@@Broguerwashere EVERYBODY worth a damn is on steroids in the NBA. Their "tests" are a joke and totally a fraud. Say what you will about FIFA but they do not let it slide. Its much MUCH harder to take PEDs in soccer. Its outright impossible due to rigorous testings.
I’ve used steroids (synthetic testosterone). I’ve obtained them legally and illegally. Yes most people/fans are ignorant about steroids. They think they’re only used to put on muscle. The truth is they help you do ANYTHING that’s athletic. Jumping higher and running faster is just the tip of the iceberg. The endurance and strength benefits are huge. I believe Lebron and others have been taking them for years. It’s not right. Steroids are still under the radar somehow in the nba. Therefore it’s a dirty league in my opinion.
I also took steroids for years and played sports my entire life. Steroids DO NOT make you a better athlete. They help you RECOVER much more quickly and get stronger. They don’t make you a better hitter or better 3 -point shooter. No one was ever rushing to sign Arnold Schwarzenegger to a professional contract.
That’s why I’m sayin bro is still playing a elite level for his whole career and has one of the most played and minutes in nba history😂 his body has to most diff gotta be beat up
I was lmao 🤣 loud when read your comment 😆 🤣...Just look at NBA reference during 2014-15 season the first 2months at LBJ numbers before that 2week vacation back to Miami were allot of MLB players were going then got in trouble eventually lol
today its so hard to have a reference what really is possible while being natural. so many athletes and fitness guys and trainers and influencers and everybody in these fields could all be on peds because they make there living that way. its rare to find a honest person
This is very true, many people still don't want to believe it but I'll give you one more obvious example. In 1988 sprinter Ben Johnson was tested positive for stanozolol and subsequently disqualified he ran 9,79. Now stanozolol is better known as winstrol, quite a powerful anabolic steroid. In 2009 Ussain Bolt ran 9,58 and nobody bats an eye, people are accepting that he was 0,21 sec faster than Johnson on steroids and this is freakishly more, not tiny by any stretch in 100m race! So he was faster than Ben Johnson on steroids by an amazing amount and people accept that he was natural. It's silly... Just to mention I have nothing against Bolt, I'm a fan actually, but I'm just sorry Johnson ended up the way he did although he didn't do anything out of the norm...
Great video. Well edited, well detailed, and entertaining. The description is worth reading as well for those that haven't. I'm glad videos like these and Clarence Kennedy's "Anti-Doping" videos are starting to pop up more here. Too many people are ignorant to the likelihood of their favorite top athlete being on some form of PEDs. Which is very likely of course.
@@Eustazzio Steph is definitely on something. No one in their mid 30s can naturally maintain that much muscle mass and aerobic capacity at the same time. His muscles are literally bigger than when he was in his prime.
For instance, there was this one player who was supposed to take his daily supplement but instead took his wife's pregnancy pills by mistake. They found it in the drug test and suspended him for 18 months regardless.
This kind of made me feel a little disappointed in today’s NBA. I don’t know how to explain it but it made me feel weird. It makes it seem so disgraceful especially since this is the generation of basketball that I grew watching and people who used look up to.
I was wanting to do a video about professional athletes so I’m glad someone else already did it and with exceptional quality. Thank you for making this.
Do one ☝️ , it would be even more interesting to get others perspectives with research and information , you yourself may have come across info. that others may or may not come across , and have some sort of key to get the information across..? There’s always room for more perspective esp. if it’s “actual and factual “ lol 😆 “ build it and they will come “ true facts brother 🙏
Everyone knows lebron is on steroids. Remember when he couldn't even dunk an lost like 15 pounds when he first went back to Cleveland so then he took a vacation during the season an went back to Miami. Yeah I suprised nobody found that wierd
You also don’t think it’s weird that he barely misses any games has one the most minutes and playing time in nba history and been and still been playing at an elite level
@@omarthechosen_1692 Well thats because his body is just that gifted? Then yall will not gonna say a word about Jordan when he played 82 games a season will full postseason games for years
@@notbeforemay5th lots of players in the past played at least 75 games. It's unusual because nowadays older players are playing a lot of minutes, so obviously PEDs are involved.
This is a pretty fair take on it, you’re pointing out the benefits and likelihood of significant PED usage without casting judgement on the players. The NBA/NFL/etc. are very small clubs with very large benefits. The motivation for the marginal players is even higher than for the superstars, and I imagine once you start it would be very hard to stop for fear of not maintaining your performance level- especially if you know there are a lot of others players who are/may be using PED’s too. I think it would be easier to have a constructive policy that promotes level playing fields if we take out the moral judgement. If even 40-50% of a given sports players are using or have used PED’s, it’s not productive to cast stones at a guy who is just trying to keep up, maybe recover from serious injury, or extend his career and livelihood as long as possible.
That's a very good video, obviously doping is rife in all sports, the Nba is one of the biggest and richest leagues in the world with very inadequate antidoping policies compared to the potential PED use in such a physically demanding sport. Unfortunately though, doping doesn't create a level playing field, everyone is affected differently by it and you can't possibly believe that every player would have the same access to advanced doping programs, just like LA and US Postal had a far more efficient program compared to guys from Professional Continental teams.
@@SwishTalk1 how the hell is head still above the rim? Like I was talking to my co workers about this yesterday Kobe who was a highflier had knee issues Vince had knee issues but lebron who has dunked more than both of them and is also heavier never has had any kneee issues?
Awesome Video Tristan. There are times where I train MMA and want to leave it all out on the mats. It gets hard to perform your best with so many factors in play. Muscle soreness, sleep, food, injuries, and mental fatigue. Of course the pros are cut from a different cloth, and have years of training under their belt. To what extent do you think that PEDs play a role in their performance?
Ay, what up, Eshrak! In MMA, there have been many cases of fighters getting caught for PEDs. The most recent one we can all recall was Adesanya's gyno against Costa. Gyno happens naturally during puberty when our hormones are still developing. They don't happen to us as adults unless💉 ... I believe Izzy used some form of anabolic steroid because Costa had a muscular size advantage over him. I'm not an expert in fighting, but knowing Adesanya, he's one of the best strikers in the UFC. If he added maybe 3-5lbs of lean muscle during his cycle, I think his strikes would have definitely done more damage on his opponent
@@SwishTalk1 Don't make absolute statements when you don't have accurate information. Adult onset gynecomastia is quite common and not necessarily tied to anabolic usage. Doesn't mean Adesanya's gyno wasn't from steroids, but your statement is patently false.
LeBron has been on steroids his entire career. Notice how no one wants to discuss or address this...notice how it's not until a players career is over and the money has been made that this becomes a problem. LeBron should be banned from the hall of fame and all of his records stripped. This isn't right for so many reasons. Take a good look at the goat Michael Jordan and his teammate Scottie Pippen...the guys were rail thin when they came into the league...some of the skinniest guys to ever play...half way into their careers and up until the end they were the most built and shredded. Peep that
As an MJ fan, completely agree. The 90s saw an influx of steroids into professional sports, including boxing, NBA and baseball. Everybody got bigger in every sport.
@@MrOneanddone91 when you look at Jordan and Scottie Pippen when they were in college...it's night and day. Two of the skinniest guys ever became the most shredded in the league. David Robinson...but I mean...if you're in the gym 24/7 and playing ball regularly and have a team feeding you and rehabilitating you and the whole 9 it could be possible but ...I personally don't believe it's humanly possible when natural to play pro sports day in and day out at the highest levels without injury and all of that. We can speculate on the guys from the 90's NBA...but when it comes to LeBron it's a slam dunk and he's cheating.
Dwayne wades jaw started mutating, lebron goes to Miami, boom a big dude becomes an even bigger scarier monster, jimmy butlers shoulders doubled in size and became so much more vascular after the Miami trade, bam was named a top 5 strongest player by Duncan Robinson (his teammate so maybe biased) but dang Miami gotta have something going on imo, oh and CBs blood clots, Miami just screams suspicion
Also remember that finals where Wade couldn’t even run or do a layup because of his knees in Miami? He left the game and was expected to not come back. Out of nowhere he comes out of the locker room running and catching lobs immediately. I remember watching that game like wtf is this?? Bro couldn’t even run and elevate minutes prior and he goes to the locker room and becomes superman. That was the turning point in that series.
@@highdeff17 Yeah. That was a cortizone shot. Anabolic steroids don't have that effect 5 minutes after injection. But Dwayne Wade was definitely on anabolic steroids, regardless.
yes, more videos like this need to be made, more discussions. anyone who's switched on knows what goes down in high remuneration sports. the whole thing is just disgraceful - worst kind of hypocrisy. we all know many pro athletes actors etc who obviously use steroids and other "illegal" performance enhancing drugs. if this can't be stopped, why not just let it out in the open? change the regulations and make these drugs legal. then anyone will be aware what goes down. it's all that lying and hypocricy that really bugs the hell out of me. but then again, I guess that's the world we live in, right? everybody extols the value of truth while lying and cheating out their faces. everyone says how much they appreciate the truth but when someone's truthful to them they don't like it - they'd rather listen to the people that tell them what they want to hear. after 3 thousand years of human history, we are simply becoming more and more hypocritical while mistaking our technological advances for "civilization"
I said Lance Armstrong was clearly on gear way before he was caught and I was called a lazy scumbag. It was so obvious. Imo were asking these athletes to do inhuman things with a normal hormone profile, its silly. Id argue its safer for them to take gear than not to. Giannias is basically saying, look at me, im on the hot sauce and you can't stop me.
Personally I think it's fine for players taking these substances, here's the thing we tend to forget. In this age we're living in an high demanding society, people want to a team's super star at least 3 times a week, there are more games being played and the schedule is packed, on top of that like u mentioned in the video, there's traveling and practice we didn't even consider. People don't understand that this type of schedule is body destroying. If you're taking these substances to keep your body from breaking down, I think it's fine
Bro, when u allow players to take steroids, that basically kills the ability of a natural athlete to succeed, which is morally wrong cuz plenty of people cant take steroids for health, religious, or personal reasons. Its not about weather steroids are good for athletes to take, off they are! You dont allow steroids so people dont have to take them in order to be a professional athlete
@@johanneswahlig4553 Yes and no. I think you are thinking more of those old school/early 2000s bodybuilders who go on some bullshit balls to the wall program. Nowadays with medical science advancements, you can basically eliminate most side effects and have no visual disfiguring whilst maximizing performance and reducing recovery time.
It is crazy to me all the comments on how these guys bodys changed from early on to 25ish and they had to use PEDs. I do think many athletes are on steriods, especially as they get past 30. But you take an athletic 18 year old man and put them through top fitness, diet and legal supplements for even a year, you will see amazing growth. Do it for 4 and it will be extreme. I played D3 football for 4 years. Came in at 190 benching about 300 and by Senior year hit 400. Vert, 40 and everything else got much better with the size. I can tell you our offseason work was brutal and consistant. We all worked our ass off and the stakes weren't high enough to take steriods....and NCAA did rendom tests on us. Not one player out of about 150 ever failed a random drug test. I could see Gnainis transformation being possible...he has access to all the best and did not prior to the NBA. Men aren't physically mature at 18....more like 25. It can be done. Again I'm not saying he was natural, but his work ethic is said to be unreal so it is very possible. Now I will say these guys still competing at the highest level after 35, at least if it is still mostly on their crazy athleticism, seems highly unlikely. But don't just assume a guy can't transform in his early career on hard work and proper nutrition. Some people do win thr genetic lottery after all.
There's no doubt in my mind nba players are on it. Imagen from the time your a kid to your mid 30s your basically playing basketball competitively every day essentially. Your body has to start breaking down at some point
outstanding job, factual, accurate, although you assumptions are just that I agree with you, I think your 1/2 life computations are incorrect, aside from that, great job !
DwightHoward was obviously juicing in 07-10.... His shoulders were wide AF 😂 ... LeBron in Miami was literally like 270 pds jumping higher than ever.. 😂
@@tolufoodiesland3368 nahhhh, I’ve seen Giannis every season he played. Literally he would gain the smallest amount of weight over the seasons, but the out of nowhere after one offseason like 2 years ago he was WAAAAY bigger. He also has been having much more behavioral problems and issues in the league. Anyone knows that PED’s and Steroid use affects mood and certain people become more irritable and rage induced. Giannis, Dwight Howard, Bron, Andre Iguodala are a few amongst the many that are on some shit.
@@highdeff17 I just Searched about his Transformation, he didn't gain the majority of his muscle in one Year 2017 to 2018 was probably the biggest jump not to big to say he uses Steroids 🙄
i do agree to your point but what goes untold is the teens. 12-19 year old kids will start to follow suit and trust me PEDS change the chemistry of brain as an adult man of 25…. would be a shame to see kids juiced out before high school even. As much as i love faster more exciting playing from my favorite athletes, PEDS should stay banned in sports and are for joe shmo wanting big arms or professional bodybuilders , that’s it
The HEAT was not the first SUPERTEAM, KEVIN GARNETT, PAUL PIERCE, RAY ALLEN and RAJON RONDO formed a SUPERTEAM before the HEAT , and thats the only reason why LEBRON , WADE and BOSH did it, it was to be equal to the CELTICS SUPERTEAM, and get revenge on them as well . And also, there were many SUPERTEAMS formed in the 1970's, 80's and 90's as well
Keep the old guys in because they can get away with drug use. Great message here. Get rich break the rules just because you have money. Sad way to be better
His physique does look ridiculous, he's 6'11 too a real freak. But it took him years to reach that, you can easily do that in 5-6 years lifting weights and having a good diet.
@@elijahlogan7347 no it’s not he was malnourished as a teen coming from Greece to America and he could then afford to strengthen and train his body hence adding a lot of muscle to his already insane genetics
The problem with allowing PED’s in sports is that children aspire to be like these guys. Also, certain people would have, and do not deserve a greater legacy on the back of Steroids.
How can I be mad at an athlete take something to impress their body to play better? Being the 3rd guy or 8th guy on the bench is a big difference of millions. They are a business, so you do what you have to do.I can be upset at that. Keep in mind the average NBA career is 3-4 years,so you have to make what you can.Just my take.
I think they should make It leagal just so its a level playing field, i dont think its wrong, but if lebron uses them and nobody says anything but sombody else does It and they get suspended It becomes unfair. I get the moral side of It but would probably up the TV ratings.
you can't legalise it because it will become socially acceptable, think of all the kids/semi pros/lower League players that will be willing to take it like their idols. PEDs are readily available if you look for it, but good supervision and knowledge about the subject is definitely not available to everyone. we see that in gyms where a lot of guys face severe outcomes after an uneducated steroid cycle
I played D-1 football and the coaches tell u the week before the NCAA is coming to do drug testing lol. I know NFL players who got busted and the NFL swept it under the rug. And people think that u have to have big muscles to be on PEDS.
I feel as tho the nba is a perfect storm of having the least educated fan base when it comes to peds, and also having the worst level of testing you can get away with in a pro sport
I mean giannis grew up poor and was underfed as a teenager so when he went to america, it obviously makes sense that he will gain muscle and weight. But i do think he used something for his knee injury.
Kobe Bryant's body wouldn't have broken down if that was the case and he gradually got more muscle mass with time. But I can do what most NBA players do and I've never taken anything but multi vitamins.
I’m a Kobe Stan and followed his career very closely. There is a HUGE difference between how he looked in 2011-12 season and the 2012-13 season. In 2011-12 Kobe was very slow and seemed to have lost almost all of his athleticism. He was settling for post fades and long 2s because he could not get past his man. Then after the Olympics he goes to Germany and then comes back looking 25 lbs lighter and running and dunking all over people. His shooting % went up from 43 to 47% that year and he had a stretch of like 5 games where he played the whole game with no rest. Players in their mid 30s don’t just get better man out of nowhere, Kob was definitely taking something that’s all I’ll say.
Hey nice video man! What's your opinion about Giannis you think he's juicing. His body transformation is amazing, though it didn't haappen overnight it took him like 6 years to gain all that muscle mass. Looks legit in my eyes but he could easily be juicing as well who knows!
"Everybody's on steroids" - Nate Diaz
No
Tell em
@@Broguerwashere EVERYBODY worth a damn is on steroids in the NBA. Their "tests" are a joke and totally a fraud.
Say what you will about FIFA but they do not let it slide. Its much MUCH harder to take PEDs in soccer. Its outright impossible due to rigorous testings.
@@Broguerwashere Yes
All you mofos are on steroids! 🤣
Failing a NBA drug test is like failing an IQ test
When you realize IQ test, like the lie detector test aren’t an accurate measurement in any way.
How do you fail an IQ test?? Think about that genius!
I think he/she means you can't. Which is the point
@@sams9732 its okay sam, not every tool in the shed can be shiny.
Wrong
All those "tested positive," guys are likely scapegoats and the NBA turns a blind eye to certain players
I’ve used steroids (synthetic testosterone). I’ve obtained them legally and illegally. Yes most people/fans are ignorant about steroids. They think they’re only used to put on muscle. The truth is they help you do ANYTHING that’s athletic. Jumping higher and running faster is just the tip of the iceberg. The endurance and strength benefits are huge. I believe Lebron and others have been taking them for years. It’s not right. Steroids are still under the radar somehow in the nba. Therefore it’s a dirty league in my opinion.
Totally agree.
I also took steroids for years and played sports my entire life. Steroids DO NOT make you a better athlete. They help you RECOVER much more quickly and get stronger. They don’t make you a better hitter or better 3 -point shooter. No one was ever rushing to sign Arnold Schwarzenegger to a professional contract.
@@roccofranzino4069 exactly
100%
Make a list
Ain’t no way lebron doesn’t take some sort of enhancement 😂😂😭
That’s why I’m sayin bro is still playing a elite level for his whole career and has one of the most played and minutes in nba history😂 his body has to most diff gotta be beat up
His initials was found on a invoice from the biogenesis scandal in the heat years...Mr Paul would pick them up
And Giannis too
@@Ravens4life5 probably
I was lmao 🤣 loud when read your comment 😆 🤣...Just look at NBA reference during 2014-15 season the first 2months at LBJ numbers before that 2week vacation back to Miami were allot of MLB players were going then got in trouble eventually lol
today its so hard to have a reference what really is possible while being natural. so many athletes and fitness guys and trainers and influencers and everybody in these fields could all be on peds because they make there living that way. its rare to find a honest person
It’s definitely happening in every pro sport there’s so many different enhancers it’s crazy
Not in nba
@@d3adyoutubeaccount 🤣
@@d3adyoutubeaccount 😂😂😂😂😂
@@MightbePettingmyCat prove it
@@xgtwb6473 proof:
This is very true, many people still don't want to believe it but I'll give you one more obvious example. In 1988 sprinter Ben Johnson was tested positive for stanozolol and subsequently disqualified he ran 9,79. Now stanozolol is better known as winstrol, quite a powerful anabolic steroid. In 2009 Ussain Bolt ran 9,58 and nobody bats an eye, people are accepting that he was 0,21 sec faster than Johnson on steroids and this is freakishly more, not tiny by any stretch in 100m race! So he was faster than Ben Johnson on steroids by an amazing amount and people accept that he was natural. It's silly... Just to mention I have nothing against Bolt, I'm a fan actually, but I'm just sorry Johnson ended up the way he did although he didn't do anything out of the norm...
EXACTLY
Lebron 38 looking 25 while his draft mate's are out the league. 😂 Obviously
Great video. Well edited, well detailed, and entertaining. The description is worth reading as well for those that haven't. I'm glad videos like these and Clarence Kennedy's "Anti-Doping" videos are starting to pop up more here. Too many people are ignorant to the likelihood of their favorite top athlete being on some form of PEDs. Which is very likely of course.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fascinating video. Me and probably most NBA fans have never considered our favourite players to be using PED's.
People get emotional over their favourite players!
They can’t accept facts! Truth will always set you free!
Steph and Mike might have taken ped also my guy
@@Eustazzio Steph is definitely on something. No one in their mid 30s can naturally maintain that much muscle mass and aerobic capacity at the same time. His muscles are literally bigger than when he was in his prime.
Like Nate Diaz once said “everybody’s on steroids”. I think at least 50% of athletes in whatever sport u look at take some sort of PED’s ,
The number is higher. The natural guys get cut from the roster
Only in America. In Europe, they take this stuff very seriously. You get caught doping, that's a 2 year ban minimum.
For instance, there was this one player who was supposed to take his daily supplement but instead took his wife's pregnancy pills by mistake. They found it in the drug test and suspended him for 18 months regardless.
This kind of made me feel a little disappointed in today’s NBA. I don’t know how to explain it but it made me feel weird. It makes it seem so disgraceful especially since this is the generation of basketball that I grew watching and people who used look up to.
Yeah and I’m pretty sure players like Lebron take it because he was also losing his hair which is a sign of doping.
He called it his 666 workout because thats who he gets his power from.
I guess we know where kobes at😅
I was wanting to do a video about professional athletes so I’m glad someone else already did it and with exceptional quality. Thank you for making this.
Do one ☝️ , it would be even more interesting to get others perspectives with research and information , you yourself may have come across info. that others may or may not come across , and have some sort of key to get the information across..? There’s always room for more perspective esp. if it’s “actual and factual “ lol 😆 “ build it and they will come “ true facts brother 🙏
With those loose enforcing rules, I guarantee half the NBA is on PEDs
Bron is the new Barry Bonds, dude lost his athleticism and gained it back lol
I’m surprised that you don’t have more videos on your channel during two years because this one is very well done. Good Luck
More to come, stay tuned
This might be the most interesting videos I’ve seen on UA-cam
Kobe was on some evil shit with that 666 workout
I believe all major superstars in NBA are taking dope. Bron, Giannis are most visible.
Exactly like how did Giannis get super big after like a year it takes way longer
@@isaacrunde6107 exactly man. Nba allows it, otherwise their reputation would be ruined.
Man i'm a big fan of curry like literally, but i feel like he also using steroid just look at his body this season... it's bulk💀
aint no way my skinny boy would have a bulk muscle like that man
@@isaacrunde6107 he didnt get bigger i one year u idiot check his body every uear u will see the defference
This was a great video bro you’re underrated
Appreciate it 🙏
Everyone knows lebron is on steroids. Remember when he couldn't even dunk an lost like 15 pounds when he first went back to Cleveland so then he took a vacation during the season an went back to Miami. Yeah I suprised nobody found that wierd
You also don’t think it’s weird that he barely misses any games has one the most minutes and playing time in nba history and been and still been playing at an elite level
@@omarthechosen_1692 Well thats because his body is just that gifted? Then yall will not gonna say a word about Jordan when he played 82 games a season will full postseason games for years
@@notbeforemay5th Jordan was using too
@@notbeforemay5th lots of players in the past played at least 75 games. It's unusual because nowadays older players are playing a lot of minutes, so obviously PEDs are involved.
This is a pretty fair take on it, you’re pointing out the benefits and likelihood of significant PED usage without casting judgement on the players.
The NBA/NFL/etc. are very small clubs with very large benefits. The motivation for the marginal players is even higher than for the superstars, and I imagine once you start it would be very hard to stop for fear of not maintaining your performance level- especially if you know there are a lot of others players who are/may be using PED’s too.
I think it would be easier to have a constructive policy that promotes level playing fields if we take out the moral judgement. If even 40-50% of a given sports players are using or have used PED’s, it’s not productive to cast stones at a guy who is just trying to keep up, maybe recover from serious injury, or extend his career and livelihood as long as possible.
PED use is not a thing in the NBA bro, atleast not anymore
@@d3adyoutubeaccount Wrong.
@@AquarianAngel Really? I’d like to see you prove it with hard proof and not just speculation
@@d3adyoutubeaccount The info is out there. I don't have time to cater to your naivety.
@@AquarianAngel See, you don’t have any proof. There’s no actual proof, just speculation, you’ve just proven me right. Get educated on sports fool.
That's a very good video, obviously doping is rife in all sports, the Nba is one of the biggest and richest leagues in the world with very inadequate antidoping policies compared to the potential PED use in such a physically demanding sport. Unfortunately though, doping doesn't create a level playing field, everyone is affected differently by it and you can't possibly believe that every player would have the same access to advanced doping programs, just like LA and US Postal had a far more efficient program compared to guys from Professional Continental teams.
Keep making vids like this an you'll definitely be making that yt money.
butler crumbling when he's playing all out is the only time I saw a human in the court
Butler was ballin' out
This is so sad to talk about.... I wish people werent that greedy and everyone would just be natural
It's sad until you realize the only consequence of professional athlete PED use is that sports are more entertaining to watch.
@@Ethan-tn4jc 💯
Yeah there is no way lebron should still be jumping this high at this stage of his career
Exactly. Year 18 @ age 36 🤯
@@SwishTalk1 how the hell is head still above the rim? Like I was talking to my co workers about this yesterday Kobe who was a highflier had knee issues Vince had knee issues but lebron who has dunked more than both of them and is also heavier never has had any kneee issues?
Facts bro. I did read somewhere that LeBron spends $1.5M a year on maintaining his body- I wonder exactly what those costs are 🤔
@@SwishTalk1 yeah he has a bio chemisty on his payroll
Lol Vince carter can still dunk at 50 is he on steroids 😂😂😂
Awesome Video Tristan. There are times where I train MMA and want to leave it all out on the mats. It gets hard to perform your best with so many factors in play. Muscle soreness, sleep, food, injuries, and mental fatigue. Of course the pros are cut from a different cloth, and have years of training under their belt. To what extent do you think that PEDs play a role in their performance?
Ay, what up, Eshrak! In MMA, there have been many cases of fighters getting caught for PEDs. The most recent one we can all recall was Adesanya's gyno against Costa. Gyno happens naturally during puberty when our hormones are still developing. They don't happen to us as adults unless💉 ... I believe Izzy used some form of anabolic steroid because Costa had a muscular size advantage over him. I'm not an expert in fighting, but knowing Adesanya, he's one of the best strikers in the UFC. If he added maybe 3-5lbs of lean muscle during his cycle, I think his strikes would have definitely done more damage on his opponent
@@SwishTalk1 Don't make absolute statements when you don't have accurate information. Adult onset gynecomastia is quite common and not necessarily tied to anabolic usage. Doesn't mean Adesanya's gyno wasn't from steroids, but your statement is patently false.
@@bengianacakos3166 not unilateral gyno. There is really no other explanation except for roids. Sorry Izzy fan
@@lionelmessisburner7393 Not an Izzy fan. I think it's very likely he took steroids. Just pointing out that the previous absolute statement was false.
LeBron has been on steroids his entire career. Notice how no one wants to discuss or address this...notice how it's not until a players career is over and the money has been made that this becomes a problem. LeBron should be banned from the hall of fame and all of his records stripped. This isn't right for so many reasons. Take a good look at the goat Michael Jordan and his teammate Scottie Pippen...the guys were rail thin when they came into the league...some of the skinniest guys to ever play...half way into their careers and up until the end they were the most built and shredded. Peep that
I agree and also Lebron lost his hair which is a sign of doping.
As an MJ fan, completely agree. The 90s saw an influx of steroids into professional sports, including boxing, NBA and baseball. Everybody got bigger in every sport.
Jordan was probably doping too.
@@MrOneanddone91 when you look at Jordan and Scottie Pippen when they were in college...it's night and day. Two of the skinniest guys ever became the most shredded in the league. David Robinson...but I mean...if you're in the gym 24/7 and playing ball regularly and have a team feeding you and rehabilitating you and the whole 9 it could be possible but ...I personally don't believe it's humanly possible when natural to play pro sports day in and day out at the highest levels without injury and all of that. We can speculate on the guys from the 90's NBA...but when it comes to LeBron it's a slam dunk and he's cheating.
LeBron should not get stripped of any of his accolades. PEDs need to become legal in fact.
Dwayne wades jaw started mutating, lebron goes to Miami, boom a big dude becomes an even bigger scarier monster, jimmy butlers shoulders doubled in size and became so much more vascular after the Miami trade, bam was named a top 5 strongest player by Duncan Robinson (his teammate so maybe biased) but dang Miami gotta have something going on imo, oh and CBs blood clots, Miami just screams suspicion
Also remember that finals where Wade couldn’t even run or do a layup because of his knees in Miami? He left the game and was expected to not come back. Out of nowhere he comes out of the locker room running and catching lobs immediately. I remember watching that game like wtf is this?? Bro couldn’t even run and elevate minutes prior and he goes to the locker room and becomes superman. That was the turning point in that series.
@@highdeff17 Yeah. That was a cortizone shot. Anabolic steroids don't have that effect 5 minutes after injection. But Dwayne Wade was definitely on anabolic steroids, regardless.
Had a guy in high school who was on steroids and he challenged our wrestling coach to a wrestling match but lost to are coach.
😂 can't overlook skill
Great video! This is 1 of the best videos on this subject I've seen thus far concerning the nba...
this production is so great coming from a small channel , if u keep this up you’ll blow up for sure bro!
It would explain lbj’s hairline
yes, more videos like this need to be made, more discussions. anyone who's switched on knows what goes down in high remuneration sports. the whole thing is just disgraceful - worst kind of hypocrisy. we all know many pro athletes actors etc who obviously use steroids and other "illegal" performance enhancing drugs. if this can't be stopped, why not just let it out in the open? change the regulations and make these drugs legal. then anyone will be aware what goes down. it's all that lying and hypocricy that really bugs the hell out of me. but then again, I guess that's the world we live in, right? everybody extols the value of truth while lying and cheating out their faces. everyone says how much they appreciate the truth but when someone's truthful to them they don't like it - they'd rather listen to the people that tell them what they want to hear. after 3 thousand years of human history, we are simply becoming more and more hypocritical while mistaking our technological advances for "civilization"
I said Lance Armstrong was clearly on gear way before he was caught and I was called a lazy scumbag. It was so obvious. Imo were asking these athletes to do inhuman things with a normal hormone profile, its silly. Id argue its safer for them to take gear than not to. Giannias is basically saying, look at me, im on the hot sauce and you can't stop me.
Lance is still god and who cares!!
L.J. needs to sue that clinic for not protecting his privacy enough and using initials that matched his own. They need more disconnect.
Bro u don’t think he use them drugs?
If he does that, he basically admits to taking them
If he sues everyone will definitely know he does it lol
Personally I think it's fine for players taking these substances, here's the thing we tend to forget. In this age we're living in an high demanding society, people want to a team's super star at least 3 times a week, there are more games being played and the schedule is packed, on top of that like u mentioned in the video, there's traveling and practice we didn't even consider. People don't understand that this type of schedule is body destroying. If you're taking these substances to keep your body from breaking down, I think it's fine
But its very unhealthy for your body and they encourage more athletes to do the same
It's cheating
Bro, when u allow players to take steroids, that basically kills the ability of a natural athlete to succeed, which is morally wrong cuz plenty of people cant take steroids for health, religious, or personal reasons. Its not about weather steroids are good for athletes to take, off they are! You dont allow steroids so people dont have to take them in order to be a professional athlete
@@johanneswahlig4553 Yes and no. I think you are thinking more of those old school/early 2000s bodybuilders who go on some bullshit balls to the wall program. Nowadays with medical science advancements, you can basically eliminate most side effects and have no visual disfiguring whilst maximizing performance and reducing recovery time.
@@abruhigoham7472 steroids are totally fine if you choose to play natural and not have an advantage that is your choice
Everyone says “LeBron does it” but never cares to listen to this reasoning of why Kobe was also probably doing it too. Thank you for this video
Best video i watched about ped's. Thanks
They all are taking something. The body ain’t built for this type of banging. We just need to accept it. They must keep the masses entertained
Thank you for your insights. This was very educational.
Fantastic video bro, you've gained a sub!
Welcome to the channel and thanks for the sub!
It is crazy to me all the comments on how these guys bodys changed from early on to 25ish and they had to use PEDs. I do think many athletes are on steriods, especially as they get past 30. But you take an athletic 18 year old man and put them through top fitness, diet and legal supplements for even a year, you will see amazing growth. Do it for 4 and it will be extreme. I played D3 football for 4 years. Came in at 190 benching about 300 and by Senior year hit 400. Vert, 40 and everything else got much better with the size. I can tell you our offseason work was brutal and consistant. We all worked our ass off and the stakes weren't high enough to take steriods....and NCAA did rendom tests on us. Not one player out of about 150 ever failed a random drug test. I could see Gnainis transformation being possible...he has access to all the best and did not prior to the NBA. Men aren't physically mature at 18....more like 25. It can be done. Again I'm not saying he was natural, but his work ethic is said to be unreal so it is very possible.
Now I will say these guys still competing at the highest level after 35, at least if it is still mostly on their crazy athleticism, seems highly unlikely.
But don't just assume a guy can't transform in his early career on hard work and proper nutrition. Some people do win thr genetic lottery after all.
6:05 A HALF LIFE is NOT 25%. Hence the name, HALF Life...
Steph put on a lot of muscle this year 😑
He's definitely a lot bigger than he was in his late 20s.
Man wow bro this is a amazing channel love the content
Anthony Bosch. Anthony office manager lady. A ROD. Now Sonnen.
LeBron always been on HGH
There's no doubt in my mind nba players are on it. Imagen from the time your a kid to your mid 30s your basically playing basketball competitively every day essentially. Your body has to start breaking down at some point
outstanding job, factual, accurate, although you assumptions are just that I agree with you, I think your 1/2 life computations are incorrect, aside from that, great job !
They definitely are. It’s not even like they do any drug testing
Great video man thank you.
Bronny james 18 takes steroids heart attack
really good video, very good and clear information. Easy for learners to understand doping in sport
DwightHoward was obviously juicing in 07-10.... His shoulders were wide AF 😂 ... LeBron in Miami was literally like 270 pds jumping higher than ever.. 😂
Without a fucking doubt back in 09 I legit thought so. Some of these guys were jumping out the gym like they weighed 150+ 😅
As much as I respect giannis he has to be on something like hgh he became bigger and leaner and somehow also grew 2 more inches
It took him 5 years.
With good genetics and hard Work it's possible to achieve that
@@tolufoodiesland3368 nahhhh, I’ve seen Giannis every season he played. Literally he would gain the smallest amount of weight over the seasons, but the out of nowhere after one offseason like 2 years ago he was WAAAAY bigger. He also has been having much more behavioral problems and issues in the league. Anyone knows that PED’s and Steroid use affects mood and certain people become more irritable and rage induced. Giannis, Dwight Howard, Bron, Andre Iguodala are a few amongst the many that are on some shit.
@@highdeff17 one bad moment and he is on Drugs
Come on
@@highdeff17 I just Searched about his Transformation, he didn't gain the majority of his muscle in one Year 2017 to 2018 was probably the biggest jump not to big to say he uses Steroids 🙄
@@highdeff17 lol look at his brothers they got that african gene
Btw that mf giannis sleeps on the gym
Giannis arms were naturally grown over a span of 3 years, his body didn't do what LeBron's did in Miami.
i do agree to your point but what goes untold is the teens. 12-19 year old kids will start to follow suit and trust me PEDS change the chemistry of brain as an adult man of 25…. would be a shame to see kids juiced out before high school even. As much as i love faster more exciting playing from my favorite athletes, PEDS should stay banned in sports and are for joe shmo wanting big arms or professional
bodybuilders , that’s it
The NBA knows about it and doesn’t care.
Greek )freak) is on PED!!
666 for a workout is a crazy name ngl
I have a very naive question. Why shouldn't everybody use PEDS if they are so good? Why are they looked down upon?
It'll kill you.
@@energysurgefitness1738 clearly not true tho
@Percentile there are 20 year Olds dying from heart attacks, organ failure etc. Roids will kill you.
Lebron is definitely taking something. He need his own video.
I feel like it’s not talked about enough .. not much anyone can do but still
Derrick Rose's perspective might be the reason why he was injury prone.
This right here, the dude tried to play legit in a league full of cheaters!
Who’s here from Giannis recover from injury
What a 210 cm person looks like clean - Jokic.
What a similar height person looks like when pumped full of roids - Giannis.
Different bone structure and skulls, thats how Africans are built
The HEAT was not the first SUPERTEAM,
KEVIN GARNETT, PAUL PIERCE, RAY ALLEN and RAJON RONDO formed a SUPERTEAM before the HEAT , and thats the only reason why LEBRON , WADE and BOSH did it, it was to be equal to the CELTICS SUPERTEAM, and get revenge on them as well .
And also, there were many SUPERTEAMS formed in the 1970's, 80's and 90's as well
There is no way Lebron is natty. The dude still looks like in his prime after 18 seasons.
Keep the old guys in because they can get away with drug use. Great message here. Get rich break the rules just because you have money. Sad way to be better
Give me whatever they gave Gianni’s I’m tryna look like hulk bro 😂
His physique does look ridiculous, he's 6'11 too a real freak. But it took him years to reach that, you can easily do that in 5-6 years lifting weights and having a good diet.
There goes lebrons all time scoring record 😂
Not confirmed and also how do you know that guys like MJ, Kobe, Karl Malone; and Shaq weren’t using as well
Giannis was like an 8 year difference in those pics
Exactly ppl don’t know how hard that man worked to get to the shape he is rn but nah it’s gotta be steroids
@@Cersiba21 I hear you but he went from 196 to 250 pounds that’s a little puzzling
@@elijahlogan7347 no it’s not he was malnourished as a teen coming from Greece to America and he could then afford to strengthen and train his body hence adding a lot of muscle to his already insane genetics
@@Cersiba21 Even still that’s a lot of muscle gain
It's amazing how many people still think Lebron is natural. Eventually, he will be exposed as the Lance Armstrong of the NBA
Great video and very objective!
The problem with allowing PED’s in sports is that children aspire to be like these guys. Also, certain people would have, and do not deserve a greater legacy on the back of Steroids.
Giannis antetokounmpo put in so much muscle since he started it's not possible in such a short time without steroids
I believe giannes is using just haven't got caught yet it dont matter nba not going to do nothing
Nah I think Giannis gained that on his own it took him like 5 to 7 years
How can I be mad at an athlete take something to impress their body to play better? Being the 3rd guy or 8th guy on the bench is a big difference of millions. They are a business, so you do what you have to do.I can be upset at that. Keep in mind the average NBA career is 3-4 years,so you have to make what you can.Just my take.
Lebron james has already been caught, 🤣🤣🤣 🤫
@D.M 2013 miami heat 🔥
I see no problem with players using hgh
I think they should make It leagal just so its a level playing field, i dont think its wrong, but if lebron uses them and nobody says anything but sombody else does It and they get suspended It becomes unfair.
I get the moral side of It but would probably up the TV ratings.
you can't legalise it because it will become socially acceptable, think of all the kids/semi pros/lower League players that will be willing to take it like their idols. PEDs are readily available if you look for it, but good supervision and knowledge about the subject is definitely not available to everyone. we see that in gyms where a lot of guys face severe outcomes after an uneducated steroid cycle
@@slkalmuhairi Facts
I have zero issues with the use of PEDs. It needs to become legal in fact.
NBA has always had a rampant steroid problem.
Really great content and writing
I would say Tony Parker didn't take steroids. Or, if he took them, he should complain to his parents.
I played D-1 football and the coaches tell u the week before the NCAA is coming to do drug testing lol. I know NFL players who got busted and the NFL swept it under the rug. And people think that u have to have big muscles to be on PEDS.
The sooner LaRoid James retires, the better
Players have been caught for peds.
Spending 2 million a year on a scientist, lol one day the wool will be pulled from over the eyes.
Hard sub, I'm on the same path as you bro
Lebron's dirty, Trout's dirty, Brady was dirty.
I feel as tho the nba is a perfect storm of having the least educated fan base when it comes to peds, and also having the worst level of testing you can get away with in a pro sport
so in shot he's saying Giannis and Lebron are on steroids
I mean giannis grew up poor and was underfed as a teenager so when he went to america, it obviously makes sense that he will gain muscle and weight. But i do think he used something for his knee injury.
Kobe Bryant's body wouldn't have broken down if that was the case and he gradually got more muscle mass with time. But I can do what most NBA players do and I've never taken anything but multi vitamins.
I’m a Kobe Stan and followed his career very closely. There is a HUGE difference between how he looked in 2011-12 season and the 2012-13 season. In 2011-12 Kobe was very slow and seemed to have lost almost all of his athleticism. He was settling for post fades and long 2s because he could not get past his man. Then after the Olympics he goes to Germany and then comes back looking 25 lbs lighter and running and dunking all over people. His shooting % went up from 43 to 47% that year and he had a stretch of like 5 games where he played the whole game with no rest. Players in their mid 30s don’t just get better man out of nowhere, Kob was definitely taking something that’s all I’ll say.
@@MrOneanddone91 agreed. It's a business decision. He's too competitive to NOT look for an edge
There's no way Kobe would turn down a drug that would make him better if he could get away with it. Kobe Bryant loved to win more than anything.
Hey nice video man! What's your opinion about Giannis you think he's juicing. His body transformation is amazing, though it didn't haappen overnight it took him like 6 years to gain all that muscle mass. Looks legit in my eyes but he could easily be juicing as well who knows!
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