Ranking the horrors & hotties of the DARKSTALKERS games!
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Morrigan has transcended to become THE succubus of all fiction, kind of like Dracula.
She really has. She introduced the concept to Japan and the entire country hasn't looked back since.
Even if Japan's never been faithful to how the succubus has been portrayed in both myth and religion, Morrigan has such an iconic design that it can't be dismissed at this point.
@@LupineShadowOmega im too lazy to look it up but i very much doubt morrigan was the first ever succubus character in a Japanese franchise, but i'd be happy to be proven wrong
She's certainly the first succubus I've heard of. Although, I thought she was a vampire till after I saw the South Park episode.
Capcom doesn’t deserve a character as cool and sexy as Morrigan, unless they take advantage of it and just put her in Street Fighter 6
But as a 2D Sprite
BB Hood must be one of the best ideas for a fictional character. My previous job had an emulator downloaded on the TV and I’d play during lunch break. My coworkers didn’t know Darkstalkers at all and BB Hood INSTANTLY grabbed their attention when she started fighting with guns and missiles. Darkstalkers’ designs are works of art, but BB Hood has a special factor for subverting the Red Riding Hood character.
Thank you for giving Talbain the respect he deserves.
The design thing I like most about Q Bee are the eyes. I never noticed as a kid that she holds her head down because her 'human' eyes are fake, and she sees out the large eyes on her head. I think that's a nice touch that makes her a little more monsterous once you realise just how fake her human look is. :p
Q. Bee's animations add so much to her character concept! She needs to get into a crossover game...
"You should always be thinking about a Darkstalkers character or multiple characters at all times"
B.B. Hood and Jon Talbain live in my mind rent free
There was Shadow and Marionette. Two characters that can be accessed with some input codes.
Marionette became whatever fighter it faced to be a double. While Shadow took over the defeated fighter, whilst the previous host became a discolored husk.
Thank you, I came here to say this when he mentioned there are no more Darkstalkers characters.
I came here to say the same thing, glad I'm not the only one who remembers Marionette and Shadow.
Felicia is a Nekomata which has much more resonance as an element of horror in Japanese culture than it does elsewhere. I think her inability to be globally recognized in that way is a weakness of her design specificity, but that same specificity also adds nice variety. I do agree with placing her where you did for those reason.
Felicia could also be a reference to the 1942 movie "Cat People" , since old horror movies influenced many Darkstalkers designs.
Doesn't help that she is very far from the regular concept of the nekomata, even by the serie's standard .
@@emperormegaman3856 true, nekomata are more cat with two tail with the power of pyromacy and necromancy. idk if some version have magic transformation, wich would make felicia more a what we call a neko-mimi,hime? wich is a cat that transforme into a woman.
I like that B.B.Hood represents the scariest monster of all: human beings.
greedy human beings
Even scarier: White Women.
I know everyone and their mom is aching for CvS3 or Marvel 4, including capcom, but I’d much rather get a new Darkstalkers instead.
I don’t want to wait another decade going through a bunch of crossover and street fighter games just to see if capcom is finally willing to make a new Darkstalkers.
Crossover games are easy money that you can make no matter what. At least give Darkstalkers a chance to prove itself.
Also maybe throw in other Capcom characters that could work for Darkstalkers including scrapped ones like Ruby Heart.
Imagine how GOOD a Darkstalkers game that mixed the right Devil May Cry and Street Fighter talent could be.
Director: Street Fighter 6
Designer: Street Fighter 6
Artist: Devil May Cry 5
Composers: Devil May Cry 5
Imagine that as a Darkstalkers game.
I mean SNK is doing City of the Wolves, if that can happen, I don’t see why Capcom can’t do something with Darkstalkers, that also has got me thinking
>Mai was reinvigorated by new SNK games
>Tifa was reinvigorated by the FF7 Remake
When will it be Morrigan's turn to revive? She’s one of the old pillars of 90s sexy girls. It’ll probably likely be MVC4 that reinvigorates her into the mainstream.
It really sucks that Capcom just killed off this series, because there's so much you can do with horror tropes. Imagine we got stuff like an warlock, slime/blob monster, lich/necromancer, man-eating plant, a freaking pirate ghost, etc.
Or making Anita fully playable
I remember creating a bunch of characters for the game as a kid. I always though it made sense to make Firebrand part of the Darkstalkers universe, too.
@@EmperorSethon some crossovers, Demitri and Morrigan always knew Red arremer and Lord Astaroth.
@@EmperorSeth If they wanted they could also include Blanka and Twelve.
Heck Spider-Man himself could probably fit in Darkstalkers, people do ship him with Morrigan even Venom, Carnage, Doppelgänger, could probably fit too.
In terms of a magic user, I was always surprised they never had a traditional, pointy-hat style witch in the game. If they just somehow ported Tessa from Red Earth into Darkstalkers she'd actually fit in great and checks off both the magic user and witch boxes.
well morrigan was supose to be a vampire but was change for diversity, and with red hood we have the human character. unless they make witch their own specie, they will be looking for a magical creature like a medieval pixie or german folklore elf. wait unless anita is the witch character?
Any time I see Tessa my brain automatically thinks she's a Darkstalkers character
Victor is probably my favorite just because any character with a literal throw it back special can make me laugh consistently which is pretty huge. 😂
While his ending is non-canon, Dee himself isn’t an alternate universe what-if character. At the end of Night Warriors, Donovan canonically succumbs to his vampire bloodlust and goes crazy. That’s why he’s not in Darkstalkers 3.
I vividly remember seeing the Darkstalkers ad in a videogame magazine. It was literally nothing but character designs on a white background, and yet that was more than enough to fundamentally alter my brain chemistry. It's not an overstatement to call that single page the main reason I even got into fighting games, and a lot of my tastes in media has been guided by them to this day. Unsurprisingly, I'm not the only one - just look at the sheer number of characters using Talbain's Beast Cannon across the genre. Some of them are even werewolves, as well! Even if we never get a single new Darkstalkers game till the end of times, they are certainly alive and well, hiding in the shadows of the industry itself.
In the museum section of MVC collection in one of the pages for X-Men COTA, Darkstalkers gets a little mention
Dude same
Talbain isn't just a kung-fu werewolf, he's also British, so you know he's got a freaking cool voice as well.
I've heard a husky with an Italian accent, now I want to hear a wolf with a British accent.
Blaidd is Welsh, if that works@@Endocrom
I'm still reminded of his Jason Stathan-esque performance in the US cartoon, lol.
His voice in the OVA wasn't very overtly British, but he sounded really cool and had some great lines, so yeah, he sounds awesome in my mind.
For a magic user in Darkstalkers, they should just transplant Tess into the series from Red Earth.
That would be so sick now that I think about it I think a few red Earth characters would really fit the vibe of darkstalkers
While Morrigan's spot is well deserved, Lilith should have been in the middle if only for her crazy attack animations.
Honestly I prefer Lilith at least in gameplay over Morgan but design wise I like Morgan more she is hotter
October is always my favorite month of the year, purley for all the Darkstalkers videos we get in the month😂💜💜💜💜
Here for the references to the Darkstalkers cartoon.
There are so many fun and easy ways to bring back this IP. Souls like? Dynasty Warriors like? Dating game? Cmon Capcom!
I wish Capcom would do something like that
This thumbnail Somehow managed to outdo the blue skeleton Mai of the Fatal Fury video's thumbnail. 😂
Actually most characters are good or neutral good. Only a few characters (Demitri, Raptor, Bishamon (armor), Pyron, BB Hood, Q-Bee and Jedah) are evil.
Q-Bee isn't evil. She's just animalistic. They're like a swarm of locusts, destructive but not evil.
If I heard, B.B hood is not too bad.
@@MaikoTen She's neutral evil. She is a demon hunter but she's is in it just for money, she kills Darkstalkers indiscriminately.
@@MagmaMKII Yeah, she's basically a supernatural Kraven The Hunter. Either that or she's just an evil, greedy version of Elsa Bloodstone for all my fellow Marvel nerds.
@MaikoTen I mean, her ending in Darkstalkers 3 implies she kills even peaceful creatures, including children
It truly is sad how Darkstalkers simply stopped. It has some of the most creativity I've ever seen in a fighting game.
Jon Talbain, Lord Raptor, Morrigan, and Pyron at the top? I think we've found the best Darkstalkers characters for a crossover game.
Talbain is basically Steve Blackman if he was a werewolf, and I'm fucking here for it.
Gonna be honest, this is a very solid ranking. There's not really anything here I have any disagreements with.
Im excited for that castlevania and silent hill tier list.
Lilith should come back with Angel motives like her initial concept art was aiming her to be. That would differentiate her from Morrigan enough.
12:12
Origin - Australia
Matt: "He's a British rocker"
😅 love ya Matt
Tbh I thought he was British until now, he has the Union Jack on his leg.
@@justinc.5591 I too was surpised he is from Australia. I guess the Union Jack flag on one thigh of his blue jeans is meant to represent the Australia flag that still has the UK water mark on their blue flag
Maybe he was thinking of the cartoon.
I mean, to be fair he is based heavily on the mascot of a British metal band, ie Eddie from Iron Maiden...
While he’s from Australia, 1800s Australia wasn’t a separate country like it is now, so he’d think of himself as British.
11:09 "I think Guilhermo Del Toro is supposed to make one at some point" bruh, "The shape of water" came out in 2017
I was being sarcastic.
Lilith gave some good reasons to be higher in the list, but Morrigan gave some bigger ones.
darkstalkers would never do a wizard because they know they’d never be able to top Tessa
As minor characters, you could easily list Blial Aensland & Ozom. They should make graet additions. As well as the Create A Darkstalker challenge from 10 years ago: Relic.
I like that Pyron placement. That pleases me greatly.
Felicia better be in the top five *or we riot*!
Dude, I'm so stoked for the Castlevania and Silent Hill lists.
Tessa/Tabasa should be a Darkstalkers character.
And CAPCOM should stop with the different names for each country, that's so stupid.
Agreed on both your points
Yeah but then again, Capcom of Japan maybe should come up with better names than "Tabasa" or "Gouki" or just combine the names like they did with Charlie Nash.
They have stopped with the different names thing.
In this day and ages, when people can check things on the internet and there is coverage of video game news, it just wouldn't make sense. There is also easier and tighter communication between the different branches of a company.
Remember when Megaman Games had different Boxarts for different regions, that all stopped with Megaman 11 having the same boxart for all regions.
Ah I would have placed Jedah higher. I personally think he oozes style, slickness and personality, imho. Finding out he was lot tier is one my eternal fighting game disappointments, haha.
Jedah clicks once you begin to pay attention to his animations, how he basically mutilates himself on all of his special moves.
Jedah is so cool. He feels like the demon who'd be in a busy suit. Love the blades, love the scythes and how those are connected to his decide. Love the long cutting nails he uses for throws and clawing his eyes and head off.
You forgot about Shadow, Marinette and the characters from the Darkstalkers comics
I can’t believe how personally attacked I felt when Matt put Sasquatch in goblin tier.
My feelings change frequently, but if I had to rank them today:
Q. Bee, Victor, Huitzil
Hsien-Ko, Sasquatch, Rikuo
Pyron, L. Raptor, B. B. Hood
Lilith, Felicia, J. Talbain
Anakaris, Morrigan, Jedah
Donovan, Bishamon, Dimitri
Secret and side characters excluded
You said something along the lines of "it's a given that every character is worse in the American cartoon" and while that's true for pretty much everyone I think it's a crime to not mention how funny Lord Raptor is in the cartoon. Giving him a thick Australian accent and having him yell classic rock references at people was an inspired choice.
“Morrigan Mcmuscles does not exist”
Morrigan Mcmuscles:
Honestly if Darkstalkers ever comes back during this era of "fighting games with guest characters" era they should add Elvira to the roster.
Hell yes, I love the idea of Elvira's win quotes being fully of cheesy horror puns and complimenting Morrigan's fashion sense. Her ending could be a joke ending with her throwing a Monster Mash party with everyone invited, then Demitri lamenting "Whatever happened to my Transylvania Twist?"
Overall a very solid tier list. My one change would be swapping Pyron and Jedah's places.
I think Pyron conceptually is a neat character but I just do not like half of his animations and especially dislike his idle... It makes him look weirdly small and it kinda undercuts his aura a bit.
Jedah's animations and idle though... That's more like it... Going from relaxed and uncaring to ripping himself apart to try and defeat you... Perfect to me.
But still, great tier list. Wouldn't mind seeing more of these in the future.
Can't wait for the video with you and uncle derrick!
Just an “acksherly,” or perhaps not. Lord Raptor/Zabel is from 1800s Australia. He has the Union Jack on his pants because at that point in time, Australia wasn’t a separate country. So now the Acksherly reflects back on me because he’d think of himself as British.
Anyway. It’s just something I thought was pretty cool, because there are very few Aussies in fighting games. The only other ones I can immediately think of are Marduk and Roger from Tekken.
If there's ever a darkstalkers 4, there are 4 characters that I want to become playable. Anita is the first obvious one, I feel like she could easily fill that Witch role if she doesn't get a Carrie like treatment. Another 2 are Marionette and Shadow, the 2 random select characters from I think the same release as Dee, and the final one is Emily from Victor's story, she could become a Bride of Frankenstein &/or a dark temptress type like Morticia, Vampira, or Elvira. I would also like Hsien-Ko's sister to become her own fighter...but I don't feel as strongly about it. Other than that, other horror tropes I'd like to see is Witch, a ghost or banshee, la llorona, a krampus type, some sort of fae or fairy, and a siren
What’s holding Donovan back is that he looks too close to Dan. So it undermines his coolness
Funny thing about Lilith is she has the short Gadouken-like projectile that Dan has and she has pink hair like Dan’s Karate Gi
Morrigan Aensland is my favorite because she's iconic!
Morrigan is everyone's favorite cuz she's stacked.
She a succubus and hot one.
@@keness4768 true very true
Looking forward to that tier list with you and Autumn Ivy, the Muscle Goddess herself =D
Hsien-Ko is my favorite Darkstalkers character. I love her design and she's a fun character
I think the traumatized telekinetic could grow up to be a magic-user fighter; after years of following Donovan, seeing what he sees, learning what he does, I think she could apply his techniques to her powers and genuinely kick six hundred kinds of demon butt.
For a really twisted tale, her story mode could involve tracking him down after he gave in to his dark side.
Hsien-Ko/Lei-Lei has one of my favorite designs of all time, She is my Ultimate Savior!
I think Huitzil was in the American toon. I remember he drained Pyron and was going to sacrifice him. If Pyron wasn't back on his ship in x amount of time, it would blow up and take earth with it. So the heroes and villains had to join forces to save him.
I remember they had a lot of trouble with Huitzil by the end everything was fixed, but the last shot of the episode was the robot's hand like crawling back up to the top of the pyramid they fought him on.
I would love if in a new Darkstalkers iterations they just put "Read Earth" characters in it,
so would have at least one true magic user
24:57 Huitzil did appearance once in the American cartoon. It was the episode “Aliens Keep Out” but given that it was not only out of character but GROSSLY off-color, it’s not surprising you forget it wasn’t in the show.
Huitzil had more character in Vampire Savior (well, the “sequels”) being a reprogrammed unit that looks after Cecil (playing on the “A Boy & His Bot” trope), but in a post-Wall*E world the “last functioning unit” could also work.
I also like that its creation alongside X-Men: Children of the Atom lead to some subtle connections between Huitzil and Sentinel, primarily in its stage where a large “Master Mold” unit looms in the background and is destroyed at the end of the match (tho in the case of Sentinel, the Master Mold survives and flies off if Sentinel wins).
Zombie: C Tier
Punk Rock Morphing Zombie: S Tier
Matt says "Fish men need more love in the genre" then almost immediately name drops Del Toro... Who's gonna tell him?
Tell him what? That the movie came out and won Oscar's? Do they get movies in Canada?
I think Jedah should be higher by virtue of being the ONLY interesting newcomer in Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite's base roster. He alone sold me on the game...regrettably.
The SF6 battlepass made me go back and really dig into these games, when the collection came out i played through all of them once. It's been a week. I am now watching old top 8s, I won't stop bombarding my friends with praise for the series, and I now firmly believe that Vampire Savior is the greatest fighting game of all time.
I am an extreme X-Men fan, I own thousands of comics, and Darkstalkers made me stop playing the collection that literally lets me be Scott Summers.
So please make more videos about it.
I think that Wizard/Warlock character was Matt was searching for was Tessa from Red Earth, she’d fit right in alongside the other Darkstalkers and even Leo too, Leo and Jon Talbain would have a great dynamic and cool interactions.
I agree with everything in the list but Donovan should have been in "True Lord of the Night" tier and Jedah should be in "Ultimate Savior" tier. He is a Netherworld Noble like Morrigan and his design is so fitting. His moves with the blood, his crazy JP voice acting in the game, all combine to create such a great character.
Morrigan Aensland is my number 1, followed by Felicia as a strong 2nd.
Dimitri is the vampire Ryu of darkstalkers who is awesome to play as and right behind him is Jon Talbain the werewolf Ken of the series. The udon comics of darkstalkers share the same time frame/Universe of Street Fighter they even had a crossover story one time.
Fun fact Matt: originally Felicia was going to be another Vampire and the same was with Morrigan before the creators decided to change their minds and gave them the two hot ladies their final design.
Felicia is still my favorite Catgirl after all these years. Nobody else has captured the cute Jiangshi girl like Hsien-Ko either. I know the Chinese Zombie is supposed to be terrifying, but follow-up attempts at making them cute or sexy just... doesn't quite hit the mark with how they designed Hsien-Ko. Also, Felicia and Hsien-Ko made up two permanent slots on my MVC3 team. Both were always underestimated for what they both bring.
Also, we can all agree that B.B.Hood is the single greatest villain in the franchise. She's a human. A greedy psychopathic human who forces us to see what we are.
Thank you for doing this Matt! I actually dug your list!
Huitzil actually WAS in the US cartoon, but just a single episode. Looking at the Wiki, it was episode 9, Alien's Keep Out (probably a typo there.)
I guess he forgot but then again, Huitzil was blue and sounded like a Mexican Mega Man from the 90s classic.
I hope that one day they can add a fully complete moveset version of Anita to the roster. Preferably the older version from the concept art.
Raptor is my favorite Savior, followed by Jon. So your tier is perfect.
Oh, and I think there are multiple Phobos, but they are all bad guys (?). Only 1 fighting for a human and he self destructs at the end (this might be wrong, I don't play Darkstalkers in years)
I love Pyron, I welcome our new alien overlord.
"I think Guillermo del Toro is supposed to make [a creature of the Black Lagoon movie] at some point?"
I think he already did, and it was called "The Shape of Water". Yes, the one which also has its own strangely attractive fishman.
Was being sarcastic.
Morrigan is the Rouge The Bat of fighting games
would midnight bliss sprites be enough for their own list?
Ouuuu
@@flophouseplays Or maybe transformation sprites list
1:31 It took me a while, but I got around to it and I'm glad I did.
Honestly characters like Felicia, Sasquatch, and Victor do fit, since darkstalkers also takes a lot of inspiration from older Disney why the animations have so much life and cartoony.
Sir Matthew, you did forget Marionette and Shadow.......technically they're characters. So glad you did this video though! One of my favorite franchises of all time. Hopefully we'll see a proper return sometime before a meteor hits the earth.
The Ultimate Savior tier is so correct. All hail our Saviors - Talbain, Raptor, Morrigan (mommy), and Pyron (daddy)
I think they called him D ,as reference to the title character of the long running Japanese horror series Vampire Hunter D. Who is a literal dhampir(half vampire) vampire hunter.
I believe in Dee's ending he does end up fighting an aged up Anita that became a kind of spellcaster from the looks of her like you mentioned.
Donovan drug down the OVA for me. There's so much around him that's like Matt said dry and is not more wild fights between Felicia or Raptor.
Conceptually, Donovan is super fucking cool.a Belmont-esque guy with Stand/Persona-like powers and a magic sword sounds like chocolate and peanut butter. Goes to show a bitchin concept can be drained by lack of personality. Adult Anita who's become a monster hunter to follow in Donovan's footsteps would be great
I would love if Capcom did some AA fighting games going forward, like a new Darkstalkers, Red Earth (or a Red Earth RPG with fg-lite combat system) or even Puzzle Fighter. Heck, a Rival Schools VN would be tight!
At least we now have Monstroscopy to fill that horror fighter void which Capcom refuses to fill with a new Darkstalkers game.
11:10 I mean, I know Del Toro made The Shape of Water, which was obviously inspired by The Creature From the Black Lagoon.
I knew what Felicia and Morrigan looked like before I knew what Darkstalkers was.
I love that your ultimate savior list is the same as mine minus Pyron. Morrigan, John Talbain, and Lord Raptor are all my mains.
That thumbnail art has awakened something in me...
Make Tessa from Red Earth a canon immigrant to the Darkstalkers series, Capcom! There's your wizard.
Pretty accurate list!! Might've been a cut too deep, but where would you rank Marionette?
Finally, a ranking list for me, thank you for your thoughts on the coolest spooky gang!
Technically you could also have done Oboro Bishamon, Dark Talbain & Marionette. But they are pretty much just clone characters.
Q bee's actual eyes are those 2 orbs on her head, literally a perfect mimic
Lilith is a what goblin now? Gonna hard disagree on Pyron tbh.
I feel like Harry is not canon to the Darkstalkers Lore
Yes, but it's funny to dunk on him
Woo Darkstalkers babay!!
If there's a new sequel, I would imagine's Anita's archetype could be Final Girl
Huitzil/Phobos is more of "ancient aliens" robot. Nazca lines. Dogu (clay statue) hypothetically being a space suit.
Something like Tessa from Red Earth / War-zard would fit nicely in as a magic user character.
I am surprised you didn’t mention SF6 recent Darkstalkers event that has a Jon Talbain gear outfit along with some Jon Talbain emotes.
You honor the Kreutz clan even if Capcom doesn't, Matt.
Still crazy to me that we never got a Witch character in the game but only in the UDON Comics, Tessa from Red Earth would've been a perfect fit.