The stainless pipe that brings the EGR gasses to the valve was blocked on mine nearly halfway through. I wasted years debating whether to get an EGR delete but all I needed to do was wait and let it delete itself. I found way less muck in the intake as I had expected. It was pretty much all in the plumbing leading to the throttle valve, the diffuser, and the throttle valve itself. I have a CAYC engine so I can't touch my EGR valve without some serious dismantling.
Hi Tom, In your video you try and fit a restrictor to the egr, i have just taken mine apart and it is completely blank. any idea why or how it is a blank plate?
Hello, thanks for video. Can I ask you what error you had for this? I got P0401 and I’m not sure if is just this valve or the cooler at the back. I will appreciate if you reply! Thank you
Hello mate, What you have done for your error? How did you sort it out as I have the same issue now and I don’t know if is the egr at the back or just the throttle body at the manifold. Please if you mind to let me know asap
Can cleaning the EGR help if it’s stuck open. My car won’t even move cause the damn valve doesn’t want to close all the way. Had the tuner tune it out as here in the Netherlands you only need to have the dpf working.
Absolutely, it might be stuck open due to carbon build up, definitely worth cleaning. I think the EGR and the DPF work together so having a non functional EGR might reduce the lifespan of the DPF
with the blank off plate with hole, if it throws a code,enlargen the hole a mm at a time until no code. my diesel Rav4 2018 2.2 d-cat worked with a 10 mm hole My vw eos 2.0 tdi full blank plate just engine light 15% more power
I had one or two codes that came but I could clear it each time. It's been around a year now without any codes, perhaps it references a known previous value to detect any changes. Now it's used to the reduced flow, it doesn't throw any codes
Hi, do you have any idea what the codes are for the 3 screws that hold the EGR shut off flap? The 3 long ones, I'm missing the longest one, and I'd like to buy them again.
Try 7Zap, should be under Golf Variant then follow the sections through to find the EGR parts diagram. I've found most bolts are only available through the dealer network either way, so could be worth just going straight to the dealer
Hello, recently got my hands on a golf 6 2.0tdi 2011. And today after changing the timing belt and thermostat suddenly i got an error on OBD2 scanning about EGR recirculation and EGR valve.... Could those things be connected or did it really just happen to be a coincidence? I'm a bit scared to do this operation on my car, but the auto shops ask so much for doing even this
Maybe try to clear the code and see if it comes back? Make sure you didn't miss to reconnect any electrical connectors or earth points when doing timing belt
I hope you don't mind me asking, but do you do callouts, or where are you based? I have a 2.0TDI Mk6 Golf and looking to sell it, but it needs sorting out before I do, as the EML is on and there's error codes showing for the EGR and Throttle Body - I suspect they're both clogged up.
It's a bit tricky, I find the easiest way is to take the clamps off both sides, press the hose down further onto the bottom pipe, then bend the hose in the middle by pushing it towards the engine, that should give you enough room to get it free from the valve, then you can pull it up off the bottom pipe.
What year mk6 is your car and what hp. Your egr is easy access. All the mk6 2.0 tdi I'm looking at have eegr and cooler at the back where the exhaust manifold is.
It's quite tricky, try putting a flat head screwdriver between the hose and the valve (careful not to puncture the hose) then once the seal between the rubber and metal is broken you should be able to push it down but it's still quite awkward and there isn't a lot of room
In this engine configuration yes, from memory the long bolt is shared between the two. I think they're T30, if it's not that, it's certainly a common size
Hi T my golf is a 2012 2.0 diesel, my egr valve is not there and the manifold is plastic, any ideas where I might find it and what have I got, all I see is the anti shudder valve, regards
On some of the engines, the EGR valve is mounted on the EGR cooler which is mounted to the back of the engine block at the bottom. If you try to find a guide on removing the EGR cooler, yours should be mounted directly there. Unfortunately I think your version is harder to remove. Hope this helps
I’d love to but unfortunately here in NH, the “live free or die” state, they are very strict on emissions. So unfortunately the only thing I can do is maintain it
in Serbia you can't pass the technical inspection without it, as well as if you don't have a catalyst on a gasoline engine... I won't even talk about Switzerland, the Netherlands... the laws there are rigorous
nice work and thanks .I am wondering how the n18, n75 and n239 valves and the round valve on the egr work and what their duties are. Do you have any information?
Hi, do you recommend getting the EGR removed from a 1.6tdi golf and stage 1 remapped? I have had EGR problems a few times as I commute locally and on short journeys, I was wondering if a stage 1 remap would put too much strain on the engine? Thank you
From my understanding, EGR is only really utilised under part throttle cruise application. I don't think a remap will affect your EGR function, if you currently have issues I imagine you still will have issues but I don't think it will get worse. But not an expert on the matter.
Nice work, really time saving showing the oart numbers,just one thing, there was no mention if egr pipe gasket part number, don’t suppose you could add this 👍👍👍
@morganowen7418 it's unlikely a faulty EGR would cause this. Do you wait for the glow plugs to cycle before starting? Generally I'd be looking at the glow plugs or valve stem seals for white smoke on start up
First and foremost thank you for posting this video. My 13 Passat does not have any hose to unclamp, instead it is mounted directly to the intercooler. This completely blocks me from getting to that third bolt in the back. Anyone have any advice on how to take it off without removing intercooler? Thanks
Not a problem at all, I'm not sure I'm afraid, it may be one of those scenarios where removing the another component might end up being quicker than trying to work around it
Great video, Would you recommend changing the egr pipe and the cooler at the back of the engine if the valve has clogged up ? mine has gone recently (141,000 miles) but was advised best to get the pipe and cooler changed along with it if I can. I know it will cost me a bit as I'm no mechanic.
Well, before the gas gets to the valve it has to pass through the cooler and the pipe, I assume those are probably in worse condition than the valve but I could be wrong. It's well worth having them inspected though!
@@shivamantra they get absolutely caked in crap there terrible my cooler literally put my dpf light on and flashing coil light it was so blocked it wouldnt allow my car to preform a regen to clear the dpf So I blanked it at the back and front disconnected the water lines and bridged them together turned the engine management light off and allowed me enouph time to preform a regen before the ecu realised the ejr was blanked haven't had a problem since
Best bet is to remove the EGR & DPF altogether, so the restrictions are gone, and the engine can breath. A Carbon Clean & Map will see huge differences....
But you can't just remove them right? You need to but a deleted exhaust and then pay for a $600 Malone tune. Pls correct me if I'm wrong as I'm about to have to do this.
@@DJgoon12nope the DPF gets it’s guts bashed out then welded back onto the exhaust. Egr delete uses a blanking plate. These emissions systems are utter dross and only serve to make cars use more fuel and need more (very expensive) maintenance. If the DPF needs replacing it’s well into 4 digits to replace. But some countries are very strict about this sort of thing so be careful *edit* Don’t know about American tuners but tons of European mechanics can simply remove the DPF/EGR from the ECU mapping without touching the power output or anything, although many owners opt for a stage 1 tune to get more power
I'm getting ready to do this job myself just want to make sure I have all the seals and gaskets to do so.....eventually I'll be doing a complete delete. My car is a 2013 ausi a3 8p tdi
Great video! Getting fault code 01027 "Exhaust Gas Recirculation Circuit" - goes into limp mode and then might recur a few days later. Need to sot it out. If I remove and clean both my ASV and EGR do I need new seals (anywhere I can purchase?). Can you perform an EGR delete on this vehicle as I did with my Land Rover - put bypass pipe in and blocked off EGR cooler.
Ideally you'll need new seals, I think I linked them in the video description, hopefully the links still work. If your seals are still flexible and not damaged, you could reuse them I think. If you want to "blank" the EGR you can't just put a blank plate in or unplug it as will throw a code. You'd have to get it mapped out.
Hi mate, I did this Job a month ago but after few days the leak was there again, i changed all the 3 gasket and used the right tightening specs, is it possible? May it be a particular problem of this engine? (so no solution?) I thought of using also some sealant but doing the whole work again is crazy 😂 the leak can be there in my opinion...
So 9 months later... Any CEL besides the one @ 700 Miles? Any other problems? Did you notice any power gains? Have you checked the fuel mileage and did it improve?
After a few thousand miles: No other CEL No other issues No noticeable power gains I log every tank of fuel Vs mileage and no discernible improvement I think the only benefit for me is knowing there's less sooty exhaust gas heading back into the intake. I'd hope to see less carbon build up in the intake but of course this is difficult to observe or measure.
@@ToolTimeWithTom I think it is close to time to do the disassembly review and show us if it is still clean or it it concentrating it on one little area.
I had it apart the other week to do the thermostat, has carbon build up inside the EGR again and inside the restrictior. It will limit the flow though so there should be less sooty air entering the intake overall
No matter how many times I look at your torque setting readings, I cannot see them. I have a 2014 Jetta, I guess the settings are the same. Can you tell me the EGR casing and other casing settings?
Depends on the engine code, For this engine & video: EGR pipe to EGR -- 20Nm EGR pipe to EGR cooler -- 20Nm The bolts that hold the EGR valve to the manifold -- 8Nm For the design with the EGR on the back: EGR cooler mounting bolts -- 9Nm EGR re-circulation pipework -- 9Nm EGR pipework to exhaust manifold -- 24Nm
@@ToolTimeWithTom I would like to say ta for the reply. I have no idea where to look for the engine code, would it be in the car paperwork. I did find 3VWML ? On the video at about 18 minutes 30 seconds, I take it that is the EGR valve casing. 20 minutes 50 seconds is the second casing, not sure of name. 24 minutes 40 seconds is the pipe. If you can name these three for me I do appreciate it.
You should be able to find the engine code on the sticker either in the owners manual stuck to front or back page, or there should be a sticker under the boot carpet with all the info. This engine is CBAB code, all codes are four characters. @18:30 is the EGR valve on this engine code @20:50 is the anti shudder valve / intake shut off valve but it has a few names @24:40 is the EGR pipework
What year is the model of your VW? What's your engine code? I am asking because I have an engen light on and the scan points out that an egr valve has a problem. I don't know where EGR valve is located. my car is a jetta 6 2.0 TDI.
I guess it depends on what kind of driving you do, if it's lots of short trips it will build up faster. I did this around 60k miles, I could have waited longer but 60-70k miles is probably about right
any tool that you would recommend to go around this issue? I use ratchet wrench and not sure if a straight tool wouldnt be better? I couldnt tell what you’re using here. Your video has been my go to. thanks for that:)
@@ToolTimeWithTom thanks and any idea why the egr hose gaskets come with a four clamps? I bought incorrect one which was flat but everywhere I look to shop for they have clamps and I cant imagine how that would fit there. The one you shown in the video doesnt have those clamps.
This has about 55k on it, hardly any at all but I think the gaskets just hardened up with time. It's not a bad job, just some fiddly bits with not a lot of access.
If you install the egr cooler delete and do the ecm update does this ever get dirty in the future? I have the raw tek with a stage 2 Malone and never thought about cleaning this.
If the EGR is deleted or mapped closed you won't get any recycled exhaust gases in the intake but you'll still get oil deposits from the PCV system unless that runs directly into a catch can. It's certainly worth cleaning out, the intake manifolds can get gummed up too.
Any chance you could do a video showing each nut and bolt you remove in depth? I apologies if that’s a lot to ask for just want to make sure I have full full knowledge on removal and re-installation of it, thank you also great video by the way
Sorry, it's all back together now, it's really not too bad to take off. There are only 5 bolts that hold both the EGR and antishudder valve. There's not a lot of room to work but it's not a complex job so you should be okay for it!
Yeah, the plate hole is about 8-10mm, I can't remember exactly but it's around there. You don't need to flash the ECU, the plate allows enough air through to avoid triggering a warning light for insufficient EGR flow.
Sure, I've done approx 1000 miles since, I had a CEL about 700 miles in for low EGR flow, happened under light load/cruise at 40mph, I drive on the same road every day and have only had that CEL the one time. I cleared it and it's not come back.
Nice one mate I find out that my anti shudder valve was mounted with 2 short bolts. I’m missing the long one, unfortunately I can’t find info about it anywhere I bought a random one M6 100mm but it seems to be too short can u give me any clue or part number so I can order genuine one. Much love.
I tried to find the part number for you but couldn't find it in the catalogue. Probably best to try and get the part number from a VW dealer. Either that or try a threaded rod, mark the length, cut and use as a stud with a nut.
I found the head of mine in bad condition so I asked a new one. Following the etka you have two types for the long one: M6x115x70 (N91117401) or M6x118x70 (N10740901). Mine was like the last one (2.0 tdi 110cv 2009)
I started this job today, cleaned the egr but was still throwing up fault code, took apart again but this time removed the black cover off the egr to expose the solenoid and it had some of the teeth on the gear was worn but inside the electrical terminals was covered in a lot of oil, it had seeped it’s way in somehow, anyone know if the oil on the inside egr electrics would cause it to not work properly?
I don't think oil is conductive particularly so I don't think it would have shorted anything out. I imagine the gear wear would be more of an issue for the functionality.
@@erickkilpatrick1052 yeah the gear was missing a lot of teeth, and inside was so much oil, but new egr was fairly easy to put on, and hasn’t played up since, hope you can get it sorted buddy
it's not the EGR valve, it's the throttle valve(which serves to turn off the car). The EGR valve is located all the way down behind the DPF filter and is very difficult to get to....😉
Definitely is the EGR. On this engine variant it's at the front, on the 1.6 and some of the other 2.0's it's where you describe but on this engine code it's front, top and centre.
Yeah both have EGR coolers, on this engine the cooler is at the back and the valve is at the front, on the 1.6 and some 2.0's the valve is mounted directly to the cooler
It is not supposed t have that amount of gunk after only 57000 miles...Those TDI's (I own a 2013 Golf TDI) have to be trashe from time to time to clear to burn all that gunk through regen...Drive it like you stole it an it will thank you...Mine has 308k km (192k miles) and it still has original turbo, EGR, Injectors....Cats & cylinder head were changd at 202k km (125k miles) though!
I think that's the throttle body, not an anti-shudder valve. Also that's not the EGR 'valve', that's the EGR control solenoid. The EGR 'valve' is at the back of the engine and has a cooler attached to it. On Mk6 GTD engines, the EGR control solenoid is attached to the EGR valve at the back, so it's a bitch to get to if you are gonna DIY.
Diesel engines don't use throttle bodies as petrol engines do, so far as I can tell in the workshop manual it's referred to as an anti shudder valve. On this variant of the 2.0tdi it is indeed the EGR valve, it's not mounted to the cooler on the back of the engine as it is on the 1.6tdi and some variants of the 2.0. Guess I got lucky with this engine variant (CBAB) in terms of service.
Nope not in this engine configuration, they're stacked together on the front. On the 1.6 and some other 2.0s they're down the back mounted directly on the cooler which is what you're referring to
That's not the EGR. The EGR is located at the back of the engine below the exhaust and directs hot exhaust gasses through its water cooled radiator back to the intake during certain conditions e.g. Cruising or decelerating
On the 1.6tdi the EGR valve is mounted on the EGR cooler on the back of the engine as described. On the 2.0tdi in this video the EGR valve is on the front of the engine but the cooler is still on the back of the engine.
Just brilliant mate. Even the torque settings and links to the gaskets needed. Thank you so much.
No worries, glad it helped you!
Very nice video , good information properly filmed with clear narration
Good work
The stainless pipe that brings the EGR gasses to the valve was blocked on mine nearly halfway through. I wasted years debating whether to get an EGR delete but all I needed to do was wait and let it delete itself. I found way less muck in the intake as I had expected. It was pretty much all in the plumbing leading to the throttle valve, the diffuser, and the throttle valve itself. I have a CAYC engine so I can't touch my EGR valve without some serious dismantling.
Great job and thank you for sharing!
Good Vid...thanks for taking the time to post up :)
the cheers got me hahaha, awesome video mate, helped me tremendous amounts, thankyou!
Thanks! Glad it helped!
Dude those valves were perfectly clean! 😉 I'm having a P2111 on the throttle valve.
just have to say, wow, what a good video
I need to do this soon so thanks for the help mate :)
Just an awesome tutorial, many thanks, mate.
P.S. Greta will be very upset if she sees this steel plug
Thanks, let's keep it between us, she doesn't have to know 🤫
Trabajo bien hecho amigo y nos servirá de ayuda 👌👌
Hi Tom, In your video you try and fit a restrictor to the egr, i have just taken mine apart and it is completely blank. any idea why or how it is a blank plate?
Do you mean there's a full blanking plate between the EGR valve and the EGR pipe?
Hello, thanks for video. Can I ask you what error you had for this? I got P0401 and I’m not sure if is just this valve or the cooler at the back. I will appreciate if you reply! Thank you
I didn't have an error, I did it more as preventative maintenance. Might as well try the easy option first!
Hello mate,
What you have done for your error? How did you sort it out as I have the same issue now and I don’t know if is the egr at the back or just the throttle body at the manifold. Please if you mind to let me know asap
Can cleaning the EGR help if it’s stuck open. My car won’t even move cause the damn valve doesn’t want to close all the way.
Had the tuner tune it out as here in the Netherlands you only need to have the dpf working.
Absolutely, it might be stuck open due to carbon build up, definitely worth cleaning. I think the EGR and the DPF work together so having a non functional EGR might reduce the lifespan of the DPF
with the blank off plate with hole, if it throws a code,enlargen the hole a mm at a time until no code. my diesel Rav4 2018 2.2 d-cat worked with a 10 mm hole My vw eos 2.0 tdi full blank plate just engine light 15% more power
I had one or two codes that came but I could clear it each time. It's been around a year now without any codes, perhaps it references a known previous value to detect any changes. Now it's used to the reduced flow, it doesn't throw any codes
Hi, do you have any idea what the codes are for the 3 screws that hold the EGR shut off flap? The 3 long ones, I'm missing the longest one, and I'd like to buy them again.
Try 7Zap, should be under Golf Variant then follow the sections through to find the EGR parts diagram. I've found most bolts are only available through the dealer network either way, so could be worth just going straight to the dealer
Hello, recently got my hands on a golf 6 2.0tdi 2011. And today after changing the timing belt and thermostat suddenly i got an error on OBD2 scanning about EGR recirculation and EGR valve.... Could those things be connected or did it really just happen to be a coincidence?
I'm a bit scared to do this operation on my car, but the auto shops ask so much for doing even this
Maybe try to clear the code and see if it comes back? Make sure you didn't miss to reconnect any electrical connectors or earth points when doing timing belt
I hope you don't mind me asking, but do you do callouts, or where are you based? I have a 2.0TDI Mk6 Golf and looking to sell it, but it needs sorting out before I do, as the EML is on and there's error codes showing for the EGR and Throttle Body - I suspect they're both clogged up.
I'm not a mechanic I'm afraid, just something I do in my spare time. They're fairly easy to remove if you have some tools and some time
@dazzypops same boat. Did you end up selling yours ?
@EricK-ik6rb Yep, got it sorted and sold. New owner was very happy with it. One of the best cars I've had.
3:33 how did you get that pipe off the anti shudder valve (it's missing from the video) I'm having a real hard time getting it off!
It's a bit tricky, I find the easiest way is to take the clamps off both sides, press the hose down further onto the bottom pipe, then bend the hose in the middle by pushing it towards the engine, that should give you enough room to get it free from the valve, then you can pull it up off the bottom pipe.
2.18 Yes my feelings exactly 😂🫡
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What year mk6 is your car and what hp. Your egr is easy access. All the mk6 2.0 tdi I'm looking at have eegr and cooler at the back where the exhaust manifold is.
It's a late 2008 model, CBAB engine code, 140bhp/103kw. Yeah very lucky with the EGR location on this one
How did you remove the big rubber bottom hose from the egr. I loosen the clamp but I can’t slide off the hose from egr valve
It's quite tricky, try putting a flat head screwdriver between the hose and the valve (careful not to puncture the hose) then once the seal between the rubber and metal is broken you should be able to push it down but it's still quite awkward and there isn't a lot of room
tip you dont have to open the air filter , you can take it out completely
Hi, my golf 6 2.0 tdi has software egr off, does the cable have to be disconneted from engine?
I think if you disconnect the wiring it will cause a CEL, if it's mapped out with software it's best to leave it plugged in
Torque specs on the bolts please if you still remember them?
Torque specs in the video description, hope that helps
Do you have to take off the flapper valve before the EGR and also what Torx is the EGR bolts?
In this engine configuration yes, from memory the long bolt is shared between the two. I think they're T30, if it's not that, it's certainly a common size
Great job and thank you bro👍👍
After this job did you have to plug and code or delete codes in computer
No, nothing required
Hi T my golf is a 2012 2.0 diesel, my egr valve is not there and the manifold is plastic, any ideas where I might find it and what have I got, all I see is the anti shudder valve, regards
On some of the engines, the EGR valve is mounted on the EGR cooler which is mounted to the back of the engine block at the bottom. If you try to find a guide on removing the EGR cooler, yours should be mounted directly there. Unfortunately I think your version is harder to remove. Hope this helps
@@ToolTimeWithTom Thank you for the info and clearing that up for me and the viewers, you made a really great guide, regards
@@buteandy4702 hi I have the same car I was trying to delete the egr and dpf any clue on where I can get it
Hello, I see that you use a torque wrench for repairs. Please tell me what value you set for tightening the bolts. Thank you in advance!
All are in video description
Just curious would this help remove a p2ba6 code on my 2012 golf tdi??
I think unlikely, better to look at other components first
Those emissions parts are like cancer to a diesel. There just killing it slowly. Best to just cut it all out and be free of that mess.
I’d love to but unfortunately here in NH, the “live free or die” state, they are very strict on emissions. So unfortunately the only thing I can do is maintain it
@@MattySquared how often have you had to work on the egr or dpf?
Live free or die, unless it has to do with emissions 😅
in Serbia you can't pass the technical inspection without it, as well as if you don't have a catalyst on a gasoline engine... I won't even talk about Switzerland, the Netherlands... the laws there are rigorous
Very nice video I wish I can do that but man tuning is very expensive for these cars!
What is the model year of the car your are working on Tom? I have a 2014 Jetta Sportwagen TDI, and I think that the parts may be the same.
It's a late 2008 build, it's possible it's the same, I would go by engine code if you can
nice work and thanks .I am wondering how the n18, n75 and n239 valves and the round valve on the egr work and what their duties are. Do you have any information?
Hi, do you recommend getting the EGR removed from a 1.6tdi golf and stage 1 remapped? I have had EGR problems a few times as I commute locally and on short journeys, I was wondering if a stage 1 remap would put too much strain on the engine? Thank you
From my understanding, EGR is only really utilised under part throttle cruise application. I don't think a remap will affect your EGR function, if you currently have issues I imagine you still will have issues but I don't think it will get worse. But not an expert on the matter.
Nice work, really time saving showing the oart numbers,just one thing, there was no mention if egr pipe gasket part number, don’t suppose you could add this 👍👍👍
069131547D is the OEM part number of the part I used, I'll add to the description
I have the same problem but would this cause the car to smoke white smoke when cold
@morganowen7418 it's unlikely a faulty EGR would cause this. Do you wait for the glow plugs to cycle before starting? Generally I'd be looking at the glow plugs or valve stem seals for white smoke on start up
First and foremost thank you for posting this video. My 13 Passat does not have any hose to unclamp, instead it is mounted directly to the intercooler. This completely blocks me from getting to that third bolt in the back. Anyone have any advice on how to take it off without removing intercooler?
Thanks
Not a problem at all, I'm not sure I'm afraid, it may be one of those scenarios where removing the another component might end up being quicker than trying to work around it
So help full! thank you
Great video, Would you recommend changing the egr pipe and the cooler at the back of the engine if the valve has clogged up ? mine has gone recently (141,000 miles) but was advised best to get the pipe and cooler changed along with it if I can. I know it will cost me a bit as I'm no mechanic.
Well, before the gas gets to the valve it has to pass through the cooler and the pipe, I assume those are probably in worse condition than the valve but I could be wrong. It's well worth having them inspected though!
@@ToolTimeWithTom Ill let you know and give you and update when I get it done
@@shivamantra they get absolutely caked in crap there terrible my cooler literally put my dpf light on and flashing coil light it was so blocked it wouldnt allow my car to preform a regen to clear the dpf
So I blanked it at the back and front disconnected the water lines and bridged them together turned the engine management light off and allowed me enouph time to preform a regen before the ecu realised the ejr was blanked haven't had a problem since
@@timmythetooth2587what happens at next regen though? Guess this has cropped up now since the last year?
Best bet is to remove the EGR & DPF altogether, so the restrictions are gone, and the engine can breath. A Carbon Clean & Map will see huge differences....
But you can't just remove them right? You need to but a deleted exhaust and then pay for a $600 Malone tune. Pls correct me if I'm wrong as I'm about to have to do this.
@@DJgoon12nope the DPF gets it’s guts bashed out then welded back onto the exhaust. Egr delete uses a blanking plate. These emissions systems are utter dross and only serve to make cars use more fuel and need more (very expensive) maintenance. If the DPF needs replacing it’s well into 4 digits to replace. But some countries are very strict about this sort of thing so be careful
*edit*
Don’t know about American tuners but tons of European mechanics can simply remove the DPF/EGR from the ECU mapping without touching the power output or anything, although many owners opt for a stage 1 tune to get more power
@@vxvii9069its not the smartest advice. Some countries- i am in Oz if you get caught with a DPF delete youre fucked and the car is taken off the road
Great video Tom. Just wondering what year this TDI is?
Late 2008, CBAB engine code
Are the anti shutter and egr pipe gasket seals the same?
I'm getting ready to do this job myself just want to make sure I have all the seals and gaskets to do so.....eventually I'll be doing a complete delete. My car is a 2013 ausi a3 8p tdi
I think I linked all the parts used in the description, hope that helps
@ToolTimeWithTom yes, I seen that & when you look at the parts in the description, picture and # they are identical
@ToolTimeWithTom what I'm asking is ....where the two gaskets identical to each other?
I have a jetta TDI 2.0. This video is very helpful
Great video! Getting fault code 01027 "Exhaust Gas Recirculation Circuit" - goes into limp mode and then might recur a few days later. Need to sot it out. If I remove and clean both my ASV and EGR do I need new seals (anywhere I can purchase?).
Can you perform an EGR delete on this vehicle as I did with my Land Rover - put bypass pipe in and blocked off EGR cooler.
Ideally you'll need new seals, I think I linked them in the video description, hopefully the links still work. If your seals are still flexible and not damaged, you could reuse them I think.
If you want to "blank" the EGR you can't just put a blank plate in or unplug it as will throw a code. You'd have to get it mapped out.
@@ToolTimeWithTom Thanks mate!👍👍
Hi mate, I did this Job a month ago but after few days the leak was there again, i changed all the 3 gasket and used the right tightening specs, is it possible? May it be a particular problem of this engine? (so no solution?) I thought of using also some sealant but doing the whole work again is crazy 😂 the leak can be there in my opinion...
Esa mariposa puede dar fallo P2015???
P2015 normally relates to intake butterfly valves, they are separate to EGR valve. Hopefully there are other videos that can help you
So 9 months later...
Any CEL besides the one @ 700 Miles?
Any other problems?
Did you notice any power gains?
Have you checked the fuel mileage and did it improve?
After a few thousand miles:
No other CEL
No other issues
No noticeable power gains
I log every tank of fuel Vs mileage and no discernible improvement
I think the only benefit for me is knowing there's less sooty exhaust gas heading back into the intake. I'd hope to see less carbon build up in the intake but of course this is difficult to observe or measure.
@@ToolTimeWithTom I think it is close to time to do the disassembly review and show us if it is still clean or it it concentrating it on one little area.
I had it apart the other week to do the thermostat, has carbon build up inside the EGR again and inside the restrictior. It will limit the flow though so there should be less sooty air entering the intake overall
No matter how many times I look at your torque setting readings, I cannot see them. I have a 2014 Jetta, I guess the settings are the same. Can you tell me the EGR casing and other casing settings?
Depends on the engine code,
For this engine & video:
EGR pipe to EGR -- 20Nm
EGR pipe to EGR cooler -- 20Nm
The bolts that hold the EGR valve to the manifold -- 8Nm
For the design with the EGR on the back:
EGR cooler mounting bolts -- 9Nm
EGR re-circulation pipework -- 9Nm
EGR pipework to exhaust manifold -- 24Nm
@@ToolTimeWithTom I would like to say ta for the reply. I have no idea where to look for the engine code, would it be in the car paperwork. I did find 3VWML ? On the video at about 18 minutes 30 seconds, I take it that is the EGR valve casing. 20 minutes 50 seconds is the second casing, not sure of name. 24 minutes 40 seconds is the pipe. If you can name these three for me I do appreciate it.
You should be able to find the engine code on the sticker either in the owners manual stuck to front or back page, or there should be a sticker under the boot carpet with all the info. This engine is CBAB code, all codes are four characters.
@18:30 is the EGR valve on this engine code
@20:50 is the anti shudder valve / intake shut off valve but it has a few names
@24:40 is the EGR pipework
What year is the model of your VW? What's your engine code?
I am asking because I have an engen light on and the scan points out that an egr valve has a problem. I don't know where EGR valve is located. my car is a jetta 6 2.0 TDI.
It's 2009, engine code CBAB. See if you can find your vehicle on 7zap, it should tell you where it's located.
how often you think this is worth to do?
I guess it depends on what kind of driving you do, if it's lots of short trips it will build up faster. I did this around 60k miles, I could have waited longer but 60-70k miles is probably about right
I got stuck on a anti shudder valve bottom torx screw. Its a torture. I cant find a way how to unscrew her next to all the hoses around throttle body.
It sucks, the clearance is really tight and it's very awkward!
any tool that you would recommend to go around this issue? I use ratchet wrench and not sure if a straight tool wouldnt be better? I couldnt tell what you’re using here. Your video has been my go to. thanks for that:)
I think I broke it loose with 1/4" ratchet, then unscrewed it by hand. Will be just finding the right combination of extensions, wobbles and bits
@@ToolTimeWithTom thanks and any idea why the egr hose gaskets come with a four clamps? I bought incorrect one which was flat but everywhere I look to shop for they have clamps and I cant imagine how that would fit there. The one you shown in the video doesnt have those clamps.
So 1 year ago I changed EGR and boguht a new one,is it possible that after 1 year I got notification about same problem?
Maybe, was it OEM part or generic aftermarket replacement?
Great video ! You should delete the EGR
What cleaner for the EGR did you use?
I used brake cleaner, but I'm sure carb cleaner would also work
@@ToolTimeWithTom that’s what I was thinking. I’m about to go on this adventure this weekend.
How many miles did this engine have on it?
I'm going might tomorrow with 170k on the clock 😬
This has about 55k on it, hardly any at all but I think the gaskets just hardened up with time. It's not a bad job, just some fiddly bits with not a lot of access.
If you install the egr cooler delete and do the ecm update does this ever get dirty in the future? I have the raw tek with a stage 2 Malone and never thought about cleaning this.
If the EGR is deleted or mapped closed you won't get any recycled exhaust gases in the intake but you'll still get oil deposits from the PCV system unless that runs directly into a catch can. It's certainly worth cleaning out, the intake manifolds can get gummed up too.
does it have to do with waste egr
THANK YOU FOR THIS SUPER HELPFUL VIDEO. IF I COULD I WOULD SEND YOU 10 TACOS AS A THANK YOU!
I was told by a mechanic the egr is round the back of the engine ?
Depends on the engine code and vehicle, some are round the back, some are up top
@@ToolTimeWithTom sorry should of said 09 golf 2.0 tdi
This is an 09 2.0 TDI so you might be lucky and have it up top as well
Any chance you could do a video showing each nut and bolt you remove in depth? I apologies if that’s a lot to ask for just want to make sure I have full full knowledge on removal and re-installation of it, thank you also great video by the way
Sorry, it's all back together now, it's really not too bad to take off. There are only 5 bolts that hold both the EGR and antishudder valve. There's not a lot of room to work but it's not a complex job so you should be okay for it!
Pro tip, take off your skid plate, or else you’re going to have to take off your skid plate when you inevitably drop a rachet or bolt down there.
Great work.Question that restricted plate has a hole I'm guessing 10mm now do you need to flash ECU when you install the plate?
Yeah, the plate hole is about 8-10mm, I can't remember exactly but it's around there. You don't need to flash the ECU, the plate allows enough air through to avoid triggering a warning light for insufficient EGR flow.
Thank you very much ! So well explained and detailed
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can we get an update? did the restrictor cause a CEL?
Sure, I've done approx 1000 miles since, I had a CEL about 700 miles in for low EGR flow, happened under light load/cruise at 40mph, I drive on the same road every day and have only had that CEL the one time. I cleared it and it's not come back.
What s CEL plz ?
Nice one mate I find out that my anti shudder valve was mounted with 2 short bolts. I’m missing the long one, unfortunately I can’t find info about it anywhere I bought a random one M6 100mm but it seems to be too short can u give me any clue or part number so I can order genuine one. Much love.
I tried to find the part number for you but couldn't find it in the catalogue. Probably best to try and get the part number from a VW dealer. Either that or try a threaded rod, mark the length, cut and use as a stud with a nut.
I found the head of mine in bad condition so I asked a new one. Following the etka you have two types for the long one: M6x115x70 (N91117401) or M6x118x70 (N10740901). Mine was like the last one (2.0 tdi 110cv 2009)
I have a 2011 2.0 L TDI and the EGR valve is at the back of the engine....😫
Oh no 🤦 good luck with it! Do you know the engine code?
@@ToolTimeWithTom No but will find out
Thx
Hi, thanks for the video. so what size triple square did you need to use, to get that inlet pipe off the egr valve?
No problem, from memory I think it was an M10
I started this job today, cleaned the egr but was still throwing up fault code, took apart again but this time removed the black cover off the egr to expose the solenoid and it had some of the teeth on the gear was worn but inside the electrical terminals was covered in a lot of oil, it had seeped it’s way in somehow, anyone know if the oil on the inside egr electrics would cause it to not work properly?
I don't think oil is conductive particularly so I don't think it would have shorted anything out. I imagine the gear wear would be more of an issue for the functionality.
What codes were you getting ?
@@erickkilpatrick1052 p0401 was the code, replaced egr with new one and all is working, better than it was before actually
@@AbandonedAddiction Thanks for the reply. I'm getting the P0401 as well. Gonna check my EGR this weekend. I'm hoping the gear isn't striped
@@erickkilpatrick1052 yeah the gear was missing a lot of teeth, and inside was so much oil, but new egr was fairly easy to put on, and hasn’t played up since, hope you can get it sorted buddy
Cbab or bkp?
CBAB
Thanks for the vid but mine turned out to be on the back on the engine. Mine is a 59 2.0 TDi also.
Interesting! Do you know the engine code? Mine is CBAB
@@ToolTimeWithTom Hi mate, sorry for the delay I was doing a bit more digging and found out that it's a CBDB. Cheers for the reply.
Will this work on a Mk 5 2006 2.0 TDI?
I'm not sure, I've not worked on a MK5 before. The concept is the same but the EGR might be mounted in a different location.
Nice car is that United grey?
Thanks! Yeah that's the one, LA7T
CBBB Engine?
CBAB
Se posso darti un consiglio apri pure la parte elettrica della EGR è piena di sporcizia anche lì ed è la parte che fa muovere il tutto.
Thanks! Good advice
i found that Aerosol mr muscle oven cleaner and a stiff toothbrush works best ;)
Will have to give it a go next time, have both of those in the garage already, I tend to use brake clean as universal cleaner!
I owe you a pint mate.
it's not the EGR valve, it's the throttle valve(which serves to turn off the car). The EGR valve is located all the way down behind the DPF filter and is very difficult to get to....😉
Definitely is the EGR. On this engine variant it's at the front, on the 1.6 and some of the other 2.0's it's where you describe but on this engine code it's front, top and centre.
Ok possibly, on my 2.0tdi 2010 CR it is in the back... does that 1.6 have an egr valve cooler?
Yeah both have EGR coolers, on this engine the cooler is at the back and the valve is at the front, on the 1.6 and some 2.0's the valve is mounted directly to the cooler
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Purple Power is a great EGR cleaner but wear gloves. ( I'm here in the states )
It is not supposed t have that amount of gunk after only 57000 miles...Those TDI's (I own a 2013 Golf TDI) have to be trashe from time to time to clear to burn all that gunk through regen...Drive it like you stole it an it will thank you...Mine has 308k km (192k miles) and it still has original turbo, EGR, Injectors....Cats & cylinder head were changd at 202k km (125k miles) though!
Hello! That’s not the egr! That’s the throttle valve. Cheers!
They're stacked together on this engine configuration
#ASMR
I think that's the throttle body, not an anti-shudder valve. Also that's not the EGR 'valve', that's the EGR control solenoid. The EGR 'valve' is at the back of the engine and has a cooler attached to it. On Mk6 GTD engines, the EGR control solenoid is attached to the EGR valve at the back, so it's a bitch to get to if you are gonna DIY.
Diesel engines don't use throttle bodies as petrol engines do, so far as I can tell in the workshop manual it's referred to as an anti shudder valve. On this variant of the 2.0tdi it is indeed the EGR valve, it's not mounted to the cooler on the back of the engine as it is on the 1.6tdi and some variants of the 2.0. Guess I got lucky with this engine variant (CBAB) in terms of service.
@@ToolTimeWithTom Yes, mine's a 2.0TDI CBBB engine - EGR above ASV at the front! Yeah!
the egr is behind the engine mate. that is the acceleration clap.
Nope not in this engine configuration, they're stacked together on the front. On the 1.6 and some other 2.0s they're down the back mounted directly on the cooler which is what you're referring to
At that point you should had just removed the intake and walnut blast the valves 😂….
Dam can we just soak it in diesel to clean it lol
That is not the egr. The egr is behind the engine my friend.
It's being the engine one the 1.6tdis, on the 2.0tdis it's at the front. You can see the EGR @14:02.
@@ToolTimeWithTom ok, thank you.
I've got a 2.0TDI CBBB engine - EGR at front just above the ASV. Thank God for that!
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This is NOT the EGR its an air shut off valve
This video covers both the EGR and air shut off valve. Hope it helps
Then if it's not, what is it?
That's not the EGR. The EGR is located at the back of the engine below the exhaust and directs hot exhaust gasses through its water cooled radiator back to the intake during certain conditions e.g. Cruising or decelerating
On the 1.6tdi the EGR valve is mounted on the EGR cooler on the back of the engine as described. On the 2.0tdi in this video the EGR valve is on the front of the engine but the cooler is still on the back of the engine.