Why the Gungan Grand Army Was So Unorthodox [Why Did they Use Tactics Like this??]
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:49 The Gungans
3:10 War of the Gungan Tribes
4:22 Gungan Grand Army
8:06 Peace and War
9:45 Outro - Фільми й анімація
As we can see in The Clone Wars show, the gungans are actually pretty competent warriors when not being led by an idiot.
The Gungans were playing decoy to lure the majority of the Trade Federation's army out of Theed so the strike team could capture Gunray and take out the control ship. It was a necessary sacrifice.
@@AFlyingEwok true, but if you look at the battle itself, they could have used much better tactics. Mainly, they could have taken up positions on the high ground since they arrived first. By fighting the droids on the flat plains they were easy targets once the droids got through their shields.They also could have used more unit maneuvers like ancient armies where the unit moved as a whole instead of each soldier doing their own thing.
I never doubted them, the least of reasons being I never based Gungans on Jar Jar.
the Living Star Wars (the D20 RPG open campaign) had a Gungan security chief who didn't have that method of speaking, and only had the slightest accent in Basic--and was entirely competent in all ways.
The Gungan Army had their moment to shine by participating in the underwater campaign of Mon Calamari alongside the Clone Troopers.
An underrated moment
And shine they did
True, but they only got to shine for like five minutes before they were routed and captured. I guess that goes to show how great a leader Riff Tampson was and how effective the combined armies of the Droids and Quaren were, since the Republic had Jjedi leading three different armies, Clones, Mon Cala, and Gungan, and they still couldn't win until the Quaren defected.
Bruh, they didn't have guns; the casualties 😂.
I was about to bring this up. The mon cala arc in clone wars was pretty good and I liked the role the gungans played
Fun Fact about the Gungan Grand Army: It was the only military force in the galaxy capable of capturing General Grievous.
We'se arrrheee taleeehhnted tactiiitiieeaahhns
As someone who doesn't hate Jar Jar or the Gungans as a whole, I always liked the sheer ingenuity they showed during battle. Don't let their funny way of talking fool you, this amphibians are true warriors.
Indeed, they are formidable in combat and their weapons are ingenius and deadly
I am still certain Boss Nass sent Jar Jar into battle hoping he would get killed.
They won't die without a fight.
Right, I always thought there was a method to his 'madness'
I find people's extreme reaction to Jar Jar humourous. That it lead to a gungan-in-carbonite Easter Egg in The Force Unleashed is pretty funny.
I loved that George Lucas included Naboo and other planets for the special edition of Return of the Jedi. It was a beautiful way to re-establish Episode VI as the end of a great Saga
"end of a great Saga"
Before the dark time...before disney...
@@theguybehindyou4762 shhh, why don't we just don't talk about that
"What about the Droid attack on the Wookies?"
He's right, the grand army of the Wookies deserves their own video, especially since we were denied seeing part of their culture in that unfinished Clone Wars episode where the Bad Batch went to their planet.
I really loved seeing the Gungan army using personal energy shields against blaster fire when the movie came out
"Now THIS is dodgeball!"
I've always been disappointed no-one in the wider galaxy ever adopted gungan shields in combo with blasters or even a lightsaber. Feel they're really missing a trick, especially when their are instances where heavy metal blast shields are used by the 501st
@@simontaylor2143 That's what happens when the writer makes things up as he goes.
@@simontaylor2143the shields the commando droids used at the citadel were cool and kinda similar
I like when the gungans start throwing the plasma balls at the Droid army
You forgot to mention that the Gungans also had an air force of sorts. Some Gungan warriors flew on the backs of Aiwha, where they would be used for reconnaissance or ridden into battle where they would launch boombas from slings or by dropping larger payloads of them like bombs on the backs of their Aiwhas. Aiwhas are also the same creatures found on Kamino, which the Kaminoans also use as transportation on their aquatic planet. Even more bizarrely was how they used floating whales for aerial transportation and as heavy assault ships. The developers for the Galactic Battlegrounds games must have really had some fun when coming up with some interesting ways to put the Gungans on equal footing militarily as the other civilizations.
Fuggit, color em blue and stick em on Pandora.
When i was a kid Jar Jar was actually my favourite character in the movie. I even had a plush doll of him. I always liked the gungans, i don't really understand the hate for them. I appreciated this video giving them the credit they deserve
I also liked him back then...when I was 9.
Rewatching the film now, I can see why his character was so grating for many.
The gungan army is my favorite army in Star Wars
Gungan technology always caught my interest ever since the battle in The Phantom Menace
Agreed, that was where the designers shined.
I totally agree
*Fun fact:* Naboo was not attacked during the Yuuzhan Vong invasions. The extra-galactic warriors have no idea about what they avoided by not facing the Gungan. 😅
I wonder if they would have truly hated the Gungans compared to the rest of the galaxy seeing that they weren´t as technology dependent but still great warriors
I wonder how that would have looked like. Sure, the Vong would have had superiority in space, but maybe on ground (not to mention in water) the Gungans would have shown great resistance.
Maybe they do know what they avoided and maybe there's a reason they didn't invade Naboo.
5:30 The technology they used was organic and plasma based.
I believe their original motive to invade was the disgust with their dependence on inorganic technology by the wider galaxy
Good motive to Not invade gungans also
@@riildiilcomments891 didn't the Yuuzhan Vong use terraforming technology as part of their invasion strategy? I kinda feel like they would have made great use of the organic weapons cultivated by the Gungans
I mean.. let’s be real.. people might talk shit about Jar Jar.. but the fact that this Gungan is the only one of his kind to even be able to fight alongside the likes of Mace Windu is pretty awesome.
On the subject of Jar Jar, making him a secret dark-sider would make much of his antics more understandable and less of a writer's brain fart.
Curiously, the Gungan were discovered by the Republic the same year that Darth Nihilus's devastating Sith wars took place. Without a doubt the worst year in history to be alive 😅
Especially for a jedi.
"Great, first Darth Nihilus, and now friggin gungans!"
The physiology of a Gungan's head makes me ponder what a Mando/Gungan helmet would look like.
I'd criticize Lucas for their baffling design choices, but then I remember the space muppets and ewoks in RotJ (shudder).
Jar Jar is less hated now. We do not speak of whom is now more hated here
you mean Jar Jar Abrams as the now more hated, right?
@@kenbrown2808Rey palpatine xd
Jar Jar used to be hated, but when I compare him to what we got since then, I can say that people now love him.
“Ouch time”
-Roos Tarpals
I recall there is a gungan miny Boss in the ps2 version of the force unleashed. While I think that the two droids where the main problem he was still a pain to deal with. If we saw more of that it would have changed how we saw them.
I think I see some room for a book portraying one of those gungan-naboo wars w/o picking sides.
6:30 I find it weird why the Gungans don't seem to acquire blasters especially when they made peace with the people of Naboo as close friends and also keep up with the current trend of armies using blasters.
Likely because blasters don't mesh well with Gungan design philosophy and traditional combat training/tactics. They are warriors who take too much pride in their history and self-sufficiency to adopt blasters on a large scale. Especially since they would have to import the blasters or industrialize in areas beyond plasma technology which would be unacceptable to most Gungans.
Do blaster work underwater?
I always liked the Gungans. Jar Jar was funny (back then I was a kid and did'nt know any better), but when learning more about his species I find them to be one of the most resiliant and brave people in Star Wars.
Erase Jar Jar and remove Boss Nass' weird angry-gagging, and the gungans become legitimately interesting.
"These Gungan tribes fought each other as much as they fought their enemies."
Sith: these guys get us!
I feel like fans are much nicer to Jar Jar these days. Or maybe they're just afraid of him being a Sith Lord, now that the truth is out. Gungans are awesome overall, and a full alien army on display in ep1.
I love too with their capture of General Grievous, they knew that in order to restrain him, a few would have to get close to immobilize him and would die for it and still did it anyway. Tarpals getting stabbed and still having the strength to throw some wisdom at Grievous and then stabbing him as well.
In the pre-Disney age, they did get out to the wider galaxy after the Phantom Menace. Many gungans were merchants, salesmen, auctioneers, bodyguards, and even Bounty Hunters. There was one Gungan who was Force Sensitive and kidnapped by Cad Bane in the Clone Wars. Unfortunately, kid never became a Jedi.
“Weesa have a Grand Army” -Coolest Jar Jar quote
I love the gungans l want to see more of their military in future of star wars included the Elders
Me to!
Their tactics and weaponry do seem primitive considering galactic standard but it apparently gets the job done. (Especially since star wars is full of primitives punching well above their weight.)
Side note, they could probably do really well in a historical or fantasy based military setting and could probably pick up how to engage in combat and warfare really quickly.
A video about Wookie warriors would be cool, if there isn't one already. Ewoks too.
Gungans are underrated and by the way for those who don't know the scarred gungan in the thumbnail is kleef from the force unleashed ps2 version, he was a veteran of the battle of naboo and he served briefly as part of the security detail for jar jar on coruscant.Before turning to a live of crime and during the imperial era he worked for the mandalorian kingpin chop'aa notimo and became his second in command.
When they attacked cloud city and kidnapped senator garm bel Iblis but kleef and his boss were killed by starkiller and the senator was saved.
It’s kinda wild to consider due to their appearance in TPM,
Lore wise, The Gungans actually have one of the most fleshed military doctrines and tactics as far as individual alien species are concerned lol.
Like, the only comparable ones (in the films) are Wookiees and Ewoks
“What about the droid attack on the Wookiees?” (This is my way of asking for a vid about the Wookiees’ military)
8:10 problem with their war philosophy is that one can only do so much on Defense. Without being good at Offense or being clever on their attack... Cuz honestly while it was a huge Diversion vs the Trade Fed Battle Force it WAS one they honestly LOST. Displaying little or no attack abilities
[listens to video, forces self to remember that in Star Wars 'plasma'=='magic', not actual plasma]
I always liked the gungans when I played Galactic Battle Grounds. The droids were op tho because they didn't need barracks
Well the Trade Fed. used barracks, what didn't need is prefabs (houses) aka they had one Huns Civ. bonus from AoE2.
As somebody who grew up playing and mains the gungans in Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds it was a bit jarring to see designs, names and events I had only known from that game fully illustrated. For the longest time I thought they were game exclusive, made up as they went along!
Seriously could make a movie out of this . Star wars is so vast and yet everything has to revolve around the last 60+ before and after the clone wars
As a kid when episode 1 came out, I actually liked jar jar and the gungans and I still do.
gungans just jump in the the Mon Calamari fight. Was a pretty cool scene. Also when they took grevious out.
The Gungan Army might be unorthodox but you have got to respect them nonetheless. For they are warriors at heart.
❤❤❤
Word of advice, don't adhere to the hate bandwagon and TRY YOUR DARNDEST to make the Gungans and Ewoks loyal to your side in a war if not history.
The Gungan army really is one of the best armies in all of Star Wars. They were just misused in an open battle in Episode 1. But in The Clone Wars on Mon Calamari they showed their true strength fighting in an environment they excel in fighting alongside the Clones. The Gungan Grand Army is really amazing, has unique and interesting weapons and technology, and effective tactics they employ in combat.
Star wars needs more jar jar and lets not forget that 1 gungans sacrifice almost killed general grievous.
Gungans are COOL 😎
It would be cool to hear about the wookie army nobody ever talks about what the wookie military is like
The Hapan military would be a cool one for you to do!
For instance.
The Hapan Battle dragon is a freakin epic Battleship, could match a Star destroyer pretty decently!
Unlike the regular fandom I never hated Jar Jar Binks.
Sameeee
The shield generators create an interesting possibility in that they created a barrier that the trade federation had to go through. Deploy ground troops at the edge in whatever the naboo equivalent of a testudo formation and use electrolances to dispatch droids as they pass through the barrier.
Tanks and droidekas are the obvious counter to this, boomas offer limited response, the issue is collateral damage, so it basically boils down to how effective your shield wall is. Threat could be mitigated by improved artillery.
Deploying artillery in a flanking ambush, with catapults outside the defenses in concealed positions also has the potential to be effective, particularly if protected by cavalry. The risk is this leaves the flanking element exposed, would require a more effective means of exfiltration, possible assistance from Naboo resistance?
Everybody gangsta 'till the Gungans build the aethorophasic engine in Stellaris.
The gungans captured general grievous alive and imprisoned him disabled his whole strike package and didn’t need Jedi help to do it!
Honestly if they got blaster forms of boomers that’d prolly be a powerful tool for their armies
I think the Gungan's greatest strategic move was to convince the galaxy that they were a laughing stock. That way when your army is marching along and is suddenly ambushed by a thousand ninjas superman-diving you with electrospears and shutting down your tech with those blue ball thingies, you really have no idea what to do.
Seriously though, I always loved Gungans in general. I'd love stories about them serving the Old Republic as a military force, being one of the few truly martial-species that is also, y'know... not evil. The idea of them fighting a stand-up battle against Mandalorians, or being called in to protect a besieged city with their shield generators.
Played right, I think Gungans are amazing. Their appearance in the battle of mon cala was wonderful to see.
I still like the Darth Jar Jar being Darth Plagueis theory. Would make his slapstick make cooler sense. Disney could`ve done right by them by making Snoke a Jar Jar Play
A grand army indeed
Gungans need a much better PR Campaign.
the Mon Calamari fish army starship corps!!!
the Gungans defeated Grievous in battle while loosing only 3 Gungan soldiers. Meaning they are good enough to be called effective.
For being an entire civilization on one of the core Republic planets built completely around EMP technology in a time period when the main ops were droids, gungans were severely underestimated and underutilized imo. I ain't saying they should've just sent frogmen out to battle the Separatists, but their engineering and weaponry could've easily be built into the Grand Army's arsenal. Imagine a destructive bomb with like a city-wide radius that only damages droids and can safely be employed with clones on the field.
Damn i donno much about star wars, but these salamanders have the perfect skirmishing loadout
I forgot, did you guys ever do the Naboo Royal Security Force(s)?
I actually really like the tactic of using those big animals to carry their shield generators. Imagine how much more effective the Imperial Army would be if they got AT-ATs to do something similar.
I don't hate Jar Jar I never understood the hatred for him
Imagine how OP it would be if there was an army of wookies, gungans and ewoks against either the Trade Federation or an Imperial Garrison.
I love Jar Jar. The majority of hate come from the internet telling you to hate him
That's so funny, the thumbnail on the left has literally been my profile pic for years.
I mever hated jar jar.i liked his character from the first time.
I've never hated the gungans. But anyone who's fought a gungan with two vibroblades and an eye patch knows what they can do, guy was cool as hell.
they all mysteriously disappeared shortly after the repuplic became the empire
no one knows why
I loved JarJar when I was a kid and the movie came out
They get a bad rap because George Lucas and Dave Fioni hate General Grievous from the OG Clone Wars Mini series.
Anyone who's played the original Battlefront 2 knows how much of a colossal pain in the ass the fuckers are to fight
I'm pretty sure many Gungans would've joined the rebels against the Empire.
Because the Gungans and Naboo had to save each other in order to demonstrate the theme of symbiosis present throughout the Phantom Menace. Yeah, I think a LITTLE too much thought went into prequels.
Lucas: Yes, what is it?
Little boy: Can I just watch the movie?
Lucas: No, you cannot "just watch the movie". You won't enjoy it on as many levels as I do.
Huh, Force Commander makes an appearance!
Ah yes, such smart battle hardened Gungans. If you have a shield and your enemy can shoot from one end of the shield to the other, you position your forces far enough from the shield edge that most of them aren’t in range of it.
They bring multiple bubble shields and place these in a line, providing the least support capabilities and letting the enemy easily surround them or use destruction in detail to defeat them. A box figure would have been an easy way to improve on this defense. And there would need to be a lot more protection on the shield generators because right now these towering beasts can easily be shot and killed or their shield generator hit by any enterprising person entering the shield. A thousand B1’s ordered to fire at it would have done the trick, bringing a few anti-vehicle weapons and firing them from the shield edge would have done it too.
The defense is also woefully inadequate. If the trade federation had decided to attack from multiple directions rather than just the front, that wall of gungans with shields would have been useless and the artillery would have needed to divide it’s attention.
Frankly that the Gungans know what the right end is of a spear is surprising.
Awesome video though it was very well done
I like the theory that Jar Jar Binks is actualy a sith
Their weaponry is the definition of rugged and reliable.
For comparison each little blue ball is the equivalent of 40k plasma gun shot.
Their tactics might be outdated but are nothing to scoff at, the Gungan endure.
Also they look like the Rakata so extra points?
I would say their design is a lot more aesthetically pleasing than rakata. Rakata are like reptilian hammerhead sharks. While gungans are more like amphibious dragons. But just my opinion
@@personalgoogleaccount9694 If they were hamerhead gray hide, that would be aesthetically pleasing, giving them alien and threatening vibe, i'm sorry but they the Rakata in some art look like claw hammer covered with scr0tum skin, like some of the comic art and even the Swtor models are bad with those wrinkles.
Imagine if the gangun grate sheilds were able to deflect the progectals of the droid tanks agents them like they smaller ones
Makes you wonder if any Force Sensitive Gungans really came into the Jedi (or sith) Fold, since they were a rather reclusive species before the events of TPM. Yet in Legends (i belive) there were named Gungan Jedi and Sith. Imagine if the Gungan Grand Army had Jedi Generals, years before Jedi Generals were a thing in The Clone Wars. "Bombad Jedi General" just sounds badass in a way. Get to have Republic and Gungan Grand Army tones to it.
0:12 Darth JarJar deserves more hate
I always liked jar jar lol
Could you try dig up info on the doug army, they seem to be the only faction to use railguns
Prefer when he was Darth Jarjar an was subtly manipulating the force allowing him to do his shenanigans
Jar Jar is the true dark lord. He has fooled everyone.
Remember when the gungans could of took out Grevous but decided to trade him
Gungans during Imperial era next?
How many planets have planet-scale development (like we’ve seen in the Mandalorian episode in Book of Boba Fett)?
Do the Umbarans mann
In defense of the Gungans, pretty much everyone in the Prequel Era fight pretty badly when it come to land engagements, and it‘s way less rational for the clones and droids than it is for the Gungans.
You're forgetting Jar Jar is a sith
This is Canon for me!
Im 28 and I watched the preguels since they came out. Ive watched the movies like 10 times at least and Ive never had trouble or found jar jar obtuse. However I watched the Phantom menace last week, my mind naturally more experienced now since last time. There is just sooo much Jar Jar I for the first time, got tired of him. Every second is just overly saturated with Jar Jar
36 hours? That might be viable for Otoh Gunga and its environs, but I hardly think that's believable for the entire Gungan civilisation. Further, there are 3.24 billion Gungans (72% of the total of 4.5 billion inhabitants of Naboo), so their whole army should rank in the _millions_ I mean, even assuming the military accounts for no more 0.1% of the eligible male population (assuming 'eligible' accounts for ~1/4 of males, excluding children and adolescents at the low end, and those no longer fit enough at the high end), you're looking at a total in the _hundreds of thousands_ .
This an example of on paper one army looks pitiful in nature. Yet is probably the one the most robust and effective militaries by any race of society by making the best use of it its resources and defeated enemies that seemed more technologically advanced. But the thing about Organic soliders is yes they can break and even desert their lines if the stress of battle can get too great for them. However equally such dire situations in battle can rally some troops to fight on because they know the alternative is much worse.
Battledroids at least in the battle of naboo for the most part were simple and programed they really lacked the personalities to they developed later. Thus made them less adaptable and more inflexible if shit hit the fan. Sure the Gungans could have made better use of the terrain but do to due the abilities and even blunders of some individuals like Jar Jar actually stalled the trade federation army long enough for the naboo strike team to captured Vicroy Nut Gunray which in tern probably cut off communication with the trade federation fleet with various other factors that led to the trade federations downfall at the battle of Naboo with its leadership disorganized it meant a lone start fighter could fly inside the droid control ship destroying it cause the army to shut down. The Vicroy was too afrogant and greed for his own good that he fell for the bait that was Gungan Grand Army. It was never meant to out right defeat the trade federation simply stall for time for the real fight else where."
This is what bothers me about people sayin "cW gRiEvOuS wAs bEaTeN bY gUnGaNs" like something pejorative
He lost to them because he, just like that breed of people, didn't take them seriously. Let's see YOU take on an army of amphibian warriors armed with EMPs
Who’s the new narrator? Forgive me for asking but I’m paranoid about UA-camrs changing.
(Or I’m just dumb)
I liked playing the gungans campaign in galactic battlegrounds or whatever the age of empires version of Star Wars was called for pc. I still hate jar jar binks.
The Galactic battle grounds story was cannon??????
I've always liked jar jar.
The amount of hate Jar Jar got would have been basically non-existant if he didn't get any commanding position in the battle in my opinion.
I got annoyed with him on that part but otherwise I like Jar Jar