Exploring the Dark World of Kik Messenger
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Kik is not safe. Kik is the home of many horrible people. This video is a little more intense than my others because we get right into the very dark sides of Kik Messenger. Hopefully we can shed some light on the dark world of Kik Messenger.
CHAPTERS
0:00 - The Dangers
1:34 - Reddit, I Need Your Help
3:26 - The Experiment
6:01 - i wanna take you to the woods...
7:18 - Taylor's Story
8:36 - The Black Market
9:16 - The Kik Message that Sparked Fear
10:44 - r/KikPals
12:03 - The Forbidden Community
13:28 - i just wanted to make friends...
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SOURCES (Incomplete):
tuv - The Horrors of Kik Messenger: • The Horrors of Kik Mes...
Gubby - Kik Messenger: • Kik Messenger: The Kid...
WOOD TV8 - Kik App Warning: • Sexual predator warns ...
ABC News - David: • How Virginia Tech Stud...
Kik Stats: www.searchlogistics.com/grow/...
MB: www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/...
BBC Kik Cases: www.bbc.com/news/uk-45568276
Kik: darknetdiaries.com/transcript...
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man im so happy you made a vid, tbh ur one of the best documetary makers out there, right up there with tuv and sunnyv2
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I still recall having kik in 2012 to 2014 ish. I don’t there’s ever been a day where that app was used innocently.
I ain’t shocked with the predatory shenanigans as I almost fell into that trap as a child myself, but I am flabbergasted to hear it’s still active enough to keep the servers running
You’re right. I think I got it in 2011 before group chats were on the app and the browser was still in the app. The grooming attempts were IMMEDIATE
I remember the videos of Guinea pigs being abused that went around
I got lucky and used it innocently. I was 14 back then and only messaged my friends , I didn’t care enough to use the “find a group “ thing. Any time I got inappropriate messages from strangers (thankfully only happened once or twice) I just blocked them bc I thought they were either robots or they were really bad at catfishing .
@@HayesTransport we were part of the same time period of kik!! That’s so freaky. I remember the actual people who MADE those vids. I was in contact with one, his name was wynter and he’s still on kik
@@SawyBoy I never knew where they came from, I was focused on making the jailbreak kik8 repo but they always ended up in chat some how
I was groomed several times and blackmailed on kik. Appreciate you talking about this app on your platform
Edit: Thank you for all of the sweet messages, I’m okay now but it wasn’t easy to heal.. also stop the victim blaming it’s not cool
Damn, i hope you didnt suffer much
Holy shit! What happened after you got blackmailed?
Hope your doing well after everything you've been through
I was lucky enough to not be blackmailed but the emotional distress it really did cause. I thank God he protected me those couple of times I was on it.
Sorry to hear about that, it sucks how people can be like this.
I’m so happy to hear someone talk about this. I was groomed on Kik at 12 and I’ve felt so ashamed for so many years. It’s scary out there and I would advise parents to keep a close eye on your kids. They might be mad but it’s for their own good.
I feel the same - I feel this video will help me come to terms with how horrific everything was.
I really hope you're doing well ❤
@@MrJamiezhey! grooming has many types. there's s3xual manipulation, emotional manipulation and more that i can't really remember. i was groomed and emotionally manipulated on discord by a 23 year old about 5 months ago now. they used me as a therapist and manipulated me into thinking they'd k1ll themselves if i ever left them. i couldn't block them or delete discord because i knew they'd hurt themselves if i did. i only realised what was happening when my friend told me that it was wrong. it makes you feel trapped because of the threats they give you. ppl can also trick you into thinking that they're you're friend and i guess being friends with someone older makes you feel more cool and grown up but what's truly happening is blind to you. if you have any questions ill try my best to answer :)
This! I was scared and ashamed but eventually he left me alone and stopped threatening me, I forgot about the whole thing till homeland security knocked on our door to talk about how they was investigating my groomer
Man I remember those days, when I used to play online mobile games, kik became popular suddenly and me and my friends used to use it to talk to each other, it was all fine at first until some year later that a lot of scary stuff started happening, scary death messages, old men texting me, etc, etc. To see that this app got even worse now, it's truly upsetting and disappointing.
Scary to imagine. I'm glad nothing happened to you! It's strange for me to imagine being able to message friends on a phone since I'm from the 80s. Closest thing for me was over the radio (sometimes we'd hear dealers on there).
Its gotten so much worse! Its an absolute cesspool i promise. Nothing but pedophiles, scammers, kik "hackers", and a handful of good ppl trying to fight back to no avail.
Same here, my friends and I used Kik because some of them did not have cell phones to text with. Luckily, I always made sure to block people who I did not know because my parents made sure to tell me internet safety tips. I never used my real face on my profile, same with my friends. I never touched groups either. Seriously, internet safety is something that NEEDS to be taught to young kids in the digital age.
I was blackmailed on Kik before, luckily I was able to call their bluff. They claimed if I didn’t pay they would post pictures of me all over my friends’ social media. However, I never gave them my social media and there’s a sea of people with my name
Well how would they have pictures of you?
@@industrialover it's easy to pray on the imagination of teenagers because you can lie point blank and say you hacked their iCloud or Google storage and let their imagination run wild on what pictures you can claim to have and send out two friends and family. It's easier to let them fill in the blanks and scare themselves because stranger on the internet always seems more dangerous after you've been made a fool of by them
@@industrialover they can't it's basically a scare tactic to get stupid kids and tech illiterate people to may them money and shit
I used this app in 2016/2017 as a 16 year old. Never knew about this side of Kik. I accepted messages sometimes from strangers but was very well taught on never sending anything to anyone growing up. I never encountered anything like this. I suppose I'm lucky.
I’m so glad you avoided this! Difficult to do
Very lucky
I was groomed on kik when I was 14-ish and I just have to say I appreciate you talking about this. I feel like people knew kik was dangerous but was ignored and then forgotten. I’m still uncomfortable talking about what happened to me years later but seeing all the comments and watching this video brings me a little bit of comfort not being alone.
I too used kik to talk with friends thankfully I didn’t encounter anything weird and I was smart enough not to trust people like my mom said all these years I thought she was nagging me but I realized she wanted to keep me safe
If kik is still around it needs to get burned down and banned before more crazy people take advantage of others
I don't blame the kids, KIK, or the government. I blame the parents for allowing their kids use this technology without being monitored.
So u saying kids can't just do what they want as kids don't blame the pedo blame the kid u must not be American I can tell ur a dumb ass
As someone who used kik at this age along with my friends, I witnessed ALOT of people circumventing the supervision. Like deleting the app, hiding the app under fake names, logging out before they check your phone or logging out every night etc. there were ways lol
I would just like to thank you for bringing light onto dark topics like these and bringing them into a safer place, while keeping everything nice and organized in a well-edited manner.
You have just earned yourself a new sub
less "bringing light" the light's been on kik for like 3 weeks lol. but yeah his vids are good
Thanks for exposing the dark side of Kik. I was waiting for this video to come out and here it is!
:)
Now I know what Kik is and it's dark secret thank you
I can personally attest to the disgusting nature of Kik. When I was a teenager multiple people, more than I'd like to say, took advantage of me using the app. It's a horrible place to be especially as a vulnerable teenager.
Alot of us young adults were groomed, manipulated, and abused as children on Kik and nobody helped us. It's such a sad country we live in where our government and grown adults allowed this to happen.
Unfortunately i can't believe I'm agreeing to this
I was groomed from 11-16 by a guy on kik. He was 18 when we first started talking. We stayed friends until I was about 15 and then things got.. really out of hand. It was very toxic and I realized how gross and monstrous he was. He threatened my life and I had to delete all social media for a while. Then I threatened him with the police and I haven't heard from him since thank God. I never really thought about how weird and gross our relationship was until I was 18 and in a real relationship.
I remember when Tumblr was like this. I used to get messages by pedophiles literally daily, it wasn't until the sexual content ban that everyone moved to Twitter and the messages literally stopped entirely.
Never had tumblr but excuse me???
unfortunately tumblr is still like this. all the creeps use very specific, censored tags and use a lot of code words to avoid getting banned
@@anqeal Code words got banned last year, stuff like lemonX, lemon, etc. But I'm sure some still go through the cracks but they've gotten good at getting rid of them.
@@phasingaway dear child? WTF LMAO.
@@anonuser1279 yeah because they didn’t want to be banned from the apple App Store and lose money again.
… maybe Apple should get rid of Kik as well for the same reasons.
Thank you for bringing light to this, i hope that soon kik can be made 18+ or ideally just removed from the appstore. Being on kik was one of the worst things that has happened to me, terrible people forced me to do things i was not comfortable with at all.
The whole app is just filled with suggestive pictures, and it wasn’t even 5 hours and I literally had a sex bot dm me an inappropriate picture. The app should definitely have its rating changed.
On multiple occasions I was pulled into group chats involving horrible things I don't even want to say. Kik was one of the worst things that ever happened to me.
so did i
Same. Made me into the person i am today and that isnt a good thing
yeah me too. they sent disgusting things
I'm surprised you didn't mention Mekayla Bali. She vanished after using Kik.
Use to be a kik user so many creeps on it. So glad to see you covering the app.
I am so glad kik is being talked about more and the horror of this app is being brought to light.
I just wanna say that you are one of the best documentary UA-camrs to come out of 2022. You’re going far beyond 1mil in 2023. I love your content, the purpose of it and your message. You’ve got a fan in me!
Yo thank you SO MUCH. Means the world to me. The fact that you say you stand with my purpose and my message. All I wanna do is help people and I’m glad I get to do just that 🙏🏽
Came in as soon as the premiere started. As usual you never dissapoint. You cover such serious and vast topics in short videos. Its so sad things like this happen to literal children, people are so sick i swear.
´dora the destroyer´ great name
u eanr a sub for great video i never knew i was adopted
It’s terrifying seeing how many people were truly affected. So many adults took advantage of these kids and manipulated them to such an extent that they still are affected to this day
Dumb people
I was groomed as a kid on kik, and the only thing that saved 12 year old me from actually meeting up with that person was my own intuition. I hung out in the mental health spaces, which now that im grown I realize is where predators go to hunt. I have so many stories from that app that could have turned terrifying real quick if I had just made one wrong choice.
I hope you have a good life stranger
I am glad you are safe, wishing you well. You matter
That’s horrible hope you’re okay now it’s bs kik won’t keep people protected ofc they are one of them rich ass companies who care about money and no ones lives they need to ban this app this app and what’s app as well is very horrible don’t trust anyone
Love the content and video editing visual, you really knocked the ball out of the park with this one! Can’t wait for more!
Thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽. We’re just constantly trying to improve!
Check out DR Davinsky on UA-cam. He covers super dark topics
Can’t wait! It’s awesome how much effort you put into these videos, not only entertaining but very informative. Keep it up!!
It's crazy how well-made these videos are but how underrated they are. Hopefully, you grow up to be a successful documentary channel because you deserve it.
this is going to be a tough watch as i was groomed on kik from the age of 13 to around 16. when i was diagnosed with bpd they said the abuse i suffered by the men on that app may have contributed to the cause of my bpd. kik was no joke!! thank you for raising awareness
Great video! I believe a lot of us around the age of 18-25 who have used Kik all have some strange and at least mildly traumatizing experience on the platform. Keep making these videos man! you deserve way more subs with this quality!
I used it to talk with friends, not strange adults. I was taught stranger danger.
We appreciate your analysis. You'll always have our support along the way.
I am so glad I found your channel towards the beginning of 2022, and so excited to see what else you have in store for us. That last story was so sad! 😭😭
This may sound messed up, but I had a friend who made a fake account on Reddit and posed as a 20 year old woman looking for dudes to chat with on kik. Over the span of a year, he had probably 500+ dudes send him extremely obsessive, and sexual messages. One of them even made a drawing of the woman he used as his profile picture. Others said they would do anything they asked him to, even if they wouldn't get anything in return. It was insane
Trust me, women know. A huge amount of men act like complete animals online. I had to change my snoo profile character off of a woman because men would see I had a female avatar and send me creepy messages. It is very pathetic
@@divine5328 I get them sometimes too. I have had some absolute weirdo stalk me and constantly say he loves me everywhere he went. Blocking him didn’t work no matter how hard I tried. I have also had some random guy show me his thing right off the bat in a Discord dm randomly. Then I’ve had like 8 people in a Discord server ask me to send them pics of myself and my ‘t**s’ and ask whether I’d get w**. Alot of these people are insane.
Most people dont know what Kik is anymore, but when I was thinking of redownloading the app (because my friends and I used to use it) , I saw some videos on it being scary and more
When I installed it I got contacted by a prostitute. So from that alone, Kik devolved into a shady dating app
@@scrittle I'm sorry for that, hope you're doing better now
definitely do not download it and trust your gut
the good ol days of kik,,, I was groomed, doxxed, ddosed, blackmailed, scammed, all before I was even a teen. good times
These are one of those few rare channels that you would get actually excited for... keep up the amazing work!
i remember being a 12 year old girl and getting messages from random older ¨women¨. thankfully i wasnt sent anything and refused to speak with them. i deleted it shortly after.
I hope you make more videos like this exposing apps to innocent people who doesn't know this dark secrets
Thanks man
Keep it up
i live in the same area nicole lovell did and it was terrifying when all of this happened. my heart still breaks for her and her family.
There was so much shady stuff on this app, it gives me chills to think about how often I used to use it. Thank you for talking about this
Can't wait for the next doc Visual, you are among my favorite youtubers! I can't wait for more and hope you have a fantastic day!
I was groomed and SAd on the platform when I was a minor. Thank you for making this and shedding light on the dark side of this platform.
how do u get SAd on an app..
@@poniedust1799 I'll spare your innocence
@@poniedust1799i was gonna ask the same thing
@@bunfart9011Aw, that's nice of you! But if they wanna know you can tell them! However if talking about it in public scares you then... I won't mind hearing it privately!
@@ri____h3nr628 well there was a lot of psychological torture involved, weaponizing the police, a lot of coercion etc that spanned about 8 months. not sure if this answers ur curiosity adequately.
I've been noticing that your quality has gotten WAY BETTER. good job man!!
AYE I APPRECIATE THAT. I’ve been focusing much more on quality and I’m super glad someone noticed 😃
Also have an amazing team :)
@Visual Venture nice to see that you have a good team!
didnt even realize this really happened to me until i got older. im amazed
Wow this is amazing. I got excited when I saw you were premiering
He needs faster uploads I’ve been binging all of these like they are candy, they are amazing keep up the great work. Love you videos
ayee thank you for the support my friend. yeah im working hard to create a bigger team this year so hopefully I can pump out one video every two weeks!
I remember using kik back in 2015 to talk to youtubers, I'm happy I never got to the dark side..
This is so wild and interesting for me to learn because I used Kik to talk to my gaming friends and I never witnessed any of this, it's gross to think about what hides beneath, great video.
Amazing video! I really liked the editing and the tuv cameos!
I use to use kik back in 2015 and my experience was very jarring to say the least. I use to get tons of messages from new people all trying to exploit me. I had made a couple of friends who turned out to be not good people. Horrible stuff man.
So sad how people can turn a simple texting app into a child fishing site.
yeah :(
awesome video man! keep up the good work.
I fell in love with this channel after I watched on of the discord documentaries and I can't stop watching!
I was always mad as a kid that neither me nor my parents had smartphones back then but now I'm kinda relieved
What annoys me that most is the fact that publicly the evil and disgusting people are barely held accountable, it's always "the platforms fault". No, there are just disgusting and evil people out there.
Some dude threatened to boot me offline on that app it’s sad I can tell them people get no attention other then catfishing and predatory behavior ugh it disgusts me that they don’t ban this damn app
And another thing I hate about kik is they have modded versions of the app where you can hack people or hide their whole username and you can’t see when they are typing it’s very creepy I’m soo glad I deleted that shitty app these kinds of apps are harmful to children or even adults discord is another app that has got to go there is hardly any moderation on these apps so the developers let them do anything and not gaf about people’s lives at all it’s very scary they need a thing that tells people what apps are safe and what aren’t too many people out there are crazy
I absolutely love your videos.
More content(hopefully longer content) PLEASE ‼️❤❤❤
Appreciate you 🙏🏽
Really love this type of content your videos looks amazing Keep up the Good work
I really enjoy watching these videos. They are very informative and interesting to watch. I dont understand how you dont have a million subs lol
Kik has always been an iffy place, but it was the best place to chat for a while.
I wish the video would have gone more in depth into the history of kik and its different changes over the years, and how to secure your account from all these people messaging you etc. (i wasnt even aware public group chats were a thing, I joined the app before that was added.)
I think it also would have been nice to go more in detail about the experiment you guys did with chat receipts etc.
Otherwise I really liked it! Im glad someone took to talking about Kik in the end and gave a voice to the victims of the app. Thank you for this!
thank you so much for making this video. it wasnt kik but discord, i was blackmailed and extorted multiple times and also groomed on there and it caused me so much emotional damage and i dont ever want anyone to go through what i did. everyday i was in constant fear of something happening to me or my family and it was the worst feeling ive ever felt :(
Discord is genuinely a dark web site.
@@Austro07I can confirm this
It's always a good day when Visual Venture uploads a new video
Great video man !
Thank you for talking about this. I was groomed, traumatised and emotionally broken on this app. It’s sad to how many of us it happened to.
So many kids i know my age were groomed in the app in like 5th-7th grade. it’s so sad that so many of us went through this.
Damn, UA-cam recommendations came through this time. instant sub and like my dude.
I am so glad someone made a video about this
I was groomed by a 17 year old boy when I was 9 and then by 50+ year old men when I was 13 on Kik, I'm so glad people are talking about how dangerous this app is
If I had a dollar for every time I was groomed on kik, I'd have enough compensation for a single incident.
Just found tour channel. First vid, very excited. Will be subscribing.
i been waiting for this one
This is a really well made video and really shows the problems with the general internet today quite well! I have a couple suggestions tho, imo there are too many chapter separations and the video would really flow better with bigger more general chapters (just the borders of each chapter). Also I didn't really get why you blurred out some words. Anyway, great video!
Kick is the definition of Hell on Earth
how does visual venture make such good, informative videos? like srsly they're amazing!
this channel is literally the best!
The fact that I received unsolicited photos from grown men when I was a minor because of Kik
You trying to say you are traumatised by that?
@@THIRTEENTH13TH Not really traumatized but disgusted. Some random guy just thought it was ok to send that to me and I blocked him.
@@Elanasinterlude it may have been on kik but it wasn’t because of it. It’s because of human immorality
As a parent myself i staryed teaching my daughter the horrible side of life young, people always say they don't want to ruin their innocence, i just want them to be a kid etc. But in the internet age there is no innocence, only ignorance to the dangers out in the world. People think they can raise their kids like we were raised because it was only a couple decades ago, but the internet has changed everything when it comes to predators. My daughter has made me proud with all her decisions thus far and all we can do as parents is hope we gave them the tools to survive.
I just came across Tuv last week, enjoy his videos and yours as well after just coming across you this past week, I enjoy educational videos that explain things regarding social media
It’s is truly crazy seeing how huge this was.
My ass was on club penguin
I downloaded KiK when I was in 3rd grade, summer school. My friend introduced me to the app and I was glad because we had no other forms of communication. Making an account was very easy, the email didn't have to be verified. I was in a group chat with my friend and some mutual friends. There was a guy who had his display name as this celebrity, I searched him up and I pretty much knew it wasn't him, that didn't matter though.
He messaged me in DMs and asked if we could roleplay. Now, I was an 8 year old Gacha kid so I guess I liked to roleplay. I said okay and wondered what he wanted to roleplay. He said he wanted to do a " Master-Servant " roleplay and I was scared
I'm pretty sure he knew my age, since my friend introduced me to the group chat. It was obvious that he's way older than me since the topic of Master-Servant anything was new to me.
Never heard of this but you know that this video is going to inform us with some good info
this is probably the best content on youtube!
I remember making a kik account when I was 12 and had it till I was around 15 before I moved to instagram. I was big into anime and used it to talk with school friends and role play as anime characters with strangers mainly from Anime Amino. I remember meeting this guy that was 28 around when I was 13 and he groomed me into believing that I was in a relationship with him. I’ve seen things no child should see at that age because of that app. So many other disgusting things went down between me and child predators during the time I had kik. I wish I could erase it all
Between 2013-16/17ish, I was upset that my foster mom wouldn't let me have this app when my older foster brother William had it. Now I'm grateful I never joined it, thank you!
Finally I've waited for this vid
Thankyou for this informative content. Its important to warn people especially the younger generations of the many dangers of the internet.
I think it's stupid that you have to censor certain words on UA-cam. It's almost like they're protecting these people........
I can't believe that kik made me a victim too and I'm shocked to remember this all
always a good day when you post
Another banger love the content
I get asking parents to supervise their kids, but if your app is that inappropriate for minors, then dont kade it accessible for them.
They'd make a killing if they leaned into it being for adults
I remember using kik when i was 10 and it was super creepy. Id always have these weird bots try to talk to me
Hey just subscribed! Really good investigative reporting!! I had never heard ok Kik, I guess cause I’m 57 years old! Lol..but I have kids that were teenagers at that time with smart phones, so I wish I knew about it back then! Grateful that they didn’t encounter anything real serious using social apps…❤❤
Thank you Jen!
I'm so excited!
You should do one about Instagram too!
so we all got groomed on kik
I recall using kik when i was 16 and met a guy who was at least 25. I used to talk with him about random stuff until he sent me a selfie of himself, wanting to become closer to me. Naturally, I didn't send him any pictures of myself but still continued chatting with him, UNTIL he started telling me how he would do explicit things to me, anything that was sexual in nature. I reminded him that I was still a minor and he said and I quote, "that's not a problem". Man, i was so disgusted i immediately blocked him and uninstalled the app but I really regret not saving any pictures of his face and conversation and sending them to the police.
I am really sorry you went through that. Your life is way more valuable and precious than that piece of trash's ever will be
150K subs bro! im proud i've been here since you were at only 70 subs and growing cause this channel has blown up since the Disturbing Truth about TikTok video
Yo thanks Joe 🙏🏽. That’s insane how you’ve been here since the very beginning.
Let's go I love when you upload ♥
Nah this isn't the dark world of Kik it just straight up normal world of Kik.
In Kik's slight defense. I always hated how much hate it gets when Snapchat is just as bad if not worst and no one ever calls out Snapchat.
and in sc they got the change to have it all deleted unlike kik
@@poroounicorn6568 have what deleted ?
visualventure got the best documentaries🙌🙌