@@examiningkubrickphilosofia1530 1 hr 45 missing would be 3 hr 45 min total, so they were only 15 min off. Also, the joker scene was added in later, so they were almost exactly right
it's funniest when they try to guess what scenes were in Snyder's cut and they fail soo miserably. Even they couldn't guess how much they fucked up the snyder version
Both movies sucked just one a little less then the other and they shoe horned the joker in there for no reason whatsoever I can’t believe these guys didn’t even touch on that
Rich saying "where's the governments arguing over who gets superman's body?" Makes me think of an idea: suicide squad would've been awesome if it was a heist to get superman's body for argus. Could've set up Cadmus.
What *did* he do? I heard that a woman came forward and gave a very very general statement, like, "he did a bad thing" but I never heard anything more or and sort of details or clarification?
Ten years from now, when we're halfway into the Chutes 'n' Ladders Dark Multiverse Prequel Trilogy Vol. IIa: Count Chocula vs. The GEICO Cavemen Part I: The Razing Of Candyland, we'll be pining for the days the infection was limited to superhero movies.
The only people who've been able to properly execute the shared universe concept are the people who pioneered the idea: Marvel. WB and Universal have demonstrated that just having a shared universe isn't a recipe for success. The problem is that Hollywood often misinterprets success. They see the MCU and think, "Oh, this is successful because it's a shared universe, we don't need to worry about story, characters, tone, look, cohesiveness, casting, direction or anything else. If it features the nerds favorite characters, people will come out in droves to see it." You saw this years ago with the movie craze for trilogies. They saw that Lord of the Rings was a massive hit, and so everyone thought that trilogies were the way to go. It wasn't that LOTR was well directed, looked amazing and blended it's combination of CG and practical effects in a way that was fantastic and near flawless, told a great story and had an amazing cast (that kick started a lot of peoples careers none of that mattered, it was the fact that it was a trilogy that was why it made money. Even the people who made Lord of the Rings made the same mistake later when they did the Hobbit series. The Hobbit should have been two movies at most (or just a long single movie), they got greedy and tried to do another trilogy and they ended up with a bloated mess that veered too far from the source material (which to be fair is the weakest of Tolkien's books). This is also why we ended up with "The Dark Knight Trilogy" when it was clear they didn't really have a third act written for the story. The reason the MCU has succeeded is that Marvel is committed to actually making good individual movies, that happen to fit together as the interlocking pieces of a larger whole. That's why the MCU works, the individual movies are actually worth watching, and so you get invested with the characters and want to follow everyone's journey.
That's an interesting point about the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. That's the first time anybody tries blending fictional characters in that way in modern cinema (you could argue something like Abbot and Costello meet Frankenstein, Dracula and the Wolfman). However you also see that that movie was a total disaster and actually wrecked several peoples careers (including it's director) and drove Sean Connery, one of the most storied and bankable stars in Hollywood, into retirement.
Lamashtar Oh good. That's wonderful. We should go on social media and spread hype about this exciting new action adventure romance horror vertically integrated portfolio of value-added enjoyment assets. I for one am Very Excited about all the innovations this Very Exciting soft reboot hashtag.
We know when something goes good, imitators and greed appear....but the hwole deal of the final book into two movies got destroyed after hunger games....wich affected the avengers 3 plan so...
Steppenwolf looks like a guy Kratos would kill during the tutorial sequence. This is how we block, this button is heavy attack, are we good, okay here's a throwaway miniboss.
So, Clark Kent, a man who had an open casket funeral, and had people from his work, attend the funeral and write him an obituary in the newspaper he worked for. Comes back to life, weeks/months later. Literally back to life. Not even lampshaded.
Anybody remember the Justice League cartoon from the early 2000's? An entire fucking TV series with interesting plots and relatable characters, and when it's time to make a live-action movie, the best they can do is "badguy from space wants magic cubes".
The JL cartoon series from the early 2000's,JL-Unlimited series,who followed and Young Justice,put the entire DCEU to shame,in terms of quality storytelling,characters and action.Generally speaking are the animated DC movies and series,top-notch,it's really funny,that they just can't manage to keep this quality on their live-action movies,with a couple of exceptions like Nolan's Batman trilogy or Wonder Woman.
1. I loved that show. 2. Describing the movie like that, I realize it's literally the Avengers, but instead of one magic cube, ITS THREE! Totally makes it better, DC.
Thats what happens when you rush multiple movies worth of character development. The price of doing whatever it takes to be different from the competition
The speech on why the World needs Superman comes really fucking great from someone who said "He has the power to take out the entire human race and if we believe there is even a one percent chance that he is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certainty!" especially when you also consider how that certain someone is also responsible for Superman's death.
Apparently WB offered REPEATEDLY to pay for the digital addition of a mustache to the other movie because it was cheaper to add one than remove one, and the other studio repeatedly said no, he had to keep the real 'stache. So you're right on both counts--it would have been cheaper to add a fake one AND you're right that the other movie was still like "suck it, DCU."
The thing people don't get is they'd already shot scenes with the real mustache and then to gamble those scenes looking different due to adding a CGI mustache in other scenes with no real benefit to the other studio means no one in their right mind would make him shave it. Worst case scenario you're going to have to reshoot old scenes with again, no benefit to you.
Terrible script. Terrible jokes. Piss poor CGI. Very mediocre performances. And the pacing was way off.. Honesty, RLM should just reboot itself and find better actors.. My dream fan-cast would be Ryan Gosling as Jay, Joaquin Phoenix as Mike and a fat Kirsten Dunst as Rich.
Nils, good to see your movies are better. Oh wait, you're not making movies... You're just pretending to be a know it all movie director, but you're too lazy to direct a movie. That's right...
@@eko2_ You'd be surprised. That guy actually made a silent stop motion film that was much more enjoyable than BVS. Though, I can't tell if your comment is a joke or not because you're posting a comment on a film criticism show while not understanding the most basic concept behind film or any other artistic criticism.
@@eko2_ RLM is a fake filmmaker who's claim to fame was just bashing some else's work. Make memorable and good films that people love, then they will be allowed to criticize someone else's work properly. I shall not take them seriously until then.
He was regular-old-man fit for sure, but then he got crazy ripped for this... did you see all those Instagram pics???? He looks incredible... and then he pops up in 4 minutes of screen time wearing like 4 layers of coats :) I hope he does keep the guns. Maybe he can be the new Liam Neeson... some kind of "retired but can still F you up" movie perhaps!
So why did they have to do all this random shit to bring Superman back to life, but at the end of BVS the dirt on his coffin starts to rise as if he’s still alive?
Carlos it was a mother box that gets its energy from something called the source (kinda like the speed force that gives the flash his speed) so it wouldn’t do anything to Superman because he gets his power from yellow stars
That's another problem I have with the DCEU's execution. They've cast a lot of great people (they really have) but they don't have anything for them to do (poor Henry Cavill). I think J.K. Simmons is a great actor and could have brought a lot of levity to Commissioner Gordon, but not if he's in the movie for a grand total of 5 minutes.
"Kathleen Kennedy, she-she's puttin' out Star Wars like a pimp puts a hooker out on the street. Star Wars has hiked up its skirt and it's giving BJ's and handies for a nickle a pop, and Kathy's countin' the money in a dingy hotel room." I watched every episode of Half in the Bag before this one again so I could find this one line that Mike says since I couldn't remember where it came from. Worth it. Going to keep watching all the other episodes. :)
Fun fact: Mike, who clearly couldn't care less about these super hero films, had to watch this masterpiece (at least) three times. Once in the cinema, once for their commentary track and once to take notes for their Snyder Cut review.
the one thing that would fix this movie is whenever Steppenwolf was on screen the background music was Magic Carpet Ride and by background i mean foreground with the rest of the audio muted and all the scenes where Steppenwolf is not on screen are cut out entirely
This joke is dumb and lacks common sense. 2/10. Batman is a psycho and his mom's name triggered why hes Batman. Batman is world's greatest detective and always sees reason. Let me know if you need more knowledge to plop on your head.
I know comparing Nolan's take on comic book movies to WB's impossible nightmare disaster from Hell is old hate, but I wanna draw attention to something. Watch the Justice League trailer. Count the shots of apocalyptic doomsday shots of things blowing up (WHICH YOU HAVE TO DO OTHERWISE PEOPLE WILL ASSUME THIS FILM CONTAINS NO EXPLOSIONS). Now think about Nolan: What were the stakes at the end of every movie? Did the Joker wanna fire a blu laser at the sky? No, he just wanted to blow up a boat, but because the fundamental story was so compelling, we wind up caring way more about the 200 people on a boat than we do Space Warlord #4 's master plan to end daylights savings time. The simple fact is that the story dictates the stakes, not vice versa.
Trollificusv2 Thank you for not drawing attention to the six dozen typos in that post. I can monitor my Ambien usage entirely with my UA-cam comment history.
You do realize that it was Nolan who hired Zack to do MoS and convinced the stuido to fund it, he also had a hand in the story and production on both MoS and BvS. Snyder and Nolan are friends and work on each others movies without taking anything but producer credits....Zack literally grew the corn for Interstellar and also helped out on The Dark Knight.
@@pepeshadilayshould been a tease at rhe end. And then a full movie. And rhen the supermen shaquil o neal as Steel cyborg superman superboy And skip the last guy
doubleP I could've turned off the review right there cuz Rich's comment sums up DC perfectly, but I stayed to enjoy RLM trash Minor League for almost forty minutes :)
ARE YOU KIDDING? YOU BEETER BE U IGNORAMUS THE "GAY WEDDING' PLOT WAS WHEN HITB COMPLETELY JMPED THE SHARK. WRITING WENT OFF A CLIFF AFTER THE GEROGE LUCAS/TIM HEIDECKER VILLAIN PLOT Thank you for your time.
I thought it was really cool. I like when they just chill together. I always set aside a block of time every day to watch some RLM. And uhhh... something something ice... I dunno
Every time you guys said the bad guys name was Steppenwolf, I thought you were joking, because all I could think of was the band that played Magic Carpet Ride.
I was thinking during the fight scene between Superman and the rest of the JL that this situation is exactly what the Suicide Squad was designed for. Where was Harley with her bat, Deadshot with his guns to stop Superman? Killer Croc could have easily taken out Superman with the help of Boomerang. DC. What a joke.
Yeah! Amanda Waller, super genius: coerce a bunch of unpowered, unstable sociopaths to kill a demigod. I mean, if everybody was wearing kryptonite armor and shooting kryptonite weapons and they had someone whose power was to slow down Superman so he's not faster than the flash...then they'd still die because he'd stand off a few miles and torch them with his heat vision. DC. What a joke.
A team of superheroes must face off against a villain from another realm with a horny hat who uses a magic cube and brings an army of faceless monsters to earth.
Avengers did it. To be fair the mother boxes are a piece of DC comics lore (they are) but the whole thing just came across as derivative and hackneyed. The problem is that WB/DC is in a reactive mode, and they don't have anyone at the top with any kind of vision to figure out what to do other than keep hiring Zack Snyder. Or go get Joss Whedon after he's done working with Marvel.
@@nickchavarria8052 Ding ding ding! Neat thing is, it doesn't matter if it turns out to be a good or bad movie. Like with every other show that will be exclusive to a channel/streaming service, it's there to hook an audience, and if the audience doesn't like the film? Hey maybe watch more of our other shows before unsubbing! Maybe those will convince you that this platform is ok to keep!
Justice League wanted to have their cake and eat it too. They wanted to pretend like MoS and BvS either didn't exist or were completely different and that Superman was always a beacon of hope to the world. Even though BvS was all about how people didn't trust Superman and even Superman was so depressed that he didn't want to be Superman anymore. But then the whole plot of the movie is dependent on BvS. They're still using the plot set up in BvS. Batman's character motivation is dependent on the events of BvS. They constantly reference BvS.
A lot of people complained about that but I think it is normal to idolize people after they die. Like Lincoln and Kennedy were not universally loved in their day, both were actually pretty controvertial. But after their asassination everyone wanted to pretend they were best friends the whole time. But I do agree the movie seemed totally unaware of this fact and just straightforwardly acted like everyone loved Superman, instead of showing that they only remembered it that way.
They can't escape BvS because it's like the big thing they threw all their eggs to, but it's like they can't really stick with that formula, either, because people fucking hated it. So they had to make the biggest compromise ever just to make this work even a little.
this was worth watching in 2020 for the gang's reaction to mike mentioning a "stand-alone joker movie outside the cinematic universe starring leonardo dicaprio or something" 28 minutes in
Did not know where to post this, but my girlfriend surprised me with a "very cool" t-shirt in the mail for my bday and a signed space cop poster from ya'll. Thanks to all three of you for taking the time to do that! (and the GF of course;)
When talking about bringing Superman back to life, he should have referenced how in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock where they find Spock's body resurrected by the Genesis device and had to transfer Spock's katra from McCoy into Spock's new body.
The idea that darker = more mature is actually a very juvenile concept. The only people that actually think like this are 'new adults' who still feel a need to distance themselves from childhood. Once you become an 'actual adult' you realize that desaturating a movie and littering it with cursing and tits does not make it seem remotely 'more adult'. It just makes it look like it was written and directed by a 14 year old. It becomes especially ironic when the subject matter is the onscreen realization of your childhood hero fantasies. Protip for those still making the journey to adulthood: Once you actually get there, you'll probably spend the rest of your life (and half your paycheck) trying to reverse the process.
That's just about the only reason why Revenge of the Sith got so better reception than the other two prequels in spite of being just as shitty in terms of storytelling and cinematography and even worse in the dialogue department. Teens simply got wet at the idea of slaughtering children and the rest, including "professional" reviewers, followed suit.
I think there's a lot to that. I also am of the opinion that Zack Snyder isn't actually literate and never really read "The Dark Knight Returns" because that story didn't work for a starting point for either Batman or Superman because that's supposed to be the "Last" Batman story (Frank Miller said that). The problem is that Snyder thinks making things awful and dark and abysmal makes them better, and he doesn't understand that the whole relationship between Batman and Superman works because of the contrast with them. They're both good men trying to help people, but they don't agree on the best way to do that, which is what makes their interaction interesting. Snyder isn't actually interested in developing his characters or telling a story, he just wants the visual of Batman being murderous and Superman snapping peoples necks. He reminds me of a lot of people I knew in college who took introductory philosophy or economics classes and started blathering on about something they read two paragraphs about with existentialism or the labor theory of value (not to knock either of those disciplines they're both great and very interesting if you really get into them). He thinks he's saying something really deep, but in actuality he's as shallow as your average kiddy pool. The reason the dark moments in the MCU (such as the dark parts of Iron Man 3, Winter Soldier, Civil War, Guardians 2, etc.) work is because you have the lighter moments to contrast them. If you don't have that contrast then it doesn't hold together as a story but it also doesn't get you invested. Also, anyone who thinks BVS was equivalent to Casablanca or Citizen Kane needs their freakin' head examined. I love the Marvel movies, every one of them, but I have no illusions that they're top tier cinematic triumphs. They're great fun, and they've brought the comics world to life, but I would never say they're up there with the greatest movies of all time, and they don't have to be either.
I'm kind of immune to that delusion, since I loved dark and serious stuff as a kid, and only as an adult is more lighthearted material like The Brave Little Toaster and Winnie the Pooh palatable for me
The Joker movie that has "nothing to do with the universe" is actually good. Shazam which looks like a movie made as an after thought is actually better The DCEU is a joke.
God I hope you guys do a BVS/Justice League style review with Rich when the Snyder Cut drops. You’d be able to film yourself cackling at it like BOTW and everything lol Edit 7 months later: They did just that, AND the movie didn’t completely blow! Two pleasant surprises, for sure
22:36 -- I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME. I was like "why are they ALWAYS in costume?" It added to that "Saturday Morning Cartoon" feel (GREAT analogy), and made it more difficult to take seriously.
Things I enjoyed: - Wonder Woman deflecting the machine gun fire - Cyborg introduction where he's talking to his dad - Steppenwolf's fight with the Amazons - "Evil" Superman fight - The image of Aquaman chugging a bottle of vodka
Honestly I'm more excited for bad movies to come out so I can watch half in the bag than I am watching the actual movie. Like right after star wars I can't wait for a half in the bag and a probable plinkett review
uzah88 I absolitely adore Steppenwolf because I see him as a Venture Bros character. He's so lacking in self-awareness of how bad he sucks, and I keep picturing that annoying the Monarch, who makes fun of him behind his back. Steppenwolf fails in every scene he's in. When we first see him, he loses to cavemen and has a panic attack. When the dumbass Amazons decide to hide the Mother Box under a pile of rocks, Steppenwolf knocks down a thin stone wall and tackles a horse before fleeing in terror from 50 cavewomen a third his size with no armor and Bronze Age weaponry. Then he wrestles Aquaman to a draw despite being, again, three times his size. And unlike Zod and Doomsday, Superman breaks his fucking spine with a single punch, quips as he tortures him with his laser eyes, then tosses his battered body to be lynched by the Justice League, which causes Steppenwolf to have yet another panic attack and get dragged away by his own henchmen (?) to....somewhere? Fuck Thanos. THAT'S an arc!
EpoxyMuffin “LOX Gentlemen” at the very least is consistent all throughout with tone and a three-act structure. “Justice League” is all over the place, no consistency whatsoever.
If Superman can solo the entire threat presented to the planet in the Justice League movie while a combination of Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Cyborg and Aquaman can't stop it, what does it say about the competence of those heroes in this universe? There's zero need for the Justice League to exist if Superman can do their job better than they can. _BY HIMSELF._ I get it, Superman is obviously the strongest hero in the setting, there's no disputing that, but the Justice League is supposed to be formed to take on threats he can't take on alone and needs allies for. Instead, in this universe, it's formed as a replacement for him until he can be brought back and he proceeds to render the entire existence of the JL in this universe pointless by pretty much soloing the villain. So what do we learn from the Justice League movie? That the titular League are all fucking geeks and Superman can defend the planet by himself. Nice one DCEU, just die already.
they should just reboot their whole cinematic universe, it's impossible to save this mess, maybe they can do a crisis thing to explain a new timeline with new actors.
they don't even have to explain anything. it's not like anyone gave a shit when they replaced roadie? from iron man, or jim norton hulk, or mentioned katie holmes's extensive plastic surgery that turned her into maggie gyllenhaal. they could just make a movie with different actors playing the same characters and looks like guardians of the galaxy and people and nobody would care(unless it was terrible). it's like wb thinks people will be confused if it's a different actor as if it's real life
the force awakens was ok, take it as a "tribute" to the original trilogy. rogue one was an horrible piece of shit, it was like suicide squad, uninteresting plot, shallow uninteresting characters, it was a mess. the only good thing is the vader scene, but the rest is crap. now I want them to stop!. they keep announcing new star wars stuff when they haven't released what they already announced, episode 8 hasn't come out yet and they are already announcing like four more movies, it's insane. they are destroying the franchise, it's worse than lucas and his prequels.
Mike and Jay's question about Snyder's fans has been answered: their response has been to start a petition for a "Zack Snyder cut" of the movie from WB, with 70,000+ signatures and counting, all by people who don't realize it's impossible to release a "director's cut" of a movie when that director left the movie before it was done shooting
The movie was done btw. February 2017 they were doing color correction which means the edit was locked down which means no more footage would be needed to be shot or edited in. WB saw a cut in March and said "nah we gotta change it." The movie was done before the re-shoots were ordered.
"Mark Hamill confesses to running a child sex slave ring with Stephen Spielberg and Robert Downey Jr. One of the boys who grew up in this ring by the name of Daniel Radcliffe (who rose to stardom after a particularly raunchy night with JK Rowling got him a starring role in the Harry Potter films) would later become a major player in the organization." There! I just ruined Star Wars, Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, and the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe in one fell swoop.
I just saw "Murder on the Orient Express" tonight, and then snuck into the "Just-ice League" movie to get a glimpse of it, and that Superman's eyeball scene is the one thing I saw!! I actually thought "huh, maybe this is pretty good".
ScruffyLookin1138 i really enjoyed it. Felt like a movie from a vanished era, but with modern gorgeous photography. Nice ensemble acting, twists felt meaningful even if they weren't all shocking. I recommend it.
I agree. I really enjoyed it, and I was pretty surprised it got such shitty reviews. Some shoddy acting at the start but it got into a rhythm and stayed interesting until the end.
I just found you guys. Here’s a nice little compliment for y’all. I used to watch Mystery Science Theater 3000 with my Dad. You guys remind me of a modern day version of it, and I love it. Hope you guys are still making content. I just found y’all a day or two ago with the Rogue One intro skit.
I genuinely don't understand why Justice League War can exist years before this movie, as a stand alone movie, and be so infinitely better than this blockbuster made with a far higher budget. It'd have been one of the few times where pure plagiarism would have been so desirable.
Holds true for Green Lantern: First Flight (2009) as well. I saw it after the live action film (2011) unfortunately, but the whole time I was watching it, all I could think was “Why didn’t they just make this story in live action?”
Flash: "What are your superpowers again?"
Rich Evans: "I'm Rich."
Rich Evans: "Diabetes"
Rich Evans: "AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDSSSS"
Do you laugh?
Rich Evans: YOU WILL
lol
Damn 😂
Lois Lame: "Just don't mention Martha."
Rich: WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?!?
“This does feel like a movie that has, like, an hour 45 missing” this aged well
Then manage to do it every time
They were only off by two hours. LOL
@@examiningkubrickphilosofia1530 1 hr 45 missing would be 3 hr 45 min total, so they were only 15 min off. Also, the joker scene was added in later, so they were almost exactly right
it's funniest when they try to guess what scenes were in Snyder's cut and they fail soo miserably. Even they couldn't guess how much they fucked up the snyder version
Both movies sucked just one a little less then the other and they shoe horned the joker in there for no reason whatsoever I can’t believe these guys didn’t even touch on that
Rich saying "where's the governments arguing over who gets superman's body?" Makes me think of an idea: suicide squad would've been awesome if it was a heist to get superman's body for argus. Could've set up Cadmus.
Holy shit that would have been amazing!
AngusJoker I wish screenwriters would have imagination like that.
They do. But they're not allowed to because, Warner and Snyder.
That would have been amazing and would have gave suicide squad a reason to exist. Wow that really is a good idea the more i think about it.
Awesome idea, but then how would they have crammed a sky-raping lightning dick into it?
> Mike forgets Aquaman's name
> Somehow comes up with obscure Marvel character "Submariner"
I only know that Submariner exist because I played the PS1 Spiderman game and they namedropped him...
No one forgets a man in a tiny green speedo.
Noah Richard I think he was talking about Water World
there's nothing obscure about Namor, it's a very popular character
@Spit Dragon Namor is a cooler name than aquaman
That slowly melting ice cube is a good metaphor for the DC expanded universe
Kor O'Connell More smart and subtle than Snyder films.
Kor O'Connell that slowly melting ice cube is a good metaphor for ur sex life
Except for the "slowly" part, yeah. WB/DC is acting like they've got a marathon to win.
Jordan Siron who said it was a fucking marathon. How r the fuck r they rushing
Kor O'Connell Ouch ...
"That's what Max Landis said."
*slide whistle sound
Cut to shot of Mike
What *did* he do? I heard that a woman came forward and gave a very very general statement, like, "he did a bad thing" but I never heard anything more or and sort of details or clarification?
Who?
@@katsuyorishibata9951 Joe
@@Phoenix0F8 that's what I want to to know
Ten years from now, when we're halfway into the Chutes 'n' Ladders Dark Multiverse Prequel Trilogy Vol. IIa: Count Chocula vs. The GEICO Cavemen Part I: The Razing Of Candyland, we'll be pining for the days the infection was limited to superhero movies.
The only people who've been able to properly execute the shared universe concept are the people who pioneered the idea: Marvel. WB and Universal have demonstrated that just having a shared universe isn't a recipe for success. The problem is that Hollywood often misinterprets success. They see the MCU and think, "Oh, this is successful because it's a shared universe, we don't need to worry about story, characters, tone, look, cohesiveness, casting, direction or anything else. If it features the nerds favorite characters, people will come out in droves to see it." You saw this years ago with the movie craze for trilogies. They saw that Lord of the Rings was a massive hit, and so everyone thought that trilogies were the way to go. It wasn't that LOTR was well directed, looked amazing and blended it's combination of CG and practical effects in a way that was fantastic and near flawless, told a great story and had an amazing cast (that kick started a lot of peoples careers none of that mattered, it was the fact that it was a trilogy that was why it made money. Even the people who made Lord of the Rings made the same mistake later when they did the Hobbit series. The Hobbit should have been two movies at most (or just a long single movie), they got greedy and tried to do another trilogy and they ended up with a bloated mess that veered too far from the source material (which to be fair is the weakest of Tolkien's books). This is also why we ended up with "The Dark Knight Trilogy" when it was clear they didn't really have a third act written for the story. The reason the MCU has succeeded is that Marvel is committed to actually making good individual movies, that happen to fit together as the interlocking pieces of a larger whole. That's why the MCU works, the individual movies are actually worth watching, and so you get invested with the characters and want to follow everyone's journey.
That's an interesting point about the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. That's the first time anybody tries blending fictional characters in that way in modern cinema (you could argue something like Abbot and Costello meet Frankenstein, Dracula and the Wolfman). However you also see that that movie was a total disaster and actually wrecked several peoples careers (including it's director) and drove Sean Connery, one of the most storied and bankable stars in Hollywood, into retirement.
Lamashtar Oh good. That's wonderful. We should go on social media and spread hype about this exciting new action adventure romance horror vertically integrated portfolio of value-added enjoyment assets. I for one am Very Excited about all the innovations this Very Exciting soft reboot hashtag.
pittland44 You could also say the same thing for what Twilight and Harry Potter starting the “Final Book into Two Movies” trend.
We know when something goes good, imitators and greed appear....but the hwole deal of the final book into two movies got destroyed after hunger games....wich affected the avengers 3 plan so...
Steppenwolf looks like a guy Kratos would kill during the tutorial sequence. This is how we block, this button is heavy attack, are we good, okay here's a throwaway miniboss.
The only thing you're missing is where Kratos' creator pauses the game to lecture you about white privilege and pronouns.
"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
- Vampire Assassin to Jay Bauman ( 2017 )
*Dull Blade
Bruh obi wan said that
@@cloudybird5787That's the joooooke.
"I judge movies on whether or not I'm miserable."
-Mike Stoklasa
"The more miserable the more I like it"
- Mike Stoklasa
So, Clark Kent, a man who had an open casket funeral, and had people from his work, attend the funeral and write him an obituary in the newspaper he worked for. Comes back to life, weeks/months later. Literally back to life. Not even lampshaded.
DC missed a great opportunity to name the Motherboxes "Marthaboxes"
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!?!!!!
WHYYY DID YOU SAY THAT NAAAAAAAA
SAVE MaRThaaaaaaaaa!!!!!😭😭😭😭
The Martha scene is probably one of the most powerful scenes in a superhero film.
@@LuisRuiz-tl9uv I definitely laughed powerfully
"I thought it was so bad, it was great!"
-Mike Stoklasa in front of a wall covered with "Vampire Assassin" dvds
That's Mike everyday, anywhere, about any film.
Anybody remember the Justice League cartoon from the early 2000's? An entire fucking TV series with interesting plots and relatable characters, and when it's time to make a live-action movie, the best they can do is "badguy from space wants magic cubes".
That's true. Everybody just kind of showed up.
The JL cartoon series from the early 2000's,JL-Unlimited series,who followed and Young Justice,put the entire DCEU to shame,in terms of quality storytelling,characters and action.Generally speaking are the animated DC movies and series,top-notch,it's really funny,that they just can't manage to keep this quality on their live-action movies,with a couple of exceptions like Nolan's Batman trilogy or Wonder Woman.
1. I loved that show.
2. Describing the movie like that, I realize it's literally the Avengers, but instead of one magic cube, ITS THREE! Totally makes it better, DC.
King Chrollo what about Vixen?
Oda Swifteye Probably because Superman and Batman already had development in their own shows, and Flash was introduced in Superman's
“It does feel like a movie where there’s a good 1 hr and 45 min missing” -Mike Stoklasa, JL2017: 120 min, Snyder cut: 4 hrs 2 min
Plus, the joker scene was added in later, so they were even closer
He always has such oddly specific predictions
Probably coulda hit that target just by upping the slo-mo use to Snyderian levels
I burst into laughter when Bruce gave this monologue on how the World needs Superman.... he tried to kill him a couple of weeks before, right?
yeah but since his mommy's name is martha that means he must be good
Changed his mind.
Thats what happens when you rush multiple movies worth of character development. The price of doing whatever it takes to be different from the competition
The speech on why the World needs Superman comes really fucking great from someone who said "He has the power to take out the entire human race and if we believe there is even a one percent chance that he is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certainty!" especially when you also consider how that certain someone is also responsible for Superman's death.
His conversion ranks right up there with Anakin turning to the dark side, in about 20 seconds...
"Fuck movies" makes me laugh every time.
HOW MUCH LONGER ON THOSE MOUTH WATERING CAKES! ! ! ! !
It's Appsro...!
make another animation you hack fraud
half in the baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
I was in the mood for hearing the phrase rn and they delivered.
*_I CLAPPED!_*
Apparently WB offered REPEATEDLY to pay for the digital addition of a mustache to the other movie because it was cheaper to add one than remove one, and the other studio repeatedly said no, he had to keep the real 'stache. So you're right on both counts--it would have been cheaper to add a fake one AND you're right that the other movie was still like "suck it, DCU."
NekoMouser Mission Impossibie was alot better...glad that film wasn’t ruined. Lol
The thing people don't get is they'd already shot scenes with the real mustache and then to gamble those scenes looking different due to adding a CGI mustache in other scenes with no real benefit to the other studio means no one in their right mind would make him shave it. Worst case scenario you're going to have to reshoot old scenes with again, no benefit to you.
Man, they should have just let superman have a mustache.
@@FrantiC119 Here's an idea...How about not butchering the director's vision and not using his daughter's death as a PR cover
@@apetit8687 this would been the answer
Marvel took characters I did not care about and made me care. DC took characters I care about and made me not care.
eldospinks Perfectly eloquently said
Never even thought about it but damn, you're spot on.
"DC stands for don't care"
eldospinks so true! can I copy and paste your comment everywhere?
VietnamD0820 Be my guest.
Terrible script. Terrible jokes. Piss poor CGI. Very mediocre performances. And the pacing was way off..
Honesty, RLM should just reboot itself and find better actors.. My dream fan-cast would be Ryan Gosling as Jay, Joaquin Phoenix as Mike and a fat Kirsten Dunst as Rich.
Zero Black - IDK. I guess simply a fat Kirsten Dunst playing Rich Evans playing Mr. Plinkett could work.
Nils, good to see your movies are better. Oh wait, you're not making movies... You're just pretending to be a know it all movie director, but you're too lazy to direct a movie. That's right...
Joaquin Phoenix would put his absolute all into making an Oscar worthy Mike Stoklasa. Let's get Christian Bale as Jack.
@@eko2_ You'd be surprised. That guy actually made a silent stop motion film that was much more enjoyable than BVS. Though, I can't tell if your comment is a joke or not because you're posting a comment on a film criticism show while not understanding the most basic concept behind film or any other artistic criticism.
@@eko2_ RLM is a fake filmmaker who's claim to fame was just bashing some else's work. Make memorable and good films that people love, then they will be allowed to criticize someone else's work properly.
I shall not take them seriously until then.
I'm bet J.K. Simmons is happy he spent all that time and effort getting super jacked for this. Worth it.
Nic, Tys and Videotape actually, he was jacked up before this movie so he can keep his guns
He was regular-old-man fit for sure, but then he got crazy ripped for this... did you see all those Instagram pics???? He looks incredible... and then he pops up in 4 minutes of screen time wearing like 4 layers of coats :) I hope he does keep the guns. Maybe he can be the new Liam Neeson... some kind of "retired but can still F you up" movie perhaps!
@@yeetboi9817 when he becomes batman for a bit yeah
We need a standalone origin story for JJ where he's super strong and fights menaces.
@@Dog-999i He'll be perfect for the upcoming Marvel J. Jonah Jameson movie, "J." announced for 2021.
So why did they have to do all this random shit to bring Superman back to life, but at the end of BVS the dirt on his coffin starts to rise as if he’s still alive?
It's because Warner Bros. didn't plan their films out well.
Stop asking completely logical questions!
nighthawk4251 because dc assumed that everyone would be in a coma by the end of the film because of the braindead plot.
Carlos it was a mother box that gets its energy from something called the source (kinda like the speed force that gives the flash his speed) so it wouldn’t do anything to Superman because he gets his power from yellow stars
batman did say that he's not really dead. They basically defibrillated him
"Oh look, it's J.K. Simmons!"
1 min later
"Okay he had 3 lines, I guess he's gone for the rest of the movie now."
That's another problem I have with the DCEU's execution. They've cast a lot of great people (they really have) but they don't have anything for them to do (poor Henry Cavill). I think J.K. Simmons is a great actor and could have brought a lot of levity to Commissioner Gordon, but not if he's in the movie for a grand total of 5 minutes.
Bob Miller and let's not forget the childhood classic Harry Potter and the Drunken Bender.
Justice League? FORGET THE JUSTICE LEAGUE I NEED PHOTOS , PHOTOS OF SPIDER-MAN!!!
Classic bait & switch.
Nanya Koncerno
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DC stands for Don't Care. WB stands for Why Bother.
I think you're on to something there.
Heyyyyy thats pretty good
PlotlinePlus lol 😂
true
Warna Brother
Rich Evans is the key to all of this
Save Rich Evans save the world.
If we can get Rich working...
'cuz he's a funnier character than we've had before
_Well..._
Mama Mia, Papa Pia. Baby got the diarrhea.
I love how Rich’s accent returns as soon as the actual review is over.
VERY COOL
Deadpan Man he's actually pretty loud and annoying, and frequently talks over the guys I'm trying to hear
@@nicholasgeere5125 I don't think he means to
"Kathleen Kennedy, she-she's puttin' out Star Wars like a pimp puts a hooker out on the street. Star Wars has hiked up its skirt and it's giving BJ's and handies for a nickle a pop, and Kathy's countin' the money in a dingy hotel room."
I watched every episode of Half in the Bag before this one again so I could find this one line that Mike says since I couldn't remember where it came from. Worth it. Going to keep watching all the other episodes. :)
“Recruit more pimps, more pushers!”
you could have asked
28:52 for anyone looking specifically, lol
@@alexthrailkill Thank you ;-)
That's probably the funniest and most accurate Star Wars analogy I've ever heard. 🤣🤣🤣
Fun fact: Mike, who clearly couldn't care less about these super hero films, had to watch this masterpiece (at least) three times. Once in the cinema, once for their commentary track and once to take notes for their Snyder Cut review.
I recognized "Just Ice" as a Best of the Worst joke and I clapped.
It broke new ice.
the one thing that would fix this movie is whenever Steppenwolf was on screen the background music was Magic Carpet Ride and by background i mean foreground with the rest of the audio muted and all the scenes where Steppenwolf is not on screen are cut out entirely
Good thing Steppenwolf's mom's name wasn't Martha
#MarthaBox
Don't give them ideas!!!!!
They might make Darkseid's mom be named Martha.
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!
OMG THAT'S MY MOMMMYS NAME!!!!!!!!!
This joke is dumb and lacks common sense. 2/10. Batman is a psycho and his mom's name triggered why hes Batman. Batman is world's greatest detective and always sees reason. Let me know if you need more knowledge to plop on your head.
"It's a film about family"
That has to be one of the most clever visual gags I've ever seen.
Just-Ice League.
*ALL FOR THAT FUCKING BIT, JAY.*
they used this joke in one of their Best of the worst episodes: ua-cam.com/video/kWKlmbTudD8/v-deo.html
Yeah, the other guy is right, it's a rlm callback
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
ovisatma what else do you expect from hack frauds?
Rohan Kishibe and 『Heaven's Door』 horsey sauce kind of skit
Mike is an angel sent to us to save us, but he lost interest and just does movies.
He's the hero we deserve, but not the one it needs right now.
Rob _ And the moral of the story is: "Don't do alcohol, cherubs."
Mike is the key to all of this
Mike is love, mike is life...
Anno niem urr If we can get him to work
I know comparing Nolan's take on comic book movies to WB's impossible nightmare disaster from Hell is old hate, but I wanna draw attention to something.
Watch the Justice League trailer. Count the shots of apocalyptic doomsday shots of things blowing up (WHICH YOU HAVE TO DO OTHERWISE PEOPLE WILL ASSUME THIS FILM CONTAINS NO EXPLOSIONS). Now think about Nolan: What were the stakes at the end of every movie? Did the Joker wanna fire a blu laser at the sky? No, he just wanted to blow up a boat, but because the fundamental story was so compelling, we wind up caring way more about the 200 people on a boat than we do Space Warlord #4 's master plan to end daylights savings time.
The simple fact is that the story dictates the stakes, not vice versa.
Trollificusv2 Thank you for not drawing attention to the six dozen typos in that post. I can monitor my Ambien usage entirely with my UA-cam comment history.
jimmy jams YOU DON OF A BITCH
You do realize that it was Nolan who hired Zack to do MoS and convinced the stuido to fund it, he also had a hand in the story and production on both MoS and BvS. Snyder and Nolan are friends and work on each others movies without taking anything but producer credits....Zack literally grew the corn for Interstellar and also helped out on The Dark Knight.
carrottoponcrak erm nuke at the end of the trilogy?
Steve Nesbitt What?
Also,
Marvel: Takes 11 years and 22 films to build the Infinity Saga
DC: Tries to cram the New Gods story into one movie.
Also cramed "the death of Superman " comics into like a 10 minute scene In Batman v. Superman
@@pepeshadilayidiots
@@pepeshadilayshould been a tease at rhe end. And then a full movie. And rhen the supermen shaquil o neal as Steel cyborg superman superboy And skip the last guy
@@turtleanton6539 super girl was the third?
The death of Superman and then his three replacements were like some of the highest selling comics of all time ....and they fucked it up
The most disappointing part of the movie was that Steppenwolf never even played Born to be wild😡
I think my head would have exploded had they done that.
''It wasn't a big clusterfuck as BvS but still a pointless waste of my time of life.''
Rich Evans-2017
doubleP I could've turned off the review right there cuz Rich's comment sums up DC perfectly, but I stayed to enjoy RLM trash Minor League for almost forty minutes :)
This quate looks like a succes for DCEU XD
doubleP i love u rich evans
"Sure."
Rich Evans
I'm just here for the gay wedding storyline
Me too, I want to see what happens with their GAY WEDDING
1:28 delivery killed me
ARE YOU KIDDING? YOU BEETER BE U IGNORAMUS THE "GAY WEDDING' PLOT WAS WHEN HITB COMPLETELY JMPED THE SHARK. WRITING WENT OFF A CLIFF AFTER THE GEROGE LUCAS/TIM HEIDECKER VILLAIN PLOT
Thank you for your time.
nice one!
@@LPChipi same
You guys carried in an entire block of ice just to make a pun? I appreciate it
I thought it was really cool. I like when they just chill together. I always set aside a block of time every day to watch some RLM. And uhhh... something something ice... I dunno
What killed the dinosaurs?
The Ice Age!
"They killed superman off, just to bring him right back, it was pointless" Comic perfect.
Every time you guys said the bad guys name was Steppenwolf, I thought you were joking, because all I could think of was the band that played Magic Carpet Ride.
Bob Oxley This movie would have been so much better if it had been 2 hours of Batman getting punched in the face by a 9 foot tall Rushton Moreve.
Born to be wild
Pusherman
The villain in this movie did some bad stuff, but don't blame him. He was born to be wild.
Side note, that song would be perfect in a guardians of the galaxy movies.
Thank you to all the people who sent in extra copies of Vampire Hunter
kyubii972 you mean dull blade
I mispoke you are correct lol
I was thinking during the fight scene between Superman and the rest of the JL that this situation is exactly what the Suicide Squad was designed for. Where was Harley with her bat, Deadshot with his guns to stop Superman? Killer Croc could have easily taken out Superman with the help of Boomerang.
DC. What a joke.
Yeah! Amanda Waller, super genius: coerce a bunch of unpowered, unstable sociopaths to kill a demigod. I mean, if everybody was wearing kryptonite armor and shooting kryptonite weapons and they had someone whose power was to slow down Superman so he's not faster than the flash...then they'd still die because he'd stand off a few miles and torch them with his heat vision.
DC. What a joke.
Im going home
@@MrBrachiatingApe Laughs in Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
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You forgot about the guy who could climb anything
Rich's Lois Lane voice was horrifyingly authentic
Mike calling Aquaman "the Submariner" made me chuckle :3
A team of superheroes must face off against a villain from another realm with a horny hat who uses a magic cube and brings an army of faceless monsters to earth.
Fucking cubes, man.
Better movie if instead of a horny hat, he was just horny.
Avengers did it. To be fair the mother boxes are a piece of DC comics lore (they are) but the whole thing just came across as derivative and hackneyed. The problem is that WB/DC is in a reactive mode, and they don't have anyone at the top with any kind of vision to figure out what to do other than keep hiring Zack Snyder. Or go get Joss Whedon after he's done working with Marvel.
God, I loved Avengers.
I’m more excited for the Snyder Cut Half in the Bag than the actual movie
I’m convinced the release of the synder cut is just a ploy to get people to subscribe to hbo max now that game of thrones is done.
@@nickchavarria8052 That what ive been thinking
@@nickchavarria8052 Ding ding ding! Neat thing is, it doesn't matter if it turns out to be a good or bad movie.
Like with every other show that will be exclusive to a channel/streaming service, it's there to hook an audience, and if the audience doesn't like the film? Hey maybe watch more of our other shows before unsubbing! Maybe those will convince you that this platform is ok to keep!
Pretty much this, although some people insist that the directors cut of Batman v Superman is watchable.
the movie is gonna be bad, but at least snyder can put his vision out there for people to see after all these years.
They didn't need Superman to defeat Steppenwolf. All they had to do was challenge him to a rock-off.
The demon code would have prevented him from declining such a challenge .....
♪♩♪We are the League. We are the League. We are the League. We are the League.♪♩♪
It would be pretty tough for them to go up against such hits as "Born To Be Wild", "Magic Carpet Ride" and "The Pusher" tho
They could have knocked his socks off.
Cock-off would have suffice. Did you see the size of his foot!? He'd have won in an instant
"Star wars has hiked up its skirt...." Priceless! And so true!
The joke that got the most laughs from the two other guys. You understand how deep the star wars shit cuts them. You can't do anything but laugh.
That's what Asia Argento said
@@oldskoolchomp81 \* looks at the camera with a disappointment/disgust face while kazoo plays \*
@@claudiolluberes111 It's a slide whistle.
Justice League wanted to have their cake and eat it too.
They wanted to pretend like MoS and BvS either didn't exist or were completely different and that Superman was always a beacon of hope to the world. Even though BvS was all about how people didn't trust Superman and even Superman was so depressed that he didn't want to be Superman anymore.
But then the whole plot of the movie is dependent on BvS. They're still using the plot set up in BvS. Batman's character motivation is dependent on the events of BvS. They constantly reference BvS.
+ExtraRareTrumpSteak Woah, there.
A lot of people complained about that but I think it is normal to idolize people after they die. Like Lincoln and Kennedy were not universally loved in their day, both were actually pretty controvertial. But after their asassination everyone wanted to pretend they were best friends the whole time. But I do agree the movie seemed totally unaware of this fact and just straightforwardly acted like everyone loved Superman, instead of showing that they only remembered it that way.
So how does Clark Kent go back to work after the Daily Planet has a eulogy for him in one of their papers? Or do they never address that?
KingOfMadCows that beacon of hope being Superman line not even the movie it was wonder woman guys wonder woman haha lol
They can't escape BvS because it's like the big thing they threw all their eggs to, but it's like they can't really stick with that formula, either, because people fucking hated it. So they had to make the biggest compromise ever just to make this work even a little.
this was worth watching in 2020 for the gang's reaction to mike mentioning a "stand-alone joker movie outside the cinematic universe starring leonardo dicaprio or something" 28 minutes in
"I am many things Kal-El, but here, I'm a disappointment."
AnomalyINC great reference!
There is no sound more beautiful than the way Mike says "gay wedding"
1:30
Did not know where to post this, but my girlfriend surprised me with a "very cool" t-shirt in the mail for my bday and a signed space cop poster from ya'll. Thanks to all three of you for taking the time to do that! (and the GF of course;)
snuke37 Which is of course English for "voy cooage".
this film was like an episode of one punch man. everyone hits the bad guy and does nothing, than superman appears and low effort kills him
Except One punch man is good and actually uses the concept right. This movie can't even do it.
Or Dragonball Z, gotta collect the Dragon Balls to get Goku's ass out here to solve this fight for us.
Yup
Except Superman didn't kill him...
I wonder if Clark Kent just kind of showed up at the daily planet hoping nobody would've noticed he had been dead
Is Jay wearing a CGI Beard?
Damn rite no ones talking about dat in holywood Jay. How much did it cost Jay ?u sexy sick twisted 'greasey strangler' fan
Urek Mazino He's wearing a sweet fucboi haircut.
Gago Ikaw #wearegayforjay
Wait, did mike just manage to make a half in the bag episode without mentioning star trek once??? WHAT IS HAPPENING????
The World is changing.
When talking about bringing Superman back to life, he should have referenced how in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock where they find Spock's body resurrected by the Genesis device and had to transfer Spock's katra from McCoy into Spock's new body.
I’m 0% excited for the Snyder Cut
But oh boy I’m 100% excited for the RLM review of the Snyder Cut
The bad guy in Justice League remind me the bad guys in Power Ranger when i was young xD
No the Power Rangers villains were way, way more fun than Steppenwolf was.
They had a personality
Ivan ooze
I can name some PR villains that are more interesting and there are quite a few
Very true, but Thanos always reminds me of Power Ranger's Goldar.
The idea that darker = more mature is actually a very juvenile concept. The only people that actually think like this are 'new adults' who still feel a need to distance themselves from childhood. Once you become an 'actual adult' you realize that desaturating a movie and littering it with cursing and tits does not make it seem remotely 'more adult'. It just makes it look like it was written and directed by a 14 year old. It becomes especially ironic when the subject matter is the onscreen realization of your childhood hero fantasies. Protip for those still making the journey to adulthood: Once you actually get there, you'll probably spend the rest of your life (and half your paycheck) trying to reverse the process.
ponytailjones tell that to the people at the r/DC_Cinematic subreddit. They think these movies are the modern day Casablanca.
I have the same problem with Game of The Thrones.
EVERYTHING is so fucking boring.
That's just about the only reason why Revenge of the Sith got so better reception than the other two prequels in spite of being just as shitty in terms of storytelling and cinematography and even worse in the dialogue department. Teens simply got wet at the idea of slaughtering children and the rest, including "professional" reviewers, followed suit.
I think there's a lot to that. I also am of the opinion that Zack Snyder isn't actually literate and never really read "The Dark Knight Returns" because that story didn't work for a starting point for either Batman or Superman because that's supposed to be the "Last" Batman story (Frank Miller said that). The problem is that Snyder thinks making things awful and dark and abysmal makes them better, and he doesn't understand that the whole relationship between Batman and Superman works because of the contrast with them. They're both good men trying to help people, but they don't agree on the best way to do that, which is what makes their interaction interesting. Snyder isn't actually interested in developing his characters or telling a story, he just wants the visual of Batman being murderous and Superman snapping peoples necks. He reminds me of a lot of people I knew in college who took introductory philosophy or economics classes and started blathering on about something they read two paragraphs about with existentialism or the labor theory of value (not to knock either of those disciplines they're both great and very interesting if you really get into them). He thinks he's saying something really deep, but in actuality he's as shallow as your average kiddy pool. The reason the dark moments in the MCU (such as the dark parts of Iron Man 3, Winter Soldier, Civil War, Guardians 2, etc.) work is because you have the lighter moments to contrast them. If you don't have that contrast then it doesn't hold together as a story but it also doesn't get you invested. Also, anyone who thinks BVS was equivalent to Casablanca or Citizen Kane needs their freakin' head examined. I love the Marvel movies, every one of them, but I have no illusions that they're top tier cinematic triumphs. They're great fun, and they've brought the comics world to life, but I would never say they're up there with the greatest movies of all time, and they don't have to be either.
I'm kind of immune to that delusion, since I loved dark and serious stuff as a kid, and only as an adult is more lighthearted material like The Brave Little Toaster and Winnie the Pooh palatable for me
The vampire assassins are gathering their forces. The time to strike will come soon.
the funny part is that people are still sending them in, i sent in a couple myself yesterday hahahah
The Joker movie that has "nothing to do with the universe" is actually good.
Shazam which looks like a movie made as an after thought is actually better
The DCEU is a joke.
DarthAlphaTheGreat Oscar sinning good ;)
I agree, joker and shazam are the best movies in wb/dc since nolan. Also thought wonder woman was decent, not great but solid.
I think the DC characters don't really fit together in the the same universe, or at least not all of them.
@@schibleh531 Have you forgotten the animated universe?
@@wrestlinganime4life288 Did he also forget the comics?
"He needed to say 'Yoink'"... omg I died 😂
God I hope you guys do a BVS/Justice League style review with Rich when the Snyder Cut drops. You’d be able to film yourself cackling at it like BOTW and everything lol
Edit 7 months later: They did just that, AND the movie didn’t completely blow! Two pleasant surprises, for sure
They gotta drop it this week
Why so we can listen to rich suck off marvel and talk about how “smart” and. “Great” those movies are lol even tho there not
22:36 -- I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME. I was like "why are they ALWAYS in costume?" It added to that "Saturday Morning Cartoon" feel (GREAT analogy), and made it more difficult to take seriously.
When Mike said the best movie the 90's ever made, I immediately thought of the Dungeons and Dragons movie. It even has Jeremy Irons!
37:51 Jay's laugh there would actually make a perfect Joker laugh.
It actually does remind me a lot of the laugh by Mark Hamill
me and Rich went to the bathroom at the same time :D
I was able to grab a soda tho D:
Things I enjoyed:
- Wonder Woman deflecting the machine gun fire
- Cyborg introduction where he's talking to his dad
- Steppenwolf's fight with the Amazons
- "Evil" Superman fight
- The image of Aquaman chugging a bottle of vodka
"I love cheese" - alcoholic Wisconson man
"We need to assemble a team...so superman can do all of the work"
-The Synopsis of the movie
Honestly I'm more excited for bad movies to come out so I can watch half in the bag than I am watching the actual movie. Like right after star wars I can't wait for a half in the bag and a probable plinkett review
Yep, this is where we're at now: the review is actually more entertaining than the crappy film.
uzah88 I absolitely adore Steppenwolf because I see him as a Venture Bros character. He's so lacking in self-awareness of how bad he sucks, and I keep picturing that annoying the Monarch, who makes fun of him behind his back.
Steppenwolf fails in every scene he's in. When we first see him, he loses to cavemen and has a panic attack. When the dumbass Amazons decide to hide the Mother Box under a pile of rocks, Steppenwolf knocks down a thin stone wall and tackles a horse before fleeing in terror from 50 cavewomen a third his size with no armor and Bronze Age weaponry. Then he wrestles Aquaman to a draw despite being, again, three times his size. And unlike Zod and Doomsday, Superman breaks his fucking spine with a single punch, quips as he tortures him with his laser eyes, then tosses his battered body to be lynched by the Justice League, which causes Steppenwolf to have yet another panic attack and get dragged away by his own henchmen (?) to....somewhere?
Fuck Thanos. THAT'S an arc!
Jay is correct about the "actual Danny Elfman Batman music" being in the movie.
And Mike caught the original Superman theme, too.
do they not read the credits? of course that music was in it
Inertiaddict Gaming yeah, they literally just played the theme at one point
The League of Extraordinary Gentleman was a better movie than Justice League, and I stand by that.
EpoxyMuffin
“LOX Gentlemen” at the very least is consistent all throughout with tone and a three-act structure. “Justice League” is all over the place, no consistency whatsoever.
LXG was a competently made cheese-fest.
I suppose you are correct, but when you say it like that it sounds so pathetic
If Superman can solo the entire threat presented to the planet in the Justice League movie while a combination of Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Cyborg and Aquaman can't stop it, what does it say about the competence of those heroes in this universe? There's zero need for the Justice League to exist if Superman can do their job better than they can. _BY HIMSELF._
I get it, Superman is obviously the strongest hero in the setting, there's no disputing that, but the Justice League is supposed to be formed to take on threats he can't take on alone and needs allies for. Instead, in this universe, it's formed as a replacement for him until he can be brought back and he proceeds to render the entire existence of the JL in this universe pointless by pretty much soloing the villain.
So what do we learn from the Justice League movie? That the titular League are all fucking geeks and Superman can defend the planet by himself. Nice one DCEU, just die already.
Superman has always been disproportionately strong in the comics. But they still managed to wring the odd good story out of him :-)
Just like goku on dbz lol
Don't you have to have six people for a bowling team?
I mean obviously the JL needs to exist in order to revive Superman when he's killed so he can come back and win the fight later.
Exactly. The other heroes should be doing other stuff related to their unique talents while Superman fights/holds off the giant strong threat.
Wait, so why did the dirt move on Supe's casket at the end of Batman v. Superman again?
Joker Resurrected Don’t ask logical questions
Yeah it's glossed over. They need a mother with a flash charge to revive him.
Because they don't know what they're doing that s why
A wizard did it
"his cells don't degenerate" is not an explanation.
The jokes in this episode were just so great, and when mike screamed “gay wedding” I lose it every time
Danger Close Yeah.
"Just Ice"
I RECOGNIZED THAT REFERENCE. AND I CLAPPED.
These are things i know!
Only DC would get a great actor like Ciaran Hinds and make him a dodgy CGI villain.
This review is infinitely more entertaining than the movie. Hell, just the melting block of ice is more entertaining.
Oh fuck off you DC fuckboy
It's really telling that I can see the deleted comment.
it was boring
TheCAWstudios that’s a reach. Im a marvel fan and even I thought Justice league was awesome
I was more riveted to that dripping than JL
Am I the only one who goes back and rewatches RLM shit? "They're trying to make this... not horrible"
they should just reboot their whole cinematic universe, it's impossible to save this mess, maybe they can do a crisis thing to explain a new timeline with new actors.
Pelger they are doing Flashpoint
they don't even have to explain anything. it's not like anyone gave a shit when they replaced roadie? from iron man, or jim norton hulk, or mentioned katie holmes's extensive plastic surgery that turned her into maggie gyllenhaal. they could just make a movie with different actors playing the same characters and looks like guardians of the galaxy and people and nobody would care(unless it was terrible). it's like wb thinks people will be confused if it's a different actor as if it's real life
the force awakens was ok, take it as a "tribute" to the original trilogy.
rogue one was an horrible piece of shit, it was like suicide squad, uninteresting plot, shallow uninteresting characters, it was a mess. the only good thing is the vader scene, but the rest is crap.
now I want them to stop!. they keep announcing new star wars stuff when they haven't released what they already announced, episode 8 hasn't come out yet and they are already announcing like four more movies, it's insane. they are destroying the franchise, it's worse than lucas and his prequels.
That might work!
Pelger nice, very original opinions
I wonder if anyone sent copies of Vampire Assassin.
twitter.com/redlettermedia/status/928386773218099201
I see a few copies.
lol i honestly didn't even notice them
"I did thought I hear the Superman theme come in" -Rich Evans
Howard the Duck did more at the box office than Dredd.
Fuck my life.
Mike and Jay's question about Snyder's fans has been answered: their response has been to start a petition for a "Zack Snyder cut" of the movie from WB, with 70,000+ signatures and counting, all by people who don't realize it's impossible to release a "director's cut" of a movie when that director left the movie before it was done shooting
Mega Zeta can't release a directors cut when he only filmed about 80% of his movie
You can at least make an extended edition. Sure, they'll probably have to Alan Smithee the thing, but still.
I honestly find it hard to believe zack snyder has fans.
The movie was done btw. February 2017 they were doing color correction which means the edit was locked down which means no more footage would be needed to be shot or edited in. WB saw a cut in March and said "nah we gotta change it." The movie was done before the re-shoots were ordered.
Anyone that counts 300 as a classic is no friend of mine. Dawn of the Dead was okay. Watchmen... sigh.
Every time Steppenwolf came on screen, my friends and I started singing "Born To Be Wild"
TheIdiot I kept expecting him to burst into "Magic Carpet Ride" and was disappointed every time he didn't.
What Cyborg said at the end was "Booyah", which was his catchphrase in the Teen Titans cartoon.
lolitstim I laughed way too loud when he said it. In the stupidest inflection possible.
I think the poster was supposed to say "You KENT save the world alone"
The Flash looked like he stole the Red Power Rangers outfit and slapped his emblem on it. ;)
Me: “Why the hell is an ice bock part of their into skit?
Jay: “... Just Ice”
Me internally: “They really set that up for that pun seriously lol”
I love how Vampire Assassin is everywhere in the room now lol
I demand a 10 hour long RLM review of the snyder cut.
Watch it with a fresh “Snyder-cut” of shaq meat
Yeah, eFAP that shit.
Instead of watching the theatrical release of Justice League then the Snyder Cut I am just watching their respective Half in the Bag episodes.
I can’t believe that (Coming Soon) did all those horrible thing. I don’t think I can watch (Beloved Media Product) ever again.
I heard (Coming Soon) (Already Came)
Turbo_Egg_Salad i think alfs already known as a sex offender
Harris : I don't think I can watch him do all those horrible things again.
"Mark Hamill confesses to running a child sex slave ring with Stephen Spielberg and Robert Downey Jr. One of the boys who grew up in this ring by the name of Daniel Radcliffe (who rose to stardom after a particularly raunchy night with JK Rowling got him a starring role in the Harry Potter films) would later become a major player in the organization." There! I just ruined Star Wars, Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, and the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe in one fell swoop.
Assuming they actually did, even though all the fuss was about mere accusations
I just saw "Murder on the Orient Express" tonight, and then snuck into the "Just-ice League" movie to get a glimpse of it, and that Superman's eyeball scene is the one thing I saw!! I actually thought "huh, maybe this is pretty good".
Matthew Gaffney how was Murder on the Orient Express?
ScruffyLookin1138 i really enjoyed it. Felt like a movie from a vanished era, but with modern gorgeous photography. Nice ensemble acting, twists felt meaningful even if they weren't all shocking. I recommend it.
I agree. I really enjoyed it, and I was pretty surprised it got such shitty reviews. Some shoddy acting at the start but it got into a rhythm and stayed interesting until the end.
Sure yoiu only saw exactly that scene, sure man... we all belive you, you didn't watch the whole film, sure...
I just found you guys. Here’s a nice little compliment for y’all.
I used to watch Mystery Science Theater 3000 with my Dad. You guys remind me of a modern day version of it, and I love it. Hope you guys are still making content. I just found y’all a day or two ago with the Rogue One intro skit.
They are still going strong shame the same cant be said about mainstream movies
I genuinely don't understand why Justice League War can exist years before this movie, as a stand alone movie, and be so infinitely better than this blockbuster made with a far higher budget. It'd have been one of the few times where pure plagiarism would have been so desirable.
same can be said for the dark knight returns and BvS it's basically a similar story just worse in every way imaginable.
That also holds true for Suicide Squad. Batman: Assault on Arkham is superior to it, in just about every way.
Holds true for Green Lantern: First Flight (2009) as well. I saw it after the live action film (2011) unfortunately, but the whole time I was watching it, all I could think was “Why didn’t they just make this story in live action?”