Bike Fitter RANKS Saddles Worst to Best

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  • Choosing a bicycle saddle, easy right? Nope, there's so many options. Bike Fitter James Thomas Ranks them from worst to best in his opinion.
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  • @pauliui78
    @pauliui78 29 днів тому +88

    I'm using specialized power 143mm /110 sitbone width. The best saddle I've ever used.

    • @user-mr4yv4dd1r
      @user-mr4yv4dd1r 28 днів тому +2

      I have used the power for ages, works for me - upgraded to the power mirror - even better! The old power now on KickR bike works a treat too - even when not moving around a lot

    • @j.schaefer5622
      @j.schaefer5622 27 днів тому +4

      Yesss, the 143mm Power and the 143mm Phenom are the best saddles for me too.

  • @barryliu3473
    @barryliu3473 29 днів тому +61

    143mm power has been a blessing personally

    • @barryliu3473
      @barryliu3473 29 днів тому +1

      Coming from a selle italia boost slr s3

    • @Davido0013
      @Davido0013 29 днів тому

      Why its better? What problems u had with selle italia?

    • @Vanagon_life
      @Vanagon_life 29 днів тому +5

      143 power saddle is on all my bikes love it

    • @barryliu3473
      @barryliu3473 29 днів тому +1

      @@Davido0013 I just had hot spots on the inside of my thigh that potentially formed saddle sores when I stay in the saddle for like 3+hours. And yes I had a bike fit with the selle italia fitted. I just transferred the power saddle on, pushed it basically all the way forward and it has been a blessing since. I can even do like 2 hour on it without bib shorts.

    • @s3cr3td00rindar00m
      @s3cr3td00rindar00m 22 дні тому

      and for me the 155mm version and I am a 1.68m 63 Kg guy

  • @eyeq1451
    @eyeq1451 29 днів тому +41

    SQLab 612 Ergowave Active on both bikes. I have an SQLab "Premium" bike shop nearby, and when I bought the first one they said I could swap it within four weeks to a different one if I get uncomfortable. The longest ride on one of them was 312 km in a day, but I have done multiple 200+ km days as well so I'd say they fit very well. 😊

    • @joschisasa
      @joschisasa 26 днів тому +2

      same for me. best saddle(s) i had (so far?)

    • @alexprofos5232
      @alexprofos5232 26 днів тому +2

      SQLab saddles are just perfect for me as well, I have a 614 Ergowave Active 2.1 on my gravel bike and took the same size as my, about 12 year old, 612, they might be not the lightest, specially the "active", but I guess they are the best for fitting as they come in 1cm increment sizes and you can get the "more" perfect size, not sure why they are not mentioned more on english speaking channels

    • @doc-slider5345
      @doc-slider5345 23 дні тому +1

      I ride the SQLab 614 on my gravel for long long travel and the 612 on my racebike.
      I have been cycling since 1972 and these SQLabs are the best of the best.

    • @Indik47
      @Indik47 22 дні тому +2

      same for me, tried 612 - SQLab is the best

  • @supertramp6612
    @supertramp6612 28 днів тому +9

    My heart broke when the SMP came on and James slated the look. But only because I ride one! Me and my mates have all been riding SLR Boosts for a couple of years but found that on the big rides they would get uncomfortable. Our bike fitter recommended the SMP Nymber which we all recoiled at initially but eventually succumbed. We're now all riding them on road and gravel bikes and have no issues even on 100 miles + rides. Genuinely the most comfortable saddle I've ridden. Every time I see it, a part of me does die inside slightly..

  • @ShawnIsBatman
    @ShawnIsBatman 28 днів тому +9

    As a dedicated roadie, the two pieces of equipment that I have gone through the most variations of are saddles and shoes. I have settled on the Selle Italia SLR Boost (3D) and Lake shoes and am finally completely satisfied. My general criteria for knowing that a component like saddles or shoes are the right ones is that when I am riding I never find myself thinking about them.

  • @ncsteinb
    @ncsteinb 14 днів тому +2

    The ISM saddle has changed my riding experience. I've been to pro bike fitters many times and struggled with saddle pain after 1 hr of riding. The ISM has allowed me to have many hours of comfort on the bike, and allows me to enjoy the sport again. Thanks ISM!!

  • @kenannable4747
    @kenannable4747 29 днів тому +8

    Using the SQLab 611 Ergowave on my three bikes, and this model has worked well for me.

  • @xkpm
    @xkpm 28 днів тому +9

    Rode a Fizik Arione for years and it only started bothering me during longer (100+) rides. Switched to a Selle Italia Boost SLR S3 last year to see what the hubbub was all about and it was the most uncomfortable thing ever, fine at first but after a while or when really pushing it felt like it was trying to split my hip in half. I thought I just had to get used to it or break it in but after about 300km of testing I couldn't bare it anymore. I do like and tend to move on the saddle depending on the effort, riding position on the bars, terrain or when climbing and the SLR didn't allow me to do any of that (I probably taught myself that throughout the years cause the Arione allows for a lot of moving around). I switched to an old Fabric Line Race Shallow from my parts bin while looking for a new saddle but haven't looked back since, the Line rides great! TLDR; there's no exact science behind what's comfortable everyone, I'm tall and skinny with very little natural cushioning on my butt and still was fine (for the most part) with the hardness of the Arione and felt a pain I haven't felt before or since when riding the Boost SLR.

  • @Abnsdllnnlosnfd
    @Abnsdllnnlosnfd 29 днів тому +14

    SQ lab for the win

    • @blaze1148
      @blaze1148 24 дні тому

      ...definitely not for me - got the 612 I think and I just as well had sat on the seat post it was so painful !

  • @hectorkidds9840
    @hectorkidds9840 26 днів тому +3

    Pro stealth has been awesome for me, no saddle issues at LEL using drops, hoods and aero bars. Best saddle I've ever tried (for me).

  • @SlickWillyTFCF
    @SlickWillyTFCF 16 днів тому +1

    My bike came with a Fizik Aliante and it caused nothing but issues, mainly genital numbness within the first 20-30 minutes of a ride. I took a shot in the dark and bought a Selle Italia Model X and it wasn't much better. Finally decided to get a proper bike fit instead of wasting money blindly buying and trying random parts. My fitter got me on a Pro Stealth Offroad and it's been incredible. No more sore gooch or numb todger, even after multiple hours on the bike.

    • @xelseartheonlyone1267
      @xelseartheonlyone1267 7 днів тому

      I have a Pro stealth too. The wings though destroy me. I use the 142 width one. The 152 is unridable, maybe i should have gotten the more expensive one..?

    • @SlickWillyTFCF
      @SlickWillyTFCF 7 днів тому +1

      @@xelseartheonlyone1267 I'm on a 142. I can't imagine how uncomfortable the bigger one would be.
      I would get a bike fit. Buying random parts in the hope that they will work for you will rapidly exceed the cost of a bike fit, and you may never get it right on your own

  • @E.T_rode_bikes_As_well
    @E.T_rode_bikes_As_well 29 днів тому +13

    It’s like a superold James video…isn’t it?

  • @davidmulligan42
    @davidmulligan42 29 днів тому +31

    I bought the Selle Italia Boost a while back after James recommended it, and it's been working well for me.

    • @phil_d
      @phil_d 29 днів тому +2

      You should try the Pro Stealth Curved saddle then. I had the SLR Boost in both widths and I found the amount of opening and lack of cushion on the nose very uncomfortable after an hour.
      The Stealth has a smaller cutout and therefore more support in that area, with deeper padding. Well worth the 40g extra!

    • @davidmulligan42
      @davidmulligan42 29 днів тому

      @@phil_d Thanks, I might try it. I don't care about the extra 40g :)

    • @KoenMiseur
      @KoenMiseur 29 днів тому

      @@phil_d It isn't narrow enough.

    • @phil_d
      @phil_d 29 днів тому

      @@KoenMiseur Where? At the nose?

    • @phil_d
      @phil_d 29 днів тому +2

      @davidmulligan42 I actually had my ar$e pressure mapped because of the discomfort.
      My position was pretty much spot-on, other than a tiny saddle drop and back (still with the SLR). Mapping was even on the SLR, but you could see the concentration on the nose because the large cut out left little to support. The Stealth has a larger, flatter section on the nose.
      The normal Stealth (the one James hated) is flatter at the back and has a thicker nose. That rubbed the inside of my thighs straight away.

  • @mr_m_to_the_t
    @mr_m_to_the_t 28 днів тому +2

    Had a fit with James in May. Tried some different ones, came with an Ergon SMC40 and left with with it. Had saddle issues before, now don't have them anymore. Changing the position and insoles did the job!

  • @edrubin6042
    @edrubin6042 24 дні тому +2

    While it may be wrong for road the "beak" shape of the SMP is a stretched out version of WTB's mountain bike saddle which is great for off road. On an MTB the beak gives leverage out of the saddle in rock gardens and the kick up at the rear helps positioning while descending.
    My "road bike" has the inexpensive San Marco saddle Redline stuck on the Conquest Pro in 2009 and I'll use it until it wears out

  • @madmonkeycycling9098
    @madmonkeycycling9098 29 днів тому +16

    Went SMP 8 years ago, and never changing

    • @Silidons91
      @Silidons91 29 днів тому

      I love my Dynamic. I did have to put a straight seatpost, and run it all the way forwards. But I can ride in it for hours and hours with no issues.

    • @JanGoh-jb5ge
      @JanGoh-jb5ge 29 днів тому

      I wanted to try it, but it's absolutely unusable for cyclocross. I don't know why people keep saying SMP saddles are ugly, though. I like the look.

    • @Ashbridg3s
      @Ashbridg3s 29 днів тому +1

      But how do you know if something is better if you don’t try others ;)

    • @thomasfitzgibbon1675
      @thomasfitzgibbon1675 28 днів тому

      @@JanGoh-jb5gewhy? Does the shape make it dismounting and remounting awkward? I have an SMP on my mtb. Big fan

    • @JanGoh-jb5ge
      @JanGoh-jb5ge 28 днів тому

      @@thomasfitzgibbon1675 Yeah, anything that isn't flat and smooth is a problem. I had an Arione for a while and that would snag my shorts as my leg came up. CX remounts aren't really a jump onto the seat so much as a high stride that lets you put your inner thigh on the seat and then slide over.

  • @andymarshall8420
    @andymarshall8420 29 днів тому +2

    Tried the Power expert 155mm on my gravel bike, super comfy, no issues at all. Moved it over to my hardtail mtb and its been a revelation. Upgraded to a Power Expert with mirror 155mm on the gravel bike and changed seatpost. That's needed some tweaking but itll get there.

  • @jespernohr
    @jespernohr 28 днів тому +2

    After my fit with James, I ended up on the amazing Selle Italia Boost SLR S3. Super happy with it on my road bike. In another video with James he mentioned he had been trying out the Endurance version and was happy with it. So I bought one for my indoor bike. I am soooo happy with it, that I will go on my next bike, an adventure bike.
    PS. BikefitJames a man so nice they named him twice.

    • @tkbuz
      @tkbuz 24 дні тому

      Any suggestion how to determine whether I should order 130 width or 145?

    • @jespernohr
      @jespernohr 24 дні тому

      @@tkbuz I cannot tell what is best for you but I am really happy with mine and those are 130.

  • @craigharold492
    @craigharold492 29 днів тому +3

    Ritchey Vector, off my 96 Marin Bear Valley. By far, in nearly fifty years of cycling, the best saddle for me 💪🏼

  • @anthonyoldfield4965
    @anthonyoldfield4965 7 днів тому +1

    I swapped out my SLR Boost S3 for a SQLab 612 Ergowave Active 2.1 (13cm) on my road bike, and have the same (albeit 14cm) on my MTB / Gravel.

  • @brackishcycles
    @brackishcycles 29 днів тому +9

    Curious about jame's thoughts on the sqlabs 612r. Along the lines of bandaid on a problem or a true solution? I've struggled to get an aggressive fit that my flexibility allows for without frontal numbness, despite lowering my seat and having my fit verified. 612r fixed it for me! Just curious if he's used them.

  • @flipper2gv
    @flipper2gv 29 днів тому +77

    Wider saddles on smaller bikes is because they expect most of those who will use those bikes to be women.

    • @Chris-jc3lr
      @Chris-jc3lr 29 днів тому +3

      Yep pretty sure Canyon do the same thing

    • @Bikefitjames
      @Bikefitjames 29 днів тому +5

      WHO DO NOT NEED WIDER SADDLES!!!!

    • @akirarex
      @akirarex 28 днів тому +2

      @@Chris-jc3lr and Trek does this as well

    • @irfuel
      @irfuel 26 днів тому

      Which is nonsense

    • @flipper2gv
      @flipper2gv 26 днів тому

      @@irfuel why?

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug4423 28 днів тому +1

    I took one ride on a Specialized Power saddle and that was enough for me. Rode WTB Volt for several years it was decent but could start getting uncomfortable on longer rides. Now using a Ergon SM Enduro Comp, which is the most comfortable saddle I've ridden, and has the odd thing where it actually gets more comfortable when going uphill. And this is even with a steep STA and slight forward tilt on the saddle as it's on an enduro bike. It's also the smallest saddle I've used, which is nice because it gets out of the way very nicely when the dropper is down.

  • @chuckfrizzell8668
    @chuckfrizzell8668 29 днів тому +7

    Great video. Speaking of OE saddles - I have never kept one on a new bike - until now. 2024 Giant Revolt Advance gravel bike. It came with a Giant Approach saddle. I couldn’t believe the fit and comfort was/is so good. I’m 175cm / 63 kilos, train about 12 hours per week. Best wishes to everyone.

    • @MikkelZanio
      @MikkelZanio 29 днів тому +1

      I agree. Cheap saddle but it does the job!

    • @LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1
      @LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1 29 днів тому +1

      I second that and you can buy the stealthy integrated light for it. I have a Selle Italia titanium but the Giant Approach is bang on for a stock saddle

    • @danvardy3950
      @danvardy3950 29 днів тому

      Had many bikes. Giant Approach is the only one I have not changed. Love the light that slots in at the back too

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 28 днів тому

      Wow, I've owned two giants and I couldn't do one ride on the stock saddle on those.

  • @M3GRSD
    @M3GRSD 28 днів тому +4

    Fitters have those pressure-sensing saddles so you can see where most of the weight is landing based on your position, so you try a few saddles that the fitter has in his shop. To suggest any of these are good or bad seems silly because everyone's different. To everyone looking for a different saddle, just go get fitted.

    • @nluisa
      @nluisa 26 днів тому +1

      Totally! I had more than one bike fit with James. SLR boost was torture as soon as I tried it. Ergon was ok(ish). Just lots of chafing after 3+ hours and uncomfortable on more agressive positions. Had a follow up bike fit with Denver, who also works there. I tried the PRO Stealth, and it has been AMAZING! No chafing and I can ride on the drops all day because it is meant for agressive positions (I roll my hips forward a lot). I use a lot less chamois cream too. The wings bother slightly on very long rides (5h+), so I would like to try the curved version.

    • @irfuel
      @irfuel 26 днів тому

      @@nluisa I actually switched from his highly praised Ergon saddle (which I've been using for 2 years) to the Pro Stealth on both my bikes and I haven't looked back. As you said, if you ride in the drops a lot (or like me, on aero/tri bars) the difference with the Ergon is huge.

  • @johnleonard5936
    @johnleonard5936 22 дні тому +1

    I tried the Selle Italia SLR BOOST and it took months to recover. I then tried the Selle SMP Well and absolutely love it. Everyone is different.

  • @franzgustavgauner5601
    @franzgustavgauner5601 22 дні тому

    I rarely whatch Cade stuff anymore but out of curiosity clicked on this one. Coaccidently I changed Bars and Saddle on my Maser Olimpic yesterday and will now try to make more us of the back part of my SLR Boost since I still have to perform my proud and trusty "home saddle bikefit" Thanks for the tip!

  • @JoeW71
    @JoeW71 10 днів тому

    I have an Ergon SR Allroad that is pretty comfortable. But my new Felt bike came with a Prologo saddle, also pretty good. Thanks for the good info. I took notes.

  • @xelseartheonlyone1267
    @xelseartheonlyone1267 12 днів тому +1

    1:56 personally Pro Stealth is the only saddle that is the hardest to cause me numbness. Compared to anything else i have tried, even triathlon ones.

  • @christophterres
    @christophterres 29 днів тому +14

    Brooks Cambium All Weather Carved. Fits like a Bucket.

    • @hartrob
      @hartrob 29 днів тому +1

      Is that good or bad? Lol

    • @christophterres
      @christophterres 29 днів тому +1

      Fits like arse on a bucket is an german proverb and means, fits perfectly.

    • @rob-c.
      @rob-c. 29 днів тому

      Superb saddle - at least for me. One of the few saddles I had experience with where I don’t need to wear a padded short - at least for rides I’ve done up to an hour.

    • @coryhigginbotham1705
      @coryhigginbotham1705 28 днів тому

      I had one for about 2 years and it great at first but I started having issue and switch.

    • @thomasbrooks2549
      @thomasbrooks2549 24 дні тому +1

      Luv brooks saddle have on every bicycle I own cannot public disclose that number due to being married

  • @BrawndoDrinker
    @BrawndoDrinker 27 днів тому +1

    I've used tons of different saddles in my 40+ years on mt bikes. Couple years back tried out a simple Ergon SMC large and was shocked how good it was. Don't need a chamois any more, and put them on almost my entire stable.

  • @daredemontriple6
    @daredemontriple6 29 днів тому +8

    Had a bike fit a while back and tried all sorts. I had started with a Prologo Nago without pressure-relief channel. My bike fitter at the time commented that he was amazed I could ride what I was riding while being 6'5 and 120kg almost, he said it must feel "Like riding a knife edge". Tried at least half a dozen other saddles none of which really clicked, even including a SLR boost I think. All far too hard and painful. Then we tried something a bit unorthodox, a Brooks C17 with pressure relief cut-out. It was like sitting in an armchair to be honest, so much more comfortable than anything else I'd ever ridden. It may not look very fast, but we all know a comfy rider rides faster for longer than one who's experimenting with testicular pancakes!
    Moral of the story, find the problem and then solve it, don't just buy something because it looks cool or has cool tech or the pros use it. It's no good having a 'cool' bike if you never ride it for being in agony

    • @BikesKomsCRO
      @BikesKomsCRO 29 днів тому +3

      Think your issue is weight.. i was 115kg and everything was uncomftable.. once i dropped to 100 and now to 95 soon 90 i found more comfort in all saddles. Im using Power Expert 155mm on all bikes now.

    • @daredemontriple6
      @daredemontriple6 29 днів тому +2

      @@BikesKomsCRO No doubt, weight is a huge factor and there's no getting around it. Unfortunately, at my height, even at a pretty good body fat % I still weigh about 105-110kg. So my only option really is to cut muscle too which I'd prefer not to do!
      But it's just a good example of how one needn't ride certain saddles. What I ride now is comfy for me, far more so than other kinds, and yet I'm still at that weight.

  • @ashleyhouse9690
    @ashleyhouse9690 25 днів тому +1

    I had a bike fit with James and bought an SLR Boost on his recommendation. OK for 20-30 miles but any longer and it felt like I was sitting on a plank of wood. Eventually tried a Bontrager Verse Comp and am much more comfortable on rides up to 100 miles.

  • @kivriel2660
    @kivriel2660 20 днів тому

    I have Selle Italia Model X on 2 bikes. Very happy with it!

  • @carlnyman4903
    @carlnyman4903 29 днів тому +3

    Fizik Arione R1, for the simple reason that it is insanely narrow. Although sit bone measurements may not tell the full story, I'm in the 99th percentile of narrowness for men at

    • @aeropotato
      @aeropotato 29 днів тому

      I use one also, have used them for a long time. guess we both love bad bike fits. i have tried changing, my junk prefers a bit of torture…

  • @adrienarnaud7183
    @adrienarnaud7183 15 днів тому +1

    The Selle Italia Boost (Superflow Manganese S in my case) was by far the most uncomfortable saddle I have never experienced. 😅
    I could'nt have a >2h ride sitting on this saddle without having a massive sit bone pain.
    I guess we all have different bumps and needs. 🤣

  • @ru71
    @ru71 29 днів тому +2

    SLR Boost on all 3 bikes, 3D, endurance and standard. Best saddle I’ve used and a super happy butt. Thanks James and CADE

    • @michaellee7046
      @michaellee7046 29 днів тому

      @@ru71 how do you like the 3d vs the standard?

    • @alecledbetter
      @alecledbetter 29 днів тому

      Curious to hear your preference as well after hearing the 3D is James' least favorite of the 3

    • @ru71
      @ru71 28 днів тому

      @@alecledbetter I have it on my Kickr Bike shift, it was a definite upgrade on the standard one. Haven't tried it on an actual bike yet. Done about 2000km on it, I also got it for half price so which was basically the only reason I went for it over the endurance

  • @stuartlundstrom9570
    @stuartlundstrom9570 23 дні тому

    Tried the Pro Turnix a couple of years ago based on another video that James did. A couple of years later and having replaced all my saddles with the Turnix - I’ve not had a single issue with sores or any discomfort at all 👌🏻

  • @TY-wd5fv
    @TY-wd5fv 25 днів тому +1

    Just finished up a bike fit and came out loving the pro stealth... I due have wide hips and I really appreciate how flat the saddle is

  • @gcaldwell4
    @gcaldwell4 Місяць тому +36

    Finally!! James is back! 😊

    • @rob-c.
      @rob-c. 29 днів тому

      Have we been waiting for a video where someone gives a blanket opinion on saddles, which are in fact, so personal?

    • @geoffersmaher
      @geoffersmaher 27 днів тому

      @@rob-c. by default this is just one mans view so is more andavert for what he sells has sold or what he and some of his customers have enjoyed. man i hate these lists for something that can be different for everyone.
      the comments are half disagreement so that says it all

  • @allrounderbicycle7193
    @allrounderbicycle7193 11 днів тому

    I have not found the golden saddle. Yet. Thing is I use my bike for everything and prefer locking up an swag bin freebie in front of the grocery store, vs, a nice new San Marco Shortfit or SLR. Riding that line between posh and thrash. Right now on a Fabric Line and can stay comfortable on that for up to 4 hours.

  • @McHayes76
    @McHayes76 23 дні тому

    The Power saddle (155 mm) finally freed me from pain down under. So I now have one (or a copy) on all my bikes.

  • @mipko
    @mipko 29 днів тому +6

    Specialized power saddle is for me most comfortable saddle I currently own, but said that, I have smaller 145mm version even though according their measuring tools I should have 155mm one, but I did tried it and it is too wide for me (120kg bloke with fat ass).

    • @zegmakker010
      @zegmakker010 29 днів тому

      Yeah I've tried the 130mm Power Mirror and that was extremely comfortable to me.

  • @frazergoodwin4945
    @frazergoodwin4945 29 днів тому +1

    Selle Italia SLR Boost gravel superflow S3 saddle user here - thank god I stopped using that Specialized Power when I changed my bike from a Diverge to a Checkpoint!
    Bonus - the blue colour it has goes with my Checkpoint frame colourway!

    • @frankmesh5280
      @frankmesh5280 29 днів тому

      What size were you running in your specialized power? I'm looking to switch away from my 143mm power saddle for something a little better for my gravel riding.

    • @frazergoodwin4945
      @frazergoodwin4945 29 днів тому

      @frankmesh5280 my Diverge is the 2020 Sport size 58 so it has the 155 size Power saddle. WAY too wide for skinny ass me!

  • @glensmall1
    @glensmall1 11 днів тому

    I used to use the Selle Smp trk, and loved it, but after fitting shorter cranks and fixing my position, I switched to the selle italia boost endurance. Really like it.

  • @buster.keaton
    @buster.keaton 25 днів тому

    Another excellent video by James. I wish he wasn't half way around the globe from where I live as he's convinced me that he's a bike fitter worth paying for.

  • @BennyOcean
    @BennyOcean 25 днів тому

    Fizik Argo Vento was not featured on this list but it's one I use and enjoy.

  • @paulhadlington8179
    @paulhadlington8179 19 днів тому

    I've tried a number of saddles and the ones that worked best for me were the cheap and cheerful "Charge" submissions. Ive ridden 80-100 miles regularly using either the "spoon" version on my endurance bike, and the "knife" on my faster road bike.

  • @cannon1156
    @cannon1156 28 днів тому +1

    You should check the Ryet saddle made in China. It is surprisingly comfortable

  • @berndberndson4494
    @berndberndson4494 29 днів тому +1

    Brooks B17 carved, is my favorite saddle. Made a 250 km Tour with my Gravel bike on it, without any problems...

    • @sepg5084
      @sepg5084 29 днів тому +1

      It depends on your riding position. Big saddles tend to be better for more upright riding positions while slimmer saddles tend to be better for more aggressive riding positions.

  • @michaeldoise8672
    @michaeldoise8672 15 днів тому

    The specialized Power Comp 143mm works well for me. Some chafing of the thighs but that usually goes away after a while. I've also had good rides on Fabric Scoop Shallow (now owned by Cannondale, I believe).

  • @paulelkouss
    @paulelkouss 28 днів тому

    I'm also a fan of the super flow boost S3! I'm glad James shared info about it.

  • @ryanS593
    @ryanS593 19 днів тому

    Cadex Boost. Been using it for a few years and it’s just a great saddle for any ride.

  • @billjones7580
    @billjones7580 21 день тому

    Game changer saddle for me was (is) SMP Composit. Yes. I know, SMP. BUT it was added as part of a bike fit. It took a fair while to dial in but now it's absolutely perfect. 100 miles no issues. Feels the same after 100 miles at it does after the first 5. It's my saddle. I do agree with a lot of what is mentioned in the video, 90% of saddle issues are probably coming from the fit in general

  • @suartdave
    @suartdave 15 днів тому

    Turned to the internet as I’m just not finding my Specialized Power 143 very good. I’m 68kg 5’ 11” and the beginning of this video was peaching to the choir. Power 143 feels too wide. Feels like my sit bones get rubbed and I’m relying on chamois cream to get me through 70 miles with 100 feeling sore. Will consider a bike fit.

  • @joekawasaki
    @joekawasaki 29 днів тому

    The slr boost is my go to! I got it as a warranty replacement for a saddle they no longer made. It's super light, lightly padded, and comfortable enough to ride without a chamois!

  • @Afrikakorps68
    @Afrikakorps68 29 днів тому +55

    All the comments mention dozen of different saddle brands and types confirm the right choice is personal and this video nearly useless.

    • @out_spocken
      @out_spocken 28 днів тому +5

      And yet..how many commenting have tried this many saddles? Most people stop when something works ok. When there could actually be a better saddle out there for them. Many don't know how good and comfortable a saddle can be ...just like not realizing how painless cycling can be till being properly fitted.
      Most people can't afford to buy 1p saddles to find the right one. Thats upward of 2k and even then you can still get the sizing wrong even if you're on the right saddle.
      So yes..personal cjoice perhaps...but also maybe a fitter might have an idea.
      That said I ride a power saddle and have noticed the issue of the wings being an issue and pushing me more forward on the saddle.

    • @starsandstripes3
      @starsandstripes3 28 днів тому

      Maybe listening to his reasons for his rankings is informative and helpful? The guy makes money selling saddle fittings to people, he's not trying to tell people what saddle they need. But yes, everything is misinformation and there's no such thing as nuance. Only brainrot.

    • @aloumun
      @aloumun 28 днів тому +2

      Perfect example is the more narrow version of the Specialized Power the video opens with has been the most comfortable saddle that I have owned for more than a return policy’s length.

    • @Afrikakorps68
      @Afrikakorps68 28 днів тому +1

      @starsandstripes3 That's the point. He makes money too. Some general advice may be useful for beginners but a saddle has to be tested for few days and few hours. I like him, very professional but on this topic...not really. Enjoy your rides.

    • @lovecycling193
      @lovecycling193 23 дні тому

      I love my SMP Avant but also liked the Specialized Arc pro elsaton

  • @zmejserow
    @zmejserow 29 днів тому

    SQLab 612R for road bike. Absolute win. No issues on races, on regular coffeerides, on climbing adventures or on brevets up to 300km.

  • @andrewcharlesworth2512
    @andrewcharlesworth2512 29 днів тому +1

    My saddle creaks (after about 3,000 miles) and tried to lube rails where they meet the saddle etc … does it mean it’s worn and needs replacing?

  • @logankfritz
    @logankfritz 28 днів тому

    The Bontrager Commuter Fluid Saddle is a solid saddle for larger riders and casual cyclists. The Selle Royal Explora Saddle is also the most comfortable saddle with road geometry and just a little bit of pressure relief. I've done 80 mi rides on these saddles as a 120 kg rider and they've held up!

  • @sventice
    @sventice 24 дні тому +1

    Saddles are a really personal thing; no saddle is "the best" for everyone, or even for very many people. The one that works for me is the Fizik Antares R3: it's pretty much totally flat, it has a cutout, rails are reasonably long, and it's not too squishy. I never think about my butt when I ride on this thing, which is precisely what you want from any saddle.

  • @kornenator
    @kornenator 29 днів тому +1

    After trying a few, now using the Ergon SM Comp

  • @BrotoGP
    @BrotoGP 28 днів тому

    I switched from a Power 143 to the SLR Boost S3. My sitbones are narrow AF so the change was amazing. I should have never ridden the Power 143 and a narrower version was hardly available. But you live and you learn.

  • @Przemo-c
    @Przemo-c 22 дні тому

    Went through a lot of saddles but for me the one that works is specialized phenom 143 not sure why exactly but i dont have any rub on n my thighs is quite supportive and its easy to change position in.

  • @JDPhader
    @JDPhader 29 днів тому +1

    I ride the PRO Stealth 142. When I was testing saddles about 5 years ago this one came out on top together with Prologo Dimension 143 which was a bit harsher on my sit bones which is why I went with the Stealth. This year I decided to try the Selle Italia SLR Boost 130 after watching James' videos. To be honest it was very underwhelming experience. The shape for sit bones didn't go right with me and also caused my soft tissue to sit too low and the edges of the inner channel were digging into it causing pretty big problems. After a week or so I finally went back to the Stealth and it was bliss.

    • @yurokle
      @yurokle 28 днів тому

      I've had a similar experience with the SLR. The edges of the pressure relief channel were putting way too much pressure on my bottom. Maybe the padded version of the saddle doesn't have that issue.

    • @nluisa
      @nluisa 26 днів тому

      Exactly my experience with the SLR boost (fortunately I tried it during a fitting session). I roll my hips forward a lot and the PRO stealth is meant for exactly that. I find the wings a tad sharp on very long rides, so I might try the curved version if this one needs a replacement.

  • @KoenMiseur
    @KoenMiseur 29 днів тому

    James, I don't always agree with you but you convinced me on the Boost Endurance I have them now on most of my bikes (even the 3D printed one, and I do like it)! It was after a bike holiday where I rented a bike with a very narrow saddle and it fitted me perfectly (with the same measurements as my bike at home), never had that happen before!

  • @christianfricke1986
    @christianfricke1986 29 днів тому +1

    After trying a number of saddles and adjusting reach and saddle height I have come to rely on Brooks‘s Cambium C17 Allweather. It‘s comfortable, I have no problems with soreness or numbness, I can park my behind where it is supposed to and I can ride it with or without chamois.

    • @seandunderdale
      @seandunderdale 29 днів тому

      Is it quite flexy? I've got a c19 and it's pretty rigid. Seen a c17 on UA-cam and it flexed a lot.

    • @christianfricke1986
      @christianfricke1986 29 днів тому

      @@seandunderdale It is medium flexible - since it's natural rubber, it depends on the temperature, too. But yeah, compared to foamy saddles it is quite rigid.

    • @xelseartheonlyone1267
      @xelseartheonlyone1267 12 днів тому +1

      I tried all saddles except Brooks! Are they really that good? Might try one when i can...

    • @christianfricke1986
      @christianfricke1986 12 днів тому +1

      @@xelseartheonlyone1267You should. The Cambium Allweather is quite long - so it is not built so well for gnarly off road terrain, but it is really comfortable on long rides on road or gravel.

  • @JasonZais
    @JasonZais 28 днів тому

    Recently built up a gravel bike with the Selle Italia SLR Boost Gravel in teal, and by all measures it's the same as the SLR Endurance. It's damn good! After getting into a bit of a saddle hell, it just worked!

  • @markusseppala6547
    @markusseppala6547 29 днів тому +1

    Switched from Selle Flite 145mm to Selle SLR 130mm and moved the saddle forward over 1cm. Very true too wide saddle makes you sit on the nose too much.

  • @lerrjlee9347
    @lerrjlee9347 28 днів тому

    Love my Sqlab 612 Active! I can ride in regular running shorts on my flat bar commuter comfortably for multiple hours. With proper bibs on the road bike it's perfect. I bought the wrong size at first, so there was some trial and error on my part. I bought a 15cm, but in the end switched to a 14cm, the 15cm works fine on my XC bike though.

  • @iunnra1s
    @iunnra1s 29 днів тому

    Selle Italia Boost 100%. I've ended up installing one on both of my road bikes. The creak is real but completely overshadowed by the ability to ride long hours with no saddle issues at all.

  • @bikewatcher5428
    @bikewatcher5428 29 днів тому +2

    Don’t forget the sella SMP Glider probably the most comfy saddle out there I think👍

  • @AllThingsAlexanderTromp
    @AllThingsAlexanderTromp 26 днів тому

    Still absolutely in love with my Pro Stealth. One of the main reasons it works for me is that it's short. Not sure I want to visit a bike fitter if they say shortness is a problem...

  • @Mas421
    @Mas421 27 днів тому

    Yes I agree, riding the selle italia slr boost, and it s the best for me. Tried the SQlab 612, it was the worst I had.

  • @joshualindenthaler8468
    @joshualindenthaler8468 24 дні тому

    Selle Repente - Quasar is my goto saddle. Have on all of my bikes, Road to XC mtb

  • @manouchk38
    @manouchk38 6 днів тому

    Why all thoose saddle that have concave part near its back? I never understood that... Are they only for time trial? My prefered saddle is also a selitalia and it slightly convex at the back side.

  • @TrailDave
    @TrailDave 2 години тому

    Ergon are awesome for MTB and Road. Love em

  • @DZig
    @DZig 25 днів тому +1

    I have a Specialized Power saddle with mirror, and love it! You rated it worst, I rate it tops for my butt! (MTB)

  • @sharokinisayo7389
    @sharokinisayo7389 28 днів тому

    The Selle Italia boost came on my recently purchased Factor Ostro Vam II and it’s the most comfortable saddle I’ve ridden on.

  • @robs6750
    @robs6750 24 дні тому

    Pro Stealth in the wider width is the best saddle I’ve ever used. I own 4 of them now, on all my bikes

  • @seppel2077
    @seppel2077 25 днів тому

    i use selle italia flite L3 versions since 1992, i use them on road and mountain bikes. we growed as a team ;)

  • @mohammadtaufek5529
    @mohammadtaufek5529 25 днів тому

    I been using Fizik Vento Agro saddle for 4 year … & last year I bought Bjorn Setka 3D printed saddle .., it’s the most comfortable saddle ….never look back

  • @Saladh_Olivier
    @Saladh_Olivier 29 днів тому

    Prologo Nago R4 is my fav atm. It has a pressure relieve channel that goes up to the nose of a saddle, which helps a lot when reading in a more agressive position.

  • @mickingle
    @mickingle 28 днів тому

    I have a Selle Italia SLR and can confirm mine creaks a lot. However i love it.

  • @SonnyDarvishzadeh
    @SonnyDarvishzadeh 29 днів тому +1

    I like my Pro Stealth that bought two for both bikes.

  • @jasonmessing
    @jasonmessing 28 днів тому

    My race bike is fitted with the prologo scratch M5 and my trainer Bike the Selle Italia Boost SLR Superflow. Both are comfortable and don't rub my thighs like the Specialized saddles did.

  • @bald1der
    @bald1der 29 днів тому +1

    In the process of going through a saddle search now. Looking at the Belle SMP TRK. I like a little more padding and width in my seats.

  • @1RichieRich
    @1RichieRich 23 дні тому

    I've tried loads of saddles ,top ones that I've had is specialized toupe team & charge spoon

  • @jopsjosef9414
    @jopsjosef9414 29 днів тому

    I'm with James on the Selle Italia SLR Boost. Have them on both my road and gravel bikes. And agree with James, the endurance model with a little more padding is the one I like most

  • @bumsha
    @bumsha 26 днів тому

    Cadex Boost is a dream saddle - super comfortable, lightweight, looks excellent!

  • @robinmiguel8111
    @robinmiguel8111 24 дні тому

    Used a Selle Italia SLR boost Superflow. Cradled my hips like I went for a bike fit(I’ve never been to one before)

  • @Rufiioh
    @Rufiioh 29 днів тому +7

    I would like to hear James' opinion on SQlab saddles

    • @blaze1148
      @blaze1148 24 дні тому

      Me personally - *_YUC !_*

  • @EmrysJones
    @EmrysJones 24 дні тому

    I have had sit bone issues since I started had a bike fit twice tried 15 saddles different bikes different shorts only time I don't get it if I wear bibs with winter leggings which also has a thin bib

  • @koganmb
    @koganmb 28 днів тому

    Ergons have been my goto for several years, but now I'm really liking the Trek/Bontrager Aeolus that came on my Gen 7 Madone. Will be buying a second one for an older road bike. Had planned a repro version of the Flight, but just going to go comfort over vintageness.

  • @vinaass
    @vinaass 20 днів тому

    For me the SMP is the best! The shape, the profile, the cushions and overall look makes a great and comfortable ride!

  • @jordan1991r
    @jordan1991r 29 днів тому +1

    Funnily enough I have a Toupe, SMP, SLR boost and Specialized in my garage! All with varying degrees of comfort, some wide some skinny. I find saddles bearable but I can never say I’ve been truly comfortable. Think that’s just part of being a big fat guy looking to lose some weight!

    • @Glassgate
      @Glassgate 28 днів тому

      As a big fat guy myself, what is your sit bone width and what have you found the most “comfortable”? (I understand you haven’t found the exact one just yet)

  • @smjunglist6885
    @smjunglist6885 29 днів тому

    I can't speak for the standard Arione as I've never used it, I can see why it would be bad as there's no relief channel. However, the VS version from years ago is the only saddle I've found which doesn't cause any comfort issues on longer rides. In my opinion It's excellent.

  • @kevinlyon9501
    @kevinlyon9501 27 днів тому

    I remember doing those sitbone measurements when working in a bike shop and that was over 20 years ago, thought they would of come up with something else by now.

  • @VYBEKAT
    @VYBEKAT 28 днів тому

    Selle Italia Flite is the only saddle I don't hate. Flat both front to back and side to side. Very stable and supportive.
    Similar to the Pro Griffon but more T shaped from above.
    Everything else has excessive contours that make me feel like i sliding off.
    Only thing I wish for is the foam to be denser and firmer.

  • @moonwrasse
    @moonwrasse 28 днів тому

    Brooks Cambium c15 carved works for me.