This is perfect timing! Delay jab is the main thing I was planning to practice next to level up my game. Just hit 1600 MR and I'm realizing that in order to maintain or exceed that, I seriously need to improve my defense. Love the chill, clear and concise explanations!
Great video as always. One suggestion though: for this sort of stuff where it's important to get the timing of a button just right, I feel like it would be helpful to have the on-screen button overlay that shows what you're pressing and when.
I love your videos man, I just got SF6 and in my first 2 days placed Silver5 as Rashid but now I'm getting my ass kicked by everyone and when I was looking for stuff to implement in my game early I found your guides and they've been so helpful to me
The amount of tech i was unaware of and got taught for first time by you is absolutely insane. I'm going back and forth between diamond 3 and 4 at the moment and did not know this (amongst so many other things 😅) Thanks for all the great content Chris!
Great video -1 light tick throw beat >= 3 frames delay Characters with -1 frame tick throw: Dhalsim 5LP GUILE 5LK HONDA 5LP / 2LP JAMIE 2LP JP 2LP JURI 2LP / 2LK KEN 5LP / 2LP LILY 2LP RYU 5LP / 2LP I don't have the DLCs ( if someone want to send me a gift🎁) -1 frame lights that can possibly lead to tick throw : Rashid 5LP? / 2LP? / 5LK? / 2LK? A.K.I. 5LP? / 2LP? ED 2LP? AKUMA 5LP? / 2LP? M.Bison 5LK? Blanka, Cammy, Kimberly, Manon, Marisa, Zangief don't have -1 lights so 2~3 frames delay jab is pretty strong against them. Unfortunately this isn't busted as I thought but I learned some good thinks while labbing . If your character have a -1 light tick throw so your opponent can't delay more than 2 frames to interrupt you. Mixing -2 lights, jab low jab, low jab jab..., are pretty good at catching your opponent delay mashing. I'm currently playing Juri, so 5LP > 2LK > 2LP > 214MK beats 2f or lower mash, 2LK/2LP tick throw against 3f or higher mash, and 2LK fuzzy walk to bait delay tech.
If I set the cpu to jab on a 3f delay on block they get counter hit thrown when I go for tick throw. If I delay the tick throw by a few frames the situation in this video occurs where if you mash you get normal hit and frame trapped if the opponent staggers lights, but if you delay jab you get the CH and block staggered lights. It seems to me that a delay tech would cover tick throw and staggered lights, but get blown up by shimmy, while this would cover shimmy and staggered lights, but lose to tick throw. And a 2 frame delayed fuzzy jab would cover tick throw, shimmy, and a true blockstring, but lose to a frame trap.
Hey, I have a question. I'm relatively new to fighting games, with just under 120 hours of playtime so far. I’ve noticed an issue with my inputs-sometimes when I press a button or perform a command, it doesn’t register, almost like the input gets “eaten.” When I slow down my inputs, the commands execute more reliably, but that risks my opponent escaping the combo or pressure. I’ve observed more experienced players, and their input timing actually matches what I was doing initially before I started slowing down. I decided to break it down and take it one button at a time to figure out what’s going on. It seems like there's a slight delay, almost like a millisecond gap, between my inputs. So, here’s my question: We’re both using the same leverless controller, but your inputs seem to register much quicker than mine. What could be causing this issue? Just to clarify, I have a solid PC, and I’m experiencing the same results in the training room, so I don’t think it’s an internet issue.
I think it could be because you’re pushing too fast and you aren’t pushing the button all the way down. That would explain why you get it when you go slow. Hard to say without seeing your inputs though
@@Chris_F Thank you for the response. Apparently, i was mostly getting that issue with manon for whatever reason, which is sad because i hoped to main her. Other characters work as intended.
Love these defense videos, this is a weakness in my gameplay I'm working on. I'm trying to figure out how to rotate between delay jab and delay tech. Generally, is the strategy to go for delay jab when your opponent is + on block? And delay tech when they're in throw range ?
Certain characters have only got 4 frame normals while standing so I guess using lows to counter would be good right? Or can they use 5 frame fuzzy attacks? Also a lot of people seem to catch me with mediums to interrupt jabs, what can I do then as I can't get out of range and I'm minus 2 so their medium basically becomes a 4 frame startup? Thanks for your vids as always man,, your channel is always good for teaching everyone this stuff at all levels
Really hard to answer this in a UA-cam comment since there are a lot of variables that change what you need to do. I’ll take a look at your replays on stream if you like, it’ll be easier for me to show you and chat that way
@@Chris_F wow man that's really cool of you thank you, I don't know if I can get much time to be there I only really get a couple of hours late at night to play games or watch streams but I'd love to if I can. What time do you normally stream? Also feel free to check my replays or videos for your stream either way man and thank you for replying to my comment :)
you can only hit them once with a jab if they are blocking they can counter you if you keep jabbing, unless you DR into jab you can hit them 2 times on block before they can counter you. you are most likely doing jab jab jab every time whether they block or get hit and they picked up on your habits. you need to change things up like jab, move back or jab, throw. jab, delay jab to counter their tech throw ect. dont just keep jabbing to get out of face to face situations.
@@nomaschalupas2453 hey man thank you for your reply, I might not have explained very well but basically I land a single jab then they immediately hit me with crmp since after jab I'm minus 2 and there's no way to walk back out of range from it, the crmp being 6 frames is basically a 4 frame at that point so it beats everything and even if I do crlp x3 or crlk etc I'm still not able to get out of range, and trying to parry is a big risk because they might just throw me. You're right though, it's important to mix up between using jabs and waiting and using throw and maybe u can use staggered light attacks to catch people out too
@@remylebeau34 there are many situations but the specific one you are talking about you have to either not jab in the first place or if they keep pressing buttons after you jab, then its up to you to either try and perfect parry it, they might throw you but if they are already hitting you with a medium they can basically do a full high damage combo so a throw is going to be less damage. also can just block after jab, if they dont DRC then its your turn again since the only reason they can land a hit is if you are still attacking after the first jab, or even DP if you really think they will press a button after jab but this one has to be a hard read and actually the most dangerous choice, not parry. there's stilll really no one answer because its up to you to read the person you are fighting and apply choices based off what habits they have.
what's the difference between using delay jab vs delay crlk? the low kick catches them if they walk backwards, what's the benefit of jab if it loses to that?
Is it like a better version of delay throw tech ? I'm not sure I understand when to go for one or the other, as I feel delay jab does everything better.
Since jab does not come out during the throw animation, but you have 11f window during the throw animation to tech the throw, is it possible to input jab followed by throw tech to cover both options?
@@Chris_F If possible then it would be extremely useful, because then it would be almost as the same as delay tech in SF4 where you get a light attack, which is much safer than whiffing a throw. But I just tried it and it doesn't seem possible. As soon as you're in the throw animation, if you press anything before throw then your subsequent throw input doesn't allow you to tech.
@@Chris_F thanks, I fully agree. I think the key word I missed on my comment was "yet". I can't take advantage of this yet I'm aware about a lot of my weaknesses so it all boils down to having the time to play more and lab in a smart way
What I want is for cr.HP to work as anti air in the corner 100%. I mean wtf is that weird gap that happens while I am in the corner? weird ass programming. As if crosscut is my only real option... absolute bs imo.
This is perfect timing! Delay jab is the main thing I was planning to practice next to level up my game. Just hit 1600 MR and I'm realizing that in order to maintain or exceed that, I seriously need to improve my defense. Love the chill, clear and concise explanations!
Thanks and I’m happy you like it! Good luck getting past 1600, let me know if you do!
One of the ways i beat it sometimes is using a spaced jab to get them to whiff their delay jab and instantly press st.hp to spacing trap it
We making it outta bronze with this one boys 🔥🔥
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Need to get my perfect parries down first
All you need to do is anti air to get out of bronze.
Ngl I feel this tech is for diamond and low Mr players, since if I remember correctly bronze players jump and mash
insane 😭
Good info.
Choosing between delay jab & delay throw tech seems tricky. Thanks for the vid.
*always massive content from you. Solid work!*
Thanks bro! You keep up the good work too!
@@Chris_F these videos you do make people understand way better about the game. Inspiration for sure!
Great video as always. One suggestion though: for this sort of stuff where it's important to get the timing of a button just right, I feel like it would be helpful to have the on-screen button overlay that shows what you're pressing and when.
Thx! I almost always do, I totally forgot to enable it in settings this time. Content creation is hard😭
I love your videos man, I just got SF6 and in my first 2 days placed Silver5 as Rashid but now I'm getting my ass kicked by everyone and when I was looking for stuff to implement in my game early I found your guides and they've been so helpful to me
Glad I could help, enjoy SF6 it’s a great game!
Thank you so much for the subtitles!!! Keep up the good work!! Greetings from Argentina
I do it for my international community! Thank you so much for watching!
I love these training mode drill setups.
Do you not do these things in training?
@@dragonfleuleu9692 I don't train!
Glad to help!
Love your videos man, learnt a lot
Thank you!!
The amount of tech i was unaware of and got taught for first time by you is absolutely insane. I'm going back and forth between diamond 3 and 4 at the moment and did not know this (amongst so many other things 😅) Thanks for all the great content Chris!
Thanks for taking the time to let me know! Got more videos coming and I hope you can level up even more with them
Excellent video Chris as always, or is it Bryan. Love your work
Thank you so much!!
Great video
-1 light tick throw beat >= 3 frames delay
Characters with -1 frame tick throw:
Dhalsim 5LP
GUILE 5LK
HONDA 5LP / 2LP
JAMIE 2LP
JP 2LP
JURI 2LP / 2LK
KEN 5LP / 2LP
LILY 2LP
RYU 5LP / 2LP
I don't have the DLCs ( if someone want to send me a gift🎁)
-1 frame lights that can possibly lead to tick throw :
Rashid 5LP? / 2LP? / 5LK? / 2LK?
A.K.I. 5LP? / 2LP?
ED 2LP?
AKUMA 5LP? / 2LP?
M.Bison 5LK?
Blanka, Cammy, Kimberly, Manon, Marisa, Zangief don't have -1 lights so 2~3 frames delay jab is pretty strong against them.
Unfortunately this isn't busted as I thought but I learned some good thinks while labbing .
If your character have a -1 light tick throw so your opponent can't delay more than 2 frames to interrupt you. Mixing -2 lights, jab low jab, low jab jab..., are pretty good at catching your opponent delay mashing.
I'm currently playing Juri, so 5LP > 2LK > 2LP > 214MK beats 2f or lower mash, 2LK/2LP tick throw against 3f or higher mash, and 2LK fuzzy walk to bait delay tech.
If I set the cpu to jab on a 3f delay on block they get counter hit thrown when I go for tick throw. If I delay the tick throw by a few frames the situation in this video occurs where if you mash you get normal hit and frame trapped if the opponent staggers lights, but if you delay jab you get the CH and block staggered lights. It seems to me that a delay tech would cover tick throw and staggered lights, but get blown up by shimmy, while this would cover shimmy and staggered lights, but lose to tick throw. And a 2 frame delayed fuzzy jab would cover tick throw, shimmy, and a true blockstring, but lose to a frame trap.
Yay he uploaded
best content out there. keep it coming
Thank you, I will💪🏻
We eating good with this one
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Hey, I have a question. I'm relatively new to fighting games, with just under 120 hours of playtime so far. I’ve noticed an issue with my inputs-sometimes when I press a button or perform a command, it doesn’t register, almost like the input gets “eaten.” When I slow down my inputs, the commands execute more reliably, but that risks my opponent escaping the combo or pressure.
I’ve observed more experienced players, and their input timing actually matches what I was doing initially before I started slowing down. I decided to break it down and take it one button at a time to figure out what’s going on. It seems like there's a slight delay, almost like a millisecond gap, between my inputs.
So, here’s my question: We’re both using the same leverless controller, but your inputs seem to register much quicker than mine. What could be causing this issue?
Just to clarify, I have a solid PC, and I’m experiencing the same results in the training room, so I don’t think it’s an internet issue.
I think it could be because you’re pushing too fast and you aren’t pushing the button all the way down. That would explain why you get it when you go slow.
Hard to say without seeing your inputs though
@@Chris_F Thank you for the response. Apparently, i was mostly getting that issue with manon for whatever reason, which is sad because i hoped to main her. Other characters work as intended.
I just wanna know one thing… how in the hell did people originally discover these things?
Lots of work and dedication
Fuzzy crMK against shimmies works for me. And fuzzy lk against gladius pressure.
Love these defense videos, this is a weakness in my gameplay I'm working on. I'm trying to figure out how to rotate between delay jab and delay tech. Generally, is the strategy to go for delay jab when your opponent is + on block? And delay tech when they're in throw range ?
More or less yes, you just don’t want to do delay jab when they are + and in throw range.
Glad you liked it and thx for commenting!
Whats the name of that first track in the background? I love it.
I can’t remember the name but I usually use mixes from Jason sanders
@@Chris_F thank you
Certain characters have only got 4 frame normals while standing so I guess using lows to counter would be good right? Or can they use 5 frame fuzzy attacks? Also a lot of people seem to catch me with mediums to interrupt jabs, what can I do then as I can't get out of range and I'm minus 2 so their medium basically becomes a 4 frame startup?
Thanks for your vids as always man,, your channel is always good for teaching everyone this stuff at all levels
Really hard to answer this in a UA-cam comment since there are a lot of variables that change what you need to do. I’ll take a look at your replays on stream if you like, it’ll be easier for me to show you and chat that way
@@Chris_F wow man that's really cool of you thank you, I don't know if I can get much time to be there I only really get a couple of hours late at night to play games or watch streams but I'd love to if I can. What time do you normally stream? Also feel free to check my replays or videos for your stream either way man and thank you for replying to my comment :)
you can only hit them once with a jab if they are blocking they can counter you if you keep jabbing, unless you DR into jab you can hit them 2 times on block before they can counter you.
you are most likely doing jab jab jab every time whether they block or get hit and they picked up on your habits. you need to change things up like jab, move back or jab, throw. jab, delay jab to counter their tech throw ect. dont just keep jabbing to get out of face to face situations.
@@nomaschalupas2453 hey man thank you for your reply, I might not have explained very well but basically I land a single jab then they immediately hit me with crmp since after jab I'm minus 2 and there's no way to walk back out of range from it, the crmp being 6 frames is basically a 4 frame at that point so it beats everything and even if I do crlp x3 or crlk etc I'm still not able to get out of range, and trying to parry is a big risk because they might just throw me. You're right though, it's important to mix up between using jabs and waiting and using throw and maybe u can use staggered light attacks to catch people out too
@@remylebeau34 there are many situations but the specific one you are talking about you have to either not jab in the first place or if they keep pressing buttons after you jab, then its up to you to either try and perfect parry it, they might throw you but if they are already hitting you with a medium they can basically do a full high damage combo so a throw is going to be less damage.
also can just block after jab, if they dont DRC then its your turn again since the only reason they can land a hit is if you are still attacking after the first jab, or even DP if you really think they will press a button after jab but this one has to be a hard read and actually the most dangerous choice, not parry.
there's stilll really no one answer because its up to you to read the person you are fighting and apply choices based off what habits they have.
what's the difference between using delay jab vs delay crlk? the low kick catches them if they walk backwards, what's the benefit of jab if it loses to that?
Cr lk attacks are usually 5F startup so they’re slower than a 4F cr lp making the timing harder to option select
Is it like a better version of delay throw tech ? I'm not sure I understand when to go for one or the other, as I feel delay jab does everything better.
Fuzzy jab won’t work if the opponent is in throw range and at +2 frames since throw will beat your jab
@@Chris_F I see, thanks for the answer
Any tips on figuring out the timing? I'm struggling
In reversal after guard, play with the delay settings for cr LP - alternate from a 1-4f delay
@@Chris_F I got it now thanks. I was doing it way too slow. The timing seems to be the same as the fuzzy walk
that 1-4f delay setting help me realize it
Drive rush button into throw is the real threat. Because now they're +1 or +2 and then they go for throw. 😂
You wouldn’t want to use this OS when you’re at -2
What is the best option to beat fuzzy jabs?
Delayed button
@@Chris_F Thanks. Keep going with the content🔥🔥
Since jab does not come out during the throw animation, but you have 11f window during the throw animation to tech the throw, is it possible to input jab followed by throw tech to cover both options?
Possible? Yes I think so.
Useful? Not really, since you risk getting CH thrown if you mess up the jab timing and then you can’t break the throw
@@Chris_F If possible then it would be extremely useful, because then it would be almost as the same as delay tech in SF4 where you get a light attack, which is much safer than whiffing a throw.
But I just tried it and it doesn't seem possible. As soon as you're in the throw animation, if you press anything before throw then your subsequent throw input doesn't allow you to tech.
@MingoDynasty ahhhh true that’s right. That’s why I like sf6 way better than 4, option selects in 4 were way too strong
@@Chris_F that's funny considering this video is about fuzzy jab option select in SF6 lol.
Every game has both offensive and defensive option selects but for me, sf4 was too OS heavy. 6 strikes a good balance IMO
Can u do fuzzy walk back
Fuzzy Walk: An AMAZING Option-Select VS Tick Throws (SF6 Guide)
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why is it called fuzzy
No idea, that’s what the FGC came up with years ago
Never knew
Now you know!
Chris f uploading faster than I can practice I needa take off from work
I need to take time off work to keep up this pace😂
I'm too bad to take advantage of something like this
Don’t put yourself down like that, with practice anything is possible!
@@Chris_F thanks, I fully agree. I think the key word I missed on my comment was "yet". I can't take advantage of this yet
I'm aware about a lot of my weaknesses so it all boils down to having the time to play more and lab in a smart way
Great video but your controller is a monstrosity
Actually it’s an ASI LVL controller!
Please don’t teach this I hate it
Im a high ranked diamond player who didnt know about this (crazy ikr). This may be what puts me over into the elite master tier.
Good luck!!
Ive gotten to master with multiple characters and still aint know this shit, this game is crazy
@@Jamik96a lot of Diamond and Master players have no idea how to frame trap or counterhit confirm , or even fish for counter hits, so don’t feel bad.
Master in this game is gold on SF5
this game is too hard im out
What I want is for cr.HP to work as anti air in the corner 100%. I mean wtf is that weird gap that happens while I am in the corner? weird ass programming. As if crosscut is my only real option... absolute bs imo.
If you know they’ll jump you can just walk forward and they’ll corner themselves
@@Chris_F I'll keep that in mind, thanx.