Modu Chanyu and the Rise of the Xiongnu Empire - Han Xiongnu War 1
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- Even though the Xiongnu Confederacy had existed long before his time, Modu Chanyu was the one who made it great. This is the story of how the Xiongnu humiliated the newly established Han Dynasty and set the stage for the Han-Xiongnu war.
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Here is a bit of trivia for you all. The Turks identified Modu Chanyu to be the Oghuz Khagan due to the similarities of their stories. Oghuz Khagan is believed to be the father of the Turkic peoples and the Turkish Army considers Modu to be the founder of the Turkish army.
Pretty cool piece of trivia
@Nom Anor No he meant Turkic steppe people including Kazakh, Kyrgyz, or some of Mongols etc...
You should do a episode of Cao Cao during the end of the Han Dynasty From what I was reading Pretty Kool guy so wont spoil his story Your art work with the story telling really works so ill let you Bro's come up with something
You have great content that is being ruined by all the adds that UA-cam is throwing at viewers. 5 Ad interruptions in the first 8 minutes of this video!
@@voidconsumer discordun var mı
Liu Bang is a perfect goofy anime protagonist
he is truly blessed by the gods though...he escaped death multiple times
@@lyhthegreat can't say the same for the people who got killed by him and his wife.
@@condorX2 yeah but you can't rule a country just by being benevolent...if anything, liubang is not known to be an upright man considering how he backstabbed xiangyu to obtain his throne.
@@lyhthegreat Xiang Yu betrayed him first by dishonerably seiging him down and trying to seize him when chu and han were specifically in a ceasefire and signing a treaty to divide china north and south through the Yangze under the poisonous whispers of his advisors who are thought to have said "Liu Bang is here why not take him by surprise and kill him right now ? Heaven knows if you kill liu Bang right now the entire kingdom is yours to rule !". And the Chinese people have the pig headed brains of Xiang Yu to thank for almost having the whole south of former Qin but throwing it all away for some stupid high risk high reward gamble .
Liu Bang uniting china was the best thing to ever happen to the middle kingdom wherein the name of his dynasty "han" is still the name for ethnic chinese to this day.
Later the Yuezhi people were hellenised by the Alexander's descendants and even built the Kushan Empire. Greek culture and Graeco Buddhism thrives in the Kushan Empire.
Yeah, the steppe nomads were just incredibly diverse and they were very open to new ideas. Previous historians were trying too hard to pin down their ethnicity and it just led to too many dead ends. It took them a while until they realised that ideas and cultures are not defined by ethnicity.
There was also a theory that only language migrated and peoole less. I guess we have to stop looking out of our nowaday nationalistic perspective. Peoole back then were more pragmatic
Yes they adopted strong part Hellenistic culture but with time they were more Indianised. Major part of Kushan empire was in ancient Indian territories included mordern day areas of mordern Afghanistan, pakistan and large part of northen India.Many kushan kings supported Mahayana buddhism. The greatest king of kushan Kanishka I was great promoter Buddhism. Hinduism was also other major religion kushan supported. They also adopted some part Zoroastrian part.
Kujula Kadphises the founder kushan empire who adopted greek religious Ideas but is said to be also a devotee of Shiva ( Hindu God).
One of the name used by some kushan kings was Vasudeva a pure sanskrit name.
Hephtalite were Hun
@@middleeastrenwarriormen1017 They were Iranian, the Chinese Morkians said they were Iranian
"cheated, lied and conned his way into becoming the first emperor of the Han dynasty"
Those are both pragmatic and morally acceptable methods
Makes sense that Xiang Yu was as tough as Lu Bu, they are played by the same actor
Another amazing content :))
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209 b.c is Establishment year of Turkish land forces, crown year of mo-du chanyu we call him Mete Han. we still use his name in Turkey. you can see lots of people named Mete Han here
@@steppe7214 i think you know nothing about turkic history. Turkish people are from oghuz tribe(one of the turkic tribe).They migrated to anatolia(turkey) from central asia in 11. century. lol
@@enderkurnaz8344 Yeah, that's true. No one is opposing that.
But Turkics of that era is much more closer to Mongols and Kazakhs compared to today's Turkish.
With such quality I am genuinely surprised you don't have faaar more subscribers. This is the perfect fusion of great animation, great entertainment and great education. UA-cam should recommend you to people, I only found out about you through a collaboration with another channel that you did, although I forgot what that was
The Great Blue Heaven be praised, the fierceful Xiongnu have finally arrived from the steppes!
@Nom Anor Yes. They did.
It's a pity Xiang Yu didn't work together with Liu bang.
They could conquer the world.
Jk.. I wanaa see how it playout.
An earlier date for the separation of proto-Turkic, preceding 209 BC would support the identification of Xiongnu language with proto-Bulgharic or one of its subgroups, while a later date of separation would make its association with proto-Turkic more plausible.
Alexander Savelyev, Martine Robbeets, Bayesian phylolinguistics infers the internal structure and the time-depth of the Turkic language family, Journal of Language Evolution, Volume 5, Issue 1, January 2020
proto-“bulgaric”? 😂 When will Bulgarians slavs stop the pseudo-history bullsh*t? There is no “proto-bulgaric”, Bulgars were a Turkic tribe that spoke Turkic that later got assimilated by the southern slavs in the Balkans.
your becoming my favourite youtube channel! thanks :) so much of asian history isnt covered in Europe, its all new to me!
It's heaven
feel's bad, when you hear about a particularly talented chinese general and you know how it's probably going to end for him... RIP han xin
Damn CJ, these videos are geat! Im, again, officially hooked on these...
BTW, would you care to ask Mr UA-cam to give you back the password from “Dont stop thinking”? Im starting to miss your videos there...
Ha ha... one day. When I have a new project to announce.
great video as always, i love hearing about the dramas of the early han.
Modu Chanyu (Mete Han)
is the Ancestor of us Turks.
@sneksnekitsasnek What's the relevance?
Brother no matter what at the end of the day all turks, mongols, khazaks, etc all relate back to the all mighty great xiongnu empier
@sneksnekitsasnek Xiongnu is Turkic
@@Ottoman1517 Xiongnu is as video mentioned ascendants of many steppe tribes.
So Xiongnu is both Turkic and Mongolic.
But tbh, Turkics of that era is more closer to Mongols than Turkish tho.
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
only the Turkic Gaoju origin of the Hephthalites should be retained as indicative of their primary ethnicity.[82]
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu
"
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.[18][19]
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.[84][85]
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).[86]
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties[87] and the Book of Zhou,[88] an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.[89][90]
Tiele are originally Xiongnu's splinter stocks. As Tujue are strong and prosperous, all Tiele districts (郡) are divided and scattered, the masses gradually dwindled and weakened. Until the beginning of Wude [era], there have been Xueyantuo, Qibi, Huihe, Dubo, Guligan, Duolange, Pugu, Bayegu, Tongluo, Hun, Sijie, Huxue, Xijie, Adie, Baixi, etc. scattered in the northern wastelands.
- Jiu Tangshu, 199, lower
Thank you very much for the detailed history of the Xiongnu and the Han Empire. The maps and graphics indeed help to enhance the understanding of your content. Keep up the fantastic research and the presentation.
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak. -Sun Tzu
You'd think Liu Bang would know better.
Bro , you have great detail comprehensive knowledge of ancient China history
Thank you for the video. It fills a much needed niche here on the Internet, with its detailed narrations of Ancient Chinese History, there is no channel like this. It is a matter of time before the algorithm clicks and this starts getting hundreds of thousands of views.
There is a part of the story I would like a bit more of explanation about. The part regarding Liu Bang bribing Modu's wife to escape the blockade. What could Liu Bang have offered to her for she to do something as extreme as helping the emperor of the enemy nation escape? Was it only riches or was it something else?
On the other hand, how did she convince Modu to relax the blockade, to do such a disadvantegous military maneuver? What excuse could she have given?
I am really curious about it, if someone knows I would be honestly grateful for an answer.
Have a wonderful day.
Actually there are more details that didn't make it into the final script for the sake of brevity. Hanxin's men, which were supposed meet up with Modu failed to come and Modu was suspicious of their betrayal. Also, Liu Bang was a popular leader. They figured that they might not be able to hold onto the land even if they killed Liu Bang.
I think they know that the sedentary population would be difficult to rule for a nomadic empire and preferred to acquire the goods rather than directly ruling them.
This is the best Chinese history channel in English. May it continue to grow
I love the parts when the Han sent random Chinese women as “princesses” to the Huns, Xiongnu, Mongols and no one found out lol
Most of the one sent were mostly distant relatives of the royal family and sometimes servant disguise as a princess. So it wasnt a loss.😂
I really like your channel. The effort you guys put into it is absolutely admirable. I do, however, have a request - would you in the future please add the Chinese names (scripts) of the characters and geographic locations, dynasties etc in your video (instead of just pinyin) as it would make the stories so much easier to follow for us who grew up as a kid learning all these history in Chinese ( Cantonese, in particular)? Also, I think it would also be more interesting if you'd mention the present day locations of some of the geography in your videos, for example, say, " The Xiongnu Empire covered what is today's Mongolia, Southern Russia, Turkmenistan..." Thank you and wish you all the best.
Anotha Banger Keep it up!!
The Gaoche are probably remnants of the ancient Red Di. Initially they had been called Dili. Northerners take them as Chile. Chinese take them as Gaoche Dingling. Their language, in brief, and Xiongnu [language] are the same yet occasionally there are small differences. Or one may say that they [Gaoche] are the junior relatives[18] of the Xiongnu in former times.
The Gaoche migrate in search of grass and water. They dress in skins and eat meat. Their cattle and sheep are just like those of the Rouran, but the wheel of their carts are high and have very many spokes.
- Weishu, 103
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu”
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.
Weishu, Vol. 102 "其風俗言語與高車同,而其人清潔於胡。俗剪髮齊眉,以醍醐塗之,昱昱然光澤,日三澡漱,然後飲食。"
*Kyzlasov, L . R. (1 January 1996). "Northern Nomads". In Litvinsky, B. A. (ed.). History of Civilizations of Central Asia: The crossroads of civilizations, A.D. 250 to 750. UNESCO. pp. 310-320. ISBN 9231032119.
@@SaklikoyDayi The Xiongnu are originally a Scythian-Saka group of tribes, related to the ancient Cimmerians, Alans etc... However there is a strong evidence that the proto-Xiongnu absorbed the remnants of the Xia-dynasty and some part of the ancestors of the Chinese people! In late times the Xiongnu also absorbed Kettic-Yeniseian and Samoyedic tribes or fragments!
I really respect your efforts. Can you please do a video on Lin Zexu? I am really interested in this personality but there is not enough information in English sources.
Great engaging videos! Thanks for sharing knowledge of East Asian history.
It will be quite a while before I get there. But I will definitely cover him one day.
Modu Chanyu was of Turkic Origin.
He is also known as Oguz Kagan the legendary father of the turks.
Possible Turkic origin. There is no conclusive prove for now.
@@voidconsumer You know, countries also try to own the history for their countries' or ethnics' benefits if that historical event was great.
For example, communist China do this in a very big scale.
Let's say those certain things.
1. Xiongnu is from today's Mongol land. Not from today's Turkish land.
2. After the fall of Xiongnu empire, some royal family and their tribes FLED to today's turkish land and mixed with that place's native people. So how can today's Turkey can be direct descendants of Xiongnu if the CORE initial was in Mongol land?
3. And your dna link says:
"They also found DNA sequences similar to those in present-day Turks"
Nothing about, we couldn't find Mongolian DNA. It's just they didn't mention about Mongolian DNA.
"DNA from a 2,000-year-old burial site in MONGOLIA has revealed new information about the Xiongnu"
"supporting the idea that SOME OF TURKISH people ORIGINATED in MONGOLIA".
Also in my OPINION. Xiongnu looked more closer to mongols than today's turkish people.
Because it's 2000 years have passed since those people left their home land and mixed with native people of reached land of that era.
And I read most of your sources and comments. It seems you're believing that Xiongnu tribes never been married to other steppe tribes which I find very unlikely.
Because in the steppe customs you had to be married with distant tribe person to prevent inbreed.
300 years Xiongnu were on Mongol land. And it's the first ever history proven country that has been on Mongol land. Even tho, we Mongolians believe there were a country even before Xiongnu empire
In that 300 years, royals and peasants have been living on Mongol land. Even after Xiongnu empire has fallen, majority of Xiongnu people still lived on Mongol land, and married with other steppe tribes.
So I'd say.
Both Mongols and Turks are descendants of Xiongnu.
It's not just Turks. Mongols, Kazakhs and Uigurs are all descendants of Xiongnu.
I just don't like people try to own the historical just for them while it's in fact never like that.
It's like saying Vikings are only Swedish, while Vikings are from whole Scandinavia instead of just Sweden.
@@voidconsumer Many people think it was ONLY TurkISH instead of TurkIC tho. That pisses me off.
Also I appreciate on how you talk about and quote from historical papers.
But I fail to see reply to my points from them.
So I'm gonna ask these questions just to clarify my point.
After the fall of Xiongnu empire, how many percents of Xiongnu people moved to west?
And why do you think people who remained there isn't from Xiongnu ethnic? If Xiongnu people had children and remained there, would that make them not Xiongnu?
Do you really think in that 300 years, there were no intermix between tribes?
DNA tests were mainly to point-out to Turkic and Turkish genetics, but have you seen some papers on how it compared to the Mongolian genetics?
@@voidconsumer Mode Chanyu have nothing to do with Oghuz Khan. BUT YES MODE CHANYU AND THE HUNS ARE TURKIC LIKE THE SCYTHIANS. SOME KIDS AR3 DREAMING
Yok lan deil oğuz kağan başka metehan mo-tu başka
i really love how you guys present chinese history this way, makes me feel like the topic my canadian history teachers tend to miss or not truly understand when i was young (heck they don't even know much about indigenous culture so it is what it was). but in all honesty history is too big of a topic for one person to be a master of
bro this is not Chinese history. You must do more researches about the Xiongnu Empire. They did so many wars with Chinese and Modu Chanyu (or with its Turkish referance Mete Han) is known as father of Turkish army.
@@vitocorleone6105 *Turkic/Turk not "Turkish".
@@vitocorleone6105 xiongnu were mongolian not Turkic, the Turks were similar to Mongolians but were more east in the kayak region.
This is an excellent channel. History is amazing. I am interested to know what happened to the Xiongnu. Where did they do? They couldn't just vanish into the thin air.
Today's Hungary
Modern Hungary, Finland, Bulgaria, Turkic countries, Mongolia.
DNA from a 2,000-year-old burial site in Mongolia has revealed new information about the Xiongnu, a nomadic tribe that once reigned in Central Asia. Researchers in France studied DNA from more than 62 skeletons to reconstruct the history and social organization of a long-forgotten culture.
The researchers found that interbreeding between Europeans and Asians occurred much earlier than previously thought. They also found DNA sequences similar to those in present-day Turks, supporting the idea that some of the Turkish people originated in Mongolia.
Skeletons from the most recent graves also contained DNA sequences similar to those in people from present-day Turkey. This supports other studies indicating that Turkish tribes originated at least in part in Mongolia at the end of the Xiongnu period.
Keyser-Tracqui, C., et al. Nuclear and mitochondrial DNA analysis of a 2,000-year-old necropolis in the Egyin Gol Valley of Mongolia. American Journal of Human Genetics73, 247-260 (August 2003).
we had no doubt about it and now it is also confirmed via Dna researches.
Turkey hahaha you are funny greek man, turkey are greeks and arminians they were invaded and turkified by few oguz tribes less than 12 % of the population of turkey are turks, and there no evidence that the xiongnu were turks its just a mere speculation nothing more
@@egriz4461 keep crying about constantinople greek man
@@shrektheintelllectual3615 Sometimes the truth is hard.
@@refl1x362 yes, reality is so hard that you can't even digest DNA studies
Xiongnu is Turkic:
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu”
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.
Weishu, Vol. 102 "其風俗言語與高車同,而其人清潔於胡。俗剪髮齊眉,以醍醐塗之,昱昱然光澤,日三澡漱,然後飲食。"
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.
Linghu Defen et al., Book of Zhou, Vol. 50. (in Chinese)
Li Yanshou (李延寿), History of the Northern Dynasties, Vol. 99. (in Chinese)
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).
The Gaoche are probably remnants of the ancient Red Di. Initially they had been called Dili. Northerners take them as Chile. Chinese take them as Gaoche Dingling. Their language, in brief, and Xiongnu [language] are the same yet occasionally there are small differences. Or one may say that they [Gaoche] are the junior relatives[18] of the Xiongnu in former times.
The Gaoche migrate in search of grass and water. They dress in skins and eat meat. Their cattle and sheep are just like those of the Rouran, but the wheel of their carts are high and have very many spokes.
- Weishu, 103
The forebears of the Tiele belonged to those Xiongnu descendants, having the largest divisions of tribes. They occupied the valleys, and were scattered across the vast region west of the Western Sea [Black Sea]
At the area north of the Duluo River, are the Bugu (僕骨), Tongluo (同羅), Weihe (韋紇),[17] Bayegu (拔也古), Fuluo (覆羅), which were all called Sijin (Irkin). Other tribes such as Mengchen (蒙陳), Turuhe (吐如紇), Sijie (斯結),[a] Hun (渾), Hu (斛), Xue (薛) (or Huxue) and so forth, also dwelled in this area. They had a 20,000 strong invincible army.
[...]
The names of these tribes differ, but all of them can be classified as Tiele. The Tiele do not have a master, but are subjected to the both Eastern and Western Tujue (Göktürks) respectively. They don't have a permanent residence, and move with the changes of grass and water. - Suishu, 84
no
average panturanist
Fantastic!
Thanks, and thank you for the coffee too, Harold.
You are welcome!
They are Turks
The term Turkic represents a broad ethno-linguistic group of peoples including existing societies such as Altai, Azerbaijanis, Balkars, Bashkirs, Chuvashes, Crimean Karaites, Gagauz, Karachays, Karakalpaks, Kazakhs, Khakas, Krymchaks, Kyrgyz people, Nogais, Qashqai, Tatars, Turkmens, Turkish people, Tuvans, Uyghurs, Uzbeks, and Yakuts and as well as ancient and medieval states such as Dingling, Bulgars, Alat, Basmyl, Onogurs, Shatuo, Chuban, Göktürks, Oghuz Turks, Kankalis, Khazars, Khiljis, Kipchaks, Kumans, Karluks, Bahri Mamluks, Ottoman Turks, Seljuk Turks, Tiele, Timurids, Turgeshes, Yenisei Kirghiz, and Huns, Tuoba, and Xiongnu.[24][25][26][27][28]
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
only the Turkic Gaoju origin of the Hephthalites should be retained as indicative of their primary ethnicity.[82]
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu
"
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.[18][19]
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.[84][85]
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).[86]
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties[87] and the Book of Zhou,[88] an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.[89][90]
Tiele are originally Xiongnu's splinter stocks. As Tujue are strong and prosperous, all Tiele districts (郡) are divided and scattered, the masses gradually dwindled and weakened. Until the beginning of Wude [era], there have been Xueyantuo, Qibi, Huihe, Dubo, Guligan, Duolange, Pugu, Bayegu, Tongluo, Hun, Sijie, Huxue, Xijie, Adie, Baixi, etc. scattered in the northern wastelands.
- Jiu Tangshu, 199, lower
Collisions and trade with the Xiongnu , fierce Turkic-speaking nomads of the north and west, began in the life- time of Confucius.
“The Emergence of an International System in East Asia.” East Asia at the Center: Four Thousand Years of Engagement with the World, by WARREN I. COHEN, Columbia University Press, NEW YORK, 2000, pp. 1-61.
which is about the Han Dynasty general Su Wu, who was captured in 100 b.c. while on a diplomatic mission to the Xiongnu , a Turkic clan in central Asia.
“FROM LUN ON AND LUN HOP TO THE GREAT CHINA THEATER, 1922-1925.” Chinatown Opera Theater in North America, by Nancy Yunhwa Rao, University of Illinois Press, Urbana; Chicago; Springfield, 2017, pp. 152-184.
The principal invaders in the north were no longer the Turkic Xiongnu , whose confederation had broken up
“Reunification in the Buddhist Age.” China: A New History, Second Enlarged Edition, by John King Fairbank and Merle Goldman, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts; London, England, 2006, pp. 72-87.
They aii belong to the Yugus branch of the western Xiongnu group of the Turkic languages, which are part of the Altaic language family.
“The Frontier Ground and Peoples of Northwest China.” Familiar Strangers: A History of Muslims in Northwest China, by JONATHAN N. LIPMAN, University of Washington Press, SEATTLE; LONDON, 1997, pp. 3-23.
Prof. Dr. Nicola Di Cosmo in: The Turks: Early ages, Part 4. Huns (Xiongnu): The Origin and Rise of the Xiongnu Empire, Y. T., 2002, pp.217-227, University of Michigan, ISBN 9756782552, 9789756782552
"There is not much doubt among historians about the Turkish nature of the Great Hun Empire, which ruled between 318 B.C. and 216 A.D., as well as that of its predecessor proto-Huns, whose presence was confirmed by Chinese sources. The Great Hun Empire, the Western Hun Empire and especially the European Huns were examined comprehensively by Western historians."
Land conl icts were also a factor in the frequent clashes from the third century BC onwards between the Chinese Qin and Han Dynasties and the alliance of Turkic nomads, called the Xiongnu people. In the third century BC, the Xiongnu bordered the northwest frontier of Chinese imperial lands, and controlled many of the key trading centers along the land-based routes of the Silk Roads all the way to the Caucasus Mountains.
Barbier, E. (2010). The Rise of Cities (from 3000 BC to 1000 AD). In Scarcity and Frontiers: How Economies Have Developed Through Natural Resource Exploitation (pp. 84-156). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/CBO9780511781131.004
It was the Hsiung-nu, a Turkic tribe , who first exerted pressure on the Chinese rulers in the north by capturing Lo-yang in 311 and Ch'ang-an in 316. From this period on, north China was under the sway of non- Chinese rulers.
“INITIAL CONTACT AND RESPONSE: BUDDHISM UNDER THE EASTERN CHIN DYNASTY.” Buddhism in China: A Historical Survey, by KENNETH K. S. CH’EN, Princeton University Press, PRINCETON, NEW JERSEY, 1964, pp. 57-93.
In the early times Turkic tribes in Syberia were more Caucasoid, without east Asia admixture. Here we have evidences about it.
_Austrian turkologist Otto Maenchen-Helfen:_
"Bronze in a British museum from the Ordos region, which for a long time was under the rule of Xiongnu,
*shows us a Caucasoid, we note thick mustaches and wide open eyes... *
_A double burial in a desert region north of Minefeng is quite eloquent. Polychrome silk, jackets, pants, stockings, and shoes are the same as in Noin-Ula. But the person depicted on the fabric has distinctly Caucasoid features. The buried couple also represents the Caucasoids... _
_Liu Yuan, the Xiongnu conqueror of Luoyang in 311, had a height of 184cm; in his long beard were red hair... _
_After the conquest of the territory of Tuva by the Xiongnu in the second century BC, its population, which was mixed with the preponderance of the Caucasoid features, became not less, but more Caucasoid". _
[Otto J. Maenchen-Helfen. The World of the Huns - Berkeley-Los Angeles-London: University of California Press, 1973 - p.370, 371-372, 373, 374]
Kanka ben çince bilmiyomda ne diyo bu lavuklar hun filan diyoda kötü bisey demiyorlar degilmi
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
only the Turkic Gaoju origin of the Hephthalites should be retained as indicative of their primary ethnicity.[82]
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu
"
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.[18][19]
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.[84][85]
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).[86]
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties[87] and the Book of Zhou,[88] an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.[89][90]
Tiele are originally Xiongnu's splinter stocks. As Tujue are strong and prosperous, all Tiele districts (郡) are divided and scattered, the masses gradually dwindled and weakened. Until the beginning of Wude [era], there have been Xueyantuo, Qibi, Huihe, Dubo, Guligan, Duolange, Pugu, Bayegu, Tongluo, Hun, Sijie, Huxue, Xijie, Adie, Baixi, etc. scattered in the northern wastelands.
- Jiu Tangshu, 199, lower
2:05 I do not know exactly when, but there was report later collected by Chinese Dynasty that some of southeastern Korean peninsula population was diaspora originated from northern China(?) due to Qin Shi Huang. Maybe it is related to this. There's Xiongnu culture influence within SIlla, which is very weird.
The principal invaders in the north were no longer the Turkic Xiongnu , whose confederation had broken up but a nomadic proto- Mongol people known as the Xianbei, who set up states in Gansu on the west and Hebei and Shandong on the east.
“Reunification in the Buddhist Age.” China: A New History, Second Enlarged Edition, by John King Fairbank and Merle Goldman, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts; London, England, 2006, pp. 72-87.
Whenever I think of the Xiongnu I automatically think of Shan Yu from Mulan.
Because he's based on Modu Chan Yu.
I've seen Modu Chan Yu's picture /imaginary of course/ being as exactly same as Shan Yu from Mulan even before Mulan is released.
So I thought they took his design from that picture. But I can't find it from anywhere.
Oh btw two things came from his shoulders are actually tails of wolves or foxes.
@@bxyhxyh Yep! And I say Tengri bless Disney for doing that! (well sorta...)
This can be surmised by analysing the names of Hunnic princes and tribes. The names of the following Hunnic princes are clearly Oghuric Turkic in origin: Mundzuk (Attila’s father, from Turkic Muncˇuq = pearl/jewel; for an in-depth discussion of the Hunnic origin of this name in particular see Schramm (1969), 139-40), Oktar/Uptar (Attila’s uncle, Öktär = brave/powerful), Oebarsius (another of Attila’s paternal uncles, Aïbârs = leopard of the moon), Karaton (Hunnic supreme king before Ruga, Qarâton = black-cloak), Basik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, early fifth century, Bârsig˘ = governor), Kursik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, from either Kürsig˘ , meaning brave or noble, or Quršiq meaning beltbearer). For these etymologies see Bona (1991), 33. Three of Attila’s known sons 40 have probable Turkic names: Ellac, Dengizich, Hernak, and Attila’s princi pal wife, the mother of the ‘crown prince’ Ellac, has the Turkic name Here kan, as does another notable wife named Eskam. See Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 392-415. See also Bona (1991), 33-5, and Pritsak (1956), 414. Most known Hunnic tribal names are also Turkic, Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 427-41, e.g. Ultincur, Akatir etc. The cur suffix in many of these names is a well-known Turkic title and as Beckwith (1987), 209, points out the To-lu or Tardus tribes (Hunnic in origin) of the Western Turkish On Oq were each headed by a Cur (noble). Zieme (2006), 115, speculates that the title cur belongs to a pre-Turkic Tocharian stratum of the Turkic language, which, if true, again highlights the essential heterogeneity of Central Asian peoples and even languages. See also Aalto (1971), 35. In addition to this primary language (Oghuric Turkic), Priscus informs us that Latin and Gothic were also understood by the Hunnic elite. See Priscus, fr. 13.3, Blockley (1983), 289.
Mclaughlin, Professors Hyun & Lieu, Rome and China: Points of Contact (Routledge, 2021)
Lu Bu ? Not as powerful ? That is a powerful statement .
As this time depth coincides with the beginning of the Xiongnu empire (209 BCE-100 CE), the association of Xiongnu with Proto-Bulgharic does not seem unreasonable. However, given the relatively large credible interval involved in the Bayesian dating, the breakup of proto-Turkic may also be connected with the first disintegration of the Xiongnu confederation under influence of the military successes of the Chinese in 127-119 BCE (Mudrak 2009). In sum, the time depth of the breakup of Proto-Turkic can be estimated between 500 BCE and 100 CE.
Martine Robbeets, Remco Bouckaert, Bayesian phylolinguistics reveals the internal structure of the Transeurasian family, Journal of Language Evolution, Volume 3, Issue 2, July 2018
modun chanyu turk 😍🇹🇷🏹🏹🐺🇹🇷
@@Tarihmerkezi81 Mongolian, not Turk. Not everyone is Turk
@@DimitarFCBM TURK 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🏹🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🏹
@@DimitarFCBMkeep crying Xiong Nu was the Ancestor of Turks
@@korkufilmleriscarymovies2283mongols
In the case of Early Pre-Proto-Mongolic, certain loanwords in the Mongolic languages point to early contact with Oghur (Pre-Proto-Bulgaric) Turkic, also known as r-Turkic. These loanwords precede Common Turkic (z-Turkic) loanwords and include:
• Mongolic ikere (twins) from Pre-Proto-Bulgaric ikir (versus Common Turkic ekiz)
• • Mongolic hüker (ox) from Pre-Proto-Bulgaric hekür (Common Turkic öküz)
• Mongolic jer (weapon) from Pre-Proto-Bulgaric jer (Common Turkic yäz)
• • Mongolic biragu (calf) versus Common Turkic buzagu
• Mongolic siri- (to smelt ore) versus Common Turkic siz- (to melt)
• The above words are thought to have been borrowed from Oghur Turkic during the time of the Xiongnu.
Other scholars such as de la Vaissière, based on a recent reappraisal of the Chinese sources, suggest that the Hephthalites were initially of Turkic origin, and later adopted the Bactrian language, first for administrative purposes, and possibly later as a native language; according to Rezakhani (2017), this thesis is seemingly the "most prominent at present".[59][60][61]
ly the Turkic Gaoju origin of the Hephthalites should be retained as indicative of their primary ethnicity.[82]
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu"
Joseph T. Arlinghaus referred to a Syriac chronicle from c. 555 CE, which mentions Khulas, Abdel, and Ephthalite as three of the nomadic tribes from the "lands of the Huns."
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@@meraj.M This can be surmised by analysing the names of Hunnic princes and tribes. The names of the following Hunnic princes are clearly Oghuric Turkic in origin: Mundzuk (Attila's father, from Turkic Muncuq pearl/jewel; for an in-depth discussion of the Hunnic origin of this name in particular see Schramm (1969), 139-40), Oktar/Uptar (Attila's uncle, Öktär =brave/powerful), Oebarsius (another of Attila's paternal uncles, Aïbârs= leopard of the moon), Karaton (Hunnic supreme king before Ruga, Qarâton = black-cloak), Basik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, early fifth century, Bârsig" = governor), Kursik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, from either Kürsig, meaning brave or noble, or Quršiq meaning beltbearer). For these etymologies see Bona (1991), 33. Three of Attila's known sons 40 have probable Turkic names: Ellac, Dengizich, Hernak, and Attila's princi pal wife, the mother of the 'crown prince' Ellac, has the Turkic name Here kan, as does another notable wife named Eskam. See Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 392-415. See also Bona (1991), 33-5, and Pritsak (1956), 414. Most known Hunnic tribal. names are also Turkic, Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 427-41, e.g. Ultincur, Akatir etc. The cur suffix in many of these names is a well-known Turkic title and as Beckwith (1987), 209, points out the To-lu or Tardus. tribes (Hunnic in origin) of the Western Turkish On Oq were each headed by a Cur (noble). Zieme (2006), 115, speculates that the title cur belongs to a pre-Turkic.Tocharian stratum of the Turkic language, which, if true, again highlights the essential heterogeneity of Central Asian peoples and even languages. See also Aalto (1971), 35. In addition to this primary language (Oghuric Turkic), Priscus informs us that Latin and Gothic were also understood by the Hunnic elite. See Priscus, fr. 13.3, Blockley (1983), 289.
Mclaughlin, Professors Hyun & Lieu, Rome and China: Points of Contact (Routledge, 2021)
To not be confused with the General Han Xin and Han Xin King of Haan, Vietnamese we usually called them Hàn Tín (Han Xin) and Hàn Vương Tín (Xin, King of Han), respectively.
Xiong-nu language in Chinese inscriptions
撑犁 (Chēng lí)
撑犁 term in Chinese inscriptions is associated with the old Turkic tengri. Tengri means sky.
瓯脱 (Ōu tuō)
瓯脱 means room[7].
Borrowed from Proto-Turkic *otag[8], also reconstructed as *ōtag. Although linguists concentrate on *otag, since long vowels are not preserved in languages that need to be protected, there are also those who claim that it is derived from the Proto-Turkic word *ōtwhich means fire(see Proto-Turkic Vocabulary lesson). *otag means tent or room, but also fireplace is suggested.
头曼 (Tóu màn)
The name Touman is likely related to a word meaning '10,000, a myriad' Old Turkic tümän
Dur-mak= to keep being present/there (~to remain/~to survive)
thurur =permanent
bokha-thor> boğatur >bahadır=hero>
Boğatur> Baatur> Modu
Xiong-nu = Kün-oglu = Sun's son = Son of the sun
Shan-yu =(Şanlı) Şan-luw = he got a glory /fame
Chenk-li =(Cenkli) Cenk-aluw = (he's won war) = victory
The Xiongnu became politically dominant in the steppes around 300
BC, and although the linguistic affiliation of the Xiongnu proper is still a matter of dispute, their political confederation certainly contained a significant Turkic component. By both ethnohistorical and linguistic considerations this component may in the first place be identified with the Bulgharic (Bulghar Turkic) branch of Turkic, today represented by the Chuvash language in the Volga region.
The Turkic component of the Xiongnu is, however, unambiguously signalled by a number of Bulgharic loanwords in Proto-Samoyedic, such as *yür 'hundred'. The Bulgharic (Proto-Bulgharic) speakers are likely to have entered Southern Siberia , the location of Proto-Samoyedic , not earlier than the last century BC. At the same time, a number of local words, notably *kadï 'conifer' (> Chuvash xïra„ ~ xïr 'birch '), were borrowed from Proto-Samoyedic into Bulgharic.Review: J. Janhunen (ed.),The Mongolic languages, London, New York : Routledge, 2003
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@@JieShuShuai he is lying
Xiongnu or Hunnic empire is ancient proto Mongolic empire. They capital city found in central Mongolia.
They were Turkic not mongolian
@@gencoozen1192How do you know they both look the same? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Xiongnu capital "ötüken" and ötüken all Turks and all turkic holy capital
@@Cinar_95 To the Huns, they used to enslave the Turks, when did they love the Turks?
Later Turkic peoples in Mongolia all spoke forms of Common Turkic (z-Turkic) as opposed to Oghur (Bulgharic) Turkic, which withdrew to the west in the 4th century. The Chuvash language, spoken by 1 million people in European Russia, is the only living representative of Oghur Turkic which split from Proto Turkic around the 1st century AD.
Words in Mongolic like dayir (brown, Common Turkic yagiz) and nidurga (fist, Common Turkic yudruk) with initial *d and *n versus Common Turkic *y are sufficiently archaic to indicate loans from an earlier stage of Oghur (Pre-Proto-Bulgaric). This is because Chuvash and Common Turkic do not differ in these features despite differing fundamentally in rhotacism-lambdacism (Janhunen 2006). Oghur tribes lived in the Mongolian borderlands before the 5th century, and provided Oghur loanwords to Early Pre-Proto-Mongolic before Common Turkic loanwords.
Golden 2011, p. 31.
every video of that includes liu bang, "was a peasant scoundrel............." 😂
Interesting fact, Modu’s arrival date at the head of the Xiongnu (Eastern Hun Confederacy) is considered by the Turkish Land Force as the official date of birth of the Turkish Army …
The discipline, the mindset and the organization is still operating in the modern Turkish army in different shape
Stupid he was enslaving the Turks because they are allied with the Aryans in western Mongolia 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Most Royal families are in my tree. House of Wessex met Charlemagne who met House of Arpad and through them it goes through the Huns and into the Xiongnu and into the Maternal line of the Chinese Han Dynasty. ALL or most European nobility have Han Chinese Royal maternal lineage.
And I thought CK2 was too far of a stretch
Which Nation history is this?
In Mongolia there is a monument that has 3 pillars;
First for xiangnu empire
Second for Turkic khaganate
Third for Mongol empire of genghis khan
Where are the Iranian Scythians and the Uyghurs?
@@user-xu9ji4dd4e Scythians never had a unified Empire they were a loose confederation of tribes each independent of each other.
@@user-xu9ji4dd4e Uyghur empire wasnt as large as the three listed....
It’s his cooler to raid than buying
The first time in history was the Asian Hun ruler Mete Han who gathered the Turks under a flag. Get There !!
"As the Turkish child gets to know his ancestors, he will find strength in himself to do greater things." * Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
Are you Greek, Romanian, or Georgian, like Erdogan?
@@user-xu9ji4dd4e Not all Turks mixed with them. There is too many Yoruk (Turkmens), Tatars live in Turkey
Prof. Dr. Nicola Di Cosmo in: The Turks: Early ages, Part 4. Huns (Xiongnu): The Origin and Rise of the Xiongnu Empire, Y. T., 2002, pp.217-227, University of Michigan, ISBN 9756782552, 9789756782552
"There is not much doubt among historians about the Turkish nature of the Great Hun Empire, which ruled between 318 B.C. and 216 A.D., as well as that of its predecessor proto-Huns, whose presence was confirmed by Chinese sources. The Great Hun Empire, the Western Hun Empire and especially the European Huns were examined comprehensively by Western historians."
Proponents of a Turkic language theory include E.H. Parker, Jean-Pierre Abel-Rémusat, Julius Klaproth, Kurakichi Shiratori, Gustaf John Ramstedt, Annemarie von Gabain, and Omeljan Pritsak.[13] Some sources say the ruling class was proto-Turkic.[12][82] Craig Benjamin sees the Xiongnu as proto-Turks who possibly spoke a language related to the Dingling.[83]
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.[84][85]
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).[86]
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties[87] and the Book of Zhou,[88] an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.[89][90]
It has been widely held that the Xiongnu, or at least their ruling clans, had or were acquiring a Turkic identity.
(The Turks in World History-Oxford University Press)
Around 155, the northern Hsiung-nu, who were most probably of Turkic stock and were established in the Orkhon region of upper Mongolia
(Rene Grousset)
The dominant nomad people in the Mongolian steppe in the 7th century, the Tujue, were identified with the Turks and claimed to be descended from the Xiongnu. A number of Xiongnu customs do suggest Turkish affinity, which has led some historians to suggest that the western Xiongnu may have been the ancestors of the European Turks of later centuries.
www.britannica.com/topic/Xiongnu
Their ethnical affinities have been much discussed; but it is most probable that they were of the Turki stock, as were the Huns, their later western representatives. They are the first Turkish people mentioned by the Chinese.
en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclopædia_Britannica/Hiung-nu
Including Jean-Pierre Abel-Rémusat, Julius Klaproth, Shiratori Kurakichi, Gustaf John Ramstedt, Annemarie von Gabain and Omeljan Pritsak, believe it was a Turkic language.
www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Xiongnu
Some scholars think they were a Turkic tribe descended from the Xiongnu, a group of pastoral nomads who unified much of Asia during the late third and early second centuries B.C.
www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/people/reference/who-were-ruthless-warriors-behind-attila-hun/
The earliest references to peoples that are presumed to be Turkic date to the era of the Xiongnu (2nd century BC), well before the appearance of the Türks proper (mid-6th century AD).
www.college-de-france.fr/site/gilles-veinstein/The-Question-of-Turk-Origins__1.htm
Skeletons from the most recent graves also contained DNA sequences similar to those in people from present-day Turkey. This supports other studies indicating that Turkish tribes originated at least in part in Mongolia at the end of the Xiongnu period.
www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/07_03/ancient.shtml
John Man, Attila: the barbarian king who challenged Rome, Bantam, 2005, p.62. University of Michigan. ISBN 0593052919, 9780593052914:
• "The Xiongnu also worshipped Tengri. A history of the Han dynasty (206 BC - AD 8), written towards the end of the first century by the historian Pan Ku, in a section on the Xiongnu, says, 'They refer to their ruler by the title cheng li [a transliteration of tengri] ku t'u [son] shan-yii [king]' i.e. something like 'His Majesty, the Son of Heaven'. In early Turkish inscriptions, the ruler has his power from Tengri; and Tengri was the name given to Uighur kings of the eighth and ninth centuries."
The principal invaders in the north were no longer the Turkic Xiongnu, whose confederation ... The most outstanding were the Toba Turks, who set up their Northern Wei dynasty (386 - 535)
(China: A New History, Second Enlarged Edition - Harvard University Press)
The constant incursions in the Han's northern and northwestern frontiers by the Turkic nomads known as Xiongnu (the Huns) necessitated Han
(Dictionary of Music-Harvard University Press)
It has often been suggested that the Xiongnu, mentioned in Han Dynasty records, were Proto-Turkic speakers.[23][24][25][26][27]
The Hun hordes of Attila, who invaded and conquered much of Europe in the 5th century, may have been Turkic and descendants of the Xiongnu.[21][28][29]
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Turkey
The earliest separate Turkic peoples appeared on the peripheries of the late Xiongnu confederation about 200 BCE[70] (contemporaneous with the Chinese Han Dynasty).[71] It has often been suggested that the Xiongnu, mentioned in Han Dynasty records, were Proto-Turkic speakers.[72][73][74][75][76]
a Hsiung-nu tribe which seems to have spoken a Turkic language.
biography.yourdictionary.com/shih-le
The oldest historical evidence of a Turkic people is contained in Chinese sources of the 3rd century BC, in which the Huns are mentioned. The original settlement area of the Turkic peoples was in southern Siberia.
The Turkic peoples of the Huns, Khazars, Onogurs, Protobulgarians, Volga Bulgarians, Pechenegen and Kumans have assimilated.
www.igenea.com/en/ancient-tribes/turkic-peoples
The Balkars speak the Karachay-Balkar language, which belongs to the Kipchak Subgroup of the West Hunnic Branch of the Turkic Language Family.
www.encyclopedia.com/history/modern-europe/russian-soviet-and-cis-history/balkars
Shih Le was a Chieh, a Hsiung-nu tribe which seems to have spoken a Turkic language.
www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/shih-le
In 104, 102, and 42 b.c.e. Chinese armies defeated the Turkic nomad Xiongnu alongside captive Roman soldiers in the former Greek kingdom of Sogdiana.
www.encyclopedia.com/history/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/globalization-asia
From this a some scholars hold that the Xiongnu had a script similar to Eurasian runiform and this alphabet itself served as the basis for the ancient Turkic writing.[127]
The Huns, who carried later the name of the Turks, originate in a country in the north of China.
www.cambridge.org/core/books/empires-and-exchanges-in-eurasian-late-antiquity/xiongnu-and-huns/A50D5FA09C67752CB0CD2E3441F87840/core-reader
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"The Huns are beyond doubt the political and ethnic inheritors of the old Xiongnu empire" in Vaissière, Etienne de la (212). Oxford Handbook of Late Antiquity: 5 Central Asia and the Silk Road. Oxford University Press. pp. 144-155 (7-18).
Neparáczki et al. 2019, p. 1. "Haplogroups from the Hun-age are consistent with Xiongnu ancestry of European Huns.
To the north of the Xiongnu empire and Dingling territories, at the headwaters of the Yenisei around Tannu Uriankhai, lived the Gekun (鬲昆), also known as the Yenisei Kirghizin later records. Further to the west near the Irtysh river lived the Hujie (呼揭). Other tribes living of the Xiongnu, such as the Hunyu (浑庾), Qushe (屈射), and Xinli (薪犁), were only mentioned once in Chinese records, and their exact location is unknown.
Huns are ancestor of Mongols
@ALP ER TUNGA I know Turks were a nomadic people, and I love Turkey. But no one can judge or change history. I like to study history with archeological and cultural facts. Let me give you a little information. The Turks have always been Muslims, while the Huns and ancient Mongols have worship ed the "Tengri" (sky). It is also the birthplace of Central Asia, where Mongolians still live. Modun Chanyu , the founder of the Hun dynasty, and his father, Toumen chanyu, have Mongolian names. Modun means 'tree', Toumen means "tens" and chanyu was the highest title of the Hun Dynasty.I have heard that Mongolians still use these names. I hope you understand. Take care of yourself.😉👌
The Huns were a nomadic people who lived in Central Asia, the Caucasus between the 4th and 6th century AD. They are nomads who have fought many times to expand from Central Asia to China to Europe. The Ruga king expanded to Europe. Then his two nephews, Attila and Bleda are ruled Europe. Attila was born in Europe during the conquest of Europe, so he is called a European or Turk, but his roots are in the center of Asia
I lived in Mongolia for 2 years. At that time, I saw monuments and wonderful exhibits from the Xiongnu period. I've seen a little bit about the Xiongnu. If I want to look at the expansion of the Xiongnu into Europe, I go to Europe, especially to Turkey.
@@blackksunnn2274 That doesnt make sense. "The Turks have always been Muslims, while the Huns and ancient Mongols have worship ed the "Tengri" (sky)." The Gökturk Empire was a Turkic Empire even the name was Turkic and their Religion was Tengrism.
The founders of the xiongnu state are Turks and the Mongols live as a minority within the state, that is, the state is a Turkish state. The same is true in the Mongol empire. The founders of the Mongolian empire are Mongols, but the Turks lived as a minority in the state.
Bro modu chanyu literally just killed his wife like that 😂
Not modu. Called Mete han, and he Killed his own father to Save hun state. Which worked and kicked off Chinese.
In turkish history books its not mentioned that he killed his own wife for loyalty. In steppe nomad culture the wife was sacred and highly respected in the household tribes. Killing your own wife would mean huge disrespect against your own tribe. Its not logical because he would kill his own childrens mother for loyalty.
@@muchi123456 Did he kill his own wife? I thought it was his father.
@@TatarProductions yeah thats correct, he killed his father. After that he herited is fathers army and then killed his step mother an brother.
@@muchi123456 I see
Xiognu are mongols not Turks or any Turkic people 🇲🇳🇲🇳🇲🇳
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
only the Turkic Gaoju origin of the Hephthalites should be retained as indicative of their primary ethnicity.[82]
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu
"
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.[18][19]
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.[84][85]
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).[86]
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties[87] and the Book of Zhou,[88] an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.[89][90]
Tiele are originally Xiongnu's splinter stocks. As Tujue are strong and prosperous, all Tiele districts (郡) are divided and scattered, the masses gradually dwindled and weakened. Until the beginning of Wude [era], there have been Xueyantuo, Qibi, Huihe, Dubo, Guligan, Duolange, Pugu, Bayegu, Tongluo, Hun, Sijie, Huxue, Xijie, Adie, Baixi, etc. scattered in the northern wastelands.
- Jiu Tangshu, 199, lower
Xiongnu=🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷 who ruled your ancestors🤣🤣🤣
Mongols tribe only exist 1000 yrs after Xiongnu.
@@papazataklaattiranimam ahhh turk!!!
@@papazataklaattiranimam if turks were ruling, why they immigrated to Europe 🤣🤣🤣
According to the "Book of Song", the Rourans, whom Book of Wei identified as offspring of Proto-Mongolic Donghu people, possessed the alternative name (s) 大 檀 Dàtán "Tatar" and / or 檀 檀Tántán "Tartar" and according to Book of Liang, "they also constituted a separate branch of the Xiongnu. Tatars are mongolian tribes.
However, Chinese chroniclers routinely ascribed Xiongnu origins to various nomadic groups: for examples, Xiongnu ancestry was ascribed to Turkic-speaking Göktürks and Tiele as well as Para-Mongolic-speaking Kumo Xi and Khitans. Today's Daurs (Khitans) are male relatives of the Southern Сhanuy. Kumo Xi and Kimaks mongolian tribes.
Genghis Khan refers to the time of Modu Chanyu as "the remote times of our Chanyu" in his letter to Daoist Qiu Chuji. Sun and moon symbol of Xiongnu that discovered by archaeologists is similar to Mongolian Soyombo symbol.
The language of the European Huns is sometimes referred to as a Bulghar Turkic variety in general linguistic literature, but caution is needed in establishing its affiliations.
The predominant part of the Xiongnu population is likely to have spoken Turkic (Late Proto-Turkic, to be more precise).
Cite this article: Savelyev A, Jeong C (2020). Early nomads of the Eastern Steppe and their tentative connections in the West. Evolutionary Human Sciences 2, e20, 1-17.
only the Turkic Gaoju origin of the Hephthalites should be retained as indicative of their primary ethnicity.
Vaissière, Etienne de la (2003). "Is There a "Nationality of the Hephthalites"?". Bulletin of the Asia Institute. 17: 122.
"The Huns are beyond doubt the political and ethnic inheritors of the old Xiongnu empire" in Vaissière, Etienne de la (212). Oxford Handbook of Late Antiquity: 5 Central Asia and the Silk Road. Oxford University Press. pp. 144-155 (7-18).
Neparáczki et al. 2019, p. 1. "Haplogroups from the Hun-age are consistent with Xiongnu ancestry of European Huns.
To the north of the Xiongnu empire and Dingling territories, at the headwaters of the Yenisei around Tannu Uriankhai, lived the Gekun (鬲昆), also known as the Yenisei Kirghizin later records. Further to the west near the Irtysh river lived the Hujie (呼揭). Other tribes living of the Xiongnu, such as the Hunyu (浑庾), Qushe (屈射), and Xinli (薪犁), were only mentioned once in Chinese records, and their exact location is unknown.
Gaoju, apparently, are the remaining branch of the ancient Chidi. Originally they were called "Dili", in the north they are called "Chile", and in China - "Gaoju Dinglings", i.e. High Carts Dinglings. Their language is generally similar to the Xiongnu, but sometimes there are small differences.
- Book of Wei
Wei Shou (魏收). Book of Wei (History of Northern Wei Dynasty). Peking, Bo-na, 1958, pp. 26a-26b
translation by Taskin V.S., "Materials on history of nomadic tribes in China 3rd-5th cc", Issue 2 "Jie", "Science", Moscow, 1990, p. 168, Note 158, ISBN 5-02-016543-3
The Gaoche are probably remnants of the ancient Red Di. Initially they had been called Dili. Northerners take them as Chile. Chinese take them as Gaoche Dingling. Their language, in brief, and Xiongnu [language] are the same yet occasionally there are small differences. Or one may say that they [Gaoche] are the junior relatives[18] of the Xiongnu in former times.
The Gaoche migrate in search of grass and water. They dress in skins and eat meat. Their cattle and sheep are just like those of the Rouran, but the wheel of their carts are high and have very many spokes.
- Weishu, 103
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu”
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.
Weishu, Vol. 102 "其風俗言語與高車同,而其人清潔於胡。俗剪髮齊眉,以醍醐塗之,昱昱然光澤,日三澡漱,然後飲食。"
*Kyzlasov, L . R. (1 January 1996). "Northern Nomads". In Litvinsky, B. A. (ed.). History of Civilizations of Central Asia: The crossroads of civilizations, A.D. 250 to 750. UNESCO. pp. 310-320. ISBN 9231032119.
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.
Linghu Defen et al., Book of Zhou, Vol. 50. (in Chinese)
Li Yanshou (李延寿), History of the Northern Dynasties, Vol. 99. (in Chinese)
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).
Peter B. Golden (1992). "Chapter VI - The Uyğur Qağante (742-840)". An Introduction to the History of the Turkic Peoples: Ethnogenesis and State-Formation in Medieval and Early Modern Eurasia and the Middle East. p. 155. ISBN 978-3-447-03274-2.
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties and the Book of Zhou, an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.
Craig Benjamin (2007, 49), In: Hyun Jin Kim, The Huns, Rome and the Birth of Europe. Cambridge University Press. 2013. page 176.
History of Northern Dynasties, vol. 99
Book of Zhou, vol. 50
Tiele are originally Xiongnu's splinter stocks. As Tujue are strong and prosperous, all Tiele districts (郡) are divided and scattered, the masses gradually dwindled and weakened. Until the beginning of Wude [era], there have been Xueyantuo, Qibi, Huihe, Dubo, Guligan, Duolange, Pugu, Bayegu, Tongluo, Hun, Sijie, Huxue, Xijie, Adie, Baixi, etc. scattered in the northern wastelands.
- Jiu Tangshu, 199, lower
New Book of Tang, vol. 215 upper. "突厥阿史那氏, 蓋古匈奴北部也." "The Ashina family of the Turk probably were the northern tribes of the ancient Xiongnu." translated by Xu (2005)
Old Book of Tang Vol. 199 lower "鐵勒,本匈奴別種" tr. "Tiele, originally a splinter race from Xiongnu"
Suishu, Vol. 84 "鐵勒之先,匈奴之苗裔也" tr. "Tiele's predecessors are Xiongnu's descendants."
Linghu Defen et al., Book of Zhou, Vol. 50. (in Chinese)
Li Yanshou (李延寿), History of the Northern Dynasties, Vol. 99. (in Chinese)
舊五代史 Jiu Wudai Shi, Chapter 138. Original text: 回鶻,其先匈奴之種也。後魏時,號爲鐵勒,亦名回紇。唐元和四年,本國可汗遣使上言,改爲回鶻,義取迴旋搏擊,如鶻之迅捷也。 Translation: Hui Hu [Uyghur], originally of Xiongnu stock. During Later Wei, they were called Tiele. They were also called Hui He. In the fourth year of the Yuanhe era, the Khan of their country sent an envoy to submit a request, and the name was changed to Hui Hu. It takes its meaning from turning round to strike rapidly like a falcon.
The forebears of the Tiele belonged to those Xiongnu descendants, having the largest divisions of tribes. They occupied the valleys, and were scattered across the vast region west of the Western Sea [Black Sea]
At the area north of the Duluo River, are the Bugu (僕骨), Tongluo (同羅), Weihe (韋紇),[17] Bayegu (拔也古), Fuluo (覆羅), which were all called Sijin (Irkin). Other tribes such as Mengchen (蒙陳), Turuhe (吐如紇), Sijie (斯結),[a] Hun (渾), Hu (斛), Xue (薛) (or Huxue) and so forth, also dwelled in this area. They had a 20,000 strong invincible army.
[...]
The names of these tribes differ, but all of them can be classified as Tiele. The Tiele do not have a master, but are subjected to the both Eastern and Western Tujue (Göktürks) respectively. They don't have a permanent residence, and move with the changes of grass and water. Their main characteristics are, firstly, they possessed great ferocity, and yet showed tolerance; secondly, they were good riders and archers; and thirdly, they showed greed without restraint, for they often made their living by looting. The tribes toward the west were more cultivated, for they bred cattle and sheep, but fewer horses. Since the Tujue had established a state, they were recruited as the auxiliary of empire and conquered both east and westward, annexing all of the northern regional lands.
The customs of the Tiele and Tujue are not much different. However, a man of the Tiele lives in his wife's home after marriage and will not return to his own home with his wife until the birth of a child. In addition, the Tiele also bury their dead under the ground.
- Suishu, 84
Agathias calls them Onogur Huns (3.5.6, Frendo (1975), 72).
@@Nomadicenjoyerplus
Recently, Christopher Atwood reconstructs a foreign ethnonym *ga, which was borrowed into Old Chinese as 胡 *gâ (> hú), while an i-suffixed derivative of *ga underlies two Middle Chinese transcriptions: namely, *Bo-lâk Khėi (> Bùluò-Jī) (步落稽), based on the ethnonym of a people of Xiongnu, Mountain Rong or Red Di origins[25] in Northern Shaanxi-Shanxi-Ordos; as well as *Gʰiei, based on the ethnonym of the Mongolic-speaking Xī (奚), whom Arab geographers knew as Qāy.
@@dadlight3783 Di were Turkic peoples Di is old name of Tiele Turks
Modun Shanyu is Mongolian 🇲🇳 . Not turk.
@ALP ER TUNGA
They are Turks
The term Turkic represents a broad ethno-linguistic group of peoples including existing societies such as Altai, Azerbaijanis, Balkars, Bashkirs, Chuvashes, Crimean Karaites, Gagauz, Karachays, Karakalpaks, Kazakhs, Khakas, Krymchaks, Kyrgyz people, Nogais, Qashqai, Tatars, Turkmens, Turkish people, Tuvans, Uyghurs, Uzbeks, and Yakuts and as well as ancient and medieval states such as Dingling, Bulgars, Alat, Basmyl, Onogurs, Shatuo, Chuban, Göktürks, Oghuz Turks, Kankalis, Khazars, Khiljis, Kipchaks, Kumans, Karluks, Bahri Mamluks, Ottoman Turks, Seljuk Turks, Tiele, Timurids, Turgeshes, Yenisei Kirghiz, and Huns, Tuoba, and Xiongnu.[24][25][26][27][28]
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
only the Turkic Gaoju origin of the Hephthalites should be retained as indicative of their primary ethnicity.[82]
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu
"
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.[18][19]
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.[84][85]
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).[86]
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties[87] and the Book of Zhou,[88] an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.[89][90]
Tiele are originally Xiongnu's splinter stocks. As Tujue are strong and prosperous, all Tiele districts (郡) are divided and scattered, the masses gradually dwindled and weakened. Until the beginning of Wude [era], there have been Xueyantuo, Qibi, Huihe, Dubo, Guligan, Duolange, Pugu, Bayegu, Tongluo, Hun, Sijie, Huxue, Xijie, Adie, Baixi, etc. scattered in the northern wastelands.
- Jiu Tangshu, 199, lower
Collisions and trade with the Xiongnu , fierce Turkic-speaking nomads of the north and west, began in the life- time of Confucius.
“The Emergence of an International System in East Asia.” East Asia at the Center: Four Thousand Years of Engagement with the World, by WARREN I. COHEN, Columbia University Press, NEW YORK, 2000, pp. 1-61.
which is about the Han Dynasty general Su Wu, who was captured in 100 b.c. while on a diplomatic mission to the Xiongnu , a Turkic clan in central Asia.
“FROM LUN ON AND LUN HOP TO THE GREAT CHINA THEATER, 1922-1925.” Chinatown Opera Theater in North America, by Nancy Yunhwa Rao, University of Illinois Press, Urbana; Chicago; Springfield, 2017, pp. 152-184.
The principal invaders in the north were no longer the Turkic Xiongnu , whose confederation had broken up
“Reunification in the Buddhist Age.” China: A New History, Second Enlarged Edition, by John King Fairbank and Merle Goldman, Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts; London, England, 2006, pp. 72-87.
They aii belong to the Yugus branch of the western Xiongnu group of the Turkic languages, which are part of the Altaic language family.
“The Frontier Ground and Peoples of Northwest China.” Familiar Strangers: A History of Muslims in Northwest China, by JONATHAN N. LIPMAN, University of Washington Press, SEATTLE; LONDON, 1997, pp. 3-23.
Prof. Dr. Nicola Di Cosmo in: The Turks: Early ages, Part 4. Huns (Xiongnu): The Origin and Rise of the Xiongnu Empire, Y. T., 2002, pp.217-227, University of Michigan, ISBN 9756782552, 9789756782552
"There is not much doubt among historians about the Turkish nature of the Great Hun Empire, which ruled between 318 B.C. and 216 A.D., as well as that of its predecessor proto-Huns, whose presence was confirmed by Chinese sources. The Great Hun Empire, the Western Hun Empire and especially the European Huns were examined comprehensively by Western historians."
Land conl icts were also a factor in the frequent clashes from the third century BC onwards between the Chinese Qin and Han Dynasties and the alliance of Turkic nomads, called the Xiongnu people. In the third century BC, the Xiongnu bordered the northwest frontier of Chinese imperial lands, and controlled many of the key trading centers along the land-based routes of the Silk Roads all the way to the Caucasus Mountains.
Barbier, E. (2010). The Rise of Cities (from 3000 BC to 1000 AD). In Scarcity and Frontiers: How Economies Have Developed Through Natural Resource Exploitation (pp. 84-156). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/CBO9780511781131.004
It was the Hsiung-nu, a Turkic tribe , who first exerted pressure on the Chinese rulers in the north by capturing Lo-yang in 311 and Ch'ang-an in 316. From this period on, north China was under the sway of non- Chinese rulers.
“INITIAL CONTACT AND RESPONSE: BUDDHISM UNDER THE EASTERN CHIN DYNASTY.” Buddhism in China: A Historical Survey, by KENNETH K. S. CH’EN, Princeton University Press, PRINCETON, NEW JERSEY, 1964, pp. 57-93.
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The language of the European Huns is sometimes referred to as a Bulghar Turkic variety in general linguistic literature, but caution is needed in establishing its affiliations.
The predominant part of the Xiongnu population is likely to have spoken Turkic (Late Proto-Turkic, to be more precise).
Cite this article: Savelyev A, Jeong C (2020). Early nomads of the Eastern Steppe and their tentative connections in the West. Evolutionary Human Sciences 2, e20, 1-17.
only the Turkic Gaoju origin of the Hephthalites should be retained as indicative of their primary ethnicity.
Vaissière, Etienne de la (2003). "Is There a "Nationality of the Hephthalites"?". Bulletin of the Asia Institute. 17: 122.
"The Huns are beyond doubt the political and ethnic inheritors of the old Xiongnu empire" in Vaissière, Etienne de la (212). Oxford Handbook of Late Antiquity: 5 Central Asia and the Silk Road. Oxford University Press. pp. 144-155 (7-18).
Neparáczki et al. 2019, p. 1. "Haplogroups from the Hun-age are consistent with Xiongnu ancestry of European Huns.
To the north of the Xiongnu empire and Dingling territories, at the headwaters of the Yenisei around Tannu Uriankhai, lived the Gekun (鬲昆), also known as the Yenisei Kirghizin later records. Further to the west near the Irtysh river lived the Hujie (呼揭). Other tribes living of the Xiongnu, such as the Hunyu (浑庾), Qushe (屈射), and Xinli (薪犁), were only mentioned once in Chinese records, and their exact location is unknown.
Gaoju, apparently, are the remaining branch of the ancient Chidi. Originally they were called "Dili", in the north they are called "Chile", and in China - "Gaoju Dinglings", i.e. High Carts Dinglings. Their language is generally similar to the Xiongnu, but sometimes there are small differences.
- Book of Wei
Wei Shou (魏收). Book of Wei (History of Northern Wei Dynasty). Peking, Bo-na, 1958, pp. 26a-26b
translation by Taskin V.S., "Materials on history of nomadic tribes in China 3rd-5th cc", Issue 2 "Jie", "Science", Moscow, 1990, p. 168, Note 158, ISBN 5-02-016543-3
The Gaoche are probably remnants of the ancient Red Di. Initially they had been called Dili. Northerners take them as Chile. Chinese take them as Gaoche Dingling. Their language, in brief, and Xiongnu [language] are the same yet occasionally there are small differences. Or one may say that they [Gaoche] are the junior relatives[18] of the Xiongnu in former times.
The Gaoche migrate in search of grass and water. They dress in skins and eat meat. Their cattle and sheep are just like those of the Rouran, but the wheel of their carts are high and have very many spokes.
- Weishu, 103
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu”
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.
Weishu, Vol. 102 "其風俗言語與高車同,而其人清潔於胡。俗剪髮齊眉,以醍醐塗之,昱昱然光澤,日三澡漱,然後飲食。"
*Kyzlasov, L . R. (1 January 1996). "Northern Nomads". In Litvinsky, B. A. (ed.). History of Civilizations of Central Asia: The crossroads of civilizations, A.D. 250 to 750. UNESCO. pp. 310-320. ISBN 9231032119.
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.
Linghu Defen et al., Book of Zhou, Vol. 50. (in Chinese)
Li Yanshou (李延寿), History of the Northern Dynasties, Vol. 99. (in Chinese)
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).
Peter B. Golden (1992). "Chapter VI - The Uyğur Qağante (742-840)". An Introduction to the History of the Turkic Peoples: Ethnogenesis and State-Formation in Medieval and Early Modern Eurasia and the Middle East. p. 155. ISBN 978-3-447-03274-2.
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties and the Book of Zhou, an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.
Craig Benjamin (2007, 49), In: Hyun Jin Kim, The Huns, Rome and the Birth of Europe. Cambridge University Press. 2013. page 176.
History of Northern Dynasties, vol. 99
Book of Zhou, vol. 50
Tiele are originally Xiongnu's splinter stocks. As Tujue are strong and prosperous, all Tiele districts (郡) are divided and scattered, the masses gradually dwindled and weakened. Until the beginning of Wude [era], there have been Xueyantuo, Qibi, Huihe, Dubo, Guligan, Duolange, Pugu, Bayegu, Tongluo, Hun, Sijie, Huxue, Xijie, Adie, Baixi, etc. scattered in the northern wastelands.
- Jiu Tangshu, 199, lower
New Book of Tang, vol. 215 upper. "突厥阿史那氏, 蓋古匈奴北部也." "The Ashina family of the Turk probably were the northern tribes of the ancient Xiongnu." translated by Xu (2005)
Old Book of Tang Vol. 199 lower "鐵勒,本匈奴別種" tr. "Tiele, originally a splinter race from Xiongnu"
Suishu, Vol. 84 "鐵勒之先,匈奴之苗裔也" tr. "Tiele's predecessors are Xiongnu's descendants."
Linghu Defen et al., Book of Zhou, Vol. 50. (in Chinese)
Li Yanshou (李延寿), History of the Northern Dynasties, Vol. 99. (in Chinese)
舊五代史 Jiu Wudai Shi, Chapter 138. Original text: 回鶻,其先匈奴之種也。後魏時,號爲鐵勒,亦名回紇。唐元和四年,本國可汗遣使上言,改爲回鶻,義取迴旋搏擊,如鶻之迅捷也。 Translation: Hui Hu [Uyghur], originally of Xiongnu stock. During Later Wei, they were called Tiele. They were also called Hui He. In the fourth year of the Yuanhe era, the Khan of their country sent an envoy to submit a request, and the name was changed to Hui Hu. It takes its meaning from turning round to strike rapidly like a falcon.
The forebears of the Tiele belonged to those Xiongnu descendants, having the largest divisions of tribes. They occupied the valleys, and were scattered across the vast region west of the Western Sea [Black Sea]
At the area north of the Duluo River, are the Bugu (僕骨), Tongluo (同羅), Weihe (韋紇),[17] Bayegu (拔也古), Fuluo (覆羅), which were all called Sijin (Irkin). Other tribes such as Mengchen (蒙陳), Turuhe (吐如紇), Sijie (斯結),[a] Hun (渾), Hu (斛), Xue (薛) (or Huxue) and so forth, also dwelled in this area. They had a 20,000 strong invincible army.
[...]
The names of these tribes differ, but all of them can be classified as Tiele. The Tiele do not have a master, but are subjected to the both Eastern and Western Tujue (Göktürks) respectively. They don't have a permanent residence, and move with the changes of grass and water. Their main characteristics are, firstly, they possessed great ferocity, and yet showed tolerance; secondly, they were good riders and archers; and thirdly, they showed greed without restraint, for they often made their living by looting. The tribes toward the west were more cultivated, for they bred cattle and sheep, but fewer horses. Since the Tujue had established a state, they were recruited as the auxiliary of empire and conquered both east and westward, annexing all of the northern regional lands.
The customs of the Tiele and Tujue are not much different. However, a man of the Tiele lives in his wife's home after marriage and will not return to his own home with his wife until the birth of a child. In addition, the Tiele also bury their dead under the ground.
- Suishu, 84
Agathias calls them Onogur Huns (3.5.6, Frendo (1975), 72).
This can be surmised by analysing the names of Hunnic princes and tribes. The names of the following Hunnic princes are clearly Oghuric Turkic in origin: Mundzuk (Attila’s father, from Turkic Muncˇuq = pearl/jewel; for an in-depth discussion of the Hunnic origin of this name in particular see Schramm (1969), 139-40), Oktar/Uptar (Attila’s uncle, Öktär = brave/powerful), Oebarsius (another of Attila’s paternal uncles, Aïbârs = leopard of the moon), Karaton (Hunnic supreme king before Ruga, Qarâton = black-cloak), Basik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, early fifth century, Bârsig˘ = governor), Kursik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, from either Kürsig˘ , meaning brave or noble, or Quršiq meaning beltbearer). For these etymologies see Bona (1991), 33. Three of Attila’s known sons 40 have probable Turkic names: Ellac, Dengizich, Hernak, and Attila’s princi pal wife, the mother of the ‘crown prince’ Ellac, has the Turkic name Here kan, as does another notable wife named Eskam. See Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 392-415. See also Bona (1991), 33-5, and Pritsak (1956), 414. Most known Hunnic tribal names are also Turkic, Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 427-41, e.g. Ultincur, Akatir etc. The cur suffix in many of these names is a well-known Turkic title and as Beckwith (1987), 209, points out the To-lu or Tardus tribes (Hunnic in origin) of the Western Turkish On Oq were each headed by a Cur (noble). Zieme (2006), 115, speculates that the title cur belongs to a pre-Turkic Tocharian stratum of the Turkic language, which, if true, again highlights the essential heterogeneity of Central Asian peoples and even languages. See also Aalto (1971), 35. In addition to this primary language (Oghuric Turkic), Priscus informs us that Latin and Gothic were also understood by the Hunnic elite. See Priscus, fr. 13.3, Blockley (1983), 289.
Mclaughlin, Professors Hyun & Lieu, Rome and China: Points of Contact (Routledge, 2021)
@ALP ER TUNGA A Turkic Greek pretends to be Turkic,LOL
Execute one of the most legendary generals in Chinese history and use a low budget replica instead lol
Xiongnu or Hunnic empire is first proto Mongolian empire.On this day, China and Turkic countries tried to claim that Hunnic empire belongs to them . However, Mongolian and American archaeologists and historians jointly proved that the Huns are the direct ancestors of the Mongols.
Source trustmebro
The Gaoche are probably remnants of the ancient Red Di. Initially they had been called Dili. Northerners take them as Chile. Chinese take them as Gaoche Dingling. Their language, in brief, and Xiongnu [language] are the same yet occasionally there are small differences. Or one may say that they [Gaoche] are the junior relatives[18] of the Xiongnu in former times.
The Gaoche migrate in search of grass and water. They dress in skins and eat meat. Their cattle and sheep are just like those of the Rouran, but the wheel of their carts are high and have very many spokes.
- Weishu, 103
Weishu "vol. 103 section Gāochē" text: 高車,蓋古赤狄之餘種也,初號為狄歷,北方以為勑勒,諸夏以為高車、丁零。其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也。其種有狄氏、袁紇氏、斛律氏、解批氏、護骨氏、異奇斤氏。" transl. "Gaoche, probably remnant stocks of the ancient Red Di. Initially they had been called Dili, in the North they are considered Chile, the various Xia(i.e. Chinese) consider them Gaoche Dingling / Dingling with High-Carts. Their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though there are small differences. Or one may say they were sons-in-laws / sororal nephews of their Xiongnu predecessors. Their tribes are Di, Yuanhe, Hulu, Jiepi, Hugu, Yiqijin."
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu”
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.
Weishu, Vol. 102 "其風俗言語與高車同,而其人清潔於胡。俗剪髮齊眉,以醍醐塗之,昱昱然光澤,日三澡漱,然後飲食。"
Book of Wei. Vol. 102. "悅般國,在烏孫西北,去代一萬九百三十里。其先,匈奴北單于之部落也。" Tr. "Yueban State is to the northwest of Wusun, at a distant of 10,930 lĭ from Dai. It formerly [was] the Northern Xiongnu chanyu's tribe."
Kyzlasov, L . R. (1 January 1996). "Northern Nomads". In Litvinsky, B. A. (ed.). History of Civilizations of Central Asia: The crossroads of civilizations, A.D. 250 to 750. UNESCO. pp. 310-320. ISBN 9231032119.
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.
Linghu Defen et al., Book of Zhou, Vol. 50. (in Chinese)
Li Yanshou (李延寿), History of the Northern Dynasties, Vol. 99. (in Chinese)
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).
Peter B. Golden (1992). "Chapter VI - The Uyğur Qağante (742-840)". An Introduction to the History of the Turkic Peoples: Ethnogenesis and State-Formation in Medieval and Early Modern Eurasia and the Middle East. p. 155. ISBN 978-3-447-03274-2.
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties and the Book of Zhou, an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.
Craig Benjamin (2007, 49), In: Hyun Jin Kim, The Huns, Rome and the Birth of Europe. Cambridge University Press. 2013. page 176.
History of Northern Dynasties, vol. 99
Book of Zhou, vol. 50
Tiele are originally Xiongnu's splinter stocks. As Tujue are strong and prosperous, all Tiele districts (郡) are divided and scattered, the masses gradually dwindled and weakened. Until the beginning of Wude [era], there have been Xueyantuo, Qibi, Huihe, Dubo, Guligan, Duolange, Pugu, Bayegu, Tongluo, Hun, Sijie, Huxue, Xijie, Adie, Baixi, etc. scattered in the northern wastelands.
- Jiu Tangshu, 199, lower
New Book of Tang, vol. 215 upper. "突厥阿史那氏, 蓋古匈奴北部也." "The Ashina family of the Turk probably were the northern tribes of the ancient Xiongnu." translated by Xu (2005)
Old Book of Tang Vol. 199 lower "鐵勒,本匈奴別種" tr. "Tiele, originally a splinter race from Xiongnu"
Suishu, Vol. 84 "鐵勒之先,匈奴之苗裔也" tr. "Tiele's predecessors are Xiongnu's descendants."
Linghu Defen et al., Book of Zhou, Vol. 50. (in Chinese)
Li Yanshou (李延寿), History of the Northern Dynasties, Vol. 99. (in Chinese)
舊五代史 Jiu Wudai Shi, Chapter 138. Original text: 回鶻,其先匈奴之種也。後魏時,號爲鐵勒,亦名回紇。唐元和四年,本國可汗遣使上言,改爲回鶻,義取迴旋搏擊,如鶻之迅捷也。 Translation: Hui Hu [Uyghur], originally of Xiongnu stock. During Later Wei, they were called Tiele. They were also called Hui He. In the fourth year of the Yuanhe era, the Khan of their country sent an envoy to submit a request, and the name was changed to Hui Hu. It takes its meaning from turning round to strike rapidly like a falcon.
The forebears of the Tiele belonged to those Xiongnu descendants, having the largest divisions of tribes. They occupied the valleys, and were scattered across the vast region west of the Western Sea [Black Sea]
At the area north of the Duluo River, are the Bugu (僕骨), Tongluo (同羅), Weihe (韋紇),[17] Bayegu (拔也古), Fuluo (覆羅), which were all called Sijin (Irkin). Other tribes such as Mengchen (蒙陳), Turuhe (吐如紇), Sijie (斯結),[a] Hun (渾), Hu (斛), Xue (薛) (or Huxue) and so forth, also dwelled in this area. They had a 20,000 strong invincible army.
[...]
The names of these tribes differ, but all of them can be classified as Tiele. The Tiele do not have a master, but are subjected to the both Eastern and Western Tujue (Göktürks) respectively. They don't have a permanent residence, and move with the changes of grass and water. Their main characteristics are, firstly, they possessed great ferocity, and yet showed tolerance; secondly, they were good riders and archers; and thirdly, they showed greed without restraint, for they often made their living by looting. The tribes toward the west were more cultivated, for they bred cattle and sheep, but fewer horses. Since the Tujue had established a state, they were recruited as the auxiliary of empire and conquered both east and westward, annexing all of the northern regional lands.
The customs of the Tiele and Tujue are not much different. However, a man of the Tiele lives in his wife's home after marriage and will not return to his own home with his wife until the birth of a child. In addition, the Tiele also bury their dead under the ground.
- Suishu, 84
This can be surmised by analysing the names of Hunnic princes and tribes. The names of the following Hunnic princes are clearly Oghuric Turkic in origin: Mundzuk (Attila’s father, from Turkic Muncˇuq = pearl/jewel; for an in-depth discussion of the Hunnic origin of this name in particular see Schramm (1969), 139-40), Oktar/Uptar (Attila’s uncle, Öktär = brave/powerful), Oebarsius (another of Attila’s paternal uncles, Aïbârs = leopard of the moon), Karaton (Hunnic supreme king before Ruga, Qarâton = black-cloak), Basik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, early fifth century, Bârsig˘ = governor), Kursik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, from either Kürsig˘ , meaning brave or noble, or Quršiq meaning beltbearer). For these etymologies see Bona (1991), 33. Three of Attila’s known sons 40 have probable Turkic names: Ellac, Dengizich, Hernak, and Attila’s princi pal wife, the mother of the ‘crown prince’ Ellac, has the Turkic name Here kan, as does another notable wife named Eskam. See Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 392-415. See also Bona (1991), 33-5, and Pritsak (1956), 414. Most known Hunnic tribal names are also Turkic, Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 427-41, e.g. Ultincur, Akatir etc. The cur suffix in many of these names is a well-known Turkic title and as Beckwith (1987), 209, points out the To-lu or Tardus tribes (Hunnic in origin) of the Western Turkish On Oq were each headed by a Cur (noble). Zieme (2006), 115, speculates that the title cur belongs to a pre-Turkic Tocharian stratum of the Turkic language, which, if true, again highlights the essential heterogeneity of Central Asian peoples and even languages. See also Aalto (1971), 35. In addition to this primary language (Oghuric Turkic), Priscus informs us that Latin and Gothic were also understood by the Hunnic elite. See Priscus, fr. 13.3, Blockley (1983), 289.
Mclaughlin, Professors Hyun & Lieu, Rome and China: Points of Contact (Routledge, 2021)
@@pompacitokmakci stop stealing others culture
kaynak:sinan enginin gür saçları
Stalin is probably a total Modu Fangirl
why does this remind me of the ming-qing war? lol
Is Modu related to Attila ?
He has a 33rd generation grandson and is thought to come from the Central Asian noble family, the founder of the European Huns.
No but both turk
Drinking game. Take a sip everytime Cool History Bro says "executed".
The Yuezhi and Wusun were predominantly made up of Indo-Europeans. You'd often see their depiction being mentioned with green, jade-like eyes and bright red coloured hairs. The Yuezhi would later on migrate westward towards the Hindu Kush and formed the Kushan Empire as they defeated the Greek Kingdom of Bactria in modern-day Afghanistan and the Indo-Greek Kingdom in modern-day Pakistan to Northern India.
Yuezhi are basically Tocharians in Greek records.
Wusuns were Turkic
@@yenidenturktarihtezi no
@@user-xu9ji4dd4e chinese sources proven it
The language of the 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰰 people
(Ou)=U= it's / that
(here it's) >Më’u >Mu =Bu= this
(there it’s) >Thë’u >Tsu =Şu= that (şu=~xiou)
(yes it’s) >Hë’u >Hau =O= it (he /she)
(Al /ël)=(bearer/carrier)
ël-diger>Ol diğer= Alter > other
(Iz- uz) = S (plural suffix - doubling)
Der/Dar=(der = diger> other) ...(dar=narrow> nearest to the other)
(Ler/Lar)= plural suffixes > Ol diğer>elder/ uldar/ ular
Ön>eun>une>fore>first-one>front
Bir>ber>per>pri>pre>proto>fore>first one
Baş>beş>pesh>front>fifth-finger>first one>ahead
(önce=~firstly)-(önünde/öncesi=~before)-(öncü=pioneer)
Ka=(Qua)= which
Ka-u> Ki =(Qui)=which that
(Eun-de-ka-u) >Öndeki >(anterior)= which one’s in front (which one’s ahead)
(Ka-eun-de-u) >Kendi >(own)= which one’s the fore ( which one’s the first)
(euz=öz= self) (kendisi=own self /kendi özü=oneself)
our language
(this one)= Mu-eun > (Men)> Ben = I / me (eun-weu)
(that one)= Tsu-eun > (xien/thien)> Sen = You (eun-thu)
(the one) = Hë’u -eun > (an /on) > O = it (he /she) (eun-hëu)
(these ones)= Mu-eun-iz>(miŋiz)> Biz = We (eun-weu-s)
(those ones)=Tsu-eun-iz>(siŋiz)> Siz = You (eun-thu-s) (plural)
Hau-ël> Ol =O= it (he /she)
El=someone else (~bearer / hand)
(El-der)= Eller= other people (different persons)
Hau-ël-dar= (Ouldar) =Ullar (The bearer and other-s nearest to it/him)
Hau-eun-dar= (Andar)=Onlar= They
Mu-ël-dar=(Mouldar>Boullar) =(This bearer and other-s nearest to this)
Mu-eun-dar= (Moundar>Bounnar)=Bunlar= These
Tsu-ël-dar=(Xiouldar>Shoullar) =(That bearer and other-s nearest to that)
Tsu-eun-dar=(Xioundar>Shounnar)=Şunlar= Those
Dayı=(maternal) uncle
Dayım=my uncle
Dayımlar=my uncle and other ones closest to him=(~my uncle and his family) or (~my uncle and his close friends)
Dayılarım=my uncles
ikiz=(two similar ones) =twin
ikiler =two and other dual ones
üçüz=(three similar ones)=triplet
üçler = three and other triple ones
her = every her bir= each
her-bir-u = her biri = each one
bir-u-her =birer = single each
iki-tsu-her =ikişer =two each (each one’s a dual)
üç-u-her = üçer =three each ( each one’s a triple)
yedi-tsu-her = yedişer = each one's a septet
(Mu-ëun-iŋ)=Meniŋ=Benim=My
(Tsu-ëun-iŋ)=Seniŋ=Senin=Your
(Ou-ël-ëun-iŋ)=Olniŋ=Onun=His/her/its
(Mu-ëun-iz-iŋ)=Mŋiziŋ=Bizim=Our
(Tsu-ëun-iz-iŋ)=Sŋiziŋ=Sizin=Your (Plural)
(Ou-ël-ëun-dar-iŋ)=Olndarıŋ=Onların=Their
Ka-u=Ki=(Qui)=which that
(Meniŋ-ka-u):=which that my...= benimki=mine
(Seniŋ-ka-u):=which that your = seninki=yours
(Olniŋ-ka-u):=which that his/her/its= onunki= his/hers/its
Çün=(chiun)=factor
Ka=(Qua)= (which)
U=(ou)= it's (that)
(Ka-u)= Ki=(Qui)=which that
(Çün-ka-u)=(factor-which-that) =Çünki =(c'est-pour-quoi)=(that's why)=(therefore)= Because
U-Çün = the Factor İçün=it's for= için=for
Mak/Mek...(ımak/emek)= process/ exertion
Gel-mek= to come (the process of coming)
Gel-mek için = for coming =(the factor to the process of coming)
Görmek için= for seeing
Gitmek için= for going
for deriving new adjectives from verbs
A/e=to Çün=factor ( Jiu= intermediary factor /agent of)
suffixes..(Icı-ici-ucu-ücü) (the pronunciation is like ~uji)
...A/e +U+Çü =It's intermediary factor To ..
(geç-e-u-jiu) =it has an intermediary factor to pass =Geçici = transient /temporary
(uç-a-u-jiu) =it has an intermediary factor to fly = Uçucu = volatile
(kal-a-u-jiu) =it has an intermediary factor to remain = Kalıcı = permanent
(yan-a-u-jiu) =it has an intermediary factor to burn out = Yanıcı = flammable (yanıcı madde=flammable material)
(bağla-y-a-u-jiu) =it has an intermediary factor to biind/connect = Bağlayıcı = binding/connective
for deriving new adjectives from nouns and adjectives
Çün=factor ( Jiu= intermediary factor /agent of)
suffixes.. (Cı-ci-cu-cü) or (Çı-çi-çu-çü) =busyness (mostly about mision and profession)
(jaban-jiu) Yabancı = (outsider)=foreign-er
(ish-jiu> İşçi= work-er
kapıcı=doorman
demirci=ironsmith
gemici=sailor
deŋizci=seaman
for deriving adjectives from the numbers
U-Ne-Jiu =that-what-factor
suffixes..(Ncı-ncu-nci-ncü)
(Bir-u-ne-jiu)=Birinci= ~first (initial)
(İki-u-ne-jiu)= İkinci= second
(Üç-u-ne-jiu)= Üçüncü=third
(Miŋ-u-ne-jiu)=Bininci=thousandth
Annemiŋ pişirdiği tavuk çorbası =(Anne-m-iŋ Biş-dir-di-qa-u Tavğuk Chorba-tsu)= the chicken soup which (belongs to that) my mom cook-ed...
Arkadaşımdan bana gelğen mektubu okudum= (Arkadaş-ım-daen meŋ-a (gel-qa-eun) mektup-u oku-du-m)= I've read the-letter (which-one-comes) from my friend to me
Sen eve giderken = (Sen Ev-e Git-e-er u-ka-en) = (which-the-time You get-to-Go to-Home)= While you go home
Seni gördüğüm yer = (Sen-u Gör-dü-qa-u-m yer) = (which-the-place I Saw (that) You) = Where I saw you
İşe başlayacağı gün= iş-e başla-y'a-çak(qa)-u gün (Ki o gün işe başlayacak)=(which) the day s/he's gonna start to work
Xiongnu was Mongol state
No mete han is turkic
@@Error111 He was born in Mongolia. They were Mongols
@@gdp1004 Cause back then mongolia was turkic ,Turks were rulling Mongolia.I was born in belgium but that doesn't mean that i'm belgian your dna says what you are Xiongus were turkic tribes in china but they were turks modu chanyu took turkic, mongolian warriors and became powerful and won against the Chinese
@@Error111 There is no evidence that there was Turkic people living area of Mongolia.
@@Error111 😂😂😂😂Turk did not even exist during that time
2 han xin wow
12:00 Sarcasm?
love turkic Xiongnu from UK 🇬🇧🙏
In my opinion they wasn't turkic, but took part in enthnogenesis of future turkic ethnicity with other ethnical groups of steppe
@@r3dum877 Introduction à l'histoire de l'Asie : Turcs et Mongols, des origines à 1405
The book of Leon Cahun
Turks are the descendants of the Xiungnu
@@kosukcuafrasiyab Yeah, people think Xiongnu was ONLY ascendant of Turks. But they're also ascendants of Mongols too.
@@bxyhxyh Turks and Mongolian Nation of the Same Lands
It was certainly part of the Xiungnu State in the Mongols, but the rulers were Turks.
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
only the Turkic Gaoju origin of the Hephthalites should be retained as indicative of their primary ethnicity.[82]
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu
"
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.[18][19]
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.[84][85]
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).[86]
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties[87] and the Book of Zhou,[88] an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.[89][90]
Tiele are originally Xiongnu's splinter stocks. As Tujue are strong and prosperous, all Tiele districts (郡) are divided and scattered, the masses gradually dwindled and weakened. Until the beginning of Wude [era], there have been Xueyantuo, Qibi, Huihe, Dubo, Guligan, Duolange, Pugu, Bayegu, Tongluo, Hun, Sijie, Huxue, Xijie, Adie, Baixi, etc. scattered in the northern wastelands.
- Jiu Tangshu, 199, lower
Wait wait wait.... hu are we talking about?
Sorry. Genuinely sorry. Couldnt resist.
Meu ancestral, pelo lado do meu avô!
Can you do it about
the Turkish Ottoman Empire?
Morale of the story: obedience is more valuable than any treasure.
Unrelated: his stepmom is kinda hot 🥵 though 🤠
I heard the first han xin was really good 😌 but r we sure he could have beaten moudu? This guy is pretty 😍 persistent
Very possible, Han Xin is probably one of the best chinese general ever. although I believe he probably doesn’t have as much experience with Xiong nu. I believe people like general wei Qing has greater chance beating modu. He fought the entire Xiong nu and beat them during the Han wu di period. Because him Han eventually won the Xiong nu war.
@@papercat2599 There were 2 Han Xin at that time, the other one is the king's direct descent of Han state of Zhou Dynasty
What's the moral people?
DON'T PLAY FAVORITISM WITH YOUR KIDS!
Why put pictures of tibetan people as example?
His name was METE
Modu Even more though guy than Genghizkhan. Really.. What brutal experience he faced? to come up with such baddas idea of killing his favorite horse, wife and father.. So after he became a boss, it's continued through a tribute to enemy with leaving them most precious property.. Horses and wives. He's really more badass than Genghizkhan
Modu Chanyu Created a Nation
They were both Mongols
@@gdp1004 Xiongnu were Proto Mongols
the name Mongols arose from 12th century
@@gdp1004 xiognu is oghur turkic
@@burakasik3937 never heard of that
Great leader
It's a pity Xiang Yu didn't work together with Liu bang.
They could conquer the world.
Jk.. I wanaa see how it playout.
They could've done what the bigger China (Rome) did, a Princeps and a co-princeps, except make it so there is a Huang Di of civil administration and a Huang Di of the military.
Now I realize this double monarchy thing is more of a Spartan thing
Touman actually means smoke in Turkic language
Touman actually means ten thousand in Mongolian language. The man who leads ten 1000.
@@byambajavr6519 that’s modern
Mongolian, im certain it’s different in pre proto Mongol language
@@byambajavr6519 the origin is TURKIC
@@byambajavr6519 Mongolian word of Turkic origin
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This can be surmised by analysing the names of Hunnic princes and tribes. The names of the following Hunnic princes are clearly Oghuric Turkic in origin: Mundzuk (Attila’s father, from Turkic Muncˇuq = pearl/jewel; for an in-depth discussion of the Hunnic origin of this name in particular see Schramm (1969), 139-40), Oktar/Uptar (Attila’s uncle, Öktär = brave/powerful), Oebarsius (another of Attila’s paternal uncles, Aïbârs = leopard of the moon), Karaton (Hunnic supreme king before Ruga, Qarâton = black-cloak), Basik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, early fifth century, Bârsig˘ = governor), Kursik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, from either Kürsig˘ , meaning brave or noble, or Quršiq meaning beltbearer). For these etymologies see Bona (1991), 33. Three of Attila’s known sons 40 have probable Turkic names: Ellac, Dengizich, Hernak, and Attila’s princi pal wife, the mother of the ‘crown prince’ Ellac, has the Turkic name Here kan, as does another notable wife named Eskam. See Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 392-415. See also Bona (1991), 33-5, and Pritsak (1956), 414. Most known Hunnic tribal names are also Turkic, Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 427-41, e.g. Ultincur, Akatir etc. The cur suffix in many of these names is a well-known Turkic title and as Beckwith (1987), 209, points out the To-lu or Tardus tribes (Hunnic in origin) of the Western Turkish On Oq were each headed by a Cur (noble). Zieme (2006), 115, speculates that the title cur belongs to a pre-Turkic Tocharian stratum of the Turkic language, which, if true, again highlights the essential heterogeneity of Central Asian peoples and even languages. See also Aalto (1971), 35. In addition to this primary language (Oghuric Turkic), Priscus informs us that Latin and Gothic were also understood by the Hunnic elite. See Priscus, fr. 13.3, Blockley (1983), 289.
Mclaughlin, Professors Hyun & Lieu, Rome and China: Points of Contact (Routledge, 2021)
Make sure to mention the horses Emperor Wu got from the Greeks.
Xiongnu Ruling dynasty They are Mongolians aren't Han Chinese, and we may agree with the Chinese historians and may disagree with them
The language of the European Huns is sometimes referred to as a Bulghar Turkic variety in general linguistic literature, but caution is needed in establishing its affiliations.
The predominant part of the Xiongnu population is likely to have spoken Turkic (Late Proto-Turkic, to be more precise).
Cite this article: Savelyev A, Jeong C (2020). Early nomads of the Eastern Steppe and their tentative connections in the West. Evolutionary Human Sciences 2, e20, 1-17.
only the Turkic Gaoju origin of the Hephthalites should be retained as indicative of their primary ethnicity.
Vaissière, Etienne de la (2003). "Is There a "Nationality of the Hephthalites"?". Bulletin of the Asia Institute. 17: 122.
"The Huns are beyond doubt the political and ethnic inheritors of the old Xiongnu empire" in Vaissière, Etienne de la (212). Oxford Handbook of Late Antiquity: 5 Central Asia and the Silk Road. Oxford University Press. pp. 144-155 (7-18).
Neparáczki et al. 2019, p. 1. "Haplogroups from the Hun-age are consistent with Xiongnu ancestry of European Huns.
To the north of the Xiongnu empire and Dingling territories, at the headwaters of the Yenisei around Tannu Uriankhai, lived the Gekun (鬲昆), also known as the Yenisei Kirghizin later records. Further to the west near the Irtysh river lived the Hujie (呼揭). Other tribes living of the Xiongnu, such as the Hunyu (浑庾), Qushe (屈射), and Xinli (薪犁), were only mentioned once in Chinese records, and their exact location is unknown.
Gaoju, apparently, are the remaining branch of the ancient Chidi. Originally they were called "Dili", in the north they are called "Chile", and in China - "Gaoju Dinglings", i.e. High Carts Dinglings. Their language is generally similar to the Xiongnu, but sometimes there are small differences.
- Book of Wei
Wei Shou (魏收). Book of Wei (History of Northern Wei Dynasty). Peking, Bo-na, 1958, pp. 26a-26b
translation by Taskin V.S., "Materials on history of nomadic tribes in China 3rd-5th cc", Issue 2 "Jie", "Science", Moscow, 1990, p. 168, Note 158, ISBN 5-02-016543-3
The Gaoche are probably remnants of the ancient Red Di. Initially they had been called Dili. Northerners take them as Chile. Chinese take them as Gaoche Dingling. Their language, in brief, and Xiongnu [language] are the same yet occasionally there are small differences. Or one may say that they [Gaoche] are the junior relatives[18] of the Xiongnu in former times.
The Gaoche migrate in search of grass and water. They dress in skins and eat meat. Their cattle and sheep are just like those of the Rouran, but the wheel of their carts are high and have very many spokes.
- Weishu, 103
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu”
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.
Weishu, Vol. 102 "其風俗言語與高車同,而其人清潔於胡。俗剪髮齊眉,以醍醐塗之,昱昱然光澤,日三澡漱,然後飲食。"
*Kyzlasov, L . R. (1 January 1996). "Northern Nomads". In Litvinsky, B. A. (ed.). History of Civilizations of Central Asia: The crossroads of civilizations, A.D. 250 to 750. UNESCO. pp. 310-320. ISBN 9231032119.
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.
Linghu Defen et al., Book of Zhou, Vol. 50. (in Chinese)
Li Yanshou (李延寿), History of the Northern Dynasties, Vol. 99. (in Chinese)
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).
Peter B. Golden (1992). "Chapter VI - The Uyğur Qağante (742-840)". An Introduction to the History of the Turkic Peoples: Ethnogenesis and State-Formation in Medieval and Early Modern Eurasia and the Middle East. p. 155. ISBN 978-3-447-03274-2.
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties and the Book of Zhou, an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.
Craig Benjamin (2007, 49), In: Hyun Jin Kim, The Huns, Rome and the Birth of Europe. Cambridge University Press. 2013. page 176.
History of Northern Dynasties, vol. 99
Book of Zhou, vol. 50
Tiele are originally Xiongnu's splinter stocks. As Tujue are strong and prosperous, all Tiele districts (郡) are divided and scattered, the masses gradually dwindled and weakened. Until the beginning of Wude [era], there have been Xueyantuo, Qibi, Huihe, Dubo, Guligan, Duolange, Pugu, Bayegu, Tongluo, Hun, Sijie, Huxue, Xijie, Adie, Baixi, etc. scattered in the northern wastelands.
- Jiu Tangshu, 199, lower
New Book of Tang, vol. 215 upper. "突厥阿史那氏, 蓋古匈奴北部也." "The Ashina family of the Turk probably were the northern tribes of the ancient Xiongnu." translated by Xu (2005)
Old Book of Tang Vol. 199 lower "鐵勒,本匈奴別種" tr. "Tiele, originally a splinter race from Xiongnu"
Suishu, Vol. 84 "鐵勒之先,匈奴之苗裔也" tr. "Tiele's predecessors are Xiongnu's descendants."
Linghu Defen et al., Book of Zhou, Vol. 50. (in Chinese)
Li Yanshou (李延寿), History of the Northern Dynasties, Vol. 99. (in Chinese)
舊五代史 Jiu Wudai Shi, Chapter 138. Original text: 回鶻,其先匈奴之種也。後魏時,號爲鐵勒,亦名回紇。唐元和四年,本國可汗遣使上言,改爲回鶻,義取迴旋搏擊,如鶻之迅捷也。 Translation: Hui Hu [Uyghur], originally of Xiongnu stock. During Later Wei, they were called Tiele. They were also called Hui He. In the fourth year of the Yuanhe era, the Khan of their country sent an envoy to submit a request, and the name was changed to Hui Hu. It takes its meaning from turning round to strike rapidly like a falcon.
The forebears of the Tiele belonged to those Xiongnu descendants, having the largest divisions of tribes. They occupied the valleys, and were scattered across the vast region west of the Western Sea [Black Sea]
At the area north of the Duluo River, are the Bugu (僕骨), Tongluo (同羅), Weihe (韋紇),[17] Bayegu (拔也古), Fuluo (覆羅), which were all called Sijin (Irkin). Other tribes such as Mengchen (蒙陳), Turuhe (吐如紇), Sijie (斯結),[a] Hun (渾), Hu (斛), Xue (薛) (or Huxue) and so forth, also dwelled in this area. They had a 20,000 strong invincible army.
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The names of these tribes differ, but all of them can be classified as Tiele. The Tiele do not have a master, but are subjected to the both Eastern and Western Tujue (Göktürks) respectively. They don't have a permanent residence, and move with the changes of grass and water. Their main characteristics are, firstly, they possessed great ferocity, and yet showed tolerance; secondly, they were good riders and archers; and thirdly, they showed greed without restraint, for they often made their living by looting. The tribes toward the west were more cultivated, for they bred cattle and sheep, but fewer horses. Since the Tujue had established a state, they were recruited as the auxiliary of empire and conquered both east and westward, annexing all of the northern regional lands.
The customs of the Tiele and Tujue are not much different. However, a man of the Tiele lives in his wife's home after marriage and will not return to his own home with his wife until the birth of a child. In addition, the Tiele also bury their dead under the ground.
- Suishu, 84
Agathias calls them Onogur Huns (3.5.6, Frendo (1975), 72).
They are Turkic not Mongolic
Ancient Mongolia was inhabited by Turkic peoples not Mongolic
Xiongnu Empire!🙏
-xiongnu (hunnu, huns), siyanbi, rouran (nerun) toba, khitans were mongolic nomads and acestors of mongols.
during the domination of confederations such as xiongnu-hunnu, siyanbi, rouran, the ancient turkic tribes (tureg) were a small group of blacksmiths and slaves who provided iron made stuffs for each khanate.
-somewhere around year 550 after the war between rouran and toba (toba was suppurted by chinese) and gave powerful punch to the rouran army, meanwhile turkic tribes were rising in shadows united after gaining massive population in numbers. thus, rose to power and defeated what was left from the rouran khanate and took control of steppe till year 750 by expanding their borders to west created a vast empire.
-at year 700 turkic khanate were not that strong as their time of rise and was slowly weakening turks were overthrown by uighur people around in 750.
in 850 khitans took control of steppe but wasn't strong enough like previous confederations.
-during the 1000-1160 there were no serious force in mongolian steppes but only a multiple small tribes of waring with each other for pasture for their herds until Temuujin (Chinggis Khan) of mongolian "khiyad borjigin" clan unites all tribes and creates "Khamag Mongol (The whole Mongol empire)" in 1206
- by the age of 1500 there was almost nothing left from mongol empire only a remaining small khanates such as central mongols, djungar (western mongols) south easter n mongols were in conflict for supremacy over each other like in ancients times.
Xiongnu and Tuoba were indeed Turkic
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
only the Turkic Gaoju origin of the Hephthalites should be retained as indicative of their primary ethnicity.[82]
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車,[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu
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According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.[18][19]
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.[84][85]
Uyghur Khagans claimed descent from the Xiongnu (according to Chinese history Weishu, the founder of the Uyghur Khaganate was descended from a Xiongnu ruler).[86]
Both the 7th-century Chinese History of the Northern Dynasties[87] and the Book of Zhou,[88] an inscription in the Sogdian language, report the Göktürks to be a subgroup of the Xiongnu.[89][90]
Tiele are originally Xiongnu's splinter stocks. As Tujue are strong and prosperous, all Tiele districts (郡) are divided and scattered, the masses gradually dwindled and weakened. Until the beginning of Wude [era], there have been Xueyantuo, Qibi, Huihe, Dubo, Guligan, Duolange, Pugu, Bayegu, Tongluo, Hun, Sijie, Huxue, Xijie, Adie, Baixi, etc. scattered in the northern wastelands.
- Jiu Tangshu, 199, lower
Xianbei and Khitans were Para-Mongolic NOT Mongolic
@@papazataklaattiranimam wtf turco???
your acestors is dunhu , hunnus closer to turkics , even to Hungars . Gengis han also used turkic forces (kereis , naimans was turkic speakers. Read Rashid ad Dinn)
@@t3ngrist620 who is dunhus , tell me little mongol
Brother chini
Tell me about man
All hail Turkic and Mongolian empires!
Han and Xiongnu were both descendants of Hsia. Anyway the Xiongnu were fully assimilated into the Chinese nation between the Fall of the Han dynasty and the Rise of the Tang dynasty.
Turkic history start!
Of Turkic origin
Iskitlere Irani diyenler var Avrupa Hunlara Germanic veya Irani diyenler var. Asya Hunlara ise Moğol/ Yenisey/ Irani veya Uralic diyenler var. Bu çok yüzüçü hepsi Türk Düşmanlari :(
Not Modu Chanyu This İs Mete Han
Why does his name sound so much like Shan Yu from Mulan?
Chanyu (pronounced Shanyu) is a title that they used to name that villain in Mulan.
@@CoolHistoryBros That explains is!
Fun fact: Modu Chanyu is the modern chinese mandarin reading of the Turkic title Bayatur Tarqan/Batur Tarkhan.
突厥和蒙古都认为自己是匈奴,有意思
Modu chanyu or in its proper Turkic/Mongolian spelling Baator Darqan.
3:15 🤔 hmmm
Oghuz Khan ❤️
Oghuz Khan ne alaka ?