GX's are the fleet pov pack units. They work on mine sites etc. The Patrol doesn't offer a cheap and nasty version. A Sahara is north of $120K so that's $50K of fuel and accessories you can spend on the Patrol!
It should be that way. A proper Land Cruiser doesn't need all the luxury. It is a very good off road vehicle, that can withstand whatever you throw at it.
The current Patrol looks a lot better than the one reviewed here. There was a change to the front bumper, headlights and taillights back in 2014. I am not surprised the changes were not released in Australia because there has been low demand there on this vehicle due to the fact that Nissan does not built Y62s with diesel engines. That being said I am a Y62 2015 Patrol owner and I absolutely love the car. Entry level here however is not as expensive as that one but is pretty much devoid of any features.
Wait. That Patrol is the outdated one. The Patrol has gone a major facelift in 2014 and it looks much better than that. -Abu Dhabi, Patrols and LCs roll a lot here and Patrol is the undisputed king in both driving and luxury.
Have to laugh at the comments on diesels being a must off road or for touring, do some research people, modern diesels are more complicated and less reliable than modern petrols. There's also plenty of y62s being used to travel every corner of the country with no problems at all. it's also fantastic in real off road conditions, take the word of people that actually use them in these conditions and have done for years now.
+Trav Giles AGreed mate, lot of people just bull shit around stating LC got Diesel. Does it really matter ? A Patrol Y61 3 Litre Diesel is a better buy than LC for half its price.
I can’t believe no one ever comment how silly this is. I know it is 7 years later but let’s be honest if you go big hills, tight corners, big mid holes, shit spots USUALLY a good diesel works without effort Let’s just all love good times and a car has a choice and print point and that’s the main reason
I know it's not the same, but I own the luxury versions of both in the U.S. I have an Infiniti QX56 and a Land Cruiser 200. I got both used since I have 5 kids and my wife and I decided against a minivan. I take both off road about 5 times a month. We love to go on road trips and short weekends in north California, Oregon, and Washington. So, I had gotten the LC 1 year before the QX, and I thought it was the greatest off road/expedition vehicle ever... Until the QX came into my life! The independent suspension on all 4 corners is really good OFF ROAD! Believe me guys, there is a reason most new military off road vehicles are priding themselves on off independent suspension... It's good, really good. The other plus is that the QX is wider by about 3 inches which really feels nice inside. It's also longer which is perfect when you end up having to sleep inside the vehicle with the seats folded on a foam pad because of a bad thunderstorm and winds that could turn a tent into a parachute! The LC wouldn't have fit me in the back unless I fold over! Here in the U.S. we don't get a diesel SUV, so we don't get an advantage of one over the other. I think both vehicles are great, and would be very happy with either with a little more happiness with the QX which is a Patrol without the blanked out switches! BTW those switches that are blanked are all full in the Infiniti QX, they are for heated/cooled seats, heated steering wheel...
That is not a fair comparison. You said luxury version, the luxury version of LC200 and counterpart of Infiniti QX56 is the LEXUS LX570. By the way we have the 2016 LC200 and I have no complaints. Sure the luxurious and more expensive brands of Toyota (LEXUS) and Nissan (Infiniti) should be better!
Nice video CarAdvise...bt i wanted to knw frm u guys that which is a better SUV to buy toyota land cruiser or nissan patrol i mean which SUV is value for money...better ride quality, better offroad capability...pls answer this I really want to know...
With the price difference you can get patrol, spend 10k on upgrades and make it even better and customised, and have plenty left for years of rego, petrol and insurance
Toyota fans failed to realise Nissan Patrol in this video is also a low range model as is the Toyota Land Cruiser. Both high range spec models are excellent reliable engine but honestly the Patrol is far superior in its engine, technology, speed and luxury. It rips the Land Cruiser. In Dubai the rich drive and prefer the Patrol. Most people in the West can't afford to run both these cars as they suck fuel due to their big engines. Most go for SUVs under 3litre engine sizes.
+Jimbob Toyota take advantage of the vehicle's reputation, R&D/Material costs don't justify a 63k base model price for a two door trayless ute. They're a vehicle targeted to a market that has barely been touched, they can charge whatever they want.
+Shaanan Birleson I'm certainly not, I understand the true value of what an item is worth and with the Land Cruiser you've always had a relatively shitty price/features/performance ratio. Look at the new Ford Ranger WildTrak, wonderfully built vehicle with a comprehensive technology package and it costs $3K more than a NEW BASE MODEL TWO DOOR LAND CRUISER that's reminiscent of the 80's..
+Shaanan Birleson I hope you're joking.. It's medium-sized, the engine has 3 cylinders less, a 1.3L capacity difference than the 4.5L TD and makes MORE TORQUE than your beloved baseline Landcruiser and is better on fuel.. Hills? I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not.. Sand? Well.. yeah with the tyres it comes with but it isn't any less capable if both drivers have the same skill levels.
+Shaanan Birleson Right, well it isn't unexpected the stock tyre dimensions are kinda narrow. I've seen how easy they sink in. With the savings remaining from not buying a land cruiser 200 you could just upgrade tyres etc.. Ranger Wildtrak is like.. 62,000 brand new while a new baseline Land cruiser GX is like 84,000 which is the one on this video. If you compare specifically what you get for your money regarding the LC/Rangers with at least 5 seats, the wildtrak offers so much more for the money. For $20,000 less you sacrifice a tiny bit of offroad-worthiness but end up with a much nicer vehicle to be in.
Will you REALLY be better off? Justify your comments lol And yes I've seen the specs.. Higher fuel consumption, lower torque, doesn't come with a tray and only the essentials FOR 74K. I'm finding it hard to communicate to you that for thousands less, the ranger comes with EVERYTHING. If you want a better comparison, the baseline LC four-door ute is 74K right? Well the baseline four-door ranger is 42k. It makes no economical sense.
Hey guys!! I've just read through the comment section and I have to say it's pretty awful, I am a LandCruiser fan and the car is overpriced but those of you with any amount of schooling in economics under the belt will know the price is determined by the market mechanism NOT Toyota trying to milk old ladies! So as soon as they become less popular the price will fall. Both of these are great cars and I have no problem with the Patrol winning in the video, we are in a time in history where comfort and buttons mean a lot, but when it comes to handing over the cash I will choose the Cruiser and I have no problem if someone else chooses the Patrol, it is your choice. Lets not fight about these things and rather enjoy them together.
I was set on a VX 200 series, drove back to back and there is simply no comparison. People need to wake up to the Toyota tax which is being placed on everyone. The V8 in the Patrol eats the Toyota alive. I have towed with both and with a 1.5T camper, the Patrol is only marginally more thirsty. Managed to pick up a MY15 series 2 Y62 Ti for 64K, brand spanka, bargain. The 200 Series is feeling very outdated and the seven seat configuration set up is shit house. For all those who have not driven one, Patrol that is, just test it and you will see. CarAdvice, it would be good to see a proper off road test and tow test and perhaps compare say comparative features VS price as i think the VX in a cruiser would be about 96K which really throws sand in Tojos face.
Wogs Put on some real weight, a 6 cylinder commodore will pull 1.5Tonne. Try 3.5 Tonne or more, it's a different world that would make a Y62 scream That why I didn''t buy a Nissan. If it had a Cummins 5 or 6 litre, I would of bought the Nissan Then that would be been a real world comparison, not the bullshit from Not so Good Car Advice
The Nissan has really bad fuel consumption and a small, single tank. That aside, I really have to agree with these chaps. It surprisingly is pretty good value for money in that segment and is incredibly capable off road. Had an opportunity to bash one around in my Home Country of Kenya (where roads are optional 😁) and it genuinely blew my mind. My only concern was "Range anxiety". You'd have to strap on some Jerricans for a long lazy weekend cruise to the middle of nowhere.
Mine has a 150L sub tank so 300L of fuel on board. Towing 2.5T it gets over 1000km per tank at 110km/h. Not towing, it's heading towards 1500km. Same or better range than a Cruiser........
Did a trip with a modified 200 series. 10,000km. Patrol worked out $200 cheaper in the end. And we were both having to fill up at the same times, so same ranges.
Things would be great if Nissan built the Patrol in a diesel version. The land cruiser has no competition here in Australia, and Toyota know it. So they charge a lot more than it's really worth. But as said in the review Nissan's main target with the Patrol is the oil rich arab countries where petrol is ridiculously cheap.
Im a cruiser person, but Nissan really need that Cummins diesel, It must be so embarrasing for Nissan Australia, If I could of got a 4 or 5 litre cummins, I definately would of considered the Nissan, I pull a 3.5 tonne Van and no bullshit either that or the Toyota 4.5DTT would pull it and stop it safely
You pair are lame AF. When did fuel economy owning diesels & being scrooge tight old farts become the Aussie way? besides real world testing has proved touring & towing the y62 is very close to the 1VD-DUD & yet overall $27000 cheaper.
Adam Moore - petrol’s nearly the same price in the UAE & Oz, dummy - When it comes to ownership costs, one’d have to run that V8 ‘Trol tens of thousands of kilometres before it even cost as much as that ‘Cruiser 😄 plus, diesel f***s up during snowstorm winters in the Victorian alps or the Snowy mountains - petrol doesn’t. I’m from NSW, however I’ll say what they say in the UAE - where V8 ‘Trols are everywhere - “...sure - take your Landcruisers, but have one Patrol to stay safe!”
Good comparison based on the price range / model level. Sure ... in Oz and NZ, diesels are more easily fuelled and the range helps - there aren't just as many petrol stations in our deserts as there are in the UAE or Russia. If people wanted diesel off roaders, then the cheaper option would be the Y61 'Trol. It runs a bullet proof diesel that could tow as much as bigger diesels from other car makers. In the price range at which this comparison video was based on, the Y62 'Trol wins hands down. Most drivers rarely venture into the outback where diesel is an advantage. A petrol engine is quieter, smoother and at 5.7L in V8 form, is quite the combination. Remember that this is a Nissan engine - back in the 90s, Nissan kept winning the V8 Supercars with a front-wheel-driven car. Nissan makes awesome engines. Obviously Nissan's price slashing approach makes the Y62 'Trol financially viable too. Then of course ... there is reputation - 'Trol's a 'Trol.
Nissan: Better body styling. Better interior Better ground clearance comes standard with navigation system. And cheaper than that snow white on wheels called toyota. Give me the Nissan Anyday.
have one champ so disappointing is the NISSAN only in one area, read my post above Fuel bill thru the roof, had to sell, petrol versus Diesel? NISSAN need a Diesel.
Toyota Is known for their reliability.. in my home town.. I see only new patrols.. But land cruiser.. I see all new and old ones equally.. cause the are long lasting
I really wish we got the basic, de-contented version of both here in the US. That being said, I'm looking fwd to the launch of the Patrol (Armada) here later his year. My next ride, Going to trade my Honda Pilot 4wd (also know as MR-V) for the Armada.
Both amazing vehicles....give them the same operating conditions, same maintenance schedules, for 30 years and 500,000kms, I wonder which one will stand the test of time? My $ is on the LC.
After watching this video I went online to compare prices of entry level petrol V8's in both these vehicles, it seems that the Patrol was around $13k cheaper than the LC, 91k compared to 68-69k, plenty of extra $$ to spends on mods for that sort of coin.
The LC 200 and Y62 Patrol are both great. The thing is, TODAY the base model patrol goes for 79k AU$, while the LC base model goes for about 85k AU$. But that's only comparing base models, because if we were to compare the base Patrol with the Land Cruiser trim that is most similar to it (VX), in terms of features and materials, we would be looking at a 102k AU$ Land Cruiser. 2 very similar cars but a 20k price difference.
These famous "hardcore"offroaders should have front and rear diff locker like standard feature like Mercedes G vagon.Or at least like option.I know there is after market solution like ARB but factory solution would be nicer.Also because these vehicles are so long especially Patrol and parking is not easy they should offer rear wheel stering like audi q7 like option.Most peoples would very appreciate this in such large vehicles
+Joe Deionno For me, it would've been more interesting and more fair had they used the Land Cruiser with the same price as the Patrol. To see how much more you get for AUD 96K from a Land Cruiser compared to AUD 96K Patrol's base model.
Joe Deionno It is relevant, cause they also compared the quality of the interior and exterior. Regarding off road capability, in this test, the Patrol needed to hold back not to use its off road mode. A 96K Land Cruiser would probably have those off road mode, so both vehicles can be tested to their best ability without holding back. Putting a same priced vehicle to the test, will give a better perspective on which car is the better bang for the buck in terms of its quality of looks and performance.
There is no such thing. The base Patrol is sub-$70k, the cheapest LandCruiser is the one tested at $76,500. They both represent the base models of the respective ranges.
The Patrol is without a doubt the far better vehicle for a better price. Toyota buyers are to loyal and stubborn (ignorant), but them paying stupid amounts for substandard things thankfully doesn't effect me.
Fadic 4 thousands more is just not enough. for the same spec, expect to pay at least 40k more. You fanboys need to he realistic. A simple "Thousands" will get u nowhere.
well these guys are wrong in this vid anyway, Patrols have always been better than any cruiser. Its got the genius world records for the only vehicle to climb the sand dunes. This new one has the fastest 100m climb on the sand dunes aswell. Patrol wins so I dono why these guys say the patrol finally has a worthy recovery vehicle.... The only thing i don't like about the new Patrol is the fact that we don't have the solid axle on coils anymore :( which means less travel on the suspension. But then again its alot faster so they must put independent suspension in to be safer on the open road and high speeds. Only thing good about Toyota is a Supra, that's it!
hahahaha what ever blows your hair back sweety :) Also i agree with what you said "Almost Unbreakable" because the patrol is UNBREAKABLE not just almost, but completely unbreakable. You can with a Nissan.
That Landcruiser looks quite cool in United Nations spec, but it's far too barren compared to what you can get with the Patrol. The rear lights are different on the Patrols we get here in the UAE by the way, much more modern design.
People rarely buy these 200 GX Cruisers for personal use. The reason Toyota sells this spec is because they make a shit ton of money from Mining and Engineering companies that want a dependable workhorse. Not to mention the Riot Squad here in Australia, they love the 200 GX.
The patrol was made for the Arab market but Aussies screamed for it and got it but how useful is a v8 of that size and running on petrol with the cost of it here in Oz.The land cruiser in this comparison is meant to be "bare bones no frills".these guys don't seem to be reporting on this fact earlier in this comparison.the cruiser is so much better for what they are showing in this clip
Well, There are five Models in Toyota Land cruiser and this model is the most Basic one known and called as (G Standard). In other models ( GX, GX.R, VX, VX.R) it comes with rear ac, rear/front parking camera, steering wheel controls, cruise control, fridge, infotainment system, third seat row, keyless start. ETC!
True we have these land cruisers for outreach activities in inaccessible areas and UN and all other depts including WHO prefer LC because of their reliability and durability.
I've wanted a LandCruiser for a long time but every time I look at them my head says No. The new ones are too much money - even the new ones are old hat interiors, like things were 7-10 years ago. Not acceptable for the price asked. Then I looked at older ones and the price asked is too much. 10 year old, 200 000km for 30 000€. They last a long time but they have their issues - diesel especially. Fuel economy and performance are terrible. Off road great of course. So I'll just have to decline. Unless a bargain used should ever pass me by..
We went with the entry level models in both ranges. For Toyota that's the diesel GX. The petrol GXL is almost $12,000 more than the entry level Patrol.
There’s a cheaper version of the Patrol with a 4.0L V6 engine, cloth seats, and no infotainment screen, just a tiny monochrome screen like on the Cruiser. In Australia, the “cheapest” version of the Patrol is actually mid-range.
absolutely fair review tbh i have same complain with toyota! cost too much with total shit interior. for anything reasonable u ll have to pay more then 100k but for that money i would rather buy Range Rover then this tank! huge respect for toyota capabilities but not impressed with luxury! but also Nissan is ugly. :/
Ganda, Try to mod a Range Rover, Youve never had one have you' Complete waste of off road time, There are only two. Patrols and Landcruisers The others you normallysee on trucks heading home
I don't like the petrol patrols, the 4.2L diesels 6 cylinder where the most bulletproof motors. The 100 & 80 series landcruiser a had them and started in 1990, but the patrols had them first in 1988, Go Nissan!
This patrol is an earlier verion and also the base model... the 2015 16 & 17 have different head & tail lamps. Whereas the cruiser is a 2017 base model0
Although Patrol is cheaper and have much more options than base model LC but they struggled to sell in New Zealand, big heavy petrol powered 4wds - no thanks. This is also why Lexus introduced 450d model to cope with the market.
I bought a 2008 3.0 Patrol ute in 2015 with only 112k on the clock for $23k. It's now at just over 150k on the clock and I've spent over 10k getting it repaired. 90% engine issues and 10% electrical issues. Iv'e just purchased a 2000 79 series LandCruiser ute to replace it. I will NEVER buy a Nissan again, and I will steer my friends and family away from Nissan. Absolute junk vehicles!
I get the LandCruiser is going for the rough and tough bush basher look, but I feel like that for $70,000 you should get a little bit more for your money.
That cruiser is used in reserve areas like Northern Kenya where you don't see tarmac for over 800km, so not having easily destroyed expensive leather but having easily cleaned seats is the best option, steel rims are easily and cheaply straightened in case of damage, and best of all, it can be done in the bush, electronics and sensors hate fine dust, that's why that landcruiser has to be so basic.
Better comparison would be to compare petrol against petrol because this should be the real decision choice. The diesel and dpf has a whole basket of baggage...
Understandably you guys compared the two models that are closest in price but if you were looking for the closest version of the two cars to compare a GXL would’ve been much better. The price difference between the two is obvious but I would certainly put the land cruiser in a different class for quality in regards to the driveline and even the rest of the car. The suspension in particular would be far superior over the patrol when doing some real 4wdriving while the patrol would be better on road
FYI, a lot of those blanks in a Nissan are just decorative and there for symmetry's sake. All Nissans, Quest, Murano, Patrol/Armada, , Maxima, etc have that set of 8-10 "switches" to the bottom left of the wheel, and even on the top spec LE/Platinum model with all of the options and accessories checked, only 4-6 of them are actual switches. On their smaller cars with center console storage trays around the shifter, there are also unfillable blanks where the popout cupholders would be on a Quest or Armada, also for the sake of aesthetics and symmetry. So, why couldn't they have done one row of 4 or 2 rows of 3, instead of 2 rows of 4 or 5, nearly half of which are always blanks? I don't know why, I guess the technology team and the interior design team must have been unwilling to compromise on their respective aesthetic choices. I personally like it though, quirks like that give a car personality without harming usability, and you don't get that feeling that a human actually designed everything to their own aesthetic preferences on a Toyota or Honda. I for one am glad that a bit of French strangeness has started rubbing off on Renault-owned Nissan, but notorious French build quality has not.
It is. It's just the Entry Level LC200. They simply selected the Entry Level from both models to make the comparison fair. Had they gone for top level Sahara, it would've had all the goodies that you find in Patrol.
Am I really untrained when I can confidently say these things shit diesel injection pumps as a daily occurrence blow up engines towing anything over 2 metric tonnes, Interior is physically smaller than the toyotas and the engine choice for the nissan is woeful you have the choice of a horribly designed Jap v8 a shitty little 4 cylendar with no turbo and a small 6
Toyota LC is a rip off just for its name. Definitely PAtrol is more promising and more luxurious for the money you pay. Lets face it who needs a snorkel really ? If you are someone who is going to do such a serious offroad stuff then go for PAtrol Y61 3 litre turbo diesel for half the Price of a LC. It can do as much as LC and yeah still got 7 seats. A very good unbiased review btw !!
Would have been interesting to know real world fuel consumption of these vehicles and in particular that patrol, as 14.5L/100km's as a combined figure will likely rise to more like 20L per 100km's around town. Unless you truly need that level of off road ability, a BMW X5, Mercedes GLE or Audi Q7 is going to be a lot nicer to drive and live with on a day to day basis......but that's just my 2 cents. Thanks for the review :) P.S. I think Toyota is really taking the piss charging that much money for a vehicle that has less equipment than a 20 grand hatchback!
I'll probably get the Nissan if I were choosing between these two. I think the Land Cruiser is um, shall I say, played out? The Patrol is like the 'other' Land Cruiser from another company. It's way cheaper too, about $20K cheaper in my part of the woods. All that can be considered free fuel versus if you bought the LC.
Chooses the two lowest, most stripped out grades available, complains about everything they don't have.
I've never seen a lowest spec, most basic land cruiser
+VintageRKO exactly, all i ever see is SAHARA. which is not base model.
i have an 80 series dx and it came with more extras than this one
Australian cars are so strange.
+Ap Gp ^
GX's are the fleet pov pack units. They work on mine sites etc. The Patrol doesn't offer a cheap and nasty version. A Sahara is north of $120K so that's $50K of fuel and accessories you can spend on the Patrol!
it's so refreshing to see a land cruiser without all those luxury bits
in a weird way lol
U are man
JJD price tag is still around the luxurious bits
its amazing how the land cruiser can have a luxurious version and a very cheap version its so satisfying
It should be that way. A proper Land Cruiser doesn't need all the luxury. It is a very good off road vehicle, that can withstand whatever you throw at it.
for me both are legends and got equal respect but I would like to go for the Land Cruiser any day.
Good to see two real offroaders that can still bring a smile to your face on road as well
The current Patrol looks a lot better than the one reviewed here. There was a change to the front bumper, headlights and taillights back in 2014. I am not surprised the changes were not released in Australia because there has been low demand there on this vehicle due to the fact that Nissan does not built Y62s with diesel engines.
That being said I am a Y62 2015 Patrol owner and I absolutely love the car. Entry level here however is not as expensive as that one but is pretty much devoid of any features.
Wait. That Patrol is the outdated one. The Patrol has gone a major facelift in 2014 and it looks much better than that.
-Abu Dhabi, Patrols and LCs roll a lot here and Patrol is the undisputed king in both driving and luxury.
…am in the UAE right now, and you said it mate 🍻
Have to laugh at the comments on diesels being a must off road or for touring, do some research people, modern diesels are more complicated and less reliable than modern petrols.
There's also plenty of y62s being used to travel every corner of the country with no problems at all.
it's also fantastic in real off road conditions, take the word of people that actually use them in these conditions and have done for years now.
+Trav Giles AGreed mate, lot of people just bull shit around stating LC got Diesel. Does it really matter ? A Patrol Y61 3 Litre Diesel is a better buy than LC for half its price.
I can’t believe no one ever comment how silly this is.
I know it is 7 years later but let’s be honest if you go big hills, tight corners, big mid holes, shit spots USUALLY a good diesel works without effort
Let’s just all love good times and a car has a choice and print point and that’s the main reason
I know it's not the same, but I own the luxury versions of both in the U.S. I have an Infiniti QX56 and a Land Cruiser 200. I got both used since I have 5 kids and my wife and I decided against a minivan. I take both off road about 5 times a month. We love to go on road trips and short weekends in north California, Oregon, and Washington. So, I had gotten the LC 1 year before the QX, and I thought it was the greatest off road/expedition vehicle ever... Until the QX came into my life! The independent suspension on all 4 corners is really good OFF ROAD! Believe me guys, there is a reason most new military off road vehicles are priding themselves on off independent suspension... It's good, really good. The other plus is that the QX is wider by about 3 inches which really feels nice inside. It's also longer which is perfect when you end up having to sleep inside the vehicle with the seats folded on a foam pad because of a bad thunderstorm and winds that could turn a tent into a parachute! The LC wouldn't have fit me in the back unless I fold over! Here in the U.S. we don't get a diesel SUV, so we don't get an advantage of one over the other. I think both vehicles are great, and would be very happy with either with a little more happiness with the QX which is a Patrol without the blanked out switches! BTW those switches that are blanked are all full in the Infiniti QX, they are for heated/cooled seats, heated steering wheel...
That is not a fair comparison. You said luxury version, the luxury version of LC200 and counterpart of Infiniti QX56 is the LEXUS LX570. By the way we have the 2016 LC200 and I have no complaints. Sure the luxurious and more expensive brands of Toyota (LEXUS) and Nissan (Infiniti) should be better!
bluesky hi from the middle east you are thr only smart american with cars i have seen so far
The Lexus is practically impossible to drive offroad with those silly bumpers - it's like a glorified mini van
After owning Patrol TiL for two years, I'll finally take it offroad after watching this video.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Fawad Bilgrami - hope you gave your ‘Trol a chance to roar as it was meant to 😄
go the patrols. hopefully more people open their eyes before lining up at toyota like sheep. I'll be getting a y62 for sure
Don't forget to purchase shares in a fuel company as well.
My Best Friend Nissan Patrol
Nah in dubai their enemies im patrol i love it
Nice video CarAdvise...bt i wanted to knw frm u guys that which is a better SUV to buy toyota land cruiser or nissan patrol i mean which SUV is value for money...better ride quality, better offroad capability...pls answer this I really want to know...
With the price difference you can get patrol, spend 10k on upgrades and make it even better and customised, and have plenty left for years of rego, petrol and insurance
Toyota fans failed to realise Nissan Patrol in this video is also a low range model as is the Toyota Land Cruiser. Both high range spec models are excellent reliable engine but honestly the Patrol is far superior in its engine, technology, speed and luxury. It rips the Land Cruiser. In Dubai the rich drive and prefer the Patrol. Most people in the West can't afford to run both these cars as they suck fuel due to their big engines. Most go for SUVs under 3litre engine sizes.
$76k for 5 cloth seats? hahahaha Toyota owners will pay anything.
+Jimbob Toyota take advantage of the vehicle's reputation, R&D/Material costs don't justify a 63k base model price for a two door trayless ute.
They're a vehicle targeted to a market that has barely been touched, they can charge whatever they want.
+Shaanan Birleson I'm certainly not, I understand the true value of what an item is worth
and with the Land Cruiser you've always had a relatively shitty
price/features/performance ratio.
Look at the new Ford Ranger WildTrak, wonderfully built vehicle with a comprehensive technology package and it costs $3K more than a NEW BASE MODEL TWO DOOR LAND CRUISER that's reminiscent of the 80's..
+Shaanan Birleson I hope you're joking.. It's medium-sized, the engine has 3 cylinders less, a 1.3L capacity difference than the 4.5L TD and makes MORE TORQUE than your beloved baseline Landcruiser and is better on fuel..
Hills? I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not.. Sand? Well.. yeah with the tyres it comes with but it isn't any less capable if both drivers have the same skill levels.
+Shaanan Birleson Right, well it isn't unexpected the stock tyre dimensions are kinda narrow. I've seen how easy they sink in. With the savings remaining from not buying a land cruiser 200 you could just upgrade tyres etc.. Ranger Wildtrak is like.. 62,000 brand new while a new baseline Land cruiser GX is like 84,000 which is the one on this video.
If you compare specifically what you get for your money regarding the LC/Rangers with at least 5 seats, the wildtrak offers so much more for the money. For $20,000 less you sacrifice a tiny bit of offroad-worthiness but end up with a much nicer vehicle to be in.
Will you REALLY be better off? Justify your comments lol
And yes I've seen the specs.. Higher fuel consumption, lower torque, doesn't come with a tray and only the essentials FOR 74K.
I'm finding it hard to communicate to you that for thousands less, the ranger comes with EVERYTHING. If you want a better comparison, the baseline LC four-door ute is 74K right? Well the baseline four-door ranger is 42k. It makes no economical sense.
Patrol's been a legend always ! Does stuff without publicity and the actions speak louder !
Hey guys!! I've just read through the comment section and I have to say it's pretty awful, I am a LandCruiser fan and the car is overpriced but those of you with any amount of schooling in economics under the belt will know the price is determined by the market mechanism NOT Toyota trying to milk old ladies! So as soon as they become less popular the price will fall. Both of these are great cars and I have no problem with the Patrol winning in the video, we are in a time in history where comfort and buttons mean a lot, but when it comes to handing over the cash I will choose the Cruiser and I have no problem if someone else chooses the Patrol, it is your choice. Lets not fight about these things and rather enjoy them together.
Well said and i have the Patrol done 120000 so far and love they are both awesome vehicles cheers.
I was set on a VX 200 series, drove back to back and there is simply no comparison. People need to wake up to the Toyota tax which is being placed on everyone. The V8 in the Patrol eats the Toyota alive. I have towed with both and with a 1.5T camper, the Patrol is only marginally more thirsty. Managed to pick up a MY15 series 2 Y62 Ti for 64K, brand spanka, bargain. The 200 Series is feeling very outdated and the seven seat configuration set up is shit house. For all those who have not driven one, Patrol that is, just test it and you will see.
CarAdvice, it would be good to see a proper off road test and tow test and perhaps compare say comparative features VS price as i think the VX in a cruiser would be about 96K which really throws sand in Tojos face.
WogsRus1 what was your average fuel consumption in patrol ? How does it compare to the cruiser?
Are comparing price or the actual vehicle, the comparo was bullshit
Wogs Put on some real weight, a 6 cylinder commodore will pull 1.5Tonne. Try 3.5 Tonne or more, it's a different world that would make a Y62 scream That why I didn''t buy a Nissan. If it had a Cummins 5 or 6 litre, I would of bought the Nissan
Then that would be been a real world comparison, not the bullshit from Not so Good Car Advice
The Nissan has really bad fuel consumption and a small, single tank. That aside, I really have to agree with these chaps. It surprisingly is pretty good value for money in that segment and is incredibly capable off road. Had an opportunity to bash one around in my Home Country of Kenya (where roads are optional 😁) and it genuinely blew my mind. My only concern was "Range anxiety". You'd have to strap on some Jerricans for a long lazy weekend cruise to the middle of nowhere.
Mine has a 150L sub tank so 300L of fuel on board. Towing 2.5T it gets over 1000km per tank at 110km/h. Not towing, it's heading towards 1500km. Same or better range than a Cruiser........
lol, that's also carrying twice the amount of fuel than the LC200. NOT same or better range than LC200.
Did a trip with a modified 200 series. 10,000km. Patrol worked out $200 cheaper in the end. And we were both having to fill up at the same times, so same ranges.
two are king of offroad but since 98 the toyota wins until 2010 when nissan built the hero ( y62 ) nissan patrol
ph.d mechanical engineering
Things would be great if Nissan built the Patrol in a diesel version. The land cruiser has no competition here in Australia, and Toyota know it. So they charge a lot more than it's really worth. But as said in the review Nissan's main target with the Patrol is the oil rich arab countries where petrol is ridiculously cheap.
Adam Moore I’m pretty sure they have built a patrol with a diesel spec. At least here we have one
Im a cruiser person, but Nissan really need that Cummins diesel, It must be so embarrasing for Nissan Australia, If I could of got a 4 or 5 litre cummins, I definately would of considered the Nissan, I pull a 3.5 tonne Van and no bullshit either that or the Toyota 4.5DTT would pull it and stop it safely
You pair are lame AF. When did fuel economy owning diesels & being scrooge tight old farts become the Aussie way? besides real world testing has proved touring & towing the y62 is very close to the 1VD-DUD & yet overall $27000 cheaper.
Adam Moore - petrol’s nearly the same price in the UAE & Oz, dummy - When it comes to ownership costs, one’d have to run that V8 ‘Trol tens of thousands of kilometres before it even cost as much as that ‘Cruiser 😄 plus, diesel f***s up during snowstorm winters in the Victorian alps or the Snowy mountains - petrol doesn’t. I’m from NSW, however I’ll say what they say in the UAE - where V8 ‘Trols are everywhere - “...sure - take your Landcruisers, but have one Patrol to stay safe!”
great review!
Thanks :-)
Good comparison based on the price range / model level.
Sure ... in Oz and NZ, diesels are more easily fuelled and the range helps - there aren't just as many petrol stations in our deserts as there are in the UAE or Russia.
If people wanted diesel off roaders, then the cheaper option would be the Y61 'Trol. It runs a bullet proof diesel that could tow as much as bigger diesels from other car makers.
In the price range at which this comparison video was based on, the Y62 'Trol wins hands down.
Most drivers rarely venture into the outback where diesel is an advantage. A petrol engine is quieter, smoother and at 5.7L in V8 form, is quite the combination.
Remember that this is a Nissan engine - back in the 90s, Nissan kept winning the V8 Supercars with a front-wheel-driven car.
Nissan makes awesome engines.
Obviously Nissan's price slashing approach makes the Y62 'Trol financially viable too.
Then of course ... there is reputation - 'Trol's a 'Trol.
refreshing to hear people using the metric system
76K dollars yet the interior looks like it's from a 20k car wtf?
It's not all bout the interior it's also about the handling
This is the heavy duty version, I don't know why they used it. One spec up in the range has leather, wood, alloys, Chrome everywhere, 9" screen, etc
Large SUV that doesn't have any sort of rear aircon vents?
Awesome video as usual!
Thanks :-)
I'm a toyota L/C fan but I think the patrol is great too. It's subjective at this point...either way you're getting a great SUV.
A very nice review. Covered the capability to help me decide.
2019 cars reviewed 4 years ago while we are still in 2020 ????
these cruisers are meant for harsh conditions ,,,,UN missions etc
Even the Nissan petrol.
You mean, just like the Patrol?
@@johankriek1306 never saw them on a mission
@@Truck12300 You should watch some local news, or get out of the house more often...
@@hassaanzahoor4650 No
lol there is also a normal LC V8 version with leather and shit. This is offroad edition. I would buy LC for sure. Maybe one day..
That costs about 120 grand. About 50 grand more than the ti.
Nissan: Better body styling.
Better interior
Better ground clearance
comes standard with navigation system.
And cheaper than that snow white on wheels called toyota.
Give me the Nissan Anyday.
nissan is best
no way
have one champ so disappointing is the NISSAN only in one area, read my post above Fuel bill thru the roof, had to sell, petrol versus Diesel? NISSAN need a Diesel.
C.G.O Recordz and more durable engine and body
Toyota Is known for their reliability.. in my home town.. I see only new patrols.. But land cruiser.. I see all new and old ones equally.. cause the are long lasting
I really wish we got the basic, de-contented version of both here in the US. That being said, I'm looking fwd to the launch of the Patrol (Armada) here later his year. My next ride, Going to trade my Honda Pilot 4wd (also know as MR-V) for the Armada.
Both amazing vehicles....give them the same operating conditions, same maintenance schedules, for 30 years and 500,000kms, I wonder which one will stand the test of time? My $ is on the LC.
After watching this video I went online to compare prices of entry level petrol V8's in both these vehicles, it seems that the Patrol was around $13k cheaper than the LC, 91k compared to 68-69k, plenty of extra $$ to spends on mods for that sort of coin.
The LC 200 and Y62 Patrol are both great. The thing is, TODAY the base model patrol goes for 79k AU$, while the LC base model goes for about 85k AU$. But that's only comparing base models, because if we were to compare the base Patrol with the Land Cruiser trim that is most similar to it (VX), in terms of features and materials, we would be looking at a 102k AU$ Land Cruiser. 2 very similar cars but a 20k price difference.
These famous "hardcore"offroaders should have front and rear diff locker like standard feature like Mercedes G vagon.Or at least like option.I know there is after market solution like ARB but factory solution would be nicer.Also because these vehicles are so long especially Patrol and parking is not easy they should offer rear wheel stering like audi q7 like option.Most peoples would very appreciate this in such large vehicles
Imagine using the V8 petrol engine in that Nissan patrol in the GT-R
No
It’s the same engine they used in the V8 Supercars Nissan entry.
It would be slower
The should have used the landcruiser VX so it's more of a fair test
They were comparing base models though
Fair comparison in my books
+Joe Deionno For me, it would've been more interesting and more fair had they used the Land Cruiser with the same price as the Patrol. To see how much more you get for AUD 96K from a Land Cruiser compared to AUD 96K Patrol's base model.
+aabidam
Price really is irrelevant
They were ideally testing the off-road capability of both models not what's on the interior
Joe Deionno It is relevant, cause they also compared the quality of the interior and exterior. Regarding off road capability, in this test, the Patrol needed to hold back not to use its off road mode. A 96K Land Cruiser would probably have those off road mode, so both vehicles can be tested to their best ability without holding back. Putting a same priced vehicle to the test, will give a better perspective on which car is the better bang for the buck in terms of its quality of looks and performance.
There is no such thing. The base Patrol is sub-$70k, the cheapest LandCruiser is the one tested at $76,500. They both represent the base models of the respective ranges.
The Patrol is without a doubt the far better vehicle for a better price. Toyota buyers are to loyal and stubborn (ignorant), but them paying stupid amounts for substandard things thankfully doesn't effect me.
Car Nut id pay thousands more for a more optioned out Toyota than Nissan. you're paying for a better quality product.
Fadic 4 thousands more is just not enough. for the same spec, expect to pay at least 40k more. You fanboys need to he realistic. A simple "Thousands" will get u nowhere.
well these guys are wrong in this vid anyway, Patrols have always been better than any cruiser. Its got the genius world records for the only vehicle to climb the sand dunes. This new one has the fastest 100m climb on the sand dunes aswell. Patrol wins so I dono why these guys say the patrol finally has a worthy recovery vehicle.... The only thing i don't like about the new Patrol is the fact that we don't have the solid axle on coils anymore :( which means less travel on the suspension. But then again its alot faster so they must put independent suspension in to be safer on the open road and high speeds. Only thing good about Toyota is a Supra, that's it!
Louis shut the fuck up toyota is known for their almost unbreakable car toyota land cruiser is way better
hahahaha what ever blows your hair back sweety :) Also i agree with what you said "Almost Unbreakable" because the patrol is UNBREAKABLE not just almost, but completely unbreakable. You can with a Nissan.
That Landcruiser looks quite cool in United Nations spec, but it's far too barren compared to what you can get with the Patrol.
The rear lights are different on the Patrols we get here in the UAE by the way, much more modern design.
2016 or 2019 ?
People rarely buy these 200 GX Cruisers for personal use. The reason Toyota sells this spec is because they make a shit ton of money from Mining and Engineering companies that want a dependable workhorse. Not to mention the Riot Squad here in Australia, they love the 200 GX.
Not sure how Nissan is in Austrailia but here the reliability of them is not close to Toyota. I will take a Landcruiser any day
The patrol was made for the Arab market but Aussies screamed for it and got it but how useful is a v8 of that size and running on petrol with the cost of it here in Oz.The land cruiser in this comparison is meant to be "bare bones no frills".these guys don't seem to be reporting on this fact earlier in this comparison.the cruiser is so much better for what they are showing in this clip
Well, There are five Models in Toyota Land cruiser and this model is the most Basic one known and called as (G Standard). In other models ( GX, GX.R, VX, VX.R) it comes with rear ac, rear/front parking camera, steering wheel controls, cruise control, fridge, infotainment system, third seat row, keyless start. ETC!
These People , Land cruisers and Patrols are kings Over expeditions
Wow that Landy is too much UN Spec , the Patrol while not pleasing to look definitely trumps it with that V8.
+joako2706 and it feels much more comfy inside.
True we have these land cruisers for outreach activities in inaccessible areas and UN and all other depts including WHO prefer LC because of their reliability and durability.
great review! its easy to undersand for people like me who dont really speak english
A video posted 3 years ago with models released in 2019? Time machine?
don’t forget this is a australian channel
They changed the titles.
Nothing will ever come near the top of the range Toyota Land Cruiser vx 200
including the price tag
patrol any day!!!
“Cooled glove box”
*opens centre console*
Both of them are capable.
he's like a scruffier looking Seth McFarlane
I've wanted a LandCruiser for a long time but every time I look at them my head says No.
The new ones are too much money - even the new ones are old hat interiors, like things were 7-10 years ago. Not acceptable for the price asked.
Then I looked at older ones and the price asked is too much. 10 year old, 200 000km for 30 000€.
They last a long time but they have their issues - diesel especially. Fuel economy and performance are terrible. Off road great of course.
So I'll just have to decline. Unless a bargain used should ever pass me by..
You only live once
hey guys. why didn't you compare the patrol with 4.6 petrol 200 series?
We went with the entry level models in both ranges. For Toyota that's the diesel GX. The petrol GXL is almost $12,000 more than the entry level Patrol.
There’s a cheaper version of the Patrol with a 4.0L V6 engine, cloth seats, and no infotainment screen, just a tiny monochrome screen like on the Cruiser. In Australia, the “cheapest” version of the Patrol is actually mid-range.
Sergiu Puscasu - I think that’s the Y61 still sold in Russia & the Middle East …it’s a mad & mean machine, mate 🍻
absolutely fair review tbh i have same complain with toyota! cost too much with total shit interior. for anything reasonable u ll have to pay more then 100k but for that money i would rather buy Range Rover then this tank! huge respect for toyota capabilities but not impressed with luxury! but also Nissan is ugly. :/
Ganda, Try to mod a Range Rover, Youve never had one have you' Complete waste of off road time, There are only two. Patrols and Landcruisers
The others you normallysee on trucks heading home
I don't like the petrol patrols, the 4.2L diesels 6 cylinder where the most bulletproof motors. The 100 & 80 series landcruiser a had them and started in 1990, but the patrols had them first in 1988, Go Nissan!
This patrol is an earlier verion and also the base model... the 2015 16 & 17 have different head & tail lamps. Whereas the cruiser is a 2017 base model0
In the title it says that the vehicles r 2019 models which they aren’t and even the vdo was released in 2016…
Nice review. The guy wearing black shirt looks a lot like Seth Macfarlene....
+Derrick Harvey Ha ha. You're not the first to mention it ;-)
Although Patrol is cheaper and have much more options than base model LC but they struggled to sell in New Zealand, big heavy petrol powered 4wds - no thanks. This is also why Lexus introduced 450d model to cope with the market.
I bought a 2008 3.0 Patrol ute in 2015 with only 112k on the clock for $23k. It's now at just over 150k on the clock and I've spent over 10k getting it repaired. 90% engine issues and 10% electrical issues.
Iv'e just purchased a 2000 79 series LandCruiser ute to replace it.
I will NEVER buy a Nissan again, and I will steer my friends and family away from Nissan. Absolute junk vehicles!
Mate couldn't agree more!
Nissan Patrol worth every penny!
I get the LandCruiser is going for the rough and tough bush basher look, but I feel like that for $70,000 you should get a little bit more for your money.
That cruiser is used in reserve areas like Northern Kenya where you don't see tarmac for over 800km, so not having easily destroyed expensive leather but having easily cleaned seats is the best option, steel rims are easily and cheaply straightened in case of damage, and best of all, it can be done in the bush, electronics and sensors hate fine dust, that's why that landcruiser has to be so basic.
Haha and the cruiser air filter likes to let dust past at every opportunity lol
Thorough review!
This being an Entry level base model Nissan Patrol, but they need a Face-lift for sure!
Better comparison would be to compare petrol against petrol because this should be the real decision choice. The diesel and dpf has a whole basket of baggage...
Wow the difference between the two is night and day, especially interior wise. What was toyota thinking?
Understandably you guys compared the two models that are closest in price but if you were looking for the closest version of the two cars to compare a GXL would’ve been much better. The price difference between the two is obvious but I would certainly put the land cruiser in a different class for quality in regards to the driveline and even the rest of the car. The suspension in particular would be far superior over the patrol when doing some real 4wdriving while the patrol would be better on road
STL is entry level right ?
+saiju chithambaran Ti is entry level.
NISSAN IS BETTER
is this the high end Lc200? suppose to be miles further than the patrol.
+Kirby Young - Nope. Base level Landcrusier.
Which country is this LC model sold in?
Ankur Sharma - Australia mate, also known as Shitsville 😂
What about the new Pajero sport (montero) you have to do a review of it and if it's comfortable or not plz
FYI, a lot of those blanks in a Nissan are just decorative and there for symmetry's sake. All Nissans, Quest, Murano, Patrol/Armada, , Maxima, etc have that set of 8-10 "switches" to the bottom left of the wheel, and even on the top spec LE/Platinum model with all of the options and accessories checked, only 4-6 of them are actual switches. On their smaller cars with center console storage trays around the shifter, there are also unfillable blanks where the popout cupholders would be on a Quest or Armada, also for the sake of aesthetics and symmetry. So, why couldn't they have done one row of 4 or 2 rows of 3, instead of 2 rows of 4 or 5, nearly half of which are always blanks? I don't know why, I guess the technology team and the interior design team must have been unwilling to compromise on their respective aesthetic choices. I personally like it though, quirks like that give a car personality without harming usability, and you don't get that feeling that a human actually designed everything to their own aesthetic preferences on a Toyota or Honda. I for one am glad that a bit of French strangeness has started rubbing off on Renault-owned Nissan, but notorious French build quality has not.
Wait, this video was posted in 2016 and they have the 2019 model?! 🤔
I would also love to see a 200 get 9.5l to 100km.
patrol all day long.
Pootrol
+Kyle 22 ohhk
no way
nissan patrol is a hand grenade, you never know when it will blow up
dji zzah your face
Wonder if the Patrol engine gets dusted through the air filter? How much does it cost to replace a starter motor in the patrol?
What's that got to do with it.
George Simmons has lots to do with total cost of ownership. Ever seen a repair bill for a replacement of a starter motor in the 200?
This is not the newest Land Cruiser right??
Sure is - 2016 model.
CarAdvice.com I am just asking coz it looks kinda cheap from the interior, and the back lights also looks little bit different.
It is. It's just the Entry Level LC200. They simply selected the Entry Level from both models to make the comparison fair. Had they gone for top level Sahara, it would've had all the goodies that you find in Patrol.
I think this cheapest model of landcruiser 200
Ali Ansari indeed.
How did you manage to post a 2019 comparison back in 2016? 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
They change the titles on all the videos.
lets to be honest, even SAHARA is kind of basic if you compare to SUV with similar price or even much lower
is the patrol an aramada in the US or is it a totally different car?
Similar
VpY22 Is literally same
Its a piece of shit thats what it is I used to work on these cars and their build quality is horrendous
your garage dosent know how to work on them.....probably u putin wrong spare parts.....lol.... get some training pal.
Am I really untrained when I can confidently say these things shit diesel injection pumps as a daily occurrence blow up engines towing anything over 2 metric tonnes, Interior is physically smaller than the toyotas and the engine choice for the nissan is woeful you have the choice of a horribly designed Jap v8 a shitty little 4 cylendar with no turbo and a small 6
Petrol with no snorkel?? So water above the hubs isn’t an option in the patrol? Also the fuel consumption!!
Toyota LC is a rip off just for its name. Definitely PAtrol is more promising and more luxurious for the money you pay. Lets face it who needs a snorkel really ? If you are someone who is going to do such a serious offroad stuff then go for PAtrol Y61 3 litre turbo diesel for half the Price of a LC. It can do as much as LC and yeah still got 7 seats.
A very good unbiased review btw !!
First time ever off road these two are evaluating the undisputed kings of the off road 🤦♂️
"2019 Toyota LandCruiser 200 GX v 2019 Nissan Patrol Ti Comparison Review" - Published in 2016. Right...
Maybe They have changed the tittle for stay relevant.
Would have been interesting to know real world fuel consumption of these vehicles and in particular that patrol, as 14.5L/100km's as a combined figure will likely rise to more like 20L per 100km's around town.
Unless you truly need that level of off road ability, a BMW X5, Mercedes GLE or Audi Q7 is going to be a lot nicer to drive and live with on a day to day basis......but that's just my 2 cents.
Thanks for the review :)
P.S. I think Toyota is really taking the piss charging that much money for a vehicle that has less equipment than a 20 grand hatchback!
so these 2019 models came Feb 19, 2016???
you'd be silly to buy any of the cruiser range against the patrol right now
I'll probably get the Nissan if I were choosing between these two. I think the Land Cruiser is um, shall I say, played out? The Patrol is like the 'other' Land Cruiser from another company. It's way cheaper too, about $20K cheaper in my part of the woods. All that can be considered free fuel versus if you bought the LC.
patrol is better at dessert, LandCruiser is better at rocks and snow (Tested in person)
petrol looks better but performance land cruiser dose better than any suv
Jaison Pattuvelil wrong
Still don't understand why don't take the Renault V6 3.0 V9X for the Patrol
Iam a huge huge huge huge huge fan of nissan petrol and ford raptor and toyota tundra