How To Mount Any Size TV Bracket Into Drywall With Just A Screwdriver!

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  • Опубліковано 25 гру 2024

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  • @Hit3ch23
    @Hit3ch23 Рік тому +50

    I respect your channel 50 times more for not editing this video. It shows real life problems with real life solutions. Thank you

  • @sauros1
    @sauros1 Рік тому +40

    I managed a team that did upwards of 30+ TV installations per day in office and medical spaces, and I never allowed a swivel arm mount to be installed in drywall alone. The toggle bolt may hold 50+ lbs, but that doesn't mean the drywall will. We fixed a lot of other people's failed installations. At full extension, the weight of a heavy TV or person leaning on a swivel arm mount is focused on an area about 2in squared and will deflect drywall, and if it has any structural weak points, it will crack it. If you're near a seam, it will crack it. If you MUST use toggles, get a swivel mount that has a wide back plate with 4 fasteners and thus a greater area of contact, or better yet, get a tilt mount that holds the center of gravity closer to the wall. Remember, don't design your solution around the minimum amount of support needed, it needs to be able to handle double a "once-every-5-years load" to be truly safe, or some similar engineering philosophy.

  • @Inbal_Feuchtwanger
    @Inbal_Feuchtwanger Рік тому +159

    No matter how many people say it's fine, I dont think I could ever feel comfortable mounting something big like a large TV onto just drywall. I need there to be at least 1 stud to feel confident about it holding up.

    • @brianhall9019
      @brianhall9019 Рік тому +15

      I feel you, but I’ve used those specific ones on so many different heavy items. They work great. I’ve hung some heavy wall cabinets, tvs and mini split wall units. They are really worth it.

    • @jamesfynnhere6983
      @jamesfynnhere6983 Рік тому +23

      100%. It’s an adjustable bracket, there is literally no upside to not putting it in a stud. If you can’t afford a drill you can’t afford a mounted tv.

    • @richardhalliday6469
      @richardhalliday6469 Рік тому +3

      At the beginning of the video I noticed near the top of the wall you had magnetic drywall screw detector stuck to what I presume is the stud, I would have gone with that solution and screwed into timber. Plasterboard ( in the UK ) never lends it self to heavy load support with toggles ( my opinion only )

    • @TheFunnyCarpenter
      @TheFunnyCarpenter  Рік тому +12

      Agree one stud would be nice! Not always possible above certain types of fireplace framing.

    • @dwightshelby
      @dwightshelby Рік тому

      Thanks for the video, and I will be getting the 10 pack.
      It's a different game changer.

  • @yourmasterrenovator86
    @yourmasterrenovator86 Рік тому +11

    Having shown how much torque it can bear is a perfect demonstration for us to know how far we can go to be safe. Thanks for the demonstration 🙏
    Not every attempt has to go right, we learn by our failures.
    Thank you again 🙏

  • @freezerlunik
    @freezerlunik Рік тому +24

    these toggle anchors are about as much as one could get from attaching to a sheet of drywall. The reality is that the holding weight spec was exceeded by the extra torque due to the bracket acting as a lever. If it were a heavy painting just pulling straight down, yeah one anchor might hold 200+ pounds/100kg. It is just too much to ask from the sheet of drywall though.

  • @MarkDownMark
    @MarkDownMark Рік тому +14

    My FIL swore by these and much to my opposition, he used them for his 75” TV as he said using studs would weaken their integrity. They held up fine for the longest time…until a hurricane came through and caused damage to his roof which caused a leak, right above the TV. The drywall got wet and down came the TV, causing far more damage than if he would’ve found a stud or two. These are great, if you don’t plan on wetting your drywall. 😂

  • @ThingsAnStuff
    @ThingsAnStuff 5 місяців тому +10

    The load rating of the anchors is only for force applied pretty much at the wall surface. Because you were using an extendable bracket and hanging off the arm, that extra leverage could have effectively doubled or tripled the your weight, so the anchors actually held up pretty well. Extendable tv brackets are probably one of the only situations where you’d have something so heavy mounted so far out from a wall, but for any wanting an extendable tv mount, make sure your anchors are rated at several times the tv weight, an don’t hang off of them 😂

  • @MarkAlbert
    @MarkAlbert Рік тому +3

    Yes, I have been using these snap/toggle bolts for several years now to hang heavy objects. So far, no known failures and I keep a steady supply on hand.

  • @deadnthehead4557
    @deadnthehead4557 Рік тому +7

    Instructions are straightforward and easy to follow. I can't help but imagine there is some folks out here just stabbing screw drivers into the wall and hoping things line up. I just knew without a doubt there was going to be a segue into a drywall repair video at the end! 🤣 And it was the Vancouver Carpenter guy!

  • @michaelkushner7181
    @michaelkushner7181 3 місяці тому +2

    I used the same mounting hardware and it worked very well for me. One of the best mounting anchors.

  • @gnic76
    @gnic76 Рік тому +7

    Appreciate your dedication by messing your wall up to give your audience the skills needed.
    I used those a few years ago, worked great, just remember that you need a minimum distance behind the wall, sometimes insulation will interfere with the toggle.

  • @heystarfish100
    @heystarfish100 Рік тому +6

    I finally see you being funny! 🤣🤣🤣 Those toggles are awesome and I have been using and recommending them for this application for many years. Be safe out there!

  • @erniewarinner7692
    @erniewarinner7692 Рік тому +1

    I have been using those snap toggle bolts for many years. Best mounting solution I have found.

  • @ThePittEngineer
    @ThePittEngineer Рік тому +8

    I love those snap toggles! Been using them for years 0 issues!

  • @gordonshute8816
    @gordonshute8816 Рік тому +12

    Breaking the wall at the end was great! Shows that the drywall broke before the fastener. Really good object lesson

  • @Vuweatherman25
    @Vuweatherman25 Рік тому +3

    I love these snap toggle bolt anchors. They have served me very well. Id be weary of using them for a tv simply because of how expensive it is but ive had plenty of projects holding for years now where a stud just wasnt available. Guess it could happen for a tv too!

  • @8minecrafter8
    @8minecrafter8 Рік тому +9

    The 265 lbs rating may not apply if you have a big lever arm hanging the load 1.5 feet out from the wall, lol

  • @shanewalker3427
    @shanewalker3427 Рік тому +1

    Now that you've damaged the drywall you might as well throw some blocking back there while you fix it. I wouldn't trust them for a TV or cabinets but I'm going to give those toggles a try sometime. Looks much easier than the old school ones.

  • @peterevans8194
    @peterevans8194 Рік тому +1

    If you want to mount something heavy on plasterboard only, GeeFix are the strongest fixing I know of...The main down side is you need a slightly deeper cavity behind to deploy them.
    After those, I would then say Bullfix Extra Heavy Duty, (not the cheaper Universal version). Thirdly, would be the toggle bolts shown in the video.
    In truth, I would be reluctant to mount any large TV on an arm into plasterboard only, simply because of the extra leverage those arms excerpt onto the plasterboard itself...

  • @therealmfwic9503
    @therealmfwic9503 Рік тому +2

    I install and service dental equipment for a living. The largest manufacturer of dental equipment sends these along with their cabinets to mount them to the wall. They are pretty much my go to when studs aren’t an option. Although I always try to get a couple screws into a stud just to be safe.

    • @TheFunnyCarpenter
      @TheFunnyCarpenter  Рік тому +1

      I once supervised the Tenent improvement on a dental office. I couldn't believe how detailed and awesome their drawings and specs were.

    • @therealmfwic9503
      @therealmfwic9503 Рік тому

      @@TheFunnyCarpenter yea there’s a lot that goes into it. You have air, water, suction and power that have to go to multiple locations in each operators. Plus you have the oxygen and nitrous lines. The air, oxygen and nitrous are all considered medical gases so the lines have to be brazed. It’s crazy. It takes lots of trips to get all the stuff along with the blocking in the walls and ceiling for the light and X-rays correct

  • @jimnora1705
    @jimnora1705 Рік тому +1

    Used the "easy anchor" toggles on my tv bracket. They work great as well.

  • @armax00
    @armax00 Рік тому +2

    Beautiful, I don't think I have seen these here in Europe. I have been using instead plastic plugs similar to the metal ones you mentioned and those are said to hold 15 kg per screw but I never know hiw much the dry wall holds. One thing I was told was to use a wooden base hooked on the studs behind the drywall but I have never tried.

    • @IScreamer
      @IScreamer Рік тому

      Yeah, that’s a good solution. In my previous condo, where the studs are metal, I attached a sheet of plywood to the drywall with 6 toggle bolts, painted the plywood the same colour as the wall, then screwed the TV bracket to the plywood with appropriately sized screws. Everything held rock solid.

  • @tedpuckett2779
    @tedpuckett2779 Рік тому +1

    Sneaky way to get folk to watch your drywall repair vid. 😂
    Thanks for the share.

  • @johnbeswick6747
    @johnbeswick6747 Рік тому +1

    Great information. Every time I tune in the info is very useful.

  • @SydneyReader
    @SydneyReader Рік тому +1

    hands down my favorite joke from you ever!!!! combining two of my favorite childhood shows - mr. bean and macgyver. i'm dead.

    • @TheFunnyCarpenter
      @TheFunnyCarpenter  Рік тому

      I have really enjoyed a hundred smiles thinking about that tv bracket! Spray foam and clear tape is too much!

  • @SRM2025
    @SRM2025 Рік тому

    Thank you. Just purchased a TV and mount and you popped up in my algorithm. I am going to mount mine in the gyprock (plaster) as new large TV’s these days are so light. The Togglers are sold out in the hardware stores here in Australia & postage is exy from Amazon US so I’m doing it the old fashioned way yet yeah, people up in arms here must have older TV’s that are heavier I reckon. Take care, Mate. 👍

  • @JohnFontenot1
    @JohnFontenot1 11 місяців тому

    I just finished installing a heated towel bar using the snap toggles. Thank you for a great recommendation.

  • @bereasonable8018
    @bereasonable8018 Рік тому +4

    I can attest that I made a mess hanging a tv about 9 years ago. Never heard of snap toggle bolts back then. But for what it's worth, the tv is still mounted. I'm just afraid to move it. lol

  • @sociopathmercenary
    @sociopathmercenary Рік тому +3

    With the adjustable arm brackets, I've never run into a situation where mounting it to a stud would put the bracket in a location where it wasn't adjustable to where you wanted the TV.
    Do what you want but I would attach it to a stud.

    • @TheFunnyCarpenter
      @TheFunnyCarpenter  Рік тому +1

      If you have the tools, studs for sure. But sometimes like over a fireplace in some situations there may not be and studs to hit. Or a more likely scenario a basement with 2' centres and you can only hit 1 stud. These anchors would be awesome.

    • @sociopathmercenary
      @sociopathmercenary Рік тому +1

      @@TheFunnyCarpenter I understand your point and I'm sure these will hold most TVs.
      My thinking is that, if you don't have the ability to drive a screw into a stud, perhaps you should just buy a TV console. All the TV mounts I use are made to attach to a single stud. If I absolutely needed to attach the TV mount in an area where there were no studs, my second option would be to use a board to span between the studs and attach the mount to that.
      Just my thought process.

    • @Anytus2007
      @Anytus2007 Рік тому

      ​@@sociopathmercenary I had it happen once where I needed to get a TV to sit flush and centered in a niche but the framing alignment made it impossible (couldn't go sideways AND back enough simultaneously). This was also a large TV, over 70", so it had a 2 stud bracket.
      I ended up using a similar solution to what you said. Plywood gusset fastened to 4 studs and toggle bolt the bracket to that.

  • @debra2107
    @debra2107 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the REAL WORLD scenario! I'm going to give these toggle bolts a try (but not for my TV...)! 😁

  • @bobmartin6055
    @bobmartin6055 Рік тому +1

    Outstanding! Perfect advertisement for your other very helpful video!!

  • @randutch3860
    @randutch3860 Рік тому +5

    "UGGGHHH...Why do I do this to myself??......I'm never going to finish this house..." I've murmured this exact phrase several times while working on my house....

    • @TheFunnyCarpenter
      @TheFunnyCarpenter  Рік тому

      Lol, I did this as well on the baseboard removal video im working on. Wanted to show what happens when you don't cut the caulking properly, and boom a huge piece of drywall paper ripped right off.

  • @JohnBGood-kq3ul
    @JohnBGood-kq3ul 9 днів тому

    The weight rating for the anchors is for downward pressure. Hanging on an extendable mount now puts outward pressure on it also, and all bets are off.

  • @LarryB-inFL
    @LarryB-inFL Рік тому +1

    I was certain you were going to break the drywall...yet thought maybe "he knows something I don't"! The obvious disconnect is "265 lbs" meaning direct downward shear. That lever arm was never going to stand up to your weight!
    Yes, I LOVE those snap toggles...just tried them recently!

    • @bcmanucd
      @bcmanucd Рік тому +2

      Yeah, it looks like the point he was hanging from was roughly twice the distance between the two screws. So there was approximately twice his weight in outward force on that upper anchor. Even if the 265 lb rating is accurate, that's not how it was loaded for his test. If he'd hung from a point right against the wall, it might have held. But on the other hand, a 80 lb TV on the far end of the mount when it's fully extended might put 4-5 times its weight in outward force on the anchor.

  • @michaelcabrera7420
    @michaelcabrera7420 3 місяці тому

    You’re awesome dude thanks for this video, your humor and authenticity

  • @nixquev
    @nixquev Рік тому +2

    I love these but very often the screw is way too big for the hole on the thing I'm trying to attach. I wanted to use them on small shelves and such that would hold books but it's almost always too big of a screw.

  • @winstonian88
    @winstonian88 22 дні тому

    It's not the anchor that fails, it's the drywall. Other than shelves and TVs of course, which lever the bolt outward, almost nothing you mount on a wall pulls straight outward. It migrates downward creating a channel though the drywall. It may not break free but it will get loose. In that sense, the thicker the body of the bolt the better. That said, these do seem like the best anchors because they combine the toggle bolt with a thicker collar.

  • @danielleLaw007
    @danielleLaw007 3 місяці тому +1

    No the house isn't haunted, things are just falling off the drywall on their own 😂

  • @junior13231978
    @junior13231978 6 місяців тому +1

    You just gave me a reason to find the studs🤣

  • @WowRixter
    @WowRixter Рік тому +1

    Very interesting product. I'll have to check it out

  • @cowoncrack8337
    @cowoncrack8337 Рік тому +5

    smiled like a child when you linked to Vancouver carpenter

  • @imgadgetmanjim
    @imgadgetmanjim Рік тому +2

    Someone offered me a big tv yhat was older but led. The thing weighed over 95 pounds. I bought a 65 inch that weighed about 30. Was afraid to hang the heavy one. Nice system. I think if you gently pulled yourself up it would hold you.

  • @Hipster55
    @Hipster55 Рік тому +1

    Interesting... what's the life expectancy of these drywall clips in a coastal environment where corrosion from salt air/humidity is high?

  • @Superman_88.97
    @Superman_88.97 9 місяців тому +4

    I think the jumping is what did you in on this one

  • @jerseyneil1
    @jerseyneil1 Місяць тому

    In my opinion, find the stud in the wall. Then, you can hang heavy items without worrying. A stud finder costs about $25 at the hardware store, worth the investment.

  • @deborahvlockauthor1130
    @deborahvlockauthor1130 Рік тому

    Love your videos! How do you mount heavy objects on horsehair/plaster walls? I assume these will not work...

  • @phillyfathead
    @phillyfathead Рік тому +1

    Excellent demonstration, thank you!

  • @df-ln8sn
    @df-ln8sn 11 місяців тому +1

    Studs all the way of cousre your not going to use a screwdriver for a stud, but those toggles would be the best choice for a tv

  • @Lisa-on3ee
    @Lisa-on3ee Рік тому +1

    How the actual?? Glad we still have genius minds in the world:)

  • @manickronic
    @manickronic Рік тому +3

    Okay, then how do you remove the toggle bolts in future?

    • @conradcoolerfiend
      @conradcoolerfiend Рік тому +6

      i would just knock it thru into the wall with a screwdriver. yes there is a hole to patch but that is the case for any drywall anchor

    • @TheFunnyCarpenter
      @TheFunnyCarpenter  Рік тому +3

      Yes

  • @itssnooker
    @itssnooker Рік тому +1

    If anyone doesn't know how to find studs behind drywall & how to use a driller & drillbit then stay away from mounting anything, call a handy man to do that. TVs are expensive don't take a chance with inserting brackets into 1/4 inch or 1/2 inch drywall

  • @njwebwiz
    @njwebwiz Рік тому +1

    So the title really should be "How to NOT Mount Any Size TV Bracket Into Drywall With Just A Screwdriver".

  • @MyMy-tv7fd
    @MyMy-tv7fd Рік тому +2

    I really do like to see the occasional fail - I never trust just toggle bolts or fancy pants variants - just affix a glued and screwed panel, then toggle bolt into that I say

  • @ED-es2qv
    @ED-es2qv Рік тому

    Hot tip: try a wood screw first, in case there's a stud behind one of your holes, otherwise the anchor tears the crap out of the Sheetrock when it hits wood.

  • @zorot3876
    @zorot3876 Рік тому +1

    People do this with radiators too and its a recipe for disaster. It will stay up long enough for the contractor to clear off and not answer their phone.

  • @Tjommel
    @Tjommel Рік тому

    I used the same mount on my EU-concrete wall... even for that i have to use very long and thicc screws... but now... i think even a 100KG human can stand on it^^

  • @bossmanz28
    @bossmanz28 Рік тому

    I still wouldnt trust my 75" on just drywall. Idc if it says 265 lbs and i think my 75 is like 100 or 120. If anything the larger the tv the easier it is to hide the mounting bracket behind it. 2 tvs in my house that are large i extended them with perforated angle to make the legs for mounting long and spanned 3 studs. I needed to do this though because of where the studs were and the factory bracket on jus 2 studs put the tv offset and not where i wanted it or could even have it. Didnt even to drill holes in the tv mount bracket since the holes are long horizontal slots.

  • @peachfuzz89
    @peachfuzz89 Рік тому +1

    Considering a good TV can be over $1000, it seems silly to me to not mount to a stud. The weak point with the best drywall anchors is the drywall itself. Finding a stud isn't difficult, even without a stud finder, and a cheap drill is less than $50. 🤷‍♂️

  • @kenkobra
    @kenkobra Рік тому +1

    So you are telling me somebody really put foam and tape to help hold the mount on the wall? If so, they should never pick up another tool or try to fix anything.

  • @Pete.Ty1
    @Pete.Ty1 Рік тому

    👍👍👍.Thank you

  • @trig
    @trig Рік тому +1

    Thats 265lbs static not dynamic. On a stand that is intended to allow the tv to be re-positioned on a regular basis I would suggest these are not a suitable fixing for this application.

    • @TheFunnyCarpenter
      @TheFunnyCarpenter  Рік тому +1

      If you had a wider bracket with 4 of these. I would mount a 60" TV. Studs are the way to go but sometimes not always possible, like over a fireplace in some situations.

  • @PaulCloves
    @PaulCloves Рік тому

    Well now the walls damaged and needs cutting out and repairing u can throw them anchors away and put some ply in the cavity and close the wall back up the way it should b done properly to avoid the nagging dought in ur head that is that tv ever gonna stay on the wall that’s the way we do it

  • @vinceferraccioli4661
    @vinceferraccioli4661 Рік тому +2

    I could see this coming lol😅😅😅

  • @conradcoolerfiend
    @conradcoolerfiend Рік тому +3

    i would say this is not ideal, but sufficient, if no ones gonna really manhandle the tv. I would not do this with kids!

  • @Samlol23_drrich
    @Samlol23_drrich Рік тому

    Next video; how to change a cracked panel on an LED television.

  • @jasonyeung9310
    @jasonyeung9310 Рік тому

    Vancouver Carpenter collab? ;D

  • @fannymackk
    @fannymackk 5 місяців тому +1

    4:55 very confused, you say they are incredible yet they didn’t hold up after the test lol is this an endorsement or not? 😂

  • @jmedi5589
    @jmedi5589 11 місяців тому

    Only thing is, the packaging specifically says not to use to mount tv on drywall.

  • @lechiffre5078
    @lechiffre5078 8 місяців тому

    I’ve used these and think they are great, but no way would I trust them to hang an expensive, large TV. It may hold, but I’d never sleep again.

  • @luisponce1472
    @luisponce1472 4 дні тому

    Smart Tv's now days are like 40 pounds so this will work

  • @dsmasynergy
    @dsmasynergy 10 місяців тому +1

    Rated for 265 pounds, drywall breaks. Dude, ease up on the cheese burgers :)

  • @stokes111111
    @stokes111111 5 місяців тому

    bless you

  • @thestomach
    @thestomach Рік тому

    Oh no!!! Such disappointment (I appreciate that you tried!). Now you have to make a drywall repair video...

  • @user-zq6pj5jo8j
    @user-zq6pj5jo8j Рік тому

    I hate those as all toggle and anchors like that puncture the rear drywall paper making the drywall weak and rip a large hole just like he did even with a lot less weight. The 265Lbs is complete BS by the manufacture.

  • @SteelyTheVan
    @SteelyTheVan Рік тому

    Too funny!

  • @tedmcdonald3377
    @tedmcdonald3377 Рік тому

    😎⚒️😎⚒️😎

  • @j0.ZEF-Who
    @j0.ZEF-Who Рік тому

    Well your obviously well over 350lbs

  • @paulsmith9341
    @paulsmith9341 Рік тому +2

    Scratch that anchor off the list!

    • @conradcoolerfiend
      @conradcoolerfiend Рік тому +2

      nah, its the best drywall anchor. if this anchor doesnt work for a given application, none do.

    • @jamesfynnhere6983
      @jamesfynnhere6983 Рік тому

      Why use an anchor at all here? The mount is adjustable so not even position aesthetics justify not using a stud.

    • @conradcoolerfiend
      @conradcoolerfiend Рік тому +3

      @@jamesfynnhere6983 the video is pointed at people without tools. Maybe a college kid or something for a temporary install. If you have a drill and wrench etc you definitely should use a stud.

  • @FredPatzold
    @FredPatzold 8 місяців тому +1

    So basically everything you just did and said is wrong

  • @Gainedlaid
    @Gainedlaid 11 місяців тому

    😂😂😂

  • @danstheman33
    @danstheman33 11 місяців тому +1

    This is terrible and dangerous advice! You absolutely should NEVER mount an extendable TV with just Snaptoggles. Snaptoggles are a great product, I buy them in bulk and use them frequently, but drywall alone is not strong enough for that type of mount. For a lightweight, flush mount TV it's fine, but for an extendable / motion mount, you absolutely need to use studs.
    And you are totally misunderstanding the load ratings of Snaptoggles. Those are the 'ultimate load' aka the FAILURE load. That is the load at which it rips out of the wall. If you read the manufacturer's instructions /specs you would know this. The actual maximum safe working load is one fourth of the ultimate load. In 1/2" drywall in good condition, the max working load is 60 lbs tension, or 62 lbs shear.
    Please stop giving out dangerous and incorrect advice. You should delete or post a correction on this video (edit: see my update below). And start reading the damn instructions for products before you produce a video instruction people to use it incorrectly, and giving wildly incorrect information about how much weight it can safely support.
    PS- Where on earth did you find such a tiny TV mount, is that thing made for a dollhouse or something?
    PPS- I didn't watch the whole video before, but the more I watch, the worse it is- You didn't even use a level and a freakin pencil? How are you a carpenter?
    PPPS- The more I watch, the worse it gets. You installed the Snaptoggle sideways. For this and most applications, the toggle should be installed vertically, that provides the most strength for this type of load. Which again is something you would know if you read the instructions, or were familiar with any type of toggle bolt..
    PPPPS - I finally watched to the end.. 😂Well I'm glad at least people learned something, and I suppose kudos for leaving that embarrassing part in. I still think you should post a correction explaining why that didn't work, and explaining the actual load ratings. And the fact that cantilever loads greatly increase the load on walls, exponentially in some cases.

  • @thomasflynn8712
    @thomasflynn8712 Рік тому

    That was funny