There's an appreciation for this channel that no mainstream tech tuber can get. Because while those guys will show a few graphs of results and then spoon-feed their audience what to believe, you are explaining the technical details of how stuff works and then have people draw their own conclusion. I don't even care about DDR5 yet and won't for many more years until it's actually time to upgrade, but this is interesting to watch regardless. Even with MS paint and notepad things can be illustrated perfectly.
Dual rank DDR4 experiences the same behaviour as Dual rank does in DDR5, in fact a bigger gap than in DDR5, as it is only 2x64 bit controller instead of 4X32 bit controller, which masks latencies better.
I found your channel a little while ago and I have to give you props on the unique, specific kinds of tests you run. Very interesting and in line with the criteria I'd be asking
The problem is that cheaper 6 layer intel z690 4 ram slot boards handle dual rank modules worse than single tank, you cannot expect single and dual ram sticks to hit the same max frequency. Interesting to see how z790 will handle this.
Darn, from one side I did not expect that much difference difference between DDR4 and DDR5, from the other, the difference feels pretty negligible! :D Thanks for the video!
Big fan from Canada, PLEASE test Modern Warfare 2 beta with DDR4/5 on Intel and AMD from September 22 to 26. Based on what we saw at the Warzone 2 reveal yesterday the framerates never went above 150 fps in WZ2 on the machines provided by Activision.
Tons of single rank 16gb ddr4 modules in the market now. Even a lot of 32gb kits that used to be guaranteed dual rank are now single rank without a part number change. Really annoying.
LOL Jufes, your intros and thumbnails are so funny :) Let me tell you my experience from the OC competitive world, i discovered the same but with DDR4 using 16GB sticks, some benchmarks, specially Intel XTU v1 scores more than faster single rank DDR4 8GB modules, i showed this to some friends and results were the same. Sometimes you can get some pretty good info and proof that can apply to the gaming world from those benchmarks, for that reason, i told you on my previous message on your other video that i apply all that i learn from the OC world to the gaming world. All the Best, Sergio!
You said dual rank was 2 ranks on one side and that is DDR5. But then you were testing single rank against dual rank. Were you comparing DDR4 to DDR5? Or did you mean quad rank sticks vs dual rank sticks ?
The only reason I consider to buy a 13600k/7700x3D is to have 144fps locked in every game. I care way more about the GPU, but I don't want any bottleneck from cpu.
@@robertsharp6072 with an rtx 4080 and the next best gaming cpu???? why are people buying 300hz screens then. I want to buy red dead redemption 2 everything maxxed out at 1440p, next gta, next battlefield... otherwise I can stay in 1080p
@@terminator9099 Yes. It is not going to happen even with 4090. When better graphics will come to cosumers, 144fps min at 1440p max settings will not be possible. But with few video settings adjusments 200 can be minimum for most stuff.
@@terminator9099 We already know next gen games are gonna be more demanding. Learn how tech works buddy. 144 FPS minimum is a pipe dream, you will then need 5090 for next gen games to achieve that.
@@skorpers Yeah thats correct. But your subtimings will change if you use (for example) XMP. And most of the time they get worse. And you can boost your primary timings to the absolute max and still be slower than somebody that works on his subtimings. Check out this vid and all his Ram Guides for a lot more information. It is really good guide (watch?v=pgb8N23tsfA)
I'm not a whale bit I got the same kit in black. I wanted decent RAM 64GB with only 2 DIMMs. Hope was to be able to go to 128GB down the road. Using 7950x on Gigabyte Auros x670 Elite AX.
Calling the separately-accessed groups of 4 chips on DDR5 "ranks" is misleading. They're subchannels, not ranks. A module with 2 single-rank subchannels is still single-rank, just the same as if you use two single-rank memory modules in different channels it's still single-rank (though it's dual-rank if you use them in the same channel).
I love when people on reddit try to argue with me about DDR5 not knowing I did a full manual timings tune (50.2ns). They always delete the thread soon as I shut them down with facts.
Interesting finding. How much higher is the SA Voltage/CPU MC VDD/TX VDDQ needed to clock the Dual-rank sticks compared to Single-rank stick at same frequency (e.g 6000MT/s) ?
Wew, ketemu om Alva dimari. Cobain 1x32gb vs 2x16gb vs 4x8gb ddr5 di frek/timing yg sama dong, mana yg lebih kenceng (abaikan rank) di platform intel tentunya, AM5 kabarnya ga suport speed tinggi pake 4 keping ram. 🙏
I'm running a 64GB gskill 5600Mhz CL30 1.25v kit at 6000 CL30 1.3v on a 12100F and Z690 Unify-X with the stock 0.97 SA voltage. Don't know much about the voltages so here's a pic i.imgur.com/UXSO7aU.png
@@FireBarrels Are you sure it's actually stable? I thought i got my 64 GB 5600CL30 kit to 6000CL30 stable but Prime95 Large FFTs failed in 10 minutes. I think my memory can handle it but my 12900K IMC can't, so I dropped it to 5600CL28 which is 100% stable, has been for months.
@@rayw8252 It passed running memtest86 overnight and I have not had issues with it. Will see what prime95 does to it. I also have a 80mm fan blowing through the ram sticks which lowered the temps when gaming from ~48°c to ~35°c. Not sure if that makes it more stable at those temperatures but Buildzoid does put a fan on his ram to make it more stable when overclocking at 1.4v+
@@FireBarrels mine passed overnight memtest86 as well, and also testmem5 but failed in prime large fft specifically within 10 minutes, and another time within 30
Whats going on with BCLK at 7:55 vs 8:05? Dual rank setup is showing a 2% OC (ik both are at 102) Just thought it was relevant since aidia numbers break with BCLK OC
You're talking about Zen 4 but all of your screenshots show a 12900k. Maybe you mentioned something about that in the video and I didn't catch it. Are the timings the same on the two sets of memory that are the same speed? Could timing differences maybe be part of why the duel rank performed better? I'm sure duel rank does help a bit but 8% seems like a bit much.
Do you think Warzone 2 will perform similar to Warzone, or even better ? Or do you think the new IW 9 Engine will be even worse in performance and we need better hardware ? Currently Warzone is on a CPU Limit with an High End GPU (3090, oc rx6900xtxh/6950) I bought my PC with a non k i7 12700 with Crucial Ballistix 3200@C16 and i managed to bump it up to 3600@c14. GPU is a rx6900xtxh, when i found your channel i watched almost every video and i cant even tell how many times ive run the train trail in caldera xD. Currently im getting 212 fps on average (150 1%) in Caldera and 215-220avg in Rebirth with 160-170 1% lows. (I only play rebirth anyway) My GPU usage is about 80% on both maps, in 1080p its 60% so i get no more fps if i lower my resolution. Right now im doing very well with this setup and if I cap my FPS in caldera to 200 with RTSS, or 210 in Rebirth, my 1% lows are almost the same as the average FPS, TrueGameData did a test and it even reduces the input lag if he caps the FPS. Monitor is a G7. Do u think its worth to upgrade to a 5800x3d for now and for Warzone 2, because as soon as a CPU can give me 250< FPS i could cap it to 240, my 1% lows would be almost the same and ive maxed out my G7, but currently my CPU / DDR4 setup is not strong enough to give more than 210/220 (caldera/rebirth) on average. My goal is OVER 240fps on average (GPU is only @80% in 1440p), so that I cap them to 240 to get almost the same 1% lows as the average 240fps and ive maxed out the G7. I know its almost impossible to tell the difference between 240fps and 210fps, but just that i know ive maxed out everything @ 1440p im happy.
im in that in-between zone i guess where no upgrade makes much sense, be it total cheapo or something higher up, i7 6700 non k here with gtx1080, 2x8c10 early hynix die monitor 1440@155hz, not playing much but if it is online multi fps more on the tactical side, not the big map walking simulator ones, so i guess thats more towards latency than bandwidth but still not even so much important regarding ram, its not esports nor big map/world, so my current ram would limit both zen3 and alder i would need to buy something new regardless, but yeah nothing makes sense from perf/buck perspective
Did you say it makes a difference if you populate 2 vs 4 slots of RAM? I feel like you glossed over that.. Would it depend on the individual motherboard, like it did with DDR4?
Super interesting video thank you for that. Just one question, why are you so sure about the new ryzens not running above +6600? the fabrick will run anyway in 2:1 mode like you explained some videos before, or? So I would assume if you hit 8000 mhz it should be same than 1:1 DDR4 4000 from just stress level perspective of the controller? Maybe you can give some background information here ? keep up the good work!
He can't give background info, because he is wrong and doesn't understand how the new FCLK:UCLK:MCLK relation works. Give him time to go read about it from smarter people and then barf an opinion about it at you.
The performance increase is negligible that it's not worth forgoing a capacity of 128gb of ram. Sorry the 10% increase at most means nothing in comparison to having double the amount of ram.
@@Remzly Wrong, having 128gb of ram allows you to have many more programs running in the background like other games. Your 64gb computer is inferior to a 128gb computer. You're like on of those idiots who thinks way back in the day that the who thought the 7700k was better than the 6950x extreme processor from intel. Gaming is not just about sheer speed. The 6950x while being a bit slower is significantly more useful as it has 10 cores compared to a measly 4 core 8 thread processor. Get out of here with your peasantry 64gb ram nonsense.
I have 4 16gb Trident Z DDR5 6400mhz for a total of 64gb. I think I messed up. The framerates in my games are not as high as they should be. MSI RTX 4090, 7900X and X670E board. Should I get 2 sticks instead?
What about the sub timings between the two different sets of memory that could create the difference maybe the sub timings are tighter on the dual rank and the single rank sub timings like same group read write is loose
Dear FC :) How to you get so low latency?? I run DDR5 6000 at 6600 36-36-36-72 with tight secondary and tetary timings. I have 56 ns latency Aida and this is in safe mode for best result!??!?! What the magic key?
Wow! Finally someone explains why ddr5 is claimed to be faster....and by extension why the DIMMs can have more capacity. (Okay, so it happened 1 year ago, but I just found it. so....)
You linked intel optimized memory for amd intentions. Now that amd optimized sticks are out for zen4 you should change the links. St least in my internet opinion.
Go ddr4, i have buy ddr5 because motherboard with Thunderbolt are ddr5 only and i hit my head trying to tune my ram and if you not gonna use 16c go 12700k or wait for 13700k
I would wait for the 4090 to launch and the 7950x to launch then I would build a computer, they're launching this month. The 4090 should be launching this month or early next month
The MSI meg x570s unify x max board says it can do up to 5800mh ram oc in single rank. What would happen if the infinity fabric was broken that much? Could it beat 4000cl14?
Yo man, I've just dropped a comment on your old post about 6900xt just wandering Bit late but what would your thoughts be if I asked you if I should consider 6900xt and 5800x3d as I've heard you say before that if you don't want to deal with bios and tuning and want out the box gaming for high FPS at 1080p 1440p would that be a good pair up for clapping cheekz 😉😂🤣 I'm new to this shit and want to finally switch from console to pc gaming set-up all I run is warzone and don't stream just purely want a high FPS kickass build
@@FrameChasers but big changes won't be made until some comments I've heard about DDR5 has been out and run for a while and as for intel i9 series I don't want to mess with as I don't stream content create or anything else it will only be for warzone set-up and as kind of on a budget i will be buying parts each month to then build when I've finalized my parts I might then just put all together in a milk crate and clap some fucking cheekz, so would you still say no to me doing this set-up
Iv been following the gpu prices since the beginning of the pandemic and have been watching the prices drop I think the biggest impact on prices has been bitcoin mining etheruim just went proof of stake which means its not profitable to mine bitcoin on gpus, the day it changed prices went down on all cards on newegg and eBay so I think you should wait also if you Wana do any streaming you should get an nivida gpu
@@FrameChasers i may not agree with most things on this channel however i do agree with this, raphael, rpl and lovelace are very close and its worth waiting, although i do expect raphael to not be amazing it is still worth waiting a few weeks for the launch and reviews
what about 6400 cl32 or 6600 cl32 (like CMT32GX5M2X6600C32)? sorry but 6000 is a Mega Transfer (not Mega Hz) like in DDR4? "if you dont have a 2dimm motherboard you dont but ddr5" what do you mean?
So after 7800X3D came out this week would you still recommend that dual rank kit or would you simply go with some single rank a die ? Price came down a lot in my country
I’m looking at getting 2x32gb 64gb ddr5 for my gaming/productivity pc which ram/speed would you recommend for out of the box xmp? Z790 Hero motherboard
so I wanna build an ITX build soon with 13700K, which would be the best itx motherboard to buy? and which DDR5 kit I would be good? (2x 16GB) any advice?
There's an appreciation for this channel that no mainstream tech tuber can get. Because while those guys will show a few graphs of results and then spoon-feed their audience what to believe, you are explaining the technical details of how stuff works and then have people draw their own conclusion. I don't even care about DDR5 yet and won't for many more years until it's actually time to upgrade, but this is interesting to watch regardless. Even with MS paint and notepad things can be illustrated perfectly.
OMG INSTANT CLASSIC INTRO
Dude, the eyebrow raise!! Omg this made my day thanks Jufes! I'm so glad you got the wig, hilarious my guy
Just for the record. It was more than 6 months six your last dual rank video. I guess it's a perfect time for a fresh one!
You know he's Canadian when he says "costed me"
You definitely loved making this intro with these grins.
Dual rank DDR4 experiences the same behaviour as Dual rank does in DDR5, in fact a bigger gap than in DDR5, as it is only 2x64 bit controller instead of 4X32 bit controller, which masks latencies better.
Dude keep it up, rlly like your style and tests 👍
I enjoy you approaching the tuning based on competitive games and appreciate the best choices you suggest! Thanks man! Kinda new to your channel
I found your channel a little while ago and I have to give you props on the unique, specific kinds of tests you run. Very interesting and in line with the criteria I'd be asking
thanks
The problem is that cheaper 6 layer intel z690 4 ram slot boards handle dual rank modules worse than single tank, you cannot expect single and dual ram sticks to hit the same max frequency. Interesting to see how z790 will handle this.
is the z690 asus prime p d4 in that list?
@@zlibz4582 I have that board and I seem to max out at 3800 dual rank, could also be my 12700k sucks though..
LMAOOO dude I love ur videos man. 13:09 literally describes the ambience of the entire point of the video
This guy was born to do this. Ty bro. Subscribed 👍
this channel is vastly underrated
O man... if only those * DOUBLE YOUR RAM * guys knew you can just paste another stick of it in MS Paint.
Darn, from one side I did not expect that much difference difference between DDR4 and DDR5, from the other, the difference feels pretty negligible! :D
Thanks for the video!
Big fan from Canada, PLEASE test Modern Warfare 2 beta with DDR4/5 on Intel and AMD from September 22 to 26. Based on what we saw at the Warzone 2 reveal yesterday the framerates never went above 150 fps in WZ2 on the machines provided by Activision.
Lol that intro 😅😂🤣 I knew fabio had short hair hahaha
Fuck Yeah "Please have my Babies" ... probably someone in the chat... On fucking point with topics the horde public want to see!
LOKTAR OGAR!
@@turbobros_online1561 Time is money friend
dude i dont even care about the ddr5 non sense the intros are on point and worthy of an oscar with the upgraded wardrobe 😂
Aweshome ass video especially that hair flip lol no bs just straight to the point still happy with my ddr4 10900k build to the max
Wow amazing intro bud. Laughed my ass off.
Tons of single rank 16gb ddr4 modules in the market now. Even a lot of 32gb kits that used to be guaranteed dual rank are now single rank without a part number change. Really annoying.
All 2x16GB Bdie kits will be dual dank
DUDE!!! You totally need some cheezy lifetime music for that slow motion head move.
Roughly 5:05 to 5:22 earned you a sub :D
I don't mean "earn" in a backhanded way, respect man!
LOL Jufes, your intros and thumbnails are so funny :)
Let me tell you my experience from the OC competitive world, i discovered the same but with DDR4 using 16GB sticks, some benchmarks, specially Intel XTU v1 scores more than faster single rank DDR4 8GB modules, i showed this to some friends and results were the same. Sometimes you can get some pretty good info and proof that can apply to the gaming world from those benchmarks, for that reason, i told you on my previous message on your other video that i apply all that i learn from the OC world to the gaming world.
All the Best, Sergio!
This is my favorite intro! Favorite 🤩
Well well well who is this beauty :^) loved the intro
If I want 64gb, does it matter if I go 2x32 or 4x16? Using gskill z neo expo 6000 kit
I have the same question on my mind
Great review!
Omg he touched a stick of ddr5, he will get sick for sure 😂😂😂😂😂
Chris and Paul were right your intros are the best 👌
Most underrated tech UA-cam
These intros become more and more iconic
You are going to be huge, keep going brother ! They way u explain things are also quite helpful I sincerely mean it
Thank you highly appreciate this comment!
Intro was funny as brother.
Intro was so funny!
We love u bro 💜
Instantly liked after the hair whip
Subbed in the first minute
Wow, learning you put down your own money over $1,000, I decided to watch all the ads in full length in this video to help you make some $$$. 😄
You said dual rank was 2 ranks on one side and that is DDR5. But then you were testing single rank against dual rank. Were you comparing DDR4 to DDR5? Or did you mean quad rank sticks vs dual rank sticks ?
The only reason I consider to buy a 13600k/7700x3D is to have 144fps locked in every game. I care way more about the GPU, but I don't want any bottleneck from cpu.
Sorry but you can buy the fastest hardware out there and you're still not going to get 144 FPS minimums in every game.
@@robertsharp6072 with an rtx 4080 and the next best gaming cpu???? why are people buying 300hz screens then. I want to buy red dead redemption 2 everything maxxed out at 1440p, next gta, next battlefield... otherwise I can stay in 1080p
@@terminator9099 Yes. It is not going to happen even with 4090. When better graphics will come to cosumers, 144fps min at 1440p max settings will not be possible. But with few video settings adjusments 200 can be minimum for most stuff.
@@MariusVerbavicius well we will see
@@terminator9099 We already know next gen games are gonna be more demanding. Learn how tech works buddy. 144 FPS minimum is a pipe dream, you will then need 5090 for next gen games to achieve that.
you always teaching me new shit
What subtimings do these two Kits use? 30-38-38-28 are the primary timings but some of the subtimings have a lot more affect on the memory performance
@@skorpers Yeah thats correct. But your subtimings will change if you use (for example) XMP. And most of the time they get worse. And you can boost your primary timings to the absolute max and still be slower than somebody that works on his subtimings. Check out this vid and all his Ram Guides for a lot more information. It is really good guide (watch?v=pgb8N23tsfA)
I'm not a whale bit I got the same kit in black. I wanted decent RAM 64GB with only 2 DIMMs. Hope was to be able to go to 128GB down the road. Using 7950x on Gigabyte Auros x670 Elite AX.
Calling the separately-accessed groups of 4 chips on DDR5 "ranks" is misleading.
They're subchannels, not ranks.
A module with 2 single-rank subchannels is still single-rank, just the same as if you use two single-rank memory modules in different channels it's still single-rank (though it's dual-rank if you use them in the same channel).
I love when people on reddit try to argue with me about DDR5 not knowing I did a full manual timings tune (50.2ns). They always delete the thread soon as I shut them down with facts.
Good info. This costed me about 19 minutes.
On hearing "journalistic integrity", subscribed at once.
Cost. It cost you. It didn't "costed" you.
😆 🤣 😂 😹 fucking great intro dude. Holy shit!
Interesting finding.
How much higher is the SA Voltage/CPU MC VDD/TX VDDQ needed to clock the Dual-rank sticks compared to Single-rank stick at same frequency (e.g 6000MT/s) ?
Wew, ketemu om Alva dimari.
Cobain 1x32gb vs 2x16gb vs 4x8gb ddr5 di frek/timing yg sama dong, mana yg lebih kenceng (abaikan rank) di platform intel tentunya, AM5 kabarnya ga suport speed tinggi pake 4 keping ram. 🙏
I'm running a 64GB gskill 5600Mhz CL30 1.25v kit at 6000 CL30 1.3v on a 12100F and Z690 Unify-X with the stock 0.97 SA voltage. Don't know much about the voltages so here's a pic i.imgur.com/UXSO7aU.png
@@FireBarrels Are you sure it's actually stable? I thought i got my 64 GB 5600CL30 kit to 6000CL30 stable but Prime95 Large FFTs failed in 10 minutes. I think my memory can handle it but my 12900K IMC can't, so I dropped it to 5600CL28 which is 100% stable, has been for months.
@@rayw8252 It passed running memtest86 overnight and I have not had issues with it. Will see what prime95 does to it. I also have a 80mm fan blowing through the ram sticks which lowered the temps when gaming from ~48°c to ~35°c. Not sure if that makes it more stable at those temperatures but Buildzoid does put a fan on his ram to make it more stable when overclocking at 1.4v+
@@FireBarrels mine passed overnight memtest86 as well, and also testmem5 but failed in prime large fft specifically within 10 minutes, and another time within 30
Whats going on with BCLK at 7:55 vs 8:05? Dual rank setup is showing a 2% OC (ik both are at 102) Just thought it was relevant since aidia numbers break with BCLK OC
Priceless
You're talking about Zen 4 but all of your screenshots show a 12900k. Maybe you mentioned something about that in the video and I didn't catch it. Are the timings the same on the two sets of memory that are the same speed? Could timing differences maybe be part of why the duel rank performed better? I'm sure duel rank does help a bit but 8% seems like a bit much.
the only bro that benchmarks COD. the only game that matters
Test DDR5 3600 MHz (4 slots) versus DDR5 6000 MHz (2 slots)
I have 4 sticks of the expensive memory.
I even forgot how much I paid for it.
I get 39ns with DDR4 4400 CL16. OC 10900K to 5.2Ghz and 4.9 Ring. I'm chillin.
2x32gb DDR5-6000 Cl30 here and I noticed I get higher fps than my friend with my 7950x3d
Do you think Warzone 2 will perform similar to Warzone, or even better ? Or do you think the new IW 9 Engine will be even worse in performance and we need better hardware ? Currently Warzone is on a CPU Limit with an High End GPU (3090, oc rx6900xtxh/6950)
I bought my PC with a non k i7 12700 with Crucial Ballistix 3200@C16 and i managed to bump it up to 3600@c14. GPU is a rx6900xtxh, when i found your channel i watched almost every video and i cant even tell how many times ive run the train trail in caldera xD.
Currently im getting 212 fps on average (150 1%) in Caldera and 215-220avg in Rebirth with 160-170 1% lows. (I only play rebirth anyway)
My GPU usage is about 80% on both maps, in 1080p its 60% so i get no more fps if i lower my resolution.
Right now im doing very well with this setup and if I cap my FPS in caldera to 200 with RTSS, or 210 in Rebirth, my 1% lows are almost the same as the average FPS, TrueGameData did a test and it even reduces the input lag if he caps the FPS. Monitor is a G7. Do u think its worth to upgrade to a 5800x3d for now and for Warzone 2, because as soon as a CPU can give me 250< FPS i could cap it to 240, my 1% lows would be almost the same and ive maxed out my G7, but currently my CPU / DDR4 setup is not strong enough to give more than 210/220 (caldera/rebirth) on average.
My goal is OVER 240fps on average (GPU is only @80% in 1440p), so that I cap them to 240 to get almost the same 1% lows as the average 240fps and ive maxed out the G7. I know its almost impossible to tell the difference between 240fps and 210fps, but just that i know ive maxed out everything @ 1440p im happy.
im in that in-between zone i guess where no upgrade makes much sense, be it total cheapo or something higher up, i7 6700 non k here with gtx1080, 2x8c10 early hynix die monitor 1440@155hz, not playing much but if it is online multi fps more on the tactical side, not the big map walking simulator ones, so i guess thats more towards latency than bandwidth but still not even so much important regarding ram, its not esports nor big map/world, so my current ram would limit both zen3 and alder i would need to buy something new regardless, but yeah nothing makes sense from perf/buck perspective
Did you say it makes a difference if you populate 2 vs 4 slots of RAM? I feel like you glossed over that.. Would it depend on the individual motherboard, like it did with DDR4?
Super interesting video thank you for that. Just one question, why are you so sure about the new ryzens not running above +6600? the fabrick will run anyway in 2:1 mode like you explained some videos before, or? So I would assume if you hit 8000 mhz it should be same than 1:1 DDR4 4000 from just stress level perspective of the controller? Maybe you can give some background information here ? keep up the good work!
He can't give background info, because he is wrong and doesn't understand how the new FCLK:UCLK:MCLK relation works. Give him time to go read about it from smarter people and then barf an opinion about it at you.
It's from the horses mouth. AMD have said the "sweet spot" for Zen4 is 6000 based on cost, stability, performance, availability, and ease.
@UA-cam Account It's pretty overpriced, I'll give you that.
@UA-cam Account Isn't it microcenter who is doing that?
Can we have an updated video for zen4?
The performance increase is negligible that it's not worth forgoing a capacity of 128gb of ram.
Sorry the 10% increase at most means nothing in comparison to having double the amount of ram.
And having more ram means nothing compared to 10% more fps when you're gaming, which is the whole point of this channel
@@Remzly Wrong, having 128gb of ram allows you to have many more programs running in the background like other games.
Your 64gb computer is inferior to a 128gb computer.
You're like on of those idiots who thinks way back in the day that the who thought the 7700k was better than the 6950x extreme processor from intel.
Gaming is not just about sheer speed.
The 6950x while being a bit slower is significantly more useful as it has 10 cores compared to a measly 4 core 8 thread processor.
Get out of here with your peasantry 64gb ram nonsense.
Couldn't Dual Ranks also be consider 1 DDR4 stick with memory modules on both sides? 🤔
hynix A die can do 41n or 42n
I have 4 16gb Trident Z DDR5 6400mhz for a total of 64gb. I think I messed up. The framerates in my games are not as high as they should be. MSI RTX 4090, 7900X and X670E board. Should I get 2 sticks instead?
I think its probably just immature firmware. Will probably get sorted out
When did the RHCP dude start reviewing ram?
Me watching this pretending i know what hes talking about at all
What about the sub timings between the two different sets of memory that could create the difference maybe the sub timings are tighter on the dual rank and the single rank sub timings like same group read write is loose
“COSTED” 💀
Dear FC :) How to you get so low latency?? I run DDR5 6000 at 6600 36-36-36-72 with tight secondary and tetary timings. I have 56 ns latency Aida and this is in safe mode for best result!??!?! What the magic key?
• 1DPC 1R Max speed up to 6666+ MHz
• 1DPC 2R Max speed up to 6000+ MHz
• 2DPC 1R Max speed up to 6400+ MHz
• 2DPC 2R Max speed up to 4000+ MHz
Wow! Finally someone explains why ddr5 is claimed to be faster....and by extension why the DIMMs can have more capacity. (Okay, so it happened 1 year ago, but I just found it. so....)
You linked intel optimized memory for amd intentions. Now that amd optimized sticks are out for zen4 you should change the links. St least in my internet opinion.
This video made me firm
Last 8 seconds of this video is gold 😆
Im planning on upgrading this weekend, what should I get? I have a 3090ti and was thinking about going for a 12900k
It is not allowed to give hardware advice in comments
Go ddr4, i have buy ddr5 because motherboard with Thunderbolt are ddr5 only and i hit my head trying to tune my ram and if you not gonna use 16c go 12700k or wait for 13700k
@@zet7914 the Asus strix Z690 -A ddr4 has a TB ad on card capable.
@@griffenxzable yes but you need a asus Thunderbolt pcie card, i want a motherboard with direct Thunderbolt
I would wait for the 4090 to launch and the 7950x to launch then I would build a computer, they're launching this month. The 4090 should be launching this month or early next month
The MSI meg x570s unify x max board says it can do up to 5800mh ram oc in single rank. What would happen if the infinity fabric was broken that much? Could it beat 4000cl14?
will getting 4 of these 16GB get me dual Rank Configuration with full stability on Z790 board @ 6000mt/s?
Me watching this on my DDR3 system...: hmmmm naruhodon't
Do you think it's worth to use 4 sticks of lower capacity memory or to buy 2 stick of something better and upgrade later?
This question is for an art PC so lots of blender rendering would I be giving up memory overclocking stability from using 256gb or 128gb of ram
So @framechasers if am big on esport games (warzone) my best bet when upgrading to i9-1300k would be stick with my viper 4400 ddr4 sticks?
No? Go buy a V-cache CPU like 5800x3d
@@maou5025 why is this? I'm not familiar, but is this so that you have no choke at the memory controller?
hahahahaha i freakin love your videos and your skits lmao hahahaha hilarious lol
Why does your motherboard only have to have two memory slots?
Yo man, I've just dropped a comment on your old post about 6900xt just wandering Bit late but what would your thoughts be if I asked you if I should consider 6900xt and 5800x3d as I've heard you say before that if you don't want to deal with bios and tuning and want out the box gaming for high FPS at 1080p 1440p would that be a good pair up for clapping cheekz 😉😂🤣 I'm new to this shit and want to finally switch from console to pc gaming set-up all I run is warzone and don't stream just purely want a high FPS kickass build
this channel is complete bullshit dont watch him lmao
extreme intel/nvidia bias bro probably owns userbenchmark lmao
Don’t buy anything until warzone 2 drops and RTX 4000 series drops in 2 weeks. Everything could change then
@@FrameChasers but big changes won't be made until some comments I've heard about DDR5 has been out and run for a while and as for intel i9 series I don't want to mess with as I don't stream content create or anything else it will only be for warzone set-up and as kind of on a budget i will be buying parts each month to then build when I've finalized my parts I might then just put all together in a milk crate and clap some fucking cheekz, so would you still say no to me doing this set-up
Iv been following the gpu prices since the beginning of the pandemic and have been watching the prices drop I think the biggest impact on prices has been bitcoin mining etheruim just went proof of stake which means its not profitable to mine bitcoin on gpus, the day it changed prices went down on all cards on newegg and eBay so I think you should wait also if you Wana do any streaming you should get an nivida gpu
@@FrameChasers i may not agree with most things on this channel however i do agree with this, raphael, rpl and lovelace are very close and its worth waiting, although i do expect raphael to not be amazing it is still worth waiting a few weeks for the launch and reviews
what about 6400 cl32 or 6600 cl32 (like CMT32GX5M2X6600C32)?
sorry but 6000 is a Mega Transfer (not Mega Hz) like in DDR4?
"if you dont have a 2dimm motherboard you dont but ddr5" what do you mean?
So after 7800X3D came out this week would you still recommend that dual rank kit or would you simply go with some single rank a die ? Price came down a lot in my country
5:56 can anyone tell me what video this is referencing or why not to buy DDR5 with motherboards with more than 2 dimms
I’m looking at getting 2x32gb 64gb ddr5 for my gaming/productivity pc which ram/speed would you recommend for out of the box xmp? Z790 Hero motherboard
Aren't most 16GB or larger DDR4 sticks dual rank? Mine are (Trident Z)
Drop soc voltage by 0.5 ?? What were you running at, 1.8V ?
You look better when you are wearing your wig, I hope the wig didn't cost more then that fancy bank ddr5 memory
alò, is out there any list of ddr5 rams which I can read in if they are single/dual rank and or single/dual sided ? thanks
so I wanna build an ITX build soon with 13700K, which would be the best itx motherboard to buy? and which DDR5 kit I would be good? (2x 16GB)
any advice?
Nobody is talking about how good he draws on paint.
7200 trident rgb is only 380 now. How a month changes things.