"Fixing" High Memory Temps On My Dell RTX 3080...
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- Опубліковано 30 гру 2022
- I try and reduce the high memory temps on the RTX 3080 I salvaged from an Alienware system with a couple of very high skill mods.
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Only Dawid can make a video where literally nothing changes by the end, yet I’m not even mad. The experience was worth it 😁👌
not only that, but the non-problem continues to be a non-problem.
well it is Dell, why or how could things even change xD
Only Dawid can find non existent problem and create a solution only to fail it miserably 😂
@@user-rn9bo8io1e Maybe I missed that part. The end said it’s the same, I probably misunderstood haha still worth watching anyway 🤷♂️
@@brando3342 bruh did you just skip the video to the last 20 seconds lmao
I love the fact that both of us are still strugelling with rtx 3080 high temps!
I bought a turbo edition 3080 from gigabytes, I tried AIO cooling with kraken g12 but memory temps were not good, So i just gave up and fixed it by replacing thermal pads and paste, And definitly undervolting
Found your channel about 3 days ago and have been binge watching ever since. How did I miss this honest tech channel for so long? Great stuff.
This is kinda what I did about a year ago! And I do not miss a vid ever since!
Click the bell and enjoy 😎
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@@t3amb4sh I keep telling myself "just one more" and then its 3 hours later.
I love the silly random videos like this! Your channel is unique and amazing!
There is nothing better than seeing how Dawid squeezes the WORST tech to its limit!
6:22 "It's not a huge difference but not everything has to make a massive difference it's progress!"
I hope you guys remember this for all your new years resolutions and understand that no matter how small the progress is, as long as you keep improving yourself it's enough.
and to be perfectly honest... for the tiny bit of effort, and tiny bit of thermal paste.. 8C is a pretty huge bonus. In the realm of Gpu/Cpu thermals and such thats pretty damn good.
We just have keep moving forward...
accepting mediocrity is still mediocre, even if you're ok with it
These types of videos are the reason I love Dawid so much. They are entertaining. We also might learn something at the same time.
But! We also might'nt!
This is crazy coincidence! I just bought one of these cards a couple of days ago and was looking into if it was possible to get better temps only a couple of hours before you uploaded this! Safe to say I'm just going to boost the fan speeds and leave it at that after this madness 🤣
XD well you can do the thermal paste thing, cause you don't need to take the back-plate or the vrm/memory heatsink off for that.
Undervolt it. I dropped 12c on my 3070 with 60-80w less power draw!
Do the thermal paste thing
Thermal paste brings the best results. Memory junction and hotspot went down 98C to 84C at peak.
Only thing that really pisses me off is fan noise. When it gets high rpm is noisy af and i can't stand that. Still looking for a solution (deshrouding didn't work)
@@liberteus undervolt it.
I did something weird but it kinda worked for me, But it was not a great idea
I bought some aluminum waterblocks from aliexpress and ziptie them to the front and the back of gpu and made a watercooling loop, The temps droped by 10C but it was not worth it
So i guess the best way to cool it is to get a gpu waterblock
Hi Dawid! I've been bingewatching your content ever since I saw your Wish computer build! I just wanted to say thanks for giving me the courage and inspiration to finally build my own PC. You took what seemed so complicated to me and made it simple. I even got it to boot first try! I'm looking forward to more of your awesome content!
same i found him 2 days before my pc build almost a year ago
COPPER SHIMMMMMMMM
(between cooler and plate)
Definitely the way to go. I did this on an old Nvidia Ion powered netbook many moons ago and the difference of 0.2mm between the shims I tested made several degrees difference. Plus you can thermal paste the shim in to the right position and clean up the residue. Mounting pressure should keep it in place
Not a bad idea at all if you can get your hands on the stuff and/or are crafty enough to make it
This 100% you can find them on Amazon and I still have some. Copper Shims do work in the right circumstances.
Considering how hot we see this type of memory (sometimes pushing upwards of 106c..) Down in the mid 90s at stock is pretty good and getting it to the mid 80s with the added thermal paste is stellar. Good job Dawid.
by far the most entertaining person on youtube. honestly your videos make my day
I was hoping so much from that little heatsink. 😄
For context, I repadded my 3090 Eagle, stuck 8 heatsinks in the back, had a fan exhausting from the open bracket area (angled mount), my H500M case has superb front to back airflow and the VRAM temp was exactly 86c as in your case.
Found out about you from your talk on Broken Silicon and am glad because this is my favorite kind of tech content. Self proclaimed letting the other channels to the serious stuff and instead exploring the "kinda stupid" things you can play around with is great. Saying "mount" is a bit of a grandiose term had me cracking up, that's exactly the kind of caveat I need to add to descriptions of all my projects.
my boy doing gods work
Wasn't putting a fan on the back of thr gpu a decent idea for the 3090 since it also had ram chips on thr back?
I am always amazed how quickly your videos come to an end.
LOL what a video, for some reason my mind knew that zip tie air cooler wasnt going to do shit, but my heart wanted it so bad. Dawid, happy new year, excited to watch your channel grow in 2023!
Happy New Year Dawid & Anna!!!!
I love how you left enough of the cut zip tie end to make sure the wounds it inflicts are as deep as possible.
Happy new year Dawid!
Thanks, Happy New year!!! my favorite U-tube channel!
Correct me if I'm wrong the little heatsink he used didn't do anything because he removed the thermals between the backplate and gpu.
yeah. i think he never changed that thermal pad that he destroyed. but not sure if he removed that backplate thermal pad.
Big D., I'm SOOOOOO glad you do all of this crazy crap so I don't have to. Happy New Year to you and to all...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it only me that wants a cooler like this in retail gpus as well? I mean it does not have a million rgbs on or useless crap like "game on" written all over it. And nice temps too.
It has a bright white GEFORCE RTX light but you can unplug it like I did.
@@pf100andahalf
Well, that isn't exactly RGB to begin with, compared to everything else
Happy new year, Dawid!
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I'm actually so glad you made this video. Recently I've been wondering how much of a difference slapping a CPU stock cooler onto the backplate of a GPU would make to its cooling. And now I've learned that it does absolutely nothing! Good to know.
I think the issue is thermal transfer between the PCB and backplate, as well as the lack of mounting pressure between the cooler and the backplate.
I think something like the Razer Peltier phone cooler with some Honeywell PTM7950 would work really well.
@@matasa7463 I know at least for my GPU the backplate gets REALLY hot under load, so at least for some the thermal transfer isn’t an issue. This also makes sense, because shining a flashlight between the PCB and backplate reveals a sizable thermal pad. More likely the issue is mounting pressure, since there’s only so much one can do to apply pressure when it wasn’t intended.
I love your videos and to be honest you are my favorite UA-camr. Wish you a happy new year !
what are you using to display the CPU and GPU Temp and Power Utilization?
how thick the thermalpad u use for the memory chip?
Those in-game stats at 02:50 and 06:02 are they game specific or how does one render them? Are they part of GPU-Z or MSI AfterBurner etc?
msi afterburner
Next time try to put the back cooler on the rear side where that memory heat pipe is and its better to use a full flat one like in old gpus instead of your with a center puck.. anyway always fun to watch these experiments
today we are going to poke some of it's holes🤣😂🤣
Glad to see, I mean hear, that the pronunciation of "tiddy-80" is back, it's gonna be a good year 😉
Aaaaand if I ever tried to disassemble a tiddy-series card (did once to a GTX 970 and all was fine) I'd be sweating thermal paste... I mean everything I've read states that if you rip the factory thermal pads and need to replace, they need to be the exact same thickness etc... I'd get it ALL WRONG, temps would soar and I'd brick my card 🤣
you probably needed more thermal paste. But you should really just get some 0.5 or 0.2mm thermal pads as they will much better spread pressure. I would also advise on better thermal pads between back of the board and backplate, but you'll have a harder time finding over 2mm pads than the 0.2mm, as that looks like 2.5mm or more (you can always stack them). My EVGA 3080 XC3 benefitted a lot from the most basic pads stacked on top of each other (it had none from factory), and its backplate doesn't even have a heat pipe like this card does.
I have one of these and I love it. Many people think OEM always suck, but honestly this design is pretty cool.
an interesting video to watch before the upcoming new year
also, happy new year chat
Can there be one more test where the fan on the janktastic heatsink is the other way round? Just curious as its in the path on the exhaust from the CPU cooler.
Keep doing another experiment 😂
That's why I subscribed this channel
I saw a page where you can buy copper plates as a replacement for thermal pads on the memory chips. This brings Temps down from like 90°c to around 60°c.
citation for a 30oC reduction or bs.
@@BenState no i saw a proof of the concept but used on a strix model where the cooler directly touches the thermal pads. it´s legit
I've seen this before. While it reduces temps on the memory, the shims are so effective at transferring heat into the heatsink that it unintentionally also increases the heat of the gpu directly as the heatsink is already saturated from the memory. Not saying it's not effective but it's not a clean reduction of 30 degrees as mentioned
I bought a HSF designed for backplate cooling for my 3090 and it definitely made a difference. I can see why it wouldn't make a big difference for a 3080 due to the lack of rear memory chips. Regardless, it's crazy how hot the backplate can get, even with the HSF added.
I wish I knew these existed a year back. I used to simply put a fan ontop of my 3090 in the "pull" position and this kept the memory temps from going over 88 when I was mining with it. It was an NZXT fan meant for a radiator.
Haha good memories putting thermal paste onto 4 old heatsinks (2 cpu ones and 2 motherboard little ones) I had kicking around and putting them on the backplate of my 3080 which I'd swapped thermal pads on. Great video!
I have one of these cards and if you undervolt it, flash the latest bios from dell which fixes the fan curve, and do the "thermal paste on the vram plate" trick to lower vram temps, it's as good as any other 3080. It's a real 3080 that's built like a tank and it's good.
It's content like this that made me subscribe, sure some of the videos may not fix issues but they are fun to watch
@Dawid hey all you have to do is get a normal fan and put it over the back where the capacitors are and have it blow into it I was able to mine on my 3090 is a closed case cuz of doing that and I tried heatsinks but the fan being sooo close to the capacitors and the back memory it worked great but with a Dell 3080 is there memory on the back also? If so I would just get a 1800ish rpm fan and have it match go with your case fans like since I use Corsair fans they arent loud I just use a fan hub to keep all my case fans together and I keep them at 100% but I’m also used to fan noise which is crazy how people care soo much about noise cuz once you turn the game on you aren’t gonna hear it unless you are playing with the sound at nothing but why would someone do that? I take performance over quiet any day of the week
I tried zip tying a cooler to a cpu before. It's pretty much impossible to get enough tension on them.
I don't know if you can trim them to size without boogering them up completely, but what about those graphite thermal pad thingies that some people are using on their CPUs?
What memory temp are normal? my 2070 super with +900 on memory heats up to 86°C and 84-85 without overclock, core temp is 70°C is this temps good?
is it better to use thermal pads that are a bit thin instead of that thermal paste you did? ngl it looks okay but i think the pads will cover more and make less of a mess. but that is very intresting result.
Lol this is why i watch this channel to see goofy ass mods like this, keep up the good work Dawid.
This is some quality Dawid content.
Was there actually a before test done before the first strip down?
These are all things we need to know! At least someone with a camera tried it.
I haven't finished watching, but I will say that K5 PRO would be a great substitute for thermal pads in a case like this. Consider something like that in the future. Works great for my GPU and motherboard water blocks.
i was thinking the same thing. K5 Pro, but its pretty messy and difficult to remove when its time to do GPU maintenance.
Yeah... Linus also made a video about it...i think
@@abhinavkumar4063 Yep I only found out about it because of Alex's video on LTT. It convinced me to give it a shot, and I've been pleased with the sustained performance of it so far. Messy? Sure, but I don't mind a little bit of mess.
Instead of putting the thermal paste on the heatsink and putting it on, its better to put thermal paste on the individual VRMs and then let the cooler spread it out, much like you would on a CPU.
I had to do the same on my MSI laptop. For some reason they used a thermal compound instead of thermal pads so I didn't know which height thermal pads I had to use. So I just put a spot of thermal paste on each and whacked the cooler on. Its only reeeaally good.
Thermal paste will dry soon ,that is exactly motive to put good thermal pads over memory gpus!
@@riannair7101 Not really, it'll take roughly the same time to dry out as the CPU/GPU's thermal paste to dry out which means by the time I repaste it doesn't matter much. Its just a bit longer cleaning.
@@ADunleavy if contact pressure between thermal paste and radiators are poor (that is be the case) guess what is happen...Fast Dry , is like you leave thermal paste on direct contact with air. You dont need faculty to observe that!😉😉
@@riannair7101 I literally opened it a couple of days ago and its completely fine. I repasted 2 years ago. So no, its not a fucking issue.
@@ADunleavy Depends with what thermal paste you use (type gel thermal paste is more resiliant to dry in contact with air than one (thick) with very high viscosity(thermal grizzly kryonaut for example).
BTW not need be mad for entire Earth not gravitate around you !😁
The guy could make a video about putting thermal paste on his shoe laces, I'd still watch. He's just a fun watch, always.
I was searching this last night out of interest and now this spooky
Amazing what a little thermal paste in the right place can do.
Happy new year's from Oz everyone
can agree
Fellow Aussies
Another awesomesauce video Dawid!!
Your 30 MMinutes later slides had me keep thinking they referred to the thickness of the thermal putty.
Doesn't matter, I honestly thought the last heat sink would have worked after an hour or gameplay. It would have time to transfer into that hunk of metal.
What if you just mounted 25MM thick fans to that backplate? Maybe see a heat reduction.
I've seen other fan mods for the backplate and nothing helps the backplate temps. As long as the core and vram temps are good that's all that matters anyway. Just don't touch it while gaming.
@@pf100andahalf But wait, maybe if I get my mouth close and blow.... DAMN!!!
"Going to do extreme cooling to bring the temps down" 30 mins latah "and the results are exactly the same. Well thanks for watching" LMAO love it Dawid
LOL I love how, at approx 6:05, you said "subjectively" while almost simultaneously on the screen (in game) it said "OBJECTIVE E TAKEN". It's like the game is arguing with you that you're not being subjective!
Dawid,
You should have let the old thermal past dry out, chopped it up and snorted it for a more "chill" experience. Dell is the the most "slap happy" applicant of viable products on the market. I say this as an owner of various Dell "products" (aka: trash) that are still reviewed as "great".
YOU are are a champion of hope! A beacon (not bacon) of reality of what is and what is not. As opposed to alternate realities IRL.
For that virtue, I wish you the best of Holiday Seasons and Happy New Year.
If I'm not mistaken those Dell and Acer RTX 3080s are a slightly modified Zotac design. Mine is from an Acer prebuilt Predator desktop and has this same issue and the thermal paste between the frame and the vapor chamber indeed helped a lot.
The thermal pad replacement that you could use is the Upsiren U6 pro, it's a thermal putty that can be reused and be molded like clay. So you'll need to do the pressure test onto the vram chips directly first to see if it makes contact for all vrams, then apply another thinner layer above the plate where you applied thermal compound with. Once both of them have contact, what you'll use next is KPX onto the gpu die. You can over compensate the gpu die by applying all over it either 0.5mm or 1mm in thickness to ensure that any kind of airgaps will be filled out and will help out maximizing the heat transfer for both the vrams and gpu die.
*don't do the guides with copper shims, it's kinda a risky mod to do since it may damage the solder balls (it may crack, cause bridges/shorts, ripped pads etc) under the vrams if excessive pressure is applied onto it with the wrong thickness of the copper shim. As for the thermal putty it's a safer alternative as it will spread/stretch if excessive pressure is applied onto it.
What you can also do is to apply kapton tape or Scotch Super 33+ electrical tape onto the capacitors surrounding the GPU die so that the capacitors won't be in contact with KPX incase that it spills over if too much is applied and less hassle for cleanups.
I have not yet seen the video. I just want to say that you are absolutely ridiculous and I love you for it. Very excited to see how you will adjust to the new YT policy on swearing. I am confident you will come up with a very Dawidian way to circumvent it. Happy new year to you.
I was really hoping the heatsink fan on the backplate was going to work. I've been looking for a use for a few random aluminum ryzen coolers I have laying around
I cool back plates too, only I just point a 140mm fan at it, works great
I kept watching dawid contents and learn nothing but I do love them
That smoothness you were talking about is probably the blessing of GamersNexus Steve (aka Tech Jesus) coming down upon you for improving a Dell product. ;)
I just love your videos! And while those temp differences may not have been huge I would call that a success in the end.
i got a Acer Predator RTX 3080, will it be ok still if i don't touch it and just apply thermal once a year or two?
ive been watching your videos for about 2 months now...great work. your inclusion of anna is wonderful! anyways i got out of the pc game after the intel i5 6 series and am thinking of getting back into it. the amd series nomenclature has me stumped.
please do more "cheap low-power" gaming systems.
add some rts titles to your gaming benchmarks like aoe3 definitive ( really brings my i5 6500 gtx1050 to its knees )
your quick editing ( shots of memes ) are hilarious.
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i am going to subscribe. ( i only have 3 other yt subscrbes )
One of the most best UA-camrs if you want to see a person screw around with a 3080 maybe even one of the 40 series in the future this is the best channel to go to… in a certain point of view.
Again, this is the most tech gangster thing, in true David style.
The crazy thying is, not too long ago, folks bought these alienware machines just to get and flip the cards in them. A dell branded 3080, what a scary thought.
I subscribed when you made the joke about little progress with 8 degrees, I like the 80's jazzercise music at 7:00
Dawid, do you remember what thickness thermal pads you used? Really glad I watched this video, thermal paste on the plate was brilliant, great idea! I just got one of these.
Love stuff like this i just find the tinkering around with hardware like this interesting
more entertaining than LTT this week, nice going Dawid!
is it deepcool tharmal pad?
the next step after ziptying the cooler to the back would be to DIY a bracket to hold it there.
But yeah, where are fancy backplates with fins. Could work well as visual thing and as cooler.
Adding heatsinks and fans to the backplate doesn't work. I've seen several other times when people tried it during researching this card, and really all that matters is the core and vram temps are good. The backplate getting hot doesn't hurt anything.
I actually had done you're second solution with heat-sink and fan stuck to rear of RTX 3090 fe (3 Months back XD). But I used those small 5mm heat-sinks that are used for raspberry pi lol and stuck a small 40mm delta fan that goes to 10k rpm (didn't have much space with nh-d15). This contraption lowered the max memory temp to 86c from 94c. Given how cheap the solution was I have been happy since then. Those delta 40mm are not that noisy and have low cfm but high static pressure that makes this work I believe.
Seen people do that back in the day with LGA1366 systems. Basically adding more cooling to the back of the motherboard behind the CPU socket.
And yes, not connected backplates and those of plastic not only don't help mut sometimes make things worse by isolating. Metal ones with proper contact are basically heatsinks and fulfill the best function any plate could do.
I removed a plastic backplate off my Gigabyte GPU (never again I'm getting a Gigatrash)
"It's not the kind of figure that will get you laid, but better than I was expecting."
The way he delivers some of these lines is so off-the-cuff I refuse to believe it's scripted.
Tbh Dawid 🤔 you actually made some vg progress on improving the stock Dell RTX3080 GPU cooling🥶😇💪👍. I always try little things like what you did in your video to improve my overall pc component temps. A couple degrees Celsius can easily add another couple boost bins on your GPU …. and netting maybe a couple more fps…… but do this to your cpu, GPU, VRM’s, tweak your memory etc …. Nets you anywhere from 5-15% fps boost 💪💪🥰👍
This Looks amazing
I remember having one of those before I built my own PC, had to have the card replaced twice because it would overheat, shut down the PC, and not boot for hours. Hate these cards with a burning passion.
Happy new year wonder what GPUs will bring this year 😁
The #1 thing you should do to reduce memory temps, is to remove those stickers that are in the way. Paper really sucks at thermal transfer.
Then possibly sand the paint off too, get metal to metal and then use paste between the cooler and mid plate.
I'm actually almost surprised you didnt do like a noctua strapping to replace it's nomal fans, cause it would do the job. interesting to see how good it's heatsink is. otherwise, very nice to see that process
Something to try might be one of those carbon thermal pads people are using on their cpus in place of thermal paste. Cheers on the great video! New sub from me!
Since the backplate already acts as a kind of heatsink with a heatpipe and everything, I wonder what it would do if you just secured a fan directly above the back of the memory and force air into it
You should have used thermal glue on the backplate cooler, and thermal pads on the memory heat sink. The vapor chamber isn't making a good contact with the memory heat sink, so the thermal paste is useless.
Can someone please tell me what software David uses when he tests games?
A guy on Facebook was selling one of these Dell 3080s for $300 with the unusual circumstance of the fans not working while the GPU itself worked just fine. I asked him if I could try it out before I bought it and he was okay with it. The GPU in fact worked fine, though the fans simply didn't work. I went ahead and bout it and tried to fix the fans to no avail. I had a backup plan -- remove the fans and zip tie two case fans onto the heat sink. I bought a couple $10 Corsair case fans at Best Buy, nothing special, and with most games it stays at around 60 on the GPU and around 83 on the memory. For some reason God of War raises that GPU's temps to the surface of Mercury.
In this video Dawid fills all the holes and crevices of this Ailienware 3080 with his paste.
This looks like a reference PCB so you could try the Alphacool eiswolf 2 . GPU aftermarket AIOs deserve some exposure. Would love to see more Companies manufacture GPU AIOs.
This GPU will prove it self on the fury road.
Interesting test, I would have thought the fan would have made some difference!
It probably couldn't do much because it was trying to get the heat from through the PCB, then through the back plate and over to the side (not the heat pipe side) and it just didn't cool much, even if the fan was going really fast.
I once had a fan strapped straight to the back plate (no heat sink) and it helped lower VRM temps a bit, but it wasn't worth the hassle
impressive that they have a heatpipe on the backplate. no other company did that for the 30 series cards