All-American Comics #16 - Atop the Fourth Wall
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara takes a look at the origins of the first Green Lantern, Alan Scott!
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Originally uploaded November 21st, 2011.
ORIGINAL INFO: A story of talking rocks, magic green train lanterns, and the man who could only be stopped by a stick!
RUMINATIONS: So now that the Entity stuff was done with, I had to figure out what to do with Dr. Linksano. The character was a villain and I really didn’t have any more hijinks in mind for another humorous storyline, so he needed to have a reason to be around. It occurred to me that Dr. Insano served as a kind of technical and scientific advisor for Spoony, thus Dr. Linksano could be reformed and work for the good guys, especially since Linkara didn’t really have anybody on hand to do science stuff for him. He usually just did the science stuff himself, but sometimes you need your main character to have stuff exposited TO them.
And this introduces the cybermats into things! I’m obsessed with the little creatures, have been since I was a little kid watching Doctor Who. Always wanted a toy for them, too, and the bump-and-go one is OKAY (would have certainly made me happy as a kid), but it seems baffling to me that even though the EPISODE where the modern cybermat premieres features the Doctor using one with a remote control, there hasn’t been a remote control version of it. I’ve been trying to create a perfect one ever since then. The closest is one seen in more recent episode that was thanks to both Featherweight and an awesome fan who did robotics and remote control stuff. It’s still larger than I’d prefer it be, but it does a crap-ton of cool stuff, so I’m still grateful.
The Golden Age: "MAGIC RING!"
The Silver Age: "SCIENCE RING!"
"I'm green - I can fly - I'm Peter Pan!"
**spend rest of day laughing uproariously**
Let's not forget one of the other greatest of the green lanterns, Guy "got one punched by Batman" Gardner!!
A good retcon for Alan Scott would be that the Lantern he found was an ancient Power Battery and ring left behind a thousand years ago by a lost/or dead Lantern.
Avenger85438 I like how you’re pretending you thought of that
In the Bronze Age, that was the case, except the Lanťern had collided with the Starheart, a meteor in which the Guardians had infused all of the magical energy they could collect. That's why HIS ring was magical and not scientific.
That's sound like a good retcon and have Alan Scott got his ring from an ancient Power Battery and Green Lantern ring that were left behind long ago and use it to become a superhero.
Why the heck did DC ever think of it during the Post-Crisis or the New 52 reboot timelines? Or maybe do an imprint universe similar to Marvel's Ultimate Marvel imprint universe?
Just saying...
Wait a minute. He can walk through walls, disappear and fly? Which would make him more unique than the other guy... Are we reading Green Lantern's origin story or Danny Phantom's?
Also:
Alan Scott: "What do you, the people at home think?"
Me: "Considering the Police asked you to come downtown in the last gag, I think you might need a lawyer..."
Young Alan Scott was just 23
When he built a train bridge with his company
Designed to improve commute and industry
(Shining light on evil as the Green Latern)
When it blew up, his whole crew died
But somehow Alan Scott survived
There was a bright green flash, everything got strange
A voice came from the lantern of the train??
(Green Lantern)
When he first woke up he realized
It was up to him to fight bad guys
He could walk through walls, disappear and fly
(Much more unique than that Dekker guy)
It was then that he knew what he to do
Had to put a stop to guys in suits
He’s here to fight for me and YOU
@@AnthintendoMight I tweak it a bit?
“Shining light on Evil as the Green Lantern”
Fits the rhythm better, and goes with the story.
7:18 A comic that came out last year, as of the time I'm writing this, makes calling the unnamed man Alan's partner take on a whole new meaning.
It really does. It makes it all the more impactful, honestly.
I love how linkara defeats his enemies by deconstructing their motivations and getting them to realize the futility of their actions. Reminds me of Tom Strong.
+Garrett Knisley except for Mechakara, Dr. Insano, Lord Vyce, and the King of Worms. but then again, Mechakara is driven by pure hate, Dr. Insano is totally...well...insane, Vyce is WAAAAY too determined to be talked out of his goals that easily, and the King of Worms...well...is the King of Worms.
The King of Worms? When did Linkara fight Mannimarco?
Garrett Knisley so linkara is an anime charecter
or spider-man
Using the same kind of logic and reasoning that Linkara used on the Entity by deconstructing his plans for world domination is yet another reason I like AT4W. It's important to realize that not every encounter with a villain is going to be the same and that there is always the chance at redemption. It's a lesson I think storytellers in the modern age should take to heart.
Funny, thing about Linksano giving up on ruling the world is that eventually, he ended up becoming president of Billy Tor's world to help Linkara during the Contest of Champions, so ironically he did end up conquering a world!
Happy 80th anniversary, Alan Scott. Thanks for kickstarting this idea that has brought us 7 more amazing people to become Green Lanterns of Earth.
John Stewart"s my pesonal favorite Green Lantern. He's not only a cool space cop but also a Marine and all around Badass.
That whole “Death. Life. Power.” is an untapped mine. It could be a cool new reboot series.
Just think about it, a gigantic green meteorite crashes into the earth and it speaks those words to the locals, and then kills them, leaving only one alive, and giving him power, after carving the metal into a smaller object, a Lantern. Over the years, the metal is passed onto more and more people, leaving a trail of death, life, and power in its wake. Eventually, the now Chinese-Lantern shaped green metal, thought worthless, is given to a mental patient. The patient carves into a smaller-sized lantern, where it chants “Death. Life. Power.” It kills the mental patient, but gives every patient their sanity back, fulfilling Death and Life, but not power. Not yet. Then, the government catches wind of it, and sends it across the country, in a train, where it crashes, killing everyone on board. Then, it revives the closest man, Alan Scott, who then is gifted the Power, who then carved it into its final, smallest form, a ring.
It could be a great series, where Alan Scott is morally ambiguous. To continue using the power, he saves lives, but his enemies die, sometimes by Alan murdering them, by killing them in self defense, or even, sometimes in heart attacks.
...That seems unnecessary gritty. So perfect for a DC reboot
@@Milleniummeister alternatively, you could make "Death. Life. Power" an anthologic comic, with ocassionally, the lantern killng someone, resurrecting someone (or giving Life, in some ways, like giving sentince to an inanimated object, or "transforming someone to give them a second chance in life"), and then granting green lantern powers across the decades
@@ianr.navahuber2195
Hey, that’s a good anthology series idea. James Gunn might do something similar.
Not sure if "mediocre West" is a better burn for the Midwest, the Mountain States, or the West Coast. Either way I must incorporate it into my vocabulary.
My favorite Green Lantern was always John Stewart.
awesome.
Also my favorite Daily Show host.
Mine is Simon and Jessica
I'm definitely a Jordan fan (I mean, I love all of the Earth-based Green Lanterns, but Hal's my favorite), but I can totally see why people would love John Stewart above him (especially if you're in the generation that grew up on the Timmverse)
Same here. :) He's the Green Lantern I grew up with from the Justice League animated series and Justice League Unlimited
I like this version of the Green Lantern costume. But then again, I like some of these pulp-y comic heroes.
***** lol I don't mind. Always great to see love for Invincible.
The word “pulp” has negative connotations, they call it “Country Style” now.
After seeing this comic, I can see why they decided to make Alan Scott gay in the New 52. Alan Scott is one of my favorite Green Lanterns: the mystical nature of his powers,the vulnerability to wood, the fact that unlike most of his colleagues he's left handed, his status as Batman's predecessor as the protector of Gotham, the fact that both of the women he married are ex-super villains, and his kids are pretty cool too.
I have to call shenanigans on the phasing through the walls and roof when they theoretically have wooden beams. On the other hand I guess the train engineer can know about other dimensional physics when later on he's going to be a radio mogul. How many degrees do you have, Mr. Alan?
On the other hand, I like the fact that the Lantern says it's fuel is "willpower." It makes me wonder if this is what gave Geoff Johns the idea for Emotional Spectrum. Green is the color of Willpower.
So, does this mean that Dekker Mor'Kain would be the evilest man ever?
You could subvert it to have the chillest nicest person ever have that name.
And suddenly, "Decker, Decker, the home-wrecker" makes total sense.
Before anyone asks, there was a kid named Decker who lived on my home street when I was growing up. He was a real problem child, but he mellowed out considerably when he started high school. My mother hated him and made up this charming little chant to express that hate.
12:57 is one of my all-time favorite Linkara quotes.
I think the implication is that the lamp also has a passive aura of power, seeing as holding it spared Alan's life.
Hal Jordan is my favorite character. I love the story, the mythos, the costume, pretty much everything about that world. But Alan Scott still holds a special place in my heart. He just screams old fashion and as Coulson said in Avengers, maybe we need a little old fashion
Gotta agree. Hal's my favorite ringslinger, but *all* of the Earth Green Lanterns are awesome.
As he said in the video, they keep trying to make out that Hal Jordan is the greatest GL. But I felt that Kyle Rayner is the greatest of them all.
He was picked at random (Ganthet gave the ring to the first person he saw, which was Kyle) but yet rose among the ranks (I'm pretty sure he was a GL honour guard at one point), he was the last of the Green Lanterns and was chosen to defeat Hal/Parallax, he overcame great tragedy (The death of two girlfriends, Alex and Jade, and the death of his mother) and even became the host of freakin' Ion, the entity of willpower!
Although Alan is still a personal favourite superhero, I just like the classical pulp vibe/look :)
But Hal is still cool in his own way right?
@@ryanangelastro504I think so
It's kind of interesting to look on this and see all the little changes that have been made to Alan Scott and all the things this story may have inspired. For example, someone later decided to switch the ring to Scott's other hand and make him possibly DC's most famous left handed hero. Or the fact that he went from being an engineer to a broadcast mogul somehow (I don't see a lot of crossover in those two fields).
On the other hand, the Lantern claims it's fuel is "willpower," and it was revealed that in the emotional spectrum, Green is the color of Will. We also later got to see that "The Green" was the mystical force of plant life, and why wood was immune to the Lantern's powers. And am i the only one who looks at that picture of Alan Scott cradling his buddy's dead body and thinks to himself " THIS is why Alan Scott is gay in the New 52?" Honestly, I look at that image, and if I didn't know better, I'd swear it was part of the original plan.
so Alan Scott is connected (or should be) connected to the Emotional Spectrum, and the Green? he should be OP
That actually makes a bit of sense.
With that last part, the 80th anniversary anthology book for Green Lantern went with that interpretation, and it was great.
I think DC is trying to make Hal the iconic Green Lantern because he's one of the founding members of the original Justice League of America.
Yeah because they consider every founding member important and iconic, isn't that right Martian Manhunter?
I personally say that John Stewart is the best Green Lantern.
Tottaly agree. I honestly hate Hal Jordan, John Steward was just cooler and more mature as a character, at least in the Justice League cartoon.
I think the only human green lantern I don't like is Guy Gardener, but my personal favorite is Alan Scott
ShinbrigTV It is my favorite! ;D
Kyle Rayner is the best green lantern, Hal is the second best, John Stewart is the third, Guy Gardner, is the fourth and Alan Scott is the forth best
Architron Overlord no kyle and Stewart are at the bottom. Hal(because let's be honest, Kyle and Stewart have just as generic personality), then Alan as the second best(maybe my favourite though), and then Gardner at third
10:45- I don't know but that was back when using mummies as medicine and paint was a good idea.
“Queer light”
Alan Scott has been canonically gay for the last few years :)
This is one of my favorite plot-segment episodes. I love how Linkara talks Dr. Linksano into his service
I can think of a few people who need to hear Linkara's argument for why not to try to rule the world.
In 6th grade i had a kid called Cane bully me. I guess Cane is a name reserved for evil people.
+Maxwell James you do got a point there
you're right
Kane (wrestler who is the Devil's Favourite Demon)
Cain (drug dealer and killer robot from RoboCop 2)
@@alfa01spotivo
Hell, in some versions of DC, Vandal Savage is the Biblical Cain. And he started out as an enemy of Alan Scott's!
Ah, Linksano's reformation, one of my favourite concepts from the Post-Entity Storylines. It's a shame that we don't see him very often, whether it be because of him being took out due to story-line stuff or because he's busy doing SCIENCE! stuff. It would be nice to see Linksano get his own mini-story, kinda like the Harvey storyline, only with a humourous tone rather than the more serious tone of Harvey's storyline, but I doubt that we'll get that any time soon.
I'm afraid that I'm not a big fan of that idea. Linksano is a good supporting character and is the main source of the non-enchanted technology that they use. If anything, I'd say just bring back Insano every once in a while. Noah and Lewis are still good friends as far as I am aware, so if they could schedule it in advance the encounters could be done with relative ease.
Another idea I've had though is that this Contest of Champions arc could be used to flesh out the Rogues Gallery a bit. Think about it, Lewis has already said that all of next year is going to be a big celebration of AtopTheFourthWall's tenth anniversary by almost exclusively reviewing comics associated with past reviews, and in the past few years his Rogues have been took out one by one; Linksano's reformed, The King of Worms is dead and dissected, Mechakara is torn apart on one of Saturn's moons, and both Vyce and The Entity were bested again in the last arc, with only Insano remaining.
Basically, I think that 2019 is going to be a fresh start, with Linkara making several enemies via defeating and sparing them in battle during the Contest who will return around that point, as well as the followers of Vyce that have been offhandedly mentioned once or twice (admittedly I did not think of the followers myself, but the idea makes sense and fits with the idea of building up the Rogues). Hell, maybe he'll combine both and have a follower of Vyce be in the Contest. It makes sense and could lead to some interesting stories about how inspirational Vyce was in the hearts and minds of his subjects in his conquered worlds.
It's all speculation of course, but I really hope that the direction Lewis takes with the Contest is at least somewhat similar to this. The timing, the fact that most of his rogues are reformed or dead, the fact that a contest allows for a ton of new characters to pop up, everything aligns perfectly.
I do love the hypothetical police questioning of Scott in this video. He's going down for sure.
I've only read two series featuring Alan Scott (the "JSA: Thy Kingdom Come" and the New 52 "Earth 2" series) and I like him way more as Green Lantern than Hal Jordan despite reading several times more stories featuring him (e.g "DC: The New Frontier" which I recently read) however I like John Stewart more after growing up with him as Green Lantern in "Justice League"/"Justice League Unlimited"
Btw kudos to Linkara for using the "Justice League" theme in these Secret Origins videos, very nostalgic for me :)
Let's not forget that John Stewart is the favorite hero of one of MANY peoples favorite heroes: Static! I remember that, as a dumb kid, The crossover when Static met John was when I realized that Static was in the DC universe since I wasn't a comic reader at that point (or if I was I only had limited access)
This is such a great golden age comic. Thank you Linkara :) I never knew much about Alan outside of his current day orientation.
I’m picking this up for sure.
This is my favorite episode of AT4W
"Lawsuit here I come" wait, are there any heroes in The DC universe that are lawyers?
Late, I know, but oddly enough no. Only she hulk has ever been a lawyer/
@@Savagewolver Daredevil is a lawyer too. both characters are Marvel though, don't know if their is any DC Lawyer Superhéroes.
1:12 I think it was due to at the time recent exposure Hal at that point had his own movie and he was the main character in the animated series so by the time the New 52 came around all non-comics fans were most familiar with Hal Jordan (honestly the fact that Kyle survived the transition is astonishing)
17:33: why do I expect Alan to suddenly do this.
Alan Scott: In Brightest Day...In Blackest Night...No Evil Shall Escape My Sight. Let those who worship Evils might...Beware my power...GREEN LANTERN'S LIGHT!!!!
snakes3425
I don’t think the writers thought of that motto yet.
@@daelen.cclark
Probably. That being said, has Alan ever used the Green Lantern Oath?
I find myself liking john Stewart more as the green lantern. He was one the coolest characters on the justice league animated series
Lane Litton They chose him because he was so obscure at the time. Not anymore. XD
I, too, don't really see Hal as the "Most Iconic GL." I mean, I was introduced to the concept through John Stewart on the Justice League cartoon.
This will probably sound strange, but there is something incredibly satisfying about the bit of animation where Wonder Woman puts on her boot.
Absolute favorite quote from this video, "I'm gonna murder that son of a bitch with my demonic powers from space."
"We're not talking about the space cop."
Dammit, Linkara, how could you not review a movie starring Rich Evans?!
Watching this in a new light having read the new "Alan Scott: Green Lantern" limited comic. If anybody was intrigued by this i highly recommend it, the tones are completely different but both are fantastic. Also Alan Scott and Jimmy being partners in the "DC Pride" was really sweet
Best part about the "queer light" line? In the New 52, Alan Scott was made gay.
Puts his weakness for wood in a whole new light.
The first Green Lantern I ever heard of was John Stewart. I watched the Justice League cartoon a lot.
Same here!
Interesting that in the New 52 Earth 2 comics although they changed Alan Scott's sexuality, his origin still revolved around surviving a train crash thanks to the power of the Green Lantern.
Stan Lee's take on Green Lantern makes a lot more sense after looking into this now
I genuinely think that a film adaptation of Alan Scott's Green Lantern would potentially be really good. Keep the period setting, give it a stylised, western visual aesthetic (which would be a breath of fresh air for a superhero film) and expand on the character of Scott and his beginnings as the Green Lantern.
Still a bit sad he didn't make a call back to this when he did the Samurai HOPR with Deker
15:58 Ok, that's pretty funny. The look on Alan's face makes it clear he's gonna enjoy this.
My first Green Lantern I assume was John Stuart because of the justice League. I became more affiliated with Hal Jordan later on. I didn't find out about Kyle Reiner until around 8 months ago through you Linkara. I knew about Guy Gardner and others a few years before because of Batman the brave and the bold. I knew about the Green Lanterns being like the army because of Justice League.
You should check Geoff Jonhs run on the Green Lantern comics. its awesome.
Actually come to think of it: I wonder if they used the Red Lanterns to reference the green/red lantern.
XSiRenfieldX
Perhaps.
Wouldn't surprise me.
Well... that was an easy hiring, Link. Gonna need to use that next time...
He tried. It didn't work.
6:12 What about Deckard Cain? He's not evil as far as I know. Stay a while, and listen!
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He said putting in a c instead of two ks is ok.
Why do you think he's always trying to tell you his stories. To stop you saving the world, that's why!
I now know all about the green lanterns and their stories.
I really hope Linkara makes a Secret Origins month playlist
PrimusVsUnicron
He did, check his main channel.
Ah, he has The Power, but does he have The Touch?
A small little detail, but you know how Linkara does the storyline soon about him possibly turning evil? Well, if you notice, during the deal he was making with Linksano, he was holding and stroking the cybermat like a stereotypical villain would hold and stroke a cat.
Thing is, I'd like to see an expansion of the Alan Scott mythos for the Green Lantern, especially regarding the Chinese _wuxing_ elements. It'd be cool to see a version of the Lantern Corps that are based around each of the five phases.
Yea people often mooks Scotts weakness to wood due to it not making snence. But it perfect sense knowing his origin and how in Wuxing Wood and Metal are in antagonism to each other.
That or fire wich destroys metal but has no power over wood. Being fueled by it instead.
this storyline bit here has inspired me greatly to work on my own comic script with a similar moment in it.
thank you for the inspiration, linkara!
Everyone here likes their John Stewarts, Guy Gardeners, Alan Scotts, and Hal Jordans. But I’m over here with my favorite Kyle Rayner.
So if the golden age green lantern is weak against wood and the modern green lantern is weak to the color yellow, would I be able to defeat them both with a #2 pencil?
My god, that would be a battle for the ages! XD
@@johnnygyro2295 Right!?
linkara the man who convenced a god of another dimension of kill him self and which also convinced an evil scientist to work at his side wow linkara is virtually every captain of the star fleet in one man is actually very awesome this side of linkara in the story line parts of the videos
I love the post-Golden Age version of the Green Lantern mythos and its my favourite DC series(i'm a sucker for space characters), but Alan Scott deserves respect and the treatement as an iconic character, especially now since the New 52 messed him up badly.
With rebirth they will be bringing him and the rest of the JSA into the main earth, hopefully he'll have his kids again
Captain Cynical I doubt it. Rebirth was a mess.
I have to say that Kyle Rayner is my favourite Green Lantern but Hal Jordan is still awesome.
Oh so the names Decker and Cain are evil eh? I think Decker Cain from Diablo who DIED FOR US would disagree!!!
Dekker. He said putting in a c is ok. I think the same goes for Cain.
Errrrr Cain (from the Bible) is the reason any name that sounds like that is a villain name.
As would Carter Kane and his sister Sadie.
It's also Deckard Cain
@@ninakrishnamurthy6674 a negative plus a negative equals a positive, clearly the evil name and the power of ANCIENT EGYPT!!! balance each other out
Its Funny Hearing Alan call something Queer
Shashank 235 HA!
think the guardians know about alan scott? also 11:56 foreshadowing for your wondering arc?
In the new 52 series "Earth 2" when they remake Alan Scott they still kept the train origin but changed it to Alan trying to propose to his bf in the train and the green lantern coming after the wreckage (for some reason) I didn't think that was a bad origin
The most well known for me is John Stewart because of Justice League.
Every time you use a clip from Camelot it makes me want to see it. I feel I'm doing myself an injustice having never watched it.
The English language making thins unintentionally funny for 100 years.
Fun Fact: Alan Scott's friend Jimmy was his gay lover in the current continuity of comics
Kyle is the best Green Lantern. Hal becomes Parellax and kill all the other Green lanterns. Kyle becomes Ion and eventually relinquishes all that power to bring back the lanterns.
Steve Diament how about Stewart?
I think that the lantern really did only flame thrice but it still had passive effects on the lives of those who possessed it fortunate to the good misfortune to the bad
linkara forgot to mentioned Aladdin... Alan... Aladdin had two genies. one on a ring and another on a lantern. I guess that might fall under Chinese myths but whatever.
Yeah that was bugging me too. In the original Aladdin from The 10001 Nights, the story is set in China. So China + Magic Lamp/Lantern + Magic Ring points to a pretty clear Aladdin connection to me.
I love how Linkara both understands the original meaning or queer but still doenst make it a joke because of its modern context
Kinda disappointed the ruminations don't have more stuff on the comic itself.
wood is the Alan Scotts weakness, i still say that the color yellow is honestly worse, and to quote batman brave and the bold
Guy Gardner: so what happens if someone comes at you with a pointy stick?
Alan Scott: same thing that happens to you if he paints it Yellow!
(feel free to go OHHHH BURN!!!!!)
Actually I was thinking of a young John Cleese shouting "Shut up!!"
16:24-17:04
One of the shows best and funniest moments
Ten years of reviewing the first appearance of the first green lantern
It's nice to see the origin of an iconic piece of fantastic technology. I refer of course to cybermats.
Linkara: The destroyer of a villain's way of life.
Those Cybermats are huggable.
Oh I don't know, Fred Dekker, writer of The Monster Squad, isn't evil.
6:41 or they become guys who really really REALLY like their sword and sword fighting red colored heroes in spandex. That's another outcome.
My favorite Green Lantern is Guy Gardner.
How many people are lining up to lynch me for saying that?
Magnus Prime about almost every other fan except me.
Hey, I like him too. I like asshole characters as long as they're both over-the-top and show bouts of humanity. As long as they have that, then I find them funny. It's why I hate Season 1 Bakugo, but I find post-Season 1 Bakugo absolutely hilarious.
I always found Kyle more iconic as Green Lantern.
The cover was drawn by SHELDON "Selly" MOLDOFF! Batman's Co-Creator handling the writing and another Bob Kane Studio alumnus drawing the cover....I guess the editors wanted to make sure The Green Lantern was a hit!
Linkara is the onl hero, that will simply convince you what you are doing as a villian is stupid. And then pets your robot.
Alan Scott is now retroactively the DC Universe's first gay superhero. Bit of new trivia there for you.
Also, yeah. Hal Jordan sucks. John Stewart for life.
I always thought John Stewart was the most iconic green lanturn.
23:41 AND NEW PARTNERSHIP WAS FORMED"
N I C E D O U G H
Was the ancient Chinese lamp maker, Chang really evil, or does he want to use the green meteorite's power to help his people?
I wonder which Alan Scott is better the original or the modern? Either way there both really good
Yeah, but if your last name is Kane, better start a newspaper company.
You're wrong , Lewis. G'nort is the best Green Lantern.
my first lantern was john stewart