Matt's Marvellous Marvel vs Capcom Dream Roster!

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  • @flophouseplays
    @flophouseplays  Місяць тому +133

    Here's some honorable mentions I was CLOSE to putting in, or per your comments, are SUPER good suggestions I would have considered if I had just remembered them. (there's so many possible characters!)
    Magik
    Scarlet Witch
    Maximo
    Nightcrawler
    Mr. Sinister
    Cammy
    Palico
    Darkhawk
    Agent Venom
    Adam Warlock
    Namor
    Vanessa Z. Schneider
    Harman Smith
    Moon Knight
    Lady
    Elsa Bloodstone
    Black Cat

    • @leonlegend
      @leonlegend Місяць тому

      Small problem, Matt. Sparda isn't a villain. We've also never fought any weird version of him in any game unless you count the Arkham fight, which you shouldn't.
      I'm not saying you should swap him with Vergil. I'd recommend Credo Angelo from DMC4, as his boss fight is similar to Vergil's from DMC1.

    • @ghostroses2388
      @ghostroses2388 Місяць тому +13

      I'm surprised asura from asura's wraith was not mentioned on video or here, he would be the perfect fit

    • @patricknguyen7530
      @patricknguyen7530 Місяць тому +5

      Not bad choices, some other characters I would have gone with, not including anyone suggested in Max’s video:
      Star Force Mega Man
      Mega Man ZX (essentially replaces Zero)
      June from Star Gladiator
      Junpei Todoroki from Tech Romancer
      Lou or Silva from Three Wonders
      Shang Chi
      The Maker (aka Ultimate universe Reed Richards that turned evil and has multiverse powers)
      Nico Minoru
      The Scorpion from Saturday Night Slam Masters
      Luke
      Masamune Date from Sengoku Basara
      Chuck Greene
      Hit-Monkey
      Lady Bullseye
      Quake
      Brother Voodoo

    • @J-G9991
      @J-G9991 Місяць тому +3

      I would love Maximo as this game's "Who" pick. Finish his goddamn story Capcom.

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon Місяць тому +1

      What if we game every character an "echo" character similar to Smash bros to expand the roster without too many changes? That way we can practically double the roster, and also add back some old favourites that were practically clones anyway. That way we can have Ryu to go with Ken, Venom to go with Spiderman, and etc.

  • @austinwiser
    @austinwiser Місяць тому +777

    Max was too safe. You are far too dangerous.

    • @jumpbeatshoot
      @jumpbeatshoot Місяць тому +39

      Too be fair, the next game should go very safe after the reception MvCI had.

    • @Paz-jv3rj
      @Paz-jv3rj Місяць тому +87

      MvCI was super safe man. They need to spice it up a lot. ​@@jumpbeatshoot

    • @flophouseplays
      @flophouseplays  Місяць тому +185

      @@jumpbeatshoot MVCI's problem was that it was too safe.

    • @ivn_fgc8005
      @ivn_fgc8005 Місяць тому

      ​Safe for the movies fan but not for the videogames fans that is their target ​@@Paz-jv3rj

    • @pap64
      @pap64 Місяць тому +49

      And Thorgi's roster was very balanced.

  • @megamarsonic
    @megamarsonic Місяць тому +126

    The moment you told Capcom “no Ryu” in an MvC4 roster pitch would be the moment they would have chased you out of the building with baseball bats.

  • @Gokulover69420
    @Gokulover69420 Місяць тому +274

    Ik what you mean about Ken, but if MVC4 happened, and didn't have Ryu and Cyclops shake hands in the RE Engine, people would be pissed.

    • @1989marcomendez
      @1989marcomendez Місяць тому +21

      I know may aswell have akuma and doom having a tea party😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Місяць тому +6

      True but we'll get over it (sorta) especially if you brought back Cyclops in the form of assists but this is not what this roster is for and I'm thinking too much about MvC4.

    • @sc149
      @sc149 Місяць тому +8

      Hell its not like theres not cool alt version cyclopi that are both more modern and pulls too with cooler movesets.
      Put "Cyclops Was Right" Cyclops in. Fuck, put PHEONIX FORCE CYCLOPS in this thing.

    • @Eli-t5e
      @Eli-t5e Місяць тому +1

      Exactly your nuts hahahah and if not regular Ryu at the very least, Evil Ryu or Kage if no Akuma plus Link as an exclusive on the Switch successor

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 Місяць тому +8

      Looks like we gotta have Ken giving Wolverine a hug then

  • @Mantis42
    @Mantis42 Місяць тому +58

    if they do Sentry the announcement trailer should pretend he's a returning character who has always been there

    • @Melkac
      @Melkac Місяць тому +16

      The trailer begins with footage from a totally real X-Men COTA with Sentry as a super secret character, then transitions to MSH, X-Men vs SF, MSH vs SF, MvC1, MvC2, MvC3, Infinite, and then shows his current model in the new game. Lovely.

  • @blackmagefelix6548
    @blackmagefelix6548 Місяць тому +176

    Me : Deep cuts he's not gonna pull someone like Sleepwalker
    Matt: Sleepwalker!

    • @somethingclever4297
      @somethingclever4297 Місяць тому +7

      I know alot about comics. And even I don't know about sleepwalker.
      Does he have something to do with nightmare?

    • @MrJuanitos9
      @MrJuanitos9 Місяць тому +2

      The jumpscare

    • @blackmagefelix6548
      @blackmagefelix6548 Місяць тому +6

      @@somethingclever4297 I honestly don't remember it's been so long since i've read the Sleepwalker comics. All I remember is that he was a being of the mindscape and lived in a guys head and would come out when he was sleeping.

    • @Tsalviatti
      @Tsalviatti Місяць тому +1

      Cardiac and Solo as DLC!

    • @mr.badguy8500
      @mr.badguy8500 Місяць тому +2

      That was a deepcut but not as deep as something like Strawman.

  • @logicallydashing
    @logicallydashing Місяць тому +94

    Not adding Cyclops was a bold move.

    • @Falcovsleon21
      @Falcovsleon21 Місяць тому +3

      I fail to see why. I've never been enthralled by Cyclops' moveset in the MvC games but then again I've never been a fan of Cyclops period. (Guy's a prick)

    • @Melkac
      @Melkac Місяць тому +11

      @@Falcovsleon21How is he a prick?

    • @Falcovsleon21
      @Falcovsleon21 Місяць тому +1

      @@Melkac Well, let’s start with everything involving him and Madelyn Pryor…

    • @EquinoxGT
      @EquinoxGT Місяць тому +14

      @@Falcovsleon21 So, just gloss over every apprehensive thing Logan has done but that's acceptable because that's his character. I can't with you fanboys.

    • @TheSneakyVikingJarl
      @TheSneakyVikingJarl Місяць тому

      And the right one

  • @TrojanGamer10
    @TrojanGamer10 Місяць тому +148

    There is absolutely no way in the nine circles of hell that Marvel in a post-Disney, Across the Spider-Verse world would EVER pick Miguel and pass over Miles Morales

    • @flophouseplays
      @flophouseplays  Місяць тому +73

      Right. That's why it's my dream roster.

    • @michaelriverside1139
      @michaelriverside1139 Місяць тому +15

      @@flophouseplays I kinda wish you made a realistic roster AND the wildest cook, since mah boi Bet Ray Bill ain't even getting in the MCU...

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 Місяць тому +19

      Luke from SF6 and Miles are definitely getting in and I’d be surprised if they didn’t.

    • @TrojanGamer10
      @TrojanGamer10 Місяць тому

      @@flophouseplays I got this and I love your roster

    • @TrojanGamer10
      @TrojanGamer10 Місяць тому +5

      @@flophouseplays actually I can see Miguel getting DLC treatment, but I just can't see a MvC game not have Miles as either the second Spider-Man character or even as a "premium skin" at best

  • @DeathAlchemist
    @DeathAlchemist Місяць тому +48

    Red Skull being DLC and not being able to play as Magneto to beat the shit out of him is the biggest missed oppourtunity here.

    • @EmperorSeth
      @EmperorSeth Місяць тому +3

      Oh, good call. Maybe toss in Kitty Pryde and Moon Knight for that too. At least Thing's already on the roster.

  • @JasonRoofie
    @JasonRoofie Місяць тому +58

    Max's list wasn't that safe. I mean, he only picked 24 X-men for the base roster.

  • @BoringLoginName
    @BoringLoginName Місяць тому +39

    No Ryu is just a blasphemy. I don't care about playing Ryu in a versus game, but him not being here is just chaos. You don't gotta do the boy dirty like that. +10k for Regina though. Also, Onimusha star Jean Reno

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Місяць тому +1

      To be fair, America did Rye-U dirty in 95 and 96 with the Street Fighter cartoon given how Ken got more care compared to him. Though if I could fix this, give Ken an install where he fights like Ryu (also a Violent Ken install).

  • @baberuthless
    @baberuthless Місяць тому +31

    Bro added sleepwalker without batting an eye, respect.

    • @flophouseplays
      @flophouseplays  Місяць тому +11

      Everything must be done without batting an eye.

  • @dhdurhueur-qe5pn
    @dhdurhueur-qe5pn Місяць тому +86

    Max missing Lady D was shocking, and I knew Matt wouldn't let me down.

  • @Haysey_Draws
    @Haysey_Draws Місяць тому +56

    Lady D is a massive pick... literally

  • @SingerOfW
    @SingerOfW Місяць тому +213

    Including Rogue and Rouge on the same roster is certainly an admirable choice, God knows Capcom themselves are way too cowardly to make it.

    • @liltoad9050
      @liltoad9050 Місяць тому

      I think you ment to put gambit

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 Місяць тому +19

      We might not have gotten Ryu but I’m so happy we got _Ryu_ instead

    • @SingerOfW
      @SingerOfW Місяць тому +5

      @@liltoad9050 Watch the video from start to finish.

    • @TevorTheThird
      @TevorTheThird Місяць тому +12

      Now to be fair they did have a Phoenix on both the Marvel and Capcom side of UMvC3 :p

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Місяць тому +3

      @@TevorTheThird True but (and sorry to go Rufus for a moment BTW) that argument doesn't work so well in Japan when Phoenix Wright is Ryuichi Naruhodou and his name doesn't really clash with Ryu compared to Ryu who IMO should just be renamed Ryuu if that was an issue. In fact Smash Bros technically gave us two Roys complete with a different voice clip so yeah, Capcom are cowards who think we'll actually have a problem with Ryu and Ryu together. LOL

  • @anonspurdala8714
    @anonspurdala8714 Місяць тому +31

    Domino, juggernaut, Krauser, blade, punisher, you were COOKING here

  • @JJ-xv7wh
    @JJ-xv7wh Місяць тому +88

    Everybody doing this and me waiting people to do CvS3 dream rosters!!!!!

    • @ToshisGarden
      @ToshisGarden Місяць тому +6

      Don't worry, eventually we'll get some of the big guys wanting to pit Haggar against Mr. Big, just you wait! ;)

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Місяць тому +1

      I already have my dream roster/honorable mentions for CvS3. LOL

    • @Honey1essBee
      @Honey1essBee Місяць тому +3

      I'd think those are going to be showing up, with the next collection on the horizon.

    • @000mjd
      @000mjd Місяць тому +1

      Personally i would prefer they took the SvsC Chaos approach in terms of rosters, since in modern times will be almost imposible see a roster like CvS2

    • @faceurhell
      @faceurhell Місяць тому

      The correct answer is "we need SvC2 dream rosters." Because we know that is going to be the crazy game.

  • @LupineShadowOmega
    @LupineShadowOmega Місяць тому +83

    Thorgi sitting back with a bucket of popcorn... XD

    • @MrCageCat
      @MrCageCat Місяць тому +7

      ...while typing a letter to his lawyer 😎

    • @asil.sings30
      @asil.sings30 Місяць тому +2

      😭😭

  • @emperormegaman3856
    @emperormegaman3856 Місяць тому +19

    10:30 They didn't just buy the rights, Neil Gaiman (who created the character) sued Todd McFarlane for the rights and gave, and got Marvel to fund the lawsuit by writing 1602 for them in exchange. Because Todd refused to pay him royalties. 😅

    • @EmperorSeth
      @EmperorSeth Місяць тому +3

      Sadly, the whole "Neil Gaiman made her!" bit of trivia has gotten a whole lot less fun lately. I'd probably swap her with, like, Valkyrie at this point. Maybe Lady Sif or Jane Foster Thor.

  • @CarlosPerez-vs7yd
    @CarlosPerez-vs7yd Місяць тому +44

    Math: Nobody will complain for a lack of Ryu. That's not a thing!
    Me: I'm out!

    • @TevorTheThird
      @TevorTheThird Місяць тому +8

      I would never play as Ryu in a Street Fighter in, conservatively, one million years. Least interesting character on the roster.
      Also, I adore Ryu in crossovers and will always play as him and be appalled if he is absent. He's Ryu.
      Homeboys only vanilla in a game where he's the baseline. Everywhere else he's Mr. Street Fighter 😁

    • @dallasmishey9779
      @dallasmishey9779 Місяць тому +4

      @@TevorTheThird The Ol' Poochie Paradox. We don't think we'd mind if he died en route to his home planet, but, when he's not onscreen, we're all asking where he is.

    • @TevorTheThird
      @TevorTheThird Місяць тому +2

      @@dallasmishey9779 Made me laugh :D

  • @popcultureasylum7456
    @popcultureasylum7456 Місяць тому +12

    Not a bad roster but man, some of the exclusions you made
    YOU ARE A MADMAN

  • @susanaalmeida593
    @susanaalmeida593 Місяць тому +6

    This and Maximillian Dood’s choices is like the Yin and Yang of MvC fan rosters.

  • @jumpbeatshoot
    @jumpbeatshoot Місяць тому +55

    Marvel vs Street Fighter had Norimaro that was based on a real person.
    I would say Max should be a character in the next Marvel vs Capcom.

    • @killerb255
      @killerb255 Місяць тому +3

      One two! This 💩!

    • @somethingclever4297
      @somethingclever4297 Місяць тому +7

      Or we could go the Lego route and have stan Lee.

    • @Vivid114
      @Vivid114 Місяць тому +8

      ​@@somethingclever4297 They have to make him top tier if it happens.

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 Місяць тому +4

      I absolutely 1000% agree with this, and one of Max’s level 3’s could literally be his sick intro to his videos!

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Місяць тому +4

      The only best choice in this whole comment section

  • @scottnotpilgrim
    @scottnotpilgrim Місяць тому +47

    After seeing so many of these on the subreddit this may just be downright refreshing

  • @imawesome2120
    @imawesome2120 Місяць тому +19

    I said this when Max did his Roster. On the TKO podcast bring back Thorgi and you guys just Make a mega MVC roster.

  • @WiiCON-49000
    @WiiCON-49000 Місяць тому +27

    Matt...
    As much as I love your choices (especially Poison and Tiffany) I am a bit sad that you didn't pick Maximo.
    You and I are part of a small group that remembers him, and I need him to come back.

    • @flophouseplays
      @flophouseplays  Місяць тому +18

      Ahh that would have been a good call.

    • @Hiccuple
      @Hiccuple Місяць тому

      I figured he would be here actually.

  • @Ultronimus
    @Ultronimus Місяць тому +24

    As a part of the 1% that loved/remembers Chaos Legion, love to see it getting remembered like this. Points lost for no Cyclops though.

    • @Houldey
      @Houldey Місяць тому +4

      I'd love for his name in the roster to just be 'That guy from Chaos Legion', don't even use the real name lol. Make people go out and get learned.

    • @Hiccuple
      @Hiccuple Місяць тому +2

      I love chaos legion and think it's vastly overlooked. I actually own 2 copies of it still.

    • @IronsaintEntertainment
      @IronsaintEntertainment Місяць тому +1

      tfw you spot your bro in the comment section 👀
      Well...the problem is that Chaos Legion is licensed property, based on a light novel series (there are 7 of them), which unfortunately disqualifies Sieg from being in this.
      Before anyone brings up our good gal Linn from AvP, it's actually not the same as the possibility of getting her in a new MvC, because that *is* finally within some realm of possibility now, since she's an original Capcom character, albeit created *for* a licensed property based on something Marvel's parent company Disney does own, making that hurdle less of a hurdle.
      On the flipside, getting Sieg in MvC or any crossover fighting game would be like Capcom getting Jotaro or DIO in MvC, since both Chaos Legion and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure are licensed properties that got video game adaptations by Capcom. You can probably determine how realistic that is. lol
      That said, aside from Cyclops' redemption arc with finally getting love from Marvel and the fans, there's the iconography of the Ryu and Cyclops handshake alone makes both necessities since seeing the two of them recreate that in a new game would be your marquee moment for the reveal trailer imo.
      While I would like the change of pace to have Ken over Ryu, we know that isn't gonna happen. However, I would love to see "Quick Change Ryu" from MvC1 return where he can change his moveset into Ken and Akuma again, that way we don't need the others BUT they could add skins that are straight up Ken AND Akuma (complete with different voice lines and win quotes to make it right), that way the trio is all technically there, anyway.
      That's the best solution for how to do it, to keep their mascot there whilst also doing somethin' fresh to bring Ken and Akuma back to MvC without taking up actual individual character/CSS space with them.

    • @memesandhoi2924
      @memesandhoi2924 Місяць тому

      @@IronsaintEntertainment Funny thing you mention Chaos Legion because it turns Capcom does own the IP. It's the other way around.

    • @Slayerofall21
      @Slayerofall21 Місяць тому

      ​@@IronsaintEntertainment Then, would you be so kind as to explain why Capcom included Sieg in their 30th Anniversary Encyclopedia?
      If they don't really own the license, there's no reason for him to be included in that book

  • @SAPProd
    @SAPProd Місяць тому +14

    I’d want Nightcrawler to be there somewhere. One of the key characters of X-Men’s redesign in 1975, he’s one of the best characters not to get featured enough in the animated series (gratefully rectified in 97, complete with a long-overdue opening titles inclusion). Super agile, teleportation as not only a moveset but a feature of normals (particularly throws). Also could employ his swordsmanship and tail for agility and mobility. Most importantly, his name is essentially a synonym for “Darkstalker” so any opportunity to get more “Darkstalkers” into the game is a move I want to see.
    Btw, great job including Talbain who apparently was one slot away from being included in the UMvC3 roster before time ran out; Kung-Fu Werewolves should always have high priority.

  • @Gat720Dua
    @Gat720Dua Місяць тому +21

    My only problem with the Marvel roster is that some of the characters, Elektra Daredevil, God Emperor Dr. Doom, Beta Ray Bill, I feel should be just skins with the exception of Elektra with her Daredevil outfit being an alternate costume.

    • @Kenpachi546
      @Kenpachi546 Місяць тому +11

      They could literally pull an Injustice and have alternate skin characters have their own VA with dialogue so you could have both Murdock and Elektra Daredevil

    • @CristoAlba-l1z
      @CristoAlba-l1z Місяць тому +9

      I'd be so legit upset if Electra daredevil made it into a game before daredevil did.

    • @CristoAlba-l1z
      @CristoAlba-l1z Місяць тому +3

      @Kenpachi546 probably the best feature to come out of injustice ngl

    • @Gat720Dua
      @Gat720Dua Місяць тому +1

      @@Kenpachi546 I don't know how different Elektra is to Murdock when it comes to moves, I'd imagine she would fight much different.

    • @Kenpachi546
      @Kenpachi546 Місяць тому +6

      @user-tr1ui4fx1g a lot of people forget that popular fan favorites and legacy characters should make it and not fill half the roster with MCU and obscure characters. Daredevil and Punisher have waited long enough. Nightcrawler, being a fan favorite X-Men, not in a game is a crime!

  • @kami_in_the_skye
    @kami_in_the_skye Місяць тому +38

    Jeff the Land Shark or we riot!

  • @ItsTheFizz
    @ItsTheFizz Місяць тому +16

    I think Franziska Von Karma is the Ace Attorney character best suited for combat with her zoning whip

    • @flophouseplays
      @flophouseplays  Місяць тому +8

      I was super close to putting her in.

    • @GmNdWtchr96
      @GmNdWtchr96 Місяць тому +4

      She was also considered for TvC. So she's got some minor legacy with Capcom's Vs. series.

    • @KarlSturmgewher
      @KarlSturmgewher Місяць тому

      I think Franziska could be KOF Whip's rival in Capcom vs. SNK 3.

  • @squallleonhart9387
    @squallleonhart9387 Місяць тому +17

    You’ve got amazing tastes in Villains, Onslaught, Pyron, freaking Vile?! I would totally play your roster!

  • @tottyRICE
    @tottyRICE Місяць тому +5

    I like your roster more than Max's pick.

  • @themysteriousstrangerthatd8508
    @themysteriousstrangerthatd8508 Місяць тому +2

    Hear me out, Marvel vs Capcom 4: Horsemen of Apocalypse. Apocalypse is the big boss again with four Capcom villains as his horsemen

  • @Tabletopcloud20
    @Tabletopcloud20 Місяць тому +13

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt like Max's side for the Marvel roster was the most white bread stuff imaginable. I don't hate the X-man, but LORD, does Max do tricks on it whenever they're mentioned in a mvc game.
    Edit: Not eve 10 minutes in, and you already sold me on the roster when you added Robbie Reyes. Dude doesn't get enough appreciation as Ghost Rider

  • @TerminaFE
    @TerminaFE Місяць тому +51

    Man-Thing, Carnage, Kingpin, Poison, Vile, and Ema Skye?
    You cooked so hard with this list sir.

  • @Vanisonic
    @Vanisonic Місяць тому +11

    Vile being here makes this automatically the best fan roster

  • @robertd4061
    @robertd4061 Місяць тому +9

    Man, I’d love to see Moon Knight in one of these games.

  • @FinalGamerJames
    @FinalGamerJames Місяць тому +6

    CHAOS LEGION MENTIONED?!?!?!
    Thank you Matt for making me think of Chaos Legion for my designated three minutes per decade.

  • @eliurban2374
    @eliurban2374 Місяць тому +1

    I would be very happy with this lineup. A big danger the next MvC faces is trying to bring back too many characters out of obligation.
    This lineup still has me going, “wait, who?”, where discovery is still part of the fun.

  • @joshkafura5670
    @joshkafura5670 Місяць тому +1

    Matty this roster is absolutely BASED. I love it.

  • @DigiNiverg
    @DigiNiverg Місяць тому +10

    BILL OVER THOR IS BASED

  • @alexandrecoene9024
    @alexandrecoene9024 Місяць тому +32

    I feel like Kamala Ms. Marvel would have to be in it with how she's no doubt the most recent 'iconic' character they got. Plus, her shapeshifting could make for a really fun and distinct moveset compared to all those flying dudes. And on the Capcom side, Asura would just be real cool to see.

    • @ItsTheFizz
      @ItsTheFizz Місяць тому +4

      @alexandrecoene9024 God PLEASE let her have an embiggening focused moveset instead of the MCU forcefield nonsense Marvel keep trying to make happen in the comics...

    • @Rough_Estimates
      @Rough_Estimates Місяць тому +8

      Big yikes, Reed Richards over that idea

    • @doclouis4236
      @doclouis4236 Місяць тому

      We really need Fingoria in the next Marvel vs. Capcom game, she would be so quirky and relatable, you guys😂

    • @GaiashKetoji
      @GaiashKetoji Місяць тому

      @@ItsTheFizzI think her moveset should be focused more on her original powers but she could still have moves using her new ones. Just for skills they can do that her stretching can’t though like projectiles and a shield for her block.

    • @GaiashKetoji
      @GaiashKetoji Місяць тому +1

      @@Rough_EstimatesReed would play very differently from Kamala. Reed tends to stretch his entire body more while Kamala only really stretches her limbs with her shapeshifting focusing more on embiggening.
      And if they wanted they could throw in Dhalsim and have three very different stretchy characters.

  • @Zekana0
    @Zekana0 Місяць тому +3

    My friends and I were doing our own list and someone suggested Kingpin but with Sinister Six moves/assists. Electro fires a beam of electricity at the opponent, Vulture flies across the top of the screen slashing any airborne characters, Rhino does a shoulder charge on the ground slamming the opponent into the wall/air, Scorpion sprays his acid and poisons the opponent/the ground in a spot, Green Goblin flies across the screen with a pumpkin bombing run and Doc Oc grabs the opponent and either slams them onto the ground and holds them in place.

  • @agt_pendergast8899
    @agt_pendergast8899 Місяць тому +7

    What if, Linn Kurosawa was on both the Capcom and Marvel roster?

  • @bean-charlieartz3138
    @bean-charlieartz3138 Місяць тому +5

    I like the idea of Beta ray bill, nice touch!

  • @dnmstarsi
    @dnmstarsi Місяць тому +11

    Have to say, this roster is pretty sweet in my book. Aside from some staples, Marvel has some characters I should know about while having some cool moves for MvC (also Blade, Punisher and Kingpin) while Capcom has some cool and unexpected choices like Tiffany, Cyber Blue and Ema Skye that would definitely work in this game. I don't see any bad choices in my book as I'm glad certain other Marvel and Capcom characters are getting spotlight while keeping certain staples.
    As for DLC, favorites have to be Apocalypse, Squirrel Girl, Dr. Wily and Edgeworth.

  • @shemarmagee7311
    @shemarmagee7311 Місяць тому +3

    Unrealistic, but they should do an "everyone's here" approach and just add some new characters.

    • @Hiccuple
      @Hiccuple Місяць тому +2

      I've been saying do MvC2 with extra bonus DLC for years.

  • @ToaAxiomMan
    @ToaAxiomMan Місяць тому +3

    I wouldn't be surprised if in a hypothetical Marvel vs Capcom 4 includes Jeff the Land Shark as a joke fighter as well as Moon Girl with Devil Dinosaur

  • @TheCeallach
    @TheCeallach Місяць тому +21

    Psylocke would be tough. Post Krakoa, Betsy and Kwannon are back in their original bodies, so if you go with the classic design it’s not Betsy and if you go Betsy, it’s Captain Britain.

    • @alexandrecoene9024
      @alexandrecoene9024 Місяць тому +11

      To be fair, few people playing MvC2 ever knew Psylocke as 'Betsy', so you could probably get away with putting Kwannon and just ignoring the elephant in the room.

    • @emperormegaman3856
      @emperormegaman3856 Місяць тому +4

      Honestly, with how FG works, they can just put Psylocke, original design, and not even call her by her civilian name.

    • @theyellowlurker5201
      @theyellowlurker5201 Місяць тому +9

      I think the design was the main reason Psylocke stayed popular anyway, the vast majority of people would just recognize Kwannon's design anyway and I doubt it would super matter. Kwannon even took the name Psylocke, it's fine

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 Місяць тому

      i'm pretty sure people just want kwannon then, hell i didn't even knew they were two people and Kwanon just has the superior design

  • @ChrisMcBane
    @ChrisMcBane Місяць тому +8

    Vile?! Ok, this game NEEDS to happen.

  • @Bjhorn279
    @Bjhorn279 Місяць тому +2

    Matt choosing Beta Ray Bill over Thor and Elektra Daredevil is why I love him

  • @geeksinhats7471
    @geeksinhats7471 Місяць тому +3

    Ok to clarify about Angela what happened was that she was made by Neil Gaimen when he worked on the Spawn comics, but there was a legal dispite between Neil and Todd McFarlane over who owned the characters and thusly was owed the profits made from toys, and Neil teamed up with Marvel to take down Todd, and now she's a Marvel character

  • @skorie6180
    @skorie6180 Місяць тому +19

    I think, if there is MvC4, the 2 new characters that have to be in it are Daredevil and Ms Marvel, both would fit in soooooo well

    • @theliveliestcorpse2997
      @theliveliestcorpse2997 Місяць тому +2

      It would be insane to make a new MvC and not have Kamala Kahn in there, I agree. You get real wild with her stretchy abilities

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 Місяць тому +2

      Scarlet Witch and Jubilee for me personally

    • @theliveliestcorpse2997
      @theliveliestcorpse2997 Місяць тому +1

      @@squallleonhart9387 Also good

  • @emperormegaman3856
    @emperormegaman3856 Місяць тому +14

    Other dream rosters rely too much on nostalgia or play it too safe with obvious choices.
    Matt pull out sleepwalker.

  • @matachano
    @matachano Місяць тому +4

    Sentry and Knull all the way. We can dream. I can imagine Sentry becoming something like Phoenix (and the Void after dying with max hyper)

  • @conradojavier7547
    @conradojavier7547 Місяць тому +17

    Ryu is feeling the Kyo Erasure Syndrome.

  • @psicopato2460
    @psicopato2460 Місяць тому +1

    I like seeing this kind of roster more than those "realistic" or "perfect" rosters, because these ones are not only more interesting and diverse, but they feel more personal too. My roster's a mix of both, I took inspiration fromca bunch of different lists I saw on youtube, took some characters I liked, and made this:
    MARVEL -
    1 - Peter Parker - Spiderverse
    Clone - Miles Morales +
    2 - Iron Man - Avengers
    Clone - War Machine
    3 - Captain America - Avengers
    4 - Hulk - Avengers
    5 - Carol Denvers - Avengers
    6 - Thanos - Avengers
    7 - Wolverine - X-MEN
    8 - Storm - X-MEN
    9 - Magneto - X-MEN
    10 - Deadpool - X-MEN
    Clone - Gwenpool +
    11 - Doom - FF
    12 - T'Chala - Marvel
    13 - Star Lord - Guardians +
    14 - Daredevil - Defenders +
    15 - Nightcrawler - X-MEN +
    16 - Armor - X-MEN +
    17 - The Thing - FF +
    18 - Green Goblin - Spiderverse +
    19 - Loki - Avengers +
    21 - Khamala Khan Marvel +
    22 - Blade - Marvel +
    23 - Moon Knight - Marvel +
    24 - Man Thing - Marvel +
    guest - Darth Vader - Star Wars +
    25 - A Bomb - Avengers +
    26 - Scarlet Witch - Avengers +
    27 - Ghost Rider - Midnight Suns
    28 - Squirrel Girl - Marvel +
    CAPCOM -
    1 - Ryu - Street Fighter
    Clone - Ken
    2 - Chun-Li - Street Fighter
    3 - Megaman - Megaman
    4 - Zero - Megaman
    5 - Tron Bonne - Megaman
    6 - Morrigan - Darkstalkers
    7 - Wesker - Resident Evil
    8 - Dante - Devil May Cry
    9 - Captain Commando - Captain Commando
    10 - Hiryu - Strider
    11 - Phoenix Wright - Ace Attorney
    Clone - Apollo Justice +
    12 - Caçadora - Monster Hunter
    13 - Nina - Breath of Fire +
    14 - Tessa - Red Earth +
    15 - Akira - Rival Schools +
    16 - Edward Falcon - Power Stone +
    17 - Gene - God Hand +
    18 - Masamune Date - Sengoku Basara +
    19 - Asura - Asura's Wrath +
    20 - Soh - Path of the Goddess +
    21 - Kimberly - Street Fighter +
    22 - J. Talbain - Darkstalkers +
    23 - Leon Kennedy - Resident Evil +
    Clone - Claire Redfield +
    24 - Nero - Devil May Cry +
    guest - Scrooge McDuck - Ducktales +
    25 - Juri Han - Street Fighter +
    26 - Princess Devilott - Cyberbots +
    27 - Amaterasu - Ōkami
    28 - Felyne - Monster Hunter +
    DLC 1 -
    1 - Hela - Avengers +
    2 - Juggernaut - X-MEN
    3 - Kraven - Spiderverse +
    4 - Venom - Spiderverse
    Clone - Carnage (for Venom)
    1 - Urien - Street Fighter +
    2 - B. B. Hood - Darkstalkers
    3 - Bass - Megaman +
    4 - Vergil - Devil May Cry
    Clone - Bass.EXE (for Bass)
    DLC 2 -
    1 - Cyclops - X-MEN
    2 - Dr. Strange - Marvel
    3 - Hawkeye - Avengers
    4 - Thor - Avengers
    Clone - X-23 (for Logan)
    1 - Joe - Viewtiful Joe
    2 - Haggar - Final Fight
    3 - Jin Saotome - Cyberbots
    4 - Ruby Heart - MvC
    Clone - Proto Man (for Megaman) +
    DLC 3 -
    1 - Songbird - Thunderbolts +
    2 - Nico Minoru - Runaways +
    3 - Silver Surfer - FF +
    4 - Black Knight - Marvel UK +
    Clone - Kate Bishop (for Hawkeye) +
    1 - G - Street Fighter +
    2 - Fou Lu - Breath of Fire +
    3 - Wily - Megaman +
    4 - Felicia - Darkstalkers
    Clone - Sylvia (for Joe) +
    DLC 4 -
    1 - Cable - X-MEN
    2 - America Chavez - Ultimates +
    3 - Gambit - X-MEN
    4 - Punisher - Defenders +
    5 - Rocket - Guardians
    Clone - Beta Ray Bill (for Thor) +
    1 - Batsu - Rival Schools +
    2 - Lady Demitrescu - Resident Evil +
    3 - Rouge - Power Stone +
    4 - Yukimura Sanada - Sengoku Basara +
    5 - Akuma - Street Fighter
    Clone - MMZX Zero (for Zero) +
    DLC Final -
    1 - Rogue - X-MEN
    2 - Mr. Fantastic - FF +
    3 - Dr. Octopus - Spiderverse +
    4 - Wasp - Avengers +
    5 - Rawhide Kid - Wilde West +
    6 - She Hulk - FF
    Clone - Krugarr (for Dr. Strange) +
    Clone 2 - Spider Gwen (for Spidey) +
    1 - X - Megaman
    2 - Gamof - Star Gladiator +
    3 - Saki - Quiz Nanairo Dreams +
    4 - Maki - Final Fight +
    5 - Regina - Dino Crisis +
    6 - Jill Valentine - Resident Evil
    Clone - Lilith (for Morrigan) +
    Clone 2 - idk
    Extras -
    1 - Linn Kurosawa - Alien vs. Predator +
    2 - Static - DC +
    That's it, that's a total of 104 characters, I don't think ALL of them would be in, but I organized things in a way so that, even when taking out batches of characters, we still end up with a solid roster. I wanted to cover as many sides of Marvel and Capcom as possible, and I think it came out pretty good

    • @psicopato2460
      @psicopato2460 Місяць тому

      If there was a "Ultimate Version" with new characters, then these could be the ones:
      1 - Iron Fist - Defenders
      2 - Sandman - Spiderverse +
      3 - Adam Warlock - Guardians +
      4 - Jeff - Marvel +
      5 - Wave - Agents of Atlas +
      6 - Elektra - Defenders +
      7 - Jean Grey - X-MEN
      8 - M.O.D.O.K - Avengers
      1 - M. Bison - Street Fighter
      2 - Pyron - Darkstalkers +
      3 - Zack & Wiki - Zack & Wiki +
      4 - Lady - Devil May Cry +
      5 - Spencer - Bionic Commando*
      6 - Nōhime - Sengoku Basara +
      7 - Zangief - Street Fighter
      8 - Sonson - Marvel vs. Capcom
      ULTIMATE DLC -
      1 - Black Bolt - Inhumans +
      2 - Kang - FF +
      3 - Howard o Pato - Guardians +
      4 - Angela - Image Comics +
      5 - Magik - X-MEN +
      (or a new popular character)
      1 - Jack - Power Stone +
      (or a new popular character)
      2 - Solo - Megaman +
      3 - Arthur - Ghosts'n'Goblins
      4 - Akechi - Onimusha +
      5 - Amingo - MvC

  • @TheDownrankTrain
    @TheDownrankTrain Місяць тому

    Some marvel characters that haven't been featured in game and weren't bought up in the video but would work great in an MvC game: Graviton, Doctor Octopus, Shocker, Electro, Prowler, Yondu, Whiplash, Emma Frost, Sunspot, Dani Moonstar, Lady Deathstrike, Madame Hydra.... Those are the ones i thought of right off the top of my head.

  • @MrSleepyweezul
    @MrSleepyweezul Місяць тому +1

    I have been working on my dream roster, I'd want the game to be MvC1 style 2v2 with assist strikers, and I wanted to have a decent mix of old and new, and also not go super obvious. I also went very conservative with base roster size, I realized I really couldn't envision a full moveset for a lot of characters so I went with the striker route (MK1 is doing well with that) so that's why it's small.
    --- PLAYABLE ---
    MARVEL: Beta Ray Bill, War Machine, Jubilee, Vision, Groot & Rocket, Psylocke, Iceman, Kang, Juggernaut, Baron Zemo, Enchantress, Blackheart
    CAPCOM: Regina, Lt. Kurosawa, Mech Zangief, Ruby Heart, Cammy (Cannon Spike), Ken, Mega Man, Astaroth, M. Bison, Dr. Wily, Valgas, Jedah
    --- ASSISTS ---
    MARVEL: Spider-Gwen, Bishop, Sabertooth, Sue Storm, Xemnu, Impossible Man, Gladiator, Nimrod, Awesome Andy, Jack of Hearts, Bi-Beast, Colossus, Spiral, U.S. Agent, Deadpool (as Dan)
    CAPCOM: Fiorayne, Cyber Akuma, Batsu, Alien Green, Hayato, Rose, Saki, Hauzer, Palicoes, Demitri, Urien, Mai Ling, Devilotte, Krauser, Pyron
    I'd have Kang and Bison as arcade bosses, with Super Adaptoid and Twelve (X.C.O.P.Y) respectively as mirrors of your first pick, and either Mangog or White Fatalis as your giant final boss depending on what side you pick first.
    The story leads were The Beyonder and Ingrid, they wouldn't be playable but would gather the characters Secret Wars-Style and would reward the player for defeating the anomaly or whatever arcade story magic that was causing crossover chaos.

  • @LLnullZer0
    @LLnullZer0 Місяць тому +2

    this is the best mvc4 roster video I've seen i would probably still cutdown on SF reps and include asura from asura's wrath and substitute the onimusha protag's appearance to that one from the 4th game

  • @tokyobassist
    @tokyobassist Місяць тому +3

    You leaned a bit hard into the chaos for my taste but I appreciate seeing someone else seeing the value of separating the roster from previous games in order to give it value outside of competition.
    MVC2 roster is vastly different from UMVC3 and plays different too. I hope MVC4 is the same! People forget these games should be platforms to introduce people to new stuff as well.

  • @pacperson
    @pacperson Місяць тому +3

    This list is so nuts you can’t help but love it

  • @zxomegaxz5548
    @zxomegaxz5548 Місяць тому +3

    This list was refreshing/interesting. Too many list feel like a commercial for upcoming products along with "staple" characters/people's mains than a celebration of both brands. Vile is an awesome pick for a megaman villain. Though I wonder which version they will pick. Magma Dragoon would be my other pick for mega man x villain. If we get firebrand again i hope he is based off his demon's crest incarnation where he has elemental gargoyle powers.

  • @kain8501
    @kain8501 Місяць тому +1

    Ill play Man-thing. I dont know shit about him, but i would easily play man-thing! He looks dope.
    Then, I'd proceed to learn everything about him, Ala Shuma-Gorath.
    Then, when I feel like i discovered him myself, I will proceed to talk myself out of convos at parties... because Im really into hiw man-thing plays now.

  • @conradojavier7547
    @conradojavier7547 22 дні тому +1

    You Predicted Ryu Erasure in City of the Wolf.

    • @flophouseplays
      @flophouseplays  22 дні тому +1

      They just going with the popular choice. Natural conclusion.

  • @MartynAndStuff
    @MartynAndStuff Місяць тому +2

    Son of a gun. He chose Zack and Wiki. I'd go them too as a joke character. Great minds and all that
    Other characters I'd consider include -
    - Palico
    - Vanessa (PN03)
    - Someone from Killer 7
    - Ibuki
    - Dr Wily
    Marvel?
    - Miles Morales
    -

  • @YourHumbleNarrator
    @YourHumbleNarrator Місяць тому +2

    I find your lack of Cyclops disturbing Mcmuscles

  • @MajoraZ
    @MajoraZ Місяць тому +2

    After how much the Part 4 Nirvana stuff in Asura's Wrath changed your opinion on the game, really surprised you didn't include him here, even as DLC or an honorable mention,

  • @ShokoArc
    @ShokoArc Місяць тому +1

    I would love Kingpin having a special of him making a phone call/sign and having Bullseye shoot the other player from outside the screen

  • @OverlordNico
    @OverlordNico Місяць тому +2

    Matt is so good for Man-Thing! He could have a command grab super, because “whatever knows fear, burns at the Man-Thing’s touch!”

  • @TheMetalGearKid
    @TheMetalGearKid Місяць тому +4

    I would like to suggest another sword wielding character for Capcom: Maximo from Maximo: Ghosts to Glory and VS Army of Zin. Either to replace Seig from Chaos Legion or as a DLC character. He's technically from Ghosts N' Goblins and he's not Arthur

  • @ScottieBoy99902
    @ScottieBoy99902 Місяць тому +2

    100% on board with Beta Ray Bill. One of the most underrated Marvel characters of all time.

    • @ScottieBoy99902
      @ScottieBoy99902 Місяць тому

      OMG Sentry too??? I think we're the same person lol

  • @kolinedrington5492
    @kolinedrington5492 Місяць тому +1

    I’m gonna be honest, I love it. But omg people would lose their minds with no Ryu and no Morrigan

  • @mistermamamia
    @mistermamamia Місяць тому +2

    what a fun roster, exactly the super deep cut freakshow I was hoping to see! Would love if they did even a fifth of these picks, but time will tell.

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN Місяць тому +4

    I do like the idea of Edgeworth being in and being more offensive than Phoenix Wright was
    It would be something like putting Zero in over Megaman I think it would be interesting

  • @starparodier91
    @starparodier91 Місяць тому +4

    The weird ventriloquist guy and his puppet from Phoenix Wright was the first character that came to mind and I don’t know why 😂

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Місяць тому +1

      Potential intro and outro dialogue against the characters??

    • @starparodier91
      @starparodier91 Місяць тому

      @@dnmstarsi Oooh, yes!

  • @cetospalis4784
    @cetospalis4784 Місяць тому +4

    This is definitely a roster that many of people wouldn't have thought of, but it still feels pretty solid and plausible. I wouldnt really be opposed to a game with this roster

  • @DesignDoc
    @DesignDoc Місяць тому +1

    Ema Skye is very unexpected but not unwelcome. I've always wanted Simon Blackquill or Franziska von Karma for another Ace Attorney rep personally though maybe the former's move set potential has too much overlap with Strider?

  • @MilesLoden-cy5pj
    @MilesLoden-cy5pj Місяць тому +1

    As great as both would be, no knull and carnage can exist without venom

  • @MikeStu
    @MikeStu Місяць тому +2

    Honestly there`s so many different and great versions of these chartacters that I`d love to see Capcom implement a variation mechanic like MKX, where each style would correspond to a different character - or maybe even echo fighters, Smash style. So you know, you could get Peter Parker and Miles, Johnny Blaze and Robbie Reyes, Mega Man and X, so on and so forth.

  • @DPXSolo
    @DPXSolo Місяць тому +2

    Ryu not coming back is a take and a half

  • @brandonwilliams6119
    @brandonwilliams6119 Місяць тому +4

    Onslaught, Pyron, Vile and many other villains sold me on your roster!

  • @PepperPizzaPasta
    @PepperPizzaPasta Місяць тому +2

    Jon Talbain on this list, hell fucking yeah, another W for Talbainerssss

  • @AdmiralGrape
    @AdmiralGrape Місяць тому +1

    22:00 A Marvel vs Capcom game set on Battleworld releasing before the Secret Wars movie is actually inspired.

  • @benjaminknight4152
    @benjaminknight4152 Місяць тому +1

    Bucky is DLC in MVCI so there is a gun using Marvel character in the games. I respect the Angela pick btw, she's an interesting piece of comic trivia. Cosigned on Regina too, she deserves a shot after all these years.

  • @SharonisCarin321
    @SharonisCarin321 Місяць тому +3

    I legit want to see Felicia Hardy, AKA Black Cat.
    Imagine her being a jinx character being able to reverse your controls or disabled Supers

    • @Hiccuple
      @Hiccuple Місяць тому

      Black cat and SpiderGwen, especially after three last spider verse movie. She's an actual great character that marvel has come up with in the last 10-20 years.
      Characters I definitely don't want: Captain Marvel or Ms. Marvel (kamala khan). OG Ms. Marvel with the black outfit and sash would be fine, just not the Captain variety or the Kamala Khan version.

  • @v3n0mbrasil
    @v3n0mbrasil Місяць тому +2

    I only disagree about not having Deadpool. It is a must have due his popularity.

  • @GogotteandSig
    @GogotteandSig Місяць тому +1

    I like this roster way more than Max’s, though Ema on the base roster while Edgeworth is relegated to *DLC* is WILD
    I know this seems like a pipe dream but I feel like we could actually get a big roster like this if Capcom focused on utilizing our current gen technology on providing lots of content instead of using it to add fidelity to each character’s individual eyebrow hairs

  • @spoileralertksua
    @spoileralertksua Місяць тому +2

    I get wanting the Punisher, but I think Elsa Bloodstone would be a cool Marvel gun user also.

  • @ClarityGolden
    @ClarityGolden Місяць тому +4

    Definitely would love Punisher on the roster

  • @arthurpprado
    @arthurpprado Місяць тому +2

    I would also like some more Mega Man representation from the GBA and DS franchises. Even Zero's MMZ incarnation barely gets recognition

    • @The_AGL_Group
      @The_AGL_Group Місяць тому

      Yeah, while Vile could fit fairly well as an MvC moveset, it feels really basic to have the X games (plus Wily) be the only Mega Man characters in the roster, especially after Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite had three X characters and gave them story spotlight. While the MMZ version of Zero has Vs. series history with SNK, I think it's honestly prime time for the RPGs to get their full fighting game dues. Bass.EXE, Colonel.EXE, Star Force Mega Man, Harp Note, if you wanted to go weird, NumberMan.EXE or Duo. That said, for Zero/ZX love, there could be Copy X, Harpuia, Omega, Pandora, Aile, or Ashe.
      Matt seemed SO CLOSE by picking Command Mission X, but if they really wanted to do a fresh roster, they should use a wholly new "Mega Man" for the Vs. series.

  • @destructodude
    @destructodude Місяць тому +1

    The moment they gave Lady Dee a moveset for Mercenaries... she became perfect to meet Blade in MVC.

  • @MoonlightStrider
    @MoonlightStrider Місяць тому

    Jon Talbain would be an absolute blast to play as in a Marvel VS Capcom setting, using Beast Cannons to navigate the stage, Million Flicker to deflect projectiles and control space, Climb Lasers for Anti Air, Dragon Cannon, Mirage Double and Moment Slice being his Hyper Combos, in other words, basically, I want the VGExiles version of Jon Talbain in a playable form, also get Ed Bosco to voice him.

  • @Cobalt163
    @Cobalt163 Місяць тому +1

    Matt I highly recommend you check out X Lives of Wolverine if you want to read a rad story in the modern day featuring Omega Red!

  • @tenworms
    @tenworms Місяць тому

    Probably the best one of these I've seen someone do. There are definitely snubs (where's Asura) and characters I'm personally kind of over (Felicia) but I would be so hype for this roster overall, Matt definitely understands that the main hype of crossover rosters is seeing characters that you haven't already seen crossover a billion times. Sparda might be the coolest pick I've seen anyone make ever, what a cool idea.

  • @ChuckleHeadV
    @ChuckleHeadV Місяць тому

    for me an often overlooked character that would be super awesome, especially moveset wise, would be Mysterio
    fake clones of himself, illusions, could summon stuff, fly (you know hed have a nasty tri-dash) great cinematic super potential not to mention hed probably have some sick voice lines
    hes a little silly sure but he screams marvel vs capcom to me and i can see him fitting in so easily

  • @kingvern100
    @kingvern100 Місяць тому +2

    Daniel Warren Johnson beta ray bill not only fighting with stormbreaker but doing wrestling moves as well would be a dream come true for me

  • @MateusDrake
    @MateusDrake Місяць тому

    I feel like now we need a Max vs. Matt crossover video where they argue back and forth and make a roster that isn't too basic and vanilla, and one that isn't so out there.

  • @bigdoinks11
    @bigdoinks11 Місяць тому +2

    insanity