People have been asking for the study about increased mortality. Here it is to the best of my knowledge: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3555979/ ps don't forget to SUBSCRIBE!
I hope you don't delete this. Anyways the study is talking about low carbohydrate diets with HIGH protein intake, right? Ketogenic diets are supposed to be moderate intake of protein. Not supposed to be taking in a lot of protein and many people do a more Atkins kind of diet thinking it's ketogenic but yeah...
A relative risk increase of 30% is meaningless in that type of study. Mortality was 5.9%, that means that meat eaters had only 2% increased absolute risk. That's nothing, considering that since it is an observational study, there are bound to be counfounding factors which weren't accounted for.
The study is referring to low carb, HIGH protein. That is Atkins, not Keto🙄. The guy is a doctor....geez, you would think he would be intelligent enough to know the difference🤦♀️
If you cannot be honest and just report things based on exactly what they are, do not expect any reasonable omnivore to ever see your point of view. It just comes across as deceptive.
My family laughs at me when I bring my own food on holidays. It's so bizarre that some think eating only plants is more shocking than raising, killing, and eating animal parts out of a styrofoam tray wrapped in plastic.
So, you think no animals or insects are killed when creating plant based food? The best way is to get meat from local farmers that treat their animals with respect.
@@vegardbell our planet has 8 billion people currently and will peak at 10 billion within the next decade or so. We do not have enough land or ocean to achieve everyone eating meat and fish from ethical sustainable sources. Everyone needs to drastically cut their animal protein consumption ifmthe planet is to have a chance.
I ate low carb and Keto for several years and ignored my high cholesterol as they said not to worry about it. I then ended up being diagnosed with peripheral Artery disease. I am now vegan and hope that people understand all health numbers and markers matter. I actually am already feeling better in just 2 months! I am following Dr. Esselstyn's book.
54321Truth Hah, hah, think what you want. I have a page I run with my paper work and story. Hide your head in the sand...it’s your life. Cholesterol 349 in 5 weeks of WFPB it dropped just over 100 points. Now under 200. Troll.....be gone long one!
What works for you is great. What about the fact that every cell in our body needs cholesterol? If the main proof people use of cholesterol causing heart disease is the Seven Country Study, yikes. Talk about cherry picking your data. Anyone who says all meat or all veggies is the best thing for you doesn't know you. We all have different situations going on and our individual genetics may favor some foods over others. Don't know of any Jainists or Hindus that have lived to 150. Everybody seems to die roughly the same amount of time.
@@thecakeisalie6601 Moronic reply. It is only through change that any of us became plant based in the first place. The further you drill down into the science, the easier it is to pass on the meat and dairy. Of course, you could just continue to cling to your "I'm not intelligent enough to learn and grow" defense. Food for thought.
Reversed mother’s Stage 4 colon cancer in raw vegan protocol within 2 months. However, was able to take father off of five medications including reversing his gout, no more statins, reduced cholesterol, blood pressure, frequent nightly urinations and got his short term memory back. All this within five weeks. Dad is almost eighty. Had put him on a balanced ketogenic eating plan: organ meats, fermented veggies, leafy greens, sardines, grassfed red meat, pasture-raised eggs, raw dairy, coconut oil and vegetables. High fat, modest protein - .7 to .8% of lean body mass and under 20 net carbohydrates. It worked for him. To each their own, both parents around same age.
Dr Williams was a big time competitive tennis player back in the day; anyone else notice the Wimbledon tie? Subtly making Klaus feel right at home. What a guy.
6:27 "[Keto] is not something that people should do unless your weight loss is more important than your life." Another brilliant quote from Dr. Kim Williams. Thanks!
@@taradikoff123 Based on observation and experience. Those cannot be "scientific" because the lack of "double blinded randomized" trials those feasibility is impossible.
Note that Impossible burger also has Heme Iron, it's considered a sectret ingredient for meat flavor. High in saturated fat, sodium and heme iron. It probably isn't much better than eat beef from a health perspective.
You are correct, however I don't think it's marketed as a healthy product. I eat it very rarely as a fast food treat. It absolutely should not be a regular thing in your diet.
@@GlennMarshallnz I make black bean burgers, which are the best burgers ever had, and my meat eating husband agreed! And btw these Impossible Burgers are not the sort of processed food I eat, but I can imagine some people will find them delicious.
Bottom line: Just leave the standard american diet, it doesn't matter if vegan, or paleo or keto or carnivore. EVERYTHING is better than the standard american diet.
Mohammed Lee Exactly! I don't understand why these nutritionists are so angry about coconut oil and a ketogenic diet, but they are silent about trans fats and sugar. My idea is to start with the worst actor in the Standard American Diet: sugar. Any whole foods diet that is high in nutrients would be better than what we have now.
If you agree that trans fat is bad, by default you shouldn't consume animal products since they have natural trans fat which is no different than artificial.
this is such a great video on so many levels. I've seen a few of your channels videos before but this one with Dr Williams was really worth it. Thank you for conducting this interview and for asking questions that mattered! Much appreciated and I hope to see more videos like this in the future.
@4:45: Wrong. People don’t only go keto to lose weight in a short amount of time. Many people have switched to keto for cancer, multiple sclerosis etc, and have actually gotten their symptoms under control. Not sure if it would work for everyone but it has certainly worked for some.
Low carb works great for me. Omni near vego wfbp saw me in trouble. Ditching seed oils & most carbs, especially refined carbs & legumes, & adding in chicken bone broth & red meats has seen my arthritis disappear, energy improve & blood levels all in healthy range. Even vegetarianism is less than optimal for many.
The meta studies he refers to do not include randomized controlled Trials but include to nearly 100% observational studies based on questionnaire. Among most scientists (including me), they are considered very, very weak evidence (if evidence at all) for various reasons: 1. None of these studies truly investigated a ketogenic diet (
What I think you fail to realize is that when it comes to eating healthy, the burden of proof is not as high as it is with introducing a new drug (with all of its risks and side effects) into the marketplace. Thousands of people have turned their health around by eating a whole food, plant-based diet. The side effects include (at the very least) better glucose control, excess weight loss, improved serum cholesterol, and dramatically reduced chronic disease rates (diabetes, metabolic syndrome, cardiovascular). It is a diet with only upsides for people, and for the planet. We don't need to wait for the definitive study to act on climate change, or on diabetes, or on cardiovascular illness. We can act today on all of these fronts by choosing to eat healthier with a diet rich in whole plant foods. This isn't rocket science. You will be dead before the study you are waiting for to come out, and whose loss will this be?
@@ThatGuy-dj3qr I noticed you didn't provide links to randomized clinical studies. We've all heard the vegan BS, and many of us have watched some of the endless stream of ex vegans giving personal testimonials to the living hell this assine diet put them through.
@@williamdavidhilton6659 It seems that you're demanding clinical studies FOR veganism and then content with taking anecdotal testimonials as proof AGAINST veganism. Do you want science or do you not want science? 🤨
@@DanielleHamlin Google "Bellevue Meat Study" and connect the dots to related studies. Question: will a vegan ever submit himself or herself to such a year-long controlled clinical study? Don't hold your breath.
@@ThatGuy-dj3qr Better glucose control is letting your body create the glucose it needs for bodily functions itself. Consuming 70-80% carbs a day (which turn into glucose) is absolutely not glucose control. Eating 6 meals a day because you're hungry constantly, coupled with huge spikes in insulin compared to protein and fat throughout the day keeps insulin high, which causes insulin sensitivity which leads to diabetes. I don't know what bullshit you're trying to feed people but learn your science.
@MAXAMVD i agree, its very toxic to care about other animals than humans. Why care about anybody besides people like yourself? why dont we start racism again?
@@Andreabay90 The good thing is as they are eating animal products they are killing themselves. The gene pool of less read people who endorse mass killings of innocent animals is eliminating itself. All the rest of us plant based people have to do is to look after each other. Ps notice how hostile and angry these meat eaters always are in the comments section just adding to their heigh blood pressure.
As an African American I'm so on board with what the doctor is sharing. In our community we truly need to look at what we're putting in our bodies. The doctors over medicate patients. All the different pills folks are taking for this or that condition. I'm learning so much about healthy eating. Being empowered with this knowledge of veganism is astounding!! Reclaiming living !!!
My brother had severe acid reflux in pain for years. He was on 3 types of meds. I suggested going healthy Vegan fruits veggies grains limit process food as much as possible. He jumped in with both feet. Within 3 weeks his doctor took him off his meds. Whole plant base eating is powerful!!!
This man is at the top of his field. He cites all relevant research, knows their strengths and weaknesses, understands clinical implications of meta research and the conflating effects of low-carb and ketogenic diets via initial, massive weight loss. I would want Dr. Williams to be my cardiologist without hesitation. He combines superb intellect with outstanding bedside manners -- all in the tradition of Dr. Marcus Wilby. We need more docs like Dr. Kim Williams. Yes, a good doctor is hard to find these days.
Eelke, it is funny but it horrible! Wow that is how bad the brainwashing is that even cardiologists die of heart disease due to eating animal "products".
Who is ignorant? If you mean those who know animal "products" cause heart disease, then sir you need to do some research and take a few minutes to watch the vid. If it is about those that want to keep eating heart disease and cancer on a plate, then yes they are ignorant for not seeing the evidence.
the freak, your comments are rooted in ignorance or deception. You have no cred. Either you are a paid shill or you are really that ignorant and obtuse. Watch the video and stop lying. Oh and the insults really add to your cred.
So happy to see this. The keto guys say they are science based as well so it gets confusing but here is comprehensive overview, not cherry picked data. Some of the WFPB proponents I had seen looked kind of hollow-eyed and overly intense or a little daffy, but here is a very well-spoken, clear-minded professional with an opinion I can trust. Thank you.
13:17 They should put on those "government nutrition guidelines" diagrams all their sponsors (those lobbyists who got the scientists' recommendations removed).
I agree. Interesting that I recently saw a dairy-free yogurt made by Yoplait. Trying to cash in on the vegan movement. I wont support a company that makes dairy products that cause cancer, but sponsors Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure in support of research for Cancer. That's such a slap in the face.
A Murdering , eating fat, cholesterol, high protein, and inflammatory diet..people need to throw that shit in the trash where it belongs, I don't receive comments so don't waste your time
@@PeaceTexas_111 you do receive comments, okey, I can't believe for 48 years I've eaten all this dairy, oil and meat and in my family of heart disease and ibs I was told I'm going to have the same fate and no diet can help,
The study says, literally: "Conclusion Low-carbohydrate diets were associated with a significantly higher risk of all-cause mortality and they were not significantly associated with a risk of CVD mortality and incidence. However, this analysis is based on limited observational studies and large-scale trials on the complex interactions between low-carbohydrate diets and long-term outcomes are needed." And yet, Dr. Williams calls it a "randomized trial" (when is not, is observational) study and makes conclusive (when is not, needs "more large-scale trials"). Go figure.
I was watching a patient of mine eating breakfast. He was on the keto diet. Breakfast consisted of: 2 strips of bacon, 2 sausage, 2 scrambled eggs, some sort of grilled meat, it looked like pork. And coffee. No one will EVER be able to convince me that this "food" is healthy. What I have found taking care of people, mainly the elderly for like 40 plus years. They eat lots of carbs like desserts, tons of meat and more meat than anything else. Meat of some sort is normally the first thing they think of when they think of food. It is the FIRST thing they put on their plate. They then go for the carbs....rice, pasta.. with tons of sauce. And then I cannot help but notice, very little or NO veges. Many of the elderly eat NO salad of any kind due to chewing and/or swallowing problems. Many have no teeth or very little teeth. And then... they all love their desserts and it is NOT fruit. Lots of processed desserts with tons of sugar.
I’m pretty grateful that my carnivore/keto/2%Veg diet will make it impossible for me to ever even come close to getting diabetes or becoming obese or getting any heart issues. #meat #keto #zerograin
dawoeee, watch the video. You clearly have not. But if you choose to continue to eat eggs and such, go ahead, but you will die early or have chronic illnesses.
bonchidude I have watched it and done my research on nutrition. Studies linking eggs to illnesses are the most unscientific studies I have ever seen in my life.
dawo, Well then watch it again because you clearly did not pay attention or are lying to dissuade people from the natural diet of humans. You falsely claim that the studies are unscientific is laughable. These are world renowned doctors so are you going to know more than they do. humans are herbivores. You sound more like a paid shill than someone who is not thinking right.
Lots of things to think about, thank you for spending all this time for us to be well informed. Plants will rule the world some day I just know it. take care.
The fact that anyone could possibly think that a keto diet high in saturated fat could possibly be healthy is laughable, if they weren't destroying their health and costing the lives of billions of animals.
Health care is a business and at the core of that business is treating sick people. Convincing their customers to live healthier lives by going vegan doesn't make economic sense, so it won't be done. It would be like barbers trying to convince their clients to get fewer haircuts.
Puzzling thing is that even in a purely socialist med system like the UK, it seems that doctors resort to drugs or surgery first. I don't hear about a health revolution anywhere from doctors pushing healthy diets, sleep, sunshine, exercise, and therapeutic fasting. Physicians need to turn into coaches first and drug peddlers second.
20:58 Impossible Burger does have heme iron in it (part of leghemoglobin), that's why "it looks like a bloody chunk of hamburger" [20:00] and tastes similar to meat: _"Full Ingredient List: Water, Textured Wheat Protein, Coconut Oil, Potato Protein, Natural Flavors, 2% or less of: Leghemoglobin (Soy), Yeast Extract, Salt, Konjac Gum, Xanthan Gum, Soy Protein Isolate, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Thiamin (Vitamin B1), Zinc, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B12_ _WHAT IS THE "LEGHEMOGLOBIN (SOY)" INGREDIENT?_ _Heme is an iron-containing molecule that occurs naturally in every single plant and animal. It’s an essential molecular building block of life. Heme gives your blood its ability to carry oxygen. It’s found in all living organisms, and it's been consumed every day-heck, every second-for hundreds of thousands of years._ _Heme is super abundant in animal muscle, and that's what makes a burger so flavorful. It's also why meat is a particularly good source of iron. The heme found in animal muscle is carried by a protein called myoglobin._ _Plants, particularly nitrogen-fixing plants and legumes, also have heme. The heme found in these plants is carried by leghemoglobin, which is closely related to myoglobin. Leghemoglobin in the soy plant is called soy leghemoglobin. The heme molecule in plant-based heme is atom-for-atom identical to the heme molecule found in meat. It’s what makes the Impossible Burger so rich and decadent._ _DO YOU PRODUCE HEME BY GENETIC MODIFICATION?_ _Yes. We genetically engineer yeast to make a key ingredient: heme. The process allows us to produce the Impossible Burger at scale with the lowest achievable environmental impact._ _We start with the gene for a protein called leghemoglobin, a heme protein that is naturally found in the root nodules of soy plants. Leghemoglobin is similar to myoglobin, the heme protein that is exceptionally abundant in animal muscles, binds oxygen and gives meat its unique flavor and aroma._ _We add the soy leghemoglobin gene to a yeast strain, and grow the yeast via fermentation. Then we isolate the leghemoglobin, or heme, from the yeast. We add heme to the Impossible Burger to give it the intense, meaty flavor, aroma and cooking properties of animal meat._ _By producing our heme in yeast, we avoid digging up soy plants to harvest the root nodules, which would promote erosion and release carbon stored in the soil. This enables us to produce heme sustainably at high volume and make plant-based meat for millions of people, offsetting the environmental impact of animal agriculture."_ impossiblefoods.com/faq
Why do these interviewers avoid asking the question "why saturated fat has be shown to cure epilepsy, dementia, Parkinson disease. Does this not imply the brain needs saturated fat? " Where are all the vegan doctors curing all the above mentioned chronic illnesses. I never hear anything about them curing those illnesses.
Exactly. Why are epileptic children put on ketogenic diets? I think what it is that they are animal lovers and what to stop it. That's the only thing that makes sense of their lies.
Correct me if I'm wrong but vegans don't consume coconut oil which has been shown to reduce the effects or even reverse dementia, Parkinson's disease, MS etc. etc. Dr. Terry Wahls is is a good example of someone who cured her MS using a Paleo high fat diet. She has now developed a Wahls Paleo plus diet to help other people with MS. Also Montel Williams who was co-host of the docu-series "The Real Skinny on Fat" cured himself of MS using the Ketogenic Diet. I have not heard of any anecdotal evidence that a vegan diet cures brain disease like the above mentioned. I am sure that if it existed Vegans would be shouting that from the rooftops.
I lost 55 lbs using a low carb approach 3 yrs ago. I said low carb not no carb. Green and leafy vegetables are now a big part of my diet. I limit my protein and carb intake getting most of my calories from fat (vegetable and animal). My weight is now pretty stable. I take no meds. My A1C has remained normal and my hypertension is in normal range. I'm an omnivore, just like my ancestors back to pre-history. I feel moderation and eating natural unprocessed foods as much as possible are the key to health. Exercise is equally helpful. We do not have any studies to say conclusively that vegan diets are better than any other. We live in such a polluted and stressful civilization, I can't even imagine the logistics of a statistically valid mortality study for diet. Dr. Williams kind of alludes to that fact. I go on the premise that all extremists should be looked at with skepticism.
Nearly vegan diet is the normal for all large populations. Anything below 70% carb is extreme and will lead to quick dead. If you want to die with good A1C numbers, then go ahead. And btw, the good numbers are temporary.
I hate those meat mimicking vegan processed foods. I know that they are trying to market plant based foods to meat eaters in a more familiar form, but far more wonderful things could be done if they'd just go their own way. Plant based dishes need not look ugly nor be unhealthy.
Just want to put in: "They" aren't "trying to please everybody." What they are doing, lobbyists for these industries, are lining their pockets. They absolutely do not care one iota about the consumer.
I showed my mom and stepfather some documentaries and the facts. They gave up milk. Still eats all kinds of meat, processed foods, eggs. They still put cheese and cream on and in everything. More so than before. I'm like... have you learned nothing?! Are you not sick enough?!
You showed them propaganda videos that's all. I bet there wasn't a single scientific citation in there. Meat, cheese and eggs are not unhealthy (unless you have an intolerance) - they are in fact full of essential nutrients that the body cannot manufacture. Processed foods can of course be problematic but it really depends what you are talking about.
You are so correct. I was vegan years ago. It didn’t really help my diabetes. So 2 years ago I went keto. Now I have serious heart disease. So at least being vegan would have prevented me getting heart disease. Now from today I’m starting vegan again in the hope that it will reverse the heart disease.
This month I've been plant based three years. My total cholesterol went from 189 to 138. I wish I knew about this years ago. I'm 77, still working on losing weight and lowering bp. And I don't feel much different, still feel good. Chef AJ inspires my current diet along with Dr. Greger and Dr. McDougall. I still need to cut out processed vegan foods.
I actually like the way this guys speaks about a vegan diet and how he doesn’t completely bash animal products. The only problem with any of his studies they are all Epidemiological studies that ask people what they ate 3 months ago. Yet fails to ask “Do you smoke? Do you live a sedentary lifestyle? Do you use oxidative polyunsaturated fats for cooking?”And countless other unhealthy habits. Without all of those variables you can’t tell people that eating a vegan diet would be healthy. It wouldn’t matter if they switched; inflammation will kill them before any diet would.
what he says is very interesting and is said in a very intelligent way. What scared me about long term vegans is their common skin issue ( lack of elasticity, emaciated look, strong skin folds even in very young people). I think animal products are essential, but in a very small amount. A bit like Okinawans do.. It's the uncontrollable ridiculous excess that is a problem, especially in an industrialized and unethical way. And all the animal food that gets thrown away because there is not enough people to consume it...its a scandal. But we can't go to the other extreme and completely eliminate foods that are actually essential to us in small amounts...no human populations in the whole planet have ever been fully vegan for a reason. And every food - plant or animal- has pros and cons. Plants also carry a lot of toxic compounds. Nothing is so black and white. Moderation and balance is key ( and I am in no way talking about the standard American diet...)
Excellent stuff. I love Dr. Kim Williams. He is an amazing speaker and he understands people so well too. So true - a vegan daughter changed my ex-husband when I couldn’t. I agree that the transition diet is less than ideal but it can be used as a step down to die-hard meat eaters
@@joepalomine Well, apart from the bread it looks pretty much keto to me. You don't have to eat meat to be in keto or low carb. It's just that bread that breaks it.
@@pepper419 The reason I posted the article is because he said eggs are cancerous and it is exactly the opposite. Watch the comment minute 9:02. That tells me he is a phony and does not know what he is talking about, just making money with people watching his videos.
If Keto caused 20-50% increase in death since the 1980s Atkins we would have obviously seen that and people wouldn't be doing. Keto is NOT the opposite of a vegetarian/vegan diet. The cornerstone of the Keto diet is low to medium glycemic vegetables like Kale, Spinach, avocado, coconut oil, olive oil, nuts, etc. Seriously, you try to characterize the diet as the Carnivore Diet just to make it so much easier to attack. it's disingenious. Why has my blood pressure gone down on keto? Why have my Triglycerides gone down? Why do I have so much energy and mental clarity on the Keto+IF diet? There have been increased attacks on Keto with no evidence to prove their extreme claims in recent months. Why are you so scared of other diets that you have to spend your time attacking it? Do you have to beat on a diet that is getting more attention just to get more attention? By the way, why are most of these Planet-based News videos of such low production quality? Was this interview done in a bathroom?
The low fat recommendation has caused more cases of heart disease, type II diabetes and obesity due to substituting sugar for fat. So much for government's unintended consequences.
It wasn't Steve Jobs's doctor who told him to eat a vegan diet. Jobs decided to do that on his own when he was in his early twenties, and he kept it up all his life. (As short as that life was)
I appreciate your channel so much. I keep meeting people who are badly informed about the Keto diet. It is mind boggling why they don't do a little research on their own to find out if it makes any sense.
As studied as this man sounds, he’s biased. Moreover, many of the results he cites are biased. There is nothing wrong with a ketogenic diet, provided the foundation of the diet consists of greens and cruciferous vegetables. The key to a healthy and successful result is the healthy fats and moderate protein intake. Further, cutting the sugar in the diet - ENTIRELY - is the MOST critical factor in eliminating heart disease. It’s not cholesterol. When the triglyceride level is compared to the HDL level, the ratio must be lower than 2.0 to ensure one can mitigate metabolic syndrome. Furthermore, show me a vegan who doesn’t supplement, and I’ll show you a person on the path to malnourishment and death on the installment plan. Final point: Men like Dr. Williams, and others, do not look healthy and vibrant. Rather, they appear frail, gaunt, and lacking in vitality.
@@hadavisjr You are right about having healthy vegetables as your base, and avoiding sugar completely. Veggies and legumes provide abundant protein. Soy milk is fortified with B12. Fruit and berries are loaded with vitamins. It's hard to fault a healthy WFPB diet providing you avoid animal products, refined oils, refined sugars, and the thousands of unhealthy highly processed foods the stores are so full of. Avoid almost all medications, multi-vitamins and supplements, and limit alcohol as much as possible. I consume no animal products whatsoever. I get more than enough essential oils and fat from healthy nuts, legumes, and veggies. My health is great and my blood tests have never been better. As long as the Keto diet promotes the consumption of any kind of animal products it will always fall short of its promises in the long term. Animal products come with a cost, and that cost is in the form of a deadly disease such as; heart attack, stroke, cancer, diabetes, liver or kidney disease, Alzheimer’s and more.
People want to get healthy eating the same foods that made them sick! Sick people will search for diet plans that allow them to eat the same foods that made them sick. The diet industry is more than happy to comply. Vegan 6+ years, 66 years old, 5'2" 110 lbs. I have two sisters who are getting fatter by the day and they want to eat what they like and take blood pressure meds and cholesterol meds. Another sister eats animals but also exercises and eats little processed food.
@Dickgirl Nationalist Cutting carbs is helpful in those with type 2 diabetes as it is carbs that trigger insulin resistance. And it has been shown to be superior to a high carb diet in weight loss. When a Type 2 diabetic reduces carbs to 30-50 grams per day they start the ketosis part and start burning fat for fuel instead of carbs. This helps to burn off belly fat and control blood sugar. For the diabetic at least. That is the main benefit of the keto diet. But it seems it is very hard to do it and also do Vegan and still get the needed nutrients.
Interesting, my cholesterol level has come down, blood pressure has returned to normal, I've lost weight (long term) and I feel 100% healthier and happier all thanks to my lifestyle change to a Ketogenic diet. I couple my keto diet with intermittent fasting.
First off, so no one misunderstands, I'm vegan....Sorry, but one study will not change my mind about dairy, when he says that dairy does not cause cancer deaths at 8:58 - The same reasoning he gave for the eggs not affecting heart attacks at 9:20 because 'dead people don't have heart attacks', could be applied to dairy, only reversed, because when a person is consuming dairy they are no doubt consuming other animal products, even if it's just eggs such as with vegetarians (and he did say eggs were worse then processed meat at 9:04), which not only cause cancer deaths as he pointed out, but also the mortality rate for meat eaters after a significant heart attack is high, so it could be that the cancer from the other animal meat consumption or their heart gives out before anything else (dairy) can kill them, but that doesn't mean that the dairy wouldn't eventually. I have a hard time listening to any doctor that advocates statins and 'poly drugs', and has been filmed saying that statins and poly drugs are not just okay, but are good, and has been in a 'friendly' debate with other plantbased doctors over statins as seen in another video
Eating more carbs than ever and massively reduced my protein intake. The plant based diet has helped me make more gains in the gym. I can't believe I use to think eating what essentially is rotting flesh and drinking bodily fluids from animals was ever the way forward. 🥦🥦
@Mark Anthony by now each of these diets have cycled from bad to good,back to bad,to good. It changes with each new book,each new study of 50 people living on an island somewhere,what kills you one day is the new fad tomorrow.Rinse/repeat
No vegans are eating beyond burger for health lol. for non vegans though the Beyond\imossible Burger will be net healthier than animal products so its at least better than a SAAD diet, glad he continued on to make that point.
Gnarly those people are eating meat tho. The beyond burger is net healthier than meat. Most of these people are not going to give up tasty meaty things, because they dont care about their health. So replacing these meat products with a product made from plants that is healthier and doesnt hurt animals, is a win for everybody involved.
+jordan, the guest recommends a *whole* foods diet, not "beyond burgers" or junk food veganism. Don't lump the animal rights vegans with the healthy herbivores. There is some overlap, but I would estimate that they are mostly two different groups.
With an ingredient list longer than my forearm and being shipped frozen from halfway across the country at 30% more expensive....no thanks....I'll stick to grass fed meat I can find in my local butcher
18:35........the real surprise for me as an Hispanic man.......simply mentioning the possibility of going vegan brought out a raving response from my meat-eating male family members! It will, of course, have no impact on my choices to do better. I was simply amazed at the response and this man helped clarify why that is.
God told Moses certain meats and fish were good for their diet, God knows better than this guys, but if this guys want to adopt the Adam and Eve diet that's fine too but Moses diet better for me, all vegetarians that I have known are always grouchy I'm like eat some meat woman and chill out those vegetables certainly not bringing you happiness lol.
@@awakeandalive4248Your fake sky Daddy didn't tell moses anything 🤣, jack has some magic beans for you aswell. Stop bringing false religion against real science
Ketogenic diet ≠ paleo/carnivore/Atkins diet only. Leave carbs (sugar is vegan, btw) and CAD is resolved - not only with vegan diet. I would do vegan diet instead of SAD or paleo/carnivore/Atkins. But ketogenic diet is way to go (my form of keto is near pesco-vegetarian, anyways). Egg is not increasing diabetes, if you are restricting carbs (LCHF/keto) and if you do not eat excessive amount of protein. Four eggs can be too much esp. in SAD. After a month of keto my blood values were great and blood pressure excellent. Both in keto and vegan you have to take care of potassium/sodium balance. Agreed: added sugars should be heavily taxed, if not banned.
Keto makes the body even more insulin INsensitive in the long run. It's a bandage that lasts a few years. Plant based is the cure, and sustainable....for health, environment, and morality.
The keto diet research he is citing was 40 percent or less carbs, hardly ketogenic. Such a tough debate.. I think why both keto and low fat vegan are beneficial is because both ways of eating increase insulin sensitivity, that's the magic.. Insulin resistance is killing us slowly..
@ 8:10="you have a lot of ketogenic dieters eating lots of processed foods and sugar"... Guess I missed that part of the ketogenic diet--all those sugars and carbs. And who needs a book/Doctor Oz to tell you once again about eating "processed foods".....you just can't put down that potted meat? SMDH
i'll say it for the 1000th time: you don't need to eat animal products on keto. ketosis is a state of the body, it isn't a food or a group of foods. in order to say ketosis is bad, you must prove that ketones themselves increase mortality, not that chicken, eggs, or beef is bad. that is totally irrelevant to the subject matter.
The set of people who are 'vegan' AND 'keto' is probably extremely small. When I look around on YT for the word 'keto', I see animals. That's what I see. So cut the guy some slack for speaking as-if.
@@rabbitcreative i know plenty of people who cycle a vegan keto diet. it's misinformation to label keto as animal product based. there are plenty of high fat vegan food options. fasting is another option that is vegan and results in ketosis, if it's prolonged enough. there are specific benefits to being in ketosis, so we shouldn't let a group of people have a monopoly on it
@@WackSmackAttack > we shouldn't let a group of people have a monopoly on it I think what you're asking for here is that 'peoples' P.S.O.E is higher in general. I'm asking for that, too, but in a much wider scope. In other words, it's not that 'people have a monopoly on it' -- the crux of this situation, and many others, is that so many people have similar associations surrounding certain words. This is largely by design, and that design is only effective when large numbers of people have a very low P.S.O.E. I doubt you understood anything I just said, so I'll stop here.
Man, Dr. Williams seems like such a cool guy to hang out with. I truly think that in another 30-50 years, we will have these studies he mentioned and the benefits of the WFPB diet will be undeniable. People pushing for animal product consumption will no longer be able to rely on ignorance and misinformation. Let's hope it's even sooner! Thanks for this interview Klaus and PBN!
Conscientious Omnivore How will they not be able to rely on ignorance and misinformation? Guessing you are vegan because that statement of yours is borderline brain death....
Yes LegacyEvoAce, I'm a happy & healthy vegan. People in the know already know that eating animal products is detrimental to our health. Good luck in your journey, I wish you the best.
Hello Mate, Let's hope they will be able to do it in a way that they control the diets well, because I have seem some pretty weird studies in which they stick to the "diet labels" by choosing the worst foods possible, and then the results would clearly skew towards their needs. Like a group of people on a vegan diet that only eat crappy food or someone on a high fat diet that was simultaneously eating tons of sugar.
Lol soy boys have been saying this for decades, aint gonna happen. Im eating a juicy flank steak right now and dont buy this vegan advocasy laced "science". My family since generations back ate the same way, lots of types of animal meats and fish lots of veggies not so much bread and living to a high age runs in my family. Dont have a single grand parent or great grand parent that passed under 90, my parents are healthy af, and im healthy af. Sorry to burst your soy boy bubble.
I think it is very interesting the drastic contrasts of the different groups Meats/Plants. With respect to the information and study's that are out there now and how bias they are. My belief is that this is all profit driven. IMO you should what you think it best for you. Either way you go, just stay away from processed foods, seed oils, and sugar. This is a sure bet that you will be more metabolically healthy.
Emma Dear you can do it, come on, girl, jump out of your comfort zone~ for *THEM* . Do you think their weightloss~ especially if theyve already lost it~ is worth more than a more than 30% risk for heart disease. And that's just the diet. Just think of all those that already had risk factors in place even before they went keto! Go for it! Ill be right beside you, promise!🌱🌱🌱🌈
Doctors and pharmaceutical industry need patients. Go eat sugar if you make them rich, yourself sick. With keto, my mom lost 45 lbs, down to 132 although she had thyroid disorder which causes significant weight gain, also her thyroid healed, her terrible eczemas gone, constantly low blood values increased, digestion problems end, she is super energetic and happy. I'm doing for 4 years and forgot when I went doctor last. I never get cold...
Come and see me when you get old. There's a reason why you rarely see long term older ketos. It looks good on the outside....while your insides gets fu**ed up in the long run. Lot of long term ketos are having kidney and heart issues. Long term older vegans that eats real whole foods......don't.
@@mujinhanfearlessmu9072 none of you said are true... people always say they never want to quit keto cause they never been healthier. l have seen many of them quit medicines cause keto healed their sickness, one is my mom. Also, it reverses chronic kindney disease, lowering insuline to optimum level prevents arteries to clog... do more research if your prejudice let you do
Im doing keto and my first time in ketosis was like someone turning on a light. My depression and general feeling of illness, itchiness etc…just literally disappeared, like gone. When i tried vegan i felt worse. You couldn’t convince me to ever go vegan again.
Keto mimics fasting and has almost all of the benefits from fasting. Also lipids insulin and leptin improve on keto. Keto reduces risk of stroke and heart disease. Keto isn’t for everybody but it helps a lot of people and I can guarantee more would do better on keto than vegan.
Anybody ever wonder what the gall bladder is for? It's for storing and concentrating bile for the purposes of digesting fat. Why would we have an organ for storing and concentrating bile if we weren't meant to eat fat heavy meals? The liver can only produce a small amount, so there's the gallbladder doing the work to allow us to eat that huge fat meal. Herbivores have no gallbladder, so they weren't supposed to eat much fat... we were. Just like other species of omnivores and carnivores. Plants are great, I love them. But to assume this dogma of a veggie-only diet is denying our own species adaptation for survival. Eat your greens people, and follow it up with a grass-fed steak and a few macadamias.
In 2022 I'm still seeing "keto cured this and that and I feel so much better on keto". Either, there really are different diets for different folks (I don't believe that), or, I'd hate to see what they were eating BEFORE 'going keto' such that 'going keto' helped them so much.
Funny how I finish watching and I get an ad for statins. People need to wake up about nutrition, so people don’t have to listen to the 30 side effects from this ad. Love your stuff PBN!
Leading Scientists Agree: Current Limits on Saturated Fats No Longer Justified Send Letter to Secretaries of USDA-HHS With Findings and Urge Policy Change Washington D.C. - Following a two-day, DC-based workshop entitled “Saturated Fats: A Food or Nutrient Approach?” a group of leading nutrition scientists, mainly from the U.S., released a consensus statement detailing their findings on the latest research regarding the intake of saturated-fats and heart disease. VEGAN KETO☦️☦️☦️ 70% OF CALORIES FROM OLIVE OIL IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF SATURATED FAT IS THE SAVIOR AND NOT THE PATSY TEST THE FRUIT💯
My Nan ate meat everything, tripe, trotters, gristle and the main meat, eggs, butter, dripping and lard... you name it she ate it, she smoked too since she was in her teens... she passed away at 95 years old and was in excellent health until her last few months where she just got old after she started drinking soda and became pre-diabetic. (Edit: she never ever ate junk food!) There is so much conflicting opinion, I try and eat low carb and as much plant based as possible... veg/vegan is where I'm trying, but I'm allergic to almonds, mushrooms, and tofu comes right back up so I'm dubious where to go next. I don't eat a lot of meat or fish either and I also don't eat breads, cereals, biscuits flour etc... suggestions?
You should avoid plants as you obviously don't tolerate them and that's quite common in many people. Plants are full of lectins and their oils go rancid and inflammatory quickly. Try dairy and stick to cruciferous and leafy greens. Try coconut oil and grass fed butter/ghee to cook with and get as much olive oil in as you can. really pour that on everything :)
What type of diabetes do you have? Pre diabetes and type 2 can get better but let’s say if it’s decades of damage then you still might have insulin resistance forever since the long term damage, but the amount of insulin you need will significantly less
@@Weesson I’ve had it for 21 years. Type two. It is also familial. In the past week, I have been able to halve my insulin from 60u to 30u, and lower blood glucose readings than when on a keto diet. Says it all really.
Just want to say though studies have shown that it doesn't matter whether the meat is factory farmed or grass fed, it is still a cause of inflammation.
nanuixt I started off as keto and had “success” on it considering I lost a ton of weight. But I never felt quite right. For a long time I thought high food quality fat moderate protein and low carbs from vegetables was the way to eat. But then I found out that these high animal fat diets’ experiments are conducted my the meat and dairy industry. I don’t trust it anymore. I went vegan and feel great so far. We will see.
i love that science proves veganism is right for us, but for all the people who don't think the fact an animal suffered so much and was killed for their sandwich is reason enough to stop eating flesh , you are lacking the capacity for empathy. watch Earthlings etc and see the suffering meat/flesh consumption causes ...shouldn't this be reason enough???
Lynn Roberts that's a gut issue. there are many things that can cause bad gut health. it's not that eating plants is bad, it's just that if your gut health is bad then you will have a bad experience eating plants. there are ways to improve and completely heal gut health. it's understandable that this kind of information would be way out of most people's way though.
Lynn Roberts since he hasn't answered you yet. vegans are mean simply because people are capable of being mean. being mean itself has absolutely nothing to do with veganism. since people are capable of being mean anyone can be mean whether they are vegan or not. i personally think it's a good bet that most vegans aren't mean.
TrustMeI'mADoctor i don't agree with everything that guy says, but "acts" is the key word in your post. if you've seen a decent amount of footage of him in public or his vids when he's not calling people out, his behavior isn't much different than most people.
Lynn Roberts hi, i know a lot of buddhist monks who are vegans w/ no health issues. The problem for vegans that destroyed their own digestion is they’re eating crap like this doctor talked about. The ones who eat lots of processed food & french fries. If you think about all the different strange treatments people do on animals for meat would simply turn you off from eating meat & dairy.
Yes! 3 months into my vegan diet, I was able to stop my high blood pressure and cholesterol medication. It has taken a year and a half to lose 45 pounds. I still wish to lose another 20 pounds but since becoming vegan, I will not go into any fad diets or feelings of starvation. I feel very good and know this is best for my health. It’s the only diet that has been easy to sustain. A key to this was research on vegan recipes. I’ve learned to cook so many types of food. It is not a boring diet nor do you ever feel hungry.
If you were on keto you would've lost your weight by now. Keto for life ! I used to be a vegan for almost a decade and did my research and keto is the way to go
Interesting because there are many people that I've seen, who go keto and even full carnivore that have a Triglyceride/HDL ratio of under 1. High LDL yes but the Triglyceride/HDL ratio is the real indicator of risk of heart disease.
There are whole populations of the world that are primarily if not 100% vegetarian. I don't hear about them living to 200. Also, not all humans are the same, not even at the same age. You change over time. Ask someone who grew up drinking cow milk every day for decades and suddenly becomes lactose intolerant. What works for you may not work for another and not at the same time or age either. There is no ONE SOLUTION that fits everyone. People are always looking for the ONE SOLUTION to any one thing, but that's a fool's errand.
And another thing! lol It doesn't matter what you eat if it makes you hate every second of your life while doing it. If eating Bambi is your thing and you're happy then go for it. Same thing goes for the kale crowd. If eating a specific diet makes you miserable with constant diarrhea and bloating, what's the point? You can live longer on the throne?
Great interview, very interesting. It would be good to get the scientists who advocate the Keto diet together with the plant based scientists for a proper scientific debate so both sides can challenge each other and we can learn the truth.
Some ppl go overboard on the meat protein, but low sugar, high fiber, high good fats, moderate protein will work fine for ketosis. Combined with IF, its a lifelong way to eat. Atherosclerosis begins in your 20's if you eat overly processed grains, sugar, added sugar, high fructose drinks, and highly processed seed and vegetable oils. Eat clean, minimally processed foods. If its got a barcode, its probably not good for you.
I hope to convert my family. First I need to get the weight-loss results. I've been obese so long, I understand the skepticism of taking health advice from the fat one.
Keto since march 2014. Ketovore since 2019. Carnivore for maybe 6 months. 55 years old. Strength training consistently for about 12 years. Stronger and healthier, both physically and mentally, than ever.
Hmmm I have never felt so good on Keto. Now I was on a plant based diet. Ate extremely well. I grew my own food no sugar drank juices of wheat grass and kale. Now I did this for 25 years. But I felt week. However I was in the area of little or no fat. I was tired most of the time. Now I’m on Keto. However. I have very good fats. Very little grass fed meat and organic veggies lots of. I think if people are eating bacon eggs and nothing but meat it’s not a proper Keto Plus I’m 120 pounds 5 foot 3. I’m not fat. Did not do this for weight loss
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People have been asking for the study about increased mortality. Here it is to the best of my knowledge:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3555979/
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I hope you don't delete this. Anyways the study is talking about low carbohydrate diets with HIGH protein intake, right? Ketogenic diets are supposed to be moderate intake of protein. Not supposed to be taking in a lot of protein and many people do a more Atkins kind of diet thinking it's ketogenic but yeah...
A relative risk increase of 30% is meaningless in that type of study. Mortality was 5.9%, that means that meat eaters had only 2% increased absolute risk. That's nothing, considering that since it is an observational study, there are bound to be counfounding factors which weren't accounted for.
The study is referring to low carb, HIGH protein. That is Atkins, not Keto🙄. The guy is a doctor....geez, you would think he would be intelligent enough to know the difference🤦♀️
If you cannot be honest and just report things based on exactly what they are, do not expect any reasonable omnivore to ever see your point of view. It just comes across as deceptive.
justylex It is deceptive, but most people wouldn't read the study.
My family laughs at me when I bring my own food on holidays. It's so bizarre that some think eating only plants is more shocking than raising, killing, and eating animal parts out of a styrofoam tray wrapped in plastic.
Good on you for having the courage to be yourself. Most people don't associate packaged meat with a former living animal.
So, you think no animals or insects are killed when creating plant based food? The best way is to get meat from local farmers that treat their animals with respect.
@@vegardbell our planet has 8 billion people currently and will peak at 10 billion within the next decade or so. We do not have enough land or ocean to achieve everyone eating meat and fish from ethical sustainable sources. Everyone needs to drastically cut their animal protein consumption ifmthe planet is to have a chance.
@@vegardbell You can't respect an animal if you kill them.
@@GlennMarshallnz if people just ate the whole animal (nose to tail), it would be more than possible.
I ate low carb and Keto for several years and ignored my high cholesterol as they said not to worry about it. I then ended up being diagnosed with peripheral Artery disease. I am now vegan and hope that people understand all health numbers and markers matter. I actually am already feeling better in just 2 months! I am following Dr. Esselstyn's book.
i think you are a liar
54321Truth Hah, hah, think what you want. I have a page I run with my paper work and story. Hide your head in the sand...it’s your life. Cholesterol 349 in 5 weeks of WFPB it dropped just over 100 points. Now under 200. Troll.....be gone long one!
WFPB Susie Kilgroe thanks for sharing this. I have been wondering if Keto will increase cholesterol, LDL, etc?
J W it think those with a family of any heart issues should steer clear.
What works for you is great. What about the fact that every cell in our body needs cholesterol? If the main proof people use of cholesterol causing heart disease is the Seven Country Study, yikes. Talk about cherry picking your data. Anyone who says all meat or all veggies is the best thing for you doesn't know you. We all have different situations going on and our individual genetics may favor some foods over others. Don't know of any Jainists or Hindus that have lived to 150. Everybody seems to die roughly the same amount of time.
"the measure of intelligence is the ability to change" - A. Einstein
Yea, and soy boy vegans never will, soooooo
@@thecakeisalie6601 they have already changed from the norm, no?
Wow, that's a great quote.
In neuroscience Intelligence = will power =~ ability to change.
@@thecakeisalie6601 Moronic reply. It is only through change that any of us became plant based in the first place. The further you drill down into the science, the easier it is to pass on the meat and dairy. Of course, you could just continue to cling to your "I'm not intelligent enough to learn and grow" defense. Food for thought.
Reversed mother’s Stage 4 colon cancer in raw vegan protocol within 2 months. However, was able to take father off of five medications including reversing his gout, no more statins, reduced cholesterol, blood pressure, frequent nightly urinations and got his short term memory back. All this within five weeks. Dad is almost eighty. Had put him on a balanced ketogenic eating plan: organ meats, fermented veggies, leafy greens, sardines, grassfed red meat, pasture-raised eggs, raw dairy, coconut oil and vegetables. High fat, modest protein - .7 to .8% of lean body mass and under 20 net carbohydrates. It worked for him. To each their own, both parents around same age.
Good about your Mum. High fat diet for your Dad doesn’t sound good to me.
Dr Williams was a big time competitive tennis player back in the day; anyone else notice the Wimbledon tie? Subtly making Klaus feel right at home. What a guy.
michaelscoots yeah I noticed 🎾
Thanks for the background fact. Nice catch with the tie. I'll always look twice at dudes with green/purple ties.
Wow I thought it was a Wimbledon tie...and then...see this. Nice.
6:27 "[Keto] is not something that people should do unless your weight loss is more important than your life."
Another brilliant quote from Dr. Kim Williams. Thanks!
sounds a bit dogmatic buddy
@@taradikoff123 Based on observation and experience. Those cannot be "scientific" because the lack of "double blinded randomized" trials those feasibility is impossible.
@@raytry69 ??? I had a hard time understanding what you just said with the way you worded that.
@@taradikoff123 Sorry for my bad english.
You wrote dogmatic. I wrote based on observation and experience.
@@raytry69 What has been your experience?
Note that Impossible burger also has Heme Iron, it's considered a sectret ingredient for meat flavor. High in saturated fat, sodium and heme iron. It probably isn't much better than eat beef from a health perspective.
Impossible burger is also a heavily processed product. Stick to beans and lentils for burger paddies
You are correct, however I don't think it's marketed as a healthy product. I eat it very rarely as a fast food treat. It absolutely should not be a regular thing in your diet.
@@GlennMarshallnz I make black bean burgers, which are the best burgers ever had, and my meat eating husband agreed!
And btw these Impossible Burgers are not the sort of processed food I eat, but I can imagine some people will find them delicious.
We need saturated fat for health though
true. but it makes the animals a lot happier.
Bottom line: Just leave the standard american diet, it doesn't matter if vegan, or paleo or keto or carnivore. EVERYTHING is better than the standard american diet.
Mohammed Lee Exactly! I don't understand why these nutritionists are so angry about coconut oil and a ketogenic diet, but they are silent about trans fats and sugar. My idea is to start with the worst actor in the Standard American Diet: sugar. Any whole foods diet that is high in nutrients would be better than what we have now.
If you agree that trans fat is bad, by default you shouldn't consume animal products since they have natural trans fat which is no different than artificial.
Nils Yuan - that is ridiculous. Trans fats are chemically altered seed and nut oils. Saturated fats are healthy.
Mohammed Lee You are absolutely correct , I have done very well on vegan and paleo . The secret is avoid processed food
Mo Lee, I would say if your only goal is to best the Standard American Diet, you are setting the bar way too low.
this is such a great video on so many levels. I've seen a few of your channels videos before but this one with Dr Williams was really worth it. Thank you for conducting this interview and for asking questions that mattered! Much appreciated and I hope to see more videos like this in the future.
@4:45: Wrong. People don’t only go keto to lose weight in a short amount of time. Many people have switched to keto for cancer, multiple sclerosis etc, and have actually gotten their symptoms under control. Not sure if it would work for everyone but it has certainly worked for some.
Low carb works great for me. Omni near vego wfbp saw me in trouble. Ditching seed oils & most carbs, especially refined carbs & legumes, & adding in chicken bone broth & red meats has seen my arthritis disappear, energy improve & blood levels all in healthy range. Even vegetarianism is less than optimal for many.
It worked for a few months then my body went downhill
The meta studies he refers to do not include randomized controlled Trials but include to nearly 100% observational studies based on questionnaire. Among most scientists (including me), they are considered very, very weak evidence (if evidence at all) for various reasons:
1. None of these studies truly investigated a ketogenic diet (
What I think you fail to realize is that when it comes to eating healthy, the burden of proof is not as high as it is with introducing a new drug (with all of its risks and side effects) into the marketplace. Thousands of people have turned their health around by eating a whole food, plant-based diet. The side effects include (at the very least) better glucose control, excess weight loss, improved serum cholesterol, and dramatically reduced chronic disease rates (diabetes, metabolic syndrome, cardiovascular). It is a diet with only upsides for people, and for the planet. We don't need to wait for the definitive study to act on climate change, or on diabetes, or on cardiovascular illness. We can act today on all of these fronts by choosing to eat healthier with a diet rich in whole plant foods. This isn't rocket science. You will be dead before the study you are waiting for to come out, and whose loss will this be?
@@ThatGuy-dj3qr I noticed you didn't provide links to randomized clinical studies.
We've all heard the vegan BS, and many of us have watched some of the endless stream of ex vegans giving personal testimonials to the living hell this assine diet put them through.
@@williamdavidhilton6659 It seems that you're demanding clinical studies FOR veganism and then content with taking anecdotal testimonials as proof AGAINST veganism. Do you want science or do you not want science? 🤨
@@DanielleHamlin Google "Bellevue Meat Study" and connect the dots to related studies. Question: will a vegan ever submit himself or herself to such a year-long controlled clinical study? Don't hold your breath.
@@ThatGuy-dj3qr Better glucose control is letting your body create the glucose it needs for bodily functions itself. Consuming 70-80% carbs a day (which turn into glucose) is absolutely not glucose control. Eating 6 meals a day because you're hungry constantly, coupled with huge spikes in insulin compared to protein and fat throughout the day keeps insulin high, which causes insulin sensitivity which leads to diabetes. I don't know what bullshit you're trying to feed people but learn your science.
I’m a vegan daughter. My entire family has changed their way of eating. They are still not vegan, but I’m working on it!
veganism is a political view... get them to embrace wholefoods plant based and non-violence and more love ...
@MAXAMVD i agree, its very toxic to care about other animals than humans. Why care about anybody besides people like yourself? why dont we start racism again?
@@Andreabay90 The good thing is as they are eating animal products they are killing themselves. The gene pool of less read people who endorse mass killings of innocent animals is eliminating itself. All the rest of us plant based people have to do is to look after each other.
Ps notice how hostile and angry these meat eaters always are in the comments section just adding to their heigh blood pressure.
@@danishviking6254 Good luck in NOT killing any insects and animals by eating plant based.
So, it is true that it is a kind of religion :)
As an African American I'm so on board with what the doctor is sharing. In our community we truly need to look at what we're putting in our bodies. The doctors over medicate patients. All the different pills folks are taking for this or that condition. I'm learning so much about healthy eating. Being empowered with this knowledge of veganism is astounding!! Reclaiming living !!!
One of the most interesting,intelligent and viewer friendly speeches I’ve listened to. Thank you Dr.Kim Williams
Indeed, this guy is superb and is actually familiar with most RCTs. Pretty rare these days.
This guy is legend.
For what? He sounds like 40 y/o and looks like the decaying Dr Greger. Wake up my guy.
@@Noner1234 for what he's saying. Does that help?
@@Noner1234 Also, he's 65, I just looked it up. So according to you he "sounds" 20 years younger than he is. Whatever the fuck that means
He is a legend.....he should of been in the film I Am Legend.
My brother had severe acid reflux in pain for years. He was on 3 types of meds. I suggested going healthy Vegan fruits veggies grains limit process food as much as possible. He jumped in with both feet. Within 3 weeks his doctor took him off his meds. Whole plant base eating is powerful!!!
Vinegar cures
This man is at the top of his field. He cites all relevant research, knows their strengths and weaknesses, understands clinical implications of meta research and the conflating effects of low-carb and ketogenic diets via initial, massive weight loss. I would want Dr. Williams to be my cardiologist without hesitation. He combines superb intellect with outstanding bedside manners -- all in the tradition of Dr. Marcus Wilby. We need more docs like Dr. Kim Williams. Yes, a good doctor is hard to find these days.
Obvious plant
@@dudeatx Your mom
Priceless interview! -The irony, biggest killer of cardiologists in the US... -Heart disease...
Eelke, it is funny but it horrible! Wow that is how bad the brainwashing is that even cardiologists die of heart disease due to eating animal "products".
The ignorance in these posts is astounding.
Lynn, you have an acumen for not seeing the obvious. Do some research an dget back to me when you do.
Who is ignorant? If you mean those who know animal "products" cause heart disease, then sir you need to do some research and take a few minutes to watch the vid. If it is about those that want to keep eating heart disease and cancer on a plate, then yes they are ignorant for not seeing the evidence.
the freak, your comments are rooted in ignorance or deception. You have no cred. Either you are a paid shill or you are really that ignorant and obtuse. Watch the video and stop lying. Oh and the insults really add to your cred.
So happy to see this. The keto guys say they are science based as well so it gets confusing but here is comprehensive overview, not cherry picked data. Some of the WFPB proponents I had seen looked kind of hollow-eyed and overly intense or a little daffy, but here is a very well-spoken, clear-minded professional with an opinion I can trust. Thank you.
the studies he shows has nothing to do with keto.
13:17 They should put on those "government nutrition guidelines" diagrams all their sponsors (those lobbyists who got the scientists' recommendations removed).
I agree. Interesting that I recently saw a dairy-free yogurt made by Yoplait. Trying to cash in on the vegan movement. I wont support a company that makes dairy products that cause cancer, but sponsors Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure in support of research for Cancer. That's such a slap in the face.
i think too many ppl assume keto means eating a ton of meat.
mark kay no worse....it pushes fat. Like roll some coconuts flakes in coconut oil and eat that for snack 🤮. What? Yeah, that sounds heart healthy🙄
A Murdering , eating fat, cholesterol, high protein, and inflammatory diet..people need to throw that shit in the trash where it belongs, I don't receive comments so don't waste your time
👍Excuse of meateateaters. It's lol
It's 70% fat, that's not healthy.
@@PeaceTexas_111 you do receive comments, okey, I can't believe for 48 years I've eaten all this dairy, oil and meat and in my family of heart disease and ibs I was told I'm going to have the same fate and no diet can help,
The study says, literally:
"Conclusion
Low-carbohydrate diets were associated with a significantly higher risk of all-cause mortality and they were not significantly associated with a risk of CVD mortality and incidence. However, this analysis is based on limited observational studies and large-scale trials on the complex interactions between low-carbohydrate diets and long-term outcomes are needed."
And yet, Dr. Williams calls it a "randomized trial" (when is not, is observational) study and makes conclusive (when is not, needs "more large-scale trials"). Go figure.
I was watching a patient of mine eating breakfast. He was on the keto diet. Breakfast consisted of: 2 strips of bacon, 2 sausage, 2 scrambled eggs, some sort of grilled meat, it looked like pork. And coffee. No one will EVER be able to convince me that this "food" is healthy. What I have found taking care of people, mainly the elderly for like 40 plus years. They eat lots of carbs like desserts, tons of meat and more meat than anything else. Meat of some sort is normally the first thing they think of when they think of food. It is the FIRST thing they put on their plate. They then go for the carbs....rice, pasta.. with tons of sauce. And then I cannot help but notice, very little or NO veges. Many of the elderly eat NO salad of any kind due to chewing and/or swallowing problems. Many have no teeth or very little teeth. And then... they all love their desserts and it is NOT fruit. Lots of processed desserts with tons of sugar.
Chop your food. Up. No meat
I’m pretty grateful that my carnivore/keto/2%Veg diet will make it impossible for me to ever even come close to getting diabetes or becoming obese or getting any heart issues. #meat #keto #zerograin
just after 3:55 - why ARENT there these studies being done? Surely this should be a priority and a question we all want the answer to?
Eggs increases risk of cancer with over 40 percent? I want to see the studies this is based on.
Cammi Eklund organic pasture raised eggs are one of the healthiest foods you can eat period.
dawoeee, watch the video. You clearly have not. But if you choose to continue to eat eggs and such, go ahead, but you will die early or have chronic illnesses.
bonchidude
😂🤣😂
bonchidude I have watched it and done my research on nutrition. Studies linking eggs to illnesses are the most unscientific studies I have ever seen in my life.
dawo, Well then watch it again because you clearly did not pay attention or are lying to dissuade people from the natural diet of humans. You falsely claim that the studies are unscientific is laughable. These are world renowned doctors so are you going to know more than they do. humans are herbivores. You sound more like a paid shill than someone who is not thinking right.
Another amazing interview
Amazing, both of these men
I could listen to this doctor for weeks, he sounds amazing and he's so chill.
Thank you for informing people and saving lives. This is heroism in its best form.
Lots of things to think about, thank you for spending all this time for us to be well informed. Plants will rule the world some day I just know it. take care.
Day of the Triffids...
The fact that anyone could possibly think that a keto diet high in saturated fat could possibly be healthy is laughable, if they weren't destroying their health and costing the lives of billions of animals.
Health care is a business and at the core of that business is treating sick people. Convincing their customers to live healthier lives by going vegan doesn't make economic sense, so it won't be done. It would be like barbers trying to convince their clients to get fewer haircuts.
Luckily, there are Docs out there who are taking a stand for what is right which is GOING PLANT BASED VEGAN.❤️😀
ozzy so that means patients need to GO VEGAN.
Ozzy Girl only in america its a business really
I think doctors are genuine. They are too busy fixing the symptoms and are not taught how to fix the underlying cause.
Puzzling thing is that even in a purely socialist med system like the UK, it seems that doctors resort to drugs or surgery first. I don't hear about a health revolution anywhere from doctors pushing healthy diets, sleep, sunshine, exercise, and therapeutic fasting. Physicians need to turn into coaches first and drug peddlers second.
20:58 Impossible Burger does have heme iron in it (part of leghemoglobin), that's why "it looks like a bloody chunk of hamburger" [20:00] and tastes similar to meat:
_"Full Ingredient List: Water, Textured Wheat Protein, Coconut Oil, Potato Protein, Natural Flavors, 2% or less of: Leghemoglobin (Soy), Yeast Extract, Salt, Konjac Gum, Xanthan Gum, Soy Protein Isolate, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Thiamin (Vitamin B1), Zinc, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B12_
_WHAT IS THE "LEGHEMOGLOBIN (SOY)" INGREDIENT?_
_Heme is an iron-containing molecule that occurs naturally in every single plant and animal. It’s an essential molecular building block of life. Heme gives your blood its ability to carry oxygen. It’s found in all living organisms, and it's been consumed every day-heck, every second-for hundreds of thousands of years._
_Heme is super abundant in animal muscle, and that's what makes a burger so flavorful. It's also why meat is a particularly good source of iron. The heme found in animal muscle is carried by a protein called myoglobin._
_Plants, particularly nitrogen-fixing plants and legumes, also have heme. The heme found in these plants is carried by leghemoglobin, which is closely related to myoglobin. Leghemoglobin in the soy plant is called soy leghemoglobin. The heme molecule in plant-based heme is atom-for-atom identical to the heme molecule found in meat. It’s what makes the Impossible Burger so rich and decadent._
_DO YOU PRODUCE HEME BY GENETIC MODIFICATION?_
_Yes. We genetically engineer yeast to make a key ingredient: heme. The process allows us to produce the Impossible Burger at scale with the lowest achievable environmental impact._
_We start with the gene for a protein called leghemoglobin, a heme protein that is naturally found in the root nodules of soy plants. Leghemoglobin is similar to myoglobin, the heme protein that is exceptionally abundant in animal muscles, binds oxygen and gives meat its unique flavor and aroma._
_We add the soy leghemoglobin gene to a yeast strain, and grow the yeast via fermentation. Then we isolate the leghemoglobin, or heme, from the yeast. We add heme to the Impossible Burger to give it the intense, meaty flavor, aroma and cooking properties of animal meat._
_By producing our heme in yeast, we avoid digging up soy plants to harvest the root nodules, which would promote erosion and release carbon stored in the soil. This enables us to produce heme sustainably at high volume and make plant-based meat for millions of people, offsetting the environmental impact of animal agriculture."_
impossiblefoods.com/faq
Why do these interviewers avoid asking the question "why saturated fat has be shown to cure epilepsy, dementia, Parkinson disease. Does this not imply the brain needs saturated fat? " Where are all the vegan doctors curing all the above mentioned chronic illnesses. I never hear anything about them curing those illnesses.
Exactly. Why are epileptic children put on ketogenic diets?
I think what it is that they are animal lovers and what to stop it. That's the only thing that makes sense of their lies.
There are fruits and nuts with saturated fat by the way...olives, avocados, coconuts, Brazil nuts, walnuts, almonds, peanuts....
Correct me if I'm wrong but vegans don't consume coconut oil which has been shown to reduce the effects or even reverse dementia, Parkinson's disease, MS etc. etc. Dr. Terry Wahls is is a good example of someone who cured her MS using a Paleo high fat diet. She has now developed a Wahls Paleo plus diet to help other people with MS. Also Montel Williams who was co-host of the docu-series "The Real Skinny on Fat" cured himself of MS using the Ketogenic Diet. I have not heard of any anecdotal evidence that a vegan diet cures brain disease like the above mentioned. I am sure that if it existed Vegans would be shouting that from the rooftops.
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Coconut oil hasn't been shown to do any of that. In fact diets high in fact have been shown to impair cognitive function in healthy people.
People are different. If a plant-based diet works for you, go for it.
Couldn't agree more
Plant based diets work for everyone. The same cannot be said for omnivorous diets.
I lost 55 lbs using a low carb approach 3 yrs ago. I said low carb not no carb. Green and leafy vegetables are now a big part of my diet. I limit my protein and carb intake getting most of my calories from fat (vegetable and animal). My weight is now pretty stable. I take no meds. My A1C has remained normal and my hypertension is in normal range.
I'm an omnivore, just like my ancestors back to pre-history. I feel moderation and eating natural unprocessed foods as much as possible are the key to health. Exercise is equally helpful. We do not have any studies to say conclusively that vegan diets are better than any other. We live in such a polluted and stressful civilization, I can't even imagine the logistics of a statistically valid mortality study for diet. Dr. Williams kind of alludes to that fact.
I go on the premise that all extremists should be looked at with skepticism.
And that is keto
Nearly vegan diet is the normal for all large populations. Anything below 70% carb is extreme and will lead to quick dead. If you want to die with good A1C numbers, then go ahead. And btw, the good numbers are temporary.
I hate those meat mimicking vegan processed foods. I know that they are trying to market plant based foods to meat eaters in a more familiar form, but far more wonderful things could be done if they'd just go their own way. Plant based dishes need not look ugly nor be unhealthy.
Man I didn't want this man to stop talking! So interesting
Nina S M R White He has been on the Rich Roll podcast in the past if you want to hear more of him.
Bloxeh thanjs!
Thanks man!
Welcome!
This man look very unhealthy😲
Just want to put in: "They" aren't "trying to please everybody." What they are doing, lobbyists for these industries, are lining their pockets. They absolutely do not care one iota about the consumer.
I showed my mom and stepfather some documentaries and the facts. They gave up milk. Still eats all kinds of meat, processed foods, eggs. They still put cheese and cream on and in everything. More so than before. I'm like... have you learned nothing?! Are you not sick enough?!
You showed them propaganda videos that's all. I bet there wasn't a single scientific citation in there. Meat, cheese and eggs are not unhealthy (unless you have an intolerance) - they are in fact full of essential nutrients that the body cannot manufacture. Processed foods can of course be problematic but it really depends what you are talking about.
@@dudeatxwhat total nonsense. They are harmful for human health. Raping, breeding babies for people to then eat is utterly abhorrent and evil.
My biggest problem I have is with the Keto fanatics is they are so big of the weight loss side that they are not looking at the bigger picture.
You are so correct. I was vegan years ago. It didn’t really help my diabetes. So 2 years ago I went keto. Now I have serious heart disease. So at least being vegan would have prevented me getting heart disease. Now from today I’m starting vegan again in the hope that it will reverse the heart disease.
im that vegan daughter that converted most of my family 😏👍
Great, thanks. :)
I'm a vegan son and I haven't been able to convince anyone in my family.
user m god bless you girl.
My sister got our family too haha! I cracked up when he said that!
mrbonzzai I'm also a vegan son that haven't been able to convince anyone in my family =/ but im getting there
Congrats for 200 k 🤘🏼🎉🎉
Vegetto Blue still 1.5 million behind eric berg. Shame
This month I've been plant based three years. My total cholesterol went from 189 to 138. I wish I knew about this years ago. I'm 77, still working on losing weight and lowering bp. And I don't feel much different, still feel good. Chef AJ inspires my current diet along with Dr. Greger and Dr. McDougall. I still need to cut out processed vegan foods.
LindaW I dropped my total cholesterol from 240 to 129 with LCHF keto and I lost 23 lbs, too. In a month.
So what...there's no evidence that cholesterol is harmful, or lowering it improves health...and a shift of 189 to 138 is within a normal variation.
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Add fat to your diet and both weight and BP will fall nicely...if plant based use coconut, olive and avocado oil. It worked quickly for me !
@@dudeatx lol. You're joking right?
I actually like the way this guys speaks about a vegan diet and how he doesn’t completely bash animal products. The only problem with any of his studies they are all Epidemiological studies that ask people what they ate 3 months ago. Yet fails to ask “Do you smoke? Do you live a sedentary lifestyle? Do you use oxidative polyunsaturated fats for cooking?”And countless other unhealthy habits. Without all of those variables you can’t tell people that eating a vegan diet would be healthy. It wouldn’t matter if they switched; inflammation will kill them before any diet would.
Just chiming in - the standard western diet needs to be in a test group along with low carb, vegetarian , and vegan.
Add carnivore too!
what he says is very interesting and is said in a very intelligent way. What scared me about long term vegans is their common skin issue ( lack of elasticity, emaciated look, strong skin folds even in very young people). I think animal products are essential, but in a very small amount. A bit like Okinawans do.. It's the uncontrollable ridiculous excess that is a problem, especially in an industrialized and unethical way. And all the animal food that gets thrown away because there is not enough people to consume it...its a scandal. But we can't go to the other extreme and completely eliminate foods that are actually essential to us in small amounts...no human populations in the whole planet have ever been fully vegan for a reason. And every food - plant or animal- has pros and cons. Plants also carry a lot of toxic compounds. Nothing is so black and white. Moderation and balance is key ( and I am in no way talking about the standard American diet...)
Excellent stuff. I love Dr. Kim Williams. He is an amazing speaker and he understands people so well too. So true - a vegan daughter changed my ex-husband when I couldn’t.
I agree that the transition diet is less than ideal but it can be used as a step down to die-hard meat eaters
Now, why would anyone want to end a ketogenic diet when it's so good for you?
@@joepalomine Well, apart from the bread it looks pretty much keto to me. You don't have to eat meat to be in keto or low carb. It's just that bread that breaks it.
@@pepper419 The reason I posted the article is because he said eggs are cancerous and it is exactly the opposite. Watch the comment minute 9:02. That tells me he is a phony and does not know what he is talking about, just making money with people watching his videos.
@@joepalomine I see your point.
Have you seen Dr. Aseem Malhotra - "Too much medicine & The Great Statin Con." It's very enlightening.
@@pepper419 I look it up and comment, thanks
If Keto caused 20-50% increase in death since the 1980s Atkins we would have obviously seen that and people wouldn't be doing.
Keto is NOT the opposite of a vegetarian/vegan diet. The cornerstone of the Keto diet is low to medium glycemic vegetables like Kale, Spinach, avocado, coconut oil, olive oil, nuts, etc. Seriously, you try to characterize the diet as the Carnivore Diet just to make it so much easier to attack. it's disingenious.
Why has my blood pressure gone down on keto? Why have my Triglycerides gone down? Why do I have so much energy and mental clarity on the Keto+IF diet?
There have been increased attacks on Keto with no evidence to prove their extreme claims in recent months. Why are you so scared of other diets that you have to spend your time attacking it? Do you have to beat on a diet that is getting more attention just to get more attention?
By the way, why are most of these Planet-based News videos of such low production quality? Was this interview done in a bathroom?
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The low fat recommendation has caused more cases of heart disease, type II diabetes and obesity due to substituting sugar for fat. So much for government's unintended consequences.
Steve Jobs` doctor told him to eat a low fat/high carb diet and look how that worked out.
It wasn't Steve Jobs's doctor who told him to eat a vegan diet. Jobs decided to do that on his own when he was in his early twenties, and he kept it up all his life. (As short as that life was)
I did Atkins in 1998 it was really trendy then. I've never heard of anyone that stuck at it more than a few years. How long you been Keto?
I appreciate your channel so much. I keep meeting people who are badly informed about the Keto diet. It is mind boggling why they don't do a little research on their own to find out if it makes any sense.
As studied as this man sounds, he’s biased. Moreover, many of the results he cites are biased. There is nothing wrong with a ketogenic diet, provided the foundation of the diet consists of greens and cruciferous vegetables. The key to a healthy and successful result is the healthy fats and moderate protein intake. Further, cutting the sugar in the diet - ENTIRELY - is the MOST critical factor in eliminating heart disease. It’s not cholesterol. When the triglyceride level is compared to the HDL level, the ratio must be lower than 2.0 to ensure one can mitigate metabolic syndrome. Furthermore, show me a vegan who doesn’t supplement, and I’ll show you a person on the path to malnourishment and death on the installment plan.
Final point: Men like Dr. Williams, and others, do not look healthy and vibrant. Rather, they appear frail, gaunt, and lacking in vitality.
@@hadavisjr You are right about having healthy vegetables as your base, and avoiding sugar completely. Veggies and legumes provide abundant protein. Soy milk is fortified with B12. Fruit and berries are loaded with vitamins. It's hard to fault a healthy WFPB diet providing you avoid animal products, refined oils, refined sugars, and the thousands of unhealthy highly processed foods the stores are so full of. Avoid almost all medications, multi-vitamins and supplements, and limit alcohol as much as possible. I consume no animal products whatsoever. I get more than enough essential oils and fat from healthy nuts, legumes, and veggies. My health is great and my blood tests have never been better. As long as the Keto diet promotes the consumption of any kind of animal products it will always fall short of its promises in the long term. Animal products come with a cost, and that cost is in the form of a deadly disease such as; heart attack, stroke, cancer, diabetes, liver or kidney disease, Alzheimer’s and more.
People want to get healthy eating the same foods that made them sick! Sick people will search for diet plans that allow them to eat the same foods that made them sick. The diet industry is more than happy to comply. Vegan 6+ years, 66 years old, 5'2" 110 lbs. I have two sisters who are getting fatter by the day and they want to eat what they like and take blood pressure meds and cholesterol meds. Another sister eats animals but also exercises and eats little processed food.
What about a plant based ketogenic diet?
@Dickgirl Nationalist Cutting carbs is helpful in those with type 2 diabetes as it is carbs that trigger insulin resistance. And it has been shown to be superior to a high carb diet in weight loss. When a Type 2 diabetic reduces carbs to 30-50 grams per day they start the ketosis part and start burning fat for fuel instead of carbs. This helps to burn off belly fat and control blood sugar. For the diabetic at least. That is the main benefit of the keto diet. But it seems it is very hard to do it and also do Vegan and still get the needed nutrients.
Interesting, my cholesterol level has come down, blood pressure has returned to normal, I've lost weight (long term) and I feel 100% healthier and happier all thanks to my lifestyle change to a Ketogenic diet.
I couple my keto diet with intermittent fasting.
same here
First off, so no one misunderstands, I'm vegan....Sorry, but one study will not change my mind about dairy, when he says that dairy does not cause cancer deaths at 8:58 - The same reasoning he gave for the eggs not affecting heart attacks at 9:20 because 'dead people don't have heart attacks', could be applied to dairy, only reversed, because when a person is consuming dairy they are no doubt consuming other animal products, even if it's just eggs such as with vegetarians (and he did say eggs were worse then processed meat at 9:04), which not only cause cancer deaths as he pointed out, but also the mortality rate for meat eaters after a significant heart attack is high, so it could be that the cancer from the other animal meat consumption or their heart gives out before anything else (dairy) can kill them, but that doesn't mean that the dairy wouldn't eventually. I have a hard time listening to any doctor that advocates statins and 'poly drugs', and has been filmed saying that statins and poly drugs are not just okay, but are good, and has been in a 'friendly' debate with other plantbased doctors over statins as seen in another video
One smart homie. The man is genius. One word: legend. Please more interviews from this brilliant mind
Eating more carbs than ever and massively reduced my protein intake. The plant based diet has helped me make more gains in the gym. I can't believe I use to think eating what essentially is rotting flesh and drinking bodily fluids from animals was ever the way forward. 🥦🥦
@Mark Anthony by now each of these diets have cycled from bad to good,back to bad,to good. It changes with each new book,each new study of 50 people living on an island somewhere,what kills you one day is the new fad tomorrow.Rinse/repeat
No vegans are eating beyond burger for health lol.
for non vegans though the Beyond\imossible Burger will be net healthier than animal products so its at least better than a SAAD diet, glad he continued on to make that point.
Jordan O'Connor but it also has saturated fat and oils... :/ and it's terrible oils :C
Gnarly those people are eating meat tho.
The beyond burger is net healthier than meat.
Most of these people are not going to give up tasty meaty things, because they dont care about their health. So replacing these meat products with a product made from plants that is healthier and doesnt hurt animals, is a win for everybody involved.
+jordan, the guest recommends a *whole* foods diet, not "beyond burgers" or junk food veganism. Don't lump the animal rights vegans with the healthy herbivores. There is some overlap, but I would estimate that they are mostly two different groups.
Uggghhh no it's not healthier....
With an ingredient list longer than my forearm and being shipped frozen from halfway across the country at 30% more expensive....no thanks....I'll stick to grass fed meat I can find in my local butcher
18:35........the real surprise for me as an Hispanic man.......simply mentioning the possibility of going vegan brought out a raving response from my meat-eating male family members! It will, of course, have no impact on my choices to do better. I was simply amazed at the response and this man helped clarify why that is.
God told Moses certain meats and fish were good for their diet, God knows better than this guys, but if this guys want to adopt the Adam and Eve diet that's fine too but Moses diet better for me, all vegetarians that I have known are always grouchy I'm like eat some meat woman and chill out those vegetables certainly not bringing you happiness lol.
@@awakeandalive4248Your fake sky Daddy didn't tell moses anything 🤣, jack has some magic beans for you aswell. Stop bringing false religion against real science
Ketogenic diet ≠ paleo/carnivore/Atkins diet only. Leave carbs (sugar is vegan, btw) and CAD is resolved - not only with vegan diet. I would do vegan diet instead of SAD or paleo/carnivore/Atkins. But ketogenic diet is way to go (my form of keto is near pesco-vegetarian, anyways).
Egg is not increasing diabetes, if you are restricting carbs (LCHF/keto) and if you do not eat excessive amount of protein. Four eggs can be too much esp. in SAD.
After a month of keto my blood values were great and blood pressure excellent. Both in keto and vegan you have to take care of potassium/sodium balance.
Agreed: added sugars should be heavily taxed, if not banned.
Did you even watch the interview?
did you?
Yes, I did.
Keto makes the body even more insulin INsensitive in the long run.
It's a bandage that lasts a few years. Plant based is the cure, and sustainable....for health, environment, and morality.
The keto diet research he is citing was 40 percent or less carbs, hardly ketogenic. Such a tough debate.. I think why both keto and low fat vegan are beneficial is because both ways of eating increase insulin sensitivity, that's the magic.. Insulin resistance is killing us slowly..
@ 8:10="you have a lot of ketogenic dieters eating lots of processed foods and sugar"... Guess I missed that part of the ketogenic diet--all those sugars and carbs. And who needs a book/Doctor Oz to tell you once again about eating "processed foods".....you just can't put down that potted meat? SMDH
Fantastic interview! Keep up the good work.
My blood pressure when from 140 / 95 to 108 / 70
...And what changed it?
i'll say it for the 1000th time: you don't need to eat animal products on keto. ketosis is a state of the body, it isn't a food or a group of foods. in order to say ketosis is bad, you must prove that ketones themselves increase mortality, not that chicken, eggs, or beef is bad. that is totally irrelevant to the subject matter.
The set of people who are 'vegan' AND 'keto' is probably extremely small. When I look around on YT for the word 'keto', I see animals. That's what I see. So cut the guy some slack for speaking as-if.
@@rabbitcreative i know plenty of people who cycle a vegan keto diet. it's misinformation to label keto as animal product based. there are plenty of high fat vegan food options. fasting is another option that is vegan and results in ketosis, if it's prolonged enough. there are specific benefits to being in ketosis, so we shouldn't let a group of people have a monopoly on it
@@WackSmackAttack > we shouldn't let a group of people have a monopoly on it
I think what you're asking for here is that 'peoples' P.S.O.E is higher in general. I'm asking for that, too, but in a much wider scope.
In other words, it's not that 'people have a monopoly on it' -- the crux of this situation, and many others, is that so many people have similar associations surrounding certain words. This is largely by design, and that design is only effective when large numbers of people have a very low P.S.O.E.
I doubt you understood anything I just said, so I'll stop here.
@@rabbitcreative yes, feel free to stop replying because you refuse to address anything I said
Man, Dr. Williams seems like such a cool guy to hang out with. I truly think that in another 30-50 years, we will have these studies he mentioned and the benefits of the WFPB diet will be undeniable. People pushing for animal product consumption will no longer be able to rely on ignorance and misinformation. Let's hope it's even sooner! Thanks for this interview Klaus and PBN!
Conscientious Omnivore How will they not be able to rely on ignorance and misinformation? Guessing you are vegan because that statement of yours is borderline brain death....
Yes LegacyEvoAce, I'm a happy & healthy vegan. People in the know already know that eating animal products is detrimental to our health. Good luck in your journey, I wish you the best.
Conscientious Omnivore
My Cats and Dogs beg to differ.
Hello Mate, Let's hope they will be able to do it in a way that they control the diets well, because I have seem some pretty weird studies in which they stick to the "diet labels" by choosing the worst foods possible, and then the results would clearly skew towards their needs. Like a group of people on a vegan diet that only eat crappy food or someone on a high fat diet that was simultaneously eating tons of sugar.
Lol soy boys have been saying this for decades, aint gonna happen. Im eating a juicy flank steak right now and dont buy this vegan advocasy laced "science". My family since generations back ate the same way, lots of types of animal meats and fish lots of veggies not so much bread and living to a high age runs in my family. Dont have a single grand parent or great grand parent that passed under 90, my parents are healthy af, and im healthy af. Sorry to burst your soy boy bubble.
I think it is very interesting the drastic contrasts of the different groups Meats/Plants. With respect to the information and study's that are out there now and how bias they are. My belief is that this is all profit driven. IMO you should what you think it best for you. Either way you go, just stay away from processed foods, seed oils, and sugar. This is a sure bet that you will be more metabolically healthy.
Haha.... I want to share this on my Facebook but I'm afraid I wont have any friends are family left 😭 (all doing keto)
Write “Is weight loss more important than your life?” and share it!
Emma Dear be brave! Remind yourself its for their benefit
@@Frenchblue8 I'm super noncontroversial 😭😭😭😭
Emma Dear you can do it, come on, girl, jump out of your comfort zone~ for *THEM* . Do you think their weightloss~ especially if theyve already lost it~ is worth more than a more than 30% risk for heart disease. And that's just the diet. Just think of all those that already had risk factors in place even before they went keto! Go for it! Ill be right beside you, promise!🌱🌱🌱🌈
Yup so true! Everyone is doing it.
Thank you very much Dr. William for caring about people's health and speaking the truth. You are the best, God bless you.
Doctors and pharmaceutical industry need patients. Go eat sugar if you make them rich, yourself sick. With keto, my mom lost 45 lbs, down to 132 although she had thyroid disorder which causes significant weight gain, also her thyroid healed, her terrible eczemas gone, constantly low blood values increased, digestion problems end, she is super energetic and happy. I'm doing for 4 years and forgot when I went doctor last. I never get cold...
Come and see me when you get old. There's a reason why you rarely see long term older ketos.
It looks good on the outside....while your insides gets fu**ed up in the long run. Lot of long term ketos are having kidney and heart issues.
Long term older vegans that eats real whole foods......don't.
@@mujinhanfearlessmu9072 none of you said are true... people always say they never want to quit keto cause they never been healthier. l have seen many of them quit medicines cause keto healed their sickness, one is my mom. Also, it reverses chronic kindney disease, lowering insuline to optimum level prevents arteries to clog... do more research if your prejudice let you do
I went vegan= bloated all the time, heartburn, acid reflux, imagine all those antinutrients and oxalates i ingested how beneficial they are.
Aww that's too bad
Im doing keto and my first time in ketosis was like someone turning on a light. My depression and general feeling of illness, itchiness etc…just literally disappeared, like gone. When i tried vegan i felt worse. You couldn’t convince me to ever go vegan again.
Keto mimics fasting and has almost all of the benefits from fasting. Also lipids insulin and leptin improve on keto. Keto reduces risk of stroke and heart disease. Keto isn’t for everybody but it helps a lot of people and I can guarantee more would do better on keto than vegan.
He was my attending several years ago! He’s great!
Love the Wimbledon tie
Do we have long term studies about the impact of the keto diet?
Anybody ever wonder what the gall bladder is for? It's for storing and concentrating bile for the purposes of digesting fat. Why would we have an organ for storing and concentrating bile if we weren't meant to eat fat heavy meals? The liver can only produce a small amount, so there's the gallbladder doing the work to allow us to eat that huge fat meal. Herbivores have no gallbladder, so they weren't supposed to eat much fat... we were. Just like other species of omnivores and carnivores. Plants are great, I love them. But to assume this dogma of a veggie-only diet is denying our own species adaptation for survival. Eat your greens people, and follow it up with a grass-fed steak and a few macadamias.
good stuff. would b awesome to include the links to the studies he mentions
Nutrition Made Simple! Agreed!
>Be homo sapiens
>Evolve to eat meat and plants
>Invents fire
>Agriculture creates bread
>y e a h i o n l y e a t p l a n t s h a h a
How much would I have to pay Kim to talk to my parents for an hour? They're killing themselves slowly with food. :(
xyZEN, just show them the video and Kim will talk to them for free. :)
Organise a lecture with Dr.Williams in your city. His email is kim_a_williams@rush.edu
In 2022 I'm still seeing "keto cured this and that and I feel so much better on keto". Either, there really are different diets for different folks (I don't believe that), or, I'd hate to see what they were eating BEFORE 'going keto' such that 'going keto' helped them so much.
Funny how I finish watching and I get an ad for statins. People need to wake up about nutrition, so people don’t have to listen to the 30 side effects from this ad. Love your stuff PBN!
I got an ad for keto, haha!
Got an ad for world carnivore tribe.
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My Nan ate meat everything, tripe, trotters, gristle and the main meat, eggs, butter, dripping and lard... you name it she ate it, she smoked too since she was in her teens... she passed away at 95 years old and was in excellent health until her last few months where she just got old after she started drinking soda and became pre-diabetic. (Edit: she never ever ate junk food!)
There is so much conflicting opinion, I try and eat low carb and as much plant based as possible... veg/vegan is where I'm trying, but I'm allergic to almonds, mushrooms, and tofu comes right back up so I'm dubious where to go next. I don't eat a lot of meat or fish either and I also don't eat breads, cereals, biscuits flour etc... suggestions?
You should avoid plants as you obviously don't tolerate them and that's quite common in many people. Plants are full of lectins and their oils go rancid and inflammatory quickly. Try dairy and stick to cruciferous and leafy greens. Try coconut oil and grass fed butter/ghee to cook with and get as much olive oil in as you can. really pour that on everything :)
Excellent interview! He’s so right about the oil and fat in transition foods.
Better than the alternative imho
I never touch them but I suppose if that’s what they are (ie transition foods) then it may still be ok.
I was vegan, and it didn’t heal my diabetes. I went to keto two years ago, now I have serious angina. Starting vegan again TODAY.
What type of diabetes do you have? Pre diabetes and type 2 can get better but let’s say if it’s decades of damage then you still might have insulin resistance forever since the long term damage, but the amount of insulin you need will significantly less
@@Weesson I’ve had it for 21 years. Type two. It is also familial. In the past week, I have been able to halve my insulin from 60u to 30u, and lower blood glucose readings than when on a keto diet. Says it all really.
@FiddyMK that’s exactly what I do! Working well so far. Massive improvements.
Real ketogenic diet is not high protein! Nutritional keto means high healthy fat, moderate proteins (grass-fed), and a lot of veggies!!!
nanuixt Ditto.
Just want to say though studies have shown that it doesn't matter whether the meat is factory farmed or grass fed, it is still a cause of inflammation.
nanuixt I started off as keto and had “success” on it considering I lost a ton of weight. But I never felt quite right. For a long time I thought high food quality fat moderate protein and low carbs from vegetables was the way to eat. But then I found out that these high animal fat diets’ experiments are conducted my the meat and dairy industry. I don’t trust it anymore. I went vegan and feel great so far. We will see.
"Healthy fat"...that you get only from whole food plants.
i love that science proves veganism is right for us, but for all the people who don't think the fact an animal suffered so much and was killed for their sandwich is reason enough to stop eating flesh , you are lacking the capacity for empathy. watch Earthlings etc and see the suffering meat/flesh consumption causes ...shouldn't this be reason enough???
Common sense is gone, I'm tired of seeing the Keto diet.
Lynn Roberts
that's a gut issue. there are many things that can cause bad gut health. it's not that eating plants is bad, it's just that if your gut health is bad then you will have a bad experience eating plants. there are ways to improve and completely heal gut health. it's understandable that this kind of information would be way out of most people's way though.
Lynn Roberts
since he hasn't answered you yet. vegans are mean simply because people are capable of being mean. being mean itself has absolutely nothing to do with veganism. since people are capable of being mean anyone can be mean whether they are vegan or not. i personally think it's a good bet that most vegans aren't mean.
Lynn Roberts You're right. Ever heard of Vegan Gains? That dude acts crazy.
TrustMeI'mADoctor
i don't agree with everything that guy says, but "acts" is the key word in your post. if you've seen a decent amount of footage of him in public or his vids when he's not calling people out, his behavior isn't much different than most people.
Lynn Roberts hi, i know a lot of buddhist monks who are vegans w/ no health issues. The problem for vegans that destroyed their own digestion is they’re eating crap like this doctor talked about. The ones who eat lots of processed food & french fries. If you think about all the different strange treatments people do on animals for meat would simply turn you off from eating meat & dairy.
Yes! 3 months into my vegan diet, I was able to stop my high blood pressure and cholesterol medication. It has taken a year and a half to lose 45 pounds. I still wish to lose another 20 pounds but since becoming vegan, I will not go into any fad diets or feelings of starvation. I feel very good and know this is best for my health. It’s the only diet that has been easy to sustain. A key to this was research on vegan recipes. I’ve learned to cook so many types of food. It is not a boring diet nor do you ever feel hungry.
Don't not a boring diet it is a opinion k
ganeshrvgk yes that is my opinion okay. Annoying till I die 😊
If you were on keto you would've lost your weight by now. Keto for life ! I used to be a vegan for almost a decade and did my research and keto is the way to go
@@yourenough3 what is your cholesterol? LDL
@@billdublewhopper3064 176 , I eat clean food no gmos no seeds no vegetable oils
Great questions Klaus
Interesting because there are many people that I've seen, who go keto and even full carnivore that have a Triglyceride/HDL ratio of under 1. High LDL yes but the Triglyceride/HDL ratio is the real indicator of risk of heart disease.
thank you for that! he also recommends foods that will make your glucose skyrocket off the charts. deadly advice.
EXCELLENT video. Thank you so much for this. It will be a re-post on all my social media!!
thank you!
There are whole populations of the world that are primarily if not 100% vegetarian. I don't hear about them living to 200. Also, not all humans are the same, not even at the same age. You change over time. Ask someone who grew up drinking cow milk every day for decades and suddenly becomes lactose intolerant. What works for you may not work for another and not at the same time or age either. There is no ONE SOLUTION that fits everyone. People are always looking for the ONE SOLUTION to any one thing, but that's a fool's errand.
And another thing! lol It doesn't matter what you eat if it makes you hate every second of your life while doing it. If eating Bambi is your thing and you're happy then go for it. Same thing goes for the kale crowd. If eating a specific diet makes you miserable with constant diarrhea and bloating, what's the point? You can live longer on the throne?
I love Bambi :D
Great interview, very interesting. It would be good to get the scientists who advocate the Keto diet together with the plant based scientists for a proper scientific debate so both sides can challenge each other and we can learn the truth.
Yup
Check out vintage Gregor... ua-cam.com/video/r2JgYgZcRbk/v-deo.html
Some ppl go overboard on the meat protein, but low sugar, high fiber, high good fats, moderate protein will work fine for ketosis. Combined with IF, its a lifelong way to eat. Atherosclerosis begins in your 20's if you eat overly processed grains, sugar, added sugar, high fructose drinks, and highly processed seed and vegetable oils.
Eat clean, minimally processed foods. If its got a barcode, its probably not good for you.
I hope to convert my family. First I need to get the weight-loss results. I've been obese so long, I understand the skepticism of taking health advice from the fat one.
How’s it going? Did you succeed in the weight loss? Even if you didn’t, you’re still healthier
Go in Keto you will do well
i understand what youre saying mate. so howd you go?
@@seitanbeatsyourmeat666 Lovely comment mate. Just beaut.
Keto since march 2014. Ketovore since 2019. Carnivore for maybe 6 months. 55 years old. Strength training consistently for about 12 years. Stronger and healthier, both physically and mentally, than ever.
I've been ketovore for 6 years now. Healthiest I've ever been in my life.
Hmmm I have never felt so good on Keto. Now I was on a plant based diet. Ate extremely well. I grew my own food no sugar drank juices of wheat grass and kale. Now I did this for 25 years. But I felt week. However I was in the area of little or no fat. I was tired most of the time. Now I’m on Keto. However. I have very good fats. Very little grass fed meat and organic veggies lots of. I think if people are eating bacon eggs and nothing but meat it’s not a proper Keto Plus I’m 120 pounds 5 foot 3. I’m not fat. Did not do this for weight loss