Feels like yesterday. I remember watching this right after I’d seen BVS in theaters. I was so pissed about how the movie turned out and this episode pretty much covered the main reasons why. Hard to believe that was almost five years ago.
@@koberyan2880 After leaving the theater I really liked it. It had the star wars feeling for me. Lightsabers, cool flight scenes, harrison ford... but after I see it the second time or the third time I more and more had problems with this film. But it was still a fun movie to me. Nothing big but we had no Jar Jar, no politics, no anakin... Now? With all three movies I'm really angry and disapointed. There was no vision... no overall story. The only disney star wars I really liked was Solo because it was fun.
But he also couldn't be Captain Hypocrite, because that implies he's guilty of the same behavior as MurderMan. It's just a joke, not a literal statement of fact. Jokes are often exaggerated for effect.
Agreed. I don't really like superman in general and i don't care for a new batman so quickly. It also has a bunch of other characters that maybe cool, but the movie isn't about them. There really isn't much in it for me in the actual movie.
Agreed. I don't really like superman in general and i don't care for a new batman so quickly. It also has a bunch of other characters that maybe cool, but the movie isn't about them. There really isn't much in it for me in the actual movie.
+FlyingOverTr0ut It works so well that I actually watched 80% of their reviews without watching the films. I'm so not following "films" that RLM could totally make them up and it would work just as well.
Copperbeard Plot points weren't so much spoiled (well, they were, but they're so bad that I prefer hearing them versus seeing them myself) as the shockingly bad filmmaking, which I enjoy hearing about. That, and the now famous jar of piss from Lex Luthor.
I know nothing about the source material, but the idea of a mere earthling without any superpowers fighting Superman is ridiculous. Does that come from the comics?
The moment batman realises he has almost become the one thing he hates, a monster. Actually a pretty interesting scene. Could have been done better but what are ya gonna do
@@moonlightrouge3956 those aren’t innocent people, martha is. If he were to be the reason an innocent person dies that would make him no better than his parents killer
@@Alexander-hj8vk The idea of Batman thinking he became that which took his parents makes no sense for a simple reason.His parents got killed by a mugger in a botched roberry. Bats wants to kill Supes because he thinks hes too dangerous and threatens humanity( not so subtle allusion to the Dick Cheney 1% doctrine). Does it really seem believable that a guy like that would say 'oh Im just like the mugger who shot my folks'? You may be willing to believe it but I know how ideologues with murderous intent act. Trust me in the real world if they hear Martha they're not gonna stop melodramatically certainly not in this context.
You just don't understand the cinematic markers that Zach Snyder uses! You're a hack fraud who probably fanboys over Christian Bale! It's so obvious that Lex Luthor had a back up plan in case Doomsday won you idiot! It's so obvious that I'm not going to explain it at all! Besides that ending was so awesome! It was awesome when Superman punched Doomsday and used his laser vision! So much more cooler than those stupid old ones! Superman barely punches anything in those!
Why did the ship even have the means to turn a dead Zod into a giant Uruk-Hai Doomsday? Does that come standard? At this point I'll just assume that after Supes died, Luthor was going to milk Doomsy's tits for precious Kryptonian milk and sell it on the Facebooks.
Its like in the Godzilla movies when they wake him up to kill a kaiju and it kills the kaiju and then Godzilla is like fuck you and still destroys buildings but still not as much as Superman
I dunno. Maybe he had some fucking high or low pitched doomsday whistle that got him to stop and run back when it was used? "here doomsdaydoomsdaydoomsday! WHO'S a good BOY? WHO'S a good BOY? You killed superman? Yes you DID! yes you did. Here's biscut!"
There's nothing black about these markets. You can openly go there and contract viruses escaped from high security labs. It's actually super easy, barely an inconvenience.
@@christophzeit6282 I think it’s similar to Cavill. Both Cavill & Affleck would’ve easily become the definitive versions of these characters for decades if they’d had a writing team on par with the DC Animated Universe. Too bad they ended up in some evangelical Randian weirdo’s glorified destruction porn series.
@@kp1x to be fair you need a high IQ to understand batman vs superman it's themes are subtle and nuanced and the average viewer can't even grasp its sheer complexity
This review summed up: - Mike totally confused - Jay making completely logical points that the film-makers didn't think of - Rich just laughing at how bad it was...
Uncle Ben tells Spiderman "with great power comes great responsibility" Momma Kent tells Superman "you don't owe this world a damn thing". Why are we supposed to like this character again?
+SirPoofyPants really glad Snyder never got to make his own version of spiderman. imagine what that'd be like. uncle ben would be like "kill them all peter"
@@CarEdy23 Ben would be there letting himself get shot so that Peter keeps hiding his powers "What was I supposed to do, Aunt May? Let them die?" "Maybe"
The Dark Knight Returns’s ending fight with Superman works because Miller spent the whole book setting up their contrasting ideals caused by their different views and roles in a complex Cold War world, and how these two characters already have a relationship spanning decades. That fight had 20 years of in-universe buildup. Miller’s Batman is not a hero, he’s not an Iron Man. It’s not an Avengers type story, it’s an Old Man Logan type story, and you can’t put that character in what was supposed to be the DCEU’s first Avengers movie. You don’t put Old Man Logan in your very first X-men movie.
I would also point out that in "The Dark Knight Returns", neither Superman nor Batman wanted to kill each other. Superman was following orders to stop Batman, and Batman wanted to beat up Superman so that Superman would always remember that he could be beaten.
Yep. Rich was right about the parsec thing in the Han Solo movie, too, even though Mike scoffed at the idea. Rich is a lot smarter than even he gives himself credit for.
@@guyincognito82 After Endgame, I told my cousin I never thought I’d see the day where Marvel looks like they don’t know what to do, while DC is actually showing promise.
Bruce: "Well Alfred, I've been beating criminals to a pulp with my fists every night for the past 20 years, and perfecting hand to hand combat. Now that I'm facing a near-indestructible alien, I think it's time I tried something different..." Alfred: "Master Bruce, are you sure that's wi-" Batman: "A SPEAR!!!!!!!!!!"
+smt2542 yeah because its obviously way easier to kill someone by beating them instead of something to stab them..something long and sharp...from afar for safety... Especially if its a nearly indestructible alien with random superpowers like freezing this dinner's pizza and microwave it to eat the next day... Yeah BRASS KNUCKLES ARE WAY BETTER AND SMARTER!! Like are you for real??
The hardest I've ever laughed in my life at a movie theatre is the boob punch scene in Superbad. The second hardest I've ever laughed was this movie when they showed Metropolis and Gotham City SIDE BY SIDE. I swear to God that was a Simpsons gag some editor snuck in somehow.
Here's the part that always got me with Superman. He knows. He knows he's fucking terrifying, he knows that what he can do scares people, so how he deals with that is to be the best example of Mr. Truth Justice and The American Way, he smiles at everyone, rescues cats from trees, talks people down from killing themselves because he knows there's more to life than that and that's what makes people like him, he's supposed to be the heart. He takes the hits so his team doesn't have to because he knows that he can. He doesn't show up when people are begging to be saved by slowly floating over them and looking sad. He would save them all as fast as he can, tell them it's going to be alright, flash them a big smile and zip off to help someone else who needs it.
Which is fair enough man aye, that's a smart thing to do, assess a situation before you jump right in; But think about if that scene was done in the Justice League animated show (which everyone compares it to I know but there's a merit for it) first thing you can bet that Superman would do in that show is start talking to the folk as he arrived, letting them know they were gonna be alright, he was gonna help them etc. Now compare that to floating there in moot silence looking as mortified as the people you're there to save. Y'know what I mean man?
Laverne Blaszczyk "it should only take him a tenth of a second to grab one person fly them half way around the world," Superman, at this point of his life, couldn't fly nearly as fast as you're suggesting. Even if he could, the humans he rescued wouldn't be able to survive such a speed without oxygen being sucked out of their lungs.
+luckystriker they're also such delightful jerks to each other with their unflattering edits: see @ 16:31-- ua-cam.com/video/VGsrMaxx8N4/v-deo.htmlm31s
+Antonio Wakardo this movie is trash, at least Man of Steel has 1 forcus story. This movie(S) include 5 stories and none goes anywhere. Full of shoehorn.
So around the 33-34 minute mark they start joking about how DC should just get Marvel to make their movies, and laugh at the idea of Zack Snyder splitting the job of directing with somebody else... Are they seers?
It's like that episode where Adama and Cain were about to annihilate each other but then decided to instead band together against the bigger Cylon threat... wait
Richard Donner, when talking about the Superman film he directed said "you take the material seriously, but not yourself". Snyder has done the opposite, and this fartbag of a movie, as with MOS, is the result.
Richard Donner ~ While making Superman had a sign made for his office - It had Superman on it and featured the legend :-VERISIMILITUDE ! Think Snyder should have taken note !
@@stephenbirks6458 Donner's Jor El said Clark gets his powers from the red sun ..but it's the yellow sun 😒 He also got Faora's name wrong . THE SNYDER SUPERMAN: Learns about humanity by travelling place to place , job to job , situation to situation for years learning the good and bad of humanity. THE DONNER SUPERMAN: Learns about humanity by being isolated from them for 12 years to learn from crystals 😒
Henry Cavil was sitting there like "What the fuck are you talking about Ben, this is the dumbest movie Zack Snyder's ever made, and he made Sucker Punch."
20:30 Lex: _"You know the oldest lie in America, senator? Devils don't come from hell beneath us. They come from the sky."_ Who the f*ck says THAT, Lex?
You weren't supposed to question it! For MoS, people complained Superman didn't do enough to protect people during the fight, so they made it painfully obvious in BvS that no one is in danger. If we hear of emergency filming for Justice League tomorrow that just consists of random people throughout the ages all saying Lex's line, I'm blaming you.
God I fucking hate it when I go re-watch a scene from the movie to make sure that what I question about the movie is truly valid, some pretentious asshole comes out of nowhere and tells me that I need to have a high IQ to understand Snyder films. They are equivalent to fucking rick and morty fanboys
@@KneelB4Bacon What LeadFaun is saying is that the lie Lex Luther refers to is that "devils come from hell and hell is below the surface of the earth", not that "devils come from the sky". The idea of evil being below earth is common enough that he does not have to restate it; instead he presents his assertion that demons come from the sky. A longer version of his statement would be "The oldest lie in America is that devils come from hell beneath us. Devils don't come from beneath us; they come from the sky." I have no clue how that is the oldest lie in America, though. I think the idea of hell being subterranean is Christian.
Remember seeing a sign outside a picture house once it read what the movie was but underneath someone had scrawled :- You'll laugh , You'll cry , You'll -Kiss 6 bucks Goodbye !
A couple of weeks before BvS came out, I just randomly realized that B and S both had moms named Martha. It was a neat coincidence, but I shrugged it off, because no official media had yet made a big deal out of it, so why should I? Ah, the innocence of youth...
That save Martha scene really piss me off especially when Louis had to run after him and explain to Batman Who Martha is to Superman and I was like Superman couldn't have said that himself I obviously knew Bruce didn't know that Superman had A mom also named Martha he thought he was saying that about his mom which of course Bruce will of course going to freak out but Louis being there made no sense that Martha scenes sucks after that Batman goes and kills people what the fuck!
This is without a doubt one of the best videos RLM has ever produced, which is incredible bc they've remained consistent for years at this point. But this video stands out. I come back to it a couple times a year for that reason
My favourite part was the politics, at the big White House government building, that really sold me on all this being real their wasn’t enough diversity with the government officials people though, it’s not proper representation of our world. I’m just glad we can star a conversation about more gay men in politics, that would be very good for eveyone, because equally is better than bigotry! 3/5 stars
The martha thing could've made sense if the filmmakers had made it seem that Batman didn't kill Superman because he understood what losing a parent was like but they didn't do that. Batman helps Superman because both of their mothers are named martha.
I could see it if they implied that Batman saw the humanity in Superman, but they weren't even close. To the viewer, Superman had no humanity in this movie, so it doesn't make sense for Batman to see it. It's just so poorly executed. A shame, because I wanted this movie to win.
I totally agree with you. There's no connection in that scene. They didn't establish one. Yeah it's terrible, I really wanted to love this film too. I don't think we can expect much considering how bad Suicide Squad was too. I think DCU is going to keep making bad dark and brooding character dramas until they stop making money from them.
+Ingmar Fris I'm not saying I'm tired of Marvel, but I want to see what DC can bring to the table as long as it's worth my time and money and so far it ain't happening. I want to see a good Superman and Batman and all those iconic characters. Guess I'll always have the animated movies.
Imagine the people who don't normally watch RLM come to this review looking for Batman v Superman and get a 5 minute intro of Mike talking about milking Rich Evans.
@@zhengyingli Oh yeah? When was this established as a plan of batman in the movie's narrative? was there any setup? were there any hints of Batman ever planning this out? See, if there was any this would make a lot of sense, but it didn't, it just makes Batman look like a buffoon... And in the spirit of this movie anyway, he already is
Batman Superman and dark seaman are gonna cry then laugh and then they’re gonna have brunch and do each other’s nails over rose-spritzers and reruns of Dallas
+FullMetal Bat He's like Horror movie James Bond. Likes Aston Martins, banging hot ladies, drinking and killing dudes violently while dressed in a halloween costume. He's kinda like the Casino Royale Bond, just with a costume, a hangup about his parents instead of his girlfriend and even more unhealthy ideas about masculinity ("fear and blood makes you a maaaaan").
If the story takes elements from 'The Dark Knight Returns' comic series and had Frank Miller as a consultant, chances are *Spoilers:* The new Joker turns out to a psychotic Dick Grayson w/a super fast healing factor
"Doomsday is the key to all of this. If we get Doomsday working... because he is a funnier character than we ever had in the other movie." -Zack Snyder
I'm years too late for this conversation, but I have an interesting observation. Zack Snyder said that Batman not killing people is unrealistic. But, Christopher Nolan's Batman never kills, and yet those movies are way more realistic than Zack Snyder's.
With how many people batman has punched, he's killed someone, just not on purpose. But boxers die in the ring all the time and they have padded gloves.
@@JonathanMutsinzi1998 in Batmans defense hes bound to fuck up by punching someone a bit too hard and killing them. But even then he generally does as much as possible to not kill someone. Batman in BvS blew a car up in a fiery explosion and most definitely stabbed a guy. I don't think he was trying to minimize risk here at all.
I'm starting to think the Joker is actually a really easy character to portray, because not only has (almost) every actor that's portrayed him done an amazing job, but even actors playing other villains (Jim Carrey Riddler, Tommy Lee Jones' Two-Face, Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor, Ewan McGregor in the Birds of Prey movie) seem to do a good job at playing the Joker as well. Maybe it's just not a difficult role to play in the slightest (and yet somehow Jared Leto managed to fuck it up)
I think it's because joker as a character is really flexible and most professional actors can find a way to interpret him in a manner that fits their acting style.
Just put on something purple even it’s just a tank top, then paint your face with a hint of green in your hair, laugh maniacally in a high pitch for no reason while maybe throwing in a George Orwell Quote and then have your mom make you a joker costume
Gal is a model. She got the role because she's beautiful, not for her acting ability. She's pretty good in her own film, but I don't see the top directors queuing up to cast her for their most challenging roles.
Ironically, Frank Miller (who wrote many of the stories this film mis-adapts and references) hates the concept of "realistic" superheroes, or the "what if?" scenario this film is built around.
Yeah, despite being known for his "dark and gritty" interpretations of Daredevil and Batman, Miller never actually abandoned the fantasticism and humor associated with traditional comic book stories. The Dark Knight Returns featured the Joker riding around on a flying doll that shouted insults and spewed toxic laughing gas.
The fantastic elements weren't abandoned. Did you not notice kryptonite gas bombs, Doomsday, Batwing, batarangs, heat vision, time traveling Flash, 5000-year-old Amazon women, etc.? Nolan's movies were limited to the "realistic" elements, not Snyder's who FULLY embraces all the comic book elements. He even was the first director to not give Batman a black suit. The ridiculous, bogus criticisms of this movie never end.
jedijones Sure he didn't ABANDON those elements. But that's precisely the problem. He's telling this story set in "our" world (cameos by real-world celebrities reacting to the Superman crisis, real world chains, etc.) but without conforming to the real world's rules. He's trying to make a silly, over-the-top comic book movie set in a sci-fi/fantasy world while also telling a "Watchmen"-like "what if heroes existed in our real world?" story at the same time
@@frankmerker630 considering how their first Joker is gone, their first Batman is gone, Superman has stand up doubles in certain movies, Batman has stand up doubles even in his own movies in important scenes etc. no, not really. At least I can say for Star Wars that the actors showed up. I can't say that for DCEU.
Steve Rogers has no powers compared to Superman. He has the exact same gift as the Batman... the ability to indulge in self-righteousness and certainty because of his own limited power to impose it on others. The lack of great power, allows him to be irresponsibly absolute with limited consequences. It's a false- and frightening- equivalence to suggest Superman should inspire in the way Rogers does. Rogers with Superman's power is terrifying and it's horrifying to imagine people wanting a being of that power to pander to them in the same way. Instead, what does BvS show us? -Someone who could rule as tyrant... who instead serves mankind -Someone roundly criticized who could capture the spotlight to rebuff his critics... staying silent without ego. -Someone who could intervene in anything... who instead leaves mankind to make its own choices. -Someone who could unmask and undo the Batman... who instead offers the mercy of retirement. -Someone who could take the Batman's life for the sake of his mother... who instead offers his own. -Someone who is not beholden to human law... who tries to uphold it. -Someone who is not beholden to human governance... who submits himself to its authority. -Someone who has no need to submit to a boss... who submits to his boss as a human. -Someone who is not a human from Earth... who accepts his adoption and is incredibly human. If someone has that kind of power, I'm inspired by his incredible character and restraint in using it. It might be exciting to see those who oppose authority, compromise, procedure, and reason... and consider rebellion recommended... but Superman's power makes him an authority unto himself and his story is in how he refuses to force it on the world, not how he uses it to undo it.
@@zhengyingli I didn't say that superman should be inspired from steve roger nor steve rogers should have superman's power. I'm just simply stating that based captain america's personality is quite similar to what you will imagine modern superman would be, especially if you know superman from the animated series. Sure they are not 100% identical in terms of personality, but like I said they are similar, not identical. They’re both as heroic as it gets in comic books. There isn’t a hair’s breadth between them in that regard. Noble, upright, do what’s right just because it’s right, Boy Scouts, both of them. They are extremely similar characters. People who are focused on relative power levels are missing the point of comic book heroes. Powers come & powers go but moral rectitude is forever.
@@Arpin_Lusene And Superman would be a fearsome character with Steve's attitude. The relationship between the characters powers and their behaviors can't be understated since those powers have different consequences depending on the characters' actions. Imbued with Superman's powers, Captain America can't continue to behave the same and not have severe consequences.
@@zhengyingli In terms of morality they are both about as good as it gets. They always do what's right, regardless of how hard it is or what others will think. It's harder for Cap, of course, because he doesn't possess the godlike power that Superman has, but Superman also battles far more powerful enemies. Superman can call the shots more easily, because who is going to tell him no? If they switched powers, I don't think either would change. Superman would keep doing what's right, with less power, and Cap would keep doing what's right, with more power.
Too bad marvel sucks, the only decent shit they have is the X-Men and fantastic four, but guess what, we gonna get them in the MCU now, can't wait for the X-Men being turned into happy go lucky haha marvel humour jokes are Kool look at me I make mediocre films while sucking the life of the comic book industry for disgusting normies that can't read 👌👌👌😍😍🤪
I actually want Snyder to direct Justice League. That thing is going to be epic. I mean, you basically have an egocentric hypocritical alien and a murdering psychopath founding something called the "Justice League". That's like if Hitler and Genghis Khan founded the UN. They would probably nuke entire countries from orbit using the Watchtower.
What's going to stop them going forward from just establishing a dictatorship over the world? They clearly have no qualms about murdering people or destruction.
+Noisemaker50 you know, maybe this is all set up for the Justice Lords. Then when their justice league movie happens, the real justice league from another earth will stop them and save the franchise.
BigBossTooN I would forgive everything about how badly they fucked up Superman as a character in these movies if they reveal in a twist that he's actually Hank Henshaw. That would be fucking brilliant.
Superman: "Your moms named Martha too?" Batman: "Yep!" Superman: "Did we just become best friends?" Batman: "Yep!" Superman: "Do you wanna do karate in the garage?" Batman: "YEP!"
Seriously they are. I’ve never seen the rise of Skywalker but I’ve seen their 90min+ review of it and it’s hilarious [to me]. 20 years ago I wouldn’t have thought I’d be watching this kinda stuff. I think the best thing about these guys is that they’re not trying to be cool. I hate the fake “Hey how’s it going, aren’t I so happy?” plebs you see all over UA-cam. It’s like a leftover from the TV era
That photographer that gets executed by the terrorists in the beginning is Jimmy Olsen. Snyder's explanation for this is that "there's no room for Jimmy but we can still have fun with him, right?" -literal quote. Fuck this movie.
Man this film would have been awesome if they did a The Prestige plot where the two actually do get increasingly and over time really fucking spiteful of eachother with a clever payoff and the fanboy pleasing fight. Can't have anything like that now can we
I don't think you read much comics, the problem with Superman on cinema is because they never really knew him, it's like nobody read the god damn source material, they always go for the Superman and never the duality of the character, he is so dull, and that sucks, this is definitely my beef with the shitty super hero films thing we have now, 70% of them are just not good, no soul, just cash and grab for casuals that can't bother to god damn read
@@ferzum7290 oh, someone got so triggered he went on my profile Just to ser what i watch ahahahahahah well, If that aint pathetic, maybe your whole existance is God bless thosw things arent private, or else i would never see someone be such a joke without even being self aware
to me it wouldnt be so bad if batman and superman and lex had motivations and weren't total hypocrites...they preach preach preach and then in the end just destroy everything with no regard for human life...batman kills some people...which goes against his moral code...if batman were ever to kill someone on purpose, he would turn psychotic...and evil..at least thats how I always saw it cause hes already borderline....
I like your choice of words - PAINFULLY!! That perfectly describes this pretentious movie... Snyder literally screams BE AWED to the audience with every single shot in the film!!
Batman Laughed Snyder gives us illusions of sophistication and that pisses me off. He should just go ahead and be the Michael Bay he is within, rather than giving audiences unearned moments that proudly scream "NOTICE MY DIRECTING!! NOTICE MY DIRECTING!!"
*casting Lex Luthor*
"hey, get me that guy from Breaking Bad. I think his name is Eisenburg?"
"No problem boss."
hahahahaha
Jesse Heisenberg ;)
+MrFishman382 "the guy that always hangs around with Jesse", oh, Jesse Eisenberg
Ninth Glaive Thanks for reminding me to change this profile picture, lol. I've had it for years.
+MrFishman382 Oh my God, that would have been the perfect casting choice for this!
Now I'm even more frustrated with this movie!
If you're on another classic RLM binge, this is a checkpoint. We're here with you.
Theres nothing good on TV anymore, we understand.
dammit
*enthusiastic sega announcer voice with reverb*
CHECKPOINT!!
Holy shit you are absolutely right, the he-man new show sucked, so here I am.
How did you know?
I've been in an entertainment limbo for so damn long man...
“Have Zack Snyder direct half of the film.”
Oh boy they actually predicted the Justice League
Oh so true...
Snyder V Whedon: Dawn of Reshoots!
@@LordMalice6d9 explain the difference
Oh shit
@@4Legacy coincidences
“Let Zack Snyder direct half the movie and only that half will be all dark and murderous.” Another RLM foretelling.
And it was Joss Whedon, so in a way they did try and let Marvel handle it!
"You leave those children alone, Superman!"
LOL
"You leave those children alone, Superman!"
Do yourself a favor and watch a movie far better than this shit. Superman IV: A quest for peace.
Well, Pa Kent did tell Clark he shoulda let the kid die, sooo...
@@thatHARVguy Brilliant foreshadowing!! Pa Kent taught Superman the importance of killing all the children on all the buses.
Time for my monthly viewing of this episode
I have 3 things to do every month- Rewatching captain America 2, rewatching K2 series and Rewatching this episode.
Yes
Same
DC and star wars half in the bags are best.
Literally
I applaud Jay in this episode. I don’t know how he managed to keep a straight face while Mike talked about milking Rich Evans.
A bazillion reshoots?
I’m convinced that they actually split screen him in on some of these episodes where he has to keep a straight face. Like the WW84 episode too.
Totally honest question. Are they a gay couple?
@@mjdub1013 probably
... /s
@@mjdub1013 No, they transcend social norms.
This is peak RLM. Marvel was gaining steam, DC was shitting the bed with every new movie, and Star Wars was draining life from all of us.
Draining life from us? Only TFA had been released at this point. What you on about?
Feels like yesterday. I remember watching this right after I’d seen BVS in theaters. I was so pissed about how the movie turned out and this episode pretty much covered the main reasons why. Hard to believe that was almost five years ago.
Craig Hicks everybody loved TFA until it was popular to hate it and then everybody hated it
@@koberyan2880 no I hated the trailer and the movie confirmed my fears ...
@@koberyan2880 After leaving the theater I really liked it. It had the star wars feeling for me. Lightsabers, cool flight scenes, harrison ford... but after I see it the second time or the third time I more and more had problems with this film. But it was still a fun movie to me. Nothing big but we had no Jar Jar, no politics, no anakin...
Now? With all three movies I'm really angry and disapointed. There was no vision... no overall story. The only disney star wars I really liked was Solo because it was fun.
Rich: "who wants to watch MurderMan vs Captain Hypocrite?"
Mike: "...which one's which?"
lost it
MawBTS That was dumb, because Superman didn't murder anyone in these films, so he couldn't be murderman.
But he also couldn't be Captain Hypocrite, because that implies he's guilty of the same behavior as MurderMan. It's just a joke, not a literal statement of fact. Jokes are often exaggerated for effect.
@@zhengyingli But all those buildings that fell over in Man of Steel...
@@zhengyingli One word for you: Zod.
@@mjsj2 He killed Zod, but didn't murder him.
"You leave these children alone, Superman!"
Killed me. Again.
I'm more interested in hearing spoilers and discussion about this movie than I am in watching the actual film.
+FlyingOverTr0ut To be fair, there is nothing to "spoil". From the last trailer you can guess the whole plot.
Agreed. I don't really like superman in general and i don't care for a new batman so quickly. It also has a bunch of other characters that maybe cool, but the movie isn't about them. There really isn't much in it for me in the actual movie.
Agreed. I don't really like superman in general and i don't care for a new batman so quickly. It also has a bunch of other characters that maybe cool, but the movie isn't about them. There really isn't much in it for me in the actual movie.
+FlyingOverTr0ut It works so well that I actually watched 80% of their reviews without watching the films.
I'm so not following "films" that RLM could totally make them up and it would work just as well.
Copperbeard Plot points weren't so much spoiled (well, they were, but they're so bad that I prefer hearing them versus seeing them myself) as the shockingly bad filmmaking, which I enjoy hearing about. That, and the now famous jar of piss from Lex Luthor.
I would be scared shitless if I heard Rich Evans laughing behind me in a movie theater
I would deem it a Christmas miracle, regardless of the current month
Really? I would spontaneously orgasm!
Why, but it's the most innocent laugh of a harmless child.
Yes, if it was an adult movie theatre
I would just be annoyed. I just started watching this channel so maybe he will grow on me, but as of now he's the most annoying human I've ever seen
Zach Snyder looks like someone tried to sculpt Mark Ruffalo from memory
not funny
Didn’t laugh
Fucking laughed my ass off
Mark Ruffalo looks like someone tried to sculpt Josh Brolin from memory.
Mark Ruffalo looks like someone started to film themselves peeling a potato then stopped halfway through.
Either you saw that somewhere else, or that’s the best thing I’ve read on UA-cam in a LONG TIME 😂
"I don't want to watch a feature film with her" -Mike Stoklassa 2016
"I loved it" - Mike Stoklassa 2017
Visual Aids wonder woman was a pleasant surprise given man of steel and BvS. There was nothing to suggest WW would be any good
The trick was that Zack Snyder wasn't allowed in the room while Wonder Woman was being made
D F Credited as Executive Producer and Writer. Lol.
"Story by" credit.
That's what happens when a good director can turn something good out of a bad actress.
Bad director+mediocre actress=BvS
years later and im still baffled that the scriptwriters thought the words"the bat is dead, consider this mercy" is something that superman would said.
zack snyder and the writers watched kill bill and decided to base supermans' entire character off bills' dumb "clark kent is supermans' mask"monologue
yea like almost half of the things Superman says are things fucking Batman would say
I know nothing about the source material, but the idea of a mere earthling without any superpowers fighting Superman is ridiculous. Does that come from the comics?
@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 yes and it's always obvious how plot armored batman is whenever they fight
@@Vapor817 How the hell "The Dark Knight Returns" is such an iconic comic book, then?
“If there’s even a 1% chance he’s our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certainty.”
“You have to save Martha.”
“Okay.”
The moment batman realises he has almost become the one thing he hates, a monster. Actually a pretty interesting scene. Could have been done better but what are ya gonna do
@@Alexander-hj8vk works only if this batman hasn't been blasting other people to begin with he's already a monster
@@moonlightrouge3956 those aren’t innocent people, martha is. If he were to be the reason an innocent person dies that would make him no better than his parents killer
@@Alexander-hj8vk The idea of Batman thinking he became that which took his parents makes no sense for a simple reason.His parents got killed by a mugger in a botched roberry. Bats wants to kill Supes because he thinks hes too dangerous and threatens humanity( not so subtle allusion to the Dick Cheney 1% doctrine). Does it really seem believable that a guy like that would say 'oh Im just like the mugger who shot my folks'? You may be willing to believe it but I know how ideologues with murderous intent act. Trust me in the real world if they hear Martha they're not gonna stop melodramatically certainly not in this context.
@@florinivan6907 maybe if this was the 5th movie instead of the 2nd one it would work.
Supposing Doomsday won, how was Lex going to stop him? Presuming he had a weapon to kill Doomsday, then why not use that weapon to kill Superman?
You just don't understand the cinematic markers that Zach Snyder uses! You're a hack fraud who probably fanboys over Christian Bale! It's so obvious that Lex Luthor had a back up plan in case Doomsday won you idiot! It's so obvious that I'm not going to explain it at all! Besides that ending was so awesome! It was awesome when Superman punched Doomsday and used his laser vision! So much more cooler than those stupid old ones! Superman barely punches anything in those!
+Adamatronamus oh, well. It's just I got this weird memo from DC...
Why did the ship even have the means to turn a dead Zod into a giant Uruk-Hai Doomsday? Does that come standard? At this point I'll just assume that after Supes died, Luthor was going to milk Doomsy's tits for precious Kryptonian milk and sell it on the Facebooks.
Its like in the Godzilla movies when they wake him up to kill a kaiju and it kills the kaiju and then Godzilla is like fuck you and still destroys buildings but still not as much as Superman
I dunno. Maybe he had some fucking high or low pitched doomsday whistle that got him to stop and run back when it was used? "here doomsdaydoomsdaydoomsday! WHO'S a good BOY? WHO'S a good BOY? You killed superman? Yes you DID! yes you did. Here's biscut!"
Here after the Coronavirus outbreak caused by the unregulated black market man milk trade.
TAINTED MILK. There's probably macarena milk out there, too...
There's nothing black about these markets. You can openly go there and contract viruses escaped from high security labs.
It's actually super easy, barely an inconvenience.
same
man when that market went udder, i lost it all
@Jimmy Rustling I like "ManTeatz Treatz" because it sounds l33t, but there's also "Hairy Juices", but I think that's some a different tap.
Man, Ben Affleck sounded so full of energy and optimism before the movie came out.
@@christophzeit6282 I think he's already dead inside
@@christophzeit6282 I think it’s similar to Cavill. Both Cavill & Affleck would’ve easily become the definitive versions of these characters for decades if they’d had a writing team on par with the DC Animated Universe. Too bad they ended up in some evangelical Randian weirdo’s glorified destruction porn series.
@@kp1x, yes it’s our fault the movie with two of the most iconic heroes in all modern fiction failed. Our fault.
''Hello darkness my old friend, I've come to talk with you again...''
@@kp1x to be fair you need a high IQ to understand batman vs superman it's themes are subtle and nuanced and the average viewer can't even grasp its sheer complexity
"Dont hurl the bus superman its filled with children!" lost it.
You leave those children alone...Superman!
That episode alone makes me want Zod to try and get Superman to calm down as Clark casually murders People
@@dylanbuchanan6511 Like a red kryptonite story.
THE BUS IS FILLED WITH CHILDRE- OH FUCK
Superman:
🚌💪😤
Zod:
😱🙅♂️🚫👶
This review summed up:
- Mike totally confused
- Jay making completely logical points that the film-makers didn't think of
- Rich just laughing at how bad it was...
Donot change the likes. I like it at 666
@@dios12300 5 away from 999
“Is that the movie where a cop teams up with an orc?”
Did Jay predict Bright almost two years early?!
I have the same question. I’ll try to ask them on prev rec 🤣
Well max Landis wrote that screenplay, he might have stole it from/told it ti jay
It was in the news back then, and was being made fun of immediately.
Bright was written by Max Landis. They were all friends by the time of this video.
No, they're friends with Max Landis. He had just sold the script when this episode came out.
Uncle Ben tells Spiderman "with great power comes great responsibility"
Momma Kent tells Superman "you don't owe this world a damn thing".
Why are we supposed to like this character again?
+SirPoofyPants really glad Snyder never got to make his own version of spiderman. imagine what that'd be like. uncle ben would be like "kill them all peter"
@@CarEdy23
Ben would be there letting himself get shot so that Peter keeps hiding his powers
"What was I supposed to do, Aunt May? Let them die?"
"Maybe"
Because he saves everyone when he doesn't have to/
We should not and do not
The Dark Knight Returns’s ending fight with Superman works because Miller spent the whole book setting up their contrasting ideals caused by their different views and roles in a complex Cold War world, and how these two characters already have a relationship spanning decades. That fight had 20 years of in-universe buildup. Miller’s Batman is not a hero, he’s not an Iron Man. It’s not an Avengers type story, it’s an Old Man Logan type story, and you can’t put that character in what was supposed to be the DCEU’s first Avengers movie. You don’t put Old Man Logan in your very first X-men movie.
You are so right dude
True they made Batman an asshole right off the bat
@@None-Trick_Pony Actually, “Returns’s” is grammatically acceptable as well
I would also point out that in "The Dark Knight Returns", neither Superman nor Batman wanted to kill each other. Superman was following orders to stop Batman, and Batman wanted to beat up Superman so that Superman would always remember that he could be beaten.
^^^^
I love how they stare at Rich like he's crazy when he guesses it was the Flash time-traveling. A year later we found out it literally was Flash.
Why did you feel a need to a 'literally' to your sentence?
@@kusipaa8683 Oh. I don't know. It literally ruined the flow of that sentence.
Yep. Rich was right about the parsec thing in the Han Solo movie, too, even though Mike scoffed at the idea. Rich is a lot smarter than even he gives himself credit for.
@@lightsideendings5815 lol vindicated
The Flash was what I thought too. I didn't know that was even supposed to be mysterious.
It’s 2022 and this video is still my go-to relaxation content. Its an equivalent of a doobie, I consume this video and I just chuckle for 40 minutes.
Damn straight
It's sad seeing people still have hope for the MCU and looking at what phase 4 has done so far is heartbreaking. 🤣🤣
@@guyincognito82 After Endgame, I told my cousin I never thought I’d see the day where Marvel looks like they don’t know what to do, while DC is actually showing promise.
For me it's the Ghostbusters 2016 review
@@The_October_Man Endgame not only left me with no motivation to watch future Marvel content, but no motivation to ever rewatch Endgame either.
Kryptonite brass knuckles wouldve been fucking awesome
Bruce: "Well Alfred, I've been beating criminals to a pulp with my fists every night for the past 20 years, and perfecting hand to hand combat. Now that I'm facing a near-indestructible alien, I think it's time I tried something different..."
Alfred: "Master Bruce, are you sure that's wi-"
Batman: "A SPEAR!!!!!!!!!!"
+smt2542 or what about a kryptonite bazooka?
It actually happened in fucking Batman:Silence. Why don´t use the idea again? Well it´s a ring but it works the same.
+smt2542 yeah because its obviously way easier to kill someone by beating them instead of something to stab them..something long and sharp...from afar for safety... Especially if its a nearly indestructible alien with random superpowers like freezing this dinner's pizza and microwave it to eat the next day... Yeah BRASS KNUCKLES ARE WAY BETTER AND SMARTER!! Like are you for real??
kato093
Zack, is that you?
The hardest I've ever laughed in my life at a movie theatre is the boob punch scene in Superbad.
The second hardest I've ever laughed was this movie when they showed Metropolis and Gotham City SIDE BY SIDE. I swear to God that was a Simpsons gag some editor snuck in somehow.
Here's the part that always got me with Superman.
He knows. He knows he's fucking terrifying, he knows that what he can do scares people, so how he deals with that is to be the best example of Mr. Truth Justice and The American Way, he smiles at everyone, rescues cats from trees, talks people down from killing themselves because he knows there's more to life than that and that's what makes people like him, he's supposed to be the heart. He takes the hits so his team doesn't have to because he knows that he can.
He doesn't show up when people are begging to be saved by slowly floating over them and looking sad. He would save them all as fast as he can, tell them it's going to be alright, flash them a big smile and zip off to help someone else who needs it.
Jgt612 That flood scene actually demonstrated a conundrum for Superman, that's why he was floating in the air surveying the situation.
Which is fair enough man aye, that's a smart thing to do, assess a situation before you jump right in;
But think about if that scene was done in the Justice League animated show (which everyone compares it to I know but there's a merit for it) first thing you can bet that Superman would do in that show is start talking to the folk as he arrived, letting them know they were gonna be alright, he was gonna help them etc.
Now compare that to floating there in moot silence looking as mortified as the people you're there to save. Y'know what I mean man?
Laverne Blaszczyk Whom to save first.
Laverne Blaszczyk "it should only take him a tenth of a second to grab one person fly them half way around the world," Superman, at this point of his life, couldn't fly nearly as fast as you're suggesting. Even if he could, the humans he rescued wouldn't be able to survive such a speed without oxygen being sucked out of their lungs.
DUDE. Its homage to the comics. Where these characters are from. What. The. Fuck.
The fact that "Martha My Dear" by The Beatles is played at the perfect time in this video cannot be understated
24:44 i just realized too, and Mike looks directly at the camera, truly a Beatles fan.
@@vulpix2001 Except that he erroneously believes Ringo is a hack musician.
Thank god someone said it
Me when “Martha My Dear” comes on-
“I KNOW WHAT IS!!!!!!!!!!!”
Aquaman's the key to all this. If we can get him working...because he's a fishier character than we've ever had before.
“You leave those children alone Superman!” Awesome! Rich Evans is a national treasure.
I like to rewatch this one once in a while. Classic RLM.
I watched this more times than MoS and BvS combined.
@@HateshWarkio smart move
“Once in awhile”... me too. Only once in awhile. Not every other week. No.
@@unclebensrice4702 ight big cheese bill
@verbadum22 Bars!
Movie 5/10. Half in the bag ep 106 10/10.
+luckystriker come on this movie was very nice, for a action movie. easy 7/10
Man of Steel was a 2/10
Antonio Wakardo No man, I had a really strong reaction to the movie. Disliked it intensely.
+luckystriker 5/7
+luckystriker they're also such delightful jerks to each other with their unflattering edits: see @ 16:31-- ua-cam.com/video/VGsrMaxx8N4/v-deo.htmlm31s
+Antonio Wakardo this movie is trash, at least Man of Steel has 1 forcus story. This movie(S) include 5 stories and none goes anywhere. Full of shoehorn.
Dear god, the milking half in the bag skit predicted The Last Jedi...
Top 10 anime foreshadowing
"Yoda want milking!"
Unrelated, but people who complain about that scene makes no sense that's just pathetic to complain about seeing him drink
@Ryker Maybe they kept it in... symbolism of how feminist's are providing the "new" sustenance for SW fans.... gag.
@@zenv9180 it's also pathetic to complain about people complaining about a fucking movie that doesn't matter
This isn't enough for me anymore. I want to see these awful directors actually on the show, being questioned and shouted at by drunk VCR repairmen.
You have issues.
@@transfo47 and you have no sense of humor?
@UCbi54Bayy5r8wtLR4hgeknQ shut the fuck up cultists
@@ollieguy6781 and throw bottles at him.
@@transfo47 I hope you get the help you need.
"I liked the depressing montage of Superman saving people." That made me laugh so hard.
So around the 33-34 minute mark they start joking about how DC should just get Marvel to make their movies, and laugh at the idea of Zack Snyder splitting the job of directing with somebody else... Are they seers?
PainCausingSamurai Snyder isn't a very good director
Maybe. I think they just know how Hollywood Hacks think.
Sounds like a certain film by DC that came out last year...oh yeah! It was ‘Umaru-chan v Kanye West: Infinity Fortnite’
Actually no. Little known fact that many big names in Hollywood watch their programming. They never get credit.
Maxime Deslauriers not really little know for people that follow rlm for the last few years.
Murderman v Captain Hypocrite: Dawn of Aids
+theeholygoalie *AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDSSS
+theeholygoalie @12:30 Which one is which? :-)
+Robert Paulson the only people who don't think aids is funny... are people with aids💀💀
+mike w or Hypocrites
+Zombifyed hypocrites? that went over my head
Throwback to 2016 when people were more excited for this video than the movie…
A movie so bad Mike couldn't even work a Star Trek reference in.
Capt'Wes Starwind wrong! He talks about Spock punching people 🖖🤜🏼
25:35
To be fair, that’s Abrams Trek, not real Star Trek
@@frankmerker630 I'll accept that answer.
It's like that episode where Adama and Cain were about to annihilate each other but then decided to instead band together against the bigger Cylon threat... wait
Richard Donner, when talking about the Superman film he directed said "you take the material seriously, but not yourself".
Snyder has done the opposite, and this fartbag of a movie, as with MOS, is the result.
@@idrinkmilk282 as good as a bag full of diarrhea.
Richard Donner endorsed Snyder and gave advice that Snyder followed..That's how stupid you haters are
@@dignerds wow really? That's also makes Zack stupid. Got advice from one the best filmmakers and ended up with a hand full of shit.
Richard Donner ~ While making Superman had a sign made for his office - It had Superman on it and featured the legend :-VERISIMILITUDE !
Think Snyder should have taken note !
@@stephenbirks6458 Donner's Jor El said Clark gets his powers from the red sun ..but it's the yellow sun 😒
He also got Faora's name wrong .
THE SNYDER SUPERMAN: Learns about humanity by travelling place to place , job to job , situation to situation for years learning the good and bad of humanity.
THE DONNER SUPERMAN:
Learns about humanity by being isolated from them for 12 years to learn from crystals 😒
"Less loud and stupid than I was hoping for, but more confusing." They should have put that on the poster.
"No bad middle wchool jokes every 5 minutes and 7 sequels,1 prequel leading up to it" they should have had that on the poster
@@thundercleez7699 what you tryna say? That was incoherent
Henry Cavil was sitting there like "What the fuck are you talking about Ben, this is the dumbest movie Zack Snyder's ever made, and he made Sucker Punch."
20:30 Lex: _"You know the oldest lie in America, senator? Devils don't come from hell beneath us. They come from the sky."_
Who the f*ck says THAT, Lex?
You weren't supposed to question it!
For MoS, people complained Superman didn't do enough to protect people during the fight, so they made it painfully obvious in BvS that no one is in danger.
If we hear of emergency filming for Justice League tomorrow that just consists of random people throughout the ages all saying Lex's line, I'm blaming you.
God I fucking hate it when I go re-watch a scene from the movie to make sure that what I question about the movie is truly valid, some pretentious asshole comes out of nowhere and tells me that I need to have a high IQ to understand Snyder films. They are equivalent to fucking rick and morty fanboys
@LeadFaun Nope. Lex literally SAYS that "devils don't come from hell beneath us." Words MEAN things.
@@KneelB4Bacon What LeadFaun is saying is that the lie Lex Luther refers to is that "devils come from hell and hell is below the surface of the earth", not that "devils come from the sky". The idea of evil being below earth is common enough that he does not have to restate it; instead he presents his assertion that demons come from the sky.
A longer version of his statement would be "The oldest lie in America is that devils come from hell beneath us. Devils don't come from beneath us; they come from the sky."
I have no clue how that is the oldest lie in America, though. I think the idea of hell being subterranean is Christian.
Catzilla I believe there is some reference in the Bible about the devils domain is in the air , but don’t quote me on that
"When i see a superhero movie i want to come out of the theater crying"
They predicted logan
We do come out of the movies crying ...For all the wrong reasons !
Remember seeing a sign outside a picture house once it read what the movie was but underneath someone had scrawled :-
You'll laugh , You'll cry , You'll -Kiss 6 bucks Goodbye !
Yes, Logan was excellent.
And for many people, Endgame too
Joker too?
Wow, rich predicted the plot of justice league wow
That's ridiculous. Justice League didn't even have a plot.
he predicted the director tho lol
Hi, Kyubey daisuki
Lol
I mean... they are usually right lol
If I ever get cancer my make a wish is to go to the cinema with Rich Evans.
Not if I give myself cancer first!
If you need a nurse, l'll work for free if I can go with y'all to the movie!!
He'll only go with you if you have AAAAAAAAIDS.
Rich would only agree to it if you had AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDS!
Rich Evans secret audio recordings should be the new thing in half in the bag.
"It's Murder Man vs Captain Hypocrite"
I die laughing
A couple of weeks before BvS came out, I just randomly realized that B and S both had moms named Martha. It was a neat coincidence, but I shrugged it off, because no official media had yet made a big deal out of it, so why should I? Ah, the innocence of youth...
funniest part at 26:08
3 edgy 5 me
Batman goes "ma ma? Mama!"
PS: Am I not a fraud if I knew the Lovecraft one?
Don’t worry, that had very little importance in the movie
That save Martha scene really piss me off especially when Louis had to run after him and explain to Batman Who Martha is to Superman and I was like Superman couldn't have said that himself I obviously knew Bruce didn't know that Superman had A mom also named Martha he thought he was saying that about his mom which of course Bruce will of course going to freak out but Louis being there made no sense that Martha scenes sucks after that Batman goes and kills people what the fuck!
This is without a doubt one of the best videos RLM has ever produced, which is incredible bc they've remained consistent for years at this point. But this video stands out. I come back to it a couple times a year for that reason
I’m rewatching for the third or fourth time. It gets funnier
Okay what is RLM i keep seeing it lol
@@davidjaramillo8513it's short for Red Letter Media, the channel you're watching lol.
One of the best RLM episodes in all of recorded history. I've watched it so many times my unborn descendants are tired of it.
Also Batman was murdering people with guns, you know the weapon that killed his parents, that he said he would never use.
So true..
+EvanSol919 Wasn't that in a dream sequence?
+whowhatiz And he shot a dude with an M60.
Laughed uncontrollably at "Dawn of AIIIIIIIIIDS."
I think I'm going to remember "Dawn of AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSS!" even on my death bed!!!
My favourite part was the politics, at the big White House government building, that really sold me on all this being real their wasn’t enough diversity with the government officials people though, it’s not proper representation of our world. I’m just glad we can star a conversation about more gay men in politics, that would be very good for eveyone, because equally is better than bigotry! 3/5 stars
Zack Snyder filming half the film and Marvel filming the other half is scarily close to what actually happened with Justice League
DC has now hired James Gunn to take over so these guys were on top of it again.
The martha thing could've made sense if the filmmakers had made it seem that Batman didn't kill Superman because he understood what losing a parent was like but they didn't do that. Batman helps Superman because both of their mothers are named martha.
I don't think this explanation works but I think they could have made that make sense if the rest of the film wasn't so bad.
I could see it if they implied that Batman saw the humanity in Superman, but they weren't even close. To the viewer, Superman had no humanity in this movie, so it doesn't make sense for Batman to see it. It's just so poorly executed. A shame, because I wanted this movie to win.
I totally agree with you. There's no connection in that scene. They didn't establish one. Yeah it's terrible, I really wanted to love this film too. I don't think we can expect much considering how bad Suicide Squad was too. I think DCU is going to keep making bad dark and brooding character dramas until they stop making money from them.
+Ingmar Fris I'm not saying I'm tired of Marvel, but I want to see what DC can bring to the table as long as it's worth my time and money and so far it ain't happening. I want to see a good Superman and Batman and all those iconic characters. Guess I'll always have the animated movies.
I'm not tired of Marvel either. As do I. I'm just not exactly looking forward to a new DC movie.
“This movie has hints of movies to come, but none of it is clever.”
“And there will also be NO MOVIES to come.”
Rich fucking CALLED it.
But there were movies to come... movies came out after this following this timeline..
This comment aged like me. Not well.
Imagine the people who don't normally watch RLM come to this review looking for Batman v Superman and get a 5 minute intro of Mike talking about milking Rich Evans.
at least if they stick around after the 5min they can enjoy RLM cause its great. Also, holy shit I'm glad you're back on UA-cam.
I'm so desensitized to this shit that I wouldn't have considered that beautiful image. Thank you.
+Jesus De La Herran Yeah Half in the Bag is like two shows, I love it so much, also holy shit thanks!
The scene that bugs me the most in this film is Batman shooting a tracking device onto the truck and then immediately attacking it.
Yeah, that didn't really make any sense from the start...
Dapoo 67 Why wouldn't Batman chase after the truck?
@@zhengyingli Why did he? What was his endgame, when he placed the tracker only to steal the kryptonite off screen?
@@seantylerfermin4927 The tracker was a contingency plan just in case he couldn't get it on the way.
@@zhengyingli Oh yeah? When was this established as a plan of batman in the movie's narrative? was there any setup? were there any hints of Batman ever planning this out? See, if there was any this would make a lot of sense, but it didn't, it just makes Batman look like a buffoon... And in the spirit of this movie anyway, he already is
Amy Adams bathtub scene is still worth the ticket price
I swear I saw her nipple for a brief second!
+Shang Tsung The Supes and Bats beefcake made quite a few women happy
In 3D! Ah, yeah!
Maybe before the internet.
But now?
Hell no.
+Shang Tsung The most exciting part of the movie.
You can tell Rich is trying to keep a straight face while Mike is talking about milking him.
Lets just hope Darkseid's mom is not named Martha as well...
+Zomious There was actually a lot more to that end of fight scene. Donno why they missed it.
benbennit even if that's true it's hard to take it seriously when you have Batman yelling "why did you say that name."
her name's Heggra. That's somehow even worse than being named Martha. He already had her killed.
Batman Superman and dark seaman are gonna cry then laugh and then they’re gonna have brunch and do each other’s nails over rose-spritzers and reruns of Dallas
@@bkk397 No, they go out for coffee and chat good naturedly! Haven't you seen the thing that I've seen?! Geez...
MurderMan v Captain Hypocrite: Dawn of Electric Justice
Dawn of Martha ft cave troll and cameo woman
Tychoxi Murderman v Martha: Yawn of Just Ass
Man of Steel 2: Electric Boogaloo!
Tychoxi Yep.
White Captain Steroids vs Alcoholic robot shit
The skit before the review is some of the funniest shit I've ever seen. Yep...
laz kar Oh god yeah.
laz kar well it was a movie...
wh-b-nyeehhhh...
+kalibos HEY FUCKO!
+kalibos Oh yeah.
Batman didn't want to beat the shit out of Superman to be fair.... he just wants to impale his face with a kryptonite spear!
yeah
Is that why he slowly dragged it across his face and took his sweet time with him.
+Orion Maximus Well first he wanted to "show him what it means to be a man".
paperbackwriter1111 Zack Snyder's Batman comes across as one of those kids who pulled the legs off bugs.
+FullMetal Bat He's like Horror movie James Bond. Likes Aston Martins, banging hot ladies, drinking and killing dudes violently while dressed in a halloween costume. He's kinda like the Casino Royale Bond, just with a costume, a hangup about his parents instead of his girlfriend and even more unhealthy ideas about masculinity ("fear and blood makes you a maaaaan").
"You know, the dust wears off, but brass knuckles last forever" - Rich Evans
He should be a military tactician or something.
@@clintronious he can, he finish pokemon fire red with just mega punch and with low text speed
@@ferzum7290 ????
Batman kills a bunch of henchmen in this film, but Joker is still alive??
Why wouldn't Batman kill The Joker in this universe?
Because the script says so.
ryder mccall he did but joker is a magic immortal now. it was just cut from suicide squad.
because AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIDSS!!!
If the story takes elements from 'The Dark Knight Returns' comic series and had Frank Miller as a consultant, chances are *Spoilers:*
The new Joker turns out to a psychotic Dick Grayson w/a super fast healing factor
Because BatJokes is real lol
"Doomsday is the key to all of this. If we get Doomsday working... because he is a funnier character than we ever had in the other movie." -Zack Snyder
+Kokorov 3 I thought turkish airlines was key.
I'm years too late for this conversation, but I have an interesting observation. Zack Snyder said that Batman not killing people is unrealistic. But, Christopher Nolan's Batman never kills, and yet those movies are way more realistic than Zack Snyder's.
With how many people batman has punched, he's killed someone, just not on purpose. But boxers die in the ring all the time and they have padded gloves.
PrinceJack lies all live action Batman's have killed
@@JonathanMutsinzi1998 Yup
@@JonathanMutsinzi1998 in Batmans defense hes bound to fuck up by punching someone a bit too hard and killing them. But even then he generally does as much as possible to not kill someone. Batman in BvS blew a car up in a fiery explosion and most definitely stabbed a guy. I don't think he was trying to minimize risk here at all.
Except Christopher Nolan's Batman does kill people, you clueless idiot. A lot of people.
I'm starting to think the Joker is actually a really easy character to portray, because not only has (almost) every actor that's portrayed him done an amazing job, but even actors playing other villains (Jim Carrey Riddler, Tommy Lee Jones' Two-Face, Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor, Ewan McGregor in the Birds of Prey movie) seem to do a good job at playing the Joker as well. Maybe it's just not a difficult role to play in the slightest (and yet somehow Jared Leto managed to fuck it up)
I don't particularly think Leto fucked it up. It was a terrible script - edgy emo gangsta joker. He didn't have much to work with tbh
I think it's because joker as a character is really flexible and most professional actors can find a way to interpret him in a manner that fits their acting style.
The best not-joker joker performance is Wesley Snipes in Demolition Man.
Just put on something purple even it’s just a tank top, then paint your face with a hint of green in your hair, laugh maniacally in a high pitch for no reason while maybe throwing in a George Orwell Quote and then have your mom make you a joker costume
@@vincenthalfprice9930 make sure you have the shells ready
Yes, the scene where Murderman rescues Martha from the explosion was inappropriately placed, but at least HE knew how to be COOL about fire safety!
It's been more than 3 years...why can't I stop watching this episode?
They were all on point
I really feel for Amy when Gal talks about strong, beautiful women. The look on her face says it all.
you can just tell how fucking dumb Gal is - I wouldn't even be mad at her
Gal is a model. She got the role because she's beautiful, not for her acting ability. She's pretty good in her own film, but I don't see the top directors queuing up to cast her for their most challenging roles.
@@tyrellharper6480 If by "once" you mean "still is", then yeah.
@@roundabout468
Very milfy
I cannot believe how on the spot Rich was about how they handled the resurrection of Superman in Justice League.
Ironically, Frank Miller (who wrote many of the stories this film mis-adapts and references) hates the concept of "realistic" superheroes, or the "what if?" scenario this film is built around.
Yeah, despite being known for his "dark and gritty" interpretations of Daredevil and Batman, Miller never actually abandoned the fantasticism and humor associated with traditional comic book stories. The Dark Knight Returns featured the Joker riding around on a flying doll that shouted insults and spewed toxic laughing gas.
The fantastic elements weren't abandoned. Did you not notice kryptonite gas bombs, Doomsday, Batwing, batarangs, heat vision, time traveling Flash, 5000-year-old Amazon women, etc.? Nolan's movies were limited to the "realistic" elements, not Snyder's who FULLY embraces all the comic book elements. He even was the first director to not give Batman a black suit. The ridiculous, bogus criticisms of this movie never end.
jedijones Sure he didn't ABANDON those elements. But that's precisely the problem. He's telling this story set in "our" world (cameos by real-world celebrities reacting to the Superman crisis, real world chains, etc.) but without conforming to the real world's rules. He's trying to make a silly, over-the-top comic book movie set in a sci-fi/fantasy world while also telling a "Watchmen"-like "what if heroes existed in our real world?" story at the same time
+jedijones you're special aren't you?
I mean Frank Miller is also an insane person who forgot how to write stories that make sense...
Rich's laugh is too pure for this world.
"Recruit more apes, more pushers." - D.C. Exec, apparently.
Bill, scourge of the Earth, Bill...
And this is why I Ctrl-F the comment section first
One of the best Half in the Bag episodes
I *love* the way Mike leans forward in his seat in utter disbelief when rich guesses that it was the flash warning Bruce about lois
"Yes."
- Rich Evans, 2016
Watching this post Endgame really highlights how poorly thought out the DCEU was. It never stood a chance
To be fair, it looks expertly crafted in comparison with Star Wars
@@frankmerker630 considering how their first Joker is gone, their first Batman is gone, Superman has stand up doubles in certain movies, Batman has stand up doubles even in his own movies in important scenes etc. no, not really.
At least I can say for Star Wars that the actors showed up. I can't say that for DCEU.
Frank Merker
The Star Wars movies were not that bad. They weren’t great but they weren’t terrible on the level of the DC movies.
@@croisaor2308 Well Rise of Skywalker was worse than this lol
@Stevo Ok dude bro man
17:53 I think captain america's personality would be the closest to modern superman interpretation.
Steve Rogers has no powers compared to Superman. He has the exact same gift as the Batman... the ability to indulge in self-righteousness and certainty because of his own limited power to impose it on others. The lack of great power, allows him to be irresponsibly absolute with limited consequences. It's a false- and frightening- equivalence to suggest Superman should inspire in the way Rogers does. Rogers with Superman's power is terrifying and it's horrifying to imagine people wanting a being of that power to pander to them in the same way. Instead, what does BvS show us?
-Someone who could rule as tyrant... who instead serves mankind
-Someone roundly criticized who could capture the spotlight to rebuff his critics... staying silent without ego.
-Someone who could intervene in anything... who instead leaves mankind to make its own choices.
-Someone who could unmask and undo the Batman... who instead offers the mercy of retirement.
-Someone who could take the Batman's life for the sake of his mother... who instead offers his own.
-Someone who is not beholden to human law... who tries to uphold it.
-Someone who is not beholden to human governance... who submits himself to its authority.
-Someone who has no need to submit to a boss... who submits to his boss as a human.
-Someone who is not a human from Earth... who accepts his adoption and is incredibly human.
If someone has that kind of power, I'm inspired by his incredible character and restraint in using it. It might be exciting to see those who oppose authority, compromise, procedure, and reason... and consider rebellion recommended... but Superman's power makes him an authority unto himself and his story is in how he refuses to force it on the world, not how he uses it to undo it.
@@zhengyingli I didn't say that superman should be inspired from steve roger nor steve rogers should have superman's power. I'm just simply stating that based captain america's personality is quite similar to what you will imagine modern superman would be, especially if you know superman from the animated series. Sure they are not 100% identical in terms of personality, but like I said they are similar, not identical.
They’re both as heroic as it gets in comic books. There isn’t a hair’s breadth between them in that regard. Noble, upright, do what’s right just because it’s right, Boy Scouts, both of them. They are extremely similar characters. People who are focused on relative power levels are missing the point of comic book heroes. Powers come & powers go but moral rectitude is forever.
@@Arpin_Lusene And Superman would be a fearsome character with Steve's attitude. The relationship between the characters powers and their behaviors can't be understated since those powers have different consequences depending on the characters' actions. Imbued with Superman's powers, Captain America can't continue to behave the same and not have severe consequences.
@@zhengyingli In terms of morality they are both about as good as it gets. They always do what's right, regardless of how hard it is or what others will think. It's harder for Cap, of course, because he doesn't possess the godlike power that Superman has, but Superman also battles far more powerful enemies. Superman can call the shots more easily, because who is going to tell him no?
If they switched powers, I don't think either would change. Superman would keep doing what's right, with less power, and Cap would keep doing what's right, with more power.
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 You're getting it. If Steve doesn't remain static, he'd turn into some with more restraint like Superman in the DCEU.
RLM's editing is so hilarious and clean, so you know the "mistakes" are left intentional
A Marvel vs DC film would just be the Marvel superheroes teaming up to save the world from the DC heroes.
Cap: You leave those skyscrapers alone, Superman!
That's totally true.
LoN3wOlF5tudi0s It is a sad time to be alive when Captain America makes a better Superman than Superman himself.
Too bad marvel sucks, the only decent shit they have is the X-Men and fantastic four, but guess what, we gonna get them in the MCU now, can't wait for the X-Men being turned into happy go lucky haha marvel humour jokes are Kool look at me I make mediocre films while sucking the life of the comic book industry for disgusting normies that can't read 👌👌👌😍😍🤪
Probably would end poorly since Superman solos the entire MCU alone
8 years later and not only is this still their best review, it has aged shockingly well.
Superman: Has perfectly good ranged attacks; always goes right to melee. SMH
That's one thing The Boys covers effectively. I think Homelander throws exactly one punch across two seasons. He almost always defaults to eye lasers.
I actually want Snyder to direct Justice League. That thing is going to be epic. I mean, you basically have an egocentric hypocritical alien and a murdering psychopath founding something called the "Justice League". That's like if Hitler and Genghis Khan founded the UN. They would probably nuke entire countries from orbit using the Watchtower.
What's going to stop them going forward from just establishing a dictatorship over the world? They clearly have no qualms about murdering people or destruction.
+Noisemaker50 you know, maybe this is all set up for the Justice Lords. Then when their justice league movie happens, the real justice league from another earth will stop them and save the franchise.
BigBossTooN I would forgive everything about how badly they fucked up Superman as a character in these movies if they reveal in a twist that he's actually Hank Henshaw. That would be fucking brilliant.
Yes!
BigBossTooN And it would also explain away why he's so emotionless and doesn't care at all about the destruction and whatnot.
Superman: "Your moms named Martha too?"
Batman: "Yep!"
Superman: "Did we just become best friends?"
Batman: "Yep!"
Superman: "Do you wanna do karate in the garage?"
Batman: "YEP!"
These reviews are better than the movies
Seriously they are. I’ve never seen the rise of Skywalker but I’ve seen their 90min+ review of it and it’s hilarious [to me].
20 years ago I wouldn’t have thought I’d be watching this kinda stuff.
I think the best thing about these guys is that they’re not trying to be cool.
I hate the fake “Hey how’s it going, aren’t I so happy?” plebs you see all over UA-cam. It’s like a leftover from the TV era
Lol "Hey Fucko! Who are you?" This episode is so good.
The character dynamic flipping 180° as Zod pleads with Superman not to throw the bus of children at him is the movie we should've recieved
That photographer that gets executed by the terrorists in the beginning is Jimmy Olsen. Snyder's explanation for this is that "there's no room for Jimmy but we can still have fun with him, right?" -literal quote.
Fuck this movie.
...what's next? Are they going to have fun/kill off some other fan favorites?
+AlfredoFilmGeek If it were up to Synder, everyone would die.
+AlfredoFilmGeek who the fuck cares about Jimmy fucking Olsen? The fuck? Get over yourself
Joshcoshbagosh Anyone who knows much of anything about Superman lore.
Rick Sanchez its really not a big deal. He is hardly important here
"brass knuckles last forever" rich evans teaching first lesson at Kobra Kai
Man this film would have been awesome if they did a The Prestige plot where the two actually do get increasingly and over time really fucking spiteful of eachother with a clever payoff and the fanboy pleasing fight.
Can't have anything like that now can we
Zeb Walker you mean like civil war?
too bad that wasn't what they took from nolan movies
This is the age of Misery and Disappointment.
jonah hoff Yeah only it would be good
I think it should've been done after a man of Steel 2
Mike: "corny Superman can't exist now"
Shazam: *Observe*
The Superman character only really works if he is a boy scout...the Christopher Reeves-style Superman is exactly what these terrible movies need.
I don't think you read much comics, the problem with Superman on cinema is because they never really knew him, it's like nobody read the god damn source material, they always go for the Superman and never the duality of the character, he is so dull, and that sucks, this is definitely my beef with the shitty super hero films thing we have now, 70% of them are just not good, no soul, just cash and grab for casuals that can't bother to god damn read
@@vinicinfodexota5083 this comes from a guy who needs videos to play tekken
@@ferzum7290 oh, someone got so triggered he went on my profile Just to ser what i watch ahahahahahah well, If that aint pathetic, maybe your whole existance is
God bless thosw things arent private, or else i would never see someone be such a joke without even being self aware
And tbh i dont even get why, ALL i Said was why super is always wrongly portraied
@@ferzum7290 tekken is cool. Especially the one in Paris
This is a great chapter in the story. Not for Batman or Superman but in the Lightning Fast VCR Repair chronology.
Holy fuck that techno music added over the doomsday clips was hilarious.
Every bit of this movie I see from trailers and clips makes it look like the most painfully pretentious thing.
You are not wrong.
it was.
to me it wouldnt be so bad if batman and superman and lex had motivations and weren't total hypocrites...they preach preach preach and then in the end just destroy everything with no regard for human life...batman kills some people...which goes against his moral code...if batman were ever to kill someone on purpose, he would turn psychotic...and evil..at least thats how I always saw it cause hes already borderline....
I like your choice of words - PAINFULLY!! That perfectly describes this pretentious movie... Snyder literally screams BE AWED to the audience with every single shot in the film!!
Batman Laughed Snyder gives us illusions of sophistication and that pisses me off. He should just go ahead and be the Michael Bay he is within, rather than giving audiences unearned moments that proudly scream "NOTICE MY DIRECTING!! NOTICE MY DIRECTING!!"