Can you answer for me.The clip shares 02 applications in engineering related to oscillations and how to control these oscillations. What applications are those?
I've been a fan of Edd for many years and as a machinist, it's awesome to see him showcasing this side of manufacturing. I have a tuned boring bar on my cnc lathe and the difference is unbelievable!
Can you answer for me.The clip shares 02 applications in engineering related to oscillations and how to control these oscillations. What applications are those?
Edd was brilliant at explaining stuff before on wheeler dealers. Used to watch all the time but now rarely do.... so easy to listen to this man and a genuine demeanor
Wow, guys, you really nailed it with this video. As a mechanical engineer, now I only hope that one day I will be a part of such a cool subject as this one is.
Many years ago I did part of my apprenticeship in one of General Motors stamping plants. We used ear plugs inside of ear muffs. The walls vibrated as car parts were stamped out of metal requiring at least three presses for each part. In their new stamping plant with much larger presses there was no noise or vibration and only one press ror a part. I now understand the science behind the elimination of the vibration. Fascinating.
A very impressive presentation regarding damping, especially the oil-damped model tower. The engineers clearly know the difference between damping and dampening, although the opening presentation used (inaccurately) dampening.
Actually both are correct. I don't know where it started (I suspect it was from a content AvE made), but people who don't know what they're talking about (no offense) keep saying this same thing. Sorta like the myth that got started a few years back that, "WD40 iS nOt a LubRicAnt."
As far as I can tell through research damping and dampening can be used interchangeably in the context of sound and vibration and only differ when talking about wetting something. It's worth noting that they have similar etymologies.
Congratulations on a very relatable demonstration using your model. Simple, clear, and easy to understand without feeling dumbed down for a 3 year old.
More Edd China & Sandvik videos!!! This video is amazing! How I didn't see it before!!! I think he is the best person you could possible choose to explain something, that for most people is boring, and turn it into a very interesting subject very well explained. Do more videos with him please!!!
This is the same as what has been used in Chinese's and Japanese Architecture for hundreds of years only without the fluid. Nice to see you Ed back on the tube.
I'm here because some other video showed a magic boring bar, and luckily somebody in the comments pointed to you guys. Thanks for creating promotional content that actually educates!
Brilliant brilliant work there Sandvic, really like your products, fantastic quality and they do what you say that they do. It was really good to see Ed China was presenting your products, he’s a really good guy, thanks 🙏
Well I'm not in the market for an industrial lathe tool myself but this programme was strangely enjoyable. Ed is a great presenter for engineering stuff. 👍🏻☀️
I've had a huge appreciation for Sandvik Coromant since I was in University. As I also worked as CNC Milling center operator and CAM tech, I know first hand that they are fantastic and when asked which tools should we buy, I often mentioned this company and their dampening systems.
"rather than converting them into noise and heat" --> 4:07 --> A damper (oil, gas, eddy-currents (no pun intended, Edd ;) ) all essentially convert the kinetic energy in the vibration to heat. Did you consider piezoelectric (active) vibration-cancellation in the tip? you can achieve roughly 10x higher effective-damping than passive (oil or rubber-based) dampers.
I don't like many manufacturers' videos, but Sandvik Coromant is different. I can watch almost anything they post. The videos are fascinating and enjoyable to watch
I've got a love/hate relationship with tools like these, they cost an arm and a leg and inevitably get destroyed by some noob who forgets to check his offsets, but when they are running right and all goes well they save a lot of time, money and carbide. I'm interested in trying one of these damped tools one of these days, sounds like they will save a lot of tool life. Nothing worse for a carbide edge than chatter, it'll hold up all day long with a nice smooth constant cut but you start throwing vibration into the mix and things start fracturing.
Very nice demo with the Tungsten weighted pendulm. The wine glass pictures are something I had never SEEN before. I knew about the phenomena of course, and have regretted showing it to my kids ever since.
Fantastic presentation. Thank you Edd and thank you people from Sandvik. I will buy the tool, shouldering Al6061 160mm down, to 0.01mm. Already using R390 and Capto, better than any others.
Very interesting & educational video, I really enjoyed it thank you for sharing. It was nice to see Edd China again also. I'm still boycotting the new Wheeler Dealer TV show BTW, some of us still have integrity & moral values.
A caray lo estaba viendo con incredulidad pero veo que es viable y el presentador dio un volantazo a su temática felicidades por compartir vuestro conocimiento 😎
great tools.....is there any sandvik coromant outlet in tutlingen area of baden württemberg state...germany....ordering from the internet takes decades for you to get the tools from sandvik..please any recommendations.
Respect for the engineering Sandvik put into their products. I am no stranger to their kit as I started my machine shop apprenticeship 45 years ago. I also worked for a few years for one of Sandvik's competitors, the Company founder by the German chemist who invented sintered tungsten carbide. Can anyone here name him?
@@antonioroefaro Good guess. The inventor of sintered tungsten carbide was Richard Walter. He sold the patent to Krupp (Krupp Widia) then bought a production licence from them. The profit from this deal went into founding of the Montanwerke in Tuebingen where he manufactured cutting tools. Early users struggled to sharpen such a hard substance so he expanded into grinding machines. Walter was among the first machine tool manufacturers to use CNC. I worked for the CNC division and we even had a visit from Sandvik who were shopping for a grinding machine to offer a sharpening service to their customers who used solid and brazed carbide milling tools.
That's correct. Sandvik made hand tools for a long time. It had it's beginning in the 1870's recession when the prices of raw steel were very low but the prices of processed steel were higher. Sandvik started to make saw blades out of the same processed steel they already made fish hooks from. That's why the logo became a fish and a fish hook. In 1991 Sandvik bought Bacho Tools but in 1999 the whole saw and tools business area was sold. The fish and hook is still part of Bacho tools logotype.
Can you answer for me.The clip shares 02 applications in engineering related to oscillations and how to control these oscillations. What applications are those?
The whole concept of tuned mass damping is very fascinating. What a dramatic difference adding that damping oil to the model mass damper made but is the actual mass damper in the Taipei Tower immersed in damping fluid?
No, it's attached to big hydraulic pistons that I'm assuming force the oil through a set of valves and restrictions to provide the damping. Though I imagine that it could also be actively damped by having the pistons push the weight around controlled by a computer that monitors accelerations of the top of the tower.
Can confirm, on a 35 horse Mori turning center working mostly 4140, tool steels and large brass bushing materials; silent tools beat solid carbide boring bars every day of the week. Only time I used the carbide shank was when I had to reach way in past my silent tools length or on the odd chance I had to go way small in diameter.
Good stuff - thanks for sharing. I’m curious whether orientation plays a role with extreme length tools while machining. In other words, is there an advantage to milling or boring vertically with the cutting tool at the bottom. You know, gravity is your friend.
Hi! Thanks for your feedback. Yes, tool assembly orientation plays a role. Horizontal orientation is more demanding for spindle clamping and spindle stability because gravity will create a bending moment in the assembly. In the spindle interface this mass moment will be equal to tool assembly weight multiplied by distance from spindle interface to tool assembly mass centre. Larger resulting bending moment on the spindle will lower the harmonic frequencies of the system which makes it more demanding for the mass damper to counteract possible vibrations. Hope this answers your question. Best regards, Åke Axner, Global product manager Silent Tools
What are the limitations of silent tools? Can this TMD system be implemented in a boring bar with small diameters such as 4, 6, 8 and 10 mm? Does Sandvik have that technology already?
Now thats a boring bar. Back in the day, we would use wood, rubber, oil, and do various things to try and stop vibration, sometimes with success. These internal damped bars would be awesome to use. Ive used many Sandvik tools in the past and they always held up well, unless you ran it into the chuck. LOL
I built this into my 3D Printer table and its silly how well this works. And all I had to sacrifice was 40cm of shelf space to put a container with oil to suspend the tuned mass in (which is just a dumbbell).
Hello ! I’m currently in an elit school in France (classe prépa) and I wanted to ask you if it’s possible to enter in contact with you in order to learn more about it and to help me for a project who is named TIPE which count in our competitions for the next year ? Expecting an answer of you. Thank you
Sandvik has brought marketing videos to the next level.
That is a really nice comment. Means a lot! Thanks! 👍🏼
💯 agree
their tools are expensive though, surely their market is limited to certain business areas
This reminds me of Chevrolet commercials back in the 50's
Great Video, greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
This is the best kind of marketing--I actually learned something watching this!
We are really glad to hear that! Thanks for taking the time to share your feedback.
Now this was a commercial advertisement I actually enjoyed. Also...THERE"S EDD! I haven't seen him since he left Wheeler Dealers.
Glad you like the film!
He's got his channel on youtube if you're intrested.
Very well produced. Thank you for proving that marketing does neither have to be boring nor cringy.
Thank you! We are glad you like it!
Why the hell do you explain those secrets?? The japanese, chinese, koreans and other asians right now taking notes
Can you answer for me.The clip shares 02 applications in engineering related to oscillations and how to control these oscillations. What applications are those?
I've been a fan of Edd for many years and as a machinist, it's awesome to see him showcasing this side of manufacturing. I have a tuned boring bar on my cnc lathe and the difference is unbelievable!
Can you answer for me.The clip shares 02 applications in engineering related to oscillations and how to control these oscillations. What applications are those?
Edd was brilliant at explaining stuff before on wheeler dealers. Used to watch all the time but now rarely do.... so easy to listen to this man and a genuine demeanor
WOW, I”ve never tought of putting a tuned mass damper in a cutting tool. Amazing, good job Sandvik !!
Wow, guys, you really nailed it with this video. As a mechanical engineer, now I only hope that one day I will be a part of such a cool subject as this one is.
Many years ago I did part of my apprenticeship in one of General Motors stamping plants. We used ear plugs inside of ear muffs. The walls vibrated as car parts were stamped out of metal requiring at least three presses for each part. In their new stamping plant with much larger presses there was no noise or vibration and only one press ror a part. I now understand the science behind the elimination of the vibration. Fascinating.
A very impressive presentation regarding damping, especially the oil-damped model tower.
The engineers clearly know the difference between damping and dampening, although the opening presentation used (inaccurately) dampening.
Thanks for very nice feedback!
Actually both are correct. I don't know where it started (I suspect it was from a content AvE made), but people who don't know what they're talking about (no offense) keep saying this same thing. Sorta like the myth that got started a few years back that, "WD40 iS nOt a LubRicAnt."
As far as I can tell through research damping and dampening can be used interchangeably in the context of sound and vibration and only differ when talking about wetting something. It's worth noting that they have similar etymologies.
Congratulations on a very relatable demonstration using your model. Simple, clear, and easy to understand without feeling dumbed down for a 3 year old.
More Edd China & Sandvik videos!!! This video is amazing! How I didn't see it before!!! I think he is the best person you could possible choose to explain something, that for most people is boring, and turn it into a very interesting subject very well explained. Do more videos with him please!!!
Good to see Ed China back love his enthusiasm!
Great storyline... educative & attractive video. Can imagine as an interesting learning material for students. Well done, Sandvik Coromant!
Everything is a spring except winter.
hi S O N...
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earthquake is a any day / any time / any where / any weather in the 4 seasons
Great to see Edd’s face again! That slow motion machining was fantastic. Great video!
Thank you Todd!
More of this please.
You never know what the future holds...
This is the same as what has been used in Chinese's and Japanese Architecture for hundreds of years only without the fluid. Nice to see you Ed back on the tube.
I'm here because some other video showed a magic boring bar, and luckily somebody in the comments pointed to you guys. Thanks for creating promotional content that actually educates!
Brilliant brilliant work there Sandvic, really like your products, fantastic quality and they do what you say that they do. It was really good to see Ed China was presenting your products, he’s a really good guy, thanks 🙏
Holy shit Edd, out there playing with the big kids!
Well I'm not in the market for an industrial lathe tool myself but this programme was strangely enjoyable. Ed is a great presenter for engineering stuff. 👍🏻☀️
Infomercial 😂👍🏻❤️
I've had a huge appreciation for Sandvik Coromant since I was in University. As I also worked as CNC Milling center operator and CAM tech, I know first hand that they are fantastic and when asked which tools should we buy, I often mentioned this company and their dampening systems.
Thank you for your very positive feedback! Much appreciated. :)
At 7:30 what is the HP 6 DOF mouse she is using?? I'm unable to find any details on the internet.
I love Edd and i am a user of sandvik
😍😍😍
Another great video Edd.Be nice to see you back on tv again.
"rather than converting them into noise and heat" --> 4:07 --> A damper (oil, gas, eddy-currents (no pun intended, Edd ;) ) all essentially convert the kinetic energy in the vibration to heat.
Did you consider piezoelectric (active) vibration-cancellation in the tip? you can achieve roughly 10x higher effective-damping than passive (oil or rubber-based) dampers.
Piezo, that's a really good idea.
How does that work?
@@markfryer9880 dspe.nl/files/wesic2001.pdf
@@markfryer9880 also imotec.nl/imotec.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ActiveDamping2008Mikroniek.pdf
11:40 Amazing demo of “Tuned Mass Damping” of the Taipei Tower! Impressive!!
Excellent demo with the Tuned Mass Damper ! Best on UA-cam…
Only Ed China can make a comercial fun and educational. Great guy!!!
Thank you! Happy to hear you enjoyed this video.
That was really cool. Just enough information and details. The viscous liquid damper is so effective. wow.
This was awesome to watch and very informative
Hi Will,
We are so glad you liked it!
I don't like many manufacturers' videos, but Sandvik Coromant is different. I can watch almost anything they post. The videos are fascinating and enjoyable to watch
Thanks, happy to hear you enjoy our videos!
Probably one of the best informative Sandvik adverts I have ever seen. We are a long time Sandvik user.
Thank you for that wonderful feedback! We truly appreciate it.
Beautiful model. Loved the liquid dampening. :)
I've got a love/hate relationship with tools like these, they cost an arm and a leg and inevitably get destroyed by some noob who forgets to check his offsets, but when they are running right and all goes well they save a lot of time, money and carbide. I'm interested in trying one of these damped tools one of these days, sounds like they will save a lot of tool life. Nothing worse for a carbide edge than chatter, it'll hold up all day long with a nice smooth constant cut but you start throwing vibration into the mix and things start fracturing.
Very nice demo with the Tungsten weighted pendulm.
The wine glass pictures are something I had never SEEN before. I knew about the phenomena of course, and have regretted showing it to my kids ever since.
11:41 Wow, that's incredible! It never crossed my mind to use oil that way. Just how effective it is, that just blew my mind!
Edd , you always were the best explaining physics and how things work
Good infomercial. Enjoyable.
Thank you Allan! :)
That was fun. Bring Edd back for some more videos!
That was just amazing to see in reality like that! and your tools are also really cutting edge !
good to see edd, explains everything so well
I am here cause the 7.1 earthquake that happened today. The ball worked perfectly!
Bravo Sandvik, bravo. I can't afford your cutting tools, but you and Edd make great adverts...
Fantastic presentation.
Thank you Edd and thank you people from Sandvik.
I will buy the tool, shouldering Al6061 160mm down, to 0.01mm.
Already using R390 and Capto, better than any others.
Good to see you Ed😎
Amazing demonstration!
So glad you enjoyed it!
Очень доходчиво и наглядно. Спасибо за ролик
Ed,,, so glad to see you again,,,I stopped watching w d after you left show sux without you,, you have a new sub
Video of the century
😍😍😍😍😍
We couldn’t ask for better feedback than that! Thank you!
So glad this popped up in my feed, go Edd china and Sandvik!
Thank you! We’re glad you like it.
Very good. Learned a lot by the universality of the comparisons.
Very interesting & educational video, I really enjoyed it thank you for sharing. It was nice to see Edd China again also. I'm still boycotting the new Wheeler Dealer TV show BTW, some of us still have integrity & moral values.
Totally agree with you Mr Jet, Wheeler Dealers without Ed China is just wrong.
I'm going to graduate in mechanical engineering, I found a passion for metal works. Thanks Sandvik
When a marketing video teaches you stuff and actually shows some great tech it's done right!
Really cool !!! Damping technology in machining vs buiding security against earthquakes
Fascinating stuff Edd! I hope there is much more to come.
A caray lo estaba viendo con incredulidad pero veo que es viable y el presentador dio un volantazo a su temática felicidades por compartir vuestro conocimiento 😎
great tools.....is there any sandvik coromant outlet in tutlingen area of baden württemberg state...germany....ordering from the internet takes decades for you to get the tools from sandvik..please any recommendations.
Good to see you Ed!
I just watched a long-form commercial and I liked it. Brilliant.
really nice video with Edd and good model done to present everything in a clear way. Well done guys!
Holy crap, you got Edd? That's fantastic!
Respect for the engineering Sandvik put into their products. I am no stranger to their kit as I started my machine shop apprenticeship 45 years ago.
I also worked for a few years for one of Sandvik's competitors, the Company founder by the German chemist who invented sintered tungsten carbide. Can anyone here name him?
Widia?
@@antonioroefaro Good guess. The inventor of sintered tungsten carbide was Richard Walter. He sold the patent to Krupp (Krupp Widia) then bought a production licence from them. The profit from this deal went into founding of the Montanwerke in Tuebingen where he manufactured cutting tools. Early users struggled to sharpen such a hard substance so he expanded into grinding machines. Walter was among the first machine tool manufacturers to use CNC. I worked for the CNC division and we even had a visit from Sandvik who were shopping for a grinding machine to offer a sharpening service to their customers who used solid and brazed carbide milling tools.
I love the fact they use real users in their videos. It speaks a lot to the quality!
Edd always makes me smile.
And it proved itself today on 3 April 2024.;
I don't know why I'm here. What happened on April 3rd?
my 81 year old dad is from denmark and he still has his sandvik chisels- their company symbol used to be a fish.
That's correct. Sandvik made hand tools for a long time. It had it's beginning in the 1870's recession when the prices of raw steel were very low but the prices of processed steel were higher. Sandvik started to make saw blades out of the same processed steel they already made fish hooks from. That's why the logo became a fish and a fish hook. In 1991 Sandvik bought Bacho Tools but in 1999 the whole saw and tools business area was sold. The fish and hook is still part of Bacho tools logotype.
Quality tools and now quality infomercials. Impressive!
Glad you think so!
Very interesting. My largest boring bar is 3.25" dia and it bores 20" without vibration... 21" deep and it chatters like crazy.
Hello mate , how's the trepanning today ?
Get you one of those $20,000 boring bars and see how much better it does 😂
Reno Simpson I see what you did there...
-10% speed +10%feed if that fails then full send
Great video!👍
Thanks! 😃
One of the coolest videos I've seen !
11:58 It's great. So, where does the mechanical energy from the vibration go? Does it transfer to be heat energy into the liquid or where does it go?
Great vid, Ed!!. Sending U "good vibrations"!!😁👍
Can you answer for me.The clip shares 02 applications in engineering related to oscillations and how to control these oscillations. What applications are those?
Excellent 👍
Cool presentation sir 👍
Interesting to see this application on other hand tools and firearms.
The whole concept of tuned mass damping is very fascinating. What a dramatic difference adding that damping oil to the model mass damper made but is the actual mass damper in the Taipei Tower immersed in damping fluid?
No, it's attached to big hydraulic pistons that I'm assuming force the oil through a set of valves and restrictions to provide the damping. Though I imagine that it could also be actively damped by having the pistons push the weight around controlled by a computer that monitors accelerations of the top of the tower.
Very cool video. Watching this after the Taipei 6.9 earthquake on Sept 18, 2022.
I love the information.
Great content, very educative and practical
My old Citroen 2cv had tuned mass dampers on each wheel. Basically a weight inside a vertical steel canister filled with oil. Pretty smart devices!
Can confirm, on a 35 horse Mori turning center working mostly 4140, tool steels and large brass bushing materials; silent tools beat solid carbide boring bars every day of the week. Only time I used the carbide shank was when I had to reach way in past my silent tools length or on the odd chance I had to go way small in diameter.
Great building demo
Good stuff - thanks for sharing. I’m curious whether orientation plays a role with extreme length tools while machining. In other words, is there an advantage to milling or boring vertically with the cutting tool at the bottom. You know, gravity is your friend.
Hi!
Thanks for your feedback. Yes, tool assembly orientation plays a role. Horizontal orientation is more demanding for spindle clamping and spindle stability because gravity will create a bending moment in the assembly. In the spindle interface this mass moment will be equal to tool assembly weight multiplied by distance from spindle interface to tool assembly mass centre. Larger resulting bending moment on the spindle will lower the harmonic frequencies of the system which makes it more demanding for the mass damper to counteract possible vibrations.
Hope this answers your question.
Best regards,
Åke Axner, Global product manager Silent Tools
Well done, thank you!
Glad you like it!
I missed you Edd.
I’m sure Edd missed you as well! 😉
What are the limitations of silent tools? Can this TMD system be implemented in a boring bar with small diameters such as 4, 6, 8 and 10 mm? Does Sandvik have that technology already?
Me gustaría que sigas con las clases de mecánica realmente aprendí bastante y estoy seguro que podrías seguir enseñando mucho más!
Amazing work
But how do you distribute the steel down buildings over 300 meters tall?
Now thats a boring bar. Back in the day, we would use wood, rubber, oil, and do various things to try and stop vibration, sometimes with success.
These internal damped bars would be awesome to use.
Ive used many Sandvik tools in the past and they always held up well, unless you ran it into the chuck. LOL
非常直观的演示，太棒了。
Amazing 👏good work sandvik
Thanks a lot!
What kind of mouse is being used at 7.30?
What a perfect Video! Incredible
Awesome Video, Sandvik. Thank You Very Much.
Very glad you like it!
I built this into my 3D Printer table and its silly how well this works.
And all I had to sacrifice was 40cm of shelf space to put a container with oil to suspend the tuned mass in (which is just a dumbbell).
Hello ! I’m currently in an elit school in France (classe prépa) and I wanted to ask you if it’s possible to enter in contact with you in order to learn more about it and to help me for a project who is named TIPE which count in our competitions for the next year ?
Expecting an answer of you.
Thank you