Suggestion: for engine start, better you turn on the avionics 2 to display Ng and ITT indicator.. cause once you turn on the starter switch you have to monitor Ng reading minimum 12% and then you put low idle fuel lever.. After 52% minimum of Ng, then you can switch off your starter switch.. my two cent opinion
Wow thank you @The Sim Pilot for your effort. I don't use any help chart like Navy graph or Simbrief or others who exist on the web just the integrated feature in MSFS as for me it is just fine at the time this sim game is developped. I wait for VNAV feature to be alive in game and some others fix of glitches. Talking about this C208 GC EX, even it has no influence on the simulation, I was thinking about the electrical panel for the switch named Ignition; I believed this switch should be ON before engaging the Starter switch as the Boost pump must be to High position as you done and return to Normal position only for take off and landing other that time I believed this Boost pump would be to Off . I don't have a POH manual about the C208 ,but what I talk fall under a good sens. And for the red Condition lever acting like a mixture reading some others videos about this aircraft, the comments said we can leave the condition lever to Max just reducing it when the Ng is approching the risk zone to reduce the risk of over charging the fuel in the turbine. This action reduce also the Fuel Flow if you don't want to burn to much fuel but a contrario of a mixture it has no effect vs the pressure altitude. The good process to reduce the power (may be I'm wrong) is first reduce the throttle (that act on the torque) then reduce the RPM because if you first reduce the RPM, the torque rise. For the RPM a good range is between 1750/1760. From this you could add more throttle power. For the speeds TO is 70/75 like you done, but the climb speed en route is around 110 Knts and the glide for descending is around 95 Knts. Vr 70/75- Vx best rate of climb around 74 knts- Vy best angle of climb around 95 Knts and climb en route around 110 knts. You could leave the flaps to TO position while you don't reach 95 knts on the climb then retract to speed up to 110 knts to climb en route. Another glitch on the heading bug sometimes this blue bug indicator don't set correctly to the top of the HSI when pressing the Heading button on the AP panel. to correct that, press the D key before pressing with the mouse pointer the Heading rotating button on the AP panel. Iwas so happy to watch your new video about the C208 , I'm too talkative XD . Sorry for that. Enjoyed your video and the skin you use for your C208 is very very nice. thank you so much for letting us so happy. Have a nice week waiting your next video. Friendly Gerard
Hi Gerard, looks like you know more about this aircraft than me. Frankly speaking I haven't flown Cessna 208 too often and tried to gather some information before recording. Thanks for the informative comment.
As I´ve said before, I like your videos/tutorials. Your voice is nice and calm :-) Two little things in the takeoff part: I don't think that you take off with full flaps, only stage 1 in the 208. The other thing is I think you forgott the inertial separator. I'm sure you know what that is all about and you just forgott it. Thanks for your effort making these videos. I hope you don't think I am picky but considering the lights I think the first thing you turn on is the NAV-lights. Just to show grounpersonal that someone is in the aircraft "doing things" and then, just before enginestart, you turn the beacon on. Before starting to taxi, the taxilight and then at holdingpoint landinglight and strobes and taxilight off. Some wait until lineup. I guess it doesn't matter much. Sorry for the remarks! :-) Further in the video you pull back on the "mixture". Sorry, there is no such thing as "mixture" in a turboprop. It is a jetengine with a propeller attached. After a correct startup you always use full forward on the conditionlever, all the way until shutting engine down at parking or gate.
I do not mind corrections at all, in fact I do appreciate them. As you mentioned C208 can take-off without flaps or 15 degree flaps that was my mistake. Inertial separator should be on to prevent the debris from getting into the engine. all your comments are welcome and I don't think you're picky. It's important to do it right if we're simulating a flight and thanks for all the corrections.
Enjoyed this one too. You inspired me to shoot a bunch of RNAV approaches to see how they work in this sim. I ran into a problem that seems to persist from the initial release: RNAV comes in several flavors (See AIM), so I tried one at a local airport near where I grew up (KDPA outside Chicago). I used the default Caravan as you did, departed from O'Hare (28R) and set up (via the World screen) an RNAV approach to 20R at KDPA. The flight plan went well until it was time to intercept the glide path. Nothing! It just kept trundling along at altitude. Tried many variations (entry altitude, airspeed, point at which I switch APR mode on) and watched your video again. Nada! So, I moved to a short flight from my home drome (KHPN) in New York to Stewart International, Rwy 27. Worked like a charm - with a strangeness: I didn't manage my altitude as you did to arrive at the FAF at proper altitude. I thought it was going to shoot past this one also, but when it got to the FAF, the glidepath kicked in and we went on a wild (1200 fpm) ride down to catch the glide path. I rode it out and landed (not as well as you did!) with no problem. Several more tries worked also with altitude management and different entry altitudes. Then I got curious: I flew from KHPN to KSWF but to the RNAV approach to Rwy 10. Flew right past! I'm continuing to check this out, but I've got a suspicion that the sim currently fakes the RNAV glide path by using the existing glide slope that the ILS provides. Rwy 27 also has an ILS/LOC approach while Rwy 10 does not. I was not tuned to the ILS. I remember one video (I think it was one of yours.) where the same thing happened: missing the capture of the glide path. I don't think I'm crazy; I'll keep looking. (Nov 11 approx. update, no Working Title mods in place for the Caravan - there aren't any, dual monitor for G1000 repeater windows, Thrustmaster T16000, Dell G7 with GTX whatever)
I think you might be right about sim faking the GP, with RNAV it always has been a hit or miss, hopefully Asobo will fix all Autopilot issues, they said they are working on a patch and potential release is 02/2021. We'll see if anything improves in the meantime. also another potential failure reason is the quality of navigational data. that also needs improvements.
@@TheSimPilot Maybe it's more complicated than that. RNAV is a catchall can of worms. Witness this discussion of the current state of affairs with RNAV: www.ifr-magazine.com/technique/rnav-versus-rnp/. Maybe the RNP (Required Navigational Performance) of each airplane is different. This was the Caravan with a G1000. Not worth going into detail here, but the RNAV performance requirements may well play a part. Certainly, though, the GS and GP problem needs to be fixed. Hoping for the best in 2021.
Nice video! What are your settings for the tooltips? How do I minimize the appearance of them and also change them from a scroll function to a click function? For example let’s say for a heading knob not only is there a minimalist tool tip label but also instead of holding click and using the mouse wheel to turn the knob left to right I can just click and hold? Or single click. Any help would be appreciated!
Is there a reason to whenever I try to do an ils approach (from a plight plan, SET IN MENU w/ low altitude IFR, direct approach, and setting myself to an ILS Rwy) when I get in FAF the gps just completely takes me away from the approach, is that because I have NAV equipped? Also a problem I see is the flight plan isn’t what it showed in the menus in the menu where you set your flight plan it shows a simple direct route with a little half loop here and there to abide by the pattern needed to fly into the approach, when I get to that point in real time (I think around transition point) and I get on my approach line all of a sudden I look at my FPL on my G1000 and it starts putting me In like 20+nm holding patterns, is this realistic? I’m super confused and an at home learner with only 25 of flight time so a 15-20 min flight turns into a 40+ minute flight elongating it from as I see it very unnecessarily
Hi, I'm still learning the turboprops and what I learned is during cruise you use the prop to set the RPM which is different for each aircraft. And use the mixture to lean the engine. Throttle is pretty much untouched.
nice video Sim Pilot. Quick question.....how were you able to activate reverse thrust? Reverse thrust in the sim is idle for me on my throttle quadrant (Logitech Pro Throttle)
I have the Thrustmaster TCA Officer pack which does have a reverse thrust zone on the quadrant. For you you have to either bind reverse thrust to an axis or to a button to toggle it on or off.
Bind Reverse Thrust toggle to a button. Then hit that button and use your throttle to engage reverse thrust. More throttle is more reverse thrust. Toggle the button to turn off reverse thrust and revert the throttle to normal use.
I am so confused, the Xbox version cruise speed is about 140 KTS and I can barely get a good climbing rate at 100KTS, are they different kind of planes on PC and XBOX? Also on the standby instrument at 160 KTS the dial already turns amber colour. What’s the best FLC speed for climbing on the xbox version?
They shouldn't be different per platform. Not sure what is causing your problems but this aircraft should be able to climb at 150 - 170 kts without problems
@@TheSimPilot Not specifically but you can do it in the 208 or the Cessna 172, I just wanted to see how it is done using the G 1000. I also would like the “ROL” explained with the AP and FD functions. The other thing is I tried using the Cessna 208 and it starts out running on the runway I want to know how I can get to start on the ramp and do a full start and taxi like you did, thank you for your great work.
@@aviatortrucker6198 you need to select one of the ramps at the world map menu after selecting the airport. If you leave it at runway it will start the plane at the runway with engines running. O do have plenty of ILS approaches under the tutorials playlist with C172
Would be great if some real world procedures were followed, I find MSFS rather arcade like, and that take off doesn’t persuade me otherwise, oh and NEVER land a Caravan at idle thrust.
Well x plane has a lot of 3rd party places that you can purchase. But I like FS2020 no other simulator world looks this good right now not too many aircraft options but it will get better in time in my opinion when 3rd party developers release their products.
Sorry about that, there are more on the channel where I explained how to enter the flight plan. Especially recent ones with the updated G1000NXI mod. Here is a link to most recent one ua-cam.com/video/QNU2cZizocY/v-deo.html
@@panzervitiger3882 It is actually very useful to have charts and navdata from the same source. Also you can track your flight and overlay the charts to have a better visual understanding of what will happen at each stage.
@@TheSimPilot It seems very good. I loved your video on the CJ4 btw, very well done tutorial! Personally I use simbrief (free version) to plan my flights, how do I know which runway to take off from and to land at?
@@panzervitiger3882 If you're using Simbrief it should give you the Runway information. It's taking the weather into consideration and doing a good guess on active runways. I'll point to that in the next tutorial to give you a visual reference. Also planing on an updated CJ4 episode the mod has a lot of improvements that I want to share and there is also a simbrief integration too.
@@TheSimPilot I happened to bump in your video "by accident", I was not looking for it. Actually I was looking for something related to the Cessna 208, but not a Flightsim video. I'm an airline captain and presently fly A320 Family aircraft. What struck me is how wrong your flow, sequences, procedures, and statement were or wrongly interpreted in comparison to the real world. Hence the comment. For example: you need to explain how possibly a "mixture control handle" can find its place in a turboprop cockpit, plus many many others. Keep studying son.
@@pake6728 I respect all real life pilots. However. the videos I post are not for real life use. They get the job done in the simulator whether you like it or not. I'm still learning and there are people around who are nice enough to explain so that I can correct myself. I'm not as knowledgeable in turbo props as I'm in airliners. I would have liked a constructive criticism more than your sarcastic approach. And please do not call me "Son" next time.
Thank you dude... is A GREAT VIDEO!... TOTALLY AMAZING!... Regards!!!
Glad you liked it!
I found this video very informative, enjoyed it very much!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice content 👌 I'll definitely watch all content!
Thank you!
Suggestion: for engine start, better you turn on the avionics 2 to display Ng and ITT indicator.. cause once you turn on the starter switch you have to monitor Ng reading minimum 12% and then you put low idle fuel lever.. After 52% minimum of Ng, then you can switch off your starter switch.. my two cent opinion
Thanks so much for the recommendation.
Wow thank you @The Sim Pilot for your effort. I don't use any help chart like Navy graph or Simbrief or others who exist on the web just the integrated feature in MSFS as for me it is just fine at the time this sim game is developped. I wait for VNAV feature to be alive in game and some others fix of glitches. Talking about this C208 GC EX, even it has no influence on the simulation, I was thinking about the electrical panel for the switch named Ignition; I believed this switch should be ON before engaging the Starter switch as the Boost pump must be to High position as you done and return to Normal position only for take off and landing other that time I believed this Boost pump would be to Off . I don't have a POH manual about the C208 ,but what I talk fall under a good sens. And for the red Condition lever acting like a mixture reading some others videos about this aircraft, the comments said we can leave the condition lever to Max just reducing it when the Ng is approching the risk zone to reduce the risk of over charging the fuel in the turbine. This action reduce also the Fuel Flow if you don't want to burn to much fuel but a contrario of a mixture it has no effect vs the pressure altitude. The good process to reduce the power (may be I'm wrong) is first reduce the throttle (that act on the torque) then reduce the RPM because if you first reduce the RPM, the torque rise. For the RPM a good range is between 1750/1760. From this you could add more throttle power. For the speeds TO is 70/75 like you done, but the climb speed en route is around 110 Knts and the glide for descending is around 95 Knts. Vr 70/75- Vx best rate of climb around 74 knts- Vy best angle of climb around 95 Knts and climb en route around 110 knts. You could leave the flaps to TO position while you don't reach 95 knts on the climb then retract to speed up to 110 knts to climb en route. Another glitch on the heading bug sometimes this blue bug indicator don't set correctly to the top of the HSI when pressing the Heading button on the AP panel. to correct that, press the D key before pressing with the mouse pointer the Heading rotating button on the AP panel. Iwas so happy to watch your new video about the C208 , I'm too talkative XD . Sorry for that. Enjoyed your video and the skin you use for your C208 is very very nice. thank you so much for letting us so happy. Have a nice week waiting your next video. Friendly Gerard
Hi Gerard, looks like you know more about this aircraft than me. Frankly speaking I haven't flown Cessna 208 too often and tried to gather some information before recording. Thanks for the informative comment.
As I´ve said before, I like your videos/tutorials. Your voice is nice and calm :-) Two little things in the takeoff part: I don't think that you take off with full flaps, only stage 1 in the 208. The other thing is I think you forgott the inertial separator. I'm sure you know what that is all about and you just forgott it. Thanks for your effort making these videos. I hope you don't think I am picky but considering the lights I think the first thing you turn on is the NAV-lights. Just to show grounpersonal that someone is in the aircraft "doing things" and then, just before enginestart, you turn the beacon on. Before starting to taxi, the taxilight and then at holdingpoint landinglight and strobes and taxilight off. Some wait until lineup. I guess it doesn't matter much. Sorry for the remarks! :-) Further in the video you pull back on the "mixture". Sorry, there is no such thing as "mixture" in a turboprop. It is a jetengine with a propeller attached. After a correct startup you always use full forward on the conditionlever, all the way until shutting engine down at parking or gate.
I do not mind corrections at all, in fact I do appreciate them. As you mentioned C208 can take-off without flaps or 15 degree flaps that was my mistake. Inertial separator should be on to prevent the debris from getting into the engine. all your comments are welcome and I don't think you're picky. It's important to do it right if we're simulating a flight and thanks for all the corrections.
Nice done!!! Great video and great explanation. Thank You.
You're welcome!
Enjoyed this one too. You inspired me to shoot a bunch of RNAV approaches to see how they work in this sim. I ran into a problem that seems to persist from the initial release: RNAV comes in several flavors (See AIM), so I tried one at a local airport near where I grew up (KDPA outside Chicago). I used the default Caravan as you did, departed from O'Hare (28R) and set up (via the World screen) an RNAV approach to 20R at KDPA. The flight plan went well until it was time to intercept the glide path. Nothing! It just kept trundling along at altitude. Tried many variations (entry altitude, airspeed, point at which I switch APR mode on) and watched your video again. Nada!
So, I moved to a short flight from my home drome (KHPN) in New York to Stewart International, Rwy 27. Worked like a charm - with a strangeness: I didn't manage my altitude as you did to arrive at the FAF at proper altitude. I thought it was going to shoot past this one also, but when it got to the FAF, the glidepath kicked in and we went on a wild (1200 fpm) ride down to catch the glide path. I rode it out and landed (not as well as you did!) with no problem. Several more tries worked also with altitude management and different entry altitudes.
Then I got curious: I flew from KHPN to KSWF but to the RNAV approach to Rwy 10. Flew right past! I'm continuing to check this out, but I've got a suspicion that the sim currently fakes the RNAV glide path by using the existing glide slope that the ILS provides. Rwy 27 also has an ILS/LOC approach while Rwy 10 does not. I was not tuned to the ILS. I remember one video (I think it was one of yours.) where the same thing happened: missing the capture of the glide path. I don't think I'm crazy; I'll keep looking.
(Nov 11 approx. update, no Working Title mods in place for the Caravan - there aren't any, dual monitor for G1000 repeater windows, Thrustmaster T16000, Dell G7 with GTX whatever)
I think you might be right about sim faking the GP, with RNAV it always has been a hit or miss, hopefully Asobo will fix all Autopilot issues, they said they are working on a patch and potential release is 02/2021. We'll see if anything improves in the meantime. also another potential failure reason is the quality of navigational data. that also needs improvements.
@@TheSimPilot Maybe it's more complicated than that. RNAV is a catchall can of worms. Witness this discussion of the current state of affairs with RNAV: www.ifr-magazine.com/technique/rnav-versus-rnp/. Maybe the RNP (Required Navigational Performance) of each airplane is different. This was the Caravan with a G1000. Not worth going into detail here, but the RNAV performance requirements may well play a part. Certainly, though, the GS and GP problem needs to be fixed. Hoping for the best in 2021.
Very nice job. Good airmanship.
Thanks 👍
Nice video! What are your settings for the tooltips? How do I minimize the appearance of them and also change them from a scroll function to a click function? For example let’s say for a heading knob not only is there a minimalist tool tip label but also instead of holding click and using the mouse wheel to turn the knob left to right I can just click and hold? Or single click.
Any help would be appreciated!
Go to the accessibility menu and change the UI type to legacy
Hi there,
thankyou for all of your tutorials so far especially this one.
I have one question for you, where did you get the livery for the C208?
Hi, thank you very much, all the liveries I'm using in my tutorials are through flightsim.to
Excellent tutorial! thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the amazing video!
Glad you liked it!
Watched all of them... Thank you..
You're very welcome!
Nice job.
Thank you! Cheers!
Is there a reason to whenever I try to do an ils approach (from a plight plan, SET IN MENU w/ low altitude IFR, direct approach, and setting myself to an ILS Rwy) when I get in FAF the gps just completely takes me away from the approach, is that because I have NAV equipped?
Also a problem I see is the flight plan isn’t what it showed in the menus in the menu where you set your flight plan it shows a simple direct route with a little half loop here and there to abide by the pattern needed to fly into the approach, when I get to that point in real time (I think around transition point) and I get on my approach line all of a sudden I look at my FPL on my G1000 and it starts putting me In like 20+nm holding patterns, is this realistic? I’m super confused and an at home learner with only 25 of flight time so a 15-20 min flight turns into a 40+ minute flight elongating it from as I see it very unnecessarily
Yet another good video,, cheers
Thanks 👍
Thank you for the great video. I may have missed that, but do you do anything with prop during the flight?
Hi, I'm still learning the turboprops and what I learned is during cruise you use the prop to set the RPM which is different for each aircraft. And use the mixture to lean the engine. Throttle is pretty much untouched.
@@TheSimPilot I see, ok, thank you
nice video Sim Pilot. Quick question.....how were you able to activate reverse thrust? Reverse thrust in the sim is idle for me on my throttle quadrant (Logitech Pro Throttle)
I have the Thrustmaster TCA Officer pack which does have a reverse thrust zone on the quadrant. For you you have to either bind reverse thrust to an axis or to a button to toggle it on or off.
the simple way to activate reverse thrust is to hit F1 and then hit F2 several times
Bind Reverse Thrust toggle to a button. Then hit that button and use your throttle to engage reverse thrust. More throttle is more reverse thrust. Toggle the button to turn off reverse thrust and revert the throttle to normal use.
I am so confused, the Xbox version cruise speed is about 140 KTS and I can barely get a good climbing rate at 100KTS, are they different kind of planes on PC and XBOX? Also on the standby instrument at 160 KTS the dial already turns amber colour. What’s the best FLC speed for climbing on the xbox version?
They shouldn't be different per platform. Not sure what is causing your problems but this aircraft should be able to climb at 150 - 170 kts without problems
I would like to see you do an ILS approach and a VOR approach with the auto pilot but not using RNAV.
Are you asking specifically with the Cessna 208? Shouldn't' be too hard to come up with one due to avionics being G1000.
@@TheSimPilot Not specifically but you can do it in the 208 or the Cessna 172, I just wanted to see how it is done using the G 1000. I also would like the “ROL” explained with the AP and FD functions. The other thing is I tried using the Cessna 208 and it starts out running on the runway I want to know how I can get to start on the ramp and do a full start and taxi like you did, thank you for your great work.
@@aviatortrucker6198 you need to select one of the ramps at the world map menu after selecting the airport. If you leave it at runway it will start the plane at the runway with engines running. O do have plenty of ILS approaches under the tutorials playlist with C172
Is there a good normal checklist in PDF form for this aircraft ?
Not that I know of, maybe on flightsim.to but not sure.
Would be great if some real world procedures were followed, I find MSFS rather arcade like, and that take off doesn’t persuade me otherwise, oh and NEVER land a Caravan at idle thrust.
Everybody has their own taste. I am just sharing my experience and not claiming to know all the details. Thanks for the feedback.
which has better physics, realism, andlots of planes? Xplane11 or Mfs2020?
Well x plane has a lot of 3rd party places that you can purchase. But I like FS2020 no other simulator world looks this good right now not too many aircraft options but it will get better in time in my opinion when 3rd party developers release their products.
how remove and disable pilot animation and co pilot please
I am not sure how. Never dealt with it before.
Unfortunately I was not able to see how you set the flight plan. So I cannot not stick to the tutorial :(
Sorry about that, there are more on the channel where I explained how to enter the flight plan. Especially recent ones with the updated G1000NXI mod. Here is a link to most recent one ua-cam.com/video/QNU2cZizocY/v-deo.html
Really Cool！Now learning from these videos
Awesome, thank you!
How to use the prop rpm? During landing and level flight?
Prop rpm needs to be %100 and mixture if there's one needs to be %100 also during takeoff and landing
@@TheSimPilot Okay, but when I throttle down, the engine doesnt response. Only when I put flaps down, it gives a response. Am I missing something?
@@OldCarsAreFun that's weird, throttle should response regardless of flaps. Could there be a potential controller binds conflict?
What navigraph subscription do you have?
They have just one option I believe, I have the navdata and the charts $9.99/month
@@TheSimPilot Thanks, will consider using it because it looks to be very useful.
@@panzervitiger3882 It is actually very useful to have charts and navdata from the same source. Also you can track your flight and overlay the charts to have a better visual understanding of what will happen at each stage.
@@TheSimPilot It seems very good. I loved your video on the CJ4 btw, very well done tutorial! Personally I use simbrief (free version) to plan my flights, how do I know which runway to take off from and to land at?
@@panzervitiger3882 If you're using Simbrief it should give you the Runway information. It's taking the weather into consideration and doing a good guess on active runways. I'll point to that in the next tutorial to give you a visual reference. Also planing on an updated CJ4 episode the mod has a lot of improvements that I want to share and there is also a simbrief integration too.
Are you a pilot?
No sir I'm not
what do you record with ?
I'm using streamlabs obs most of the time and nvidia shadowplay occasionally
@@TheSimPilot thanx for the reply, great content
Lucky you are not a real instructor…
What does that supposed to mean?
@@TheSimPilot I happened to bump in your video "by accident", I was not looking for it. Actually I was looking for something related to the Cessna 208, but not a Flightsim video. I'm an airline captain and presently fly A320 Family aircraft. What struck me is how wrong your flow, sequences, procedures, and statement were or wrongly interpreted in comparison to the real world. Hence the comment. For example: you need to explain how possibly a "mixture control handle" can find its place in a turboprop cockpit, plus many many others. Keep studying son.
@@pake6728 I respect all real life pilots. However. the videos I post are not for real life use. They get the job done in the simulator whether you like it or not. I'm still learning and there are people around who are nice enough to explain so that I can correct myself. I'm not as knowledgeable in turbo props as I'm in airliners. I would have liked a constructive criticism more than your sarcastic approach. And please do not call me "Son" next time.