I've had my Fizik adaptive for about 7 months. I did loads of races on it, and it was absolutely perfect. even did a 6 hour 100 mile effort with 12,000ft of climbing. Great job Fizik!
And here we are two years later and I just got one of these new in black for only US $140. It’s the softest saddle. I’ve had in many years and it’s kind of disconcerting at first after the firmness of the usual hard race saddle. Also I grip more on the pattern. I hadn’t realise how much I must slide around on my saddle, normally as I find harder to do so on this. Something to get used to.
My first thought - nightmare to clean, so I appreciate you debunking this right away. But yeah, the color would put me off as well. Would be so easy to add several color options as well.
I wouldn't spend more than £50 on a saddle. In fact what I do is buy saddles on ebay that people take off new bikes or saddles that they bought but didn't suit them and you can pick them up for buttons. My favourite saddle is the now out of production Fizik Pave which you can find secondhand on ebay and got one for £10, never been used, was lying around in someone's attic and this replaced the one I'd been using for years before the rail broke. I also picked up a Fizik Vitesse for £10 I use on another bike and again, I can do 100 mile runs on that saddle without a hint of soreness. So for £100 you could pick up several saddles, keep the one you like and re-sell the ones you don't. That's the way to go.
Love the tech, but likely to wait until the saddle can be ‘made to measure’ to my precise anatomy - as surely that’s where we’re heading with 3D printing..... Thanks for the review.
I suppose, if this alleviates the usual sore bottom issues a lot of riders experience, it would be worth the money. I have a bucket of saddles and I keep going back to my heavy Brooks.
I bought the cheaper version for 250 and it’s in black color which is a little heavier but feels very comfy. Not much weight difference I bought the 149mm large and it weighs 215 grams. Great saddle and the color is more appealing.
I had an R3 open didn’t have any issues with it I decided to upgrade to one of these it’s a comfortable seat but major issue with this seat is the fact it’s not smooth and due to the fact I ride a Cannondale Bad Boy 1 hybrid which doesn’t allow me to ride standing up so when climbing this seat rubs because if it’s course texture so probably gonna have to go back to my R3 not happy.
Cool tech. I actually like the ivory-ish colour. I'd really love to use this saddle assuming there's some airflow and therefore less sweat in your bib's padding. Price is a no go though.
How comfortable is this saddle without cycling shorts? I commute to work on a bike and don't wear any kind of padding. Seriously considering this saddle.
I am super interested in the technology, but I ride a single speed with steel seatpost. Would I have to get a carbon seatpost for this 3D print saddle to fit?
Been riding Brooks saddles for many years on all my bikes. Just tried the C-17 Cambium carved out saddle which is comfortable. I wonder about the resilience of the honeycomb structure over time. You're a light weight rider but under a heavier rider maybe that structure would start to deform reducing it's comfort and lifespan.
Yeah white isnt for me. I'm using a knock off selle italia full carbon saddle. Cost me around 30 AUD from China and weighs around 120 grams. I love it.
Yes they launched the Cambium many years ago which is lighter than the B17 I featured in this video, which is another step in the evolution of the saddle for sure
@@davidarthur As someone who is still searching for the perfect saddle, I’ve been interested in the Brooks Cambium range. Have you tried the C13, and if so, how does it compare to the traditional Brooks saddles in terms of comfort? Thanks and keep up the great content.
Interesting but I can't see them making much money even with that retail price. 3D printing still doesn't scale even the DLS process they are using which I've seen before. It's much faster than FDM hobby printers and also much faster than conventional SLS printers although it's a derivative.
Had to return this saddle and settled with the specialized power saddle. Had high hopes for this 3D printed saddle but it hurt my rear end like none other.
Cheap in terms of materials but it's time consuming. My current FLSUN Q5 takes about 12hrs to complete any decent sized high quality print. With multiple layers like this - probably 24 hrs and more. And that's not printer quality - with 3D print speeds you run into physical limitations rather quickly so even a 3000€ printer wouldn't be that much faster.
@@CaptainShiny5000 Thanks for the insight info. I don't know much about time. But I know they build houses with 3D printers that cost a lot less than a normall house would. There must be fast printers to do that job I presume.
@@YannickLB I'd say, with a really extremely rigid printer you might go up to 100 or maybe even 120mm/s print speed, but you'd have to have a perfectly dialed in machine or else that print might be lost like 4hrs in or so due to various possible failures. And you'll always get certain artifacts with increased printspeed which are unavoidable.
I've had my Fizik adaptive for about 7 months. I did loads of races on it, and it was absolutely perfect. even did a 6 hour 100 mile effort with 12,000ft of climbing. Great job Fizik!
There are already cheaper options available from fizik (different rail materials), and they come in a much less polarising black.
Using Specialized Power Mirror on my new road bike build. Great saddle after you forget how much you paid for it!
And here we are two years later and I just got one of these new in black for only US $140. It’s the softest saddle. I’ve had in many years and it’s kind of disconcerting at first after the firmness of the usual hard race saddle. Also I grip more on the pattern. I hadn’t realise how much I must slide around on my saddle, normally as I find harder to do so on this. Something to get used to.
My first thought - nightmare to clean, so I appreciate you debunking this right away. But yeah, the color would put me off as well. Would be so easy to add several color options as well.
I have had mine since shortly after it was released. It looks as new today as it did then with nothing more than the occasional rinse.
This will be a gamechanger in the triathlon world for quick drying after transition or urination.
Lol gross.
I wouldn't spend more than £50 on a saddle. In fact what I do is buy saddles on ebay that people take off new bikes or saddles that they bought but didn't suit them and you can pick them up for buttons. My favourite saddle is the now out of production Fizik Pave which you can find secondhand on ebay and got one for £10, never been used, was lying around in someone's attic and this replaced the one I'd been using for years before the rail broke. I also picked up a Fizik Vitesse for £10 I use on another bike and again, I can do 100 mile runs on that saddle without a hint of soreness. So for £100 you could pick up several saddles, keep the one you like and re-sell the ones you don't. That's the way to go.
Love the tech. Maybe the price will come down over the nxt year .. i use a ergon seat and love it..
Love the tech, but likely to wait until the saddle can be ‘made to measure’ to my precise anatomy - as surely that’s where we’re heading with 3D printing..... Thanks for the review.
Won’t be 300 bucks. Will be at least a few thousand when we have that tech.
Its 3 years later, and you can now order custom 3d printed saddles from Fizik
I'm using cheap full carbon Chinese saddle. It is very light and shape is ideal for me. But it's quite hard, so sometimes I have to use extra cushion.
I suppose, if this alleviates the usual sore bottom issues a lot of riders experience, it would be worth the money.
I have a bucket of saddles and I keep going back to my heavy Brooks.
The color and shape aren’t for me, but I’m sure more options are coming.
I ride a black Prologo Scratch M5 PAS carbon rail saddle . 141 grams .
I bought the cheaper version for 250 and it’s in black color which is a little heavier but feels very comfy. Not much weight difference I bought the 149mm large and it weighs 215 grams. Great saddle and the color is more appealing.
I had an R3 open didn’t have any issues with it I decided to upgrade to one of these it’s a comfortable seat but major issue with this seat is the fact it’s not smooth and due to the fact I ride a Cannondale Bad Boy 1 hybrid which doesn’t allow me to ride standing up so when climbing this seat rubs because if it’s course texture so probably gonna have to go back to my R3 not happy.
David, as I see it the comfort of the tailored zonal cushioning very much depends on the weight of the rider. What is your weight?
Cool tech. I actually like the ivory-ish colour. I'd really love to use this saddle assuming there's some airflow and therefore less sweat in your bib's padding. Price is a no go though.
how about a review of the American adjustable bisaddle?
How comfortable is this saddle without cycling shorts? I commute to work on a bike and don't wear any kind of padding. Seriously considering this saddle.
Purely on comfort and for a long ride which would you say is the most comfortable, Brooks or the 3-D printed one?
Great review!
I am super interested in the technology, but I ride a single speed with steel seatpost. Would I have to get a carbon seatpost for this 3D print saddle to fit?
Been riding Brooks saddles for many years on all my bikes. Just tried the C-17 Cambium carved out saddle which is comfortable. I wonder about the resilience of the honeycomb structure over time. You're a light weight rider but under a heavier rider maybe that structure would start to deform reducing it's comfort and lifespan.
It's a new technology and will require evaluation over time.
Looks like it would be a major dirt and dust collector.
Yeah white isnt for me. I'm using a knock off selle italia full carbon saddle. Cost me around 30 AUD from China and weighs around 120 grams. I love it.
Anyone noticed the fizik evo tends to be rough in texture and it rubs and kinda damage your bib shorts?
I've been using one for six months and no damage to my bib shorts yet. Have you experienced damaged shorts with your saddle?
Surely there must be a carbon and synthetic material ultralight brooks?
Yes they launched the Cambium many years ago which is lighter than the B17 I featured in this video, which is another step in the evolution of the saddle for sure
@@davidarthur As someone who is still searching for the perfect saddle, I’ve been interested in the Brooks Cambium range. Have you tried the C13, and if so, how does it compare to the traditional Brooks saddles in terms of comfort? Thanks and keep up the great content.
i wonder how long that honeycomb will last before it will flatten out
I don't know how many miles but over 1000. It is in like new condition.
I'm using a power geometric saddle from specialized and it's very comfortable for me.
You look like you need a post lockdown haircut too David! 😉
Haha you’re not wrong there!
Interesting but I can't see them making much money even with that retail price. 3D printing still doesn't scale even the DLS process they are using which I've seen before. It's much faster than FDM hobby printers and also much faster than conventional SLS printers although it's a derivative.
if some of those mesh break or split, they will be a pain for riders ass, triggering skin irritations and wound.
good point. any split would rip up your shorts and your ass. this product needs more time for full evaluation.
You will always get what you paid for just like anything else. Sold.
It will never take off like this. Perhaps if they cover the lattice. As is ... an expensive gimmick.
The intro music is a bit too much. Almost had a bloodclotheartattack, man.
Had to return this saddle and settled with the specialized power saddle. Had high hopes for this 3D printed saddle but it hurt my rear end like none other.
My best buy, bro. You need a bike fit! Seriously!
3D printing is not expensive at all . That's the whole joke about the pricing. Fair chance it's even cheaper to make than regular saddles.
Cheap in terms of materials but it's time consuming. My current FLSUN Q5 takes about 12hrs to complete any decent sized high quality print. With multiple layers like this - probably 24 hrs and more. And that's not printer quality - with 3D print speeds you run into physical limitations rather quickly so even a 3000€ printer wouldn't be that much faster.
@@CaptainShiny5000 Thanks for the insight info.
I don't know much about time. But I know they build houses with 3D printers that cost a lot less than a normall house would. There must be fast printers to do that job I presume.
@@YannickLB Well, the smaller and more detailed you get, the higher the print time.
@@CaptainShiny5000 Fair point!
@@YannickLB I'd say, with a really extremely rigid printer you might go up to 100 or maybe even 120mm/s print speed, but you'd have to have a perfectly dialed in machine or else that print might be lost like 4hrs in or so due to various possible failures. And you'll always get certain artifacts with increased printspeed which are unavoidable.
I’ll buy a Chinese copy of this for £50 at the earliest opportunity. 😂
Another overpriced gimmick in my opinion. Doesn't look particularly durable either.