Engineers removing completely functionable and practical buttons from their interiors to justify their overengineered infotainment systems has got to be the worst trend in motoring right now.
@@slimjim1125 for me, would rather not have to interrupt a conversation with passengers to make sure my voice command to the car is heard and interpreted accurately. As soon as I have to repeat myself, talking to my car, I am out. Not for me.
What people in the EV-industry don't get (at least in my eyes) is that we don't really need 1000+hp cars to make EVs more attractive... we need good range and a good charging infrastructure...
Higher-powered electric motors are more efficient, it's one of the main reasons you're still seeing good range with higher-powered motors. Add that to the fact that it's relatively simple to extract high power from electric motors, and that's why you're seeing these crazy power figures. It's the complete opposite of ICE, where extracting more power is comparatively harder and makes the engine less efficient.
You probably don't understand that car manufacturers have done their due diligence in market research to know that power figures are important in making EVs very interesting. Making normal saloon cars faster than ICE supercars is an interesting proposition. Also it does appear that it is easier to extract power from electric motors.
It’s a business strategy. First, create an expensive model with high margins to fund the next, cheaper model. Tesla’s first car was the Roadster, a $100,000 2-seat sports car, but their goal has always been to create low cost economy EVs for the masses. Model 3 is under US$40k now before incentives and they’ll likely introduce a less expensive model in the next few years. This never would have been possible without the original Roadster.
You’ve obviously don’t own a Tesla Model 3 Performance. I hated Tesla’s… then I drove one… and now I own a model 3 Performance. The power is addictive, it’s also how you get better range
MotorTrend drove a Dream Air with 933hp, 409 miles in one go from LA to San Francisco. When they set off it showed 503 miles range showing, drove 409 miles and still had 70 miles of range left. They drove as fast as the speed limits allowed but didn't do multiple acceleration runs in sprint mode.
15:35 - I love how Mat showed the soft close feature, seconds before, just to slam the door there anyway. Which proves: nobody wants softclose doors! We want nice sounding clicks or slams, when closing the doors, like a G wagon.
Soft close is for moments when you fail to close the door properly when going out of the car. Without that you need to make a annoying trip back to the door to close it properly. It does not happen often but often enough.
@@hrhKReh. How often does that actually happen? I know its not that uncommon but its not a big deal. My sisters vw polo doors close really easy without needing to slam or soft close. Practically useless feature imo
I think it s demo car that why they set for pin. It’s sa security feature. If the car once put in P then without pin wont able to drive like Tesla . I use pin for glovebox and drive as well.
@@simon_sky you say that but I bet not a single one will even touch it and I assume the front camera systems are attached to it meaning a whole adas calibration if you break the screen. Meaning even if they could you would still need to take it to a specialist garage 😂 also that's if lucid even offer the glass as a part, if it's anything like the electronics and CE industry you probably can't like modern phone screens so you have to go to the non existent lucid repair facilities.
For 200k they could have installed electric sunwisors. It is a layer on the glas, 95% transparent normally and gets 100% dark when powered on. Combined with touch sensors you could swipe them as far down as you need them.
@@josefstalin4532 Have you ever seen this in real life? It is like magic. There is nothing disturbing the view in normal situations and then a pitch black area you can summon if needed
~100K of that 200k is due to import tax, so no, they couldn't. Also, I know what you're referring to, and that is not a suitable replacement for a physical, non-transparent shield between you and the sun.
Things Mat like about this car, is that it has soft close doors in the front, after which Mat gets into the car, opens the front-door twice, and them SLAMS the door shut like any normal person would do. 😉
This guy was born to review cars. Good overview of pros and cons. Loads of trim options for the model. Doesn't float my boat personally but if I were a mile cruncher it would be a pause for my thoughts.
I get the feeling that this car isn’t really marketed for you….. i find it interesting, doesn’t mean want to buy one… They do plenty of affordable car reviews just for you….
Such a beautiful car. Probably driving the same path as Tesla in the early days appealing to the rich first and with more affordable models later. And it's probably going to be a great alternative.
The problem is Tesla had no competition when they did that. Lucid needs to be better than all other alternatives to justify the price tag. I don't know if this is the case after seeing this review. Currently, their sales numbers look not very promising.
At that price, most of the rich will just get the model x. Heck for that price I could get both the model s plaid and a model 3, ans both seem to have a better designed interior (I never thought I would say that in my life)
You won’t need a hot rod or luxury car this is both. The way the drivetrain is the size of a few shoeboxes is brilliant engineering. Great job guys I’m buying more shares
While the majority of EVs about town seem to be Teslas, I've spotted one Lucid, one Rivian and one Mustang Mach-E and zero Ford Lightnings. Second only to the Lucid in flash is the Mercedes EQ, yet these forlornly occupy the dealer lot save for the one I saw at the dentist
I've cracked two windscreens in the last 12 months (heat cycling the first and a rock for the replacement). Not sure if the insurers would have been satisfied with a £100 excess for a windscreen as expensive as that one looks though!
@@tomtho1 Thankfully all of the sensors and bits that matter are not on the windshield or are on parts that glue to it, so it really is just a giant piece of glass.
@@danielosdinia4258 Hot day, AC blowing, or the reverse - completely frozen over and turning on the heat. Also, say, being out in 0 degree weather in the winter and parking in your heated garage. Very very few cars since the 60s or so have this problem, thanks to better laminating techniques and tempered glass. Evidently they are pushing the limits of how large a piece of glass in a vehicle can be in this case.
About the sunroof. My dad used to drive Citroën C4 Picasso around 10 years back, and that also had a window sloping back quite a lot. (Not as much as this car though) and the sun visor there started from the roofline above the driver and was a bit like a shutter going down and then the flap could be folded down from that. In this car that would be from behind the driver, so maybe awkward to operate, and it would require a rail in the middle to have the blinds ride in, but it looks to me like this would be a better solution.
Just a small gripe: drag coefficient is dimensionless, so you don't need to say "cd" after providing the value. "cd" means coefficient of drag, so saying "cd" after the value is like saying "Today it's 20 temperature outside".
Great review Matt. Now let's round up all the performance versions of the EV sedans and have a good old fashionedv drag race. Model S Plaid, Model 3 P, Lucid Air Dream, Mercedes EQS, Audi E-tron or the Porche version, etc etc
seriously one of these things can murder a plaid and chirons theres a vid on here of one in a drag race there is a lucid performance model with triple motors
@lushbikes Yes it's the Lucid Saphire Model but it's not in production yet. Production is set to start mid year 2023. By the time it becomes available in the UK the Tesla Roadster 2.0 would've already been out or the plaid would've gotten unlocked. The Plaid still has room be faster it is currently on a "safe tune" if you will.
@Ian Davis yes sir and Lucid is having tons of production issues currently as well so it's all up in the air right now. If I was a betting man I'd put my money on Tesla upgrading the Model S before Lucid making the Saphire at scale profitable.
"This performance model costs over 193000 pound" "if you're thinking about changing your car, you'll probably need to sell...your current car (thought he's gonna say 'your kidney')" LOL
I have owned my Lucid air base model 419 miles with full charge which is amazing, best car I have ever owned, the attention I get on road from people for this car is unbelievable
So what happens to the center screen if you put something that's just a tad to big for the center cubby space. Will it just stop where it can't go further or will it just press on and break itself??
They will, for the fact of rarity, something new.. Lucid needs to bring something to compete with tesla x and model 3 Something more affordable This seems to be company’s flagship model
People like to pile on criticizing this car without ever having driven one of these cars. Of course there is always an orientation period with any new car, electric or not, and this car is no different but the engineering that went into designing this car is really impressive. I'm not talking about gadgets engineering but the functionality of the car. The performance is obvious but the roominess and storage capacity of the car for its size is really impressive. I look forward to Lucid putting everything they learned from this car going into a less expensive version like Tesla did
Tesla model 3 has been advertised on the secondhand market for a little as a new economy car. The part they did not hope for was having to find a charging station that actually worked
Matt having a style over reality moment there. 19" rims with a decent sidewall are perfect for the UK. 21" with rubber bands for tyres are not even worth considering unless you like new rims on a regular basis
Imagine the cost of having to replace that massive windshield (or wind screen)when it gets a crack in it while driving on our roads here in our Canadian winters
Hi Matt, I am from India and I really enjoy your all videos. As I am working in automotive industry from last 12 years and companies like VOLKSWAGEN, GENERAL MOTORS, KIA INDIA & now currently working with JLR INDIA
23:45 - Why do some American manufacturers use the ‘one-foot rollout’ method when publishing 0-60 times, instead of just doing it from a full standing start?
To trick unknowing people into thinking their cars are faster than they really are. There is no reason to ever measure 0-60 with rollout. It is just nonsencial because it is literally simply starting the clocks after the car is allready accelerating. It is just like doing a 100 meter dash but only starting the clocks once the athelets reach the 10 meter mark. Why would they do this? Marketing and tricking people. Tesla did it first to achieve their "sub 2 seconds" 0-60 time which they otherwhise would not be able to. Pretty much overselling your product to make investors happy. I guess Lucid started copying this stupid way of measuring to compete. Let's see how long it takes until someone starts doing 2ft or 3ft rollouts to "achieve" even better 0-60 numbers.
It looks a bit unfinished in places, the steering wheel creaking would drive me mad. It also looks a little tricky to keep in a straight line under full acceleration, like the systems arnt yet quite as resolved as the teslas. 1111 bhp is hilarious though, just a crazy output.
As a former employee I can tell you. A lot of the interior actually feels really cheap anyone that says otherwise is lying to themselves to justify the price. Example: the center console sliding cover is a thin piece of cheap wood. Those volume and ac controls are very cheap and get loose very quickly, 1 crappy wireless charger that you have to shove your phone into and won't charge the iPhone max unless it's flipped upside down. Glove box is also crap quality. The glass does not protect you enough from the sun radiation. I could go on and on lol
@@jdveloz7015 Interesting. What are (in your opinion) the biggest + and - of a lucid air? Personally I think they do have some nice things like the big battery, good performance, good efficiency and a nice design. But so does the Model S. I guess the Lucid has a nicer ride and is quieter and also has some nice features like 360 degree view. The Tesla has nicer tech overall (FSDbeta or good Infotainment), air suspension and a charging network. Does Lucid have mandatory service intervals?
We can't do anything about it since companies already know alot about the human mind. And they can trick us into wanting it without showing that it was intended that way, that's how Tesla fans grew. They found a hook, they cling into it, and now it's a part of them. ( ye, sorry for the long explanation, couldn't help my self )
If Tesla opens ALL it's supercharger stations and this was 50-60k all in, then I would buy it for sure. 350 miles/563 km is enough to overlook most of the issues with this car. This would be my roadtrip vehicle.
@@gordonnorris4202 Ferrari and Lambo were collectable once upon a day but since early 2000s and with the rise in the number of millionaires and billionaires and also production of various models, I doubt if we can still assume them collectables.
Great review Matt as usual, thank you. The Lucid looks great from the outside but the inside still needs tweeking to be perfect considering the asking price. It just seems to be Americans trying to compete with Germany. They have a long way to go and prices to drop.
To be honest, what the Amies are doing is no less than robbery in broad day light. Just take Tesla, interior is a tablet and huge amount of cheap plastic!. Exterior- wise it’s re-invention of the wheel but still there are lots of naive people who pay twice of a Merc or Bm price for Tesla coz they think Elon Mask is genius!!
I wish you'd check your facts a bit first, as well as Matt, because more than half of the price you all pay is due to import taxes. The Lucid starts at ~$80-90k in the US, so it's a bit ridiculous to blame the company for that $200k price tag when they can't do anything about _your_ country's laws.
I’d like to correct a few things in the video. Dream Range edition total range is 517 miles. Dream performance is around 469 miles. It’s not 550 miles. Although that doesn’t explain why you saw 3.0 mpkwh figure but it’s not as bad as you thought it is. With the sprint mode or other driving factors influence the efficiency
i been a Limousine and taxi driver for 30 years + A normal person cant handle a car this strong it is insane what they sell nowdays in my youth a car with 130 hp was consider a fast car ,and for none racing drivers, it is plenty with a 0-100 time around 10 sec . these type ev cars will end up killing far more, because of this crazy accelerations
@@filbao8113 no they wont it reguires skills of a race driver this idiotic young generation is runned by computres and have 0 knowledge about how to handle a car in the winter or wet or when the shit hts the fan it is not a video game
Agree completely with everything you said about this car. I recently drove one in Switzerland at their display at the Concourse D' Elegance near Geneva, and thought it was a great car too with better build quality than my sister's Tesla. Just had a few small issues that you already mentioned like floor height etc. Also, coming from Australia and being used to driving Right hand drive vehicles on the other side of the road, the width of the car was something that was very obvious to me when making sure not to clip any gutters!
I really wanted one of these, went to trade my current car in. Realised id only get £300 in px and id need to find the remaining £155,000 🤣 Better sell the house then, but couldn't find housewow
The problem for buyers is wondering whether Lucid will still be around as a company three years from now. Will you have support for the very expensive car you just bought?
I really like the Lucid Air, but they're literally asking about twice what it's worth and I think that's gonna end up killing the brand before it gets anywhere. You're right, it's not luxurious enough to justify the money, and at that price point it shouldn't have any bugs whatsoever (like deciding you need a PIN in the middle of driving, or failing to detect the key fob that's right there in the car). It's infotainment system is also really laggy and glitchy, but I suppose that could be fixed with OTA updates. Also, to be fair, the Lucid Air Dream Edition you tested was never rated for 500+ range. Only the Lucid Grand Touring is rated for that, and only with the 19" wheels. And as with ICE cars, when you run the AC and/or drive like a lunatic, your range will decrease. Hagerty did a fantastic drag strip comparison of the Lucid Sapphire against a Model S Plaid, Bugatti Veyron, and a Ducati. If you haven't seen it, you should definitely check it out. That car is RIDICULOUSLY fast. Although, having said that, I think your "F*CK" reaction to the Lucid's acceleration was perfect. Tell us everything we need to know right there. LOL.
The lower range would have been because you were in the fastest driving mode , you would have to be in the lowest mode and the highest regen to achieve the best range .
If we're going to be drowning in stratospherically priced cars, at least they should be as spectacular as the Lucid. Looks like something very special.
@@BarkerT Historically, in the US acceleration times are measured with one foot rollout. In this procedure, two light beams are used for measurement. At the starting point, the front tire of the stationary car triggers the first one. By the time, the tire crosses the second one 12 inches away, it triggers the start of the time. Reason, why I personally find it annoying, is, because it delivers smaller numbers which get often mixed up when people think about 0-60mph or 0-100kmh times. To add to that, some car manufacturers use this for aggressive, but superficial and misleading marketing. I am thankful, that journalists try to make measurements under clearly defined conditions. Except of course the British weather. That, no one can control.
@@BarkerT According to an article of car and driver, the measurement with one foot rollout can be seen as something like 3-60 mph times, roundabout, that can differ.
Current car Dynos aren't built to measure instant torque. They expect a build up since that is the power curve of gas cars. One moment of highest torque at like 7k rpm.
Is it double glazing, meaning an air-gap between two sheets of glass or is it a laminated windows, meaning no air-gap just two sheets of glass bonded together. I believe it's laminated.
It is like the first Model S. I hope for Lucid to build on that car and I can’t wait to see their first Lucid Model Y. I know the next one is the Gravity which is more of a Model X. They follow the same S.3.X.Y pattern so far
@@lukabosnjak3829 maybe on the autobahn, yeah. But still. It doesn’t have instant torque like an EV, and it also has to change through the gears. And it’s still faster from 0-60. Probably more fun to drive as well 😎
Hi Mat, Big fan your channel. You should do a deacceleration test from some speed like 50 miles per hour to 0 with regen and then measure the distance or time so we viewer can compare it to other electric cars. :)
I like this, but even ignoring the price it wouldn't dare buying one in Denmark. What if it breaks? Will Lucid be around in 3 years to provide warranty? But so so pretty for sure 😊
3 miles/ kWh is pretty good for a >1000 hp vehicle. Personally not a fan of the looks, and would be considering a model with far fewer hp (400 is all that you need, surely?) 😊
Decide between paying the equivalent of a mortgage for a car or an actual brick and mortar. I think it's a no-brainer. These EV manufacturers are nuts on their price.
You thought you could get away with it Matt? flipping everyone off at 12:29 xD and 14:49 " you just have to pull it a bit harder, ooh i like a manual release" lol
yea they said that when 300 HP cars came, we never need more, then 500, then 600. now 1000, tomorrow 20000, which is actually doable in an ev. and it will happen 100%
🤔 at the same amount of money I prefer BMW 7series, is more luxury, more comfortable and more options in front and back seats. I have already the 760 Li V12 2008 and 750 Li 2015 and I look to buy the 2023 version. Nice review and thank you, good job😊
Engineers removing completely functionable and practical buttons from their interiors to justify their overengineered infotainment systems has got to be the worst trend in motoring right now.
Buttons may cost a bit more, but I have and will make purchase decisions based on vehicle having basic physical buttons.
agree at least keep the air condition button men
You don't need buttons when you can use voice commands instead.
Well it's a race. We consumers decide. If we don't care that much - there will be no buttons anymore.
@@slimjim1125 for me, would rather not have to interrupt a conversation with passengers to make sure my voice command to the car is heard and interpreted accurately. As soon as I have to repeat myself, talking to my car, I am out. Not for me.
19:35 that was scary, car stops in the middle of traffic with the keyfob inside the car and it's not recognizing it
You could just input your pin whenever it does that, also it didn't just stop, it was after he stopped and put it in park it did that.
@@abubakarsadeeq3572 I put my car in park all the time in traffic so i dont have to have my foot on the brake all the time.
🤣🤣🤣
@@abubakarsadeeq3572 and on every traffic light we stop and put the car in park!
so bad there
What people in the EV-industry don't get (at least in my eyes) is that we don't really need 1000+hp cars to make EVs more attractive... we need good range and a good charging infrastructure...
Higher-powered electric motors are more efficient, it's one of the main reasons you're still seeing good range with higher-powered motors.
Add that to the fact that it's relatively simple to extract high power from electric motors, and that's why you're seeing these crazy power figures.
It's the complete opposite of ICE, where extracting more power is comparatively harder and makes the engine less efficient.
Most EV volume is
You probably don't understand that car manufacturers have done their due diligence in market research to know that power figures are important in making EVs very interesting. Making normal saloon cars faster than ICE supercars is an interesting proposition. Also it does appear that it is easier to extract power from electric motors.
It’s a business strategy. First, create an expensive model with high margins to fund the next, cheaper model. Tesla’s first car was the Roadster, a $100,000 2-seat sports car, but their goal has always been to create low cost economy EVs for the masses. Model 3 is under US$40k now before incentives and they’ll likely introduce a less expensive model in the next few years. This never would have been possible without the original Roadster.
You’ve obviously don’t own a Tesla Model 3 Performance. I hated Tesla’s… then I drove one… and now I own a model 3 Performance. The power is addictive, it’s also how you get better range
MotorTrend drove a Dream Air with 933hp, 409 miles in one go from LA to San Francisco. When they set off it showed 503 miles range showing, drove 409 miles and still had 70 miles of range left. They drove as fast as the speed limits allowed but didn't do multiple acceleration runs in sprint mode.
thats actually good for an electric car isnt it
15:35 - I love how Mat showed the soft close feature, seconds before, just to slam the door there anyway. Which proves: nobody wants softclose doors! We want nice sounding clicks or slams, when closing the doors, like a G wagon.
Soft close is for moments when you fail to close the door properly when going out of the car. Without that you need to make a annoying trip back to the door to close it properly. It does not happen often but often enough.
If only you had soft close on a car you might have some clue about what you're talking about. Watching youtube videos does not qualify unfortunately,.
@@hrhKR no it's not. Stop living your life through YT and get some real world experience FML
@@volatileacid2281 Wtf you on about?
@@hrhKReh. How often does that actually happen? I know its not that uncommon but its not a big deal. My sisters vw polo doors close really easy without needing to slam or soft close. Practically useless feature imo
Can you imagine causing a traffic jam simply because you forgot the pin to your car? 😂
@@samm4192 No! When have you been sat in traffic, switched driving modes and look down to your keys missing?
I think it s demo car that why they set for pin. It’s sa security feature. If the car once put in P then without pin wont able to drive like Tesla . I use pin for glovebox and drive as well.
imagine cracking the front windshield
Carglass dream car 😂
@@simon_sky you say that but I bet not a single one will even touch it and I assume the front camera systems are attached to it meaning a whole adas calibration if you break the screen. Meaning even if they could you would still need to take it to a specialist garage 😂 also that's if lucid even offer the glass as a part, if it's anything like the electronics and CE industry you probably can't like modern phone screens so you have to go to the non existent lucid repair facilities.
Time to save up
That would be 10000 sir
£1000000000000
For the performance Lucid you'd have to sell your house, not your current car.
And your kidneys as well
I thought let me see if anyone else thinks the same before I write a similar comment 😂👍
@@sourwords1808 just made more sense after I heard him say it 😆
@@adimazga @sour words
I was thinking the same
@@sarikajain1606 LOOOOOOOOOL
For 200k they could have installed electric sunwisors. It is a layer on the glas, 95% transparent normally and gets 100% dark when powered on. Combined with touch sensors you could swipe them as far down as you need them.
They’re probably not legal. Physical sun visors are a legal requirement.
Or not... Because that just sounds super annoying...
@@josefstalin4532 Have you ever seen this in real life? It is like magic. There is nothing disturbing the view in normal situations and then a pitch black area you can summon if needed
~100K of that 200k is due to import tax, so no, they couldn't. Also, I know what you're referring to, and that is not a suitable replacement for a physical, non-transparent shield between you and the sun.
for 200k this looks like pretty bad quality car
Mat: soft closing door, you dont have to slam your doors
Mat 0.1sec later: 15:35
Always think the Lucid Air looks as if it could have been a Renault concept car from about 2000
I agree. The first car I thought of when I saw the rear three quarter view was the old Renault 25.
Indeed
It is more likely to be a Renault-Saab hybrid.
Peoguet
I remember when I saw the first Laguna with their keyless fobs. Beautiful car ahead of its time plagued with issues
Things Mat like about this car, is that it has soft close doors in the front, after which Mat gets into the car, opens the front-door twice, and them SLAMS the door shut like any normal person would do. 😉
Hahaha, noticed that 😂
yes and nothing on the SQUEAK when he opened the boot lid
Wonderful car 👍🏼🇺🇸
PRECISELY!!!
PRICELESS!!!😂😂😂😂
Clearly English is your third language
I have a Lucid Air Pure on order (coming soon).
It’s $73,000 and, at that level, makes a lot more sense!
I'm completely addicted to my Air Touring. I never want another car. I'm done 😄
@@xyrd3441 I got one 4 weeks ago. I wholeheartedly agree. This and my 981 Boxster GTS with the 6sp MT is my perfect garage.
😊same heree prefect garage @@johnlee5307
Zobacz jak pięknie się spalił taki w Warszawie tydzień temu😂😂😂
This guy was born to review cars. Good overview of pros and cons. Loads of trim options for the model. Doesn't float my boat personally but if I were a mile cruncher it would be a pause for my thoughts.
Carwow needs to get into realty. It would be so convenient to be able to sell my car AND my house, just so I can afford the new Lucid Air 🙂
@@RandyRodgirth yep. But TH and Doug Demuro arent far behind tho.
I read that as “Carwow needs to get into reality” 😂
Well they're appealing to the Clickbait market mostly compared to 5 years ago, don't blame them - that's where the views and money are at.
I get the feeling that this car isn’t really marketed for you….. i find it interesting, doesn’t mean want to buy one…
They do plenty of affordable car reviews just for you….
Seriously lol, I was expecting him to mention selling your house too
Saw a few of these on the road in the US whilst driving there. They look amazing and have a solid presence on the road.
Yep. Some cars also cruising along in San Antonio.
They have a store in my local mall for some reason. Then again, it's only $90k here
It's how Mat slams the door right after saying you don't have to slam the door
Such a beautiful car. Probably driving the same path as Tesla in the early days appealing to the rich first and with more affordable models later. And it's probably going to be a great alternative.
The problem is Tesla had no competition when they did that. Lucid needs to be better than all other alternatives to justify the price tag. I don't know if this is the case after seeing this review. Currently, their sales numbers look not very promising.
whut - at that price ... no way.
At that price, most of the rich will just get the model x. Heck for that price I could get both the model s plaid and a model 3, ans both seem to have a better designed interior (I never thought I would say that in my life)
😂
You won’t need a hot rod or luxury car this is both. The way the drivetrain is the size of a few shoeboxes is brilliant engineering. Great job guys I’m buying more shares
This guy always find a way to entertain us with puns and reviews.
Tesla Lucid Air accelerates like Lancia Stratos. So fast. 👍
Woàq
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While the majority of EVs about town seem to be Teslas, I've spotted one Lucid, one Rivian and one Mustang Mach-E and zero Ford Lightnings. Second only to the Lucid in flash is the Mercedes EQ, yet these forlornly occupy the dealer lot save for the one I saw at the dentist
he seemed to enjoy the idea of 'manual release'
I've cracked two windscreens in the last 12 months (heat cycling the first and a rock for the replacement). Not sure if the insurers would have been satisfied with a £100 excess for a windscreen as expensive as that one looks though!
Yes.
Apparently so based off other peoples experience. Around $700 USD to get it replaced so insurance should be ok with that.
@@tomtho1 Thankfully all of the sensors and bits that matter are not on the windshield or are on parts that glue to it, so it really is just a giant piece of glass.
what's heat cycling?
@@danielosdinia4258 Hot day, AC blowing, or the reverse - completely frozen over and turning on the heat. Also, say, being out in 0 degree weather in the winter and parking in your heated garage. Very very few cars since the 60s or so have this problem, thanks to better laminating techniques and tempered glass. Evidently they are pushing the limits of how large a piece of glass in a vehicle can be in this case.
About the sunroof. My dad used to drive Citroën C4 Picasso around 10 years back, and that also had a window sloping back quite a lot. (Not as much as this car though) and the sun visor there started from the roofline above the driver and was a bit like a shutter going down and then the flap could be folded down from that. In this car that would be from behind the driver, so maybe awkward to operate, and it would require a rail in the middle to have the blinds ride in, but it looks to me like this would be a better solution.
Just a small gripe: drag coefficient is dimensionless, so you don't need to say "cd" after providing the value. "cd" means coefficient of drag, so saying "cd" after the value is like saying "Today it's 20 temperature outside".
That retractable screen is PERFECT for classic cars! Only out when in actual use. Not ruining the classic interior style.
Great review Matt. Now let's round up all the performance versions of the EV sedans and have a good old fashionedv drag race. Model S Plaid, Model 3 P, Lucid Air Dream, Mercedes EQS, Audi E-tron or the Porche version, etc etc
Add also Ferrari 599 GTB and 493bhp Toyota Celica GT-FOUR ST205 WRC.
seriously one of these things can murder a plaid and chirons theres a vid on here of one in a drag race there is a lucid performance model with triple motors
@lushbikes Yes it's the Lucid Saphire Model but it's not in production yet. Production is set to start mid year 2023. By the time it becomes available in the UK the Tesla Roadster 2.0 would've already been out or the plaid would've gotten unlocked. The Plaid still has room be faster it is currently on a "safe tune" if you will.
@@jonathanjurena Roadster 2.0 is no where to be seen. Could be years yet.
@Ian Davis yes sir and Lucid is having tons of production issues currently as well so it's all up in the air right now. If I was a betting man I'd put my money on Tesla upgrading the Model S before Lucid making the Saphire at scale profitable.
If I was spending that kind of money, I'd go for a Bentley Flying Spur.
Congrats man! So you've got such a money but you've got some reservations to spend it on Lucid.
Absolutely, though Bentley is more expensive still I think.
2006 model😅
"This performance model costs over 193000 pound"
"if you're thinking about changing your car, you'll probably need to sell...your current car (thought he's gonna say 'your kidney')" LOL
I have owned my Lucid air base model 419 miles with full charge which is amazing, best car I have ever owned, the attention I get on road from people for this car is unbelievable
When Mat accelerate 20:45 from 40-70, the reaction of his face was epic
Mat talking about soft closing doors then slams it 2 times 😂
Gold pure gold 😁
So what happens to the center screen if you put something that's just a tad to big for the center cubby space. Will it just stop where it can't go further or will it just press on and break itself??
The center screen looks fit for even Toyota Alphard man.
Won’t break itself. I own one.
Just can’t imagine anyone with that much money to spend on a car, choosing this one
of course they do, they have like 3 porsche, a bugatti, a mclaren, a plaid and this one as well
They will, for the fact of rarity, something new..
Lucid needs to bring something to compete with tesla x and model 3
Something more affordable
This seems to be company’s flagship model
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl 😂 you don’t need to own a $2 million Bugatti to purchase $150,000 car
You're right. I'd choose the Sapphire
@Brian Attyberry or you can get a car just a quick and save 150k
People like to pile on criticizing this car without ever having driven one of these cars. Of course there is always an orientation period with any new car, electric or not, and this car is no different but the engineering that went into designing this car is really impressive. I'm not talking about gadgets engineering but the functionality of the car. The performance is obvious but the roominess and storage capacity of the car for its size is really impressive.
I look forward to Lucid putting everything they learned from this car going into a less expensive version like Tesla did
I agree with you Mat. The car here in USA is quickly on a secondhand market therefore some people do not find it as what they hoped for.
Are you sure they sell it because they don't like it? What's the asking price?.. I bet it is higher than what they paid for it.
@@_pehash it's not a vintage rare car... why would they be selling it for more than they paid?
Tesla model 3 has been advertised on the secondhand market for a little as a new economy car. The part they did not hope for was having to find a charging station that actually worked
Nice car but mindblowing price😮
Sadly... Would currently be the only electric car I would consider over a combustion engine car.
@@M3dicayne Lucid Air may cost $1.198.000.
@@purwantiallan5089 One digit too much. Also, I live in Germany. So, I don't really care about dollars :D
@@M3dicayneagreed
I love the apparent quality, the design is nice as well. Great review as always.
no, thats not quality like it should be, compare a bmw 7 eqs etc.
but its their first car, so they have that bonus.
@Jeff Lee Lucid Air imo accelerated as fast as even the Koenigsegg Agera R.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl or even against BMW 120d.
You can get a Bentley continental gt for that price
@jefflee1189 liar
Nice to see the Lucid Air on test.... but are hardly selling any. I would be very concerned that they might not survive.
It’s backed by the Saudi government.
23:58 even going up a hill, Plaid is very impressive
Matt having a style over reality moment there. 19" rims with a decent sidewall are perfect for the UK. 21" with rubber bands for tyres are not even worth considering unless you like new rims on a regular basis
So someone just drove that Dutch car (numberplate) to the UK for you to review? That's awesome!
Yes. I think Tom Coronel.
I think that's quite common for press cars anyway. All the press VW ID Buzz vehicles were German plated
@@Abi-bi6cb fair point!
@Abi-bi6cb Because the EU is really greater Germany.
Imagine the cost of having to replace that massive windshield (or wind screen)when it gets a crack in it while driving on our roads here in our Canadian winters
Not my sort of car,I like the car to do what I want, not what it wants to do..Excellent review Mat...Andre..
I died a little when Matt destroyed those crisp white floor matts with mud
Yep. LOL. 😂
White floormats is quite stupid anyway. Almost impossible to keep clean.
He can tread anywhere those scarpa walking boots are sick
@@bensmithkent22 They have nothing on Altberg.
Mudd Watson
15:18 you don't need to slam the doors -- Twenty seconds later: slams door over and over again 🤭
Hi Matt, I am from India and I really enjoy your all videos. As I am working in automotive industry from last 12 years and companies like VOLKSWAGEN, GENERAL MOTORS, KIA INDIA & now currently working with JLR INDIA
23:45 - Why do some American manufacturers use the ‘one-foot rollout’ method when publishing 0-60 times, instead of just doing it from a full standing start?
It's how timing lights work. It's always been there, but is now noted.
To trick unknowing people into thinking their cars are faster than they really are. There is no reason to ever measure 0-60 with rollout. It is just nonsencial because it is literally simply starting the clocks after the car is allready accelerating. It is just like doing a 100 meter dash but only starting the clocks once the athelets reach the 10 meter mark.
Why would they do this? Marketing and tricking people. Tesla did it first to achieve their "sub 2 seconds" 0-60 time which they otherwhise would not be able to. Pretty much overselling your product to make investors happy. I guess Lucid started copying this stupid way of measuring to compete.
Let's see how long it takes until someone starts doing 2ft or 3ft rollouts to "achieve" even better 0-60 numbers.
@@ralfrudi3963 Ford did it first many many years ago......
@@ralfrudi3963 this is incorrect, it is just the draf culture of the US, its standard there.
That's what it takes to trip the timing light.
It looks a bit unfinished in places, the steering wheel creaking would drive me mad.
It also looks a little tricky to keep in a straight line under full acceleration, like the systems arnt yet quite as resolved as the teslas.
1111 bhp is hilarious though, just a crazy output.
As a former employee I can tell you. A lot of the interior actually feels really cheap anyone that says otherwise is lying to themselves to justify the price. Example: the center console sliding cover is a thin piece of cheap wood. Those volume and ac controls are very cheap and get loose very quickly, 1 crappy wireless charger that you have to shove your phone into and won't charge the iPhone max unless it's flipped upside down. Glove box is also crap quality. The glass does not protect you enough from the sun radiation. I could go on and on lol
@@jdveloz7015 Interesting. What are (in your opinion) the biggest + and - of a lucid air?
Personally I think they do have some nice things like the big battery, good performance, good efficiency and a nice design. But so does the Model S.
I guess the Lucid has a nicer ride and is quieter and also has some nice features like 360 degree view. The Tesla has nicer tech overall (FSDbeta or good Infotainment), air suspension and a charging network.
Does Lucid have mandatory service intervals?
he turned everything off. sprint is track mode.
Am I the only one who thinks that Mat seems unusually calm and sluggish in this particular episode?
He definitely missed a pun when saying he like a knob for the steering wheel 🤔 perhaps he's toning it down a bit 🤷🏾 that it he's getting older 😅
@@jamlarna He's just had a kid, that tends to drain the life out of you😂
@Blazz13 absolutely, I had a kid 4 years ago, I used to look like Matt, now I look like Jeremy Clarkson😂
It's the drugs...
@@Luke-PlanesTrainsDogsnCars ok you got me lol... jk. Btw I literally have the same dog as you 😂 I thought it was mine for a sec.
"It went so quickly, so quickly" is the word definition of rapid acceleration.
11:00 can't believe that Matt didn't say anything about the motorized froot. Probably the best feature on this electric car.
Future is definitely quieter than breeze..🙇🏻♂️
Until the future starts moving and all you hear is roaring tyre resistance.
We can't do anything about it since companies already know alot about the human mind.
And they can trick us into wanting it without showing that it was intended that way, that's how Tesla fans grew.
They found a hook, they cling into it, and now it's a part of them. ( ye, sorry for the long explanation, couldn't help my self )
Silence is bliss.
@@snakeeyes9246 Then im built different!! I would choose the roar and grunt anyday!!
I would definitely buy this if it would have cost around 50-60k.
I easily have it if they paid me 100k
If Tesla opens ALL it's supercharger stations and this was 50-60k all in, then I would buy it for sure. 350 miles/563 km is enough to overlook most of the issues with this car. This would be my roadtrip vehicle.
If Ferrari was at the price of a Vauxhall, I definitely would buy it!
@@danielosdinia4258 Ferrari's are exclusive special and collectable cars, Lucid is just like an expensive smartphone.
@@gordonnorris4202 Ferrari and Lambo were collectable once upon a day but since early 2000s and with the rise in the number of millionaires and billionaires and also production of various models, I doubt if we can still assume them collectables.
Great review Matt as usual, thank you. The Lucid looks great from the outside but the inside still needs tweeking to be perfect considering the asking price.
It just seems to be Americans trying to compete with Germany. They have a long way to go and prices to drop.
To be honest, what the Amies are doing is no less than robbery in broad day light. Just take Tesla, interior is a tablet and huge amount of cheap plastic!. Exterior- wise it’s re-invention of the wheel but still there are lots of naive people who pay twice of a Merc or Bm price for Tesla coz they think Elon Mask is genius!!
I wish you'd check your facts a bit first, as well as Matt, because more than half of the price you all pay is due to import taxes. The Lucid starts at ~$80-90k in the US, so it's a bit ridiculous to blame the company for that $200k price tag when they can't do anything about _your_ country's laws.
I’d like to correct a few things in the video. Dream Range edition total range is 517 miles. Dream performance is around 469 miles. It’s not 550 miles. Although that doesn’t explain why you saw 3.0 mpkwh figure but it’s not as bad as you thought it is. With the sprint mode or other driving factors influence the efficiency
Don't butch this one Watson, it's a really nice car this one. Not much to say, the car speaks for itself. It's simply fantastic !!!
i would love to see the same type of reviews but with older cars
i been a Limousine and taxi driver for 30 years +
A normal person cant handle a car this strong it is insane what they sell nowdays
in my youth a car with 130 hp was consider a fast car ,and for none racing drivers, it is plenty with a 0-100 time around 10 sec .
these type ev cars will end up killing far more, because of this crazy accelerations
Pple will get used
@@filbao8113 no they wont it reguires skills of a race driver this idiotic young generation is runned by computres and have 0 knowledge about how to handle a car in the winter or wet or when the shit hts the fan it is not a video game
That’s a sleeper hypercar killer,that looks like my grandpa would drive.
Yep. Seems like SF90 and Huayra 2011 got a new challenger then.
The technology, design, and performance of this car are simply amazing. We can't wait to see what the future holds for electric cars.
Kind shit for the price no?
Agree completely with everything you said about this car. I recently drove one in Switzerland at their display at the Concourse D' Elegance near Geneva, and thought it was a great car too with better build quality than my sister's Tesla. Just had a few small issues that you already mentioned like floor height etc. Also, coming from Australia and being used to driving Right hand drive vehicles on the other side of the road, the width of the car was something that was very obvious to me when making sure not to clip any gutters!
I really wanted one of these, went to trade my current car in. Realised id only get £300 in px and id need to find the remaining £155,000 🤣
Better sell the house then, but couldn't find housewow
Housewow 😂😂
1111hp and 1390Nm of torque from electric power is insane!
Still slower than the M3 or M5 competition.
@@hassanger8128 errrr…no it isn’t. It’s much faster than those…even the published times for those are far slower.
The problem for buyers is wondering whether Lucid will still be around as a company three years from now. Will you have support for the very expensive car you just bought?
I really like the Lucid Air, but they're literally asking about twice what it's worth and I think that's gonna end up killing the brand before it gets anywhere. You're right, it's not luxurious enough to justify the money, and at that price point it shouldn't have any bugs whatsoever (like deciding you need a PIN in the middle of driving, or failing to detect the key fob that's right there in the car). It's infotainment system is also really laggy and glitchy, but I suppose that could be fixed with OTA updates. Also, to be fair, the Lucid Air Dream Edition you tested was never rated for 500+ range. Only the Lucid Grand Touring is rated for that, and only with the 19" wheels. And as with ICE cars, when you run the AC and/or drive like a lunatic, your range will decrease.
Hagerty did a fantastic drag strip comparison of the Lucid Sapphire against a Model S Plaid, Bugatti Veyron, and a Ducati. If you haven't seen it, you should definitely check it out. That car is RIDICULOUSLY fast. Although, having said that, I think your "F*CK" reaction to the Lucid's acceleration was perfect. Tell us everything we need to know right there. LOL.
@ 15:35 Shutting that door sounded horrible
The new Lucid Air have a very unique, cool, futuristic and sporty design!
Being quite generous with "great looking" there Mat! 😋
Get in there Matt!
The lower range would have been because you were in the fastest driving mode , you would have to be in the lowest mode and the highest regen to achieve the best range .
One of the best car reviewers. Thx for great insight. Financial stability of Lucid is scary.
If we're going to be drowning in stratospherically priced cars, at least they should be as spectacular as the Lucid. Looks like something very special.
It's amazing how it looks exactly the same like it's concept some years back
A Like for not measuring with 1 foot rollout, thanks Mat, keep up the good work 👍
What the hell is one foot roll out?
@@BarkerT Historically, in the US acceleration times are measured with one foot rollout. In this procedure, two light beams are used for measurement. At the starting point, the front tire of the stationary car triggers the first one. By the time, the tire crosses the second one 12 inches away, it triggers the start of the time.
Reason, why I personally find it annoying, is, because it delivers smaller numbers which get often mixed up when people think about 0-60mph or 0-100kmh times. To add to that, some car manufacturers use this for aggressive, but superficial and misleading marketing.
I am thankful, that journalists try to make measurements under clearly defined conditions. Except of course the British weather. That, no one can control.
@@BarkerT According to an article of car and driver, the measurement with one foot rollout can be seen as something like 3-60 mph times, roundabout, that can differ.
@@helmutgottanka9482 Thank you for your detailed explanation.
It would be interesting to see electric cars on a dyno to test how much horsepower they have compared to the claimed figures
we need stronger dynos for that, usually they have more, horsepower is nor problem for ev.
we will soon see 5000hp and more
Current car Dynos aren't built to measure instant torque. They expect a build up since that is the power curve of gas cars. One moment of highest torque at like 7k rpm.
15:35 “it has soft close, so you don’t have to slam it” immediately proceeds to slam the door😂
This is probably the most impressive EV you can currently buy.
Aloung with the Taycan Turbo S variants with options
I love how Matt has always hiking boots on and just destroys 200k cars and dont give a **** about it. Cracks me everytime😂
18:24 Thats got to be the biggest footprint ive ever seen
Big foot is real!! 🤣
20:47-20:51. I replayed that about 20 times 🤣🤣. With that reaction we know the car means business acceleration wise.
Is it double glazing, meaning an air-gap between two sheets of glass or is it a laminated windows, meaning no air-gap just two sheets of glass bonded together. I believe it's laminated.
Lucid is very dream car for Leaf's drivers👽
Zayn left, not harry but well tried mat😂much love
It is like the first Model S. I hope for Lucid to build on that car and I can’t wait to see their first Lucid Model Y. I know the next one is the Gravity which is more of a Model X. They follow the same S.3.X.Y pattern so far
I like this car. A lot actually. But it also reminds me of how impressive the M5cs is, with it’s 2,88 0-60 time.
M5 cs is slow after that 0-60, now its more important for cars to be fast from 0-300 as the Plaid does it in 15s
@@lukabosnjak3829 maybe on the autobahn, yeah. But still. It doesn’t have instant torque like an EV, and it also has to change through the gears. And it’s still faster from 0-60. Probably more fun to drive as well 😎
Mat: the doors have soft closing, so you wont be needing to slam the door.
Mat: Proceeds to slam the door
😂😂😂classic iconic Mat.
Hi Mat,
Big fan your channel.
You should do a deacceleration test from some speed like 50 miles per hour to 0 with regen and then measure the distance or time so we viewer can compare it to other electric cars. :)
Makes the EQS look like a bargain.
I like this, but even ignoring the price it wouldn't dare buying one in Denmark.
What if it breaks?
Will Lucid be around in 3 years to provide warranty?
But so so pretty for sure 😊
Guaranteed to break. Again and again. Start with remembering the pin. Renault concept design. Haha what a disaster car😂
Battle of completely disconnect from reality engineering retardations...
I'm not a electric car fanatic , but this is a car that makes you say wow
This looks marvellous actually the whole design primarily, seems like quite a good competitor to the recent Teslas.
👉 0:02 It was Zayn Malik who left one direction, not Harry Styles
3 miles/ kWh is pretty good for a >1000 hp vehicle. Personally not a fan of the looks, and would be considering a model with far fewer hp (400 is all that you need, surely?)
😊
efficiency and horsepower have nothing to do with each other regarding EVs.
@@theipc-twizzt2789 actually they do, more power actually makes the motor more efficient. The complete opposite of an ICE.
The Lucid is a lot quicker than me ✊️ 2 seconds is quite a record..
it took 3
We demand a drag race with this in it 😁
Decide between paying the equivalent of a mortgage for a car or an actual brick and mortar. I think it's a no-brainer. These EV manufacturers are nuts on their price.
These cars are for people who don't have to decide between...
You thought you could get away with it Matt? flipping everyone off at 12:29 xD and 14:49 " you just have to pull it a bit harder, ooh i like a manual release" lol
Keep rubbing, pushing and using interiors like you do. Love your work. At this point performance is pointless
This Lucid Air is cool. As cool as even Tesla Cybertruck.
yea they said that when 300 HP cars came, we never need more, then 500, then 600.
now 1000, tomorrow 20000, which is actually doable in an ev.
and it will happen 100%
Sad to see Lucid’s share price fall so far
Yep. It is around $1Million now.
LCID was the first stock I bought when I turned 18 only lost $9.00 as I only bought 1 share but what a disappointment
@@tsaurus5051 I bought 18 :(
Give it time. In a year, it'll be as bit higher.
Just posted their latest results, they lost 550 million on each car built 😂
This is the only electric car i wouldn't immediately sell if it was gifted to me.
Every video featuring Matt Watson is such a treat 👌 Cheers.
And not to mention slower talking Matt too? 😂 Seems like he speed reads through some of these reviews
🤔 at the same amount of money I prefer BMW 7series, is more luxury, more comfortable and more options in front and back seats. I have already the 760 Li V12 2008 and 750 Li 2015 and I look to buy the 2023 version. Nice review and thank you, good job😊
i have 2 lucid air😳 but hotwheels