Is the AliExpress (Ryet) 3D printed saddle good alternatives?
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
- Join us as we take an in-depth look at the AliExpress (Ryet) saddle and compare it to the popular Fizik Antares Adaptive saddle. From physical measurements to construction, materials and real-world testing, we'll evaluate the Ryet saddle to see if it's worth your money. Whether you're a casual cyclist or a professional racer, the right saddle can make all the difference in terms of comfort, performance, and enjoyment on the bike. Find out if the Ryet saddle, with its 3D-printed polygon-shaped cover and carbon construction, can deliver the right level of comfort and support for your ride. Don't miss this comprehensive review!
Product Reference
AliExpress (Ryet) saddle - www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
Fizik Antares Adaptive - www.fizik.com/eu_en/antares-v...
Chapters
0:00 3D printed saddle from AliExpress
0:57 Physical measurements - Width
1:57 Physical measurements - Height
3:18 Physical measurements - Weight
4:26 Physical measurements - Padding thickness
6:23 Construction - Rail
9:37 Construction - Shell
13:59 Construction - Cover materials
18:35 On the road with Fizik
21:00 On the road with Ryet
23:22 Would I buy the Ryet again? - Спорт
Thank you for the time you took to do this in-depth review. Always good to hear from the people riding the products and not just the manufacturers. Good, helpful review.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for your support.
Great detailed review with lots of important measurements and details most youtubers would not include. Thanks for the informative review!
Thanks for watching!
I have 2 of these 3D printed Ali Express... no complains at all... they do work... that simple...
what's your sit bone width?
I have one too. Can’t really tell the difference between it and my Trek saddle. But it’s at least almost 150 grams lighter.
i bought same saddle feom Aliexpress on Aug/2022.still good condition and fit it my ass. no issue!!
Great review! I appreciate you eye for details!
Thanks for watching!
Great analysis - thank you
I currently ride on the chinese "zeus' carbon and 3d printed saddle, which is very similar to the ryet saddle.
So far after a couple months of riding it, I can certainly say its a great saddle the zeus comes in at 163g and is actually more comfortable than all the other saddles I have owned in the past.
you should put a link as to where you can find a description of the Zeus saddle
What did you own in the past?
@@destructoooo Recently I tried the Dash saddle. But I own 21 bicycles with assorted saddles. The list is long
@@se7ensnakes gotta try them all right 😀.
Such an in depth review and comparison!! Well done on an excellent video!
I have a Selle Italia with the gap. Never tried Fizik before. But don't think I'll buy the cheaper one now.
Thanks for watching.
Great review. Tend to agree. Best not to mess around when you find a saddle that fits.
Luckily a friend of mine sold his fizik antares evo r3 for $170. Used once for Ironman then he sold it. Been using the evo r3 for about 5 months now and it’s comfy af! No saddle sores even on long ride 150-200km. And the width is perfect for me!
That’s really good price for the saddle 👏
still wearing bib shorts?
Very detailed video, that had to have taken a lot of time. Nice job.
Glad you enjoyed it
I have the same Saddle, i love it!
Great review. Thank you
Thanks for watching
Thank you for review.
You’re welcome
Fizik of any kind don’t work for myself whereas a short nose flat wide Like the Spez does - I’m also playing with a couple of 3d packages that provide structural 3d lattices for printing so this video is timely - had some good success in searching for the unicorn saddle from AliX in the past. -may have to pick this up to try
Let’s us know how you going with your experience.
I have a cheap saddle with the same shape (but not a 3d printed one) as the ryet and I have also found the nose much too wide and the saddle too wide in general. ordered some narrow selle italia saddles now they should arrive this week.
I would love to see a test of a comparable saddle to the Specialized Romin Evo Mirror.
Thanks for the suggestion. I love to do a review on the Mirror saddle if there is someone can sponsor it 😆
Very nice. Thxsss
awesome review
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for your review! Very thorough.
Where did you get your prescription riding glasses? Im looking for some.
Thanks for watching.
You can get a few different types of eye ware with optical inserts. A few brans have specific designs that support optical inserts. Than I order the lenes from optometrist.
@@cycleandexplore I tried to order the lens and then they say NO.. they said that they don't fit lenses into flimisy plastic frames even if I take responsibility for the break of the frame latter on... So, I end up not having any use for that inner frame.
Nice work!
Thank you
If you don't mind me asking, what torque did you use to secure the rails to the clamps? I could not find anything recommended by the manufacturer.
I use 5 Nm.
i've the steel fizik, 180$ an can say after +/-1000km it's a (the) perfect saddle, at least for me
Is that a 3D printed or padded saddle?
Unfortunately my experience with the Ryet / Zuess Aircode 3d printed saddle has not been so good thus far. I use it on my XC MTB hardtail. It lasted one (1) month before the the nose of the saddle separated from the rails where the rails and saddle nose are joined together. Ryet has sent me a replacement. However they made me pay for shipping. We will see how the second saddle copes with relatively abusive South African XCM racing.
I have another 3D printed saddle (not Ryet) with the same issue. I applied some multi purpose glue and it worked great for me so far. It is not the best quality but it’s a affordable option.
For those who have the Ryet, any comments about the full carbon build vs the plastic base? Thanks!
Wonder if you can share the brand and perhaps the link of your cycling glasses? Appreciate in advance
I got it from Rockbros on their AU website. www.rockbros.com.au/collections/sunglasses-goggles/products/rock-bros-photochromic-sports-sunglasses-for-men-women-cycling-uv-protection
However, you can also find them on other websites as well.
Thank you for the kind reply! Saw that you had your specs on with the cycling shades hence really piqued my interest
What do you all think, can the ryet 3d take a 100 kg rider or does the weight compress the 3d structure too much? Looking for the ryet with the metal mounts
I don’t think the Ryet has a metal rail option (happy to be corrected). It doesn’t have any load ratings as I was about 80kg and it was totally fine. It would be a calculated risk you need to consider.
Wonderful... You helped a lot... I was about to buy it and then watched your video and will not anymore because I don't like saddles that rub against my inner legs causing the skin to fall off during a long ride! That is a NO NO NO NO for me.
There are different shapes of AliExpress 3D saddle available. Worth a consideration.
thanks!
You are very welcome
I used to buy expensive saddles, I gave it a try with the Ryet saddle, and I love it, comfortable and lightweight. It’s worth every penny! $45 dollars 😂
Most important is the saddle shape fits you well.👍
Are you using sungod glasses with glass insert? How’s the comfort level?
That is not a sungod though. Most of the brands do similar products and I tried a few different brands and that all fit ok. Best to buy glasses with adjustable nose pad.
@@cycleandexplore thanks, may i ask what brand are you using
That is from Rockbros
At first I bought a Sella San Marco Royal for my Brompton, with a new black titanium post, but I have lately found an inexpensive, soft carbon A.E. sadle with a large slit in the middle, for test, also as I want to reduce weight on my "Superlight" 😄, which is a joke, but now down to 9,35 kilo. Below the original version, and still falling.
These AliExpreas saddle could be a very good application for a lightweight build. I don’t have a Brompton and I am interested to know how it feels on small wheels.
@@cycleandexplore The small wheels, even with the "high pressure" which is intended for the Brompton, will always give a higher rolling resistance! But a Brompton is a special tool and can't really be compared with an ordinary bike with large wheels. Its main purpose is the ability to be brought anywhere, and it is easily able to be used for longer distances also, as many, also I have done! You end up liking the little bastard! Finn. Denmark
10:25 - looking at the rails mount points in Ryet I have an impression like they will break on the 2nd or 3rd ride at most. In reality, they may be absolutely fine, just saying what I see.... Fizik seems much more sturdy
I can feel and touch the rail and shell of the saddle. I dont have any concern about the structure of the saddle. I will be calling it out if there are any issues (like the other videos)
I have a 3D print Ryet (different that in the video) and no problems with the carbon rails. I'm about 80kg. But the 3D did wear my bibs quite much in just a few rides.
Interesting…but if any of the holes break you can forget your shorts ? Also cleaning ?
I have had 3D Saddles for over 1.5 years on my 3 road bikes. No issue with that at all😇. Not sure about MTB or Gravel though.
Hi, with what torque did you mount that saddle?
5Nm
I have no wonder about carbon product coming from chiness, even they are the best to produce it. I also play badminton, and I use one of the biggest badminton brand in the world "Lining". The quality is very good
Omg the fisik that cost me 300 . Make me go to the orthopedic. It was horrible. I haven’t buy the Chinese version but I bought the especialized mimic and it’s GREAT !!
one big flaw with this is trying to clean the dirt getting stuck inside. i wish they make a version 2 of this but with full covering.
sure its not as appealing is this and you wont be able to brag about it in public because people wont see the honey comb design.
but at least with a cover around it, it would last significantly longer.
I know Specialized has a 3D saddle with cover. Maybe worth to try it out?
I personally only do road ride so it is not a problem for me.
Looks like the saddles will trap dirt in its holes pretty well. What's the point of having all those holes exposed?
It is okay on road bikes, but I could imagine the problem with gravel/mountain bikes. Maybe specialized 3D-printed saddles are less exposed for that very same reason?
@@cycleandexplore it might be ok on road bikes that ride on pristine roads, but some road bikes encounter rain and a bit of mud from time to time. I just don't see the point of having the holes exposed instead of being covered with maybe some synthetic leather/PU just like on other saddles.
Anyways, nice review.
i have a saddle with the same shape (the cheap One) with normal padding, i guess It's a standard product for saddle manufatories in China (obviously copied from Pro stealth saddle). Anyway, i feel not too bad with that but i wonder what can be the difference with such a 3d surface, is the feeling so different from a normal saddle? Looking to the video you found a problem about the shape, but except that do you think this kind of padding is really a gamechanger or It's Just marketing?
I would say the 3D-printed padding alone does not make a huge difference to me. I also pointed out this AliExpress version does not have transitions in the padding, which I think is a big missed opportunity.
I think you need to also consider the shell structure as a combo. The Fizik in the video is my favourite due to the balance of padding and shell flex. I generally prefer firm padding and found the Selle Italia SLR just works for me in the traditional padding.
You can definitely find good comfort in the traditional padded saddle. The main advantages of the 3D-printed saddle are the transitions and the lighter weight.
i asked cause i changed many saddles, changed position on the bike, but still have sore pain on ischiatic Bones After 100kms ride. Until 60kms It's fine, then i start feeling the pain. So i dont know what to do... Except riding for 60kms max 😅
@@lucar7758This will sound counter intuitive but try a hard carbon fiber saddle with no padding, sit bone width is crucial. Since I switched to a Chinese 135mm wide carbon saddle no pain whatsoever. Good quality padded shorts are the key. I do 5+ hr rides.
Atleast it's better then Fi:zik's 3d-printed saddle !!!
Very good tutorial u can get either 3D seat or carbon rail $18.49 TEMU.
I dunno but i think a slick shiny surface seat probably going 2b superiour. I feel like it will better keeps things from sticking 2 1capilary numbing postition always move around on thbike thats thcardinal of all rules. Lower friction.... Think wisdom behind th Brooks B17.
I have a carbon 3D print Ryet saddle and I just noticed how much it wore out my Castelli bibs. Anybody else?
I dont have that problem but I have similar problem with another AliExpress Saddle.
@@cycleandexplore So not all 3D saddles wear out bibs? Also, the bibs that got damaged are not the shiny compact lycra ones. It's those that have lycra but are the softer material such as my thermal Castelli long bibs and short Louis Garneau bibs. Those bibs are a bit more grippy I'd say.
what traditional saddle do you recommend?
I have a Selle Italia SLR Superflow which I have been using (still using) for 4-5 years. Best if you could go to a local shop and try a few different options before buying it.
The problem with the ryet shell is just way too stiff I think
That could be right. I think the Ryet’s shell is stiffer than others
I play the video on 1.5x
You need more set back for a short nose saddle.
Thanks for the idea.
I thing it’s not apple to apple comparison. Should compare with the 3D printed specialized power saddle.
That’s fair comment and Specialized Power would be a closer comparison. I love to do a comparison video if I can get a hold on it without dipping into my pocket.😅
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The way you're measuring the width of the saddles is kinda pointless as they arc downwards on the sides. The actual seating area is significantly smaller then the entire width of the saddle. If your seat bones rest on the parts which are considerably lower than the middle of the saddle, there will be way too much pressure on your perineum, which will be extremely painful on medium to long rides! That's why you should only measure the relatively flat part of the saddle. And yes, this is true for saddles with coutouts as well.
That's fair enough; each of our seatbones is shaped differently, and each saddle curve is also different. The video did not suggest everyone would fit the Ryet saddle but more or less gave the dimension as a reference point. What saddle will fit is very personal, and each cyclist should find their perfect saddle. Thanks for sharing.👍
The technology of 3D printed components is still too new for me to buy into it. The pricing is unfair because you now are eliminating some of the manual labor and getting a machine to fabricate the parts. The companies are saving money in the production but not passing that on to the consumer. I have principles. And what is the long term use going to be? Nobody can say that because they haven't been out very long. I just bought a new Berthoud Galibier saddle which has sound technology and every piece of it is replaceable which plays out as a saddle which can actually last me a life time. Once the saddle gets formed to my bottom it is said to be one of the most comfortable saddles I will ever experience. Sure there is that weight thing but the Galibier is pretty light weight, nothing like Brooks saddles. And the price? Well after everything I just said about it don't you think it's worth a high asking price. It's still far cheaper than that Fizik or a Specialized 3D printed saddle. And constructed really well. Your reviews are very good by the way, but it helps convince me I made the right choice.
I am glad you like my review. The 3D printed saddle is not for everyone and it is over priced at the moment. Over time the price should come down and be a more affordable option. Most important is the shape of the saddle fit you.
I’m glad you like your saddle.
Although in this situation, I’m pretty that your needlessly imposed values is holding you back from some of the best products in the market.
Remember, things are worth what it costs to make them; it’s worth what they are in comparison to the competitors. And currently, nothing comes close to 3D printing saddles.
@@slowcyclist4324 Oh! Like the Absolute Black over-sized pulley wheels. Give me a break. I've only been cycling for more than 40 years.
@@charlesmansplaining lol. If age was a metric for competency, you’d think to go to an old age home for advice.
I do feel sorry for you though, spending 40 years doing something just to still know nothing about it. That’s gotta be a record for time spent with no returns.
@@slowcyclist4324 That's was funny. I feel sorry for you because you target me and my comments instead of an industry who is selling garbage and poor engineering. At least my experience over those years has taught me quite a bit and you are the one who knows nothing about it. Keep throwing your hard earned dollars into cheap products sold by marketing BS if that's the way you roll, I don't care really.
Both are made in China with the same technology and the only difference is by purpose .
They have very different pricing and finishing quality.
Everything should be cheap it's 2024 if it's expensive they're gouging
To tell you the truth I have had many Fizik saddles and never liked any of them. They are extremely uncomfortable.
The Ryet is garbage. Shows you that you can’t pretend you can make a well designed saddle simply by having some printed layers. I have one and the shape is ok, but it’s hard as a rock. No advanced flex whatsoever. And the nose is too wide which can cause chafing. Not even worth the $50. I haven’t spent the $300 yet though.
The saddle is definitely on the header side of the scale, but it is ridable. I have ridden harder saddles, and the shape is most important to impact fit and comfort.
As for me the shape of Ryet does not work and it is now setting on a shelf.💩
Shape didn’t work for me either. Too wide in the nose
My 3D Ryet a different model than shown here has wore my bibs in just a few 2hr rides. Yes, it's very stiff.