@@Afff-wi6pt As a side note, this phrase has made it over to the states. People use it in (american) football 😂😂 like, "Lads, it's the Dallas Cowboys" or whatever haha
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker You just took me down memory lane. I’m a passionate Utd fan and my whole family are Commanders (Redskins) fans whilst I’m a Ravens fan. I used to make fun of my dad and brothers as redskins were notorious to fumble a game no matter how big the lead was. I would jokingly say “Lads, it’s the Redskins, they’d find a way to lose” and they always proved me right 😂 Btw I just found your channel few days ago and I literally can’t get enough of your videos. They’re absolutely amazing. I’ve been binging on them nonstop, and learning so much in a short period of time. I’ve been playing FM since back in high school but never really took time to learn more about the player roles and instructions. I would just download a tactic and just plug and play. With some luck, I’d make few tweaks that may work for some time but usually, the tactics are not my desired style of play as I only wanted to beat the game engine and win games. Now that I have a better understanding of the roles and the game in general, I created a tactic with my vision of how I want my team to play and seeing it translate in-game was amazing. It’s a work in progress but I’m headed in the right direction, all thanks to you. You’ve gained a subscriber and a fan.
You're the fm goat for people like me who just started this year. A lot of other UA-camrs don't explain why something works. This is the fm college course i needed.
thanks!!! :D and I've been making my way through some football history books, it'd be fun to try out some of those tactics/player roles.. thanks for the suggestion!
This is a good video. In about 18 years of playing the game I’ve never actually used a conventional 442…until today. I’ve just started a save as Millwall in the Championship - I figured they’re as good a team as any to try and build a 442 tactic that takes advantage of set pieces etc. We’re predicted to finish 17th but can hopefully outperform that. The part of this video that covers the midfield was especially interesting - I’d opted for a wide playmaker thanks to your inspiration but my two central midfielders are a BBM and BWM(D) however I think I will change those - as they seem to be clearing the centre of the pitch too often - perhaps a CM(D) to replace the BWM. I’d loaded in the default ‘Route One’ tactic to use as a base but I’ve noticed that even the default tactics in the game seem to use a shit ton of team instructions in comparison to your tactics - do you think it’s best to strip all those back and see how the actual player roles and team shape plays out before trying to implement any team instructions specifically? Apologies for the long comment but discovering this channel has felt like being granted FM sustenance for the first time in a long time of chewing on the cud of FM UA-cam.
I always love a long comment haha. Gives me something to do! And for your question, I'm very much a minimalist when it comes to team instructions. I feel you can get to 85%/90% of your tactic with just formation and player roles. With that process, you can really get a feel for your team and then how to add in instructions to take it to the next step. I will say, this approach isn't like a "world beater/create a super team" way to play or anything. It's very much a more realistic take on tactic building, so success is team dependent. As an example, in some of my early tactic videos I used Luton Town when they were in the Premier League. We managed to finish 13th that season, which to me is a resounding success, but it's not exactly thrilling haha. thank you for the question and the support! hope my answer helps a bit :)
Great video. You motivated me to change my tactics from 433 to 442 and it was something great. Two strikers in this version of FM do a great job when one makes space and the other exploits it. My favourite combination is DLF and AF or F9 and AF.... It depends on the players you have because and I will play Target Forward when someone plays well in the air.
glad it helped :) DLF and AF is one of the best in the game; they're so good together. The AF will drop sometimes and the DLF switches as the lead striker; it's good stuff
Anchor is so awesome player role that in a 4-3-3, the anchor will body guard your central defenders with his life. It is awesome! A good anchor with a pair of Mezzalas, your team will be a goal machine.
If you keep posting videos this good, people will stop the go-on-holiday-and-complain trend and will really play the game! That would be outrageous!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 a good video you might do in the future would be investigating the concept of isolation, specifically isolate a great dribbler to put him 1o1 with the defender 😉
I just got sacked from Sriwijaya FC (Indonesia 2nd league), because of my 442 Diamond got beaten. Then I passed the interview to manage PSM (Who just got promoted back to Indonesia 2nd leage) and using your 442, and it works well within my first 4 matches! I got 2 win, 1 draw and 1 lose. Thankss mate! This is useful for my Journeyman save, which already in my 7th year 😁👍
thank you :) the 4141 could use some same principles; you can be more aggressive with your center midfield roles since you've got that DM sitting behind them
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Gracias. I have an AP-Support and a CM-Attack. Of course, this was decided after watching your wonderful videos about those roles 😅🙂. Gran trabajo, se agradece enormemente .🙏
@@angelobenito-aguilar503 I may steal that AP-CM(A) combo for a role video 🤣 so if you see it pop up in the future, you can be like "this was my idea!" 😅😅
really good content bro. is there any chance u could do a series on each of the in possession in transition and out of possession instructions similar to your player roles series
It would be interesting to watch how you protect space with 442 or 4231, or how to beat a particular formation. I think lots of people don’t understand it
Why am I watching this video if I am playing a 4 2 3 1!? 😂😂😂 Great video, one of the reasons I have never played 4 4 2 it is that I find it hard to find wingers that natively play on the middlefield line (most of the wingers play on the offensive line natively). Do you have the same feeling? Also, maybe you can make a video sharing how you use your scouting :) Again, Thanks for the video 😊
yea I get the same feeling sometimes too; it's not just you. And I hope to get around to scouting shortly :) I'm making a new series on a save with more club focused stuff
Top notch content! In terms of pairs, is a engache and a trequatistia a good pair in a 3421? Would like to hear your thoughts in terms of space but also in workrate in terms of defence.
now that's a new combo idea! I would probably use a Shadow Striker with those two (Eng/Shadow, or Treq/Shadow) , but to get stuff out of them defensively they'd have to have good work rate (14+ work rate attribtue). Of course, you could try to outscore everyone haha
4-4-1-1 is basically another 442 variants. You got one second striker (shadow striker kids these days said) and one traditional striker like Target man or a poacher
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker yes, as a Sporting CP and Ruben Amorim fan, I love the style and on my United save I create a 343 using your player roles explanation and it's insane! I always think I can improve it and I tweak some things during match and your video will tell me that for sure 🙌🏻
I honestly thing the classic tip of not playing with a BWM in a 442 is a bit old hat. The BWM(D) has been reigned in in the last few years. Unless you're pushing both FB's or employing a high press, a BWM(D) can work really well if you want a defensive player with more bite as the CM(D) can be a bit passive. I wouldn't go crazy with his partner of course, usually use a CM(S), BBM or CAR as his partner.
thanks for the tip/counter argument :) I think you bring up a good point in that if you think about your pairings you could make the BWM a useful addition
you could use a BPD maybe on the stopper duty. It won't be a Libero, but that could get him on the ball and sometimes into the midfield. Another option would be to use two Central Defenders and an Inverted Wing Back; that'll do something similar in terms of your player's positioning
What if a use this with a positive mentality, trigger press more often, and dribble less as team instructions? Do you think it will work as a possession/pressing tactic?
I'd probably switch some of the roles around. Maybe a FB(A) instead of a WB(A) and probably switch the SV(A) to maybe a DM(S). The 424 is more attacking, so I'd like to tighten up our defensive and covering roles
I'd use it probably as a supporting role, yea. But use a more attacking role on that same side to give us an attacking threat. Maybe Winger (A) or even put a Wide Playmaker (A) over there.
I probably wouldn't use two SV in a 442; they'll both leave their position and like Kelvin says you'll get hit on the counter. I like to have at least one holding midfielder. I like to protect those center backs :)
I tried Premier League for the first time with Man Utd and I can't make it work like I want, despite trying different things. Martial seems weak, Rashford/Sancho as a Raumdeuter are useless. I have one interesting striker, Hojlund, whom I wanted to use as a target man, but he doesn't get the ball and doesn't perform well enough. I move Fernandes around with no effect and use Casemiro as BWM, which doesn't help. And the FB/WBs are non existent, very disappointing. I'm thinking about playing without them, with IFB or IWB instead, but then I'd need to use wingers on both sides. Stopped playing for now, very frustrating.
Yea the game can be frustrating for sure... sometimes it seems nothing works. I will say, I've done some work with Man United and they can be super finnicky and inconsistent. Especially the attacking players; some players can only play in one role, or one position. Really tough
Sir Alex would be proud of you
we need a team instruction "use Fergie Time"
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I ABSOLUTELY AGREE !!!
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymakerAnd half-time team talk "Lads, it's Tottenham."
@@Afff-wi6pt As a side note, this phrase has made it over to the states. People use it in (american) football 😂😂 like, "Lads, it's the Dallas Cowboys" or whatever haha
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker You just took me down memory lane. I’m a passionate Utd fan and my whole family are Commanders (Redskins) fans whilst I’m a Ravens fan. I used to make fun of my dad and brothers as redskins were notorious to fumble a game no matter how big the lead was. I would jokingly say “Lads, it’s the Redskins, they’d find a way to lose” and they always proved me right 😂
Btw I just found your channel few days ago and I literally can’t get enough of your videos. They’re absolutely amazing. I’ve been binging on them nonstop, and learning so much in a short period of time. I’ve been playing FM since back in high school but never really took time to learn more about the player roles and instructions. I would just download a tactic and just plug and play. With some luck, I’d make few tweaks that may work for some time but usually, the tactics are not my desired style of play as I only wanted to beat the game engine and win games.
Now that I have a better understanding of the roles and the game in general, I created a tactic with my vision of how I want my team to play and seeing it translate in-game was amazing. It’s a work in progress but I’m headed in the right direction, all thanks to you. You’ve gained a subscriber and a fan.
I was on a 7 loss streak last night on my 6th year in Sweden using a 442. I needed this!
hope it helps!!!
FINALLY 442. I've been waiting for this. I got stressed by my Cambridge to avoid relegation in Championship. Good video 👍👍
hope it helps!!
Learning the game by your tutorials. Thank you so much
great to see you :)
You're the fm goat for people like me who just started this year. A lot of other UA-camrs don't explain why something works. This is the fm college course i needed.
thank you for the kind words :)
the only american allowed to talk about about football. amazing pal. maybe you could try to emulate classic managers/teams?
thanks!!! :D
and I've been making my way through some football history books, it'd be fun to try out some of those tactics/player roles.. thanks for the suggestion!
This is a good video. In about 18 years of playing the game I’ve never actually used a conventional 442…until today. I’ve just started a save as Millwall in the Championship - I figured they’re as good a team as any to try and build a 442 tactic that takes advantage of set pieces etc. We’re predicted to finish 17th but can hopefully outperform that. The part of this video that covers the midfield was especially interesting - I’d opted for a wide playmaker thanks to your inspiration but my two central midfielders are a BBM and BWM(D) however I think I will change those - as they seem to be clearing the centre of the pitch too often - perhaps a CM(D) to replace the BWM. I’d loaded in the default ‘Route One’ tactic to use as a base but I’ve noticed that even the default tactics in the game seem to use a shit ton of team instructions in comparison to your tactics - do you think it’s best to strip all those back and see how the actual player roles and team shape plays out before trying to implement any team instructions specifically?
Apologies for the long comment but discovering this channel has felt like being granted FM sustenance for the first time in a long time of chewing on the cud of FM UA-cam.
I always love a long comment haha. Gives me something to do! And for your question, I'm very much a minimalist when it comes to team instructions. I feel you can get to 85%/90% of your tactic with just formation and player roles. With that process, you can really get a feel for your team and then how to add in instructions to take it to the next step.
I will say, this approach isn't like a "world beater/create a super team" way to play or anything. It's very much a more realistic take on tactic building, so success is team dependent. As an example, in some of my early tactic videos I used Luton Town when they were in the Premier League. We managed to finish 13th that season, which to me is a resounding success, but it's not exactly thrilling haha.
thank you for the question and the support! hope my answer helps a bit :)
Love your channel. Also I'd love to see more of role combination videos like you did previously with Poacher & Enganche for example
thank you :) I'll definitely be doing more combo videos going forward
I always wait for your videos.
thank you :)
Great video. You motivated me to change my tactics from 433 to 442 and it was something great. Two strikers in this version of FM do a great job when one makes space and the other exploits it. My favourite combination is DLF and AF or F9 and AF.... It depends on the players you have because and I will play Target Forward when someone plays well in the air.
glad it helped :) DLF and AF is one of the best in the game; they're so good together. The AF will drop sometimes and the DLF switches as the lead striker; it's good stuff
A fantastic tactical instruction is to exchange positions between both strikers. Defenders often lose cover :-)
Anchor is so awesome player role that in a 4-3-3, the anchor will body guard your central defenders with his life. It is awesome! A good anchor with a pair of Mezzalas, your team will be a goal machine.
so true. I have to try other DM roles because I usually default to the Anchor haha
If you keep posting videos this good, people will stop the go-on-holiday-and-complain trend and will really play the game! That would be outrageous!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 a good video you might do in the future would be investigating the concept of isolation, specifically isolate a great dribbler to put him 1o1 with the defender 😉
ooo I love that video idea
I just got sacked from Sriwijaya FC (Indonesia 2nd league), because of my 442 Diamond got beaten. Then I passed the interview to manage PSM (Who just got promoted back to Indonesia 2nd leage) and using your 442, and it works well within my first 4 matches! I got 2 win, 1 draw and 1 lose. Thankss mate! This is useful for my Journeyman save, which already in my 7th year 😁👍
thanks for sharing!!! sometimes all you need is a good 442! :D
Great explanations, as always! I am trying to use some for a 4141.
thank you :) the 4141 could use some same principles; you can be more aggressive with your center midfield roles since you've got that DM sitting behind them
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Gracias. I have an AP-Support and a CM-Attack. Of course, this was decided after watching your wonderful videos about those roles 😅🙂. Gran trabajo, se agradece enormemente .🙏
@@angelobenito-aguilar503 I may steal that AP-CM(A) combo for a role video 🤣 so if you see it pop up in the future, you can be like "this was my idea!" 😅😅
really good content bro. is there any chance u could do a series on each of the in possession in transition and out of possession instructions similar to your player roles series
that's a great idea thanks for the suggestion :) you're right I think it'd be helpful to go over the different transitions
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker thanks man
Now do 451 ;) ... got something cooking in Scotland...but could use a tweak. haha. (Great stuff as ever.)
mmm a 4-5-1 is a great idea.. I do need to try that!
It would be interesting to watch how you protect space with 442 or 4231, or how to beat a particular formation. I think lots of people don’t understand it
that's a good suggestion thank you :)
This will be good
I hope you enjoyed it :D
You make it easy for beginners like me understand....could you do a series on playing styles
thank you :) I hope to do more, but I've got a few videos on play styles if you're curious (mainly one on attacking, counter, and possession styles)
Why am I watching this video if I am playing a 4 2 3 1!? 😂😂😂 Great video, one of the reasons I have never played 4 4 2 it is that I find it hard to find wingers that natively play on the middlefield line (most of the wingers play on the offensive line natively). Do you have the same feeling?
Also, maybe you can make a video sharing how you use your scouting :)
Again, Thanks for the video 😊
yea I get the same feeling sometimes too; it's not just you.
And I hope to get around to scouting shortly :) I'm making a new series on a save with more club focused stuff
Hey man , another great video. If I make a suggestion, you can consider a video about "wrong" duo roles to use :)
now that's a fun video idea! Great suggestion.
Top notch content! In terms of pairs, is a engache and a trequatistia a good pair in a 3421? Would like to hear your thoughts in terms of space but also in workrate in terms of defence.
now that's a new combo idea! I would probably use a Shadow Striker with those two (Eng/Shadow, or Treq/Shadow) , but to get stuff out of them defensively they'd have to have good work rate (14+ work rate attribtue). Of course, you could try to outscore everyone haha
Do you have any player instructions for this particular setup? Or pretty blank slate. Great vid as always.
thanks :) and no player instructions with this one.. with further tweaking I'd probably add in some but none as of now.
FM players waiting for a tactic which has trequartista:☠️ (Maybe you can do)
I'll see if I can do something with the Trequartista!!
4-4-1-1 is basically another 442 variants. You got one second striker (shadow striker kids these days said) and one traditional striker like Target man or a poacher
the 442 is versatile to adjustments like you mention. You could do a 442, 4411, 4141, or 424 without much work
I would love to see you make a tactic with the raumdeuter, trequartista, wtf, enganche, carrillero, segundo volante and libero.
Don't tempt me haha
Recently I build all my tactics based on your player roles explanation AHAHAH you're a legend. Make 3 4 3 next 🙌🏻🫶🏻
thank you :D
and you're right I do need to do a 343!!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker yes, as a Sporting CP and Ruben Amorim fan, I love the style and on my United save I create a 343 using your player roles explanation and it's insane! I always think I can improve it and I tweak some things during match and your video will tell me that for sure 🙌🏻
I love 442 formation
it's so good :D
Discuss ppm ( gets into opposition area) 😊
thanks for the suggestion :) hope to make a video on PPM
I honestly thing the classic tip of not playing with a BWM in a 442 is a bit old hat. The BWM(D) has been reigned in in the last few years. Unless you're pushing both FB's or employing a high press, a BWM(D) can work really well if you want a defensive player with more bite as the CM(D) can be a bit passive. I wouldn't go crazy with his partner of course, usually use a CM(S), BBM or CAR as his partner.
thanks for the tip/counter argument :) I think you bring up a good point in that if you think about your pairings you could make the BWM a useful addition
Amazing tactic, as usual...3 wins in a row in my lower league save but there are no liberos here, so what do we use instead?...
you could use a BPD maybe on the stopper duty. It won't be a Libero, but that could get him on the ball and sometimes into the midfield. Another option would be to use two Central Defenders and an Inverted Wing Back; that'll do something similar in terms of your player's positioning
Thanks a lot, will try to find a half decent BPD....kudos to you!!
Pls make a vid on the 3-4-3 formation Mr. Roaming Spacemaker 😂
I need to make a 343 for sure!!
for team instructions u stay all on default except for difensife line and low block?
yep! very simple tactic but effective
What if a use this with a positive mentality, trigger press more often, and dribble less as team instructions? Do you think it will work as a possession/pressing tactic?
442 is excellent for pressing
Yea the 442 is amazing for pressing. Especially if you use those two Pressing Forwards
442 diamond narrow please!
I've got it on the ideas list :D
It won't be super immediate, but I hope to get it up in the not too distant future
Jolie
Would you say that similar tips can be given for a 424?
I wouldn't use a low block
I'd probably switch some of the roles around. Maybe a FB(A) instead of a WB(A) and probably switch the SV(A) to maybe a DM(S). The 424 is more attacking, so I'd like to tighten up our defensive and covering roles
cam you do something with narrow formation?
hope to have something on a 442 diamond in the future :) thank you for the suggestion
So if you used a BWM either on support or defend you would still want someone just dedicated to coverage?
I'd use it probably as a supporting role, yea. But use a more attacking role on that same side to give us an attacking threat. Maybe Winger (A) or even put a Wide Playmaker (A) over there.
@ is your other midfielder a defend duty to help screen for the bwm’s aggressive destroyer behavior?
How do I set up, I want my wingers to stay wide, can that work?
The Winger player role will generally stay wide in this formation, so they will definitely work :) good luck!
what about playing two segundo volante one on support and one on attack
Not in a 442 I wouldn't. You need one to sit or you'll get picked off centrally on the counter especially by systems with an AM
@@kelvinengland3991 thanks
Two holding midfielders in 4-4-2
I probably wouldn't use two SV in a 442; they'll both leave their position and like Kelvin says you'll get hit on the counter. I like to have at least one holding midfielder. I like to protect those center backs :)
Ladies and gentlemen. We will be playing Four-Four-F***in Two.
what I wouldn't give for this to be an option in a team meeting
YES, a 4-4-2 😂
some say the best formation haha
I tried Premier League for the first time with Man Utd and I can't make it work like I want, despite trying different things. Martial seems weak, Rashford/Sancho as a Raumdeuter are useless. I have one interesting striker, Hojlund, whom I wanted to use as a target man, but he doesn't get the ball and doesn't perform well enough. I move Fernandes around with no effect and use Casemiro as BWM, which doesn't help. And the FB/WBs are non existent, very disappointing. I'm thinking about playing without them, with IFB or IWB instead, but then I'd need to use wingers on both sides. Stopped playing for now, very frustrating.
Yea the game can be frustrating for sure... sometimes it seems nothing works. I will say, I've done some work with Man United and they can be super finnicky and inconsistent. Especially the attacking players; some players can only play in one role, or one position. Really tough