I accidentally edited out the bit where we mention Leonard Nimoy being the voice of Galvatron/Sentinal. So Ben put in a picture of him along with the on screen text "Leonard Nimoy". We know is what I'm saying.
You guys should do HER (2013), it’s wholesome almost saccharine film, but set in a future that’s nearly dystopian with the way people are connected with their devices. And literally love the AI.
I like how they repeatedly say “Patrick Dempsey, the actor, is in league with the Decepticons.” Not his character, but Patrick Dempsey himself is allied with the Decepticons
"Be strong enough to be gentle." - Peter Cullen, quoting his war veteran brother regarding what it is to be a hero, and what inspired his voice for Optimus "GIVE ME YOUR FACE!" "YOU DIE! YAARGGH!" - Bayverse Optimus Prime
Optimus being Peaceful after the Decepticons betrayed murdered and destroyed an entire city murdering Millions is just ignorant. You GWunners need to realize this isn’t an 80’s toy commercial lol ROTF give me your face was outta pocket tho
16:03 Michael Bay looking at his abs and saying "What if they were a big robot snake?" is somehow the most accurate thing I've heard about Michael Bay.
"NO OPTIMUS!" - A defenceless transformer begging for his life, moments before Optimus Prime brutally executes him wish a shotgun to the back of the head at point-blank range.
If you ever have trouble realizing how terrible Optimus is just replace him with someone like Captain America brutally murdering people by shooting them in the back of their head and ripping their head still attached to their spine with an axe, predator style.
In regards to what's said at 15:23 it's even more heartbreaking to see how horribly Optimus is written when you hear Peter Cullen talk about how he got the role. He based the voice on his brother who served in the army and it was his brother's advice to play the character as sincere and gentle rather than tough and macho. You should defiantly look up the clip. I also had the chance to meet him at a comic con and he is the absolute nicest guy, very reserved but warm and friendly. All of this just makes me hate the live action movies more. F*ck Michael Bay.
@@NobleRaider2747 you aren't wrong. I doubt newbies like say, Chris Pratt are that deep in their shit. But after that BS with Tom Hanks, I gave up on ALL of Hollywood. As in trying to defend any of them. We have people left and right being called crazy (Randy Quaid, which at this point he has lost his mind. Sorry man, you didn't deserve this) and ridiculed out of the "circle" because they knew more was going on behind the scenes. I've been in love with cinema my whole life, but I'm perfectly ok with people who I thought were great, going to prison for life. And forgetting they existed.
I was an extra in this one. The studio liked to use real soldiers to play the roles. They even paid us pretty well for our time. I remember everyone being super cool. Except Shia maybe. Had a great time, watched the explosions, ate good food. Best week in the Army ever.
"No one's ever tilted a room before" You guys remember that life-size Titanic replica set made for Cameron's film? Half that whole set could tilt and be lowered into a massive tank full of water, and even that wasn't the first to have a tilting room. Tilting sets have been a thing since the 1950's, if not even longer ago than that.
@@charmyzard Yep. It's one of those parts of the USA that is just wrecked because of many factors, mainly economic stagnation and faulty infrastructure.
@@loonyleper Watch Lindsey Ellis' "The Whole Plate" videos... Mikaela is the best character in these movies, and I say that as both loving praise, and a vitriolic condemnation of everything else about them.
Michael Bay is really great at spectacle. And he makes the military look really cool, which is why they give him so much access to film them. He filmed a lot of the real personnel just doing their job in the Scorponok scene in the first one. I guess he told them what the situation was and then just filmed how they would handle it. And the part with the credit card was a real thing that happened with a soldier during a big gunfight. A soldier told Bay that story, so he just put it in the movie. Lol.
I mainly did that with the first act, but once it hits the first hour when they discovered that the Decepticons knew about the pillars and knew about Sentinel Prime, that's when it gets good
Mike and Jay of Red Letter Media literally only saw half of it for Half in the Bag. Jay saw the first half and Mike saw the 2nd half and it's funny watching them trying to piece it all together.
Right? He's like a merciless killing machine in these movies. He's closest in the first movie and Bumblebee, every other movie is all, "GIVE ME YOUR FACE," or, "WE WILL KILL THEM ALL."
Optimus is ruthless monster in the series, what's weird is he begs for mercy when he loses fights but never returns it. The rest of the cast other than Bee are just there to be killed for shock value. The Bay films are so offensive to the value and core of the original series.
@LittleRedRhuari RRR also don't forget in the first movie when they're about to see the coordinates of the cube from the glasses. That whole conversation. Jazz: what about bumblebee? We can't just leave him to die. Optimus: he'll die in vain if we don't accomplish our mission. Bumblebee is a brave soldier. This is what he would've wanted. Ironhide: why are we fighting to save the humans. They're a primitive, violent race. Optimus: were we so different? They're a young species. They have much to learn. But I've seen goodness in them. Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. You all know there's only one way to end this war. We must destroy the cube. If all else fails, i will unite it with the spark in my chest. Ratchet: that's suicide. The cube is raw power. It could destroy you both. Optimus: a necessary sacrifice to bring peace to this planet. We cannot let the humans pay for our mistakes. It's been an honor serving with you all. Autobots, roll out! There are some other moments too. Generations of war turned him numbed to killing, which makes sense to me.
He was pretty noble in the first movie. Ready to sacrifice himself and his race for sake of everyone else in the universe. But after he killed Bonecrusher, he grew a blood lust....or an energon lust...
His movie scores of the transformers are some of the best movies scores of all time. No cap! I actually think The Last Knight has the best soundtrack. So many good gems in that.
@@rajarajanmanoharan yeah how is that score so underappreciated?! I literally get goosebumps every time I listen to it. I don’t know any other movie score that has so many solid tracks after tracks. Album is stellar. unfortunately the movie score got edited in wrong ways or not used rightfully according to an interview with the composer, Steve Jablonsky. He said that the full version of the movie (that he watched before Bay/Paramount shortened the runtime) handled the score as he would have wanted.
Something an abuser says to make their victim feel hopeless to getting away from them. "You'd be/have nothing without me. Nobody but me could love someone like you"
Holy shit, the editing on that The Office parody, that was amazing. I'm assuming Ben did that, but kudos to whoever did it, just in case it -wasn't- him :P
"She didn't appreciate me for who i am"... why do I feel that line explaining michaela's absence was Bay's personal allegory for why he didnt like Megan Fox?🤣
Fun Fact: John Frazier (the Special Effects Supervisor who is shown in this video) also worked on all 3 Raimi Spider-Man films which makes the bit about the building even more baffling!
Funniest scene is Ken Jeong saying “you messed with the wronggg wang today” 😂 whipping out dual pistols, and that little head rotation 🤣 nah I was deadddd
J.O.R.D that man is crazy! still taking his hangover character to Transformers.....thats what i hate about guys with guns more talking than shooting ended up dead
@@Commander_Shepard. She was talking about Bay making her wear a bikini and being too young. Jimmy makes a weird comment about how "we all have thosev perv, creep thoughts, but you're supposed to keep them inside"
Out of all the insane moments in the Transformers franchise Optimus Prime executing a old man begging for his life with a shotgun in broad daylight on a Chicago bridge is certainly one of them. This movie is SO fucking violent.
@@scumspawn666 As someone who has no attachment to the Transformers franchise, I love that he did that. The Autobots being war criminals makes the movie a whole lot funnier.
people always leave out the part that the "old man begging for his life" just executed an entire invasion of chicago, killing half the population and held a giant box cutter knife to optimus's neck many, many times. 100% deserved
@@shydun It's still weird to put multiple public executions in your Transformers movie. And yes it is multiple. I forgot to mention the moment where the Autobots are rounded up and one of them looks at Bumblebee and frightfully says, "I think they're going to kill us Bee"
I always thought it would of been a great character moment for Sam to realize that he’s unhappy with his life and job because he doesn’t feel like he’s making a difference anymore, and him realizing that fighting off aliens and being a hero is his true calling.
Sounded more like he was jealous that he isn't as recognized for his role in saving the world as he hoped to be. In the 2nd film he told Bumblebee to leave him be while in college, but here he complains Bee doesn't visit him anymore.
Kyle Gmerek well yeah i thought.. hypothetically of course since michael bay just did what he does, anyhow, in the first two movies he wants nothing to do with Transformers but here I thought it was leaning towards when he finally got what he basically wanted it wasn’t enough and being a hero is what he’s really about, but none of that happened so who cares really, but imagine a transformers 4 and 5 where sam has fully embraced a hero role and what not, just more interesting through line for his story
What I liked about this is it felt like it built on Sam’s statistical uselessness in a self-aware way. The Decepticons didn’t get caught by Sam, they wanted him to find out about the space bridge because they needed Optimus to revive Sentinel in order to use it. They pretended to hide and use humans to try and cover up the moon thing so that Sam would dig into it. As Bayverse Decepticon plots go, this one is actually pretty involved.
One of my favourite reviews for this film describes the plot line where the moon landings was all due to transformers on the moon as wit in Michael Bay's world. It’s brilliant because it admits it’s silly but for Michael Bay it is clever.
Megan's statement I thought was really moving, she addressed the obvious problems with Bay but she saw past that to the awkward insecure child man who likes making movies and noted his better qualities. She's a good person but they fired her anyway, screw Spielberg and Bay.
One positive I can give these movies is that they give obscure Transformers villans a spotlight. The Fallen and Sentinal were unknown to everyone but very hardcore fans before the movies, and now they're well known characters
@@XVNRX "gained" respect? Was that before or after he started executing transformers beging for their lives and treatening that he will kill all of the humans.
I like what they did with Starscream in the Prime cartoon. Cause in the movies there’s literally no reason for him to be the “cowardly backstabber” archetype cause he’s literally the size of a fighter jet and covered in saw blades. But in Prime he’s only that horrible metal giant to the humans and to other transformers he’s this weedy, snivelling has-been, who has sharp nails and some rockets when they all have death tentacles and webshooters and fusion cannons. The most damage he ever does is to people who are already injured or dying. He’s more competent than movie starscream but NOBODY takes him seriously, I love it.
Lots of people feel that way. I’ve seen this movie but don’t remember most of it. Probably because it’s 2 hours too long and not much story happens. All the explosions and action scenes blend together. The mind craves having diversity in stimulations. So a good action film can balance good storytelling with action sequences that are short but memorable. This film? It’s just 2 hours of explosions happening back to back with nothing in the story or pacing to set them apart and make them memorable.
I just wanted to point out that if you look closely, Sentinel Prime has a Cybertronian alternate-form when on the Moon / at Nest. He is maroon with spots of gold on him and has all smooth surfaces. He has metal wheels on him where he has tires later on. The wings on his back and windows on his chest don't make full-sense in those scenes. I think the CGI animators were just lazy with Sentinel's Cybertronian form. Optimus Prime's Cybertronian form in Bumblebee 2018 is even worse than this. He just has different wheels, no windshield-wipers and different exhaust pipes on his shoulders.
5:15 "The opening of this movie is surprisingly sparse... and you can tell what's going on." I'm surprised you guys didn't remember the reason for this: 3D. This came out in the aftermath of Avatar, when all studios were trying to get that 3D money (till the fad mercifully did out.) At the time, Transformers 3 was hyped as being the ultimate 3D experience ever created, and like Avatar, it was actually filmed with 3D cameras instead of just being converted in post like most other early 10's films. I remember seeing some featurette where Bay talks about consulting with James Cameron, and one of his tips was to tone down the erratic camera work because it doesn't play well in 3D. Bay at least tried to do this in the opening. 3D might have factored into the janky JFK FX too.
That is exactly how I felt, for Transformers 4. I was having a HARD time getting into these new characters, but they FINALLY started growing on me, and there was a point where Dad saved the daughter, and I decided that the movie was actually worthwhile. HOWEVER, I suddenly realized that there weren't even any Dinobots yet. I suddenly became conscious of the time & realized that what I had seen couldn't possibly have been the finale. From that point on, I couldn't help but wonder how much time was elapsing? I started the movie during the day, but it was likely dark outside. I couldn't believe how long the film was & how long it felt.
Upon rewatch i have to say that my favourite thing about this movie is the fact that the building the Decepticons use as a part of their evil master plan is Trump Tower
Lindsay Elles taught me that the funny thing is that *Michael*-a *Bay*-nes was the real hero and apparently the genderbent self insert. Though if Sam is supposed to represent his normal off set self then I must give credit for self awareness and self deprecation.
I was dying at that whole office sitcom bit with the music and the cast names at the bottom 😂 Ken Jeong just acting sketchy near that woman 😂 Dorks and Babes 👏🏽
Fun Fact : The original ending of the movie had Optimus and Megaton teaming up, then honoring a truce between the Autobots and Decepticons. The Decepticons and Megaton were to head back to Cybertron and repair it while Optimus and the Autobots would remain on earth, creating a new home for themselves. I much prefer that ending over what we got. Of course with Earth being Unicorn it wouldn't make too much sense...
I fell like the opposite of “Transformers” would be something like “Raising Arizona”. It is kind of a different movie for Nicolas Cage. I am not even sure he yells in it at any point.
I feel like in Michael Bay's mind he thinks his movies are like Coen brothers films with action. Which is probably why he keeps casting from their talent pool.
*2001: A Space Odyssey* invented the "set on hydraulics" schtick. They used it for those scenes where the space stewardesses walk up the walls with their velcro shoes. It's really just the whole set rotating. This is not a new thing.
Nah, centrifuge movie sets are older than that. They used one in Royal Wedding in the early 50s to have Fred Astaire dance around on the wall and ceiling of a room.
The oldest one I've seen is Buster Keaton's "The Boat" from 1921, but apparently Victor Flemyng did it in 1919's "When the Clouds Roll By." So this schtick is literally more than a hundred years old.
When that happened, I was just like “You ok buddy? Need a therapist? I mean, your head doctor (iS tHaT a JoJo ReFeReNcE!?) just died ”. Taking into account the story of how Peter Cullen created the voice for Optimus, the Bayformer’s movies are a real punch to the gut for the character of Optimus Prime.
You’re probably gonna upset a lot of people since this is apparently one of their favourites (how?!), and I’m absolutely here for it. Looking forward to strolling through what will no doubt be an incredibly respectful and tolerant comment section tomorrow.
Absolutely. I like how they went from the Transformers 1 vid saying "2 I remember as the worst" then on the video on Transformers 2 they say "aaaactually, it rly isn't". With 3 it was the start of the end for me. When Mark fucken Wahlberg came for 4 it was all completely dead atp. With Ironhide's death (which they didn't even talk about??) came the death of the franchise imo.
It's definitely the best in the Franchise the last 40 mins was pure action and the main villain was a badass and sure the story wasn't the best but I don't go to a transformers movie for masterful story telling I go for a bit of fun action packed entertainment and that it definitely delivers on.
@@TFDOTM Bruh the final action in T3 is one of the worst actions in Transformers movies. Beats Sam "killing" Megatron with the cube from the 1st movie, where there was little to no action.
I fell asleep for a hot minute during the last battle when i went to see it at the cinema. What's messed up was that 1) when I woke up it was still going on & 2) i distinctly remember not giving a damn about who won or who lost. it was just a loud, frantic mess.
Why would you go to a transformers movie if not for the action?me personally go for some fun ACTION packed entertainment I don't go into a transformers movie expecting a masterful story because at the end the whole premise of transformers is about good robots Vs bad robots fighting
Bob Sandwich yeah I know that is an good evil franchise but bay treated transformers only like robots not as characters and there are so many wrong things with them
@@kbs8681 shows how much inspiration the Transformers movies have had in the industry. We would probably not have an MCU without the first transformers, who showed how well you could blend in special effects with humans and practical. Jon Favreau has said that himself.
The most unrealistic thing in this movie isn’t giant space robots that transform into other objects, oh no... it’s Shia’s character having two, TWO complete smoke shows (10’s) as girlfriends.
I accidentally edited out the bit where we mention Leonard Nimoy being the voice of Galvatron/Sentinal. So Ben put in a picture of him along with the on screen text "Leonard Nimoy". We know is what I'm saying.
I say skip the palette cleanser and push on through until you're as insane as the rest of us!
You guys should do HER (2013), it’s wholesome almost saccharine film, but set in a future that’s nearly dystopian with the way people are connected with their devices. And literally love the AI.
But did you know that the moon is actually made of cheese 🧀
Btw longtime fan of the show at least since 2016.
Leonard Nimoy was genuinely really great in this movie ngl
I like how they repeatedly say “Patrick Dempsey, the actor, is in league with the Decepticons.” Not his character, but Patrick Dempsey himself is allied with the Decepticons
I mean both him and his character are into the car world soooooooooo
The movie would have been better if Patrick Dempsey had been playing himself tbh
Wait, are you implying he isn't in league with the Decepticons?
Similarly Willem Dafoe, the actor, hates Spiderman with every ounce of his being
Well I mean the actor Patrick Dempsey is in league with the decepticons
"Be strong enough to be gentle."
- Peter Cullen, quoting his war veteran brother regarding what it is to be a hero, and what inspired his voice for Optimus
"GIVE ME YOUR FACE!"
"YOU DIE! YAARGGH!"
- Bayverse Optimus Prime
"Optimus! No!"
*boom* shoots a person begging for his life
It's these things that make me so angry these movies have a fan base.
@@blyzer7373 Sentinel Prime murdered Ironhide though, so he deserved what he got.
Fuzzy Barbarian or how about “KILL THEM ALL”
These movies have been literally a telling of Optimus’ slow gradual mental degradation, from a revered leader to a big hunk of homicidal psycopath
They didn’t mention the “Deep Wang” scene, and I’m frankly heartbroken
Nothing is going to top "the whole plate" scene.
My man whipped out dual pistols 😂
Same
Wasn’t the girlfriend a fucking robot in this? Because they never mentioned that either.
@Filip Gasic OmG! How silly of me...these movies do kinda blend together though. Still how do you never mention robot girl!
New suggested name for Golden Bay Time: "Baylight Savings Time", because you think it's done, and then you get an extra hour.
THIS TIMES A MILLION LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE
Oh that’s fucking FUNNY
Give this man a raise!
*wheeze*
Gold
Let's not forget when Optimus Prime walks up and just says " We will kill them all."
That was actually my favorite line, cause I was sick of their shit too. Burn it down.
That was beast af
That line made me nut
I actually thought that was pretty badass
Optimus being Peaceful after the Decepticons betrayed murdered and destroyed an entire city murdering Millions is just ignorant. You GWunners need to realize this isn’t an 80’s toy commercial lol ROTF give me your face was outta pocket tho
The funniest thing in this movie was Sam kicking in his car engine
Right
He kicks that shit faster than Barry Allen fucking up timelines
And when wang kept sayin “deep wang” 😂😂
This the best one by far
Died at that
Please make the Beast Wars reference every time someone says "we're gonna die" in any movie going forward. Any movie.
I've long wanted you guys to tackle the 1994, live action Flintstones movie. So if you need a palette cleanser, that's a pretty good one.
Hell Yeah
That's pretty much the exact opposite of a transformers movie
Geeez this is a good idea
This would be fantastic because James HATES Hannah Barbera cartoons
ltm438 this made me laugh out loud
"Why's he wearing a cloak?"
So he doesn't get recognized, duh
🤔🤯🤣
Guy in desert: is that Megatron?
Other guy: nah, just some other robot in the desert all alone looking suspicious.
Guy: sounds legit
They don't call em RoBoTs iN diSgUiSe for nothing!
To hide his shameful battle damage.
Same way Ultra Magnus does
16:03 Michael Bay looking at his abs and saying "What if they were a big robot snake?" is somehow the most accurate thing I've heard about Michael Bay.
The return of the Rattrap Beast Wars reference was hilarious.
his iconic catchphrase "we're all gonna die"
"We will kill them all."
- Optimus Prime, Hero
“Give me your face”
-also Optimus Prime, Hero
"NO OPTIMUS!"
- A defenceless transformer begging for his life, moments before Optimus Prime brutally executes him wish a shotgun to the back of the head at point-blank range.
Frank Castle: Don't you think that's a bit harsh?
Transformers: The Line
If you ever have trouble realizing how terrible Optimus is just replace him with someone like Captain America brutally murdering people by shooting them in the back of their head and ripping their head still attached to their spine with an axe, predator style.
In regards to what's said at 15:23 it's even more heartbreaking to see how horribly Optimus is written when you hear Peter Cullen talk about how he got the role. He based the voice on his brother who served in the army and it was his brother's advice to play the character as sincere and gentle rather than tough and macho. You should defiantly look up the clip. I also had the chance to meet him at a comic con and he is the absolute nicest guy, very reserved but warm and friendly. All of this just makes me hate the live action movies more. F*ck Michael Bay.
I particularly enjoyed Optimus Prime ripping out Sentinel's spine as he begs for mercy. Truly heroic stuff!
He...he just shoots him...what movie did you watch????
@@Soniman001 i think he got megatron and sentinel mixed up 🤣😂
@@urbanshorty1670 that and 100 people that liked the comment apparently
You got your names mixed up
@@Soniman001 i think it was just a joke.
Thank you for mentioning Optimus Prime being tangled in the cables when he has flaming blades in his arms this has bothered me for years.
Someday, a “Tiger King”-style documentary is going to be made about Michael Bay’s absolute madness and it’s going to show us a lot about ourselves.
Most likely it will be his part, and others like him involved in the sex trafficking and pedophilia in Hollywood. So, yeah. Close.
As with most things in Hollywood, the most reasonable explanation for anything is mountains of cocaine.
@@noplace4akitty047 There probably are a lot of pedos in Hollywood, but you can't say they all are
This is the ultimate thing I never knew I needed
@@NobleRaider2747 you aren't wrong. I doubt newbies like say, Chris Pratt are that deep in their shit. But after that BS with Tom Hanks, I gave up on ALL of Hollywood. As in trying to defend any of them. We have people left and right being called crazy (Randy Quaid, which at this point he has lost his mind. Sorry man, you didn't deserve this) and ridiculed out of the "circle" because they knew more was going on behind the scenes. I've been in love with cinema my whole life, but I'm perfectly ok with people who I thought were great, going to prison for life. And forgetting they existed.
Please tell me there gonna continue the “we’re gonna die” running joke for all these movies XD
I was an extra in this one. The studio liked to use real soldiers to play the roles. They even paid us pretty well for our time. I remember everyone being super cool. Except Shia maybe. Had a great time, watched the explosions, ate good food. Best week in the Army ever.
Ik i'm late but did you actually get to wingsuit off a real building?
That's nice to hear :)
@@joaquintorres870 If I recall from some background commentary, they actually did.
"No one's ever tilted a room before"
You guys remember that life-size Titanic replica set made for Cameron's film? Half that whole set could tilt and be lowered into a massive tank full of water, and even that wasn't the first to have a tilting room. Tilting sets have been a thing since the 1950's, if not even longer ago than that.
Kubrick inverted a set in the 60's for "2001: a space Odyssey"
Lionel Ritchie danced on a ceiling.
But I think you'll find that Transformers: Darkside of the Moon was the first film to do it
@@thomaswelbourn55 that's true. All the rigging and pulley work was actual film running through there
Buster keaton did it in the 20s
“It’s so hard time have a gay time on your own.” Challenge accepted
Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this
I am utterly baffled.
@@justincoleman3805 I think he meant: "It’s so hard TO have a gay time on your own.” ("Gay" in this case meaning "happy/fun".)
I really wanted an updated "No, no, no" count for each film.
Personally, hearing two maniacal Australians trying to articulate their hatred for these shambolic films sounds like a good video
Fun fact: some scenes of Chicago's wreckage were shot in nearby Gary, Indiana, because Gary, indiana is GENUINELY THAT WRECKED!
Lol I’m from Indiana and yeah it’s not great.
*w h a t ?*
@@charmyzard Yep. It's one of those parts of the USA that is just wrecked because of many factors, mainly economic stagnation and faulty infrastructure.
I read that some of the scenes in Chernobyl were shot in Gary, Indiana. I think it would have been safer to send the actors to the actual Chernobyl.
"I blame Tron: Legacy and Forrest Gump"
That's a phrase I did not know I needed so desperately in my vocabulary
You should watch the 1986 Transformers: The Movie
Thank you guys so much for the likes
Underrated comment!
what a bloody movie👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
They should definitely review it, but it certainly doesn't belong in their caravan of garbage series.
YES PLEASE. OMG I LOVE THAT MOVIE! The soundtrack is absolute fire 🔥🔥🔥
That movie is legendary tho
The opposite of a transformers movie:
My Dinner with Andre
Holy shoot that would be awesome!
Caravan of Garbage: The adventures of Shark Boy and Lava Girl?
Oh please. I need that.
Mmmm
K’pooh 6779 considering we’re getting a sequel I think it’ll be a Caravan Of Garbage someday
Logan Oh my gosh, You’re absolutely right!
A movie purely made for children. A little unfair lol
Honestly, Mason's deep eyes for Mikaela's character is the sole redemption of 2020.
M+M=R
@@loonyleper Watch Lindsey Ellis' "The Whole Plate" videos... Mikaela is the best character in these movies, and I say that as both loving praise, and a vitriolic condemnation of everything else about them.
It must be restated, Starscream looks like a Dorito
That scene where Sam Epps and the soldiers arrive in a destroyed Chicago is still fantastic
The spectacle is genuinely impressive, everything else though 😬
Just like real Chicago.
Michael Bay is really great at spectacle. And he makes the military look really cool, which is why they give him so much access to film them.
He filmed a lot of the real personnel just doing their job in the Scorponok scene in the first one. I guess he told them what the situation was and then just filmed how they would handle it.
And the part with the credit card was a real thing that happened with a soldier during a big gunfight. A soldier told Bay that story, so he just put it in the movie. Lol.
Alex Alexini don’t do that😭
Travis Spazz just the feeling of hopelessness in that scene is amazing
I only watched Dark of the Moon once on blu-ray and I fast forwarded any scene that did not have robots in it. Wasn't awful.
Same
I mainly did that with the first act, but once it hits the first hour when they discovered that the Decepticons knew about the pillars and knew about Sentinel Prime, that's when it gets good
Mike and Jay of Red Letter Media literally only saw half of it for Half in the Bag. Jay saw the first half and Mike saw the 2nd half and it's funny watching them trying to piece it all together.
Antoine Scott this movie doesn’t get good
Talia Mason
those hacks
Throughout this franchise I never got the impression that Optimus was a noble warrior. The only time I got that impression was during Bumblebee
Right? He's like a merciless killing machine in these movies. He's closest in the first movie and Bumblebee, every other movie is all, "GIVE ME YOUR FACE," or, "WE WILL KILL THEM ALL."
Optimus is ruthless monster in the series, what's weird is he begs for mercy when he loses fights but never returns it. The rest of the cast other than Bee are just there to be killed for shock value. The Bay films are so offensive to the value and core of the original series.
@LittleRedRhuari RRR also don't forget in the first movie when they're about to see the coordinates of the cube from the glasses. That whole conversation.
Jazz: what about bumblebee? We can't just leave him to die.
Optimus: he'll die in vain if we don't accomplish our mission. Bumblebee is a brave soldier. This is what he would've wanted.
Ironhide: why are we fighting to save the humans. They're a primitive, violent race.
Optimus: were we so different? They're a young species. They have much to learn. But I've seen goodness in them. Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. You all know there's only one way to end this war. We must destroy the cube. If all else fails, i will unite it with the spark in my chest.
Ratchet: that's suicide. The cube is raw power. It could destroy you both.
Optimus: a necessary sacrifice to bring peace to this planet. We cannot let the humans pay for our mistakes. It's been an honor serving with you all. Autobots, roll out!
There are some other moments too. Generations of war turned him numbed to killing, which makes sense to me.
He was in the first movie, well, besides that time he murdered the minesweeping Decepticon
He was pretty noble in the first movie. Ready to sacrifice himself and his race for sake of everyone else in the universe. But after he killed Bonecrusher, he grew a blood lust....or an energon lust...
Can we please all agree: DOTM score by Steve Jablonsky was the best of the series next to the 1st film
His scores are always badass in these movies
His movie scores of the transformers are some of the best movies scores of all time. No cap! I actually think The Last Knight has the best soundtrack. So many good gems in that.
@@believer4002 You are an intellectual for loving TLK’s score. Absolute best.
@@rajarajanmanoharan yeah how is that score so underappreciated?! I literally get goosebumps every time I listen to it. I don’t know any other movie score that has so many solid tracks after tracks. Album is stellar. unfortunately the movie score got edited in wrong ways or not used rightfully according to an interview with the composer, Steve Jablonsky. He said that the full version of the movie (that he watched before Bay/Paramount shortened the runtime) handled the score as he would have wanted.
@@believer4002 EXACTLY!!!!!!
Your 'character' analysis of Optimus Prime is so on the spot it hurts.
"No one knew who Megan Fox was until I found her"
Except she was in a number of shows before Transformers, many of which were quite mainstream
Something an abuser says to make their victim feel hopeless to getting away from them. "You'd be/have nothing without me. Nobody but me could love someone like you"
Two and half men (2004)
@@jestbone89 one of the greatest pieces of TV ever
@Starscream91 yes
I'm not going to lie I didn't know who she was until transformers
Holy shit, the editing on that The Office parody, that was amazing. I'm assuming Ben did that, but kudos to whoever did it, just in case it -wasn't- him :P
At the end of each video it says who edited it. (in the lower right corner)
It was indeed Ben ;)
@@Zintag ahhh nice. I made the comment during the segment so I hadn't got there yet :3
"She didn't appreciate me for who i am"... why do I feel that line explaining michaela's absence was Bay's personal allegory for why he didnt like Megan Fox?🤣
When talking about the firing of Megan Fox you say There is so much more to this” how dare you not say there is much more than meets the eye??!!
Fun Fact: John Frazier (the Special Effects Supervisor who is shown in this video) also worked on all 3 Raimi Spider-Man films which makes the bit about the building even more baffling!
Funniest scene is Ken Jeong saying “you messed with the wronggg wang today” 😂 whipping out dual pistols, and that little head rotation 🤣 nah I was deadddd
J.O.R.D that man is crazy! still taking his hangover character to Transformers.....thats what i hate about guys with guns more talking than shooting ended up dead
That jimmy kimmel interview is horrible. Jimmy makes a gross joke and she looks clearly over the whole thing
Which one?
@@Commander_Shepard. She was talking about Bay making her wear a bikini and being too young. Jimmy makes a weird comment about how "we all have thosev perv, creep thoughts, but you're supposed to keep them inside"
Bit these two aussies hate bill o reilly.... For some reason. Jimmy kimmel's fine 😂
It’s fantastic how sweaty everyone looked in each of the movies lol
The oversaturated filter is icing on the cake
It's tiring handling all that Bayhem.
It's probably how they looked after watching three of these things in a row.
Everyone looks really greasy.
Its from being next to explosions all day
The point of sentinel prime looking like a firetruck in space was something that i cant believe i didn't notice
Out of all the insane moments in the Transformers franchise Optimus Prime executing a old man begging for his life with a shotgun in broad daylight on a Chicago bridge is certainly one of them.
This movie is SO fucking violent.
“I’ll kill you.”-Optimus Prime
@@johngreen8921 "Give me your face, arrgh."-Optimus Prime.
@@scumspawn666 As someone who has no attachment to the Transformers franchise, I love that he did that. The Autobots being war criminals makes the movie a whole lot funnier.
people always leave out the part that the "old man begging for his life" just executed an entire invasion of chicago, killing half the population and held a giant box cutter knife to optimus's neck many, many times. 100% deserved
@@shydun It's still weird to put multiple public executions in your Transformers movie.
And yes it is multiple. I forgot to mention the moment where the Autobots are rounded up and one of them looks at Bumblebee and frightfully says, "I think they're going to kill us Bee"
I've never related to something more then the 'Golden Bay time' of this movie. That time stamp was spot on... An hour and a half left, my god.
I'd say TF4 goes even beyond, when you think the film is over, it goes on for more 40 minutes.
The opposite of a Transformers movie? PADDINGTON.
omg i hope they do Paddington 2 as well
Great suggestion!
@@Christian-nn8dz It's just so damn wholesome and nice
I am so on board with this!!
This is the winner.
I always thought it would of been a great character moment for Sam to realize that he’s unhappy with his life and job because he doesn’t feel like he’s making a difference anymore, and him realizing that fighting off aliens and being a hero is his true calling.
Sounds like a war propaganda to me.
Sounded more like he was jealous that he isn't as recognized for his role in saving the world as he hoped to be. In the 2nd film he told Bumblebee to leave him be while in college, but here he complains Bee doesn't visit him anymore.
Kyle Gmerek well yeah i thought.. hypothetically of course since michael bay just did what he does, anyhow, in the first two movies he wants nothing to do with Transformers but here I thought it was leaning towards when he finally got what he basically wanted it wasn’t enough and being a hero is what he’s really about, but none of that happened so who cares really, but imagine a transformers 4 and 5 where sam has fully embraced a hero role and what not, just more interesting through line for his story
What I liked about this is it felt like it built on Sam’s statistical uselessness in a self-aware way. The Decepticons didn’t get caught by Sam, they wanted him to find out about the space bridge because they needed Optimus to revive Sentinel in order to use it. They pretended to hide and use humans to try and cover up the moon thing so that Sam would dig into it. As Bayverse Decepticon plots go, this one is actually pretty involved.
One of my favourite reviews for this film describes the plot line where the moon landings was all due to transformers on the moon as wit in Michael Bay's world. It’s brilliant because it admits it’s silly but for Michael Bay it is clever.
10:01 So, the Australians are wrong here. This comment should be higher.
@@Mecharnie_Dobbs this comment is not too late to be appreciated 😊
Megan's statement I thought was really moving, she addressed the obvious problems with Bay but she saw past that to the awkward insecure child man who likes making movies and noted his better qualities. She's a good person but they fired her anyway, screw Spielberg and Bay.
Except where she compared him to Hitler. Oops.
She insulted a higher up. Doesn't matter where you work at, if you insult your boss you're probably getting hired. It was a dumb statement to make.
@dflowers30 this is how lies get spread. Her husband or ex husband himself said in an interview she didn’t cheat on him.
Hitler...
They fired her for comparing her boss to hitler, nothing else.
And he's her boss first & friend second.
When you call your boss Hitler, you get fired. Simple as that. Nothing else to say. I'm sure she agrees with that now, if you would ask her.
When are we going to be blessed by a Caravan of Garbage about the Hobbit trilogy?
Probably when the grief has subsided - besides, we had Lindsay Ellis's unexpected trilogy.
Once there's a trailer for the new and totally unnecessary LOTR Amazon series. Gotta keep on top of the trends
@@nicoolio_gp I disagree, I've always been more interested in the Second Age part of the Silmarillion than the main part itself.
@@chrischiu-tabet9462 Lindsay gave us the details and context, but we need some one to help us just laugh at them.
And if they decide to actually do The Hobbit trilogy, they should watch the extended versions as well
One positive I can give these movies is that they give obscure Transformers villans a spotlight. The Fallen and Sentinal were unknown to everyone but very hardcore fans before the movies, and now they're well known characters
Was the Fallen the one that looked like a giant grey walking scrapyard or was that Sentinal?
@@McSuperfly101 sentinel was red, you colorblind idiot.
Lockdown too!
Is that a bad thing ?
Optimus gained more respect bc of the movies
Put some respect on his name smh
@@XVNRX "gained" respect? Was that before or after he started executing transformers beging for their lives and treatening that he will kill all of the humans.
Ken Jeong in this movie was f*cking brilliant: "Deep. Wang. Deep... Wang."
will_ da_man_ and Alan Tudyk
Shia Labeouf series? you could do "disturbia" "Eagle Eye" a lot of unique movies there.
Honeyboy
@@logd27 perfect example
Nymphomaniac: Vol. 1 & 2
The battle of shaker heights.
Holes.
Even Steven
I like what they did with Starscream in the Prime cartoon. Cause in the movies there’s literally no reason for him to be the “cowardly backstabber” archetype cause he’s literally the size of a fighter jet and covered in saw blades. But in Prime he’s only that horrible metal giant to the humans and to other transformers he’s this weedy, snivelling has-been, who has sharp nails and some rockets when they all have death tentacles and webshooters and fusion cannons. The most damage he ever does is to people who are already injured or dying. He’s more competent than movie starscream but NOBODY takes him seriously, I love it.
The 2020 “Underwater“ movie
it has Kristen Stewart in it, and isn’t half bad, not half great, but not half bad
That's almost my exact thought after watching it.
Literally my opinion on it Lol
Anyone saying "that was literally my opinion too," shouldn't be surprised. All of ghat can be summed up to, a mediocre blockbuster
Also, big twist near the end
The twist at the end makes the movie for me
Why do I feel like I've watched this film, yet I can't remember 95% of these scenes shown. I honestly feel like I'm going mad.
Same. I had to look up to see if I had actually seen this one. And even though I have I remember so little of it.
Same.
Yeah. I forgot alot of this movie.
That’s the power of bayham
Lots of people feel that way. I’ve seen this movie but don’t remember most of it. Probably because it’s 2 hours too long and not much story happens. All the explosions and action scenes blend together. The mind craves having diversity in stimulations. So a good action film can balance good storytelling with action sequences that are short but memorable. This film? It’s just 2 hours of explosions happening back to back with nothing in the story or pacing to set them apart and make them memorable.
Also National Treasure 1 and 2 have zero transformations. Please cover them
Why the heck you guys don't have a video about Tank Girl?!?!? Is it because she's half girl, half tank? Are you some kind of tanksists?!?!?!
I just wanted to point out that if you look closely, Sentinel Prime has a Cybertronian alternate-form when on the Moon / at Nest. He is maroon with spots of gold on him and has all smooth surfaces. He has metal wheels on him where he has tires later on. The wings on his back and windows on his chest don't make full-sense in those scenes. I think the CGI animators were just lazy with Sentinel's Cybertronian form. Optimus Prime's Cybertronian form in Bumblebee 2018 is even worse than this. He just has different wheels, no windshield-wipers and different exhaust pipes on his shoulders.
Do Lilo & Stitch as your off-week movie!
Emperor's New Groove is actually a little more interesting.
That films development is just a shit show and I'd love to hear their take on it.
They can’t because it needs boring humans in it lol. And lilo is anything but boring
The stitch trilogy is infinitely better than transformers
LILO and stitch is the best
I say add to the insanity. Watch the next 2 and then you can reward yourselves with the opening 15 minutes of bumblebee
3 was personal my favorite cause the action and darker tone
Your mom hates you
It’s definitely an improvement from the second...kinda
@@buzzfeedteal4775 so does yours 😊
Mine too bro. I legit like this one
Get out of here 😂
The opposite of Transformers? My suggestion is Blue Is the Warmest Colour.
The only thing it has in common is that it has humans in relationships.
One of the few film reviews the critics actually defend Megan Fox. You get a like just for that 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
"You die, Corn of Coblin! Heurgh!" -Optimus Prime
I remember watching this as a kid and thinking “why has Michaela dyed her hair”
I was like what happened to Michaela ?! Why she is not with him? I never belived that she somehow droped him
Please push through. Id love to see your thoughts on age of extinction especially
5:15 "The opening of this movie is surprisingly sparse... and you can tell what's going on." I'm surprised you guys didn't remember the reason for this: 3D. This came out in the aftermath of Avatar, when all studios were trying to get that 3D money (till the fad mercifully did out.) At the time, Transformers 3 was hyped as being the ultimate 3D experience ever created, and like Avatar, it was actually filmed with 3D cameras instead of just being converted in post like most other early 10's films. I remember seeing some featurette where Bay talks about consulting with James Cameron, and one of his tips was to tone down the erratic camera work because it doesn't play well in 3D. Bay at least tried to do this in the opening. 3D might have factored into the janky JFK FX too.
One of my favorite bits is when Carly listens in on Megatron and Sentinels conversation/argument through the telescope.
The Big Lebowski maybe, you still get the John Turturro quota.
Oh brother where for art thou for a bigger fix
Wanna watch a movie with normal humans doing normal human things? Watch what we do in the shadows
Zackery Bennett or norsemen
I remember being so hyped for this movie to the point that we travelled to a country where it released early.
Slept through half the thing.
18:35 Are we just going to not talk about how that is CallMeCarson's face.
That is exactly how I felt, for Transformers 4. I was having a HARD time getting into these new characters, but they FINALLY started growing on me, and there was a point where Dad saved the daughter, and I decided that the movie was actually worthwhile. HOWEVER, I suddenly realized that there weren't even any Dinobots yet. I suddenly became conscious of the time & realized that what I had seen couldn't possibly have been the finale. From that point on, I couldn't help but wonder how much time was elapsing? I started the movie during the day, but it was likely dark outside. I couldn't believe how long the film was & how long it felt.
Upon rewatch i have to say that my favourite thing about this movie is the fact that the building the Decepticons use as a part of their evil master plan is Trump Tower
Wait really? That’s hilarious
hmm
That's aged well.
Ha.
Maybe this means somethimg... Hmmm... 🤔
Poetic
I wonder if LaBeouf's character could be considered a Bay self-insert.
An idiot just stumbling around and somehow being successful?
Yeah, that lines up.
Absolutely, he’s supposed to be likable in a way that bay thinks of himself as likable
I thought Sam was supposed to be what Bay thinks of his average viewer
I thought Sam was just Shia being himself. He was showing us his crazy side years before he went batshit with HWNDU.
Lindsay Elles taught me that the funny thing is that *Michael*-a *Bay*-nes was the real hero and apparently the genderbent self insert. Though if Sam is supposed to represent his normal off set self then I must give credit for self awareness and self deprecation.
I was dying at that whole office sitcom bit with the music and the cast names at the bottom 😂 Ken Jeong just acting sketchy near that woman 😂 Dorks and Babes 👏🏽
Fun Fact :
The original ending of the movie had Optimus and Megaton teaming up, then honoring a truce between the Autobots and Decepticons. The Decepticons and Megaton were to head back to Cybertron and repair it while Optimus and the Autobots would remain on earth, creating a new home for themselves.
I much prefer that ending over what we got.
Of course with Earth being Unicorn it wouldn't make too much sense...
A perfect palate cleanser would be a Wes Anderson movie.
Pirates of the Caribbean would be lit
I fell like the opposite of “Transformers” would be something like “Raising Arizona”. It is kind of a different movie for Nicolas Cage. I am not even sure he yells in it at any point.
I feel like in Michael Bay's mind he thinks his movies are like Coen brothers films with action. Which is probably why he keeps casting from their talent pool.
*2001: A Space Odyssey* invented the "set on hydraulics" schtick. They used it for those scenes where the space stewardesses walk up the walls with their velcro shoes. It's really just the whole set rotating. This is not a new thing.
Nah, centrifuge movie sets are older than that. They used one in Royal Wedding in the early 50s to have Fred Astaire dance around on the wall and ceiling of a room.
The oldest one I've seen is Buster Keaton's "The Boat" from 1921, but apparently Victor Flemyng did it in 1919's "When the Clouds Roll By." So this schtick is literally more than a hundred years old.
We should differentiate between a large floor that tips up, and a set contained within a rotating framework.
So basically it'd be like Steve Jobs saying phones had never been used before the iphone🙄
I’ll never forget the chills I got when optimus pulled up and said “well kill them all”
When that happened, I was just like “You ok buddy? Need a therapist? I mean, your head doctor (iS tHaT a JoJo ReFeReNcE!?) just died ”. Taking into account the story of how Peter Cullen created the voice for Optimus, the Bayformer’s movies are a real punch to the gut for the character of Optimus Prime.
Perhaps the real Transformers: Dark of the Moon are the friends we made along the way.
I only found your channel this week and my goodness I already enjoy it immensely
Thanks George glad you’re here!
It's a travesty Megan Fox wasn't replaced with someone that could actually act..
like Michael Joseph Jackson
Mich...who now?!
@@elbaecc He appeared in Michael Bay's "The Office"
Factual
Honestly, Rosie's butt should have won best supporting actress.
This is my favorite Michael Bay Transformers movie, but only really when the robots are on screen
Couldn’t agree more
Same honestly
I genuinely really like this film
Facts. Imo. Best transformers movie
They should watch the episode of community where abed does it
"Where's the class? Where's the civility?"
Uh, you do know this is a Michael Bay movie, right? Class and civility don't exist in his movies.
They literally tilted a room in high school musical 3 lmao
Also I recommend Lucky Number Slevin
Glad I'm not the only one who thought of HSM 3
Haha me too
Before I’ve seen the video: I actually enjoy this movie
Same!
You’re probably gonna upset a lot of people since this is apparently one of their favourites (how?!), and I’m absolutely here for it. Looking forward to strolling through what will no doubt be an incredibly respectful and tolerant comment section tomorrow.
buckle up
Absolutely. I like how they went from the Transformers 1 vid saying "2 I remember as the worst" then on the video on Transformers 2 they say "aaaactually, it rly isn't". With 3 it was the start of the end for me. When Mark fucken Wahlberg came for 4 it was all completely dead atp.
With Ironhide's death (which they didn't even talk about??) came the death of the franchise imo.
It's definitely the best in the Franchise the last 40 mins was pure action and the main villain was a badass and sure the story wasn't the best but I don't go to a transformers movie for masterful story telling I go for a bit of fun action packed entertainment and that it definitely delivers on.
@@TFDOTM Bruh the final action in T3 is one of the worst actions in Transformers movies. Beats Sam "killing" Megatron with the cube from the 1st movie, where there was little to no action.
Ivan Sharkov have you seen the fourth? That has mostly atrocious action.
The title "Dark of the Moon" still makes me question my command of the English language
I fell asleep for a hot minute during the last battle when i went to see it at the cinema. What's messed up was that 1) when I woke up it was still going on & 2) i distinctly remember not giving a damn about who won or who lost. it was just a loud, frantic mess.
Why would you go to a transformers movie if not for the action?me personally go for some fun ACTION packed entertainment I don't go into a transformers movie expecting a masterful story because at the end the whole premise of transformers is about good robots Vs bad robots fighting
TFDOTM 2011 obviously you don’t know transformers well or haven’t read the comics because that’s not what only transformers is about
@@soundwavesuperior5596 yeah. But it pretty much is good robots vs bad robots
Bob Sandwich yeah I know that is an good evil franchise but bay treated transformers only like robots not as characters and there are so many wrong things with them
This is the best Transformers movie. It also has the same 3rd act as The Avengers.
Other way around
@@kbs8681 no, Dark of the Moon came out before Avengers 1
@@vickerandflips8061 yeah exactly, so Avengers has the same 3rd act as Dark Of The Moon .
@@kbs8681 shows how much inspiration the Transformers movies have had in the industry. We would probably not have an MCU without the first transformers, who showed how well you could blend in special effects with humans and practical. Jon Favreau has said that himself.
@@believer4002 we need to be friends
The most unrealistic thing in this movie isn’t giant space robots that transform into other objects, oh no... it’s Shia’s character having two, TWO complete smoke shows (10’s) as girlfriends.
fr even Sams mom mentions it in the movie lol
I never noticed that JFK was done in cgi, I actually thought he was an actor.
Same when I first saw it
@Jaden LaFrance It's like Clu in Tron Legacy. When I saw it as a teen, I thought he had a weird face, but didn't think it was de-aged Jeff Bridges
Please do Pain & Gain between Transformers 3 and 4! That's what Michael Bay did.
That's a good movie
He does good stuff to y’all seen black sails
I hope they continue this until the good one arrives
This was the second best.
Which one is the good one?
@@brabbit330 Bumblebee
I have seen this movie 2 times, and both times I’ve fallen asleep.
Best part of this movie is when sentinel quotes Leonard nimoy