Check out all my Cherry Audio playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLWo-iS-wwHXEjf-Hir63AWPiLPkCLQFLS.html DCO106 ua-cam.com/video/z2S0a005Pu0/v-deo.html Memory Mode ua-cam.com/video/OVsNb9kb7Zk/v-deo.html CA 2600 ua-cam.com/video/TcKFWlHoeLA/v-deo.html PS-20 ua-cam.com/video/k9-JQWgYkT4/v-deo.html
The question I would really like to ask is, are all these Cherry Audio synths genuinely new synths or are they basically the same engine software repackaged. If anyone could answer this question it would be you. Really appreciate your expertise on all you vids. Thanks Jim
@@Jimkirkwood24 They're definitely not the same engine repackaged. I imagine they must re-use some code in each (I would think all do tbh) but things like the filters appear to be genuinely different in each - or at least tweaked to give different responses etc. The PS20 filter for example is very different to this, and the DCO 106 was different again etc. I think a lot of the fun of these though is playing with the same limitations and routings as the vintage synths.. to get similar (if not always identical) tones.
Thank you for taking the time and patience to reply. Really appreciate that. I have the Memorymode and am really pleased with it. I just wondered how they are producing these synths so quickly and cheaply. From what you say it seems its because they are good at what they do. And that's good enough for me. Thanks again Jim
I have owned a Jupiter-4 for almost 40 years and only sold it to some collector to buy me a Hammond organ. 40 years of Jupiter-4 sounds are a loooong time but since I have been recording a number of great songs with it in the 80s on a TEAC A-2340SX (4-channel tape recorder), the tape has been degraded over time and having copied it into digital format was obviously a bit late... so now I like to re-record my "old songs" and thank God I found the Mercury-4 in time to use the authentic sounds. I think purchasing the Mercury-4 doesn`t need to be considered carefully, it`s simply mindblowing how good it sounds compared to the original hardware. So I really was lucky to sell my beloved hardware Jupiter-4 for several thousand Euros and get a VSTi version with even more features for less than 30€ three or four years later. This is how happiness actually feels. :-) By the way, I also have the Eight-Voice Oberheim emulation by CherryAudio, which also knocks me off my shoes. To sum it up: both products strongly recommended. (/from Germany)
@@zxbryc funny thing, though, that Starsky Carr states that the Model 84 is indeed closer to the original but that the DCO 106 actually sounds "more usable" and thus better. That being said, the Mercury 4 is a pretty decent and fairly close emulation of the Jupiter 4 and you know what? A pretty decent and fairly close copy for a 100th of the price of the original is way way way better than "no copy".
Owning 3 Jupiter 4's in my lifetime, and all three sounding a little different, I can say that this is an excellent recreation! It has all the elements as heard in the video at around 20:08. Of course, it is not as alive as the Jupiter 4 but it is very very close, much much closer than Roland expansions or plugouts of their analog counterparts. Great video demo as always... thanks for posting!
Price of a night out! When did you last get out? Was it when you sold your Jupiter 4? Seriously though, these synths from Cherry Audio are superb value for money. Great review as ever.
I'm glad Cherry Audio have done this. The Jupiter 4 always sounded better than the Jupiter 8 to my ears, maybe something to do with those early Human League and Simple Minds records. If Behringer put out a clone, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
I think I might get this, seems like a good ballpark emulation and it sounds great. I understand your feelings on selling your Jupiter. As someone who sold their 808 in the 90s I can guarantee that I'm not in the least bit bitter and I absolutely do not torture myself over it every single day.
For me it was an 808 a 303 and SH101 and a Juno 60. Reluctant sales when prices were on the floor. And then the MC202 eventually refused to power up along with a bunch of other analog stuff. Like Chris Whitley sang... I forget you every day. I like how things in VI world are progressing now though, where you can begin to feel the voices as well as hear them, and Cherry Audio have found a new fan. I’m already loving their 106 and PS20. This stuff’s definitely workable in my hybrid world. And yeah the fun value alone is worth it.
The JP-4 is my dream synth (early Simple Minds). Hope that B can get round to it one day. Nice to see & hear what it's all about, not many guides about this beauty. Great demo! :)
Bought it for two reasons: 1. I tend to buy everything Cherry Audio make (confession time!), 2. That S&H feature coupled with a vintage soundscape gave me some ideas!
Cherry audio plugins are very musical. That’s incredibly hard to find with this emulations. And I have all of Arturia. There is just something different about Cherry audio.
I sold my 4 for about £350 in the 90’s (I did only pay £25 for it though!) but this seems to be pretty characteristic of how I remember mine sounding. I’m definitely getting it as I do miss my 4 quite often (except the weight of it!). It’s my favourite synth ever and for years seemed a great kept secret before they went wild on price. Great job!
I did the same - sold mine for 300 German Mark and it was the dumbest thing I ever did. Today I bought the Mercury 4 on the fly .. and it sounds like I remember my Jupiter 4 (and it has 16 Voices and unlimited store patches ;)) . Great work!
I’m always tempted with Cherry Audio, but I always already have some other emulation that I love for their synths. This is the first one in which I don’t have anything close to it, and I’ll probably check it out. Thanks for the walkthrough! Also, I love the new graphics for the channel: looking great, Starsky!!
Thanks. I’ve spent a few days thinking about the graphics and branding .. about one after all these years, but thought I was missing a trick. Nice you noticed .. it took ages 😂
In some ways better than having a J-4…this has 16 voice MPE with effects and no failing chips. Now, if someone made a hardware reissue of the original machine for a decent price, I would be all over that too.
Cherry Audio's "radio shack/moog" synth is pretty amazing and a great learning tool. Best of all, it's free, if you want to get used to their user interface. But the sounds are fantastic.
Something missed worth mentioning: According to manual “Another JP-4 quirk to be aware of is that the arpeggiator actually plays notes in the order you play them on the keyboard, but the Pattern setting then affects the order of the octaves that pattern moves in. (We know, it's kinda weird.)” So if it’s a chord played, then arp plays note order according to direction set but if notes are added individually, then octave is being set according to direction set. This make the arp really cool! 😎
Totally agree on the Jupiter 6, its the one ive waitied for from all developers for years, and its not coming anytime soon... off anyone including Roland..
£30 British pounds is a good price, IMO. Purists are always FFing moaning about this and that but this is a good synth and worth the outlay. I don't need another ancient synth emulation but if I can get a weekend's worth of fun out of it I've had my money's worth 👍
Good is an understatement compared with all other VST devs. Where 3 x as much is normal. Anyway, yeah at the very least a weekend of fun... and perhaps years worth of music.
Great review and pretty cool effort by Cherry Audio. I would ask respectfully if you could give us ample warning or maybe desist from ear blowing resonance sweeps such as around 32:40?
I think it sounds great, especially for the price. Nice tone, decent ergonomics, I'm sold. Prefer it to MemoryMode much more, which sounds a bit cold in comparison. Cheers for the video.
There are two good reasons why the FM worked better on the filter: 1. The oscillator was a sawtooth and the filter was a sine 2. The oscillator was far too low in pitch (16') I'm betting that setting the VCO to a square and 8' or 4' range would have produced much better results.
Nah… I tried a few settings - probably spent at least 10 minutes messing with it. Edited it out as it made for quite boring viewing obvs :) what you see here isn’t the complete test - just highlights of a fair few hours of putting it through it’s paces.
@@macronencer it’s a perfectly legit thing to think. I just have to keep things as succinct as I can while demoing what I’m talking about. I actually thought a few times about leaving a bit more in but it came across as a man obsessed by FM!
it would be great to have a secondary touch screen that would have the keyboard laying flat so it's more realistic instead of always fishing with the mouse pointer
Another great demo Starsky... That stepping tho 🤔 a pet hate of mine, I know its because of the 127 steps in midi, but...someone should overcome that with some clever programming these days. Sounds great though for the price.
Thanks… did the price you can’t knock it. I don’t know if I edited it out but I mentioned that holding command and moving the sliders gives super fine control when using the mouse :) every synth implements midi in a different way so it’s always hit and miss with each plugin tbh.
@@StarskyCarr yeah, you showed the mouse/command trick, but why can't they implement that without touching a mouse or keyboard? Or did I understand it wrong? Just get rid of stepping all together invisibly. Stepping = clunky to me lol 😂
@@muzikman2008 Its because you'd have to move your mouse about 2 metres to get the full range ... I'd need a bigger desk and much longer arms - but I think it'd just be far too sensitive if you tried to implement fine control in a small space.. but who knows. Not me that's for sure! :)
@@muzikman2008 FWIW, the computer processing inside the original JP-4 is so underpowered, the sliders have a whopping 32 steps of resolution (at least the ones in the "programmable" section). I believe that'd be five-bits of resolution (I'm not the expert on this aspect), so analog is actually far worse in this case. I actually pitched the idea of making it "authentic" but my compatriots immediately shot me down!
I had the original for many years in the 90s. From what I remember, the envelopes of the original sounded snappier. The filters were much punchier. The overall impression is there, but it just reminds me. In this case, for 39$ you get what you pay for. I've sold the Jupiter-4 in 2002, because it was often defect and very unreliable. A point for the Mercury-4.
I f you’ve seen any of my other CA videos you’ll have seen how they’re close, but not identical. They get a good overall feel but the last few % is missing. I guess it’s the 80/20 rule… and fir most the 80 is good enough for 20% the price :)
You can't fault cherry audio for price, but I have to admit I've not been impressed with their recent offerings like the memorymode and 8 voice as a lot of their synth plugins sound very much the same. But have been trying demo version of their Mercury 4 and very much like it.
Yeah but it’s sample based (nothing wrong with that - it’s just different to a virtual emulation). So on a laptop with SSD hard drive like my MacBook Pro you want to limit the amount of disk space the apps use. Also do you have to buy j to the whole UVI system or can you just buy the JP4?
@@StarskyCarr yep you have to get the whole JP Legacy thing unfortunately - so the Saturn/Jupiter 4, 6 and 8 and the “Mercury 80” aka the MKS-80 (the MKS is what I wanted to be honest as I haven’t seen it emulated anywhere else yet, and it gives my real MKS a break). JP legacy is $200 but I got it with Vintage Vault 3 and obviously can be used with free workstation or Falcon. I got this and pretty much all the Cherry Audio synths and they do sound great, look great and are fun, but I sometimes fall back to the UVI stuff because it doesn’t overload the CPU as much, and I just run those libraries off an external SSD over thunderbolt and loads well. Same situation with my Komplete libraries too. Only thing I don’t like so much with the UVI stuff is they tend to overload presets with effects like Thorus and you end up immediately turning them off, but they’ve got better with that lately, especially with the new emulation ii+.
Yeah… dirty! 😂 As I said it’s not an exacting emulation like the UAD version but it gives the overall feel so wasn’t listening too carefully to what it was doing. I’d have to go back and listen more carefully to exactly why it sounded dirty (I’m not against digital artifacts when adding grit tbh, but yeah they’re not the same or warm as analog distortion).
Hey David... Mitchell from Cherry. I spent a fairly stupid amount of time getting that dialed correctly against my real Jupiter-4 - when they get that fast, it's kind of a garbled crossmod mess, but you can definitely hear the match when you get it right. The original has the normal storable LFO rate slider, plus it has that silly "bender" control that lets you add or subtract on top of it, so we put the entire range of both combined controls on the single LFO slider (hencethe NORM/WIDE switch). When you get into crossmod like that, it's next to impossible to make it sound exactly the same in an audio environment running at normal sample rates, but the LFO speeds are most definitely correct. (Honestly, we don't lose too much sleep over it, because the only sound one makes that way is laser farts, which are cool, but I'm sure you see what I'm saying :) )
@@davidryle For sure. We understand that people are going to have opinions, and that's totally cool, but we put a lot of work into getting the details right (and sometimes I take it personally :P).
@@celebutante don’t worry Mitchell. People loooove to mouth off about this shit. Plugin sounds amazing. I’ve been using it loads in the last few months on recordings. Keep it up!
Bought it. It's about worth the cheap price, and seems kind of bland as synths go. It only has one oscillator. The free Radio Shack synth is much better than this.
Check out all my Cherry Audio playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLWo-iS-wwHXEjf-Hir63AWPiLPkCLQFLS.html
DCO106 ua-cam.com/video/z2S0a005Pu0/v-deo.html
Memory Mode ua-cam.com/video/OVsNb9kb7Zk/v-deo.html
CA 2600 ua-cam.com/video/TcKFWlHoeLA/v-deo.html
PS-20 ua-cam.com/video/k9-JQWgYkT4/v-deo.html
The question I would really like to ask is, are all these Cherry Audio synths genuinely new synths or are they basically the same engine software repackaged. If anyone could answer this question it would be you. Really appreciate your expertise on all you vids. Thanks
Jim
@@Jimkirkwood24 They're definitely not the same engine repackaged. I imagine they must re-use some code in each (I would think all do tbh) but things like the filters appear to be genuinely different in each - or at least tweaked to give different responses etc. The PS20 filter for example is very different to this, and the DCO 106 was different again etc. I think a lot of the fun of these though is playing with the same limitations and routings as the vintage synths.. to get similar (if not always identical) tones.
Thank you for taking the time and patience to reply. Really appreciate that. I have the Memorymode and am really pleased with it. I just wondered how they are producing these synths so quickly and cheaply. From what you say it seems its because they are good at what they do. And that's good enough for me.
Thanks again
Jim
Thank you for the tutorial. Just got the synth and it sounds great.
I have owned a Jupiter-4 for almost 40 years and only sold it to some collector to buy me a Hammond organ. 40 years of Jupiter-4 sounds are a loooong time but since I have been recording a number of great songs with it in the 80s on a TEAC A-2340SX (4-channel tape recorder), the tape has been degraded over time and having copied it into digital format was obviously a bit late... so now I like to re-record my "old songs" and thank God I found the Mercury-4 in time to use the authentic sounds. I think purchasing the Mercury-4 doesn`t need to be considered carefully, it`s simply mindblowing how good it sounds compared to the original hardware. So I really was lucky to sell my beloved hardware Jupiter-4 for several thousand Euros and get a VSTi version with even more features for less than 30€ three or four years later. This is how happiness actually feels. :-)
By the way, I also have the Eight-Voice Oberheim emulation by CherryAudio, which also knocks me off my shoes. To sum it up: both products strongly recommended. (/from Germany)
@@zxbryc funny thing, though, that Starsky Carr states that the Model 84 is indeed closer to the original but that the DCO 106 actually sounds "more usable" and thus better. That being said, the Mercury 4 is a pretty decent and fairly close emulation of the Jupiter 4 and you know what? A pretty decent and fairly close copy for a 100th of the price of the original is way way way better than "no copy".
Owning 3 Jupiter 4's in my lifetime, and all three sounding a little different, I can say that this is an excellent recreation! It has all the elements as heard in the video at around 20:08. Of course, it is not as alive as the Jupiter 4 but it is very very close, much much closer than Roland expansions or plugouts of their analog counterparts. Great video demo as always... thanks for posting!
ive become obsessed with anything cherry audio brings out
Price of a night out! When did you last get out? Was it when you sold your Jupiter 4? Seriously though, these synths from Cherry Audio are superb value for money. Great review as ever.
I'm a cheap date... what can I say :)
I'm glad Cherry Audio have done this. The Jupiter 4 always sounded better than the Jupiter 8 to my ears, maybe something to do with those early Human League and Simple Minds records. If Behringer put out a clone, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Finger crossed 😂
You're absolutely right - Mick McNeil's amazing JP4 sounds are all over those early Simple Minds albums, so evocative.
I think I might get this, seems like a good ballpark emulation and it sounds great. I understand your feelings on selling your Jupiter. As someone who sold their 808 in the 90s I can guarantee that I'm not in the least bit bitter and I absolutely do not torture myself over it every single day.
Not bitter in the least… not at all 😂
For me it was an 808 a 303 and SH101 and a Juno 60. Reluctant sales when prices were on the floor. And then the MC202 eventually refused to power up along with a bunch of other analog stuff. Like Chris Whitley sang... I forget you every day. I like how things in VI world are progressing now though, where you can begin to feel the voices as well as hear them, and Cherry Audio have found a new fan. I’m already loving their 106 and PS20. This stuff’s definitely workable in my hybrid world. And yeah the fun value alone is worth it.
I downloaded the demo for this synth, and after playing with it a bit, I've grown to really like it.
I always see Cherry Audio on my feed but I didn't know they sound THIS good. Wow!
The JP-4 is my dream synth (early Simple Minds). Hope that B can get round to it one day. Nice to see & hear what it's all about, not many guides about this beauty. Great demo! :)
ua-cam.com/video/3bhXIxIbMDo/v-deo.html
Do not wait. Save money and go for it. You won't reget it.
This emulation is sensational - instant Empires & Dance / Sons & Fascination / Sister Feelings Call
Bought it for two reasons: 1. I tend to buy everything Cherry Audio make (confession time!), 2. That S&H feature coupled with a vintage soundscape gave me some ideas!
Its easy to buy everything.. :) I've got most of the synths now.
Sounds great! I kind of feel that Cherry Audio is somewhat underrated.
Very nice - instant Human League (before phil and the girls - although it does crop up on Dare)
Factory 01 plus arpeggio = Dreams of Leaving
Sounds brutal. I get Promars and SH-2 feels.
Cherry audio plugins are very musical. That’s incredibly hard to find with this emulations. And I have all of Arturia. There is just something different about Cherry audio.
its lot sweeter sound and hence why they call them self cheery audio
all of Arturia? what does this mean ?
I sold my 4 for about £350 in the 90’s (I did only pay £25 for it though!) but this seems to be pretty characteristic of how I remember mine sounding. I’m definitely getting it as I do miss my 4 quite often (except the weight of it!). It’s my favourite synth ever and for years seemed a great kept secret before they went wild on price. Great job!
I did the same - sold mine for 300 German Mark and it was the dumbest thing I ever did. Today I bought the Mercury 4 on the fly .. and it sounds like I remember my Jupiter 4 (and it has 16 Voices and unlimited store patches ;)) . Great work!
I’m always tempted with Cherry Audio, but I always already have some other emulation that I love for their synths. This is the first one in which I don’t have anything close to it, and I’ll probably check it out. Thanks for the walkthrough! Also, I love the new graphics for the channel: looking great, Starsky!!
Thanks. I’ve spent a few days thinking about the graphics and branding .. about one after all these years, but thought I was missing a trick. Nice you noticed .. it took ages 😂
Human League Seconds using the unison mode - a missed opportunity for a copyright strike :-). Sounds nice. Thanks for the review...tempted.
I’ll try harder next time for the copyright strike! 😂 must do better 😀
I did the entire "Darkness" song as a demo for the product page, so we'll see who really gets nailed! :P cherryaudio.com/instruments/mercury-4
@@CherryAudiovst You did a really great job on that one, btw. good job!
Am I tripping?Or is Cherry Audio the most dopest plugins.They need to make some merch like trucker caps,coffee mugs,iron on patches,stickers etc.🤖♥️📼
In some ways better than having a J-4…this has 16 voice MPE with effects and no failing chips. Now, if someone made a hardware reissue of the original machine for a decent price, I would be all over that too.
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Cherry Audio's "radio shack/moog" synth is pretty amazing and a great learning tool. Best of all, it's free, if you want to get used to their user interface. But the sounds are fantastic.
Yeah… it’s great especially FOR FREE 😀
Great review Starsky. Very helpful, and a fair shakedown all round. Consider yourself subscribed to!
Much appreciated!
everything cherry audio does is class. their eight voice and 106 plugins are so good that this is an insta purchase for me.
Something missed worth mentioning: According to manual “Another JP-4 quirk to be aware of is that the arpeggiator actually plays notes in the order you play them on the keyboard, but the Pattern setting then affects the order of the octaves that pattern moves in. (We know, it's kinda weird.)” So if it’s a chord played, then arp plays note order according to direction set but if notes are added individually, then octave is being set according to direction set. This make the arp really cool! 😎
Nice thanks 😀
Love that Roland echo
Wow it really sounds "in your face". I like that!
Totally agree on the Jupiter 6, its the one ive waitied for from all developers for years, and its not coming anytime soon... off anyone including Roland..
I got it and I love it!
£30 British pounds is a good price, IMO. Purists are always FFing moaning about this and that but this is a good synth and worth the outlay. I don't need another ancient synth emulation but if I can get a weekend's worth of fun out of it I've had my money's worth 👍
Good is an understatement compared with all other VST devs. Where 3 x as much is normal. Anyway, yeah at the very least a weekend of fun... and perhaps years worth of music.
Great review and pretty cool effort by Cherry Audio. I would ask respectfully if you could give us ample warning or maybe desist from ear blowing resonance sweeps such as around 32:40?
Oops sorry about that
love the intro tune
I think it sounds great, especially for the price. Nice tone, decent ergonomics, I'm sold. Prefer it to MemoryMode much more, which sounds a bit cold in comparison. Cheers for the video.
Nice run-down, great job. I thought the pad sounds were pretty sweet and the echo was quite nice.
There are two good reasons why the FM worked better on the filter:
1. The oscillator was a sawtooth and the filter was a sine
2. The oscillator was far too low in pitch (16')
I'm betting that setting the VCO to a square and 8' or 4' range would have produced much better results.
Nah… I tried a few settings - probably spent at least 10 minutes messing with it. Edited it out as it made for quite boring viewing obvs :) what you see here isn’t the complete test - just highlights of a fair few hours of putting it through it’s paces.
@@StarskyCarr Fair enough, I stand corrected then!
@@macronencer it’s a perfectly legit thing to think. I just have to keep things as succinct as I can while demoing what I’m talking about. I actually thought a few times about leaving a bit more in but it came across as a man obsessed by FM!
@@StarskyCarr Nothing wrong with an FM obsession... I love my OpSix :)
"Im getting lovely sm.... I'm getting lovely.... I'm getting lovely smooth modulation" :D. Hahaha. Forget to edit out the misspeaks ma dude? Seems like something I'd do.
Haha I do it all over .. I do… I do it … I do it all over the place. !!
@@StarskyCarr hahaha. Its good to have a bit of analogue chaos when living in a digital world. :D.
Real deal expensive?! Here in Norway we have to x 10 -12.... cool video!
This sounds very close to the OG. Not spot on but the character is there. No doubt. Nice job by Cherry Audio.
Shit! Those filters and effects got me! I love this.
Uvi Jp legacy has a Jupiter 4 emulation
I’ve seen that but it’s sample based and I think you have to buy jnto the whole UVI thing… I could be wrong though?
It's not a real emulation. Just samples.
Best bass in town.
it would be great to have a secondary touch screen that would have the keyboard laying flat so it's more realistic instead of always fishing with the mouse pointer
Tritons are rising ;) Maybe synths are a good inflation hedge :)
Mercury has more appealing flavor IMO and for the price difference plus no mucking about with cloud sheet, it's a no brainer. I'll get the Mercury.
The cloud can be infuriating at times!
Part exchanged my Jupiter 4 for a Kawai K4R :( .... muppet. Worth a punt at that price for the memories!
I feel your pain 🤦♂️
Why dont companies create a cs-80 vst at this quality? They go for 50,000.00 on reverb. If ever we needed a brilliant emulation of that
Arturia have one.
If you are looking for a cs-80 emulation. I suggest you try out Arminator and Arminator 2 by krakli plugins. Both are free.
There's also the Memorymoon ME80.
@@ComputingSound Fair point, i forgot about that one, time to download and give it another try
OK This is nuts.
Another great demo Starsky... That stepping tho 🤔 a pet hate of mine, I know its because of the 127 steps in midi, but...someone should overcome that with some clever programming these days. Sounds great though for the price.
Thanks… did the price you can’t knock it. I don’t know if I edited it out but I mentioned that holding command and moving the sliders gives super fine control when using the mouse :) every synth implements midi in a different way so it’s always hit and miss with each plugin tbh.
@@StarskyCarr yeah, you showed the mouse/command trick, but why can't they implement that without touching a mouse or keyboard? Or did I understand it wrong? Just get rid of stepping all together invisibly. Stepping = clunky to me lol 😂
@@muzikman2008 Its because you'd have to move your mouse about 2 metres to get the full range ... I'd need a bigger desk and much longer arms - but I think it'd just be far too sensitive if you tried to implement fine control in a small space.. but who knows. Not me that's for sure! :)
@@StarskyCarr Yeah that makes sense, another reason analogue is better...lol.
@@muzikman2008 FWIW, the computer processing inside the original JP-4 is so underpowered, the sliders have a whopping 32 steps of resolution (at least the ones in the "programmable" section). I believe that'd be five-bits of resolution (I'm not the expert on this aspect), so analog is actually far worse in this case. I actually pitched the idea of making it "authentic" but my compatriots immediately shot me down!
I had the original for many years in the 90s. From what I remember, the envelopes of the original sounded snappier. The filters were much punchier. The overall impression is there, but it just reminds me. In this case, for 39$ you get what you pay for. I've sold the Jupiter-4 in 2002, because it was often defect and very unreliable. A point for the Mercury-4.
I f you’ve seen any of my other CA videos you’ll have seen how they’re close, but not identical. They get a good overall feel but the last few % is missing. I guess it’s the 80/20 rule… and fir most the 80 is good enough for 20% the price :)
Cool ! Jupiter-6 t's other synth ?
£34 - the price of a night out. In Halifax.
You can't fault cherry audio for price, but I have to admit I've not been impressed with their recent offerings like the memorymode and 8 voice as a lot of their synth plugins sound very much the same. But have been trying demo version of their Mercury 4 and very much like it.
Nice review cheers! Btw UVI have a Jupiter 4 emulator too, the Saturn 4 as part of JP legacy.
Yeah but it’s sample based (nothing wrong with that - it’s just different to a virtual emulation). So on a laptop with SSD hard drive like my MacBook Pro you want to limit the amount of disk space the apps use. Also do you have to buy j to the whole UVI system or can you just buy the JP4?
@@StarskyCarr yep you have to get the whole JP Legacy thing unfortunately - so the Saturn/Jupiter 4, 6 and 8 and the “Mercury 80” aka the MKS-80 (the MKS is what I wanted to be honest as I haven’t seen it emulated anywhere else yet, and it gives my real MKS a break). JP legacy is $200 but I got it with Vintage Vault 3 and obviously can be used with free workstation or Falcon. I got this and pretty much all the Cherry Audio synths and they do sound great, look great and are fun, but I sometimes fall back to the UVI stuff because it doesn’t overload the CPU as much, and I just run those libraries off an external SSD over thunderbolt and loads well. Same situation with my Komplete libraries too. Only thing I don’t like so much with the UVI stuff is they tend to overload presets with effects like Thorus and you end up immediately turning them off, but they’ve got better with that lately, especially with the new emulation ii+.
At 28:00 to my ears, the delay was aliasing hard or sounded like low sampling frequency.
Any comment on that?
Yeah… dirty! 😂 As I said it’s not an exacting emulation like the UAD version but it gives the overall feel so wasn’t listening too carefully to what it was doing. I’d have to go back and listen more carefully to exactly why it sounded dirty (I’m not against digital artifacts when adding grit tbh, but yeah they’re not the same or warm as analog distortion).
@@StarskyCarr Fair enough. 😄
Bojack Horseman theme increasing!
Is this an actual VST-instrument or a rack within Cherry Audio ?
It's a VST instrument
@@alexkoziaris6664 Thank you 😉👍
Thanks for the demo. Here is the real thing: Jupiter 4 playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLDxv3idGvfbZQFF9MvoMes2Qpui-6s9ao.html
great plugins should be sold with a hardware case and either with or without keys, we could name them digital synths or something .....
Haha… yes could you imagine. It would be like a VST in a box 🤔
JP-4 have on of the best filters i ever heard, that vst is nice, but it is so far away from original.
The LFO is not even close to how fast the OG JP4 was
Hey David... Mitchell from Cherry. I spent a fairly stupid amount of time getting that dialed correctly against my real Jupiter-4 - when they get that fast, it's kind of a garbled crossmod mess, but you can definitely hear the match when you get it right. The original has the normal storable LFO rate slider, plus it has that silly "bender" control that lets you add or subtract on top of it, so we put the entire range of both combined controls on the single LFO slider (hencethe NORM/WIDE switch). When you get into crossmod like that, it's next to impossible to make it sound exactly the same in an audio environment running at normal sample rates, but the LFO speeds are most definitely correct. (Honestly, we don't lose too much sleep over it, because the only sound one makes that way is laser farts, which are cool, but I'm sure you see what I'm saying :) )
@@celebutante good point. I can't compare for myself as I don't own the QG. Thanks for the investigative work and opinion.
@@davidryle For sure. We understand that people are going to have opinions, and that's totally cool, but we put a lot of work into getting the details right (and sometimes I take it personally :P).
@@celebutante don’t worry Mitchell. People loooove to mouth off about this shit. Plugin sounds amazing. I’ve been using it loads in the last few months on recordings. Keep it up!
Thanks, appreciate it. It's all good, and the guy was cool in the end.
:)
Nice synth btw.. I've had a brief cavort with it. Very Pet Shop Boys once you let rip with the arp and synced S/H
That is "real" FM - as opposed to the Yamaha Phase Modulation style FM - so it is rough and ugly. Call it a flavor, not a feature.
Bought it. It's about worth the cheap price, and seems kind of bland as synths go. It only has one oscillator. The free Radio Shack synth is much better than this.
Promars sounds 100 times better to my ears. I guess with Cherry Audio you get what you pay for.
I went ahead and measured it, and it turns out it is in fact 103.6 times better. Objectively.
@@TemmeSikkema Noice!
You do get what you pay for: a great sounding synth for chump change.