The Odds of Any NHL Team Being Moved, Quick Look
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2017
- There is always speculation on teams getting moved and yet very few are likely to even reach the negotiating stage. I take a quick gander at the board and go over who is currently in that conversation.
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None of the Original Six will move.
Ever.
And they shouldn't.
how do you prove a future?
Ed F booboo it was more like the original 6 stable, successful teams that helped shape the modern nhl.
Yeah if the Red Wings haven't moved at this point it's impossible
I know he put Toronto in SECOND and Montreal the team with the most Stanley cups in FIFTH
This man just got into Canadian monetary policy to talk about hockey, we don't deserve him
How does this guy not have a spot on the NHL network? He KNOWS Hockey. Keep up the great work.
It is saturated enough, he is doing fine on youtube.
More like how doesnt the nhl network have a spot on this channel :D
Old boys club. Shanney isn't part of it. Too bad
I can't wait for the next expansion team to be in madagascar.
Graviteh LOL 😂
Madagascar right after Beiging and Shanghai.
Bettman likes the desert. How about a team in the Sahara?
How about a team in the Maldives as well?
Graviteh well move the the Pittsburg penguins to Madagascar and then they’ll be the penguins of Madagascar boom millions in revenue
Worst part about American/Canadian sports is that moving teams in so common and fans end up speculating about which group "deserves" a team and which doesn't.
there should be relegation
@@mezutzizuthere isn’t enough money fans or support
THG’s most popular video, 6 years later, here is the move we’ve all been waiting for.
Yep, and judging from the comments I've read here, it's to a city that wasn't on the radar. I like that.
Can you do a updated video of this?
I think the NHL should move the Coyotes to Iraq
I agree. They should also move some teams to Syria,Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia or Somalia.
To hard for travel
NHL 77 Nahhhhh
Just bring back the Concorde and we're all set.
no
Hello 2024 arizona-utah
No way the Bruins are ever getting moved, same with the Canadians
John Frank canadiens*
None of the original 6 will ever get moved
it's almost an hour drive from where I live in North Phoenix. That's the issue with the Canes and the Panthers too, they build a Arena in the Suburbs and expect people to drive out there. And there is no mass transit to get there, you are forced to drive. Arenas are Centralized locations they need to be placed in Urban area if they are going to be successful.
CJ The Canes are about a mile out of the city of Raleigh. Their problem with attracting fans is that Raleigh isn’t a good pro sports city, it’s all about college sports. They really need to move the Canes to Charlotte. There they’ll have a centralized arena, tons of possible season ticket holders due to all the businesses in Charlotte, and they’ll do a lot better. But for whatever reason, they want to stay in Raleigh.
WolfGator Entertainment Isn’t their arena right next to the NC state football stadium and campus ?
And west gate is a fucking joke, and the parking is hell
Exactly the only way the panthers can draw ppl in the crowd is by doing good. They need to move to Miami or anywhere in Florida that will get fans in the arena. I don’t want them to relocate where they won’t be the Florida panthers anymore
It's better than an hour from San Francisco to the Shark Tank ... even longer on the Bayshore ... of course it helps that the rural community where the Shark Tank was built has a larger population than San Francisco ... but don't confuse the issue with facts I always say ...
You've come a long way Shannon,from a corner then to a whole room now...congrats.
I can see the Panthers moving north to around the West Palm Beach area. The area of West Palm Beach was ranked 10th in the nation when it came to Stanley Cup Final viewership. There's no reason the team couldn't be successful there. I however do not see the Panthers moving anywhere out of Florida.
Fus Joe Dah FINALLY someone gets it
Fus Joe Dah I would love that because I go to my Uncle's house when it's summer, Thanksgiving, or Christmas break and it's in Port St. Lucie so it's not too far from West Palm Beach. I would probably go to more games with my Dad if they did that.
Don't worry, maybe someday you'll see them. There's so many things I wish that I can do that other people have/done before. I do feel like I live a good lufe, but I'm not perfect. Just keep believing and someday you'll see your team. :)
Compulsive Liar Just wait till the Jets play the Canucks. I'm also in BC and I'm gonna go see my Leafs play when they visit Vancouver.
Ziggmanster Yeah, that's what I did with Pittsburgh Penguins(my team).
"Quebec has the arena in planning" Nope, it's already built, and it is NHL ready.
ikr, do your research hockey guy
plus the owners didnt back out at all, quebecor are ready right now to take ownership, literally everything is set. the only thing stopping the coyotes from being shipped to qc is bettman’s pan american hockey growth fantasies.
Dr. Disco what is the biggest difference between Tampa and Arizona. Tampa is a solid team that is in the playoffs every year and Arizona hasn’t been since 2011. I guarantee you that if Arizona was going every year and Tampa was lousy every year people would say hockey doesn’t work in Tampa. I blame Arizona’s management especially previous management not the fans.
Brandon Tampa is perfectly fine compared to cities like Dallas
Nate S I’m not a Dallas fan I think they have the worst logo and jersey in the league, but other than that what is wrong with Dallas?
Paying homage to our fallen Arizonan bretheren
Looks like you were right, Gary Bettman gave you the plan all those years ago.
The reason Carolina hasn't had much fan support is because they've been so bad over the years. And that honestly happens with every struggling fan base look at the hawks attendance before Kane and toews or the penguins before Crosby and Malkin. But I really think with the canes on the rise more fans will come out to support.
I definitely think so. The blackhawks were 29th in attendance in 2006. Then they drafted Kane and toews and 2 years later they jumped all the way up to first. Success definitely correlates with fan attendance. Once the canes start having success again (and I think they will) their attendance will go up it's just a fact.
Danny MTZ 2006
Carolina had a winning record. They are not a terrible team. Colorado is a terrible team and is going to be terrible for a while. I doubt that they will go anywhere close to the 11K mark.
I would get having the worst attendence in the league and being the absolute worst or a team that isn't even trying to win... But a team with a winning record???? The Whalers moved because they didn't have attendance and Carolina will follow suit it's a mater of time and time is running out especially with new ownerships that dropped half a billion dollars on a team.
It literally took a lockout and 9 out of 10 seasons of under 500 hockey for the Blackhawks to have less than 12k...
Gabriel Matte Carolina have the longest playoff drought in the NHL. The outlook was always grim before this year. It takes time to bring fans back, and real success - aka playoffs
CaniacManiac30 Not really, Canucks are a bottom team but we finished 11th overall in attendance. Some fans are more committed than others
Update it was Arizona Coyotes
Great video but minor correction: Quebec's arena has been open a few years now hosting the Remparts.
Hawaii needs a hockey team. lolololololololololololol
Stefan Moreno no no no, Africa needs a team
Stefan Moreno HONNNNNNNNALULUUUUUUUY
Stefan Moreno Alaska
Add Alaska too!
Legends Never Die that would suck traveling that long from like Alaska to Florida lol
Interesting to see a 2021 update on this topic-with the Islanders apparently moving, but to the new arena near Belmont Park, plus the new Seattle team.
And now Arizona in their college arena deal with Arizona State University in Tempe. That second one is a real farce why have a team play in a college arena for multiple seasons when Quebec has a ready made NHL facility and fans who aren't actively annoyed with ownership.
I doubt it's the Canadian dollar that's stopping more Canadian teams it's Gary Bettman
Montagne : you could hear Bettman crying after Atlanta failed. Again. Seriously why go to Atlanta again? it failed before and now we have Calgary. Those who do not heed history are doomed to repeat it.
prime mcmanus so going to Atlanta a second time was a mistake. So going back to Winnipeg and expanding/relocating to QC, KC or Hartford is a stupid idea too?????
Jake Patterson those are proven hockey markets Atlanta was not and as shown with the thrashers Atlanta doesn't give any fucks about Hockey. If the Thrashers had been good early, they may have stayed
prime mcmanus KC was a good hockey market? As in Kansas City? The Scouts had 2 abysmal seasons and they haven't played since
Leon Hoekstra Ok, true, true.
The NHL should look at an expansion Seattle/Portland. That would even out the conferences 8/8/8/8.
There would also be some great rivalries with Vancouver and Calgary.
Funny you should mention that...
Hehe you’re right
Ummmm hello?
KC guy and I am not sure if NHL will work here. The arena exists but you don't even hear a blip about hockey on any Sports radio. Even during the NHL playoffs. You will struggle to even find a hat at Lids.
You think you could find Columbus blue jackets hats in Vegas before they got a team? It’s the franchise that brings in new fans, not preexisting fans getting a hometown team
Thank you for being a sane, and realistic hockey fan. It's a reason why I've subscribed to you.
I would love to see Arizona move to Seattle IF they can't get arena for them in Phoenix. You also hit an important point when people debate about Quebec and their 'team'
Quebec backed out in the Atlanta situation and they've been propping up people's hopes for nothing. They'll get a team, but it won't be for a long time. Seattle will get one first
Please Seattle make a new arena.
jed pad Seattle has an arena but I think it's too small for the NHL and their standards
I live near Seattle just outside of it and have been in the arena you're probably talking about. I'm guessing the Key arena. Its old crap and would need to be renovated for any sports team to play there. Which sucks..
jed pad there is a group that was just made led by Tim Leiweke to either renovate KeyArena or find a location to build a new one
If an arena is to be built in Seattle or Quebec it will be at the cost of the owners. It might even be worth it for them to build one.
I would see KC be a viable location as well being better than AZ but worst than both Quebec and Seattle and Hamilton... If you want to put that one on the mix which will NEVER happen.
Florida Panthers should move to Miami proper. Because *nobody* goes to their games.
They were in Miami proper - they kept getting bumped by Heat games and the city never put together another venue.
@@GigglingKat Then why couldn't the Heat just play on the Road?
@@GigglingKat Or the Panthers play an away game
That’s a shame because they have a beautiful stadium.
Stumbled upon your videos a few days ago. Great stuff! Keep it up. Subscribed!
Totally agree with you. PPG paints arena opened 7 years ago and for all the money it costs to build other than the Penguins and maybe 10 concerts it has only a few other minor events
The NHL could always go to a conference format like the MLB and NFL use. A national conference and youd have to come up with another name for the other conference. But that should take care of the whole East vs West inbalance issue
The next expansion team is going to be Bettmans present to the fans after the next lockout.
Man the talk about about the Canadian Dollar doing well and potentially getting better did not age well
Just found your page from Steve Dangle page that does the leafs. Agree 100% about stadium financing. Actually did my senior thesis on the topic. I will be a new subscriber and I look forward to hearing more of your thoughts.
Did y'all know that the NBA Indiana Pacers and the City of Indianapolis, Indiana actually tore the NBA arena Gainbridge Fieldhouse apart on the inside and redid the seating so Indianapolis can try to attract an NHL Team to play in the arena next to the NBA Pacers? Interesting that this happened since Indianapolis might not get an NHL Team.
Arizona to Milwaukee, put them in the Central so when Seattle gets the expansion team, you have 8 in the central and 8 in the pacific
That's happening anyway.
You inspired me most to make my channel. Hockey talk is one of my hobbies. Thank you...
Barclays is a great building for basketball and concerts though.
ShantyIrishman it sucks for hockey I've been there a few times for isles games. The travel is a pain and they need to come back to the island were they belong.
Well I'm four G train stops away, so travel isn't a problem for me. I think the Belmont arena is happening.
ShantyIrishman it sucks for hockey, half the seats have obstructive views
Shawn 91 Queens * look it up they are doing a huge development
+Shawn 91 Bhwawa, I doubt you could afford the rent in Prospect Heights, not remotely sketchy, no less crime than in Hempstead.
Canada needs two more teams, or three,
@@peanutbuttercstarz6431 why not
Quebec city and Mississauga need teams
@@brycevogt9669 Eh hello HAMILTON.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. I think the oilers/leafs will be VERY strong next season and as a pens fan, if the pens don't make it I would like nothing more than to see a canadian team take the cup
Wisconsin needs a NHL team
Cullen King i agree because i moved to Wisconsin from Minnesota about a year ago and i had to pick between the blackhawks and the wild
Canada needs another 2-3 teams. Relocate Phoenix and Florida to Quebec and Hamilton and give the 32nd expansion to Halifax
no
Canadian Indy as a Hamilton resident I can see why you say move a team here. Problem is you have buffalo and Toronto within the same driving distance roughly. Those gms don't want a Hamilton team because it will drag their profit margin down. Hockey is very much alive in Hamilton though. The ohl team seems to be bringing in fans but that's because they win unlike the bulldogs when they were an ahl team.
Cking0 7 I agree 100%
And now Tampa Bay sold more tickets than any other team in the 2021-22 season. They ain’t going anywhere
Really love your videos
Crazy to think that the penguins were once ready to move just over a decade ago.
I remember that, the Penguins were on life support, and Mario came in and saved the day, with buying the team and drafted great, hence Syd the Kid, and plenty more and won some Stanley Cups including beating my Redwings in game 7 at the Joe!
Todd Hill I mean it was a no brained
The NHL fixed the Crosby lottery to sway the vote and keep the pens in Pittsburgh marketing wise its their version of the steelers
Not sure how it works in Canada. I was at one of the first Capitals games in Landover, MD. There was nothing there and they were on edge of collapse. Where the Capitol One Arena is was a total toilet, it is now a happening area producing revenue even when there are no events. Similar thing happened in Baltimore with the Orioles stadium. These aren't revenues that went to the owners.
New camera is great
Great video, I like it and I agree with a lot of what you said.
I feel these cities should get an NHL team:
-Quebec City
-Seattle
-Halifax
-Saskatoon
-Milwaukee
-Kansas City
Do you agree with this?
2021 Seattle kraken!
GTA could support another Team Hamilton or Cambridge/ Kitchener / Waterloo
Halifax would be nice too.
@@abbnation4630 Dude, that would be BAD. Hamilton getting an NHL team, that would be the worst decision in NHL history
@@abbnation4630 you say kitchener before london...
Arizona to Saskatoon
Not a terrible idea the proven success of Edmonton Rush moving to Sask was an instant hit. People in Saskatchewan would pay to watch paint dry.
Thanks for being realistic, and I have 2 quick comments:
1. Barclays Center is nice, but you are correct about it not being hockey friendly. I paid $60 per seat for row 4 on the goal line, and my view of the other goal was there, but the faceoff circle on the opposite end was completely cut off. The Islanders were promoting their "partial plans" where some games are back at the coliseum and some at barclays for next year.
2. Houston should get a hockey team. If arizona can't get people in the seats, Houston will. 4th largest city in the USA, with many people relocated here for work from the northern us or Canada, along with support of locals should be able to fill the arena.
Hey dad, I like this camera angle. Arizona and Florida need to move for sure. You should do a video on how new NHL arena's get built or just how you think the whole process should be instead.
Really interesting to look at this years later. The East/West balance and reluctance to move anything to Canada still exist.
Yep
and the yotes are still unsettled
Its safe to say the Lightning are not going anywhere
51k views? Awesome.
Much more than the usual. Nice going!
Hey Shannon, watching this in 2022, was wondering if you'd do a new version.
I can't see anyone moving. Makes no sense. Everything would get screwed up IMO. I would like to see Seattle get a team if they would just build a damn stadium. Seattle native here.. I just really want a NHL team ugh.
jed pad One day
jed pad it would make more sense to bring in another expansion team in maybe 2-3 years but it would probably be a team more to the east
Lil Link probably not. The NHL wants a balance between the east and west. Putting an expansion team in Seattle would make it an even 16 teams in both conferences.
The NHL should focus on getting another team in the Central Division. There will most likely be a Houston, Kansas City, or Milwaukee team in the future.
jed pad you are i.n ecotopia cant build shit
I can tell you one team that aint moving anywhere anytime soon. Tampa bay, nuff said!!!
Attendance is second in revenue. The number one revenue is broadcast fees. I'm curious if Quebec City can get a better broadcast deal than Ariz or Fl now have? We already know this Canadian city will likely have no problem withe attendance.
I would see that kind of possible scenarios
Move Arizona Coyotes to Houston (bring back to old Aeros) or Kansas City.
Move a team in danger, Ottawa Senators or Carolina Hurricanes or Florida Panthers to Quebec City in brand new Videotron Center.
With an expansion in Seattle, both conferences balance again.
where can i get a set of nhl magnets like those?
I believe he makes his own magnets from NHL-logo-stickers.
I say either Wisconsin, KC, or Seattle gets an expansion team WIS or KC would balance the central out with the rest of the NHL if they give a team to Seattle it'd push a team probably Vegas into the central so most likely it'd be Wisconsin to get an expansion that's the most reasonable to me anyways
Bradlee Carney Chicago owns TV rights in WI, they would have to give up revenue to get a team in WI and would lose too much. WI will never happen
Bradlee Carney KC had a team (Scouts) and it flopped
Yeah, 40 fucking years ago. Colorado flopped too and they got a second chance.
If they're going to push any team into central it should be Arizona
KC guy and there is almost zero hockey culture here among the general population. It is mostly a niche sport for those of us who grew up in other hockey markets and moved here.
I just subscribed,,great channel
I think you should revisit this discussion Shannon, with Vegas and Seattle being in the picture now the argument with Quebec is very possible.
Coyotes need to move to Phoenix or even Scottsdale. That stadium is out in the middle of nowhere, and the big money the hockey team needs is in the east Valley not the west Valley
Bryan G yep it's almost an hour drive from where I live in North Phoenix. That's the issue with the Canes and the Panthers too, they build a Arena in the Suburbs and expect people to drive out there. And there is no mass transit to get there, you are forced to drive. Arenas are Centralized locations they need to be placed in Urban area if they are going to be successful
CJ even when I lived downtown I hated going out that way unless it was a weekend game. It's such a stupid place for a stadium because for anyone on the East valley to get over there they either have to take the 10 through downtown (which that can take you an hour to drive 5 miles on a weekday) or take the 101 clear around. While yea that's a problem the other way too... The East valley has the money and downtown would be nice and neutral (and if they could use the Suns stadium you already have a really good stadium, albeit for the wrong sport)
the coyotes are moving to tempe bruh
Andrew hopefully that might be true but no stadium has been finalized the last I saw and I don't know where in Tempe you build it as the whole city is basically full. ASU might make sense and share it with the basketball team but they backed out of that (and it really would have been a huge college b-ball arena).
yeah i go to asu and i hope they come around bc the wells fargo arena is a bit cramped lol
As long as another corporate entity doesn't take ownership of the Blues like Ralston-Purina did, there's next to no chance the Blues move. Now that they've hoisted Lord Stanley, that chance just greatly diminished. Given St Louis is now only a two sport town, we'll continue supporting the Blues even if they never again make the playoffs.
Quebec just won't get a team until Seattle does. The conferences will have to balance before that is even a possibility (like you said in the video). Seattle IMO is at least another decade away from team so Nordiques fans better not hold their breath.
Idk the NHL probably wants an even number of teams, I say they expand to Seattle in up to 5 years tops
Yup and get $550m in expansion fees. The more teams, the more the price goes up.
Drew Hart I don't think the NHL wants to keep an imbalanced 31 team system. I can bet within the next year or two we start to hear some serious talk about it. I think we will see a team there within the next 5 years
Dividing the league into West and East is stupid in itself as many "West" teams are clearly on the east side. Should focus on divisions instead not this stupid conference format. It's a bad system that doesn't deserve defending.
Dark Magician everything makes sense when it's set up as conference style sometimes there are very good teams that don't make the playoffs because of the other teams in the other division are shit I don't know about you but I like it way better when the top eight teams from there respective conferences make it if it was still like that the Montreal Canadians would be a bottom tear playoff team because half of the metro would be better than them
4:35 aaaand flashbacks of 2007 come to mind; when Jim Bausillie (the Co CEO of Blackberry at the time) tried to buy the team from Craig Leipold and move them to Hamilton; and Predators fans made a resounding "OH HELL NO" and the current owner consortium Predators Holdings LLC was formed by Nashville business owners wanting to keep the predators where they were. and last year's epic Cup run has pretty much cemented the fact that the Preds will NEVER EVER leave Smashville, and because we have the reputation of the best fans in the league.
You mentioned Cincinnati had problems with arenas but I live there and we don't. US Bank arena hosts ECHL team Cincinnati cyclones as well as concerts and shows and lots of stuff and there's the reds and bengals stadiums and that's it. I don't see a big problem as only the reds dont draw too many fans
Horton and that's because they're awful, I don't see a team ever coming here, even with our upgraded stadium in the upcoming years due to the team in Columbus
FalloutKills101 1 yea Cincinnati will never get a hockey team. The only chance is if fc Cincinnati continues to prove that Cincinnati has a market for sports and even if that happens it's super unlikely
Unfortunately with FCC I feel like the hype for it will die down and no one will go
Horton I think having US Bank arena and GABP next to each other isn't a good idea if Cincy wants an NHL team. Which they might not even get close to
That's the problem all your teams suck in Cincinnati
o7 Yotes
If they move the Coyotes, it will be to the Central, not to Quebec. You are right about the imbalance and draw a good point on Detroit and Columbus.
It would be a damn shame to move a team with a history of a dynasty such as the Islanders.
Great job! You should do a top 50 players after the playoffs! I’m curious in what you think after this season
I miss when thg mismatched hats and jerseys!
How about Seattle? They're trying to build an arena to attract nba and nhl... I'd love to see the NHL in Seattle. I could finally go to Flyer games.
T. Rose That's gonna be an expansion team. NHL wants that sweet expansion money.
The NHL is coming to Seattle soon!
Good news
Actually Quebec does have a NHL arena, and trust me when I say it looks good. I don't know about ownership, but the arena is definitely there. It's called CentreVideo, ps I am loving these offseason vids, keep it up
Arizona is done!
Love to see Houston get a team
I wish Atlanta still had a team.
Hockey just doesn’t work in Atlanta
They did twice 😐
With Bettman celebrating his 25th anniversary as Commissioner. It would be great to get your thoughts on how much longer he will remain commissioner. When he could leave and what the league should look for in his successor.
What’s the question mark in the central for?
Expansion is more likely than relocation. But who gets the next franchise? Kansas City? Seattle? Oklahoma City?
john sobery Milwaukee
john sobery Seattle
john sobery Seattle will
Yeah I think just one more Expansion
john sobery Seattle
Canes fan here - obviously we've been ugly attendance wise recently, but the downtrend only started in 2015. We were averaging 15k+ before the 2015-2016 season. It's easy to lose fans when you go on a playoff drought for nearly a decade. The Canes also have a BIG tv market with fox sports carolinas/south/southeast. They have N/S Carolina, parts of the Atlanta market, and I even saw them on tv in East TN this year, so they apparently share part of that territory with the Preds. Curious what their ratings are since they've been so unattractive to the casual viewer, but the potential is there, and they've been a solid ratings team in the past.
Dustin Boffo I live in Raleigh as well, season ticket holder for the Canes. While I'm not a Canes fan in particular, I still go to watch the other teams. The team has definitely seen better days, they used to almost sell out every game before their big drought. The market and interest is there, especially with how fast Raleigh is growing, it's just that when you have a bad product on the ice for a long time, no ones going to watch it. I'm confident the Canes will have better attendance this season since it looks like they may be playoff bound for the first time in a while.
Hockey Dan lol, why waste your money?
I live in an area that gets both the Preds and Canes. I gravitated towards the Preds once Atlanta left so it's kinda annoying if both have a game the same night and it's the Canes that are on instead of the Preds.
Didn't Quebec just build a new arena a few years ago? Videotron Centre?
You make solid points
BRING A TEAM TO HOUSTON TX. Aeros when they were in houston had top attendance for minor league. The dough rocket owner is selling so new owners might be open to sharing Toyota center
And a history in the old W.H.A.. Winnipeg fans would love to greet a team from Houston as well as Quebec,
Tillman is selling the Rockets? Or is he the new owner?
I hope that one day that Cleveland gets a NHL team! My Redwings will never leave Detroit/Hockeytown!
They had one
Bring back the Barons
The Barons were there 76 to 78 but that wasn't an NHL team(Haha)
I don't see Carolina moving anytime soon now. With how they have been since this video was put out has been extremely positive. Glad to hear that as a long term Canes fan.
You need to update your Islander news. I am in NJ and the Islanders are selling seasons tix on sale with priority seating in the UBS Arena on Long Island. This will be the newest arena in the NHL.
The Penguins fan attendance before Lemieux, Crosby and Malkin was 👎
iAJAXBEATZ Ha! Lemiux saved the team twice! Talk about fairweather fans
Pittsburgh is consistently among the largest tv audiences out of the american markets. Even during the lean years; they still pulled in good tv ratings. Pittsburgh is a good hockey market. It is pretty common to see numbers drop off when a team looks like it is about to abandon a city. Not really indicative of much, almost all teams go through lean years in any sport.
adam b
Keep trying man. Eventually you might find a legitimate excuse for the Pens fans to have 0 loyalty.
I am not a pens fan, just not a jealous hater. I don't like the Sabres either, but i'll give their fan base credit for good tv numbers as well. I also don't think hawks fans are bad fans because their fans were non-existent for a period of time.
Pittsburgh was 4th in attendance last year even though they are one of smaller markets in the league and were at the top in ratings last year. Why don't you start to pick a new target like Nashville who was 20th in attendance last year even with a Stanley Cup caliber team. The NHL needs the Penguins and Pittsburgh. That's facts.
Don't think they'll move Carolina anytime soon. Raleigh is an emerging market and is on pace to become a top 10 market in the United States in the next ten years. If anything, I think they'll move them to Charlotte to try and draw in the South Carolina market like the NFL and NBA did. Carolina just needs a winning team again and attendance will be back in the middle of the pack.
They only drew 7900 fans to their latest game though. That is pretty brutal. I agree they won't move, but that kind of number won't silence fans pushing for it.
Agreed, but before the diabolical playoffless run they've been on these last 7 or 8 years I think they were somewhat in the middle of the pack. Fans around the country will make some noise about moving but I don't think it'll happen, especially given Raleigh and the Triangle's emergence. As Carolina makes some noise I think they'll establish a new core of fans and stay in the area for at least 10 more years.
I agree. They should move them to Charlotte.
As a resident of NE South Carolina the drive to Charlotte would be much more appealing than Raleigh. Also, the residents around Columbia would be more attracted too. Here in Myrtle Beach they’re trying to build a rink mainly for the Coastal Carolina club team but also so many northerners are moving to the Carolinas(me for example) I could see more fans attending in Charlotte
Seattle? 6:11. Predicted it!
Dude the videotron center in quebec is ready since september 2015, only the home team nhl locker room isnt built because there is no team
Tampa being moved.... lol Nope not anymore
Seattle is 16 for west that make it even
Why is there a qustion mark in place for chicago?
I would love to see Arizona move to Portland or Memphis cause both those places have taken well to their teams
holy crap are we getting moved?
EDIT: I'm drinking warm grape juice, it tastes bad
I don't want to see a current team moving to Quebec, I want them to get a fresh start with an expansion team but bring back the Nordiques name and similar logo. Though, that's going to take a while after Vegas, I guess.
cashtheyen Dividing the league into West and East is stupid, many "West" teams are clearly on the east side. Should focus on divisions instead not this stupid conference format.
The only real western team that could be considered in the eastern part of the country is Nashville since it sits in the southeast. Chicago, St.Louis, Minnesota aren't really in the eastern portion of the nation.
Came back on this video in light of the Arizona move.
So the ducks actually just re signed for the next 25 years with the city, they made a deal with the angels as well and both stadiums are being connected to the train better and they are making an entire shopping center around the train as well. For those that don't know the train is right in between both teams and about 0.2 miles from the entrance to the stadiums. Entrance to entrance it is only about 0.5 miles. This is suppose to cost around 7-10 billion dollars and I believe they said both team renewed the contracts for the next 20-25 years.
I would like to see a team in Milwaukee
Dynamo IG for my money I think an expansion team in Milwaukee makes the most sense. Maybe you put one in Seattle and move Vegas to the central division but for me Milwaukee makes the most sense
Milwaukee has an AHL team anyway. No need, they aren't a 1 million pop city and have the Wild and Hawks and even Blues.
Also the bucks would likely be FOR it since they can lease the building and offset maintenance costs and other measures to improve their franchise.
Dynamo IG they need a new arena. Look at how old the arena is where the Bucks play.
cashtheyen I agree with that too, way to close to Chicago
Dynamo IG yes so I can go to hawks games and not spend $300 for tickets
Why is New Jersey a question mark on the board?
Newark is not the place to put a hockey team. It's a black hole for hockey in a sanctuary city. They need a new location. Maybe move to Kansas City.
I know this vid is 2 years old now but Ottawa is definitely the best candidate to be move to Québec. And Québec now has it's state of the art arena ready. Personnally, i think it's just a matter of time.
I was thinking if the wings would ever move from det... 0 chance i can think off u think the wings would be screaming and kicking if they had to go back to the west, imagine what detroit and michigan would do u try and move our hockey team