My favorite Han Dynasty general and there were PLENTY of them. Han Xin was unique, he always marched to the beat of his own drum. Misfits and loners will identify with Han Xin, he was as individualistic as can be, he never fit in, but he had a great mind and obviously a brilliant strategist. Arguably it was Xin who finally brought Xiang Yu to his knees and led to Xiang's final defeat at Gaixia battle. Xin got a bum deal later on bc Liu Bang promised he wouldn't be killed under certain pretext, but Liu's devious wife Empress Lu and Xiao He conspired and still killed him. Without Xin arguably there would be no Han Dynasty.
Liu bang is a trash, goofy, womanizer, opportunist! Because of his sworn brothers and officials esp Han Xin he won the battle. Then after he killed them all. Xiang Yu is better than him. He never abandoned all of his comrades and only wife until the end.
@@nhojjohn6894 Xiang had his own problems. He was emotional and short-tempered, made some bad decisions on big occasions. He could've killed Liu Bang at Hon Men Banquet 鴻門宴 at his advisor's suggestion but chose not to. With Liu killed there would be no future battles. Xiang also burned all of Qin Shi Huang's opulent palaces, supposedly all of Qin's beautiful palaces surpassed any on Earth to this day. In comparison, Buckingham, Versailles or even the Forbidden City in Beijing PALED in comparison to Qin Shi Huang's palaces. Xiang also slaughtered masses without hesitation, which really turned popular opinion against him while Liu always told his men not to loot or kill conquered cities, that's how Liu slowly won the favor of the population
It's dame if you do, dame if you don't. If he obeyed all Liu Bang's orders, he would not have won the battles. E.g. Once, he was forced to give nearly the all the army men (500,000 strong that he accumulated during his victorious battles) to Liu Bang who then lead an attack against Xiang Yu's 30,000 and lost.
I think if you shine brightly enough or just pure badass, you can survive the master's wrath. Georgy Zhukov won so hard against Germany that Stalin got jealous of his fame. But Zhukov was too bright and heroic, so instead, Stalin just sent him to a shitty post in Siberia.
Seems pretty universal but people didn’t understand that. It’s hard for people to keep humble when they succeed. Especially when you’ve come from a disadvantaged background. Not many people in history kept humility all the way to the end.
Xiao He was the one chasing Han Xin for days and the one who schemed for his 💀. There is a Chinese saying, “Success and failure with Xiao He”. Please do a video for Xiao He character.
That's why Liu Bang is forever remembered as the dishonorable emperor. The fact that all his former allies knew he'd changed after forming Han and left or killed. He also betrayed and killed his own blood brother although to be fair they did tried to threaten him by taking his parents hostage but nevertheless they never killed any of the family members and was merely bluffing. Although Han prosper under his rule, he was mostly just a carefree kind of guy who knew he was incompetent but know enough to let competent men handle the state affairs while cowardly enough to recognize threats and dispose of them asap
@borray s of course it's their nature xang was too short-sighted and egotistical as much as he was ruthless so he can't blame anyone but himself for losing an empire. If the 2 traits were combined as a single person that's a formidable person I'd imagine
I always mesmerized by the facts that many great persons in the past achieved many things before 40 years old. Han Xin became a general at 25 and died at 35 (although executed) as a powerful man. While today, a person at 25 years of age typically just gathering a few years of job experience
Today's version of Han Xin would be celebrities including famous CEOs, singers, athletes, or actors. By age 25 they achieve the modern version of a highly successful life.
In the past, people have a short lifespan on average. If one lives to 50, he could be considered old. The environment is completely different. The situation back in the past was so bad if one does not become tough and strive hard to survive, one will perish easily. You don’t need to see that far. Those born in the booming years ;post world war are definitely hardier and mentally stronger than the present generation who live a relatively’ couch potato’ lifestyle.
True, but there is the opposite too. Liu Bang was 48 when he started his rebellion and managed to push on to become Emperor at the age of 54, ruling for seven years after that. This is another way in which Liu Bang and Xiang Yu were quite different. Xiang Yu was a very young man, where as Liu Bang would, on most accounts, be seen as near his death bed throughout the entirety of his career.
People of old times had more freedom in their teenage years. We in the contemporary times are busy with school and college until early 20s, while people back then had to decide their path of life once they are no longer kids.
fact: According to Shiji, after the battle of Jing Xing, Han Xin's subordinates asked him: - Sun Tzu once said: "When deploying troops, rivers in front and to the left, mountains behind and to the right" so that we could use rivers to slow the enemy advances and mountains to defend our rear. You did the opposite of what the book said but emerged victorious, we don't understand how could this be possible ? Han Xin told them: - You all read the books but know only a few things. Yes, Sun Tzu did say that in his book, but didn't he also said: "Put them in the dead situations so they could fight for their life" ? Our army was formed by rag tag peasants and was no match for Zhao's elite troops, if I let them a chance to escape, don't you think they would not run for their life ? By placing my army in front of the river, therefore blocking the only escape route. Since there was nowhere to run, everyone must used all their strength to fight for their life. Against such ferocities, how could the Zhao still hope for victory ?
yeah the mongols have always used a tactic which is to surround their enemies but leave them an escape route deliberately so that they would focus on escaping instead of fighting to the end...very smart indeed.
@@Dr_Doe Because in Ma Su, the enemy or Wei Army refused to directly engage with them, but instead wore them down by cutting off water & food supplies. This was the same with the Zhao Kuo in Zhao v. Qin. Han Xin's tactics worked because he knew his opponent was overly confident and impatient, wanting to end it quickly in a full-frontal assault.
The lesson learnt from Han Xin's demise is that you should be consistent before your boss. You should always be a backscratcher or always be an outspoken officer :)
Here is an alternate theory. Maybe Han Xin was playing the long game, and he hired his former bully so that he could send him to die in a war anytime. 😂
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Liu Bang: In my case, how many soldiers could I lead into battles ? Han Xin: Your Majesty could lead an army of 100.000 soldiers most. Liu Bang: And what about you? Han Xin: The more the merrier. Liu Bang: Then why are you still subdued by me ? Han Xin: Because Your Majesty's ability is leading generals, not soldiers. Beside, your talent was a gift from Heaven, no other man could have it, so I have no choices but to obey your will. Liu Bang: Ha ha ha, you're probably right (read: Damn, this bastard's gonna betray me later no doubt)
wife: what's the chance for him to betray you? Liu Bang: about 50% wife: what's the chance for you to outlive him with your current age? Liu Bang: about 0% wife: now what's the chance for him to betray your son that will replace you? Liu Bang: er................. wife: good night Emperor.
HanXin was a genius, his action and conversation are not understandable by his fellows, even ZhangLiang and XiaoHe consider him like another division. It was ZhangLiang effort to guide LiuBang to make him fight for LiuBang at final moment. Nobody really knows how loyal he is to the Han. Under this situation when peace had come, he looks more like threat instead
I finished Netflix’s 2019 “Kong’s War” on Han Chu contention. Interesting, 80 episodes long but very good content. Showed good perspective of Han Xian’s rise and down fall.
@@condorX2 I really like Han Xin as a general but as a leader? not so much. (He had betrayed Qi kingdom, causing thousands of innocent lives lost, due to that Qi people hated Han Xin, making his ground as a kingdom[Qi was Han Xin's biggest, richest land] kinda risky - in contrast, Liu Bang was LOVED by Qin' people cuz he promised them mercy, he had 'Xiao He' the absolute mad lad too) Also while the war of North were going on, There were a lot of Liu Bangs spies watching Han Xin. for example, when Liu Bang ran away with literally NOTHING, he pretended as a Han' messanger and got through Han Xin's whole security, STEALING his army which is pretty stupid for Han Xin unless among his men were a spy, letting Liu Bang pass through. And, Han Xin's partner in North war, Zhāng ěr, was Liu Bang's bff, who would betray and kill Han Xin if nessasary (I suspect Thats why Liu sent his bff WITH Han Xin to North)
@@junichiroyamashitanot really NTR, cause the girl is just a crush, not Han Xin’s lover or anything, and when he becomes a famous general he have no shortage of woman, so I don’t think he care that much.
He partially deserved it. Han Xin is never known for his political acuity. He even begs to be promoted to a feudal lord of Qi during the heat of war. It is so low of that half request half threat, even Li Bang is mad.
@Empty Chaotic impossible to kill a general as Han Xin’s accomplishments without the emperor’s acknowledgment. Liu Bang basically wanted Han Xin dead, but couldn’t exactly order it himself as it would make him look bad to the people (killing someone who hard carried the war, Liu Bang would be nothing otherwise), so whether Emperess Lu knew this or Emperor Liu Bang told her, Empress Lu had Han Xin executed.
He was betrayed three times, the last one got his life. Well the path of a hero was not flowerish. He was kind, helpful, smart, skillful but often ignored and betrayed. His story in Hero's Dream was cool too, eventhough added with a fiction.
@@stoopidyoutubehandle He deserved it. 1. Without Han Xin the Han state will never won the war and found Han dynasty. 2. From Han Xin prowess he could broke from Liu Bang and eventually defeated all warlord and found his own empire. 3. Han Xin built Liu Bang army from scratch and follow him until his death...
@@hchicken7188 There is not enough information to make a comparison. a general (if we are talking about war) is measured by personal skill and by the enemies he has fought. according to the standards of legendary generals throughout history, he does not have the necessary qualities to be a legend ... for example Alexander the Great is considered brilliant because he faced a great enemy, a very empire. He is remembered for his brilliant strategy skills, but little for the enemies ... as the enemies were not great fighters for the Hellenic standards. Hannibal fought against Rome, and that is enough. Modern historians take into consideration all peoples and their history ( they don't like to make comparisons, they prefer to say if he's a great general, legendary or bad, etc.), many are considered great generals ...however some are legendary and recognized around the world as legends and not just by their own country (each country believes they have the best general).
Han xin is a my favorite man in chinese histroy. he was a genius of military strategy and was a most powerful weapon of Liu bang but he had flaws about communication skill. but this is rather a charming point to him. generally people like Thress state of historty in 後漢 but I love battle of chu and han history.
Bro do u draw all the stuff? this art style is REALLY good ! Also I like your armors are not some fake/too weird looking modern armors that Chinese media usually use XD
god like in military achievement. childish in politics and social behavior. kind of like xiang yu still got that noble ideology passed from the warring state.
Whenever I think about Han Xin, I pity him for him getting executed but then I remember he's the reason Qi kingdom turned to Xiang Wu by disobeying Liu Bang and attacking Qi KNOWING they already surrendered to Han' ..causing Liu Bang's loyal man killed, many people dying for nothing. bro what a dick move! But then again I feel kinda sorry for his god damn talent he'd been a lotta help with the Xiōngnú that took place shortly afterwards/ SO yeah I got some mixed feelings towards Han Xin lmao.
nah, he must die, he became the biggest threat to Liu Bang's power, if not because Xiao He keep showing his obedience and lack of ambition to take up power, he wouldn't live that long as well, this was an extremely typical end result in each riot/revolution throughout Chinese history, whoever come to power through military campaign often executed all those who help him won the crown, look into Tang Dynasty's emperor, or Song Dynasty, Ming Dynasty, even we go back all the way to Spring and Autumn period, the very same thing happen over and over again. Only a very few clever individual enough to redraw safely after the military campaign, because the New Emperor never likes to share his kingdom with anyone!
I was told that my ancestor is Han Xin and there were 2 Han Xin at that time don't know which one but both died thanks to Liu Bang . To avoid execution , we had to change our family name from 韓 to 韋 , basically one part of the Kanji was removed , my uncle was also a three-star rank general in modern army , guess that our bloodline
When Han Xin, as King of Chu and had a larger force than LiuBang, he should have rebelled. He should have allied with Xiang Yu first and then defeat Xiang Yu later.
Note that Liu Bang did not even have the abilities to run the revolution alone. He did have good generals helping him on the run to build the Han dynasty though. Han Xin was one of them.
Bullying is not beneficial. It is cruel and unecessary. Why pick on peoples' weaknesses instead of kindly pointing it out to them and giving them advice to help? People who were bullied and still kept going and/or became a better version of themselves: The bullying did not make you stronger. YOU did.
Bullying is a part of nature. Nothing within nature is evil. It simply is. It only serves to strengthen what providence has granted. Whether it be weakness of strength, cowardice or courage. And none of these are discernable factors pre-mortem. Only in death do we know what one's legacy will be. In the case of Han xin, he will inspire even those on the opposite ends of the world. Same can be said of many who were bullied. My best friend endured much bullying in his time, even at times from me... yet he is indeed the most noble man I've ever met. Hands down. He'd give the shirt off his back to keep even those who bullied him warm. I know this to be true from firsthand experience. Yet nor is he weak... he can outperform even me in the line of work. And I've been called the messiah at my current workplace for months now. It's quite exhausting honestly...
I don't think Xiao He was that altruistic when he recruited Han Xin. Han Xin most likely had a lot of spies or snitches to take such calculated actions. Han Xin might have been the biggest reason why the Han Dynasty ended up abandoning the decentralized fengjian system from pre-Qin times.
Even though, the Han Dynasty became one of the golden age of China, I never really liked Liu Bang. The guy is the typical « from rags to riches » but not a good one. He is so bad that he even picked the cruelest woman to be his empress. Of the two, she must’ve been the one wearing the pants.
@@apollo1055 Well, It's a power vacuum in the Han imperial court. The empress indeed outlived the emperor and temporarily ruled the empire with an iron fist. [She was a power hunger woman but the other action she committed benefits the empire greatly]. Until she sicked and sudden death that her clan lost all the power. [She died too fast so her clan didn't have enough time to strengthen their power]
@@hidefreek6905 Keep in mind a lot of these historical records are usually exaggerated, with most stories fabricated or can't be traced to a reliable source. Lu Zhi's cruelty was known, but was she cruel to that kind of extent ? It's hard to say, eliminating her son's potential rivals to the throne is pretty much standard monarch business. Also, Liu Bang's rags to riches story is the norm rather than the exception in empire building. No one in history had ever became emperor or a ruler by virtue.
It'd be pretty neat to unlock Han Xin in Romance of the Three Kingdoms 14. Zhang Liang and Xiao He is unlocked, but gonna be a while until I unlock Han Xin and Liu Bang.
Have you watched/heard the Hamilton broadway show? Your story telling reminds me a lot of that xD Set your words to rap music and we may just have a hit Chinese Musical in America !!!
Wu Qi, Han Xin, Yue Fei and those heroes from Water Margin is tragic hero, they deserved better fate but hey it is not China history without tragic tales.
There are also many stories about good beginnings and good endings, such as Emperor Guangwu of the Han Dynasty and his generals, and Emperor Taizong of the Tang Dynasty and his men.
Han Xian was killed by bamboo weapons because Liu promise he won't be die by military weapons and also hang by the bell because the promise of Liu is if he can walk on ground and can look up on sun he will not be killed by emperor order literally that also true
I hate that book 48 Laws of Power, it's the epitome of everything wrong with the world, and how narcissism is out of control. Han Xin forgave his bully and returned a favour, he showed humbleness and non-entitlement. A leader wouldn't become jealous of their apprentice. Very interesting anyway, there is a legend that Han Xin invented chess which led me this video. His story has some similarities with Alexander the Great.
Wow... this is great inspiration material to make dnd games... its incredible this side of the world (Argentina) dont even mention anything of chinnese culture, even though they are one of, if not, the most ancient and influential cultures of history... Great vid CJ
How would han xin and xiang yu have done against the xiongnu? What were the plans on dealing with them? Chinese history has all these legendary generals that seemed to do well against other Chinese generals, but not so much with the northern tribes.
The Qin Dynasty and the mid-late Western Han Dynasty generals performed very well against the northern tribes. Qin general Meng Tian was said to have driven the Xiongnu north by several hundred miles. Western Han generals Huo Qubing and Wei Qing destroyed several Xiongnu armies and chased them as far north as Lake Baikal in modern day Russia. The early Western Han Dynasty on the other hand didn't perform well because they were still exhausted from the Qin Dynasty Rebellion & Chu-Han Contention/War of 18 Kingdoms and also lacked sufficient cavalry to engage the Xiongnu on favorable terms. The Kings and Generals channel has a video about the Battle of Mobei that happened during the middle of the Western Han Dynasty: ua-cam.com/video/iQ7jDwF2Z2w/v-deo.html
As for plans to defeat the Xiongnu - it involved large armies of cavalry and mounted infantry, equipped with lots of crossbows, bows, polearms (eg. halberds, pikes, spears, etc), and light field artillery. The Han Dynasty also sometimes used armored wagons that were linked up to create wagon forts which were used as defensive positions that archers and crossbowmen could fire from. Here are some examples: "At the Battle of Mobei in 119 BC the Han general, Wei Qing, used rings of heavily armed chariots, or wu gang, first to break Xiongnu charges, and then to launch a successful counter-attack. These vehicles protected infantry and crossbowmen from Xiongnu arrows and gave them the security to be able to shoot back accurately. Han cavalry dealt with any Xiongnu who broke through." -Great Walls and Linear Barriers By Peter Spring "One of the best recorded expeditions involved an infantry force consisting of 5,000 veteran soldiers led by an experienced Han general named Li Ling. In 101 BC Li Ling led his regiment north into the Mongolian steppe in an attempt to provoke an engagement with the Xiongnu...they wore jacket like coats of lamellar armour fashioned from rawhide leather and steel platelets and carried bows for trajectory missile fire and crossbows for long range marksmanship. They traveled with a defensive line of reinforced supply wagons carrying a store of half a million steel tipped arrows and crossbow bolts. Li Ling marched his regiment several hundred miles into Xiongnu territory and then waited for the enemy to attack. On the chosen battlefield, the Chinese supply wagons were drawn up into a defensive ring with the soldiers arranged in ranks around this protective position. The front line troops were equipped with long steel pikes to deter oncoming cavalry charges, while the inner ranks were placed in dense order and stood ready to fire bows and crossbows at any approaching target..." -The Roman Empire and the Silk Routes: The Ancient World Economy & the Empires of Parthia, Central Asia & Han China by Raoul McLaughlin
Why Liu Bang wins? Because he's not short sighted instead he is pragmatic and has long term goals, in other words it's called "ideals". V from Vendetta: Ideals are bulletproof.
You have a great channel here. I enjoy learning about history. I cannot however understand the use of 'B.C.E.' and 'C.E.' What about the era makes it common? Why did time count up to a certain date and count down from it? Instead, why not use B.C. and A.D.? Or, just use a different calendar system.
Amongst all the feats of Han Xin, defeating Xian Yu is the most significant, Xian Yu was a true god of war, and his military accomplishment is only comparable to the god himself.
The greatest general in Chinese history who never lost a single battle. That said, are you planning to do a video on,say, Yi Soon-Shin, Kang Kam-Chan or Kwon Yool in the future? Korean generals deserve some love too.
Definitely! But there is going to be quite a few centuries until I get to those characters. However, I am doing a series on Tang dynasty right now and Goguryeo will be featured pretty soon.
@@arishemghoul9571 From a purely military point-of-view, Cao Cao was good at choosing and delegating commanders, incorporating innovative generals and tactics, and - to a somewhat lesser extent - handling logistics and taking risks. Han Xin was good at using terrain, battlefield manouvres, psychology, geopolitics, and his own personal genius. And though he was commander-in-chief for some 5 years only, and fought half the battles of Cao Cao, he remained undefeated, and won decisively every time. That’s why, for me, Han Xin ranks first, with Cao Cao being a close second. Bai Qi and Li Jing both share the same third spot.
Han Xin: my favorite general in all of Chinese history. appalling how he and his family were executed. he is the one that left phrase that goes something like 'after hunt, dog is eaten'. I don't know how to write it, never mind pronounce it so it'd be cool if Cool History Bros leave that in comment.
狡兔死 良狗烹 ; 飞鸟尽 良弓藏 Jiao Tu Si Liang Gou Peng ; Fei Niao Jin Liang Gong Cang After the tricky rabbit is dead, the hound is cooked After the birds are shot, the bow is put away
I highly recommend the wuxia series named Hero's Dream or 天意 in Chinese. It has the time travel twist in it, but otherwise a very entertaining story about Han Xin and his battle with Xiang Yu.
Yes. and I love the potrayal of Han Xin there. He was talented in warfare, righteous and kind but well being betrayed by his own "friends". That drama at least gave a warm feeling for the audience as it has happy ending, that the bond of three han heroes were strong till the end, however as for the real one the history said the reversal. Han Xin's life as a hero was not easy and flowerish.
He was surrounded but he has a lethal weapon. Unsheathe that sword meaning bloodshed, and he does not have a good chance to win. For someone believes a higher purpose, Choosing the humiliation is probably the best diffusion.
When I was little, I made fun of Han Xin as being "Gutless" during the incident where he have to crawl underneath a bully, but my parents told me what Han Xin did was actually much brave, because Han Xin himself know he is powerless at the moment and would swallow his pride and crawl and hoping one day he will take his revenge.
If Liu Bang was an RPG character he would have spent all his exp points on luck n charisma rather than intelligence or strength and still won the game.
This is false. Liu Bang still needed to have almost godly intelligence to become emperor. You pretty much can't find a single founding emperor, Chinese or any other nationality, who doesn't have at least a respectable degree of intelligence.
@borray s That is kind of silly. No one ever in life has ever had a perfect, winning record. Even emperors (or, in Liu Bang's case, would-be emperors) experience setbacks. Take the Roman Empire, for example. Its predecessor, the Republic, was ragdolled a TON by Hannibal and suffered some CRAZY defeats and number of deaths before finally turning it all around and becoming a top world empire. Would you say that it achieved all that primarily because of "divine fate"? That would be ignoring all the crazy logistics, strategy, political organization, etc., that Rome's armies and officials possessed. Ain't nothing divine or lucky about that if your W comes with those credentials. Same thing with Liu Bang -- he is pretty much the individual equivalent of the Roman Empire. He never screwed up so badly that his other strengths didn't allow him to win the day. Remember: he was no Xiang Yu in battle (although he was still an above-average military commander) _because he didn't need to be._ He had strategic thinking, charisma, people management skills that allowed him to get Han Xin to be his anti-Xiang Yu. Again, was Liu Bang perfect and did he never have any weaknesses ever? No. Did his strengths prove sufficient and suitable to winning in the environment that he was in? Completely. No gods needed.
Maybe... But unlikely because of the many fundamental reasons why the xiongnu historically kept winning (better horses, nomadic advantage over urban). Be clear that the Han did not get conquered by the xiongnu. It was just too troublesome to keep fighting. Had the Han have a reason to fight the Xiongnu to the end, the economic stronger Han would probably win but at a big cost.
@@dabo5078 Not conquer...only defeated. The xiongnu being nomads have no cities or towns to be conquered. The xiongnu were pure nomads meaning they relied on raiding the Han for almost everything not naturally available or abundant. With their inability to raid anymore, the xiongnu started to decline and were eventually chased out by the semi-nomadic groups who rose to power in the xiongnu vacuum. These new groups combined agriculture and their nomadic pastural ways to be more self sufficient and able to sustain through trading instead of raiding the Han.
The two “Han” are written differently and have different meanings. When Chinese names are converted to the alphabet, a lot of similar sounding names are simplified into a common name.
The two Han are different character. One is Han with a heavy tone, another is Han with a neutral tone. Chinese is a tonal language. E.g. The sound Mao, can be interpret as "Cat", "Spear", "Hat", "Flourish", "fur/feather". The Han Dynasty is 汉, while Han Xin's Han is 韩
What is Han Dynasty??? Where do they come from??? Han Dynasty originated from the Han State during the Warring State period of china. It started when the Zhou Dynasty divide the land which they get from the battle against Shang Dynasty, Zhou Dynasty give his relatives, subordinates a land and from them they started to expand their dynasty. Every Zhou Royals create their own states and that's why during the Warring stares period. There many Chinese states who comes from the Zhou Royals.
Yeah, that's an interesting thought. He is a great general, but we don't really know what civil policies he would adopt as an emperor. He only reigned as the king of Chu for 1 year.
@@stevej1235 he was surrounded by advisors and talents people. He could rule pretty well. It's pity he was killed by the emperor wife because she fear for his popularity, even after they united all of China.
@@chairmanbowl4085 And as the video said he did everything he could to annoy Liu Bang: blackmailing him, didn't show up when summoned... He was used to Liu Bang catering to his whims during the war like making him king of Qi and forgot Liu Bang didn't need a great general anymore
Everybody speaks like they know strategy and politic. Yes! Han Xin contributed a lot to the Han hegemony. But Han Xin was an arrogant person who didn't even give a single damn to Liu Bang's brothers. Han Xin who held the largest force after the death of Xiang Yu decided it's not time to rebel due to Liu Bang popularity. However Liu Bang was already at the end of his life. Once he's dead, everyone knew Han Xin would declare himself as new emperor which would replace the Han dynasty that barely lasted a decade. Han Xin was too dangerous to be left alive and China would once again (or even forever) never become an Empire. It's very common for ruler to assassinate their own generals who deemed too dangerous. Zhou Yu was poisoned after he stepped too far and arranged the marriage of Sun Shanxiang to Liu Bei (it's not happy ending, as history recorded Sun Shanxiang ended up suicide after she returned to Wu with her son held hostage by Zhao Yun). The person who replaced Zhou as great commander title, Lu Meng was also assassinated when he disobeyed Sun Quan and executed Guan Yu to prolong the war and expanded his power.
It proves we don’t need Facebook to spread rumors. Where would liu pang be without xiao he? The series king’s war claims that xiao he used to be liu pang’s old boss. Han xin: robert Greene, where r you?!? (Favorite book 📚)
Han Xin had won so many battles with so little weak and disadvantages position and army,given today this modern time if u ask all the generals in this world,who could he had won so many remarkable battles,the generals of this modern era also don’t know who he could do that
Again .. the universal question ... who is stronger, the nameless man without penis vs Han Xin? The answer is the nameless man.. That is why after century it born 10 powerful man without penis and created romance of the three kingdoms.. Three cheers to the nameless man. Who was the first powerful nameless man?
My favorite Han Dynasty general and there were PLENTY of them.
Han Xin was unique, he always marched to the beat of his own drum.
Misfits and loners will identify with Han Xin, he was as individualistic as can be, he never fit in, but he had a great mind and obviously a brilliant strategist.
Arguably it was Xin who finally brought Xiang Yu to his knees and led to Xiang's final defeat at Gaixia battle.
Xin got a bum deal later on bc Liu Bang promised he wouldn't be killed under certain pretext, but Liu's devious wife Empress Lu and Xiao He conspired and still killed him.
Without Xin arguably there would be no Han Dynasty.
Liu bang is a trash, goofy, womanizer, opportunist! Because of his sworn brothers and officials esp Han Xin he won the battle. Then after he killed them all. Xiang Yu is better than him. He never abandoned all of his comrades and only wife until the end.
@@nhojjohn6894 Xiang had his own problems.
He was emotional and short-tempered, made some bad decisions on big occasions.
He could've killed Liu Bang at Hon Men Banquet 鴻門宴 at his advisor's suggestion but chose not to.
With Liu killed there would be no future battles.
Xiang also burned all of Qin Shi Huang's opulent palaces, supposedly all of Qin's beautiful palaces surpassed any on Earth to this day.
In comparison, Buckingham, Versailles or even the Forbidden City in Beijing PALED in comparison to Qin Shi Huang's palaces.
Xiang also slaughtered masses without hesitation, which really turned popular opinion against him while Liu always told his men not to loot or kill conquered cities, that's how Liu slowly won the favor of the population
“Never outshine your master" seems to be a pretty universal thing.
It's dame if you do, dame if you don't. If he obeyed all Liu Bang's orders, he would not have won the battles. E.g. Once, he was forced to give nearly the all the army men (500,000 strong that he accumulated during his victorious battles) to Liu Bang who then lead an attack against Xiang Yu's 30,000 and lost.
I think if you shine brightly enough or just pure badass, you can survive the master's wrath. Georgy Zhukov won so hard against Germany that Stalin got jealous of his fame. But Zhukov was too bright and heroic, so instead, Stalin just sent him to a shitty post in Siberia.
@@billyaepicgamer8642 don't compare Stalin with Liu Bang.
Seems pretty universal but people didn’t understand that. It’s hard for people to keep humble when they succeed. Especially when you’ve come from a disadvantaged background. Not many people in history kept humility all the way to the end.
@@limitstream Didn't say a thing about Liu Bang. Please stop.
Xiao He was the one chasing Han Xin for days and the one who schemed for his 💀. There is a Chinese saying, “Success and failure with Xiao He”. Please do a video for Xiao He character.
YES he is SOOO underrated man I mean this dude is literally the best bro-minister an emperor can ever imagine
And Xiao He died of empress Li or not?
@@alexlo7708 nope
"Success and Fall due to Xiao He, Life and Death from two women"
Kings war
That's why Liu Bang is forever remembered as the dishonorable emperor. The fact that all his former allies knew he'd changed after forming Han and left or killed. He also betrayed and killed his own blood brother although to be fair they did tried to threaten him by taking his parents hostage but nevertheless they never killed any of the family members and was merely bluffing. Although Han prosper under his rule, he was mostly just a carefree kind of guy who knew he was incompetent but know enough to let competent men handle the state affairs while cowardly enough to recognize threats and dispose of them asap
@borray s of course it's their nature xang was too short-sighted and egotistical as much as he was ruthless so he can't blame anyone but himself for losing an empire. If the 2 traits were combined as a single person that's a formidable person I'd imagine
It takes a scoundrel to win a battle. Can't have a good hearted man to kill but a scoundrel would do it any day
Welcome to Politics my 12 year old boi.
@@Aciel_Yu cant say the same for our current state of affairs today 😝
I always mesmerized by the facts that many great persons in the past achieved many things before 40 years old. Han Xin became a general at 25 and died at 35 (although executed) as a powerful man. While today, a person at 25 years of age typically just gathering a few years of job experience
Today's version of Han Xin would be celebrities including famous CEOs, singers, athletes, or actors. By age 25 they achieve the modern version of a highly successful life.
In the past, people have a short lifespan on average. If one lives to 50, he could be considered old. The environment is completely different. The situation back in the past was so bad if one does not become tough and strive hard to survive, one will perish easily. You don’t need to see that far. Those born in the booming years ;post world war are definitely hardier and mentally stronger than the present generation who live a relatively’ couch potato’ lifestyle.
True, but there is the opposite too. Liu Bang was 48 when he started his rebellion and managed to push on to become Emperor at the age of 54, ruling for seven years after that. This is another way in which Liu Bang and Xiang Yu were quite different. Xiang Yu was a very young man, where as Liu Bang would, on most accounts, be seen as near his death bed throughout the entirety of his career.
@@HighPriestFuneral excellent point about late bloomers. It's never too late to change the world. "Better late than never."
People of old times had more freedom in their teenage years. We in the contemporary times are busy with school and college until early 20s, while people back then had to decide their path of life once they are no longer kids.
fact: According to Shiji, after the battle of Jing Xing, Han Xin's subordinates asked him:
- Sun Tzu once said: "When deploying troops, rivers in front and to the left, mountains behind and to the right" so that we could use rivers to slow the enemy advances and mountains to defend our rear. You did the opposite of what the book said but emerged victorious, we don't understand how could this be possible ?
Han Xin told them:
- You all read the books but know only a few things. Yes, Sun Tzu did say that in his book, but didn't he also said: "Put them in the dead situations so they could fight for their life" ? Our army was formed by rag tag peasants and was no match for Zhao's elite troops, if I let them a chance to escape, don't you think they would not run for their life ? By placing my army in front of the river, therefore blocking the only escape route. Since there was nowhere to run, everyone must used all their strength to fight for their life. Against such ferocities, how could the Zhao still hope for victory ?
yeah the mongols have always used a tactic which is to surround their enemies but leave them an escape route deliberately so that they would focus on escaping instead of fighting to the end...very smart indeed.
Ma Su tried to do a Han Xin but failed miserably.
@@Dr_Doe Because in Ma Su, the enemy or Wei Army refused to directly engage with them, but instead wore them down by cutting off water & food supplies. This was the same with the Zhao Kuo in Zhao v. Qin. Han Xin's tactics worked because he knew his opponent was overly confident and impatient, wanting to end it quickly in a full-frontal assault.
The lesson learnt from Han Xin's demise is that you should be consistent before your boss. You should always be a backscratcher or always be an outspoken officer :)
Lesson learnt is: Even though you have great achievement, you have to stay humble and not to openly boast about it.
Here is an alternate theory. Maybe Han Xin was playing the long game, and he hired his former bully so that he could send him to die in a war anytime. 😂
Ooo - the plot thickens
If he became emperor, he might be like Aurelian of Rome. Very warlike and heroic but not much of an astute politician
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Liu Bang: In my case, how many soldiers could I lead into battles ?
Han Xin: Your Majesty could lead an army of 100.000 soldiers most.
Liu Bang: And what about you?
Han Xin: The more the merrier.
Liu Bang: Then why are you still subdued by me ?
Han Xin: Because Your Majesty's ability is leading generals, not soldiers. Beside, your talent was a gift from Heaven, no other man could have it, so I have no choices but to obey your will.
Liu Bang: Ha ha ha, you're probably right (read: Damn, this bastard's gonna betray me later no doubt)
wife: what's the chance for him to betray you?
Liu Bang: about 50%
wife: what's the chance for you to outlive him with your current age?
Liu Bang: about 0%
wife: now what's the chance for him to betray your son that will replace you?
Liu Bang: er.................
wife: good night Emperor.
HanXin was a genius, his action and conversation are not understandable by his fellows, even ZhangLiang and XiaoHe consider him like another division. It was ZhangLiang effort to guide LiuBang to make him fight for LiuBang at final moment. Nobody really knows how loyal he is to the Han. Under this situation when peace had come, he looks more like threat instead
The pro bullying argument at the end came out of left field.
Thank you for the brilliant summary!
If you search up one of his war strategy plan, you will see how incredibly astonishing and intelligent it is
I finished Netflix’s 2019 “Kong’s War” on Han Chu contention. Interesting, 80 episodes long but very good content. Showed good perspective of Han Xian’s rise and down fall.
Yep. I love the series.
I wonder what the war would be like if Han Xi had rebel and created his own kingdom.
He has the best troops too.
@@condorX2 I really like Han Xin as a general but as a leader? not so much. (He had betrayed Qi kingdom, causing thousands of innocent lives lost, due to that Qi people hated Han Xin,
making his ground as a kingdom[Qi was Han Xin's biggest, richest land] kinda risky - in contrast, Liu Bang was LOVED by Qin' people cuz he promised them mercy, he had 'Xiao He' the absolute mad lad too)
Also while the war of North were going on, There were a lot of Liu Bangs spies watching Han Xin.
for example, when Liu Bang ran away with literally NOTHING, he pretended as a Han' messanger and got through Han Xin's whole security, STEALING his army which is pretty stupid for Han Xin unless among his men were a spy, letting Liu Bang pass through. And, Han Xin's partner in North war, Zhāng ěr, was Liu Bang's bff, who would betray and kill Han Xin if nessasary (I suspect Thats why Liu sent his bff WITH Han Xin to North)
@@ihatenwo another story of Han Xin...Hero's dream.
Han Xin was rightful person, he was not cunning. That was why he lost to his own friends.
Fxxk “Kong's War" you made it sounds like King Kong vs Godzilla .. Its called "King's war"
So this 2019 drama is story about Han Xin
One of the outstanding Three of early Han. 汉初三杰!
One more thing , the guy who bullied Han Xin also married Han Xin's crush , but Han Xin still forgave him . What a man !
Thats called NTR in my house but ,eh,good for him good for everybody.
Fact: you watched too much tv drama,the person below you is a porn addict.
@@junichiroyamashitanot really NTR, cause the girl is just a crush, not Han Xin’s lover or anything, and when he becomes a famous general he have no shortage of woman, so I don’t think he care that much.
han xin got a crappy life, in the end, he was executed by the master he served.
He partially deserved it. Han Xin is never known for his political acuity. He even begs to be promoted to a feudal lord of Qi during the heat of war. It is so low of that half request half threat, even Li Bang is mad.
@Empty Chaotic impossible to kill a general as Han Xin’s accomplishments without the emperor’s acknowledgment. Liu Bang basically wanted Han Xin dead, but couldn’t exactly order it himself as it would make him look bad to the people (killing someone who hard carried the war, Liu Bang would be nothing otherwise), so whether Emperess Lu knew this or Emperor Liu Bang told her, Empress Lu had Han Xin executed.
Yeah liubang was a real piece of shite
He was betrayed three times, the last one got his life. Well the path of a hero was not flowerish. He was kind, helpful, smart, skillful but often ignored and betrayed.
His story in Hero's Dream was cool too, eventhough added with a fiction.
@@stoopidyoutubehandle He deserved it.
1. Without Han Xin the Han state will never won the war and found Han dynasty.
2. From Han Xin prowess he could broke from Liu Bang and eventually defeated all warlord and found his own empire.
3. Han Xin built Liu Bang army from scratch and follow him until his death...
As a Berserk fan, the Battle of Jingxing sounds very familiar.
IKR. Griffith must have been reading about him along with the Kamasutra.
I'm here from Berserk
@@HK-sw3vi Ahhh.... I envy the me who wrote that comment...
Glad to see another Berserk fan!
It's likely that this is the inspiration for Kentaro Miura, consider how popular this story is in East Asia, in my opinion
Eclipse is more like the battle of Teutoburg forest
Great video!
This series is incredible!!! Can you do one for General Baiqi? His story is also intriguing!!!
I agree Jess,
The guy who buried alive 450.000 of his enemies soldiers (according to Chinese books) ? Yike !
The most underrated general in world (and Chinese) history!
He's definitely not underrated he's one of the most famous general in Chinese history
Not underrated at all, he's considered by perhaps the majority as the greatest general in the history of China.
@@hchicken7188 u could argue his better than both I say his top 3 or 2 alongside Subutai khalid and Caesar
Not in China tho
@@hchicken7188 There is not enough information to make a comparison. a general (if we are talking about war) is measured by personal skill and by the enemies he has fought. according to the standards of legendary generals throughout history, he does not have the necessary qualities to be a legend ... for example Alexander the Great is considered brilliant because he faced a great enemy, a very empire. He is remembered for his brilliant strategy skills, but little for the enemies ... as the enemies were not great fighters for the Hellenic standards. Hannibal fought against Rome, and that is enough. Modern historians take into consideration all peoples and their history ( they don't like to make comparisons, they prefer to say if he's a great general, legendary or bad, etc.), many are considered great generals ...however some are legendary and recognized around the world as legends and not just by their own country (each country believes they have the best general).
Han Xin was the biggest threat to the crown prince, he had go nightnight but he the goat
Han xin is a my favorite man in chinese histroy. he was a genius of military strategy and was a most powerful weapon of Liu bang but he had flaws about communication skill. but this is rather a charming point to him. generally people like Thress state of historty in 後漢 but I love battle of chu and han history.
Bro do u draw all the stuff? this art style is REALLY good !
Also I like your armors are not some fake/too weird looking modern armors that Chinese media usually use XD
Please make a video of Bai Qi.
Please do the Battle of Changping (262 bce) with all the gentlemen involved.
2:41 this same thing happened to Jackie chan character in the drunken master movie
Good stuff
god like in military achievement. childish in politics and social behavior.
kind of like xiang yu still got that noble ideology passed from the warring state.
Or space marines from the 40k verse. It's culturally known wide that the best warriors make the worst politicians.
So he was the less smarter version of Belisarius. He outshone his master and he got killed for it.
Whenever I think about Han Xin, I pity him for him getting executed but then I remember he's the reason Qi kingdom turned to Xiang Wu by disobeying Liu Bang and attacking Qi KNOWING they already surrendered to Han' ..causing Liu Bang's loyal man killed, many people dying for nothing. bro what a dick move!
But then again I feel kinda sorry for his god damn talent he'd been a lotta help with the Xiōngnú that took place shortly afterwards/
SO yeah I got some mixed feelings towards Han Xin lmao.
nah, he must die, he became the biggest threat to Liu Bang's power, if not because Xiao He keep showing his obedience and lack of ambition to take up power, he wouldn't live that long as well, this was an extremely typical end result in each riot/revolution throughout Chinese history, whoever come to power through military campaign often executed all those who help him won the crown, look into Tang Dynasty's emperor, or Song Dynasty, Ming Dynasty, even we go back all the way to Spring and Autumn period, the very same thing happen over and over again. Only a very few clever individual enough to redraw safely after the military campaign, because the New Emperor never likes to share his kingdom with anyone!
Betrayals were every where even from his close friends
Keep eating tofu dude.
This was dope
Han xin and Han nibal are from the same family.
I was told that my ancestor is Han Xin and there were 2 Han Xin at that time don't know which one but both died thanks to Liu Bang . To avoid execution , we had to change our family name from 韓 to 韋 , basically one part of the Kanji was removed , my uncle was also a three-star rank general in modern army , guess that our bloodline
Great insight thank you
damn, they did u wrong lol. no reason to execute his entire family tbh
I read that surviving Han Xin's descendants changed their clan name to Wei
@@wdynpn That's correct
广西韦氏? dna主要还是南方土著为主
When Han Xin, as King of Chu and had a larger force than LiuBang, he should have rebelled. He should have allied with Xiang Yu first and then defeat Xiang Yu later.
Note that Liu Bang did not even have the abilities to run the revolution alone. He did have good generals helping him on the run to build the Han dynasty though. Han Xin was one of them.
Wasn't he THE only Marshal?
Bullying is not beneficial. It is cruel and unecessary. Why pick on peoples' weaknesses instead of kindly pointing it out to them and giving them advice to help?
People who were bullied and still kept going and/or became a better version of themselves:
The bullying did not make you stronger. YOU did.
Bullying is a part of nature. Nothing within nature is evil. It simply is. It only serves to strengthen what providence has granted. Whether it be weakness of strength, cowardice or courage. And none of these are discernable factors pre-mortem. Only in death do we know what one's legacy will be. In the case of Han xin, he will inspire even those on the opposite ends of the world. Same can be said of many who were bullied. My best friend endured much bullying in his time, even at times from me... yet he is indeed the most noble man I've ever met. Hands down. He'd give the shirt off his back to keep even those who bullied him warm. I know this to be true from firsthand experience. Yet nor is he weak... he can outperform even me in the line of work. And I've been called the messiah at my current workplace for months now. It's quite exhausting honestly...
If they make a new movie about Han Xin, they should cast Xu Kai as him. Wu Jinyan could be the empress that brought him down. 😍😍😍
Hey man your videos are mostly underrated may be you should do some European historical figures to tactically draw attns firstly ?!?
I don't think Xiao He was that altruistic when he recruited Han Xin.
Han Xin most likely had a lot of spies or snitches to take such calculated actions.
Han Xin might have been the biggest reason why the Han Dynasty ended up abandoning the decentralized fengjian system from pre-Qin times.
Even though, the Han Dynasty became one of the golden age of China, I never really liked Liu Bang. The guy is the typical « from rags to riches » but not a good one. He is so bad that he even picked the cruelest woman to be his empress.
Of the two, she must’ve been the one wearing the pants.
@Rizal Disraeli Ramos And Let' her clan (Lv = 吕) ruled the Han until her clan got massacred.
What did she expect. He's an emperor. Your logic is typical white knight logic. Lol
@@apollo1055 Well, It's a power vacuum in the Han imperial court.
The empress indeed outlived the emperor and temporarily ruled the empire with an iron fist. [She was a power hunger woman but the other action she committed benefits the empire greatly].
Until she sicked and sudden death that her clan lost all the power. [She died too fast so her clan didn't have enough time to strengthen their power]
@@hidefreek6905 Keep in mind a lot of these historical records are usually exaggerated, with most stories fabricated or can't be traced to a reliable source. Lu Zhi's cruelty was known, but was she cruel to that kind of extent ? It's hard to say, eliminating her son's potential rivals to the throne is pretty much standard monarch business.
Also, Liu Bang's rags to riches story is the norm rather than the exception in empire building. No one in history had ever became emperor or a ruler by virtue.
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Is there any Drama or Movie about Han Xin?
3:18 how do we know this and apply on a daily basis
The whole Chu Han contention was only 4 years. So what seemed like an eternity of a lifetime is actually a few years.
One fatal mistake and game over. Success tends to create pride and greed.
It'd be pretty neat to unlock Han Xin in Romance of the Three Kingdoms 14. Zhang Liang and Xiao He is unlocked, but gonna be a while until I unlock Han Xin and Liu Bang.
Is there any 3 kingdom history in the making???
Quite the sad end for someone so accomplished.
This happened a lot in Chinese history. Emperor was suspicious and did not trust his generals could be always loyal.
@@peiqiliu319 except Han Xin was...mildly loyal to Liu Bang most of the times.
@@peiqiliu319 This happened a lot in Human history, Ceaser of Rome, Surena of parthia who defeated the roman legion at the battle of carhae etc etc
Have you watched/heard the Hamilton broadway show? Your story telling reminds me a lot of that xD Set your words to rap music and we may just have a hit Chinese Musical in America !!!
Wu Qi, Han Xin, Yue Fei and those heroes from Water Margin is tragic hero, they deserved better fate but hey it is not China history without tragic tales.
There are also many stories about good beginnings and good endings, such as Emperor Guangwu of the Han Dynasty and his generals, and Emperor Taizong of the Tang Dynasty and his men.
Emperor Guangwu of the Han Dynasty was almost a perfect emperor. Be loyal to love, loyal to the country, and treat subordinates well.
Han Xian was killed by bamboo weapons because Liu promise he won't be die by military weapons and also hang by the bell because the promise of Liu is if he can walk on ground and can look up on sun he will not be killed by emperor order literally that also true
I hate that book 48 Laws of Power, it's the epitome of everything wrong with the world, and how narcissism is out of control. Han Xin forgave his bully and returned a favour, he showed humbleness and non-entitlement. A leader wouldn't become jealous of their apprentice. Very interesting anyway, there is a legend that Han Xin invented chess which led me this video. His story has some similarities with Alexander the Great.
Wow... this is great inspiration material to make dnd games... its incredible this side of the world (Argentina) dont even mention anything of chinnese culture, even though they are one of, if not, the most ancient and influential cultures of history... Great vid CJ
What about a Total War saga based on this like Thrones of Brittannia.
@@ReviveHF dude If that happends I might die of happiness lol
he died at 24 ?
How would han xin and xiang yu have done against the xiongnu? What were the plans on dealing with them? Chinese history has all these legendary generals that seemed to do well against other Chinese generals, but not so much with the northern tribes.
he died too early. YueFei were one of the Best in fighting nomads, but also got killed for being too good and outshining the emperor
The Qin Dynasty and the mid-late Western Han Dynasty generals performed very well against the northern tribes. Qin general Meng Tian was said to have driven the Xiongnu north by several hundred miles. Western Han generals Huo Qubing and Wei Qing destroyed several Xiongnu armies and chased them as far north as Lake Baikal in modern day Russia. The early Western Han Dynasty on the other hand didn't perform well because they were still exhausted from the Qin Dynasty Rebellion & Chu-Han Contention/War of 18 Kingdoms and also lacked sufficient cavalry to engage the Xiongnu on favorable terms. The Kings and Generals channel has a video about the Battle of Mobei that happened during the middle of the Western Han Dynasty: ua-cam.com/video/iQ7jDwF2Z2w/v-deo.html
As for plans to defeat the Xiongnu - it involved large armies of cavalry and mounted infantry, equipped with lots of crossbows, bows, polearms (eg. halberds, pikes, spears, etc), and light field artillery. The Han Dynasty also sometimes used armored wagons that were linked up to create wagon forts which were used as defensive positions that archers and crossbowmen could fire from. Here are some examples:
"At the Battle of Mobei in 119 BC the Han general, Wei Qing, used rings of heavily armed chariots, or wu gang, first to break Xiongnu charges, and then to launch a successful counter-attack. These vehicles protected infantry and crossbowmen from Xiongnu arrows and gave them the security to be able to shoot back accurately. Han cavalry dealt with any Xiongnu who broke through." -Great Walls and Linear Barriers By Peter Spring
"One of the best recorded expeditions involved an infantry force consisting of 5,000 veteran soldiers led by an experienced Han general named Li Ling. In 101 BC Li Ling led his regiment north into the Mongolian steppe in an attempt to provoke an engagement with the Xiongnu...they wore jacket like coats of lamellar armour fashioned from rawhide leather and steel platelets and carried bows for trajectory missile fire and crossbows for long range marksmanship. They traveled with a defensive line of reinforced supply wagons carrying a store of half a million steel tipped arrows and crossbow bolts. Li Ling marched his regiment several hundred miles into Xiongnu territory and then waited for the enemy to attack. On the chosen battlefield, the Chinese supply wagons were drawn up into a defensive ring with the soldiers arranged in ranks around this protective position. The front line troops were equipped with long steel pikes to deter oncoming cavalry charges, while the inner ranks were placed in dense order and stood ready to fire bows and crossbows at any approaching target..."
-The Roman Empire and the Silk Routes: The Ancient World Economy & the Empires of Parthia, Central Asia & Han China by Raoul McLaughlin
Nope
Mengtian from Qin dynasty can push those northern tribes.
Han and Tang dynasty had a lot
Why Liu Bang wins? Because he's not short sighted instead he is pragmatic and has long term goals, in other words it's called "ideals".
V from Vendetta: Ideals are bulletproof.
I think bullying can have its benefits (I'm not condoning the action) but it made me stronger as a person
If the HR were invented at that time. HaN Xin still be alive
You have a great channel here. I enjoy learning about history. I cannot however understand the use of 'B.C.E.' and 'C.E.' What about the era makes it common? Why did time count up to a certain date and count down from it? Instead, why not use B.C. and A.D.? Or, just use a different calendar system.
is there an argument that Han Xin might be one of the greatest generals in history?
Some historians say that he was probably the best general in history.
7:40 Xu Huang: looks good, i will copy it.
Wang Ping: no you can't
Fantastic reference. I wonder if that's what Xu Huang was thinking when he set up at the Han River?
@@HighPriestFuneral yes, but he forget that he was facinf Zhao Yun and Huang Zhong, not some idiotic general
From recorded history, it is not difficult to discovered Han Xin is most likely in the ASD spectrum.
he was not "never lost". He did lose to Xiang yu in phencheng, early in his career
True.
Amongst all the feats of Han Xin, defeating Xian Yu is the most significant, Xian Yu was a true god of war, and his military accomplishment is only comparable to the god himself.
Check out 5000 legends for 12 episodes documentary about Han Xin
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The greatest general in Chinese history who never lost a single battle.
That said, are you planning to do a video on,say, Yi Soon-Shin, Kang Kam-Chan or Kwon Yool in the future? Korean generals deserve some love too.
Definitely! But there is going to be quite a few centuries until I get to those characters. However, I am doing a series on Tang dynasty right now and Goguryeo will be featured pretty soon.
I take Cao Cao over him even tho he lost
@@arishemghoul9571 why
@@arishemghoul9571 From a purely military point-of-view, Cao Cao was good at choosing and delegating commanders, incorporating innovative generals and tactics, and - to a somewhat lesser extent - handling logistics and taking risks.
Han Xin was good at using terrain, battlefield manouvres, psychology, geopolitics, and his own personal genius. And though he was commander-in-chief for some 5 years only, and fought half the battles of Cao Cao, he remained undefeated, and won decisively every time.
That’s why, for me, Han Xin ranks first, with Cao Cao being a close second. Bai Qi and Li Jing both share the same third spot.
And he was killed for being useful😔
More like he had outlived his usefulness.
Wow! I never knew I was this famous UvU
so his from han not qin?
his from Chu
So one only has to be rude and dessert a couple of times and they would recognise ones capabilities...
It's not well told!
How random nobodies get promoted to the highest positions in Chinese history is so confusing
Han Xin: my favorite general in all of Chinese history. appalling how he and his family were executed. he is the one that left phrase that goes something like 'after hunt, dog is eaten'. I don't know how to write it, never mind pronounce it so it'd be cool if Cool History Bros leave that in comment.
狡兔死 良狗烹 ; 飞鸟尽 良弓藏
Jiao Tu Si Liang Gou Peng ; Fei Niao Jin Liang Gong Cang
After the tricky rabbit is dead, the hound is cooked
After the birds are shot, the bow is put away
@@MyWickedSmile thank you very much! really appreciate the written form and explanation.
I highly recommend the wuxia series named Hero's Dream or 天意 in Chinese. It has the time travel twist in it, but otherwise a very entertaining story about Han Xin and his battle with Xiang Yu.
Lol my favorite is the part with the stone cart, paper cart ,and the wood cart
Yes. and I love the potrayal of Han Xin there. He was talented in warfare, righteous and kind but well being betrayed by his own "friends".
That drama at least gave a warm feeling for the audience as it has happy ending, that the bond of three han heroes were strong till the end, however as for the real one the history said the reversal.
Han Xin's life as a hero was not easy and flowerish.
Most C dramas are way too exaggerated for my liking, i want something more historically accurate
He could have given the bully a nice beating instead of killing or being humiliated...
He was surrounded but he has a lethal weapon. Unsheathe that sword meaning bloodshed, and he does not have a good chance to win. For someone believes a higher purpose, Choosing the humiliation is probably the best diffusion.
So much death.
When I was little, I made fun of Han Xin as being "Gutless" during the incident where he have to crawl underneath a bully, but my parents told me what Han Xin did was actually much brave, because Han Xin himself know he is powerless at the moment and would swallow his pride and crawl and hoping one day he will take his revenge.
He is even stronger than that because instead of taking revenge, he actually rewarded the bully guy. Those who are strong are always kind.
@@highfalutinman Not because he was kind. He said he rewarded him because that experience gave him the determination to succeed.
Han Xin remember me strongly Wen Yang for Jin Dynasty both great military commander both betrayed by their own lord
Wen Yang was not an asshole
The creator of Chinese chess.
Subtitles please
is he the guy from Kingdom?
No Kingdom about Ying Zheng (i.e. Ei Sei) who establishes the Qin Dynasty. Liu Bang establishes the Han Dynasty that replaces the Qin.
That is messed up
If Liu Bang was an RPG character he would have spent all his exp points on luck n charisma rather than intelligence or strength and still won the game.
he had intelligence but not strength in military which is what biggest rival had but he used people better than others
@@Tony-kj7ui oh he had military thing but just not as great as Han Xin's or Xiang Wu's
This is false. Liu Bang still needed to have almost godly intelligence to become emperor. You pretty much can't find a single founding emperor, Chinese or any other nationality, who doesn't have at least a respectable degree of intelligence.
@borray s That is kind of silly. No one ever in life has ever had a perfect, winning record. Even emperors (or, in Liu Bang's case, would-be emperors) experience setbacks. Take the Roman Empire, for example. Its predecessor, the Republic, was ragdolled a TON by Hannibal and suffered some CRAZY defeats and number of deaths before finally turning it all around and becoming a top world empire. Would you say that it achieved all that primarily because of "divine fate"? That would be ignoring all the crazy logistics, strategy, political organization, etc., that Rome's armies and officials possessed. Ain't nothing divine or lucky about that if your W comes with those credentials. Same thing with Liu Bang -- he is pretty much the individual equivalent of the Roman Empire. He never screwed up so badly that his other strengths didn't allow him to win the day. Remember: he was no Xiang Yu in battle (although he was still an above-average military commander) _because he didn't need to be._ He had strategic thinking, charisma, people management skills that allowed him to get Han Xin to be his anti-Xiang Yu.
Again, was Liu Bang perfect and did he never have any weaknesses ever? No. Did his strengths prove sufficient and suitable to winning in the environment that he was in? Completely. No gods needed.
Liubang is one of the greatest emperor in Chinese History, but he is not a strategist.
What if Han Xin had lived, would he have been successful against the Xiongnu invasion 4 years later?
Maybe... But unlikely because of the many fundamental reasons why the xiongnu historically kept winning (better horses, nomadic advantage over urban).
Be clear that the Han did not get conquered by the xiongnu. It was just too troublesome to keep fighting. Had the Han have a reason to fight the Xiongnu to the end, the economic stronger Han would probably win but at a big cost.
@@jayshen84 The han later did conquer the Xiongnu
@@dabo5078 Not conquer...only defeated. The xiongnu being nomads have no cities or towns to be conquered.
The xiongnu were pure nomads meaning they relied on raiding the Han for almost everything not naturally available or abundant. With their inability to raid anymore, the xiongnu started to decline and were eventually chased out by the semi-nomadic groups who rose to power in the xiongnu vacuum. These new groups combined agriculture and their nomadic pastural ways to be more self sufficient and able to sustain through trading instead of raiding the Han.
Your karma rewards you for your deeds
Actually what is the meaning of "Han"? Is there a different meaning between Han in Han Dynasty and people sure name like Han Xin, Han Fei, etc?
The two “Han” are written differently and have different meanings.
When Chinese names are converted to the alphabet, a lot of similar sounding names are simplified into a common name.
The two Han are different character.
One is Han with a heavy tone, another is Han with a neutral tone.
Chinese is a tonal language. E.g. The sound Mao, can be interpret as
"Cat", "Spear", "Hat", "Flourish", "fur/feather".
The Han Dynasty is 汉, while Han Xin's Han is 韩
Oh i see.. thank you :)
What is Han Dynasty??? Where do they come from??? Han Dynasty originated from the Han State during the Warring State period of china. It started when the Zhou Dynasty divide the land which they get from the battle against Shang Dynasty, Zhou Dynasty give his relatives, subordinates a land and from them they started to expand their dynasty. Every Zhou Royals create their own states and that's why during the Warring stares period. There many Chinese states who comes from the Zhou Royals.
It's kind of sad that Han Xin didn't end up as emperor - he seemed more gracious than his superior at least.
Yeah, that's an interesting thought. He is a great general, but we don't really know what civil policies he would adopt as an emperor. He only reigned as the king of Chu for 1 year.
Doubt it, Han xin is genius in warfare strategy, not in political, he lack of political view bring the end of his own life
@@stevej1235 he was surrounded by advisors and talents people. He could rule pretty well.
It's pity he was killed by the emperor wife because she fear for his popularity, even after they united all of China.
Han xin was no angel. The fact was liu biang and all the people around him were all machiavellians who were only out for personal gain.
@@chairmanbowl4085 And as the video said he did everything he could to annoy Liu Bang: blackmailing him, didn't show up when summoned... He was used to Liu Bang catering to his whims during the war like making him king of Qi and forgot Liu Bang didn't need a great general anymore
Everybody speaks like they know strategy and politic. Yes! Han Xin contributed a lot to the Han hegemony. But Han Xin was an arrogant person who didn't even give a single damn to Liu Bang's brothers. Han Xin who held the largest force after the death of Xiang Yu decided it's not time to rebel due to Liu Bang popularity. However Liu Bang was already at the end of his life. Once he's dead, everyone knew Han Xin would declare himself as new emperor which would replace the Han dynasty that barely lasted a decade. Han Xin was too dangerous to be left alive and China would once again (or even forever) never become an Empire. It's very common for ruler to assassinate their own generals who deemed too dangerous. Zhou Yu was poisoned after he stepped too far and arranged the marriage of Sun Shanxiang to Liu Bei (it's not happy ending, as history recorded Sun Shanxiang ended up suicide after she returned to Wu with her son held hostage by Zhao Yun). The person who replaced Zhou as great commander title, Lu Meng was also assassinated when he disobeyed Sun Quan and executed Guan Yu to prolong the war and expanded his power.
It proves we don’t need Facebook to spread rumors.
Where would liu pang be without xiao he? The series king’s war claims that xiao he used to be liu pang’s old boss.
Han xin: robert Greene, where r you?!? (Favorite book 📚)
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Han Xin had won so many battles with so little weak and disadvantages position and army,given today this modern time if u ask all the generals in this world,who could he had won so many remarkable battles,the generals of this modern era also don’t know who he could do that
Again .. the universal question ... who is stronger, the nameless man without penis vs Han Xin? The answer is the nameless man.. That is why after century it born 10 powerful man without penis and created romance of the three kingdoms.. Three cheers to the nameless man. Who was the first powerful nameless man?
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Not gonna lie that sushi taco looked pretty good
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Han Xin and Sebuteur momgol general who invaded Europe. Which general is better.
li xin’s descendant btw
48 Powers of Law by Robert Greene. Law 1 - Never outshine the master.
In modern life, if you outshine your boss, you’ll get the sack.