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How to Use Dirty Down Weathering Products - HC 421

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  • Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
  • In this Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through how to utilize Dirty Down Rust, Verdigris and Moss. These incredible products can be a great part of your overall tools for bringing some rusty, crusty, goodness to miniatures.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:50 Basics
    1:30 Rust
    3:30 Verdigris
    5:15 Moss
    6:27 Intermission
    7:08 Advanced Techniques
    12:08 Outro
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  • @jimholmes4729
    @jimholmes4729 10 місяців тому +13

    Vince is the Chuck Norris of painting. Citadel pots would never dare to tip on Vince's desk.

  • @njkf
    @njkf 10 місяців тому +43

    Remember to make the dirty down products lukewarm before using them. You can sit with the bottle between your thighs for a while or maybe submerge it is hot water a bit.

  • @matthewring8301
    @matthewring8301 10 місяців тому +3

    I like how Vince takes an amazing looking model and makes it amazing in a completely different way.

  • @clarkeol88
    @clarkeol88 10 місяців тому +2

    Thinning using Isopropyl alcholol works really well!

  • @galatician8063
    @galatician8063 10 місяців тому +7

    Thank you for cheering up my Saturday Vince!!! You showed "No Mercy" on that mech with your multiple combo approach. Wow! Can that thing still move? Love the moss the most. Have to get some. And the hat! Perfect humorous touch, but I couldn't shake an image of you as Poppa Smurf.😂❤

  • @rogthepirate4593
    @rogthepirate4593 10 місяців тому +11

    One thing about rust that I feel is noteworthy that I don't think you mentioned (unless I missed it): Applying water a bit more heavily and letting it sit and dry on the rust, especially on a heavier coat, will cause some lightening of the tone that happens fairly irregularly and organically. You can get some more orange/yellow out of it that way, which can help a lot to further sell the effect.

    • @philpeters3689
      @philpeters3689 9 місяців тому

      Same with verdigris. It can go white if done heavy enough 😊

    • @rogthepirate4593
      @rogthepirate4593 9 місяців тому

      @@philpeters3689 True, but with Verdigris I really feel like I have absolutely no clue what I'm doing haha
      It seems to be random whether it darkens or brightens, or at least it feels that way to me. I don't use it nearly as often as the Rust (case in point, my Rust bottle is almost empty. Though admittedly I knocked it over once and spilled about 20% of it on my desk. Fine mess, that was. Looks like rust on a large scale too.), so maybe it's just lack of experience.

    • @nicholainissen
      @nicholainissen 7 місяців тому

      Yes! You don't even need orange or yellow, you can get almost full white too

  • @skynes
    @skynes 10 місяців тому +6

    On my industrial bases I've tried putting Dirty Down on it, then putting water on it, and deliberately letting some drips of water sit there and evaporate naturally. It produces some really interesting super pale yellow patches.

  • @jaretmoskal5558
    @jaretmoskal5558 10 місяців тому +4

    I have Mortarion on my desk right now. You’ve read my mind sir

  • @averagejoe8384
    @averagejoe8384 10 місяців тому +11

    10/10 hat 😂

    • @HunterJE
      @HunterJE 5 місяців тому

      Got to dress for the weather(ing)!

    • @cursling9
      @cursling9 2 місяці тому

      The video is 7months old and I wanted to complement the hat, I had to scroll way too far to find the first comment about it. 💙 🩷

  • @BarokaiRein
    @BarokaiRein 9 місяців тому +1

    The way I use rust and verdigris is with a blow dryer in one hand, and then I reactivate and move the paint around with just a wet brush.
    That's the only way I get results that aren't glossy.

  • @alexjenkinson8510
    @alexjenkinson8510 10 місяців тому +3

    Only thing I'd like to add to this awesome tutorial, is that moving parts tend not to rust. So with pistons and joints etc, where 2 pieces of metal look like they would rub a lot they wouldn't likely rust and adds a nice contrast to the mini

  • @ChibsterofNurgy
    @ChibsterofNurgy 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video, no surprise there. You're looking absolutely divine in that beanie.

  • @AdnanCucak
    @AdnanCucak 10 місяців тому +2

    I really like to dry brush my base colour copper over the Verdigris! Looks amazing

  • @chucklamb3496
    @chucklamb3496 10 місяців тому

    Thanks Vince

  • @RoofusKit
    @RoofusKit 9 місяців тому

    Not just another Dirty Down tutorial. Vince (of course) brings that extra something special.

  • @nickpeachey4199
    @nickpeachey4199 10 місяців тому +5

    Thank you so much for your timing on this Vince. I'm just about done on all my junkyard orcs and recently bought some dirty down rust for an added pop. Lucky I have some brown contrast as well as some weathering powder, but the thought of combining them hadn't crossed my mind. Looking forward to trying this out!

  • @JackDespero
    @JackDespero 10 місяців тому +2

    I literally bought them the other day, so this video was created for me. Thank you.

  • @Wijkert
    @Wijkert 10 місяців тому +2

    Great products which I have not experimented enough with. Will definitely do more testing when I am painting skeletons.

  • @denisfedak5567
    @denisfedak5567 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you very much 👍

  • @kevinhayes517
    @kevinhayes517 9 місяців тому +2

    Appreciate this excellent tutorial on how to best use the “dirty down” products….always something to learn, always fun!

  • @aarongonzales7878
    @aarongonzales7878 4 місяці тому

    I know I am 5 months late but I had excellent results with spraying the area with water and then using a make up sponge to take it off the top areas then stippling a metal over it.

  • @tompeters9829
    @tompeters9829 10 місяців тому +2

    I love these products. I use an oil wash on top of them, with selective application for a Nurgle Knight I painted. Came out really good with minimal effort.

  • @howardcoates6985
    @howardcoates6985 10 місяців тому +1

    some great ideas there thanks Vince!

  • @user-xu3ud4fl2e
    @user-xu3ud4fl2e 10 місяців тому +34

    Shaking the pots is never enough for me, I have to get a stirring stick to scrape it off the bottom and then vortex mix it for ages.

    • @TheRealestBiggestM
      @TheRealestBiggestM 10 місяців тому +8

      Yeah, same. Your shaking doesn't count until you hear the ball bearing. Lol

    • @lloydmitchellnineone
      @lloydmitchellnineone 10 місяців тому +7

      I tend to stick my bottle in a bowl of hot water to loosen it up

    • @christopherheintz2634
      @christopherheintz2634 10 місяців тому

      More bearings!

    • @baronvonfancy9341
      @baronvonfancy9341 10 місяців тому +3

      If you going to use it in a session.. put it in you pocket

    • @FreshCoatKustoms
      @FreshCoatKustoms 10 місяців тому +11

      Just vigorously masturbate with the bottle taped to your hand. 2 turns and you are halfway there.
      What also helped me a lot is laying it flat on the vortex mixer.

  • @LBerti96
    @LBerti96 10 місяців тому

    Who is the little bird man in the thumbnail? I love him! The style is evocative of early digimon art and the Charakter design is just the cutest

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому

      It’s me! :) - I had a great friend do art for all of us.

  • @frankkluge6297
    @frankkluge6297 7 місяців тому

    I did all of these techniques separately here and there, but to see the effect of combination is awesome - love it 🙂

  • @zephyrftw6256
    @zephyrftw6256 8 місяців тому

    Something I tried is making the vertegris into a wash, 1 past drity down, 1 party water, and then applying like a wash. It actually works really well if you want a pretty heavy result as the wish will pool downwards like watrer does, giving it a more natural look. IDK if this is the best way, someone can prove me wrong, but it's worked for my chaos knight :)

  • @goforitpainting
    @goforitpainting 10 місяців тому +1

    Cool effects 👍

  • @tacobruisedays
    @tacobruisedays 10 місяців тому

    Really great to see dirty down on here! The US rep is great.

  • @JuuzouXIII
    @JuuzouXIII 10 місяців тому

    I love the approach you took with these; slap them on from the bottle. I haven't noticed any difference when heating them up. But oh lord they need shaking for several years and then some

  • @redrooster7371
    @redrooster7371 9 місяців тому

    I thought I know how to use dirty down products. But thanks for showing all the additional ways to use them. I recommend the lighter rust. I always mix both of them to get more variety in the rust color.

  • @Astartesparty
    @Astartesparty 6 місяців тому

    Love your videos man , but I will be honest with myself I never will be able to replicate your master work 🎉 truly an artist

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  6 місяців тому

      You can do it! I am no artist, it's all just practice. :)

  • @jans5671
    @jans5671 10 місяців тому +1

    finally i understand how to usw those :D thanks alot

  • @FacesNBases
    @FacesNBases 6 місяців тому

    Hi Vince. Thanks so much for taking the time to make and upload this vid. I love the products but they aren't intuitive to get the best out of them and the basics and the more advanced techniques with other paints is really useful. 👍

  • @Bitzpainter
    @Bitzpainter 10 місяців тому +1

    I’ve had some great effects applying rust over under painting. Particularly over magentas and reds and oranges. Some really cool hues and tones.

  • @studiofoureightnine
    @studiofoureightnine 9 місяців тому

    I've been doing Dirty Down before it was even a normal product in the US. The first time I saw it was an article on the Massive Voodoo website. I had to order it from Australia. This was the old-school formula that came in glass. I added Typhus Corrosion before adding DIrty Down. It is not the easiest thing to varnish and I wouldn't add a thick paint over it as it seeps through the paint. But when something is that rusted, I guess it doesn't matter too much.

  • @rubenlopezcatalan8661
    @rubenlopezcatalan8661 10 місяців тому

    Love the tip of reactivating with contrast and classic products…brilliant 🙌🏻 thanks for the video 👌🏻

  • @Coraxery
    @Coraxery 10 місяців тому +1

    I know it brings enamel into the mix but I've used panel liner red brown with pigment powder to make very realistic rust, it looks off going on but dries similar to the dirty down

  • @Evilminiature
    @Evilminiature 10 місяців тому

    I recently bought these and man am I happy I did. they work so well!

  • @isisnmagic1812
    @isisnmagic1812 10 місяців тому

    Finally the video I've been waiting for Vince to do since I bought the three bottles months ago. Thanks vinnie V

  • @crazyhorse-us3ng
    @crazyhorse-us3ng 10 місяців тому +1

    Where were you a week ago? I just used all 3 of these on my Holy Havoc army and could have used your guidance.

  • @wizkidme
    @wizkidme 10 місяців тому

    Thanks Vince, I love this stuff, but the moss especially felt kinda funky

  • @chicagohobbyhero
    @chicagohobbyhero 10 місяців тому +1

    Love to see your take on their newer stuff as well. Thanks for such an informative video as always
    Also, I now know how I'm planning to do my Necromunda terrain quickly

  • @2dola
    @2dola 10 місяців тому +1

    I love this stuff!

  • @corytokay9787
    @corytokay9787 10 місяців тому +1

    Great review.
    Although I'm curious, is there a story behind thr toque? 😆

  • @galainboredgamer3460
    @galainboredgamer3460 10 місяців тому +1

    Funny...I just finished my heavily weathered Imperial Titan only to see a tutorial about weathering :D

  • @shaunkrogulski9619
    @shaunkrogulski9619 10 місяців тому

    I have recently started using these products I love them, I will definitely add the additional steps you showed with the other products to amplify the effect. Great video as always!

  • @M0U53B41T
    @M0U53B41T 10 місяців тому

    Oh those are gorgeous! I just got the moss so it's great timing

  • @ananiasgarrison
    @ananiasgarrison 10 місяців тому

    Really appreciate this video, Vince. I have these paints but I had very poor success with them. This is great!

  • @eatem1978
    @eatem1978 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for the tutorial, been curious about these. Might pick one up when I get the chance.

  • @lanesteele240
    @lanesteele240 9 місяців тому

    I use mecha color rust texture and then use dirty down rust plus water. Makes really real looking rust

  • @donkey_paints_minis4732
    @donkey_paints_minis4732 10 місяців тому

    Superbe example! Thank you for the vids!
    I also warm them up a bit after shaking. I found it even makes the effects better!

  • @rrekrut
    @rrekrut 10 місяців тому

    Cool, I just saw a bottle of this product at my FLGS this week and was wondering how well it works. Looks like I’ll have to pick some up next time I’m down there.

  • @ILikeYous
    @ILikeYous 10 місяців тому

    I was told by local hobby shop that if you use a Hair Dryer with the Rust or Yellow Rust (newer product) it causes a cracked/chipped rust effect like when you see something just falling apart from oxidation.
    It seems like when I use a hair dryer on any acrylic paint, like when glazing or using it on this product it comes out more satin even if the paint is normally very matte and sometimes its downright glossy and takes multiple passes with ultra matte.
    Do you use a hair dryer or heat and if so is there too much heat or any recommendations when using it?
    FYI I live in a high altitude dry climate so some things just work different when I try them.
    As always your videos are great and hands down you are the best hobby and miniature painting content creator. I am not joking, you are. I have been painting miniatures since the early 90s and no one has a passion like you and a skill level to match it. Please consider some classes in Colorado or just a state out this direction in the future.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому +1

      So I didn’t notice a great difference with the hair dryer. It can have some small effects, but I might not have gone hard enough or warmed it up enough.

    • @ILikeYous
      @ILikeYous 10 місяців тому

      @@VinceVenturella thanks, I am probably going to set up a test on some plastic card. Prime it, airbrush on metallics then do thin plus heat, thick plus heat with each color.
      I see the effects in the local hobby store case, so its probably just going to take some trial and error.
      Cheers and I look forward to your next video.

  • @alancook1053
    @alancook1053 10 місяців тому +1

    Love this stuff but I dread the heavy mixing every time😂!!! Great video as always! Nice Hat! Your fave colors!!

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому

      My wife made it for me knowing my love of the colors. :)

    • @Winterydee
      @Winterydee 10 місяців тому

      ​@VinceVenturella - Thank you for this comment. Now I do not need to ask about why you're wearing the the beanie in the video.
      Also thank you for the wonderfully informative video as always!

  • @willmuckel9131
    @willmuckel9131 10 місяців тому

    Try with ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL. I played around with the Verdigris. The favorite technique was to slap a couple loaded brush fulls if the Verdigris then spray isopropyl alcohol 91% and mix all over the model. Remove excess with lightly damp makeup sponge. The isopropyl alcohol give the Verdigris a brighter look.

  • @christophwinkler9133
    @christophwinkler9133 9 місяців тому

    I appreciate your tips and tricks on the dirty down products, especially the differences. Any tips, what to use to seal in the effect ahead of protect spray on top?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  9 місяців тому

      Glad to help - Just a few quick coats of varnish through the airbrush.

  • @markgnepper5636
    @markgnepper5636 10 місяців тому

    Great stuff friend 👏 👍

  • @miniaturestash
    @miniaturestash 10 місяців тому

    Great tutorial as always Vince 🎉

  • @coltspinks9397
    @coltspinks9397 10 місяців тому

    Oh my goodness, yes!! I’m so happy for this video. I can never get my moss to work properly

    • @coltspinks9397
      @coltspinks9397 10 місяців тому

      I found that after applying the verdigris, if you do a quick wipe it makes it a real light color. Like the wiping messes with the activation in some way

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому

      Glad I could help!

  • @keithdornan6792
    @keithdornan6792 10 місяців тому

    Thanks very much, really useful!

  • @robertwilder4953
    @robertwilder4953 10 місяців тому +5

    I came for the hat...

  • @tombrand236
    @tombrand236 10 місяців тому +1

    The rust is great but not a fan of the verdigris. Think GW’s technical paint works much better.
    Also - mixing with pigment and contrast paint is next level! Never tried that before. Great idea and effect.

  • @ricardoflummiremus
    @ricardoflummiremus 10 місяців тому

    Your beanie looks really fresh! Kudos for the color choice!
    And a happy wonderful weekend Maestro Venturella.
    I have stopped using dirty down, because odor and chemicals.. too strong for me.
    I use brown orange and bright orange kimera paints and dark verdigris and green oxide from monument hobby’s for verdigris. Oh and green oxide and some brighter green for moos. I now the strengths of dirty down but sadly I don’t want to use it for miniature painting because it seems so toxic.
    Maybe they change the formula in the future, that would may make me use them again. Cheers

  • @ElrohirGuitar
    @ElrohirGuitar 9 місяців тому

    I use natural weathering. Paint your models normally and, thirty years later, they look weathered - voila !

  • @geoffreywhitehead503
    @geoffreywhitehead503 10 місяців тому

    Love the hat

  • @HasteHobbies
    @HasteHobbies 10 місяців тому

    Great demo

  • @Gornodd
    @Gornodd 10 місяців тому +3

    My favourite way is to apply DirtyDownRust then use a Glaze/Wash of Mournfang Brown to spread it out. Then use a RyzaRust wash and stipple in between. The lastly use some Red Rust Pigment on Top

  • @jeremiahhammer2282
    @jeremiahhammer2282 9 місяців тому

    Lots of comments concerning varnish got me thinking. There are fixative sprays designed for 2d pencil on paper art that keep the pencil work from smearing. I wonder if this would work on a model as a barrier between the paint and varnish. I’ve got some experimenting to do…

  • @madsolsendoteu
    @madsolsendoteu 10 місяців тому

    Thank you Vince.. just might need to crack the seal on the bottles I have standing and try them out! (Long live when your LGS has a sale and you start buying stuff you one day might need, right..)

  • @jakea3950
    @jakea3950 10 місяців тому

    Ah exited for this! Cheap in my country so i got em. My friend said using a hair dryer during drying was essential for the effect. Might be worth a gander and see what you think!
    Thanks for uploading and creating this sir!

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому +1

      I've used a hair dryer some, my honest answer is I didn't see a large change in the effect.

    • @jakea3950
      @jakea3950 10 місяців тому

      ​@VinceVenturella Great to know, seems like an extra hassel step.
      Thanks a ton for the tests and tips Vince!

  • @leesweeney8879
    @leesweeney8879 10 місяців тому

    Vince did you just add pigment to your contrast paint pot?
    Great stuff as always!

  • @YaBoiVD
    @YaBoiVD 10 місяців тому

    Saw the thumbnail and thought Vince got a wicked hand tattoo 😂

  • @JesseRiley
    @JesseRiley 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Vince for another great video. I am a devoted Wappelian, and paint mostly with oils for no other reason than I enjoy it. Are there any advantages to using this over similarly-colored pigment in oil paint/washes besides a shorter drying time?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому +1

      The drying time and less time in general to get that varied rusty effect, but you could get there with other products like oils certainly.

  • @craigknights873
    @craigknights873 10 місяців тому +1

    Great vid, I use the rust and moss regularly. Vince, did you play around with adding much texture to the moss? As we can have tiny amounts of moss, all the way up to large growths of it. Would pigment, or something similar work there too?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому +1

      Yep, works much the same as the rust, love it.

  • @forgefathervulkanhestan18
    @forgefathervulkanhestan18 10 місяців тому

    5:42 DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE

  • @knecht227
    @knecht227 10 місяців тому +2

    What is the story behind the hat?

  • @1974Carnage
    @1974Carnage 10 місяців тому +3

    Have you worked out how to fix it when you're happy, so a varnish coat doesn't reactivate?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому +1

      I don't varnish often, but I've never seen any issue varnishing lightly with multiple coats through my airbrush.

  • @TorrentKatten
    @TorrentKatten 10 місяців тому

    Multiple (two?:)) intense coats!

  • @EkeiShao
    @EkeiShao 9 місяців тому

    Hi Vince and thanks a lot for the tips, I will try those again when I get a chance. Do you know how they react if varnished (mat obviously) ? I am afraid they would reactivate and mess up the effect. Also I noticed a big difference if dried with a hairdryer or some hot air source, made them pop even more

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, you want to do a couple light coats through the airbrush.

  • @FrozenThrog
    @FrozenThrog 10 місяців тому +3

    Does it react poorly if you go over with some harsher stuff such as oils, enamels, and their thinners?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому +1

      Nope, no issue, that is another way to get some cool effects.

    • @FrozenThrog
      @FrozenThrog 10 місяців тому

      @@VinceVenturella Neat!

  • @TheSilentW
    @TheSilentW 10 місяців тому +1

    What do you guys think about varnishing after applying the Dirty Down stuff? I use Vallejo Polyurethane Matt Varnish via airbrush and did not notice any negative effects so far, but I read that you should not varnish afterwards.

    • @skynes
      @skynes 10 місяців тому +2

      I varnish everything with matt, and never had a problem with it. I do use an airbrush for varnishing, so that may be a factor as I'm not agitating it with a brush.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому +2

      I don't varnish often, but I've never seen any issue varnishing lightly with multiple coats through my airbrush.

  • @michahugo1353
    @michahugo1353 Місяць тому

    Hello, great movie. Can I apply matte varnish after work?

  • @cliffwood7386
    @cliffwood7386 10 місяців тому

    I really should experiment more with the dirtydown products I have - will definitely be revisiting this guide later!
    Also digging the pink & teal hat - was that a purchased gift or a crafted one?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому +1

      Glad it was helpful! My wife made it for me. :)

    • @cliffwood7386
      @cliffwood7386 10 місяців тому

      @@VinceVenturella My wife also does knitting and crochet - good hobbies to pair with mini painting it seems!

  • @arnaud3299
    @arnaud3299 10 місяців тому

    Hi Vince, I’ve been using a similar product named Modelmate about 12 years ago for my vehicules and train rolling stock. It was available liquid and spray. Is it the same product ? It was available rust ,vertdegris, soot black, oil and a few more, in opaque, semi opaque, and translucid.
    Thank you very much for all your so helpfull vids.

  • @s33n34
    @s33n34 10 місяців тому

    @vince: do you warm up the bottle or the mini before use? Or anything else in preparation? Or is shaking it into oblivion enough?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому +1

      It spent 30 seconds on the vortex mixer and then some additional aggresive shaking. I did not warm it up first.

  • @earthenavenger
    @earthenavenger Місяць тому

    Thanks for the video Vince. I’m curious do you prefer Dirty Down Moss over AK Interactive Moss Deposits?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  Місяць тому +1

      Haven't tried the AK yet, so can't say.

    • @earthenavenger
      @earthenavenger Місяць тому

      @@VinceVenturella gotcha thanks Vince! Going to order some dirty down moss to kick my Lizardmen bases and terrain up a notch.

  • @MisterTingles
    @MisterTingles 10 місяців тому +6

    (obligatory warning about not using varnish over them... at least the spray varnish I've used completely destroyed the effects of these paints and i had to reapply over it)

    • @alancook1053
      @alancook1053 10 місяців тому +1

      Interesting, I have been using this for quite a while and have not had your experience. Maybe it’s the brand of varnish or how it’s applied. But that is a great insight!!! 😮😮😮 I use Vallejo Mecha and Ak varnishes. I use Vallejo thinner 80% and 20% Vallejo flow improver 60 40% mix. I apply 3 thin coats. I also use Tamiya X22 and X85 mixed with Tamiya thinner 60 40% mix and apply the same with airbrush! Thanks for the info!

    • @MisterTingles
      @MisterTingles 10 місяців тому

      always a chance I went too heavy (since it was on some Ork barricade terrain), or it's the rattle can propellant...

    • @Zedhth0077
      @Zedhth0077 10 місяців тому +1

      I keep seeing mixed reviews about the effect being ruined when it's sealed. Now I am not sure if I should seal the paint and then do the effect or if it would be fine. I have used clear matte rattle can for years with no problems, but I would hate to see a lot of work and time wasted.

    • @tanidaocphoenix9179
      @tanidaocphoenix9179 10 місяців тому +2

      Personally my rust effect hasnt suffered to an airbrush application of Vince’s varnish mix 1:3 Satin-Ultramatte + some thinner. Maaaaaybe it darkened a tiny bit bit but it was ok for me

    • @toogreytogame
      @toogreytogame 10 місяців тому

      This did happen to me with Vallejo matte/satin mix through the airbrush

  • @FabienMariauxdeSerres
    @FabienMariauxdeSerres 9 місяців тому

    Have you found a way to prevent reactivation? My experience is that varnishes tend to really mute the effect of DD products.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  9 місяців тому

      Two light coats of varnish with an airbrush should seal it.

  • @jamestierney7123
    @jamestierney7123 7 місяців тому

    Can this product be of use for oil painting to accent certain areas of the painting?

  • @Leb3s
    @Leb3s 10 місяців тому

    Since the dirty down products are water soulable, cant we say their weakness is also water? If you get any sort of liquid on your minis while playing with them for example will it not break the paint?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому +1

      I haven’t had any issues, but my models aren’t getting wet admittedly. You can always give a simple light varnish through the airbrush to lock it in.

  • @actinium2754
    @actinium2754 10 місяців тому +1

    While Dirty Down is expensive, you get a lot of mileage out of a single purchase of it since it takes very little to get huge results.

  • @AnExtrovertPaints
    @AnExtrovertPaints 10 місяців тому

    Just a question; how do you varnish these without ruining the effect? Can you use spray varnishes?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 місяців тому +1

      So I don't tend to varnish my models, but when I do, just a light single coat with the airbrush. Let it cure completely, then a second coat with the airbrush.

    • @AnExtrovertPaints
      @AnExtrovertPaints 10 місяців тому

      @@VinceVenturella Great! I typically use AK's Ultramatte and apply with a brush, but doing that with these products would just reactivate them. Unfortunately I suck at using an airbrush. So... spray varnish, then? 😅

  • @Marconius6
    @Marconius6 10 місяців тому

    How do you feel these products compare to the Vallejo Game Effect ones? It feels to me like they're meant to be used in kind of different ways.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, very different products. Game effects is really just simple acrylics with some extra varnish for finish changes. This is chemistry meant to react and dry in particular ways

  • @drewlombardo5942
    @drewlombardo5942 2 місяці тому

    Do you recommend doing the verdigris as the final stage of the paint job or is it possible to do the metallics and verdigris effect and then paint the rest of the model? Also, can you varnish it?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 місяці тому

      Generally it’s something you want to do last. You want to apply it to the element as though you’re doing it in the way it exists in reality. What I mean is starting with the base thing then building the layers that would exist in nature. (The verdigris is on top of the metals and so
      On)

    • @drewlombardo5942
      @drewlombardo5942 2 місяці тому

      @@VinceVenturella great, thanks Vince. I also read that varnishes can reactivate the solution which can ruin the effect, is this true?

  • @Dimes607
    @Dimes607 9 місяців тому

    How would the moss look on Ork flesh

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  9 місяців тому

      Probably strange honestly, too much texture

  • @nopeacejustwar1664
    @nopeacejustwar1664 9 місяців тому

    Hot tip: Mix dirty down rust with water before applying and it will add amazing results

  • @OlafKievit
    @OlafKievit 10 місяців тому

    Interesting! I'd noticed their stuff, but not gone any further. Thanks for showing. The merch looks cool, but on the assumption that it'll ship from the US to Europe, I'll pass...

  • @abrahambardalez4703
    @abrahambardalez4703 9 місяців тому

    How much better is dirty down then Green stuff world rust?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  9 місяців тому

      Haven't used the green stuff world, but I can say I really do love the DD products.

  • @afox6088
    @afox6088 10 місяців тому

    Hi, love your content - this is 420 tho, not 421