? She can sleep now? She should've been there for those kids when they were taken away from social services!
How are you just throwing out accusations when you have no idea how this happened CPS never gave family a chance and not all family have room to care for more children especially in a place like California where people barley able to survive and some can't even afford a regular apartment.
She did fight for them. Check your facts.
They know whatbthey did
Their names are Classic and Cincere.. Their BIRTH Names. We cannot lose site that these babies should have NEVER EVER been taken from Ryan.. Their Mother. MANY HANDS are bloody.
We love Roe Roe.. She has been a CHAMPION for these babies, EVERY family should have family like her. AV Watchmen United we Stand, Steve, has been a voice for these babies, boots on the ground, unlike any other. I am so thankful these THINGS are locked up, but the guilt runs DEEP AND WIDE!! These people should have NEVER been allowed to have these babies or any other child. Ever. They didnt even meet the FEDERAL requirements to adopt..much leas state. You cant adopt without income yet they did.. Where were post placement visits? How in Gods name was this allowed?? Who in the system turned a blind eye? Someone did. A few someones did.. And they should also be held accountable.
Sadly these babies arent the only ones, this isnt the first case.. Its just the first time it hasnt been swept away and hidden. I have looked in parks, cars, playgrounds, shared post and their pics even w long distance truck drivers to watch for them, for a little over a year now.. Donating, sharing, supporting those searching and PRAYING SO HARD .. All hoping to see where they were still alive and with someone else. How does my heart stop looking for them? I Know there is a ugly truth that they are gone.. But my heart cant accept it. Not right now. They are too much a part of my heart to just say oh they are gone, move along..
If you pray PLEASE pray in agreement with me that these babies bodies are found so they can go home to their Momma, Ryan. They should have NEVER been taken, they would be with her today alive and well and thriving.. My heart hurts for her. Now she has to hear what they did to her babies but also ALL HOPE has been taken from her. Omgosh...My heart is just SICK!! Prayers for Ryan, Roe Roe, their Dad, family and all who have come to know and love these babies as their own.
Run on the soft green hills babies, splash in the crystal river, skip down the street of gold and rest in Jesus Arms.. No One will EVER hurt you again. May Justice be swift, to the fullest extent and flow from GODS THRONE upon ALL who had ANY part if this.
We love you Classic and Cincere.
Where was the bio family when they were put up for adoption? This is just a terrible tragedy....but for real, where were they?
I feel so happy to see them in those jumpsuits finally I hope they don’t have to cut a deal to find the boys, but I’m hoping the family can get closure
I hope we can find them instead of these monsters cutting a deal because they deserve life imprisonment and I'm happy they'll be miserable due to prisoners that hate people like them.
Praying for Justice for the family
Why would they do this? What was their motive?
Glad they're in custody but I'm curious on how the evidence fortunately came about
I think camera footage police dogs and the other children is how this evidence unfolded yet these monsters actually think they can beat the charges i hope they get the maximum punishment allowed.
@@violetsrayreikishop2 💯💯💯👍👍👍
I hope they get locked up for the rest of their naturals if found guilty
Those devils 🤮👿
in some of the pictures of those boys, they looked so skinny...they looked healthy and happy with their bio mom...
why were they remooved in the first place though? and where was their rest of family helping? nowhere! and mostly why are such people allowed to be adoptive parents, can child services not discern who is fit enough to be one and why is there not some kind of course to pass b4 you can be one, etc. etc. there is so much more wrong with this then meets the eye. and finally, everyone is innocent untill truly prooven guilty! just saying
@@SavedByJesusHeimatLiebe Why was the extended family approved to be able to foster but yet bypassed and the boys adopted out? Because CPS puts profit before the welfare of children.
@@HayleeD13 You know more then me........I must say in Order to be fair. Generally they should not and at least in my Country do NOT do that, however Ye do have a strong Point because I heard in NYC they-CPS illegally tested non aprooved Drugs on Foster Children, even HIV Drugs and it ended fatally. 😱😤😢
Are those the only two photos that were ever taken over those little boys? I’d like to see pics of them enjoying life like kids are supposed to.
Lots of other you tube channels have tons of pictures. AF Pennington Presents True Crime has a cute 3 min video of the boys when they were younger.
Were there no checks on this lot after the adoptions of these kids? Wtaf????? How did they manage to have so many kids from adoption AS WELL as biological ones with ZERO inspection from adoption??? This is outrageous.
Where’s these baby’s bodies at? How were they killed? Poor babes. Poor family. Just sickening…
Poor little boys
Finally dang!
Fumble!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Lol that reporter killed it!
Is this a corrupt court?
May justice prevail !
Better hope they didn’t adopt out any other children that ended up deceased
Let's pray they have a bit of humanity left to tell the real parents where they've buried them 🙏 🙏🙏🙏
Where are the children that were alive and took from them they are first hand witnesses
Aunt Ro Ro 🙏🙏🙏
Finally I saw that fake interview she swaying and he with his arms folded and under his arm pitts clear bad body language showing deception glad the got them trash bags🤨😤
I hope they bury them under the jail for what they did to those precious baby's
I can't wait for some real SOLID answers.
I'm just wondering how many more cases like this have to happen before we the people demand and overhaul of the child welfare system.
Where are the other missing children???
Outrageous the biological family should have cared for their abused nephews! They were removed due to their injuries, to then be given to murderers.
Do your research
@@LisaNH934 Suggest you do yours. They were adopted non of the family stepped in.
@@Liza-cl2gb - Yes, you are correct!! One of the boys had a fractured leg bone and the biological mother waited several days before bothering to take him to the emergency room.
@@ceceliasutor9566 I am disgusted at the misinformation and ignorance amongst these people. ThOse innocents were abused by both sets of parents. Truth is the truth and at court it will shame the maternal and paternal,families with their fake concern now they are allegedly deceased.
@@Liza-cl2gb - Yep!
I don’t believe they are dead. I believe the cruel parents sold them.
It comes to a tragic end. The boys are allegedly murdered by two monsters called West's!! 😥😥😥😥
Prayers
The inmate should. Force the parents where. The bodies. Of Orson and Orrin west. Are buried
Where the boys family mom, grandma or dad why is the boyish cousin always talking to the reporter she be press for media attention🙆🏽♂️
Trial the people who took those innocent little children away from their biological mother too to this horror.
If these parents are guilty then
They deserve what ever they get but what I don't like is the bio family acting like they care of u cared so much why were the children not wifi family in the
First place ????
They are hitting the boys they either have those boys trap in the freezer or they must bury them or threw them some were far away but not in the city those boys are beautiful and adopted took the kids life away I almost cried
AV United we stand.. UA-camr Steve was there! He has followed this case from the beginning! Go subscribe to him. He's a great guy! Justice for O& O 🕊️🕊️
Cincere and Classic
@@pamelarodriguez5217 Finding the boys are the main focus right now! Not you police checking!!!
Still being muzzled in the USA
My question is how come the Family did not take the Boys in instead of being put in foster homes, then Adopted within a year? Maybe the judge needs to be checked out?
@@kerncountystorieskcs3693 Are you saying this is a Common Occurrence? Taking kids away from their families? How many came up Missing or Dead?
Poor babies was failed by everyone 😢 why do mother let their kids get caught up in the system ,I would walk through hell and high-water to be with my children and grandchildren, I would do anything ,I don't understand it
She did! She did everything the court sucks. Get your facts straight before. CPS can be the worst enemy for the kids.
@@tima2553 if they done everything right and like they was supposed to then why in the world did they get adopted out
@@tima2553 and I don't understand it ,I raised my two myself and got custody of my two nephews and my niece, and I was poor minimum wage job no assistance no food stamps we ate at home ,alot of pinto beans and cornbread, but they had a home and never went hungry .they gotta have some reason to try n take them kids ,and to adopt them out means not good
@@chickasawstarrmountain9747 -You are an Angel for helping so many kids! God Bless you!
@@theabrescia1955 ❤
Dey caoled dey caydes mane
I see you AV Watchman💯
Mar 4 2022
Its about time! I know because they don't have the bodies unfortunately.. the police had to cross there T 's and dot the I's so that those beautiful innocent defenceless babies can get justice. My prayers go out to the loved ones of these little prince's I hope you get the answers that's needed and those who are guilty pay 🙏
Iktr. Da cousin been there from the beginning. That’s what’s up! Put them under the jail. How u kill 2 babies & go on wit ya life??? EVIL!