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Hello, Thank you for your video. One note; Yes, when you put 200lbs of preload on your coilovers they will not compress until the load is more than 200 lbs. But that is not why we have preload on our coilovers. The preload is only to ensure that the spring does not come loose from its seat during suspension drop (and thus creating all sorts of problems like strange noises or coilover damage). Other than keeping the spring seated, preload doesn't do anything at all! Almost all car coilovers have linear springs. A few mm more or less preload, or diffference between left and right, is not important. As soon as the weight of the car comes on the coilovers, the preload is cancelled out by the weight of the car. Just make sure there is enough tension on the spring to keep it in place, 7 to 15 mm preload (stiff spring/soft spring), and you are ok. Have fun driving your car!
Mostly correct, but kind of wrong too. You are referring to LINEAR rate springs, most "coilovers" have these, especially under the $2,000USD range. However, some have progressive spring rates, and the preload matters WAY MORE in those.
This video was brilliant i did mine years ago and the setup was horrible and car was all over the road but the instructions were in german (good old kw for you) but this gives me hope of actually just setting them up in the house on a day off and fitting to the car knowing its done correctly thanks for the video 😎
Hey Man! Thank you so much for the comment! THIS is the reason I have this channel - I love being able to do automotive stuff and pass on information/knowledge/help to my fellow DIYers. Thanks again!!!
Excellent video! How I think of it is setting which part of the stroke on the shock you want to use, so if your suspension goes over a dip, it can extend far enough to keep road contact. Now, I might be wrong but increasing preload does not increase the firmness of the ride if you are using a linear spring. But will increase if it's a dual rate or progressive rate springs.
Hey Josiah! Thanks for the comment and view. I would love to make a video on this topic but there are PLENTY of good ones out there and my wagon if in the middle of a big project at the moment. So, I will refer you to this video: ua-cam.com/video/6eLmnls_qFQ/v-deo.html it does a GREAT job of explaining how to lower/raise your ride height with coilovers.
Thanks Brother! It’s been tough recently (some of my projects have been kicking my ass) but I got good content coming! Excited to get over that 1,000 mark. We’ll be there soon - thank you for your support!
Im thinking MaXpeedingrods is probably well represented in the Drift Community. www.maxpeedingrods.com/category/coilovers.html?tracking=googleadwords&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwqMO0BhA8EiwAFTLgIIiIGQ2dportsKNT8aKO1ScdgmzjmUTn8tonR9jp_WtQ2MPm5oNraRoCJ30QAvD_BwE
What if I have the suspension on the car already? Can I adjust preload still? Can I lift one corner at a time and adjust it? Or do I need to have the whole car fully lifted off the ground?
Yes, you should be able to adjust preload with the coilover on the car. I dont think you need the whole car off the ground but at least lift the pair of wheels you are going to be working on (front or rear) at the same time just so there is no unusual angles or stress as you are manipulating the coil over. Good luck!
@@beerwrenchgarage ok yea so I just have to either lift the whole front end or rear end then do it. I’m going to redo the preload then change the height. Sitting at rally height rn lol
Not 100% certain - but it does seem to be a common setting for *most* of this type of Godspeed coilover. If you go to their website, it will list all their model #s and the required preloads. Thanks for the view - and good luck!
Theyre pretty good for the money. They are a little soft on the medium setting - to get them really stiff, you need to turn them up to the 2/3 or more on the hardness settings. But for the price point, they seem well built and a decent value.
Yeah - if you are talking about the collars, yes that fine - just adjust them to the preload the manufacturer recommends and you will be fine. If you are talking about the body, then again just turn it to the length you want the coilover to be and lock it down. Good luck!
So which position of preload makes for a softer ride? My ride height is acceptable but the stiffness of these ECS units I put on my E36 a few weeks back are way too bouncy and hard riding, esp on the front with the various terrible sidestreets here. Looking for a more compliant ride with these while having raised the car to suit my old crippled ass now.
Thank you and another quick question so recommended preload is 7-10mm, is that for both front and rear? or does the front need to be higher preload than the rear or does the rear need a higher preload than the front?
In the case of these Godspeed Project Coilovers, they recommend 5-10 mm of preload for both front and rear. I would say check with your manufacturer on recommended pre-load but in a pinch 10 mm front and back is a safe bet.
For this type of shock in the video, the 'spinning grey tube' is the body of the shock and it doesnt spin. The bottom mount spins on to the the body of the shock. It shouldnt need any resetting unless you are talking about the dampening firmness (and that is controlled with a knob or a screw up top). If this doesnt answer your question, please email me at beerwrenchkc@gmail.com and I'll try to see if I can help.
@@beerwrenchgarageone last question, does the preload you did on this video applies for all MonoSS coilovers? i bought for my Toyota Celica without any knowledge of coilovers and i messed up the preload, can i do 8mm of preload on mine?
@@aLexGeNeSiS01 The preload will depend on the spring type and rate but generally speaking for all of the MonoSS coilovers, you should be looking at somewhere around10mm of preload. Yes, go ahead and re-set your coilovers to 8mm of preload and it should be fine. You can do it with the coilovers on the car if you dont want to remove them. Good luck!
@@beerwrenchgaragei truly appreciate the help and time you take to answer it seriously helps me alot, by the end of the day the preload they should tape measure 7 and half right? 👍
More preload gives you a firmer ride and allows you to lower the car further down, but your going to really give up ride quality for minimal benefits, but when the preload isn’t tight enough, the springs can be noisy and leave the strut to carry more of the work load than they were designed for, and usually the result will be a blown valve and will end up needing to be rebuilt much sooner than expected
Yes Sir! 'Floppy' preload will make tons of noise and prevent the suspension from working as designed. All reputable manufacturers will provide a specification for preload on their products. Its best to set preload within the parameters. Thanks for watching the video and thanks for the comment!
I've been working on/building and or setting up track cars and high performance road cars for forty years (yes 40) this year. I've worked with some of the best suspension experts in the southern hemisphere the latest being Sam Macintosh from Marinello Motorsports. SOOOOOOO This guy doesn't even know the correct terminology or how to explain what he's talking about as seen by him stumbling over HUD words SPRING RATES ARE SET BY THE MANUFACTURERS. YOU CAN CUSTOM ORDER ANYTHING YOU LIKE SO ... IF YOU INTENTIONALLY LOAD A COIL SPRING IT THEN OVER RIDES THE FACTORY SET COMPRESSION AND REBOUND EVEN ON AN ADJUSTABLE DAMPER MAKING IT INTO A POGO STICK. IF YOU NEED TO INCREASE THE WAY A VEHICLE FEELS ON THE ROAD OR TRACK BUY THE CORRECT🎉 FUCKING SPRINGS WITH AN INCREASED RATE BUT ALSO TELL THE SUPPLIER WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHY AND THEY WILL TELL YOU WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO YOUR DAMPERS SO TGEY CAN DO THEIR JOB AND CONTROL THE SPRING OSCILLATIONS WHEN A VEHICLE IS LIFTED AND AND THE SUSPENSION IS UNWEIGHTED YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPIN THE COIL BY HAND AROUND THE BODY OF THE DAMPER.
This video is about how to physically set preload on the coilover unit per the MANUFACTURER'S SPECIFIED RECOMMENDATION. What are you going on about??? Feel free to email me at beerwrenchkc@gmail.com if you want to get into details.
@matrixx860 naw he got it right , it’s technical name is a vernier caliper , but he got it right …. Otherwise thanks is for video , pretty easy explanation of the preload
Hey man, this has made figuring out how to do preload, WAY easier😊 thank you for your intuitive video
THANK YOU Brother! Comments like yours are the reason I have my channel. I LOVE to hear when someone is helped by my videos. Thanks for watching, thanks for the comment, good luck with your projects! 😁😁😁
@@beerwrenchgarage keep up the great work putting out intuitive videos. More people need to be like that😌 and I’m glad you’re one of the few who is
@@y0ta.fanb0i Thanks Man! Appreciate it and will do!
someone finally explained this in normal human terms, thank you !!
THANK YOU! Im super glad you found this helpful. Thanks for the comment!
Yapped to much said “uh” 10k times
the easiest way I've ever had it explained 😌 now I can go adjust mine correctly. good work 👏
Thank you Sir! I'm absolutely thrilled you found it helpful!
Hello, Thank you for your video.
One note; Yes, when you put 200lbs of preload on your coilovers they will not compress until the load is more than 200 lbs.
But that is not why we have preload on our coilovers. The preload is only to ensure that the spring does not come loose from its seat during suspension drop (and thus creating all sorts of problems like strange noises or coilover damage).
Other than keeping the spring seated, preload doesn't do anything at all!
Almost all car coilovers have linear springs. A few mm more or less preload, or diffference between left and right, is not important. As soon as the weight of the car comes on the coilovers, the preload is cancelled out by the weight of the car.
Just make sure there is enough tension on the spring to keep it in place, 7 to 15 mm preload (stiff spring/soft spring), and you are ok.
Have fun driving your car!
Excellent info. Thank you!
Mostly correct, but kind of wrong too. You are referring to LINEAR rate springs, most "coilovers" have these, especially under the $2,000USD range. However, some have progressive spring rates, and the preload matters WAY MORE in those.
@@Lunch-b0x Good info!
This helps me understand so much more and I appreciate it. Gotta now redo my preload on my racelands
Thank you for this comment! Very happy you found this video useful!
Been looking for a video like this for the past 6 months, thank so deeply brother 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Awesome - so glad you found this video useful - thanks for the view and comment!
someone who is doing it correctly. 😊. Most honda guys DIY would of adjusted all the way down and think that is how they adjust height.😮
Haha! Thanks Brother! Appreciate the comment and appreciate the view!
Awesome video, great explanation and demonstration.
Thanks Brother! Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for the comment and view!
Just the video I needed, thanks!
Thanks Man! Super glad that you found this video helpful!
This video was brilliant i did mine years ago and the setup was horrible and car was all over the road but the instructions were in german (good old kw for you) but this gives me hope of actually just setting them up in the house on a day off and fitting to the car knowing its done correctly thanks for the video 😎
Thank you for the kind words - much appreciated! Good luck on your install - Im certain you will knock it out without issue. Thanks again!
Dude I learned a shit ton. Great job, and thankyou.
Hey Man! Thank you so much for the comment! THIS is the reason I have this channel - I love being able to do automotive stuff and pass on information/knowledge/help to my fellow DIYers. Thanks again!!!
Excellent video!
How I think of it is setting which part of the stroke on the shock you want to use, so if your suspension goes over a dip, it can extend far enough to keep road contact.
Now, I might be wrong but increasing preload does not increase the firmness of the ride if you are using a linear spring. But will increase if it's a dual rate or progressive rate springs.
Thanks for the view and comment Jim! What you wrote seems correct to me!
Thank you so much man!
Yes Sir! Thank YOU for the view and comment!
Thank you sir!! Even I can follow this tutorial! 👏👏👏
VERY COOL! Thank you for the view and comment. I'm super happy you found it helpful!
can you make a video explaining adjusting ride height?
Hey Josiah! Thanks for the comment and view. I would love to make a video on this topic but there are PLENTY of good ones out there and my wagon if in the middle of a big project at the moment. So, I will refer you to this video: ua-cam.com/video/6eLmnls_qFQ/v-deo.html it does a GREAT job of explaining how to lower/raise your ride height with coilovers.
only video simply explaining and showing the process of adjusting preload ty 🙏
Thanks Brother! Appreciate the comment and am thrilled you found the video helpful.
@@beerwrenchgarage Of course man thanks for the content 👍
so cloee to 1000 subs bro! keep up the good videos
Thanks Brother! It’s been tough recently (some of my projects have been kicking my ass) but I got good content coming! Excited to get over that 1,000 mark. We’ll be there soon - thank you for your support!
Brilliant and very informative 👍
Thank you for the comment!!!
@@beerwrenchgarage I took your advice from the video and adjusted my preload today. Worked a treat 😊
Hello, please tell me what kind of shock absorbers are used by drift cars. Thank you
Im thinking MaXpeedingrods is probably well represented in the Drift Community. www.maxpeedingrods.com/category/coilovers.html?tracking=googleadwords&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwqMO0BhA8EiwAFTLgIIiIGQ2dportsKNT8aKO1ScdgmzjmUTn8tonR9jp_WtQ2MPm5oNraRoCJ30QAvD_BwE
What if I have the suspension on the car already? Can I adjust preload still? Can I lift one corner at a time and adjust it? Or do I need to have the whole car fully lifted off the ground?
Yes, you should be able to adjust preload with the coilover on the car. I dont think you need the whole car off the ground but at least lift the pair of wheels you are going to be working on (front or rear) at the same time just so there is no unusual angles or stress as you are manipulating the coil over. Good luck!
@@beerwrenchgarage ok yea so I just have to either lift the whole front end or rear end then do it. I’m going to redo the preload then change the height. Sitting at rally height rn lol
Are these preload settings for all godspeed coilovers?
Not 100% certain - but it does seem to be a common setting for *most* of this type of Godspeed coilover. If you go to their website, it will list all their model #s and the required preloads. Thanks for the view - and good luck!
I wanna buy Godspeeds, are they any good? How’d you like them?
Theyre pretty good for the money. They are a little soft on the medium setting - to get them really stiff, you need to turn them up to the 2/3 or more on the hardness settings. But for the price point, they seem well built and a decent value.
@@beerwrenchgarage okay thanks bro, last coils I bought were raceland they treated me well but we’re on the cheaper side
my coilovers came loose from factory u can move them freely with ur hands is that normal ?
Yeah - if you are talking about the collars, yes that fine - just adjust them to the preload the manufacturer recommends and you will be fine. If you are talking about the body, then again just turn it to the length you want the coilover to be and lock it down. Good luck!
@@beerwrenchgarage dam my godspeed coilovers came with a sticker that said " preload has been set, do not adjust" on the collar
So which position of preload makes for a softer ride? My ride height is acceptable but the stiffness of these ECS units I put on my E36 a few weeks back are way too bouncy and hard riding, esp on the front with the various terrible sidestreets here. Looking for a more compliant ride with these while having raised the car to suit my old crippled ass now.
Thank you and another quick question so recommended preload is 7-10mm, is that for both front and rear? or does the front need to be higher preload than the rear or does the rear need a higher preload than the front?
In the case of these Godspeed Project Coilovers, they recommend 5-10 mm of preload for both front and rear. I would say check with your manufacturer on recommended pre-load but in a pinch 10 mm front and back is a safe bet.
How do i reset the spinning grey tube? my cousin spinned all the way to the bottom
For this type of shock in the video, the 'spinning grey tube' is the body of the shock and it doesnt spin. The bottom mount spins on to the the body of the shock. It shouldnt need any resetting unless you are talking about the dampening firmness (and that is controlled with a knob or a screw up top). If this doesnt answer your question, please email me at beerwrenchkc@gmail.com and I'll try to see if I can help.
@@beerwrenchgarageone last question, does the preload you did on this video applies for all MonoSS coilovers? i bought for my Toyota Celica without any knowledge of coilovers and i messed up the preload, can i do 8mm of preload on mine?
@@aLexGeNeSiS01 The preload will depend on the spring type and rate but generally speaking for all of the MonoSS coilovers, you should be looking at somewhere around10mm of preload. Yes, go ahead and re-set your coilovers to 8mm of preload and it should be fine. You can do it with the coilovers on the car if you dont want to remove them. Good luck!
@@beerwrenchgaragei truly appreciate the help and time you take to answer it seriously helps me alot, by the end of the day the preload they should tape measure 7 and half right? 👍
@@aLexGeNeSiS01 Youre welcome. Yes, shoot for about 8-10 millimeters (MM) about 1/3 of an inch.
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Thanks for watching!
The front coils is the same ?
Yes Sir - exact same process.
More preload gives you a firmer ride and allows you to lower the car further down, but your going to really give up ride quality for minimal benefits, but when the preload isn’t tight enough, the springs can be noisy and leave the strut to carry more of the work load than they were designed for, and usually the result will be a blown valve and will end up needing to be rebuilt much sooner than expected
Yes Sir! 'Floppy' preload will make tons of noise and prevent the suspension from working as designed. All reputable manufacturers will provide a specification for preload on their products. Its best to set preload within the parameters. Thanks for watching the video and thanks for the comment!
I've been working on/building and or setting up track cars and high performance road cars for forty years (yes 40) this year.
I've worked with some of the best suspension experts in the southern hemisphere the latest being Sam Macintosh from Marinello Motorsports.
SOOOOOOO
This guy doesn't even know the correct terminology or how to explain what he's talking about as seen by him stumbling over HUD words
SPRING RATES ARE SET BY THE MANUFACTURERS.
YOU CAN CUSTOM ORDER ANYTHING YOU LIKE SO ...
IF YOU INTENTIONALLY LOAD A COIL SPRING IT THEN OVER RIDES THE FACTORY SET COMPRESSION AND REBOUND EVEN ON AN ADJUSTABLE DAMPER MAKING IT INTO A POGO STICK.
IF YOU NEED TO INCREASE THE WAY A VEHICLE FEELS ON THE ROAD OR TRACK
BUY THE CORRECT🎉 FUCKING SPRINGS WITH AN INCREASED RATE BUT ALSO TELL THE SUPPLIER WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHY AND THEY WILL TELL
YOU WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO YOUR DAMPERS SO TGEY CAN DO THEIR JOB AND CONTROL THE SPRING OSCILLATIONS
WHEN A VEHICLE IS LIFTED AND AND THE SUSPENSION IS UNWEIGHTED YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPIN THE COIL BY HAND AROUND THE BODY OF THE DAMPER.
This video is about how to physically set preload on the coilover unit per the MANUFACTURER'S SPECIFIED RECOMMENDATION. What are you going on about??? Feel free to email me at beerwrenchkc@gmail.com if you want to get into details.
U are correct, but you should have explained how to properly set preloads since you have the time to type all this out.
It's called a micrometer.
Got it - thanks!
@matrixx860 naw he got it right , it’s technical name is a vernier caliper , but he got it right …. Otherwise thanks is for video , pretty easy explanation of the preload
Reported for dangerous misinformation
🤡🤡🤡 Lol. What misinformation exactly?
Preload is a myth
I disagree.