Quad Intel Xeon - COMPAQ Proliant 6000 first start + inspection
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I used to manage a couple of these back in the day - 20 years or so ago. It brings back a lot of memories. It's kind of sad that yours is low-spec and missing parts, but good on you for keeping it and trying to bring it to life.
Proliants were amazing servers. I worked with quite a few of them over the years and they were practically indestructible, performant and reliable. Compaq was an incredible company. Wish they were still around.
isnt compaq just HP now a days
Yes HP bought Compaq in the early 00's.
Compaq had the most elaborate way of turning massive amounts of electrical power into fan noise! I used work with a 5U Proliant ML370 G1 and it used dual 933mhz. P-III's, 4gb. of RAM, and 6 Ultra wide 36.4GB SCSI drives. It ran Win 2K server and at the time, was the main server for a local school I worked at. It was the main domain controller and application server, and served about 25-30 networked machines total along with 2 other similar machines. They were actually pretty reliable, apart from the hot-swap SCSI drives, which seemed to be a constant source of problems.😉
Title: "Quad intel xeon"
me: "wait, why would a xeon have pci and isa slots, what the f--"
video: *Pentium III Xeon*
me: "ohhhhhhhhhhh... that makes a lot more sense."
And these were not even the first xeon's either. P2 xeons existed a couple years before this.
@@wishusknight3009 Fair point. It just probably doesn't help when it feels like the only Xeon CPU's that youtubers and tech sites have been talking about for the past decade have been the clearing house of like, lga 775 and x79 xeon chips that almost feel like you could get one free with a given board of the platform. It becomes easy to forget that anything before that actually existed.
This beast could mount up to 8GB RAM over 20 years ago! Just mind-blowing. I'm not sure if I want to know how much it would cost to max it up, though.
Probably close to a half a mil I mean ram was damn expensive back then
Not sure what type of RAM this particular rig can use but exactly 20 years ago I bought 1 GB of fast server ram, namely RDRAM which was the most expensive type back then, for the total amount of 1300 USD or about $320 per a 256MB stick. So there is no way 8GB of ANY ram would cost more that $6K only back in 1999-2001. For half a mil ( assuming you're talking about US dollars ) you could probably build a small data center of your own. And while you certainly could max a rig like this one out with RAM fast SCSI drives MOs and whatever else fits in there the biggest challenge was to max out the actual amount of that RAM and perhaps storage unless the machine was in fact used in a data center. But definitely not as a SOHO computer.
Not sure what is max amount of RAM supported. RAMs are EDO SDR (not basic SDR) and max size is 512MB per moudule. They are very rare or expensive. I have maybe 20 pieces of 256MB modules and bunch of 64/128MB ones.
@Guacamole Waffles i had a IBM system from 1994 with 2GB of ram.
Saddly dont have that system anymore.
But do have a Sun V890 fully configured , which cost about 160,000 dollars back in 2007
They were not cheap! But absolutely beautifully built.
I noticed the SAP R/3 label on the side of the computer. This brings memories! I used to be an SAP consultant/developer in the 1990s and early 2000s. I wrote many applications in SAP's own language known as ABAP for large oil firms then.
even if it looks old, it's still a amazing machine to have in collection lol
What a great era. The PIII was a generation before Intel came off the rails for the first time. They were like, "hey... we have this wonderful processor design with a super tight pipeline and the ability to expand the superscale design... let's make a processor that exactly the opposite if that and call it the P4 so our extremely loyal and strong customer base begins to lose faith in us!"
The P4 is a great example of what a product becomes when you let your marketing folks come to design meetings.
I've always loved computers that were designed to or were just plain big enough to carry their monitor and peripherals.
Вот это аппарат! Огонь стоко лет и спол оборота завелся...ни тебе отвалов ни дохлых кандеев!
Конечно, ведь если он ляжет, на кону считай репутация компании!!
Ну так и цена у этого аппарата, мягко говоря пугающая. Надежность на уровне, техника для корпоративного сегмента.
С чего быть там отвалам.Частоты маленькие нагрев не большой,И тех процес не как сейчас 10-15 нанометров,по этому и работать может вечно
@@user-zadavaika И припой не с сопли китайца как сейчас...Просто могли когда то делать качественную аппаратуру...
I worked for Verizon from 1999-2015 and we usedCompaq hardware. We used to rack 7000's and it took 4 guys.
Yes, I recall they came in a really nicely designed crate with castors fitted, the crate even had ramps! Insane! No expense spared...
Very cool and your channel has got me rebuilding some older high end rigs once again been into computers since I got my first TI99 in 1981 then started building in the pentium 3 years and AMD XP days been gaming since 81 and have a few generations of rigs rebuilt and working from windows ME,XP, 7&10
We used to run these, they are built like absolute tanks! Beautiful engineering.
I remember working on these - they were amazing servers.
This is one cool machine. Can't wait to see an update!
update is that now I have VRMs on the way
@@RETROHardware subbed :D
Man this brings back some memories. Had a pipe bust over a rack that had one of these in it during a holiday at a school admin building. In the rack mount config the top had two doors that could be opened to access the PCI slots. When we opened those two doors, it was full to the top with water, and the power supplies were still running. Needless to say we had to revert to our tape backup, but what a mess.
We had a couple of racks of these things in school to learn on and I can still hear the hard drives spin up and seek when you pushed the big power button
i used to work on these back in the day. the box they came in used to come with a wooden ramp so you could wheel your server out of the box.
Wow, lovely , you are so a fortunate!!! thank you for sharing!!!
Brings back memories, I had one of those about 20 years ago. Rebooting these for updates always made me nervous.
This brings back memories of my first IT job back in 2000. We had 2-3 Compaq Proliant 6000's, a couple of the "little" 3000's, and a 7000. I sat in the same room with them for 2-3 years. My hearing will never be the same. WHAT? Did you say something?😆
Looks like something you'd expect to see in a 90s NASA mission control center.
Good morning! And nice video.
I used to have a Dual XEON 1GHz server. I had 3-4GB of RAM in it and ran Windows 2000 Server. I used it as a Home Music Server. I remember I would leave it playing music on a loop. When I'd get home in the evening, it would still be playing the loop. I ended up replacing it with a G3 Power Mac and took it to work to use for a Gaming Server for BF2.
Beauty, i was going to be given one of these a few years ago by a friend who delt with end of life IT removals. Sadly never happend, he had a garage full of old proliants. I still want one lol.
Thanks for review this device. I first of time see industrial pc.
Bro this is awesome I used to have a Proliant sitting in my store for like 7 years but it was the light gray color HP badage made after these ones. I am a collector too.
Now that is an interesting find, I can't begin to imagine the amount of power it'd pull with all those drives plugged in. Does sound awesome with all the drives spinning up though!
That thing is an absolute monster
I used one of these as a bench chair to sit on back in 2006.... Wish I kept it it worked.
Wow! Very hot hardware from 1999! I will wait for the finish build!! I can believe that server can get 32 stick of ram!
Love the design of having the motherboard on top, right under the hood. Usually you have to unplug a computer and lay it on the side on a table to get that level of easy access for maitenence.
My first job in IT was as a config engineer and in the late 90's I built hundreds or these, and other Compaq servers, and put them in racks. I loved that job, and only stopped doing it when i was made redundant in the early 2000s. It's like seeing an old friend again.
I managed one of those at work a very very long time ago (1998). I remember it being very picky about how well those cards were inserted and it would throw errors every time we even thought about opening that case.
I love all of this deam
You are lucky to have the wheels ! These Compaqs, their Gateway counterparts (yeah-remember those?). . and Dell. . . . were such monsters to have to move around, pull for service or upgrades. There would always be the place that took at least three of them WITHOUT the rail kits and stacked them. 😄 That said - reliability was excellent ! I remember recycling so many that were in service for 10+ years !
Nice beast! I hope you can find/modify the fans and get the CPU and VRMs to max it out.
Oh man, I would totally part this thing out & use it as a case for my modern PC
Got a matched pair of Pentium 2 Xeons with the 2mb cache along with a nos board, just need to find a decent case and get around to building the rig.
Oooh! what a beauty!
ooo i love the sound of fans raring to live after all this time look at this old beet of a server what a bowtie just love it
Nice server. One of my dream =)
I have on of the next model - Compaq ProLiant ML570 G1. Already install 4x Xeon 800 and 7gb memory. Very responsible server.
What a beast! I love it! I have the smaller brother, the 2500R with dual Pentium Pro and "only" 5 HDDs.
you have more gold in it :-)
@@RETROHardware Maybe... but mine does not have wheels!
I had a Proliant 2500 I used for my websites back in the day.
I love this beast. And i want to have this beast at my home
You'll need heatsinks for the extra 2 CPUs too. They're like early Pentium II CPUs where the heatsink screws to the metal plate on the back.
I think he's probably well aware of that, lol
I have 20+ slot2 Xeons in storage with lot of heatsinks but not original like in this machine
love to see it with 4x Xeons and 4 GB of ram!!!
Custava um absurdo um servidor desse! Só pra grandes empresas. Interessante.
would love to see one of these back in production they sure can still do something even in this day and age if maxed out, could still be good for small company for webserver and website hosting
It just draws too much electricity to make sense. An atom or other economy CPU will have more computing power than those p3 xeons while drawing less electricity than a nite-light, and a $50 SSD will have more capacity and throughput than all of those old SCSI drives - while drawing significantly less power than even a single drive.
I have a 2TB Fibre Channel SAN from the 2000s, that's full of 18GB 15000 RPM drives. It's performance can rival some lower end SSDs both in terms of IOPS and MB/s. But it draws over 2kw when running.
@@PsRohrbaugh it can make sense in some applications Wich isn't just storage
I remember those things. They were later known as Gen 1 servers from Compaq. By the time Gen 2 came out, Compaq was already purchased by HP and the servers were rebranded with HP, came in dark gray but kept the Proliant name.
Thats not true, in the first place HP canceled the Compaq & famous Proliant branding completely until they realized loss in market share ☝️
I used to setup a lots of this server about 25 years ago. This used to be big honking server.
Brings back memories. It's a tank compared to today's servers. Product of the USA.
Very nice !
I would love to see an update video on this server!
SCSI drives...time for the jumper jiggle and the terminator twist.
I remember having 4 of them at our office. They did cost about 100.000 Dutch guilders, which is about 45.000 euros. The memory modules were much wider than the slots, just like the 2 in your systems. We had 3 psu’s in them (same as the Proliant 3000), 4 cpu’s and Intel Pro 100 nics which had a compatibility issue that had to be fixed with a special bios update. The did weigh a ton, so they were a the bottom of 3 of our racks. I can’t remember how much memory we had,. The good old times. Running Novell Netware. You are missing the lcd screen in the top right, where there is a metal plate.
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Loved the video man! In all your videos I am always looking what's behind you dusting away. You have so much stuff!
But to get It working you need the fans for blowing on to the motherboard? Or are there more errors?
yep I need upstairs fans to jump over error code
I'm amazed that the button cells have not ejected all their juices on the boards and frame, then proceeded to corrode everything... could still do if they are the rechargeable kind and after a little power the let their juices out...
Man that is one big computer, you can pretty much build a mini itx pc inside the powersupply of that probably lol.
Wonder how performance compared to something like today's quad core 8 gb Pi4 you can pick up for $90US.
@@quademasters249 Terrible, no doubt. But it's value today isn't in performance, but historical importance.
@@KiraSlith We're going to have to agree to disagree. To me it's just an old server. I have 6 much newer servers sitting in a stack in my office because nobody wants 10 year old servers anymore. I just can't force myself to take them to the dump yet.
@@quademasters249 I’ll take what (working well, of course) you have :-)))))
Tolles Video.
Es sind super Server.
Compaq ist mein Lieblingshersteller.
Ich habe 3x Proliant 7000 zwei verbaut in einem Rack 7142
Der eine hat 4x500Mhz Xeon und 8GB Ram der andere 4x400Mhz Xeon und 6,6GB Ram.
Sie laufen heute immer noch einwandfrei.
Ich habe auch zahlreiche Ersatzteile gesammelt damit sie noch lange funktionieren.
I hosted websites on that exact model server from 2000 to 2003ish.. I had 4GB of ram in it, but about once a month it would think a drive needed to be rebuilt and it would sit there for a day rebuilding it from the raid set - it never went down though - LOL! That was one ballzy server for the time...
amazing beast
SAP R/3, nice!
Very cool
So this is where HP got Proliant name huh
Yes, and the Proliant stuff went downhill after HP bought out Compaq sadly. They were really well made.
Wow what a beast! I and thought that my Proliant 1600 that I had many years ago was a beast, I was wrong. The 6000 must have costed a fortune when it was new, I think that the max supported ram in this beast should be atleast 4gb with all 4 cpu's installed if i'm not wrong. You can get +4gb support if u have an operating system that supports PAE (Physical address extension) 36-bit memory addressing. I love vintage computing and I always will. Hope u can get it working and find the missing fans.
Super!!!
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now that a proper pc :D
This is such a beautiful system, everything from the ram expansion boards, cartridge cpus, dual row edge connectors, up to the plastic guides for the slots. The engineering must have been a nightmare, or a dream, but one of those. I want that case. Oh ebaygods please help.
Think of how interesting modern computers would be if that form factor had been adopted.
nice monster machine :DDDD!!!!
OMG it's a monster
If you're desperate to see the fan wire pin out, I've some fans in mine and could give the dimensions of the mounts if you have a 3d printer to make your own if you can't find some...
The 580 has the same fans, if you can find one.
So, that server used to host SAP R/3 back in 2000... cool
Nice. I have an old Proliant 5500 with 4x Pentium Pro 200 CPUs, 2GB RAM and 8x 9GB 10K RPM HDDs attached to 2 RAID controllers. I had to create my own CPU fan as the original was missing. Repurposing the CPU fans should work fine. I'd say the VRMs for the CPUs will be the most difficult part. I had to find 2 for my server about 10 years ago and it wasn't easy back then. They're non standard (of course) so I couldn't use ones from other types of server.
Can you run WinXP with 4 CPUs showing there?
@@cyberluke No. XP only supports 2 sockets max, and because of a bug in the Ppro CPU, Windows 2003/XP, etc all block multi CPU with these processors. Windows 2000 sees all 4 though.
2 Slotová ATI Rage II ! To je monštrum!
The only late 90s/early 2000s machine that has enough ram to properly run Windows 10 and 11 with fast Google Chrome tabs like a modern computer.
No way. Nothing above Win7 x86 will install onto this. This is by MS design.
@@DalviqCash Hehe, I was just trying to be funny. However, 8gb of ram could handle it in theory had it not been for the OS limit.
@@albalog2449 While RAM amount is certainly enough for any modern OS the CPU would slow the whole thing down to the level of being totally unusable even in case one could somehow install 32 bit Win10 on this rig. Even a seriously outdated Debian and derivatives won't be of any use with this unless of course the version is close to 20 years old but then again what would you need that much RAM for?
@@DalviqCash Solaris 10 ? And ZFS for the file system ?
As a proof of concept? Unusable is the word. And it will be, still, even if you somehow make it run.
Imagine doing an complete overhaul on one of these systems
wow, old server monster
servers are tricky to power up , everything must be precise , I bought a brand new asus server motherboard and was unable to power it on , I disposed of it years later , it was Asus K8N DRE
This must have been a fortune back in the day.
Is that a hologram of the Xeon die on the plastic cpu case?
just wondering if the ID: is Admin then Psswd:=Administrator not sure.
I dont know the proliant name came from compaq. I always though it was a HP thing. What a beast for the time!
Que Buen Video siempre trayendo computadoras Muy Raras. En mi Opinión estaria bueno que Hables un poco mas explicando todo Seria mas entretenido mirar asi el video. De igual forma buen vídeo ojala Traduzcas mi comentario para saber que Tenes Buen material pero falta ese Toque de Ir comentando cada cosa o tu Opinión de cada Pieza que nos enseñas
thag thing is huge compared to my personal Dell PE T320
Wow this is loud!
12:16 Is that a chicken calling?
it is morning :-) ... second day
What can you actually do with it
where you keep it all?
I'm coriouse to see it maxt
But can it play Crysis if you put in a proper PCI GPU? I do know that there are various AMD 5450 DX11 GPUs for the good old PCI slot :)
And take off!
Would a Minecraft server run on the server ?
Top 1998 dream pc
woah even with hdd,s still inside
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Amazing that that VRM is just for one CPU.
after you have upgraded the system to the maximum, i.e. 4x CPU
Install Windows 7/Vista or similar. would be funny
WIN XP/7/Vista/7/8/10 doesn’t support physical 4x CPUs (only 2 ... count of cores can be million) ... only WIN Server OS like NT/2000/2003 etc. supports 4x or more CPU
@@RETROHardware oh yes right I totally forgotten.
Compaq was an amazing company for the time, it's too bad HP bought them, I wished Dell had as HP over re-engineers everything on their servers unlike Dell and Compaq, them buying Compaq really killed their image. I used to have a Compaq Proliant 5000 with two SCSI 7 bay hard drive towers. I was cool. Wish I had kept it. :( You should have probably had put the cover back on, Compaq's had a switch that detected when the cover was off that caused it shutdown, though I don't recall it throwing a fan error.
Nice video! I have a Proliant 7000 Myself with 2x 550mhz and 1.5gb ram, and there is a full video on my channel of it. You are correct though with your hypothesis. I can confirm the server will shut down automatically without BOTH of those front hot plug fans installed. Sadly I have no idea how you could run the machine without them. Maybe make a small card that can ground out the sense wires? Hope you get her running!! :)
Arduino and Czech hands can solve it :-D ...send some love and PWM
Time machine!
Imagine taking this to a LAN party
The collector part of me wants that machine. The sane part of me knows there's literally nothing useful I could do with it in my situation. At most I could do something with the HDDs.