Add Whitney Webb in that conversation and it’ll be the best discussion hands down. Specially if Webb is able to get them to open up about certain topics
Exactly! We should promote redemption, not a lifetime condemnation. When someone is having a hard time and if we could do something to help for them to be better individuals, why not. Society will benefit from a changed man.
“The problem with geniuses is they got lots of problem like other people do, but they are also geniuses.” This is so true, the bar is so high for certain people just because they are talented, people tend to even dehumanize high performers.
Look at the way he moves in hand when he says but their also geniuses.. he said that exactly how Ye would say it, the body language and all even the inhale after the sentence and stop and look at you.. that was spooky lol
No the problem with genius is they understand things on a deeper level than most people are able to comprehend and therefore they come off as crazy to the vast majority of the population
I requested it like 2 years ago on a Q&A survey run by Mikhaila I think but for Jordan's UA-cam channel, I don't remember how popular that request got but I remember seeing others discreetly mentioning throughout social media that they saw a resemblance in the patterns of thought of Kanye and Jordan, I did too and think it would be an actual dream come true to see how their conversation would go. Also, I want to see Jordan in some Yeezy that would be remarkable and unforgettable.
Jordan is clueless. People aren't envious of minorities that are wealthy, such as east Asians or some gulf Arab communities in America, they hate it when a certain minority exclusively runs an industry and shows clear favoritism towards their own while harboring a cutthroat environment towards outsider artists they latch on to. This certain minority has been doing it for ages in the music industry, literally dozens of famous bands since the 20th century and now who were either torn apart or stripped of rights to their own music due to some heinous feud, and coincidentally it's always this particular minority. Now they have rappers on a leash, and have shady practices that would have immediately been called out if it was perpetrated by whites. Jordan is clueless. It's also done in sports and acting... Jordan will just make a fallible equivalencies about human scapegoating and other psychological phenomena while ignoring blaring facts and history.
(Preface: I’m not siding with either party in my response below) Lex kept trying to get Ye to “apologise” and kept missing Ye’s point about WHY he tweeted what he did. Regardless of my position on the inflammatory tweet, Lex needed to rise above that element and get to the crux, as he had with other topics he discussed with Ye.
@Mar It I'm saying Kanye is having a fucking hissy fit, ok he has reason 2 be angry and call out the bs that happens in the world but he is a bastard 4 spreading and initiating hate against innocent Jews. Would it be ok if I woke up and I was famous and tweeted something against black people and people started attacking them because a famous person said they are responsible for other's problems that had nothing to do with them? NO. I get Kanye is frustrated man and he is clever at but Lex was calling him on his general BS when it should have been directed more specifically not generally
I always said that about Michael Jackson. People tried to relate him to his brothers or to other men when he was clearly not only a very unique emotional cocktail of childhood trauma and hyper-fame, but also a bonafide genius that experienced the world in ways that would have been evident even if he never become THE Michael Jackson. We can accept it in autistics, yet geniuses just seem to be 'gifted' when they dazzle us, and mentally ill when they express themselves in ways that are considered damaging by the populous. That isn't to say that geniuses should exist outside of our agreed upon moral and ethical codes or that they're so far from being human that they're some other form of life, but the ignorance required to act as though there is no distinct difference at all, leaves us missing something crucial.
That’s the thing. People often take JP’s words out of context and project their own ideas. That was good of Andrew to point out. It’s tough to communicate ideas properly when inferences, which are obvious to some, but subtle to others, are missed.
How did you justify spending money on therapy when it can so often be disappointing, incorrect, and not worth the money. I'm having trouble justifying that risk after so much expensive failure for years.
He evidently as wronged so many people close to him so to assume she’s the one in the wrong is ridiculous. She put up with his behavior for years and if you bother to look past a 15 year old incident you would know she was his biggest supporter, she even ended up encouraging him to wear the MAGA hat if he felt like it despite being on the opposite political end. When he had panic attacks she was literally right there crying with him and the second they file for divorce he’s off with a million models. And she gets in one single relationship months after and Kanye is nonstop harassing both of them online.
People from all polarities coming together to have a focused concise conversation with empathy and compassion while being able to express tough love. 👍
Jordan doesn't hear this enough but it's true. Canada loves you and are proud of you. Trudeau would never say that but who cares. The people have spoken.
well being the leader of Canada he should mention all Jordan has done and the people he has helped but he never will. unlike his father, Justin always plays it safe and tries to be so PC its embarrassing.
@@mspaint93 contribute positively to society, stop indoctrinating our kids with sexual-perversión and race-hate, and you can prevent the eventual retaliation of civilization.
@@mspaint93 in the past we have had to clean the earth of liars cowards thieves pedophiles and perverts. If this debauchery keeps up, we will have to do it again.
his critics are going to be jumping out of their chairs now that he actually said something directly offensive for the first time ever. however as usual, they'll be severely hampered by the context.
I'm very glad to hear this! I knew Kanye was friends with Candace Owens so when all this started I immediately thought man, I really wish she would introduce him to JP. They need to have some private conversations and hopefully JP can gently steer him in the right direction. JP has been so valuable to so many of us, perhaps he can inspire Ye as well
@@soiralknarf Im sure Jordan is well aware that his excuses simply do not account for nearly the influence we see. ESPECIALLY if he's read two hundred years together by solzhenitsyn. For some reason Peterson turns a blind eye to the huge nepotism that goes on. Which is an issue because, like Peterson has mentioned before in other interviews, you want to be around people like yourself, which have a common and shared interests. Now when you have a massively disproportionate numbers of jewish people that DIRECTLY control major branches of that countries financial, political, and media landscape, you might start wondering if that groups common and shared interests are perhaps different than the common and shared interests from the rest of the country. I don't think he's even mentioned that Jews, as a group, are overwhelmingly left wing, and some of the most radical of them, often are jewish as a disproportionate rate.
@@subverted6555 exactly the book I was thinking of, also JP has a deal with the daily wire, which is run by a huge zionist ben Shapiro, hopefully the interview will be good though
"Steer him in the right direction" that's the problem and that you don't see a problem with that is a bigger problem. If JP thinks like you the conversation will be pointless
Some people were given very little support in their early life or were told to 'suck it up' and shown little kindness. Then the pressures of fame & fandom literally blow an underdeveloped, unsupported psyche to the four winds. Stubbornness can come from pain too & fear of failure too.
This touched me since i was in one church and the pastor there never seemed to tried really talking to me. He asked me once or twice how am i and it seemed to be usual conversation, but since i said i was ok he very quickly proceeded doing other things and never showed interest in my state of soul. Since he was the pastor i thought God was on his side, and that it was my fault, cause i should be the one asking for help if needed and it is true, but then again its nice to see that someone can try to reach to person in a normal nondramatic way. Just try to talk, see whats going on. Jesus helps me to forgive those who were weak to reach for me, since it is very hard to reach to someone who has problems and is hard to open up, like i was. Im not saying this is the case with Jordan Peterson and Kanye, but something about Jordan Peterson being so ok with talking to Kanye makes me feel liberated from some of the wrong stuff i received in my heart from the time being in that church even though its generally a good church.
Pastors are generally very busy people. If you need a pastor's help, you should ask for it. I'd say pastors as a group might be more empathetic on average than the general population, but to expect one to detect your inner turmoil on the evidence of a neutral answer to "How are you" is unreasonable.
(Jesus helps me to forgive the people who were too weak to reach me) sounds a little narcissistic. From what I've gathered from religion is that you should submit to jesus or God completely, not in another person albeit a pastor a friend or even family. Only God can lead you back to yourself
Man this is one in a life time event!! 😂😂😂😂 Seriously, Kanye can learn so much from Jordan Peterson- he can actually treat him with his disorder and he would understand Kanye to the T. We could all learn something from that conversation when and if it happens.
Yes but lex and Piers have the elite level influence and coverage JP doesn’t. Those guys are literally media outlets whilst JP is the local psychologist everybody (the internet) loves If Ye went to JP he would have got his point across but no one would hear about it. Kanye knows what he’s doing, true genius ♟ Also Kanye’s stature is too elite it would affect his brand and his handlers most likely won’t let him do a localised interview, nothing Ye does is small, everything has to be larger than life then leveraged on steroids and controversy
That last point “geniuses have lots of problems just like ordinary people do but they are also geniuses, yeah?, well that’s a good thing to keep in mind” that point from Jordan is genius 👏👏
JP is team Shapiro, he just got back from Israel too. He even insinuated in this short clip that's easy to draw conspiracies when a minority is disproportionately successful. The thing is, it's not a conspiracy and they've been controlling the media and many other aspects of people's lives for a very long time. There is no way JP will back Kanye, he thinks Kanye needs help and wants to offer him some help.
1:35 "I'm planning to talk to Kanye soon, I think. . . . I'd like to find out what's going on: he's a stunningly creative person. . . . Too much of a treasure to throw in the dust bin.
someone please tell Dr.peterson the chance of a convo with Ye THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS Kanye would most definitely rise by calling him by his preferred/real/new name REAL TALK
Yay for ye!! A discussion with Ye is always something I’d love to hear. He is brilliant and has so much more to offer if people would actually listen instead of assume what he’s saying and trying to put him in a box. I’d love to see more people like you who can actually see his power, rather than seeing the misunderstandings and confusion lead by the media.
Peterson values money over truth and integrity that's why he will never go full kanye and address the core of today's issues. He'd rather capitalize on false hope and snake oil
Yes JP!!!! I’ve been waiting for this!!! Thank you!!!!! Wisdom and more wisdom!! Next I’d love to see you interview the amazing Dr. Caroline Leaf and Dr. Bruce Lipton!!!!! Thank you!! I can’t wait!!!
Both Chinese and Indians are highly successful minorities and they do not receive the same response. And the response the Jewish people receive has been consistent across vast reaches of space and time. To suggest it has nothing to do with their own bad behaviour is frankly absurd.
They are successful, but not nearly as successful as Jews. Look at how many Nobel prize winners, chess champions, millionaires, and fields medal winners are Jewish. Now contrast that with Chinese and Indians. You can blame it on bad behavior or just accept reality - Jews are more successful. Blaming it on bad behavior is frankly, idiotic. But by all means, keep being antisemitic.
I wish it would. Maybe in private, though. As much as I would love to hear Jordan Peterson’s advice to Kanye, I think that in order to really get the help he needs Kanye needs to see Jordan Peterson privately as a patient seeing a psychologist, not in public as a performative interview.
That would be an interesting interview as Peterson is a psychologist and Kanye struggles with bi-polar. Surely, Peterson picks up on Kanye's struggles and how he would navigate that interview would be interesting.
Dr. Peterson understands what we all already know who has a head on our shoulders ...Kanye IS FAR FROM CRAZY...Kanye is absolutely a creative Genius. This is coming from someone who doesn't even enjoy the type of music and fashion he creates...but if you do respect and see the visionary pieces that he is influencing the world, not taken from the world, you see he is quite special. Very very special.
He is objectively genius in music industry. Man knows how people listen to music or what kind of music people would be interested in listening at least a half decade before everyone. He revolutionized the industry multiple times. And sold yeezy successfully. You give yeezy to someone else and ask them to sell it, nobody would even consider buying it. Kanye sold yeezies.
the last part is a good thing to keep in mind, though i'm not sure i understand Ye's "genius" status he just seems to me like a regular talented person like other talented persons but i don't know enough about him
His background is likely not what you think. Unconstrained creative intelligence is typically a burden to the person, and those around them. The Rap thing was his calling card.
"Our fellow Whites are noticing, better send out Peterstein again to give them another lecture on how they're all just individuals and not part of a collective like us."
@@jbayne91jb No I was using a popular meme used to highlight that he's married to one, works for them, is heavily promoted by them and gatekeeps for them. Is this your first day on the internet?
@@noogate2672 you do know there are only like 14 million jews left in the world right? Not everyone is a jew lmao. Its funny when people think jews are everywhere. They are technically "endangered species" at this point
I feel like Jewish people look down on anyone that is not Jewish. Huge generalisation I know but it’s my experience of living in a predominantly Jewish area in London. I have nothing against Jewish people
Mr. Peterson, God is my savior, but so are YOU!!!! See I t’s not only the young males that love you, us young women love you too!! Although I’m not soo young! I’m 57 in an 18 yo mind, in a 90 yo body!! You’re soo awesome!! You’re like our dad!! Taking care of our people!! Like Ye!! When you come to the rescue, I always feel better about everything!! I want to bake you an apple pie to thank you for being here for us!!
What is the subtext here? Isn't being intelligent and "successful" more likely to actually conspire over the "less successful"? Is that not possible and we should just dismiss the notion? (Note, I don't know much about the actual facts here, so maybe he's right in this case but still, shouldn't generalize). Then he implies he knows more than Kanye (again, maybe he does) but he will talk to him to straighten him out, after all he's a genius and genius - like ordinary men - have issues. All geniuses are equal but some are more equal than others.
I hope their conversation is private. I'd be happy to hear what either would like to share afterward, but I'm hoping Ye gets real help, not just another moment to be a spectacle.
The Jewish people are especially good in area where there is alot of talking like Law, politics, Business , media. So he‘s not actually wrong with some facts. I hope you‘ll adress that
The fact that Jordan Peterson called Kanye a genius is another example of how devalued that word has become. Every one who is the slightest bit talented or creative is a fucking genius, ha. Comedic genius, musical genius, skate-boarding genius, business genius. Yes, such a meaningless word now.
The College Dropout was a pretty revolutionary album in rap / hip-hop genre when it first came out. Then he did it again with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (which is widely considered his greatest album). And he produced these albums by himself.
interesting part. i've noticed nervous or fake laugh and conflictogenic gestures from side of Andrew. seems to me he did not enjoy hearing those ideas. though JBP as always stuns me with his ability to conduct profound analysis and wanting to understand rather then just labeling.
One specific minority group that owns a majority of the influence and wealth, not just in America but the whole world, is a pretty fair cause for concern and conspiracy
I think jordan is trying to say in the end that people need to be able to separate the genius of a person from the flaws, just because a person has personal issues like we all do it doesn't invalidate the contribution they can make or have made to society as great minds.
Ye is the goat. I am so happy that Jordan was not disrespectful. I also disagree with what Ye said on Jews, but he DID make my favorite albums, and he IS a genius.
I'm sure this has nothing to do with JBP's entire talent agency being Jewish and them having the power to decide what direction his context takes and that he will never answer the question he was once asked about Solzhenitsyn's "200 years together"
Peterson talking to Kanye, is a Superbowl level interview. Please let it happen.
It's better that happens in private
@@user-nc9pc3gr4c why?
@@tsunami2447 He need real help.
@@user-nc9pc3gr4c In your opinion. Funny how people online think they're licensed clinicians. For all I know, you may need help.
@@kirktuss4819 Good for you. I Rather see Kanye vs Peterson. I'm pretty certain you will watch it too, despite, what you have already seen
Imagine a round table discussion with Andrew Tate, Ye, and Kyrie Irving, all moderated by JP. Would break the internet
Add Whitney Webb in that conversation and it’ll be the best discussion hands down. Specially if Webb is able to get them to open up about certain topics
I see this happening.
Broooooo!!!!!
One more person. Dr. Umar to not only drop the mic after every sentence but break the chair as well
I must be the only one who has no idea who those people are.
"College Dropout is a bloody great album. It also speaks to the fact that more men drop out off college than women, fundamentally speaking."
😂
Wrong album 😭
😂
You nailed that 😂
Hahahaha genius
JP and Kanye is the interview I would watch for 8 hours.
Same
Right
Put Andrew Tate in as well
@@CarlosVelazquez26 lol yes!
Sheep 🐑
The world should feel very blessed that this man is getting air time. Compassion and intelligence are in short supply these days.
Dr Peterson is all of the above that you describe. ❤ 🇬🇧
specially both together
Exactly! We should promote redemption, not a lifetime condemnation.
When someone is having a hard time and if we could do something to help for them to be better individuals, why not. Society will benefit from a changed man.
So vomit-inducing.
Yea especially since he helped write agenda 21 and cant answer the simple question of do you believe in God
“The problem with geniuses is they got lots of problem like other people do, but they are also geniuses.” This is so true, the bar is so high for certain people just because they are talented, people tend to even dehumanize high performers.
This reminded me of Ronaldo's interview with Morgan.
Look at the way he moves in hand when he says but their also geniuses.. he said that exactly how Ye would say it, the body language and all even the inhale after the sentence and stop and look at you.. that was spooky lol
No the problem with genius is they understand things on a deeper level than most people are able to comprehend and therefore they come off as crazy to the vast majority of the population
@ZION HUNTER glad to see someone has looked deeper into it. Their obsession with the number 6 is not a coincidence
@David if you can’t make out the message from that. Then you’re just out of luck.
Ill be waiting for that damn interview for sure
It might well be private.
Go watch the Lex Friedman / Kanye West podcast on UA-cam if you want to hear the nutjob talk. It's difficult to sit through.
I want it to be private
It might be private like the one he had with CR7.
I requested it like 2 years ago on a Q&A survey run by Mikhaila I think but for Jordan's UA-cam channel, I don't remember how popular that request got but I remember seeing others discreetly mentioning throughout social media that they saw a resemblance in the patterns of thought of Kanye and Jordan, I did too and think it would be an actual dream come true to see how their conversation would go.
Also, I want to see Jordan in some Yeezy that would be remarkable and unforgettable.
Kanye doesn't need help
Thr ones that don't notice need help
He's actually suffering mentally tho.
100% fax
Real life! He just needed to get out of those vampire kardashsss and he is out alive, thank God
You better know him well to come out with that "bold" statement.
Jordan is the only person I want to see talking with Ye - damn right he's a treasure. Really wish Ye had just avoided the likes of Lex, Piers etc.
Jordan is clueless. People aren't envious of minorities that are wealthy, such as east Asians or some gulf Arab communities in America, they hate it when a certain minority exclusively runs an industry and shows clear favoritism towards their own while harboring a cutthroat environment towards outsider artists they latch on to. This certain minority has been doing it for ages in the music industry, literally dozens of famous bands since the 20th century and now who were either torn apart or stripped of rights to their own music due to some heinous feud, and coincidentally it's always this particular minority. Now they have rappers on a leash, and have shady practices that would have immediately been called out if it was perpetrated by whites. Jordan is clueless. It's also done in sports and acting... Jordan will just make a fallible equivalencies about human scapegoating and other psychological phenomena while ignoring blaring facts and history.
What's wrong with Lex? That was a good interview
(Preface: I’m not siding with either party in my response below) Lex kept trying to get Ye to “apologise” and kept missing Ye’s point about WHY he tweeted what he did. Regardless of my position on the inflammatory tweet, Lex needed to rise above that element and get to the crux, as he had with other topics he discussed with Ye.
Lex had the balls to call him on his bullshit
@Mar It I'm saying Kanye is having a fucking hissy fit, ok he has reason 2 be angry and call out the bs that happens in the world but he is a bastard 4 spreading and initiating hate against innocent Jews. Would it be ok if I woke up and I was famous and tweeted something against black people and people started attacking them because a famous person said they are responsible for other's problems that had nothing to do with them? NO. I get Kanye is frustrated man and he is clever at but Lex was calling him on his general BS when it should have been directed more specifically not generally
I always said that about Michael Jackson. People tried to relate him to his brothers or to other men when he was clearly not only a very unique emotional cocktail of childhood trauma and hyper-fame, but also a bonafide genius that experienced the world in ways that would have been evident even if he never become THE Michael Jackson. We can accept it in autistics, yet geniuses just seem to be 'gifted' when they dazzle us, and mentally ill when they express themselves in ways that are considered damaging by the populous. That isn't to say that geniuses should exist outside of our agreed upon moral and ethical codes or that they're so far from being human that they're some other form of life, but the ignorance required to act as though there is no distinct difference at all, leaves us missing something crucial.
This is the most accurate comment I’ve read in some time.
@@isaaccephus6936
You shd read more.
Also read a book on physics while you're at it. Lots of accurate statements there.
@@nochso6835 Modern physics is unproven nonsense
@ZION HUNTER Get them Adolf!
Seeing JBP having a chat with Kanye is like a surreal dream
WE NEED THIS TO HAPPEN
YESSS!!!
He likely means in a therapeutic sense; I doubt this would be a public conversation. Kanye needs help.
JP would give Kanye honor where it is due while still digging into depths.
It’s possible considering Matthew McConnaughy happened
He needs to be heard. Thats all. Just because he doesnt follow your rules doesnt mean hes broken.
That’s the thing. People often take JP’s words out of context and project their own ideas. That was good of Andrew to point out. It’s tough to communicate ideas properly when inferences, which are obvious to some, but subtle to others, are missed.
I've talked to therapists over the years and it's helped put a lot of misconceptions in my mind in the right places. I feel more grounded than before.
He needs to be heard. Thats all. Just because he doesnt follow your rules doesnt mean hes broken.
You ever complement traditional therapy with psychedelic therapy sessions?
How did you justify spending money on therapy when it can so often be disappointing, incorrect, and not worth the money. I'm having trouble justifying that risk after so much expensive failure for years.
money not well spent.
You should've just went to Bali
@@alvinashagarwal3939 Yes for real.. that was a disjointed bot thread... an advert for Bali? Certainly not a replacement for good therapy 😆
"a bit too much of a treasure just to throw in the dust bin" is a noble thing to think.
@Louis Baldwin that's like saying imagine if a pron star was a virgin.
He evidently as wronged so many people close to him so to assume she’s the one in the wrong is ridiculous. She put up with his behavior for years and if you bother to look past a 15 year old incident you would know she was his biggest supporter, she even ended up encouraging him to wear the MAGA hat if he felt like it despite being on the opposite political end. When he had panic attacks she was literally right there crying with him and the second they file for divorce he’s off with a million models. And she gets in one single relationship months after and Kanye is nonstop harassing both of them online.
@@birkknut276 prawn star
@@Shophiamondar2i hope kim sees this and adopts you bro, get tf outta her with that shit
"The thing about geniuses is that they also have problems like everybody else."
Ah.... I needed to hear that! =)
Stephencarlbad.
You silly silly😆
@@winstonbrown1516 😂
All these problem have been created by man....but why instead of living in peace and love
As a genius i agree
I too am genius and I conquer
People from all polarities coming together to have a focused concise conversation with empathy and compassion while being able to express tough love. 👍
@ZION HUNTER shut up
Jordan doesn't hear this enough but it's true. Canada loves you and are proud of you. Trudeau would never say that but who cares. The people have spoken.
🇬🇧 shouts it loud and clear..he's a force for good. ❤
He is a Jewish puppet. Funny cause he literally sounds like Kermit.
Who cares what Trudeau thinks.
well being the leader of Canada he should mention all Jordan has done and the people he has helped but he never will. unlike his father, Justin always plays it safe and tries to be so PC its embarrassing.
He needs to be heard. Thats all. Just because he doesnt follow your rules doesnt mean hes broken.
JP used to work for the UN under George Soros.
Howd this age man
@@mspaint93 contribute positively to society, stop indoctrinating our kids with sexual-perversión and race-hate, and you can prevent the eventual retaliation of civilization.
@@mspaint93 in the past we have had to clean the earth of liars cowards thieves pedophiles and perverts. If this debauchery keeps up, we will have to do it again.
"Minorities are annoying" ~Jordan Peterson
I strongly concur (I'm racist btw)
his critics are going to be jumping out of their chairs now that he actually said something directly offensive for the first time ever. however as usual, they'll be severely hampered by the context.
@@arian6565
What makes you a racist?
so you're saying you hate minorities... - kathy newman
@@winstonbrown1516 Winston: are you racist
Arian: who says I'm racist?
Winston: you say you are racist
Arian: I am an aryan
Winston: ☠️
I'm very glad to hear this! I knew Kanye was friends with Candace Owens so when all this started I immediately thought man, I really wish she would introduce him to JP. They need to have some private conversations and hopefully JP can gently steer him in the right direction. JP has been so valuable to so many of us, perhaps he can inspire Ye as well
Hopefully Ye can steer Jordan Peterson in the right direction.
@@soiralknarf Im sure Jordan is well aware that his excuses simply do not account for nearly the influence we see. ESPECIALLY if he's read two hundred years together by solzhenitsyn. For some reason Peterson turns a blind eye to the huge nepotism that goes on. Which is an issue because, like Peterson has mentioned before in other interviews, you want to be around people like yourself, which have a common and shared interests. Now when you have a massively disproportionate numbers of jewish people that DIRECTLY control major branches of that countries financial, political, and media landscape, you might start wondering if that groups common and shared interests are perhaps different than the common and shared interests from the rest of the country. I don't think he's even mentioned that Jews, as a group, are overwhelmingly left wing, and some of the most radical of them, often are jewish as a disproportionate rate.
@@subverted6555 exactly the book I was thinking of, also JP has a deal with the daily wire, which is run by a huge zionist ben Shapiro, hopefully the interview will be good though
Ye is already pointed in the right direction
"Steer him in the right direction" that's the problem and that you don't see a problem with that is a bigger problem. If JP thinks like you the conversation will be pointless
I am glad that Mr peterson is going to have a word with Mr West,we all need help at sometime in our life,but some people are very stubborn
Agreed, you can't get help if you're stubborn and don't want it
The first step is accepting there is a problem and seeking help
Some people were given very little support in their early life or were told to 'suck it up' and shown little kindness. Then the pressures of fame & fandom literally blow an underdeveloped, unsupported psyche to the four winds.
Stubbornness can come from pain too & fear of failure too.
Yes Jordan could do with some help from Ye
Yeah, maybe Ye can illuminate why all the hours jp spent droning about the bolsheviks he never once mentions the khazars or the star of remphan
@@onecowstampede9140 he is a zionist himself 😂
This touched me since i was in one church and the pastor there never seemed to tried really talking to me. He asked me once or twice how am i and it seemed to be usual conversation, but since i said i was ok he very quickly proceeded doing other things and never showed interest in my state of soul.
Since he was the pastor i thought God was on his side, and that it was my fault, cause i should be the one asking for help if needed and it is true, but then again its nice to see that someone can try to reach to person in a normal nondramatic way. Just try to talk, see whats going on. Jesus helps me to forgive those who were weak to reach for me, since it is very hard to reach to someone who has problems and is hard to open up, like i was. Im not saying this is the case with Jordan Peterson and Kanye, but something about Jordan Peterson being so ok with talking to Kanye makes me feel liberated from some of the wrong stuff i received in my heart from the time being in that church even though its generally a good church.
Generally speaking:
You wont find god in the church
I saw “touched me” and “pastor” next to each other and definitely made an assumption before actually reading lol
Pastors are generally very busy people. If you need a pastor's help, you should ask for it. I'd say pastors as a group might be more empathetic on average than the general population, but to expect one to detect your inner turmoil on the evidence of a neutral answer to "How are you" is unreasonable.
(Jesus helps me to forgive the people who were too weak to reach me) sounds a little narcissistic. From what I've gathered from religion is that you should submit to jesus or God completely, not in another person albeit a pastor a friend or even family. Only God can lead you back to yourself
@@timeforwar6312 I'm actually impressed, that's bang on 👏👏 well done
JP boutta take matters into his own hands
been did that lol
Lmbo
Make sure before you do any of that you watch ‘Europa: The Last Battle’ so you can get a little bit of background into what Ye is talking about.
In a world full of hysteria, mr Peterson is the calming influence we need, man.
He is a zionist
@@primeminister1040 go argue with someone else
@@thedude9752 stay blind
Agreed.
@@primeminister1040 I will give you a moment of Fame . Can you back up your claim . I will look fwd to your reply 😁
Oh my lawd. The interview of the year! Please make this happen.
Been waiting for the conversation for years. Two very different types of geniuses having a conversation.
Can't wait 🙂
Man this is one in a life time event!! 😂😂😂😂 Seriously, Kanye can learn so much from Jordan Peterson- he can actually treat him with his disorder and he would understand Kanye to the T. We could all learn something from that conversation when and if it happens.
Yes but lex and Piers have the elite level influence and coverage JP doesn’t. Those guys are literally media outlets whilst JP is the local psychologist everybody (the internet) loves
If Ye went to JP he would have got his point across but no one would hear about it. Kanye knows what he’s doing, true genius ♟
Also Kanye’s stature is too elite it would affect his brand and his handlers most likely won’t let him do a localised interview, nothing Ye does is small, everything has to be larger than life then leveraged on steroids and controversy
That last point “geniuses have lots of problems just like ordinary people do but they are also geniuses, yeah?, well that’s a good thing to keep in mind” that point from Jordan is genius 👏👏
Jordan Peterson who 100% chickened out of talking about what Kanye talked about, when asked directly at an event Q&A. Will be interesting to see this.
Thinking before speaking is not chickening out, you should try it.
He chickened out because the ones you cannot criticise will destroy him just like they did to Kanye, Mel Gibson and many others
@@mickeyandres2651 But thinking b4 speaking and then not saying what needs to b said is definitely chickening out.
He knows where the line is. The "globalists" don't like it when you criticize them. They move all their pieces to cancel you.
JP is team Shapiro, he just got back from Israel too. He even insinuated in this short clip that's easy to draw conspiracies when a minority is disproportionately successful. The thing is, it's not a conspiracy and they've been controlling the media and many other aspects of people's lives for a very long time. There is no way JP will back Kanye, he thinks Kanye needs help and wants to offer him some help.
1:35 "I'm planning to talk to Kanye soon, I think. . . . I'd like to find out what's going on: he's a stunningly creative person. . . . Too much of a treasure to throw in the dust bin.
Honestly it would be the interview of the year when it comes out, no question about it ! #JPKanye2022
I think Jordan's blind angle is the 'conspiratorial' one. I wish he would invite Whitney Webb and listen most carefully.
Where can I read more about this Webb person
@@adrianoss.bougas3720 UA-cam. Look up interview with Glenn Beck.
When conspiracy is deemed as ridiculous as a concept I lose allllllll trust in the speaker
He had me in the first half 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I enjoyed the Lex and Ye interview immensely. This would also be super interesting.
This will be a great interview. Actually sitting down and have a conversation instead of just jumping to an extreme. That’s why JP is the goat.
someone please tell Dr.peterson the chance of a convo with Ye THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS Kanye would most definitely rise by calling him by his preferred/real/new name REAL TALK
J P is like everyone's wise uncle, he'll just sit you down and be like " what's up buddy? Looking a little down".
Yay for ye!! A discussion with Ye is always something I’d love to hear. He is brilliant and has so much more to offer if people would actually listen instead of assume what he’s saying and trying to put him in a box.
I’d love to see more people like you who can actually see his power, rather than seeing the misunderstandings and confusion lead by the media.
Peterson values money over truth and integrity that's why he will never go full kanye and address the core of today's issues. He'd rather capitalize on false hope and snake oil
Yes JP!!!! I’ve been waiting for this!!! Thank you!!!!! Wisdom and more wisdom!! Next I’d love to see you interview the amazing Dr. Caroline Leaf and Dr. Bruce Lipton!!!!! Thank you!! I can’t wait!!!
Kanye woke up to the truth
Fax
Yes
They're attacking Kanye & crying foul at the same time...
@@venividivici6418 They always cry out in pain as they strike you.
The only truth he woke up to was that Jews are smart, so what?
This is gaslighting to an unbelievable degree. Watch Europa THE Last Battle
when, because we are still waiting
Yes!!! I love how Jordan thinks and tries to understand individuals. I was hoping he would talk to Kanye this will be great. Great minds evolving.
I need this to happen. The world needs this.
Both Chinese and Indians are highly successful minorities and they do not receive the same response. And the response the Jewish people receive has been consistent across vast reaches of space and time. To suggest it has nothing to do with their own bad behaviour is frankly absurd.
They are successful, but not nearly as successful as Jews. Look at how many Nobel prize winners, chess champions, millionaires, and fields medal winners are Jewish. Now contrast that with Chinese and Indians. You can blame it on bad behavior or just accept reality - Jews are more successful. Blaming it on bad behavior is frankly, idiotic. But by all means, keep being antisemitic.
Chinese and Indians are more new to USA. Once they are more established, the hate will start.
The difference is that the Chinese and Indian communities are not overt.
Something tells me this talk wont happen
i hope it does
I wish it would. Maybe in private, though. As much as I would love to hear Jordan Peterson’s advice to Kanye, I think that in order to really get the help he needs Kanye needs to see Jordan Peterson privately as a patient seeing a psychologist, not in public as a performative interview.
damn they got jp too.
He's consistent.
OY VEY
Find another place to sully you evil coward
That would be an interesting interview as Peterson is a psychologist and Kanye struggles with bi-polar. Surely, Peterson picks up on Kanye's struggles and how he would navigate that interview would be interesting.
Holy hell, PLEASE make this happen.
Dr. Peterson understands what we all already know who has a head on our shoulders ...Kanye IS FAR FROM CRAZY...Kanye is absolutely a creative Genius. This is coming from someone who doesn't even enjoy the type of music and fashion he creates...but if you do respect and see the visionary pieces that he is influencing the world, not taken from the world, you see he is quite special. Very very special.
Much respect for both of you gentlemen, thanks for the video and your time!
Lol thank you for clarifying that😂
I thought so, but this was my first time watching you😂
Did JP just placed Kayne West in genius category? Whether he meant it or not? I want to see this interview. Great PR
He is objectively genius in music industry. Man knows how people listen to music or what kind of music people would be interested in listening at least a half decade before everyone. He revolutionized the industry multiple times. And sold yeezy successfully. You give yeezy to someone else and ask them to sell it, nobody would even consider buying it. Kanye sold yeezies.
It’s not just maths and science……he is a creative person.
It's a fact. And history is littered with contrarian genius. Ye is a man of this time, peel back the layers.
lmfao a simpleton giving the greatest creative mind in human history a title
Looking forward to hearing Dr. Peterson interview Kanye. I think that'll be interesting as heck!
Fix Kanye for us if you dont mind Dr. Peterson, after all he did make Graduation
Jordan Peterson has changed my life for the better and I’ll never be able to show how thankful I am
I would love for Jordan to talk to Kanye! I promise Jordan is needed he has said some powerful things that have changed my life.
"YOU AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS JORDAN, YOU AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS" -Ye
I love it when I see Schulz get interrupted or spoken over, which is rare.😆
the last part is a good thing to keep in mind, though i'm not sure i understand Ye's "genius" status he just seems to me like a regular talented person like other talented persons but i don't know enough about him
It will be a long time before the average person realises Ye is a genius.
His background is likely not what you think. Unconstrained creative intelligence is typically a burden to the person, and those around them. The Rap thing was his calling card.
"Our fellow Whites are noticing, better send out Peterstein again to give them another lecture on how they're all just individuals and not part of a collective like us."
Did you just say Peterson is Jewish? Lmao.
@@jbayne91jb No I was using a popular meme used to highlight that he's married to one, works for them, is heavily promoted by them and gatekeeps for them. Is this your first day on the internet?
@@noogate2672 you do know there are only like 14 million jews left in the world right? Not everyone is a jew lmao. Its funny when people think jews are everywhere. They are technically "endangered species" at this point
This is just another proof of JP value, hopefully he can be a good influence in Kanye's life right now.
I feel like Jewish people look down on anyone that is not Jewish. Huge generalisation I know but it’s my experience of living in a predominantly Jewish area in London. I have nothing against Jewish people
You start to understand,they are extremely narcissitics.
Mr. Peterson, God is my savior, but so are YOU!!!! See I t’s not only the young males that love you, us young women love you too!! Although I’m not soo young! I’m 57 in an 18 yo mind, in a 90 yo body!! You’re soo awesome!! You’re like our dad!! Taking care of our people!! Like Ye!! When you come to the rescue, I always feel better about everything!! I want to bake you an apple pie to thank you for being here for us!!
Certainly Jordan Peterson, who just had dinner with Ben Shapiro and Bibi Netanyahu, will be able to convince Kanye that there's no Jewish conspiracy.
Hahaha
I agree Kanye is too much of a treasure to just be "canceled" & tossed aside... respect to Jordan Peterson for recognizing this👍🏽
I'm actually gonna buy popcorn this time and label it "Kanye and Jordan" .....😂
i would pay to watch Jordan Peterson and Kanye have a conversation, especially after the recent events
Love Jordan but he took an L on the conspiracy, Kanye West literally showed the statistics of Jewish owned Media companies.
It very suspect I'll say.
The greatest interview ever is about to happen
Where do I find the full video?
bro, you have 4 million subs and don't know to look in the video description? 😭😭😭
JBP talking with Kanye will be very interesting. Though, I would just as well love to see Jonathan Pageau speak with Kanye.
Wow, isn't this an amazing moment to be in the same timeline as DR JP and our collective consciousness ? So exciting !
Dammit now I have to start a JP and Ye countdown clock. Can't wait.
Thank God this is going to happen
My life’s been leading up to the moment Kanye and JBP talk 🥲
What is the subtext here? Isn't being intelligent and "successful" more likely to actually conspire over the "less successful"? Is that not possible and we should just dismiss the notion? (Note, I don't know much about the actual facts here, so maybe he's right in this case but still, shouldn't generalize). Then he implies he knows more than Kanye (again, maybe he does) but he will talk to him to straighten him out, after all he's a genius and genius - like ordinary men - have issues. All geniuses are equal but some are more equal than others.
I’ll be waiting for that interview!!! Just you JP!!
I'm jealous. I want to hang out with Ye and JP.
I hope their conversation is private. I'd be happy to hear what either would like to share afterward, but I'm hoping Ye gets real help, not just another moment to be a spectacle.
The Jewish people are especially good in area where there is alot of talking like Law, politics, Business , media. So he‘s not actually wrong with some facts. I hope you‘ll adress that
And physics, mathematics, chemistry…..
And subverting and undermining their hosts.
@@noogate2672 top comment
"You can be sure the Young Turks are goint to clip that out". I bet anything that if JP didn't call that out then they definitely wouldn't done it.
The fact that Jordan Peterson called Kanye a genius is another example of how devalued that word has become. Every one who is the slightest bit talented or creative is a fucking genius, ha. Comedic genius, musical genius, skate-boarding genius, business genius. Yes, such a meaningless word now.
The College Dropout was a pretty revolutionary album in rap / hip-hop genre when it first came out. Then he did it again with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (which is widely considered his greatest album). And he produced these albums by himself.
Thank you.
@@Dsksea He’s good at what he does, that doesn’t make him a genius.
I would watch/listen to a podcast of that duo!
Imagine not thinking successful Jewish people conspire with one another to keep the top of major industries in their community.
this would be a great conversations! im waiting for it!
Kayne is right
Freaking love that Schulz save, and the mock on what people who love to demonize would, and will do.
interesting part. i've noticed nervous or fake laugh and conflictogenic gestures from side of Andrew. seems to me he did not enjoy hearing those ideas. though JBP as always stuns me with his ability to conduct profound analysis and wanting to understand rather then just labeling.
I think JP should talk to kanye but not for the sake of social media but to really help Kanye and make his mind clear
One specific minority group that owns a majority of the influence and wealth, not just in America but the whole world, is a pretty fair cause for concern and conspiracy
I think jordan is trying to say in the end that people need to be able to separate the genius of a person from the flaws, just because a person has personal issues like we all do it doesn't invalidate the contribution they can make or have made to society as great minds.
So, JP isn't ok with the JQ. Got it.
Ye is the goat. I am so happy that Jordan was not disrespectful. I also disagree with what Ye said on Jews, but he DID make my favorite albums, and he IS a genius.
Kanye was right.
I'm sure this has nothing to do with JBP's entire talent agency being Jewish and them having the power to decide what direction his context takes and that he will never answer the question he was once asked about Solzhenitsyn's "200 years together"
The problem is that Kanye is correct but struggles to articulate, whereas Jordan is incorrect but can easily articulate.
Exactly
I wish I could be there just to observe & retain the information