The Heck is Hydrapple!? 🍎🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉
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Hydrapple is an amazing Pokemon. But what is Hydrapple based on? Much more than simply a Hydra! Join me as I explain its potential origins as a multi-cultural mythical serpent! What is Hydrapple based on? Why is Hydrapple in Unova?
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00:00 Evolve Dipplin
01:00 Zenmarket
02:00 What is Hydrapple?
04:18 Connecting Hydrapple to Unova
07:44 Is Hydrapple Paldean?
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FIRST?
@@V_Phyrox_V damn you! i wanted first
@@V_Phyrox_VFirst reply to lockstin not first actual comment
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Did you know, the reason we depict the forbidden fruit as an apple is a pun? In Latin, Malum is a word that can mean Apple but can also mean Evil or Bad
So you're saying it's a Bad Apple?
Yeah except the apple wasnt the actual fruit in adam and eve.
Its an apple in the christian version but the hebrew version it's a pomegranate.
Technically in the bible it never said apple but red fruit. So apple its more a occidentalisation because its oesnt have many other europeen commun red fruit growing on tree.
@@Thunor93 idk if i'd rather drop apples or pomegranates if it was needed. Both are tasty. Also that might explain Pomegranate Cookie from Cookierun being a dark sorcerer obsessed with darkness that cursed an entire forest.
Well that's a new way to say the term "Rotten to the Core"
Given that the actual Hydra had blood that was _ludicrously_ toxic, I wouldn’t recommend eating the syrup.
Also fitting we encounter them in the region that introduced Hydreigon.
So toxic, it could bring pain to gods
Nice duo
Fittingly, apple seeds contain a chemical that turns into cyanide when ingested. So it is also extremely toxic!
(well, you need to eat like 10 apples worth of seeds to be in danger)
You cant stop me from eating all the food inspired pokemon, even if I die I’ll die happy
Did I miss something? It's Unova region
I love the fact that Regenerator is a fitting ability due to the whole, "Cut off one head, two more rise up in it's place"
Hydrapple's French name is "Pomdorochi", that we can translate as "Orochiapple". The Japanese name also seems to be based on Yamata-no-Orochi
My first thought on hydrapple was Yamata no Orochi. That's really neat that they snuck in that detail, especially with the two heads in the back.
@@SilentGlaceon94 Indeed. And in case you don't know about the story of Yamata no Orochi, he was slain by the god Susanoo using a sword called Kusanagi no Tsurugi.
@@HeartAino193 wasn't the Kusanagi the sword he found inside one of the Yamato-no-Orochis tails after slaying it? The sword was then gifted to Amaterasu, Susanoos sister, as a gift of reconciliation, and she gifted it to her mortal descendants, the imperial family of Japan.
btw, "Kusanagi" literally translates to "Grasscutter", and what type is Hydrapple?
@@Justic_ grass dragon
@@HeartAino193 that was a rethorical question, but yes, it's a grass-type, so the connection to the Kusanagi, the grass-cutter, may still be somewhat intentional.
I always thought Dipplin was incomplete. Like theres no way that was its final evolution.
Seeing Hydrapple...yep that fixed it. I LOVE IT ITS SO COOL AND SILLY
YEAH ITS IN THE NAME
APPLIN AND DIPPLIN ("PPLIN") CAN EVOLVE
APPLETUN, FLAPPLE AND HYDRAPPLE ("APPLE") ARE THE FINAL FORMS
How the heck does a dinky little worm in an apple got so much evolutionary range though??
@@dubstepbeecorsi6892
AND CAN GET EVEN MORE XD
RIGHT KNOW WE HAVE APPLIN AS THE BASE
FLAPPLE WITH GIGAMAX
APPLETUN WITH GIGAMAX
DIPPLIN WITH HYDRAPPLE
WE CAN GET 2 EXTRA APPLES ON NEW GENS
SOMETHING LIKE
APPLIN - TOXIPPLIN - POISONAPPLE
(POISONED APPLES LIKE SNOWWHITE STORY)
THIS CAN BE A GRASS/DRAGON THAT GETS POISON TYPE WITH THE ABILITY
WE CAN EVEN GET A TREEPPLE THAT CAN BE A TREE WITH TONS OF APPLINS WORKING SIMILAR TO MEGA KANGHASKAN OR DRAGAPULT USING THE BABIES TO ATTACK
OR ANOTHER LINEA BASED ON YELLOW OR GREEN APPLES THA CAN BE REGIONAL FORMS
AN APPLE WITH HOT SAUCE THAT IS FIRE/DRAGON
AN GHOST/DRAGON THAT IS A LEFTROVER WITH A DEAD WYRM...
I FORGET WE CAN GET A GOLDEN APPLE BASED ON THE APPLE ERIS HAS TOO
I mean
We knew that Dipplin was boosted by Eviolite...
@@dubstepbeecorsi6892 i have no idea...but I think this is the first time a pokemon gets multiple split stage evolutions and one of the evolutions evolve
“Syrpent” being named is absolutely wild to me! It is the latest non-Pokémon Pokemon, like Kangaskhan’s baby except even closer to an actual Pokemon because they’re confirmed as separate entities in the apple AND actually have a pun based name like many Pokemon do!
I wonder what their japanese name is. In spanish the dex calls them "Viborappli", which could be translated to "Viperappli".
Hydrapple looks fierce and cute at the same time! I'm happy with how they approached the design. Definitely using one on my teams
To bad the game gets even worse with the dlc.
I agree!
In what way@@firestorm5371
@@firestorm5371alright genwunner
@@Hide____they're like cockroaches, but dumber
I cannot stress how much I LOVE "syrpent" as a portanteau. It's PURE brilliance. Who thought of that word, GIVE THEM A DAMN RAISE. Also, HA, I covered the candied apple first.
I like Hydrapple. Like, really like it. The design looks cool and well done. The two tails on the back remind me of Ghidorah’s two tails. It’s definitely my favorite out of its evolutionary line.
Ghidorahpple
All were missing is a pokemon destryoyah and monster x
@@darkmask6473Monster X doesnt count it's just another alias for Ghidorah like Death Ghidorah in Rebirth of Mothra
@@AncientBronzongI’m definitely naming my Shiny Hydrapple that!
I am 100% on board with making Applin the next pokemon who gets a ton of new forms.
Maybe they could take a pomegranate and turn it into a literal explosive grenade apple, as the fruit is called in several languages
Hydrapple looks so much cooler than what fans thought it would be! Way to "tie" it all in together so quickly!
Did you know that Dipplin's & Hydrapple's Syrupy Bomb will change from red to gold if it is shiny? The color change remains as the speed effect drops each turn too. I'm pretty sure this is the only time a shiny form has changed a move animation!
Actually, it happens with Blacephalon's Mind Blown too.
@@sinisternorimakiAnd Dragapult’s Dragon Darts before Gen 9.
I bet Fawful's Minion would love to see the entire origin of Dipplin and Hydrapple. He already did to Flapple and Appletun after all
i personally think Hydrapple is, albeit somewhat loosely, based on King Ghidorah, mainly because of the shiny colors and how it looks when all the heads join in when it uses Fickle Beam
and the fact that this same gen introduced Baxcalibur, which is literally just Godzilla, so it would make sense to also add Godzilla's greatest rival as a Pokémon imo
so that ties into Japanese culture! just like Baxcalibur!
@@kannonlewis4183 Its Japanese and French names are based on Yamata-no-Orochi, a Japanese multi-headed dragon
@@draghettis6524it was more of a snake, hence the orochi
@@draghettis6524 ghidorah is somewhat based on orochi with his evil nature and serpent like heads, but I would say hydrapple is definitely more directly connected to orochi then ghidorah.
It isn't based on Ghidorah, they both just share the same common origin, Yamato no orochi
The shiny is yellow because every other member of the family is also yellow-apple as a shiny
I got something you may have missed: hydrapple looks similar to gigatemax flapple/appleton. Perhaps hydrapple looks the way it does as a dna remnant of the potential if the Applen had evolve into the other two.
Or the other way around. The gigantamax is the dormant potential that went to dipplin
I think you should have talked about the Yamata no Orichi inspiration, it's French name is Pomdorochi, which come from pomme d'or (golden apple) and Yamata no Orochi, this could tie it even more with The Japan Based Kitakami .
So THAT'S where the shiny comes from
@@Nikowo1610 Now that you say it...
Hydrapple looks so cool as "syrpents"!
Maybe I’m looking into it too much, but I always felt there was a distinct reason Dipplin/Hydrapple was added to Kieran’s team. It isn’t until Dipplin is on his team that we begin to notice a shift in his character, and by the time we see him again he’s a completely different person, this time with a Hydrapple. It feels like his relationship with Dipplin/Hydrapple kinda mimics the idea of temptation and corruption that we see in the story of the Garden of Eden. Not to say that Hydrapple is responsible for his character arc, but I think it draws a nice parallel for what could be some of Hydrapple’s inspiration.
Lockstin! You may have missed something about this Pokémon. In Spain we have a myth that relates well to it, it's called "cuélebre", a serpentine creature, usually winged, that belongs to the north iberian peninsula mythology, specifically in Asturias. And what is the typical drink in Asturias? Exactly, cider. So definitely hints of cuélebre too.
And also the Herensuge from Basque fits the description! It's a seven headed dragon! :D
Hydrapplin is also a reference to the Yamato no Orochi story in Japanese mythology
In addition, Hydrapple now has regenerator as an ability, fitting for the hydra Pokémon
I like the idea that the apple on it’s horn is it’s original apple from its days as an Applin, and the stick from it’s Dipplin form became a horn when it evolved, as we already know that Hydrapple’s main “apple” is actually just apple-shaped syrup. I’m not sure this theory 100% holds up under scrutiny but I like it.
I find interesting that you need to go to two different locations far from Paldea just to get the new evolution for applin, in the same generation.
Also the fact Hydrapple is the name of a group of Pokemon called syrpents. I think it would be neat to see Syrpents as a solo Pokemon one day.
Alternate idea, Applin evolves into syrpents.
Another option could be a pre evolution. Similar to how you combine a slowpoke to make a slowbro or slowking, they could make a Syrpent combine with an apple to create applin.
@@mantis638 Sadly kinda impossible, that'd be a 4-stage evolution. Syrpent - Applin - Dipplin - Hydrapple. They do not do 4-stage evolutions in Pokemon, it's like, one of the cardinal rules.
Looking it up further, why is Hydrapple SO much stronger than Appletun and Flapple? It's a 540 BST pokemon while Dipplin, Appletun, and Flapple are all 485 BST. They actually kinda DO need to give Flapple/Appletun an evolution each, unless they're just... Done with the line? In which case, why would anyone ever use the clearly worse branches of the line?
@@opalescent4694 The applin evolution line is based on which Apple you use. Looking it up, the applin either evolves in a Flapple when you give them a tart Apple, an Appletun with a sweet apple or a Dripplin with a Syrupy apple. So, I don’t think it would effect the evolutionary line since it varies.
Edit: if that doesn’t work, it could also be a regional variant. Instead of burrowing into an apple, they grow into their own species.
@@opalescent4694literally the Kanto starters with their megas, the Poliwag line, the Oddish line.
@@zigslotheon Megas don't count, they're not a permanent evolution. Split evolutions are not 4-stage. 4-stage would be going from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 without any going back to any of the others. 1 to 2 to 3 OR 4 is not 4 stage.
I think it's interesting that Dipplin got a Hydra evolution in the same region where we first encounter Hydreigon
Hydrapple is the perfect mix of a goofy and cool cool design
I love this fella SO much i also l love how big it is in game
10/10 design
Yeah, after it evolved I got it out of the ball on the overworld and was like "since when the hell are you taller than me" 🤣
i wonder if flapple and appletun will get the same treatment
Nope
Man I hope so.
Flapple really felt like it needed another evo. It reminded me of vibrava. Just didn’t seem complete like Appletun did imo.
@@daltonwilliams1723same. Flapple more like a baby stage, if anything
Shiny Hydrapple reminds me of Ladon, Greek myth's other many headed Reptile, also slain by Hercules. Depicted with heads varying from one to one thousand, Ladon guarded the Garden of the Hesperides, particularly the Golden Apples.
The poison type of the wyrm inside the apple could also be a reference to the seeds of an apple containing arsenic and so being highly toxic.
Archaludon and this guy are by far my favorite new Pokemon from this DLC. Its a good time for gen 8 dragons I guess
I'm still processing the fact that Archaludon is technically a pseudolegendary. It's the first time GF has made one by giving an evo to a previous mon and IT HAD TO BE ANOTHER DAM'N DRAGON TYPE. Other types deserve pseudolegendaries too 😢
@@sinisternorimaki the Duraludon line deserved it though, they always had pseudo legend vibes
Gen 9.
@@tanandalynch9441 Duraludon and Applin are from gen 8 though
@@noahberan6498
But their evolutions of Archuladon and Dipplin/Hydrapple are not
I wish Hydrapple was part of the main game. I love Hydras. One of my favorite dragons and monsters.
Now I just need a third stage evolution for Appletun, because that's by far my favorite branch of the little apple wyrms. He's such a chonky good boi.
hydrapple a precious i love him
7:08 Weird, this reminds me of Blue-Eyes White Dragon's 3-Body Connection from the Toei Yugioh movie, which served as protoype for Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon except instead of fusing with the spell card called Fusion (aka Poylmerization in the TCG and English dubs of the anime series), they were bound together by the spell card called Wicked Chain, which used three Blue-Eyes White Dragons as a tribute to summon Blue-Eyes White Dragon's 3-Body Connection -(a stark contrast to summoning Harpie Lady Sisters with Elegant Egoist, as you do not need to tribute a Harpy Lady to summon Harpy Lady Sisters and you only need one on the field, not three)-
0:49 For context, that's not actually Captain America but a clone created by a living cosmic cube. This may have been the intention all along or a retcon because of the backlash and we'll _never_ know the truth because _of course_ they'd either avoid the question or say it was the plan all along.
Fun fact about Johnny Appleseed In his time. Apples were mainly used in the production of alcohall. It wasn't until after prohibition That they were more commonly eaten. So Johnny appleseeds more inclined to alcohol than eating apples, the more you know.
Heh. And Yamata no Orochi was slain after getting drunk. Sure it was by sake, but ey, seems like a nice bit of the interconnected themes ideas that pokemon have.
I love Hydrapple, one of my new favorite pokemon. It looks so goofy and silly yet it looks like if you look at it the wrong way it will blast you to the 27th dimension.
Fun fact: in actual greek mythology its never stated that the hydra grows 2 heads in the place 1 is cut off in just that it regenerates its heads, Its often a added myth from a later author that stated it grew more heads but in the classical times and the commonly depicted times at the time it only regrew its heads
The original greek word for dragon just meant "Big snake" which is why the hydra looked more snake-like without the influence of western dragons.
I mean most dragons are serpent-like to be honest. I think its just European dragons that are bipedal or quadripedal for the most part.
@@michaelgibson3479 Yeah, and the Greek word is the first instance of the word.
So all dragons are just called "Big snakes".
I think it's dumb when people keep saying stuff like "That's not a dragon, it's a Wyvern/Wyrm/Hydra/Long!"
They're all dragons. Just from different cultures.
The lernean hydra is the ONLY type of hydra that can grow back it’s head from Ancient Greece, the other types was just 1-2 headed and just breather fire, ice or poison
I love how each of their eyes look different, you can easily see this when they do this animation at 3:16
Fun fact: Johnny Appleseed was planting apples to make booze. According to Michael Pollan, he was a reclusive fellow who would buy land and plant apples from seed, which notoriously don’t sprout the same apple as the parent apple. Most apples are pretty gross to eat, but they’re great for makin’ hooch! So JA would plant orchards in remote places and move on when those places got too populated. And I think he also sold the apples or booze and made a tidy living.
I've always loved the Applin line
While I do admit that the fact that only one member of the Applin line actually get to evolve is a bit weird, Hydrapple did grew on me.
The other 2 can Gigantamax, they had to give something to this one
Yeah but gygantamax is dead
True, but its no longer relevent.@@jvbon646
Fun fact about Jonny Appleseed: The type of apple he planted was not suitable for eating, but was used to make alcohol
Also, the reason he planted a bunch of apples was because the new country basically gave out free land, on the condition that you claim it yourself and develop it, so he traveled west, claimed a bunch of land by planting booze apples, and then sold that land to settlers who weren’t fast enough to get their first
Aka, the American dream
It's line has become my favorite pokemon, I want to get 3 shiney ones and have them as each evolution
I love the Applin line, so glad they’re getting more love
I love the idea when you hit Hydrapple, it’s friend comes out to help like “yo, you messin with my cuz?”. Then you hit both and both their friends come out ect.
I just noticed that the apple stuck in Hydrapple's left horn is actually meant to be the tiny apple it had back when it was a tiny 8 inch tall Applin. Now it's a big 5'11" tall Hydrapple with an artificial apple made of syrup to nest in, but still keeps its original apple stuck on its horn like the apple on a stick it's based on. Neat-o beans!
mild correction. the Hydra of Greek Myth couldn't be able to make two new heads grow back when they were cut off. it just regrew that one head and it only had nine heads with the head that was the main one being fully immortal and unkillable
One interesting thing that the poison part reminded me of is that real-life hydras have venomous tentacles like their relatives the Portuguese man o' war. Which, incidentally, is also a colonial organism that happens to be named after an Iberian ship, how perfect can you get?
7 syrupents, that's exactly one head and tail short of Yamata-No-Orochi. Might not be a coincidence.
About the Paradox forms of the Legendary Beasts: while Past-Paradox!Entei isn't an ornithopod, it is still an ornithischian, meaning it and the other two Past-Paradox Beasts represent the three clades of Dinosauria: Theropoda (Walking Wake), Sauropodamorpha (Raging Bolt), and Ornithischia (Gouging Fire). It is known that theropods, sauropodamorphs and ornithischians are more closely related to each other than other archosaurs, the exact relationship between the three clades and which two are closer to one another than to the third is still being debated.
*Hail Hydrapple*
Honestly the ENTIRETY of the Applin line is perfect and adorable too. It's definitely in my top 3 favorite Pokémon lines
I hope Flapple and Appletun learn Dragon Cheer to evolve something unique evolution in the future generation much like Hydrapple.
I would also mention Yamata-no-Orochi, another multiheaded serpent in Japanese folklore, tying it with the DLCs japanese fairytale theming
The fact it has two tails kinda reminds me of King Ghidorah, who also was inspired by the Hydra, so maybe it's just a coincidence.
I mean Pokémon has taken liberal reference to Godzilla and other kaiju, so it’s very likely
Fell for this adorable design the moment I saw it, and I've loved the whole Applin family since their debut in Galar! Honestly think that Hydrapple might be on my top ten!
On another note, something that caught my eye in Scarlet's dex entry was the mention of the little wyrms themselves: ✨Syrpents!✨
Seeing them directly call them out has me curious if these Syrpents have some (possibly planned?) regional variant potential! They could take over other fruits, or maybe even foods?? Perfectly happy with Hydrapple, but there's also so much potential, hope they revisit the idea sometime!
A whole... Can of wyrms... If you will 🪱
Wouldnt the horned serpents also be the same horned serpents associated with Isold Sayer and the founding of Ilvermorny story?
Hydrapple managed to become my favorite Gen 9 Dragon and one of my favorite Gen 9 Pokémon altogether, and I haven't even played the Indigo Disk yet
6:16 o7 for the half eaten apple stick😢
9:08 HE'S BACK 🤩🤩
Knew this was coming,was waiting for it too
*Munches on a green apple.* Okay I'll have to get this evo now. This just makes Dipplin so much better!
0:44 No, you don't "Hail" it. You instead get on the Hydra's back!
3:12 now i kinda wish they did a prevolve baby of applin called syrpent thats so clever!
I will always love Pokemon. As much as the graphics and optimization sucks, they're still filled with so much creativity and soul
I love caramel apples and already loved the other forms of this Pokemon, this on might be my new favorite once I get it in game.
Wyrm is also said Worm
I wondered where the Actual Apple in this Pokémon went, and it’s fitting that the Head Syrupent wears it like a little crown!, so cool!.
Syrepent is such a fantastic name for the little guys
also yeah the Japanese inspired Candied Apple evolution being a multi-snek also makes sense as a connection to the Yamata-no-Orochi
It's really neat how the small apple stuck on the main head's horn resembles a Leppa Berry!
I think the fact that apples are acidic also fits with the poison thing (since a lot of poisons are), but you also got poison apples and the fact that apple seeds contain a tiny amount of poison.
I'd be low-key down for Applin turning into a new Eevee and having like 7 evolutions
Someone somewhere on the internet pointed this out not me, but Kieran has Hydrapple as his ace Pokemon because Kieran is a Bad apple. I also saw someone on the internet somewhere make a video comparing Kieran’s theme to a song called Bad apple.
I love how when he shows the trubish bug and say put trash in it he puts ampipom in it
Herensuge from Basque mythology is also a seven headed dragon, that could be the inspiration for the number.
Blueberry Academy being in New Jersey also works well because blueberries are the state fruit. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a rival school called Cranberry Academy (another prominent fruit in the state, NJ being the third largest cranberry producers in the US) to be the red to its blue.
This is what I thought what *Applin* is gonna look like when it evolves instead it's a Apple cow and a flapping apple, I'm glad to see diplins evolution is the one I thought it would be
This is the BEST way to learn about a new pokemon! I haven't played S/V yet and I knew about Dipplin but!! A hydra based apple pokemon!! I'm in love!!!!
Blueberry academy being off the coast of Unova was news to me, I mean I never looked into the geographical location.
I assumed it was either still the Iberian peninsula/an island by the peninsula or more towards Italy
lockstin & gnoggin: "don't hail it!" me thinking of marvels hydra: "hail hydrapple!"
When will the Paradox Pokemon Battle Royale happen?
funny you should mention the spanish hydra guarding a golden apple cause the shiny form of hydrapple is gold.
Flapple was my favorite pikemon before but now its some super tough competition i think hydrapple might just beat it out.
The whole Applin line is fantastic i love them so much I think i wanna do a whole playthrough of just the apples
Unrelated to this particular video, but I'm watching a video about "eggcorns" (a linguistic thingy) and they explained "damp squib" vs "damp squid" and now the ability damp makes a little more sense. It's still stupid but at least I know what they were going for with it
This evolution is so great it makes me feel sorry for Applin's other evolutions
While it's one head short of having the proper Yamata-no-Orochi inspiration, it would've been fitting for Kieran's ogre/oni-themed team, you know, the one with an OGRE Darner Pokemon in it, since the Yamata-no-Orochi sired an oni.
It’s actually called Pomdorochi is French and I believe Orochi is in the Japanese name as well.
@@NokoTheTaco Orochi simply means big snake so that could be its application there.
Wow already a video for hydrapple
I didn’t know Johnny Apple Seed (and the accompanying festivals) were states specific- we have whole fairs dedicated to it in mine!
Not just in japan, in Brazil syrup candy it's also used in them in some festivals (June fest is the more common)
I think my favourite design feature is that it’s original apple is still there it’s just stuck on its horn
Applin love is always welcomed
9:37 that one kind of stung 💀
In the poison section, you didn't mention the poison apple connections
The real OGs will remember “syrupent” as a piñata snake from vivá piñata.
I miss that game.
Why was there no mention of the apple pierced by its horn, maybe that is the apple it used to live in.
9:12 I'm sorry I Laughed too hard at that.
Hydrapple also (kinda) sound like "hide in apple" to me. An incredible pun.
With all this talk about Applin, Dipplin, and Hydrapple I'm now kinda hungry for candy apples! 🍎🍏