Fighter Pilot (F-15C) Vs Airline Pilot (MiG-29A) - DCS Death Match

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  • Опубліковано 22 лис 2024

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  • @pd28cat
    @pd28cat Місяць тому +36

    • @tommyiseppi6276
      @tommyiseppi6276 Місяць тому

      Why force feedback stick improve performance?

    • @pd28cat
      @pd28cat Місяць тому +6

      @@tommyiseppi6276 Makes your biceps bigger

    • @tommyiseppi6276
      @tommyiseppi6276 Місяць тому

      @@pd28cat ah yes right

  • @Overkill06
    @Overkill06 Місяць тому +10

    You gotta remember for the fighter pilot, this is just another day. For the airline pilot it's like,...... YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!

  • @swedishbones8937
    @swedishbones8937 Місяць тому +26

    Don't mess with an airline pilot! 😊

  • @ilovewater2.026
    @ilovewater2.026 Місяць тому +7

    Great video as always! Love the tacview breakdown at the end. Keep up the good work man!

  • @adamwright9741
    @adamwright9741 21 день тому +1

    May I suggest that if you are going to have those two screens on one side, that you move the main display over a little bit so that we can enjoy the middle of what you're doing and not just only mainly seeing one side.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  21 день тому

      That won’t really work. If I do that then you’ll get massive black patch s at the top and bottom as the main picture would have to shrink. Otherwise I’d have to cut the right side off. It’s a compromise but at least this way you always see where the bandit is and I don’t see an issue with covering some part of the left screen.

  • @omerkurt9406
    @omerkurt9406 Місяць тому +14

    I hope they make cheaper force feedback sticks soon

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому +2

      I’m sure it’s a matter of time 🙂

    • @Newbie101-iq6yq
      @Newbie101-iq6yq Місяць тому

      Thrustmastet t flight hotas

  • @airsongfly
    @airsongfly Місяць тому +1

    Great video ! I’ve been flying B737 too and enjoying DCS, BMS :)

  • @S0n1cB00m4
    @S0n1cB00m4 Місяць тому +6

    When the civilian airliner fights back

  • @viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476
    @viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476 Місяць тому +6

    I’m gonna guess he either flies a typhoon or a gripen

    • @StefBelgium
      @StefBelgium Місяць тому

      Without knowing who he is, I don t see the point of hiding the plane he s flying.

    • @spider_corsa
      @spider_corsa Місяць тому +1

      @@StefBelgium I think, too much time in a not certified simulator could poison the habits of a real fighter pilot who depends on their muscle memories in a fast reaction time environment like a fighter jet, I don't surprise if its kinda forbidden for them.

    • @viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476
      @viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476 Місяць тому +2

      @@spider_corsa it’s more forbidden for the fact that they can get in trouble for revealing certain tactics or info of like missile ranges and stuff by accident

  • @Bullet4MyEnemy
    @Bullet4MyEnemy Місяць тому +4

    I suspect he was gambling that you’d miss the shot, allowing him to carry the separation he created into the vertical again - having just bled your speed through a combination of you climbing to meet him and pulling for the shot - allowing him to then effectively energy trap you.
    But without extending first the energy discrepancy wouldn’t have been there to make it work.
    Would be interesting to see how different it would’ve been if you’d missed.
    …Couldn’t you just ask him though? He stopped manoeuvring in relation to you which is generally only done when losing visual or intentionally separating to reset the fight or regain energy, but I don’t think he lost vis because from the TacView there would’ve been constant line of sight from the cockpit.
    I do also think that force feedback is giving you an edge that is hard to translate on screen, which might’ve accounted for him having a harder time reading the energy - not because he can’t see it but because he can’t “feel” it like you can so might be making assumptions based on his own lack of sensation.
    TrackIR Vs. 1:1 tracking from reality or a VR headset can also skew your perception of angles at times as well due to difference in FOV, it’s possible a cross over shot like the one you made would be much more difficult if made without head tracking; if his FOV was wide during that time, because he was zoomed out further, he might not have recognised the risk.
    There are too many variables in the control set ups alone before you even get to the actual geometry of the fight lol.
    Just ask him! 😂

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому +1

      Yeah tbh I also don’t think he lost sight. He certainly didn’t mention that. I think it was just a BFM error. Exactly why it happened doesn’t really matter at this point. Regarding FFB - maybe partly true though! And I have also noticed I was better in VR than in 2D back when I had VR! I think my friend is getting a VR headset at some point in the not too distant future so it’ll be interesting to see the difference in performance.

  • @keithbriscoe99
    @keithbriscoe99 Місяць тому +3

    Generally f15 is a bfm monster in DCs, in my experience

  • @easy4life23.
    @easy4life23. Місяць тому +4

    Vast majority of airline pilots are retired airforce so he is most likely also a airforce pilot

  • @knightonwarbeck1969
    @knightonwarbeck1969 Місяць тому +6

    Your Eurofighter driving friend was feeling good about himself at 6:55... too good. Decided to "come off his meds" and terribly attempt to say hello.
    1. He has good energy management keeping himself well away from you biding his time until you made a mistake; it never came.
    2. His goal was to run you out of gas? "Promotion Through Attrition". Promoted to "Legendary Hero" during 5:00 pm Friday Beer Call at The Mess. A kill is a kill. High hopes indeed.
    3. Watched an F-15 training documentary years ago, class instructor said if you keep the Eagle at 450 knots, you will defeat the MIG-29. It appears he was/is right. Mr. Typhoon just so happened to watch this documentary?
    4. F-16 vs MIG-29 reports are similar. The Viper will "push" the Fulcrum all over the sky until *doom on you* time. Seems the Eagle can do the same (>450 kts).
    Really enjoy these 1 v 1 videos. Thanks kindly.
    The EJ200 is a low-bypass engine, something like .3 or .4... essentially a leaky turbojet. Should give the Eurofighter excellent high altitude performance. Ditto for the F-22's F-119s; .4. Watched an interview of a Raptor pilot. He was Mach 2 at 60,000ft, 5-10 degrees nose up and accelerating. I suspect similar performance for the Eurofighter. Ask your Eurofighter friend if he could catch my late, F-104 driving father, up at 70,000ft and Mach 2+.

    • @KingMen1Force
      @KingMen1Force Місяць тому

      Hm, looking at your 3rd point, I dunno how accurate that is. From the E-M charts I've seen the Fulcrum at 430 knots rates better than the Eagle at 450 knots. But judging how the Eagle was keeping better speeds throughout the vertical fight maybe that instructor meant it in a vertical fight?
      Either way in that situation what mostly matters is pilot skill, since you will be able to force the fight you want to fight easier if you're more skilled than the opponent.

    • @knightonwarbeck1969
      @knightonwarbeck1969 Місяць тому

      @@KingMen1Force The F15 instructor was limited in what he said/could say on camera. Sadly, all I got was "... if you keep it at 450 knots you will WAX the MIG-29." Yeah, very vague. Perhaps he meant DO NOT GET SLOW??? Could the E-M charts available to the public are not accurate, the real E-M charts are classified? Give the "enemy" false information so when the time comes for the merge, the J or SU or MIG pilot has already lost?

  • @obic123
    @obic123 Місяць тому +1

    You need to use off offbore or hz scan and lock to get the dif symbology

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому +1

      Vertical scan always worked perfectly so I’ve no idea what happened this time.

  • @MrGeneralPB
    @MrGeneralPB Місяць тому +1

    well, he could have lost track of you or as you said, wanted to try something new

  • @STARKILLER15100
    @STARKILLER15100 День тому

    what game is this? ima have to invest in this it looks fun ASF and since i started playing war thunder planes i wanna get a more in depth understanding of aerial combat

  • @ug636
    @ug636 Місяць тому +2

    Typhoon VS

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому

      Maybe once I t comes to DCS!

  • @Hurricane-013
    @Hurricane-013 Місяць тому +2

    Привет, найс видео, а почему до этого российскую раскраску не использовал?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому

      👍 Пока идёт война, все раскраски с ВВС/ВКС использовать в видео не буду.

    • @roman335i
      @roman335i Місяць тому

      ​@@CommandTой бля 😂😂

  • @tmting4942
    @tmting4942 Місяць тому +1

    let it be the mighty SMT

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому +2

      The SMT will be worse in a dogfight. Same engines, draggier airframe and heavier

  • @robertkalinic335
    @robertkalinic335 24 дні тому

    You could have him locked with helmet sight entire time...

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  22 дні тому

      And how would that benefit me? There’s no missiles here

  • @mash_35-E
    @mash_35-E Місяць тому +1

    Wait I dont understand hes gonna fly an modernised flanker for the nato??

    • @zloychechen5150
      @zloychechen5150 Місяць тому

      he says his jet can beat a thrust-vectoring flanker.

    • @lint3506
      @lint3506 Місяць тому

      The NATO pilot flies a "powerful 4th generation fighter better than any thrust-vectoring flanker in a doghfight" so... most likely the eurofighter typhoon

    • @mash_35-E
      @mash_35-E Місяць тому

      @@lint3506 Oh thanks, I understood AN tvc flanker, not better THEN. But how exactly is the typhoon better? Like extreme aoa (which the flanker should be superior in thanks to the tvc) plus high of boresight fox-2s is as dangerous as it gets or not?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому +1

      With fox 2s I don’t think any non-thrust vectoring jet will beat a flanker with TVC.

  • @enyakk
    @enyakk Місяць тому +1

    Why no ACM?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому

      What do you mean? Do you mean missiles?

    • @zloychechen5150
      @zloychechen5150 Місяць тому

      if you do mean missiles, it's as to not reveal tactics, which is classified. Obviously, noone knows for sure, for instance, the energy characteristics of their adversary's missiles, but fighter pilots have _some_ data on that. So their actions in DCS might indicate that pilot's airforce's knowledge on the missiles. And the airforce doesn't want their enemy to know what they know. I think GS did a fight with a French fighter dude, and that dude spoke about it somewhere, he has his own channel.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому

      I think this is mostly to do with BVR, Fox3. Not close combat with Fox2s.

  • @KyriakosDeTravlo
    @KyriakosDeTravlo Місяць тому

    Out of curiosity, why dont you fly the f16 in dcs ?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому +2

      Mostly because my own home simulator set up does not cater for a side-stick. And I find it immersion-breaking using a centre stick to fly a jet that uses a side-stick. That’s basically why. Nothing against the F-16 at all. Maybe one day I will add a side-stick to my sim pit

    • @KyriakosDeTravlo
      @KyriakosDeTravlo Місяць тому

      @@CommandT makes sense

  • @theeraphatsunthornwit6266
    @theeraphatsunthornwit6266 Місяць тому

    All lost to some call of duty pilot😂

  • @RedStarDCS
    @RedStarDCS Місяць тому +1

    Did u see „soon „ FF mig-29😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅hopefully 2025

  • @jettblack9696
    @jettblack9696 Місяць тому

    f-22

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому

      Well I did say he flies a powerful 4th gen fighter so that would by definition exclude the F-22 😉

  • @shapulke-debile
    @shapulke-debile Місяць тому

    f18 pilot

  • @jacobbaumgardner3406
    @jacobbaumgardner3406 Місяць тому +2

    Well now that’s got me thinking. Aircraft that could beat a TV Flanker isn’t long.
    F-22 for the Americans, but something tells me he’s not American.
    In Europe, there’s the Hornet (but a Hornet pilot would really have to work for that kill, and it would be an uphill battle).
    The Eurofighter could handily beat a Flanker, but it’s not optimized for wrestling to the deck. It’s a kick boxer, high and fast. (Edit: someone said somewhere that he’s a Eurofighter pilot, but I don’t actually know the truth, will continue to speculate).
    That leaves the Rafale, which aside the from the Raptor is the one fighter that I think of that crushes the one circle.
    I don’t expect a reaction. I want your friend’s privacy respected, as do we all. I’m just thinking out loud here.

    • @DanielAtHome1
      @DanielAtHome1 Місяць тому

      defo eurofighter

    • @-Hari-03
      @-Hari-03 Місяць тому

      defo rafale. rafale dominates at low speeds, better than the EUF

    • @DanielAtHome1
      @DanielAtHome1 Місяць тому

      @@-Hari-03 so ur saying hes 100% french? how many other countries fly the euf there is way more possibility.

    • @roman335i
      @roman335i Місяць тому

      Hes opponent is a NATO clown pilot who will never fly against Flanker with TV but hey, whi cares 😂

    • @jacobbaumgardner3406
      @jacobbaumgardner3406 Місяць тому

      @@roman335i he said the plane he flies could best a Flanker. He left his own individual skills out of it, not that it matters since NATO skills are way higher than Russians.

  • @krylatich
    @krylatich Місяць тому +1

    29 is the worst 4gen fighter in a bfm scenario in dcs if the fuel loads are consistent with equal max afterburner time for both aircraft

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Місяць тому +4

      Not sure I agree on that at all.

    • @RedTail1-1
      @RedTail1-1 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@CommandTme either. Not sure where he got that idea.

    • @СергейНикольский-я2ц
      @СергейНикольский-я2ц Місяць тому +1

      ⁠​⁠@@RedTail1-1probably in WT cause in that game 29 actually is one of the worst 4th gen’s in BFM/WVR (can compete only with heavy asf 16D Barak II and with the Su-27S(arguably, imo it can’t but some say it can))