Wow I'm so sorry that this happened to you. This video that made it really makes me think about my decision about D9. But I noticed that you have the paddle so I'm curious if you went all the way through the process meaning having a probate? Also well do you regret saying that you were interested?
Great Que's I actually ordered this paddle for an illustration of a book I was writing. But didn't finish the process no. I don't regret it because I learned so much or my growth in a sad way from it. So much life has happened for me in a positive way afterwards. Not directly because of it but my determination to live. Thank you for your support and watching. 🌹
I am thankful for things becoming better for some or most of these processes. No one touched me and it has transitioned into being more mental than physical.
I somehow randomly stumbled onto this video and watched several videos and I just wanted to say that I am very impressed by your knowledge and delivery of topics. You sound very down to earth and empathetic. Good luck on this journey and in life. New subscriber.
This is so not a fake story! I was supposed to do this because of "Legacy" but one i did my own research, wasnt for me! Some of the lingo he uses in his message identify exactly whom he speaks of!! Not all of you will understand!My brother, bless you and thanks for your story!
@CulturedUnplugged thank you for having the courage to say something! I know how conflicted you were about doing, but trust me, u have helped more people than you know just by being as honest as possible!
Mannnnn..to pledge into a Frat is a matter of perspective. We had 7, one dropped, he couldn't hack it..search your soul, understand what you're joining.. please know that Diamonds are pressurized and they shine when they're complete with the process..an experience is an experience..just remove yourself and don't try to reinvent the wheel..Yo♦️!
Yes, I had friends who dropped to and are doing pretty well in life as professionals but still have interest in some orgs. also. For some process is to rgiours but doesn't make u bad person for stoping
Be careful these are not of the lord! Scripture manipulated, rituals, bowing at alters, idolatry, breaking of the spirit. Stay far away from all sororities and fraternities children of God.
@@jameswade9202 A better groups to join for service based orgs. Is 100 black men o America. They do more for our communities and there are some frats in this 2
Not to dimmish this brother's experience, but this is the problem with anecdotal evidence. For every story of hazing (which is against the official rules of every single D9 org), there is somebody who didn't go through any of that stuff. Also, hazing is not a unique problem with D9. Bands, sports teams, the military, and many other groups have problems with hazing. What he said at the end of the video is key. Don't allow stuff like hazing to happen and go unreported. The only way the "culture" of hazing gets changed is to start reporting it.
@@arntrezlacy399 I’m not saying it never happens, but it’s not the norm imo. Most orgs have cracked down on it and made the penalty severe enough it’s happening less and less.
@@brianarthurbowman1 aspirants should be instilled in promoting goals of the orgs and professional. From past practiced hazing not necessarily on a kid. Pledge the mind and make sure aspirated hold up the goals of the frat. From research study. How do we know if founders pledged per say. Mental analysis of the pledge topic if they didn't why are people taking pledges through a barbaric process and this has been passed down for years among applicants at schools. The orgs have paid out many law suites from folks that were reckless in getting members in. This money could have gone towards helping fund scholarships to kids Sometimes to pic our brains. FyI. Folks do things the right way with the frats.. I am sure some will disagree.
I think we need to be way more honest with ourselves in terms of how often this happens. Like these fraternities sing about The Hazing practices in their chants. Like we know its happening.
What most people don’t understand is that Satan requires a person to be humiliated to be a part of his organization. The God of the Bible requires humbleness to be a part of his family, When Christ was beaten and humiliated for us to be a part of the family of God. There is no reason for a blood-washed born-again believer to be beaten to be a part of man’s organization. Christ was publicly, beaten and humiliated, not privately done or secretly done as fraternities and sororities do, but it was done publicly!
I'm not sure how being humiliated can make you a person of excellence. If life is not hard enough, why would I need to be tormented by another man just to belong to an organization that makes a covenant with other gods? You cannot serve two masters.
Wow, thanks for sharing. I wanted to join a D9 , but they didn’t have any real ones (big enough) at my institution , so I went IFC route and I am really happy. I never endured any crazy abuse , but I thank you for sharing your story and giving the truth to the next brother. Much love!
This is good, I feel if you are honestly sharing, you may help people with having them understand their why. If that is superficial (like the examples you shared), then they open themselves up to many actions. Conversely, if their why is of substance, then they will not fall into any trap. Broadly fraternities/sororities so not condone hazing, still there are specific chapters within each organization that is problematic. So, as you are getting to know the people in the chapter, also learn about their reputation - just like you would do for a place of employment. If you learn the place is racist, you would likely have a decision to make. I enjoyed hearing about your experience, if you were to retell it, I would consider starting with what you ended with and build up to the information you led with. This would be more beneficial in informing others of the big choice they would want to make: either you take it, and then move ti make changes for future lines, or you walk away and you seek out chapters in the organization of interest who do not engage is hazing practices.
I am all for men no matter their ethnicity or background, joining an organization with the intent of wanting to be apart of something bigger than themselves. Furthermore, i am against hazing or intentionally doing things to others with the intent to hurt or ruin someone’s mental state…..CR this was 16 years ago brother and a lot transpired at that time that affected a lot of people including yourself why is this still a topic of discussion?
@@khalilcoleman6249 Mr. Coleman you have a problem sharing my story? You know me from somewhere? You don't have to watch nor comment on this video or any content I have shared. The real question is why do you care ?
This is the old way of doing things I endured it in the band but got my degree and I joined Grad chapter. Now in this day and time each organization has an Anti hazing policy to combat that. Hazing does not happen on the grad level depending on the organization it it’s still frowned upon my organization doesn’t do that anymore. These things happened to me in band 30 yrs ago and further back in the 90’s and 80’s. It’s been 15 yrs for him now what he is not sharing is did he get compensation for what happened to him and did the ones who did this the fraternity excommunicate their asses! Believe me only two organizations have still on going problems with this. This was mostly an under grad thing. Grad chapter is better don’t believe everything he says that’s his experience and I’m sorry that happened to him but if he didn’t report it when it first started that’s on him. Do your own research please people.
gOOD TAKE: yES, BUT A LOT OF YOUNG MEN IN THE US STILL HAVE THIS EXPERIENCE. AND IT DOES VARY FROM ORG TO ORG/CHAPTER TO CHAPTER ABOUT THESE ANTICIS. . THIS WAS MORE PREVELANT IN THE 80S AND 90S AMONG GREEK CULTURE/SPORTS/BANDS. ALSO, FACT CHECK THERE HAVE BEEN SOME GRAD CHAPTER BEEN KNOWN FOR HAZING PROCESSES ALSO BUT NOT AS BAND AS UDNERGRAD LINES PER SAY. GOO COVO
Be careful these are not of the lord! Scripture manipulated, rituals, bowing at alters, idolatry, breaking of the spirit. Stay far away from all sororities and fraternities children of God.
Listen, is there a way to join a D9 fraternity WITHOUT alll that pledging process? Otherwise, it's not worth it! I just wanna join based on the fact that my GPA is good and I graduated with my degree!
@CulturedUnplugged guys thatctook u throughvexp have no idea what being in an org is about.these men didn't have a clue and ir dumbfounded. Real meaning isxwhen you leave college and what you do in a career and community impact . Breaking it down. In u dergrad they follow the pattern and brainwash lines with we went throught it and so will the next line. Also research suggest those that haze have lower self esteem and most members through research can't not proovrcifcfounders actually went through a process when the orgs started in 1900s . Wheres the research evidence per say todays members. Ask the guys that put u through this this question. Something to ponder about mentality as aspirants and members. What's your take guy. Man who wants to getpaddled over some letters . Man gfoh lol see new roland martin vid over hazing also
I was thinking he was talking about Phi Beta Sigma too. Then context clues started giving Omega Psi Phi. He could also be talking about Alpha Phi Alpha too. Sorry It didn't work out for the Brother. Everyone's process is different.
The one thing that I did not like about this video is, it’s too vague. Not enough context. You can share your story of what happened in the fraternity, if it’s your story. If you are not lying, who can sue you? I see videos all over the place of people naming the school they went to, the fraternity or sorority theyjoined, etc. Not to diminish your experience, but I’m not really feeling the lack of information.
@@IamThatDude as mentioned in order to protect the legalities in place I had no choice but to share within reason. I appreciate your insight but I have no reason to do anything else but keep it authentic.
@@CulturedUnpluggedI appreciate this being authentic in the way of you being open and not hiding behind a mask or face as some other videos. Authenticity means something original and true to one’s self or real genuine. I get it
What makes this shit? Why is my life experience not important to talk about vs a story made for entertainment? Sir log out and don't log back on here again there is enough clowns with more entertainment on here.
Wow I'm so sorry that this happened to you. This video that made it really makes me think about my decision about D9. But I noticed that you have the paddle so I'm curious if you went all the way through the process meaning having a probate? Also well do you regret saying that you were interested?
Great Que's I actually ordered this paddle for an illustration of a book I was writing. But didn't finish the process no. I don't regret it because I learned so much or my growth in a sad way from it. So much life has happened for me in a positive way afterwards. Not directly because of it but my determination to live. Thank you for your support and watching. 🌹
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I am thankful for things becoming better for some or most of these processes. No one touched me and it has transitioned into being more mental than physical.
This makes me more optimistic for the process im interested in a d9 but worried about the physical hazing
I somehow randomly stumbled onto this video and watched several videos and I just wanted to say that I am very impressed by your knowledge and delivery of topics. You sound very down to earth and empathetic. Good luck on this journey and in life. New subscriber.
@@Basha1969 thank you brother
These are historical
Groups..
They will never be torn
Down..
Those who complain
Are not allowed to be
A judge of and jury
My BROTHER, I agree with you 100%. I have an idea what organization you talking about.
This is so not a fake story! I was supposed to do this because of "Legacy" but one i did my own research, wasnt for me! Some of the lingo he uses in his message identify exactly whom he speaks of!! Not all of you will understand!My brother, bless you and thanks for your story!
@@memphissamplers5345 thank you for yours of support and kindness. I appreciate wholeheartedly.
@CulturedUnplugged thank you for having the courage to say something! I know how conflicted you were about doing, but trust me, u have helped more people than you know just by being as honest as possible!
Mannnnn..to pledge into a Frat is a matter of perspective. We had 7, one dropped, he couldn't hack it..search your soul, understand what you're joining.. please know that Diamonds are pressurized and they shine when they're complete with the process..an experience is an experience..just remove yourself and don't try to reinvent the wheel..Yo♦️!
Yes, I had friends who dropped to and are doing pretty well in life as professionals but still have interest in some orgs. also. For some process is to rgiours but doesn't make u bad person for stoping
facts👌🏾♦️👌🏾
Facts Nupe. I was the Tail. For anyone who knows there’s a reason for the phrase the “Tail is Hell”. Wouldn’t change a single thing. 👌🏽♦️👌🏽
Be careful these are not of the lord! Scripture manipulated, rituals, bowing at alters, idolatry, breaking of the spirit. Stay far away from all sororities and fraternities children of God.
@@jameswade9202 A better groups to join for service based orgs. Is 100 black men o America. They do more for our communities and there are some frats in this 2
Not to dimmish this brother's experience, but this is the problem with anecdotal evidence. For every story of hazing (which is against the official rules of every single D9 org), there is somebody who didn't go through any of that stuff. Also, hazing is not a unique problem with D9. Bands, sports teams, the military, and many other groups have problems with hazing. What he said at the end of the video is key. Don't allow stuff like hazing to happen and go unreported. The only way the "culture" of hazing gets changed is to start reporting it.
@@arntrezlacy399 I’m not saying it never happens, but it’s not the norm imo. Most orgs have cracked down on it and made the penalty severe enough it’s happening less and less.
@brianarthurbowman1 understand gotten better since the 80s but see some of my takes below from a history education standpoint. Good convo guy
@@brianarthurbowman1 aspirants should be instilled in promoting goals of the orgs and professional. From past practiced hazing not necessarily on a kid. Pledge the mind and make sure aspirated hold up the goals of the frat. From research study. How do we know if founders pledged per say. Mental analysis of the pledge topic if they didn't why are people taking pledges through a barbaric process and this has been passed down for years among applicants at schools. The orgs have paid out many law suites from folks that were reckless in getting members in. This money could have gone towards helping fund scholarships to kids Sometimes to pic our brains. FyI. Folks do things the right way with the frats.. I am sure some will disagree.
I think we need to be way more honest with ourselves in terms of how often this happens. Like these fraternities sing about The Hazing practices in their chants. Like we know its happening.
What most people don’t understand is that Satan requires a person to be humiliated to be a part of his organization. The God of the Bible requires humbleness to be a part of his family, When Christ was beaten and humiliated for us to be a part of the family of God. There is no reason for a blood-washed born-again believer to be beaten to be a part of man’s organization. Christ was publicly, beaten and humiliated, not privately done or secretly done as fraternities and sororities do, but it was done publicly!
I'm not sure how being humiliated can make you a person of excellence. If life is not hard enough, why would I need to be tormented by another man just to belong to an organization that makes a covenant with other gods? You cannot serve two masters.
Wow, thanks for sharing. I wanted to join a D9 , but they didn’t have any real ones (big enough) at my institution , so I went IFC route and I am really happy. I never endured any crazy abuse , but I thank you for sharing your story and giving the truth to the next brother. Much love!
Thank you for watching brother.
Yes it still goes on in 24 in undergrad s of today. Barbaric process. It was buffer in the 80s and 90s at schools
What’s Ifc?
This is good, I feel if you are honestly sharing, you may help people with having them understand their why. If that is superficial (like the examples you shared), then they open themselves up to many actions. Conversely, if their why is of substance, then they will not fall into any trap. Broadly fraternities/sororities so not condone hazing, still there are specific chapters within each organization that is problematic. So, as you are getting to know the people in the chapter, also learn about their reputation - just like you would do for a place of employment. If you learn the place is racist, you would likely have a decision to make. I enjoyed hearing about your experience, if you were to retell it, I would consider starting with what you ended with and build up to the information you led with. This would be more beneficial in informing others of the big choice they would want to make: either you take it, and then move ti make changes for future lines, or you walk away and you seek out chapters in the organization of interest who do not engage is hazing practices.
Thanks for sharing. Bless up!!
That’s crazy… out of control and not worth it. Let alone what it must have done to your GPA…
It plummeted for sure
My thing the same way you came i leave out. One person experience is the whole.
RQQ to the PSI PHI
I am all for men no matter their ethnicity or background, joining an organization with the intent of wanting to be apart of something bigger than themselves. Furthermore, i am against hazing or intentionally doing things to others with the intent to hurt or ruin someone’s mental state…..CR this was 16 years ago brother and a lot transpired at that time that affected a lot of people including yourself why is this still a topic of discussion?
@@khalilcoleman6249 Mr. Coleman you have a problem sharing my story? You know me from somewhere? You don't have to watch nor comment on this video or any content I have shared. The real question is why do you care ?
This is the old way of doing things I endured it in the band but got my degree and I joined Grad chapter. Now in this day and time each organization has an Anti hazing policy to combat that. Hazing does not happen on the grad level depending on the organization it it’s still frowned
upon my organization doesn’t do that anymore. These things happened to me in band 30 yrs ago and further back in the 90’s and 80’s. It’s been 15 yrs for him now what he is not sharing is did he get compensation for what happened to him and did the ones who did this the fraternity excommunicate their asses! Believe me only two organizations have still on going problems with this. This was mostly an under grad thing. Grad chapter is better don’t believe everything he says that’s his experience and I’m sorry that happened to him but if he didn’t report it when it first started that’s on him. Do your own research please people.
gOOD TAKE: yES, BUT A LOT OF YOUNG MEN IN THE US STILL HAVE THIS EXPERIENCE. AND IT DOES VARY FROM ORG TO ORG/CHAPTER TO CHAPTER ABOUT THESE ANTICIS. . THIS WAS MORE PREVELANT IN THE 80S AND 90S AMONG GREEK CULTURE/SPORTS/BANDS. ALSO, FACT CHECK THERE HAVE BEEN SOME GRAD CHAPTER BEEN KNOWN FOR HAZING PROCESSES ALSO BUT NOT AS BAND AS UDNERGRAD LINES PER SAY. GOO COVO
He probly did report, sued n settled hence he cannot say too much . So if a girl doesn’t report being raped that means it didn’t happen ? Like wat?
Be careful these are not of the lord! Scripture manipulated, rituals, bowing at alters, idolatry, breaking of the spirit. Stay far away from all sororities and fraternities children of God.
This a lil too much info
Listen, is there a way to join a D9 fraternity WITHOUT alll that pledging process? Otherwise, it's not worth it! I just wanna join based on the fact that my GPA is good and I graduated with my degree!
Join a Alumni chapter
Join nth
@@Sparklessssssssss what does nth stand for?
@ stands for nothing
On paper
Did
U
Make It??
No sadly not. Once the investigation happened that was the end of that.
@@CulturedUnplugged youtube video called he ant heavy u will be shocked
@@CulturedUnplugged good book is Walter kimbouroghts greek 101. Google is. Good read on pledge process. Author is alpha
@CulturedUnplugged guys thatctook u throughvexp have no idea what being in an org is about.these men didn't have a clue and ir dumbfounded. Real meaning isxwhen you leave college and what you do in a career and community impact . Breaking it down. In u dergrad they follow the pattern and brainwash lines with we went throught it and so will the next line. Also research suggest those that haze have lower self esteem and most members through research can't not proovrcifcfounders actually went through a process when the orgs started in 1900s . Wheres the research evidence per say todays members. Ask the guys that put u through this this question. Something to ponder about mentality as aspirants and members. What's your take guy. Man who wants to getpaddled over some letters . Man gfoh lol see new roland martin vid over hazing also
Bring other ins is about building character and molding and shaping new aspirants ideally.
You talking about my frat ΦΒΣ…
Sounds more like Q
I was thinking he was talking about Phi Beta Sigma too. Then context clues started giving Omega Psi Phi. He could also be talking about Alpha Phi Alpha too.
Sorry It didn't work out for the Brother. Everyone's process is different.
The one thing that I did not like about this video is, it’s too vague. Not enough context. You can share your story of what happened in the fraternity, if it’s your story. If you are not lying, who can sue you? I see videos all over the place of people naming the school they went to, the fraternity or sorority theyjoined, etc. Not to diminish your experience, but I’m not really feeling the lack of information.
@@IamThatDude as mentioned in order to protect the legalities in place I had no choice but to share within reason. I appreciate your insight but I have no reason to do anything else but keep it authentic.
@@CulturedUnplugged, I understand. I don’t understand why it is different for you than others. But, all good. 👍🏽
@@CulturedUnpluggedI appreciate this being authentic in the way of you being open and not hiding behind a mask or face as some other videos. Authenticity means something original and true to one’s self or real genuine. I get it
Don't believe that he is lying
Cap
I don't think so
Chatty Patty smh
@@randellito yet you chatting on my channel. See your way out.
Man up.
Let your mama do it first
😂😂
Ummmmmm definitely watch school daze and not this shit
What makes this shit? Why is my life experience not important to talk about vs a story made for entertainment? Sir log out and don't log back on here again there is enough clowns with more entertainment on here.
Hey might have been exp and just sharing.
He's lying 😅
What do I have to gain from lying about an experience I went through. Do me a favor..log out for me.
stop freaking lying bruh.....