@@joaorocha144 have you checked the website and tried to configure your own bike? I see cruise control there under "Instrumentos e Eletrônicos". Quick shifter is displayed under "Transmissão" The only thing I coulsnt confirm but seen many people reporting, is the tubeless tires.
Just a general response here, from an owner who has done 21,000 kms on a 2023 model. Sorry it's a bit long. A lot of complaints on here - most stridently from people saying they wouldn't buy one (and probably never rode one) - not so many complaints from those who have done serious miles on them, apart from Kairyu himself. More riding and less whingeing would be my prescription for the non-owners... Yes, this model doesn't have some of the features people seem to be preoccupied about, which come on models which often cost twice as much, or come out of China. Personally I think the lack of an ambient temperature gauge and oil window were mistakes, only one of which has been addressed on the newer model, but I think we need to remember where this model was aimed at in the market. But cruise control is available as an option from Veridian, and will probably join the Honda accessory list if enough people buy those. But tubeless tyres? This American obsession is really not as simple as is often expressed. They are NOT better in every way - far from it, particularly in isolated, rough terrain. Did you not notice that virtually no serious off-road models have tubeless wheels? Tubed tyres can always be repaired at the roadside, with a tube, levers and a source of air. Tubeless not so much. A tear on the sidewall, or a hole a 'plug' won't seal, and you're stuck. The tubeless tyre will need a tube, but you can't break the bead if you're on your own - only with great difficulty with someone else's sidestand. And whatever air source you are carrying is unlikely to be able to inflate the tubeless tyre back to the bead anyway. Tubeless spoked wheels are not as strong, nor as repairable when bent, as a tubed wheel. (Straightening them is a specialist job). Particularly in the case of the 21", with the larger diameter and peripheral spoke mounts for the tubeless, which might be why the Suzuki V-Strom 1000 has a tubeless rear and tubed front. And just for completeness - I never had a puncture on my Transalp yet, nor did I on my older adventure bike (in over 50,000 kms). My tubeless road bike, on the other hand... But I think many on here are kind of missing the point about this bike: it was built down to a price so we could easily afford them. So it won't break our heart if/when it falls over - a bit inevitable with a tall, heavy machine off road. So get over yourselves - if you insist on buying a Chinese bike with a KTM engine, do so. It will be heavier, have a noisier engine, uneven fuelling at low revs, and dealerships may be few and far between. KTM now having their own problems of course. Unfortunately the charming Aprilia also seems to suffer from this problem with parts availability, and in this country (Australia) the Aprilia costs a lot more. Here the Honda was $15,740 on the road, the heavier Suzuki $18,500, the Aprilia $22,500-ish. I liked the Aprilia very much, but it was definitely more off-road orientated than the Honda. Taller with the longer travel, shorter 1st and 6th gears, giving a less relaxed ride on the open road, or when setting off. Of course it 'rotates' front - rear with the longer travel, and is less suited to two-up. But a great machine in the right place - no question. I have done thousands of miles on dirt on the Honda, and ride dirt roads most days, but will always be doing more bitumen miles overall. Like my Pirelli STR Rally tyres, there will always be a compromise, which is a key word in this discussion. The Aprilia comes without a rear rack, the Suzuki comes with a plastic bash-plate and a tiny screen, and is much heavier, the Tenere much taller, and more top-heavy - you could criticise most of the alternatives for something. I have no desire to look as if I just got back from the Sahara. Personally I don't need a cruise control or quickshifter, and could well have done without all the ride modes, TC and ABS. After 62 years of riding (I started early) I prefer to do the riding myself! The fuel gauge I find perfectly adequate, given the knowledge that when the last bar starts flashing, it still has 3.7L left - enough for 80 kms (or 50 miles). I have never run out on it. And the fuel economy is stellar - able to do 400 kms (250 miles) to a tank. But after 21,000 kms I reckon this bike is a beauty, and cheap! Smooth, amazing fuel economy, and quite nice handling too. So easy to own, and a very relaxing ride. I made a lighter rear rack, fitted an Aussie bash-plate, and reckon this is a great machine. Four others I know have now also bought them, all of whom are also 50+ years experienced riders (and all worked on bikes professionally) so the Honda can't be that bad! One new Tenere, four new Transalps (apart from mine) and no new V-Stroms or Aprilias in our immediate group. I am due for a change of suspension fluids, and will start experimenting with improving the suspension, as this bike is definitely worth it. I can only suggest some of the critics take one out for a day, to ground their opinions in reality, and in the context of the alternatives in the same price range. This bike grows on you, and is so much better than many commentators on here reckon. Congratulations if you read this far, and thanks Kairyu for the original discussion.
I have a full playlist on all the mods I've done to my bike. Feel free to check it out. Only think left is suspension. In the usa ktm and Aprilia are not much more money but come set and ready to go, no need to viod a warranty with veridian cruise. Which wasn't as good as any oem I've ever had. But it's there. I'll keep my transalp because eive already done so much, but as I put in my 6 month review. I'm here now so it's good, but every warranty issue I've had (3 in 7 months), I need to take half the parts back off so they don't void the warranty. But all the issues have been parts hona outsourced. So I know the engine will last a good decade or quite a few. But the reliability king is yamaha and the 2025 has the same number of features as the transalp, but with premium suspension. And for not much more money than honda. Honda down graded the suspension for 2025. Not ideal. I'm not saying it's a bad bike, I'm just saying it's not 2026 anymore and honda offered less features for more money (in Japan even with inflation) than the 2016 tracer 900 gt from Yamaha. As far as tubeless, this isn't a dirt bike. Hondas gravel mode makes it clear this is a road bike that can entertain dirt roads. It's easy to use tubes I a tubeless wheel, it's annoying to change a tube on the side of the interstate with cars passing at 140kph. Hopefully my warranty is served well and I don't keep having tech troubles. But mechanically, it's a beast. As someone who lives in Japan with my Japanese family. If companies like honda don't start competing more aggressively with the rest of the world, the economy will continue to plunder. Honda doesn't need to change the bike as many people like yourself are very happy with the value. But yamaha offers standard, middle, and premium versions of their bikes (tracer, mt09, tenere) so each of use can get what we want without voiding warranties in the after market. Honda can offer a premium version at a premium price or just spruce up the OEM extras so that you can keep it simple and i can go ham with warranty in tact. Everybody wins. But don't doesn't seem to like the customer always being right. Honda come offer the extras and ktm would really be on trouble. But they don't. They wait to be reactive not proactive.
Well I just wasted an hour writing a detailed response to this discussion, as an owner who has covered 21,000 kms, worked on motorcycles for 50 years (and has been riding for 62 years) but it disappeared! Thanks UA-cam for doing this. Again. I might stop trying to help in this way now.
I just got my 2024 in September even though people kept telling me to wait for the 2025 and all the changes that would come on it! I am very happy I did not wait!! I got to enjoy 5K km of riding through the fall colors!
I'm tired of all the whining, in video after video and article after article, about what the Transalp "doesn't have" and "should have had". Here in Canada (and elsewhere I'm sure) Honda dealers have sold every single 2024. If they're really that "lacking", then why are they so popular? I currently own a 2014 KLR 650 which does not have cruise, tubeless tires, ABS, electronics, or adjustable suspension. It's buzzy as hell on the highway, and the single-cylinder engine puts out less than 40hp. 😆 Over the past 6 years I have ridden it over 20k km and had a fantastic time exploring back roads and trails. I've outgrown the KLR, and I'll be buying a 2025 Transalp. Despite its alleged shortcomings, it will be a huge upgrade in every way and is still very affordable compared to an African Twin, GS, Triumph, etc. If the TA isn't what you want, just buy something else.
I see your point, but it's not feeling well here. In 2 years I've only ever seen 2 that were not my own. 1 was a test ride rental and he didn't buy it. Most people that bought it only got it for it's reliability over European bikes, weight against suzuki, and some tech over the tenere. But it's almost 2025, not 2016. The european completion has had most of these features for a few years now, honda only has reliability and power. But your in Canada so it doesn't even win on power.
Totally agree with your comments. Enjoy your Transalp. If you can make it through my essay above, you should feel reassured about your plans. Most of the 'gripes' can be remedied from the accessory market, and you will have a ride that is lighter, smoother, more powerful, and with more relaxed revs/gearing than most alternatives in its price range. And for less money. Made sense to me, and I don't regret it for a moment. Well - apart from during the lengthy air element replacement process, but at least it wasn't very dirty (after 13,000 kms with a lot of dirt miles). But it should be easier next time... 😑
Personally as a 23 model Transalp owner , would have preferred a 19 inch front wheel option . With a wider tyre choice, this would improve cornering and reduce seat height . Not interested in cruise control,I want to ride not glide . Ambient temp gauge is cool.
I didn't 13hr 2 days ago, cruise was a big deal. But I get not everyone needs it. I've been looking into re-spoking a19 front. When my tire wears out it wouldn't be too expensive.
@KairyuRider would you go with a 17" rear and a wider rim. Be nice if 170/60/17 and 120/70/19 would go on. Need a 4.5 rear rim and probably a 3.0 front rim
@chrishart8548 the africa twin is a 19 front and 18 rear. I'd look at front only first. Electronics like speed-o are from rear wheel so front only is a lot let head ache
@KairyuRider going from a 21/90/90 to a 19/110/80 makes very little difference to the speedo anyway the tyre itself is actually a little taller. On most bikes it's so close the ABS doesn't even notice. Apparently going as small as a 17" will cause issues.
A discounted 2024 seems the smart buy. The 2025 "might" have a brighter headlight and will have an ambient temp gauge. But nothing else I can see worth while.
People will always find a reason to moan and complain about anything. In 2023 everyone was going nuts how GREAT the Transalp was, and now it's suddenly disappointing.... Yes, I did want tubeless tyres and we didn't get those but everything else in the 2025 mild facelift is nothing to frown at.
This is Honda’s problem they cant compete against there own products the CRF300 rally will never be bigger or it will compete against the NX the Transalp won’t get any more electronics or it will compete direct with the Africa each bike gets its own market segment. This is why companies like CF Moto (and Aprila) can make a bike as good as they can.
I've always felt no bikes really compete with each other in the big 4. Ninja doesn't compete with the R7. Every bike is somewhat of a compromise. Even in a head to head no bike wins it's more if you want one thing get this bike if you want the other thing get this bike. If you want cruise control better off getting something European.
Never said this before about Honda…but the Honda engineers and product managers for the TransAlp are inept. To think my initial complaint was limited to the Henry Ford curse of colour…any colour as long as it’s black. And now…make the suspension softer????
I'm not even sure I like the new front look better than our gen. Both are nice and I can't tell if I prefer one over another. The main upgrades should have been cruise and tubeless, these changes Honda made were not a priority at all. The bike like Transalp should have those as it's in its own category but yeah, we know they won't do it because of Africa. But I consider that to be wrong politics as Chinese brands brought new strategies to the table and they value the riders of different categories. Not everyone wants or needs the most expensive, biggest and heaviest bike. Time for Honda to update the approach for real.
Got late 2023 TA and still grinning. Honda also forgot fuel range on dash ... I immagine rear shock knob and DCT are out of the question too. Have to wait for next one or CFMoto 800 MTX ! PS. Perfect bike don't exist. Lamps
i would say to wait and see the test rides and we ll know better what have changed.but,this grey tenere,yes is tepting me.its just i m a 90% on road guy...
If you wait until 2025 is ready for a test ride, we will already be hearing rumors about 2026. Don't wait forever. DIY cruise and tubeless isn't that hard. But that's just my thought
@@jslawsby_W5GI some countries sites asy tubeless others say cruise. But honda hasn't made an official statement. Reliability aside, tuareg will be a better bike
Thats why the chinese bikes are becoming more and more popular they are giving us what we want Transalp no tubeless tyres no cruise control no buy simples
Transalp has been out years. Honda knows people feel this way, for some reason they don't care. Like japan as a whole, they really don't want to join the modern age
Yeah I'm at that spot I'm not sure what I'm going to do I want a bike but do I need to wait? BMW & Triumph seem to offer the only bikes that have everything you want but they're really expensive and Triumph has very few locations to get service done so I guess I'm going to be checking out BMWs... I don't know 😐
As a Transalp 700 owner the 750 was a disappointment from the beginning. Yes the 750 has 6 gear transmission and lots of power, things i would love to have. But then they give us tubes , no adjustable suspension, no cruise control, no backlight switches, no ambient temp, no skid plate, no handguards, no heated grips or saddle, no tyre pressure indicator. They gave me nothing to make me buy a new Transalp again. I have a lot of trouble already with my awful suspension, and tubed wheels i would never ever buy a bike without tubless wheels and fully adjustable suspension. Does the rear shock hurt your back like the 700 did? Because the 700 is so bad my wife had to take painkillers in some trips to be able to complete the trip.
No pain from the shock. It only a problem as you really start to push. Heated grips and the like are on offer just cost extra. I'm with you, I won't bike another bike that doesn't come with all the moder features. My bike is fully molded short of suspension.
@@DragoniteMotoJP I don't like the fact that you need to pay for a skid plate and handguards and adjustable suspension or a tubeless mod in a bike marketed as travel adventure or on off, when most of the competition have them on the base package. It's like going to a restaurant and have to pay for a fork or a spoon to eat your food. That's why Chinese sell like crazy, because you get the full package. And as i hear from owners they make them reliable too.
EICMA reports are rolling in that the suspension is going to be firmer. But, Cruise should be an option A small cost option to hold the settings should be available too with a waiver if the lawyers demand that Headlight is cool though as is the revised colour scheme on the black version
The new headlight looks kinda stupid in my opinion. It looks like it’s wearing a shitty pair of sunglasses. They had the opportunity to put a square or rectangular headlight on it and give it a unique retro look, something that none of the other adventure bikes are doing. But alas, another modern motorcycle that looks like an insect.
@Texasgolf all the European bikes have cruise as an optional extra even the much cheaper mt07 will have cruise as an option in 2025 Why not the t7... no idea Lots of sub 500cc bikes are getting tubless stock or as an option (royal Enfield, ktm390, cfmoto)
@human1513 every reason you want cruise in a car, this is my only transportation. Highways and that sort. But here is a video where I explain my personal need for it ua-cam.com/video/eN1odk7X9Hk/v-deo.htmlsi=6_e-nfcZOiZK4JuU
I do not get what these ****** from Honda did. Whole World wanted tubelees tires, better suspension, CC and they... painted this motorcycle with new color. F joke.
Honda and Japan as a whole are very conservative and avoid any change till it's too late. The country has had population decline since the late 70s. But they only added paid parent benefits (informed by law) in the last decade. But mem still don't get those benefits if compony just says no... Honda will wait till profit margins get critical before they realize most if us don't want an africatwin
Hi Kairyu .. i share same thoughts .. also nice Chanel :) ..i also own a 2024 TA as my first Bike ... drivin`it from 0 to now almost 8000 km ... maybe in the future you will please consider making a video on Chain adjustments for TA ..would be usseful or nice to know :).. Best regards from Austria!
@ffradu7628 thank you and thank you. So far mine doesn't need it. But I'll try to remember when it does. Worth looking for videos online about chains. It's not too hard and many bikes are 5he same
Probably a typo, but the Spanish version of Honda official page for the Transalp 2025 specs says it has cruise control. We can dream :)
That would be great
Maybe they are panicking over all the frustration of every review and Chinese bikes eat their lunch.
Fyi, Portuguese website guarantees cruise control, quick shift is optional and tubeless tires.
Also, the new gray color is sick.
@apollosurfer that would be great if true
If you could share links
Thats not true , im in Portugal and that info isnt there@@apollosurfer
@@joaorocha144 have you checked the website and tried to configure your own bike?
I see cruise control there under "Instrumentos e Eletrônicos".
Quick shifter is displayed under "Transmissão"
The only thing I coulsnt confirm but seen many people reporting, is the tubeless tires.
Just a general response here, from an owner who has done 21,000 kms on a 2023 model. Sorry it's a bit long.
A lot of complaints on here - most stridently from people saying they wouldn't buy one (and probably never rode one) - not so many complaints from those who have done serious miles on them, apart from Kairyu himself. More riding and less whingeing would be my prescription for the non-owners... Yes, this model doesn't have some of the features people seem to be preoccupied about, which come on models which often cost twice as much, or come out of China. Personally I think the lack of an ambient temperature gauge and oil window were mistakes, only one of which has been addressed on the newer model, but I think we need to remember where this model was aimed at in the market.
But cruise control is available as an option from Veridian, and will probably join the Honda accessory list if enough people buy those. But tubeless tyres? This American obsession is really not as simple as is often expressed. They are NOT better in every way - far from it, particularly in isolated, rough terrain. Did you not notice that virtually no serious off-road models have tubeless wheels? Tubed tyres can always be repaired at the roadside, with a tube, levers and a source of air. Tubeless not so much. A tear on the sidewall, or a hole a 'plug' won't seal, and you're stuck. The tubeless tyre will need a tube, but you can't break the bead if you're on your own - only with great difficulty with someone else's sidestand. And whatever air source you are carrying is unlikely to be able to inflate the tubeless tyre back to the bead anyway.
Tubeless spoked wheels are not as strong, nor as repairable when bent, as a tubed wheel. (Straightening them is a specialist job). Particularly in the case of the 21", with the larger diameter and peripheral spoke mounts for the tubeless, which might be why the Suzuki V-Strom 1000 has a tubeless rear and tubed front. And just for completeness - I never had a puncture on my Transalp yet, nor did I on my older adventure bike (in over 50,000 kms). My tubeless road bike, on the other hand...
But I think many on here are kind of missing the point about this bike: it was built down to a price so we could easily afford them. So it won't break our heart if/when it falls over - a bit inevitable with a tall, heavy machine off road. So get over yourselves - if you insist on buying a Chinese bike with a KTM engine, do so. It will be heavier, have a noisier engine, uneven fuelling at low revs, and dealerships may be few and far between. KTM now having their own problems of course. Unfortunately the charming Aprilia also seems to suffer from this problem with parts availability, and in this country (Australia) the Aprilia costs a lot more. Here the Honda was $15,740 on the road, the heavier Suzuki $18,500, the Aprilia $22,500-ish. I liked the Aprilia very much, but it was definitely more off-road orientated than the Honda. Taller with the longer travel, shorter 1st and 6th gears, giving a less relaxed ride on the open road, or when setting off. Of course it 'rotates' front - rear with the longer travel, and is less suited to two-up. But a great machine in the right place - no question. I have done thousands of miles on dirt on the Honda, and ride dirt roads most days, but will always be doing more bitumen miles overall. Like my Pirelli STR Rally tyres, there will always be a compromise, which is a key word in this discussion.
The Aprilia comes without a rear rack, the Suzuki comes with a plastic bash-plate and a tiny screen, and is much heavier, the Tenere much taller, and more top-heavy - you could criticise most of the alternatives for something. I have no desire to look as if I just got back from the Sahara. Personally I don't need a cruise control or quickshifter, and could well have done without all the ride modes, TC and ABS. After 62 years of riding (I started early) I prefer to do the riding myself! The fuel gauge I find perfectly adequate, given the knowledge that when the last bar starts flashing, it still has 3.7L left - enough for 80 kms (or 50 miles). I have never run out on it. And the fuel economy is stellar - able to do 400 kms (250 miles) to a tank. But after 21,000 kms I reckon this bike is a beauty, and cheap! Smooth, amazing fuel economy, and quite nice handling too. So easy to own, and a very relaxing ride. I made a lighter rear rack, fitted an Aussie bash-plate, and reckon this is a great machine. Four others I know have now also bought them, all of whom are also 50+ years experienced riders (and all worked on bikes professionally) so the Honda can't be that bad! One new Tenere, four new Transalps (apart from mine) and no new V-Stroms or Aprilias in our immediate group.
I am due for a change of suspension fluids, and will start experimenting with improving the suspension, as this bike is definitely worth it. I can only suggest some of the critics take one out for a day, to ground their opinions in reality, and in the context of the alternatives in the same price range. This bike grows on you, and is so much better than many commentators on here reckon. Congratulations if you read this far, and thanks Kairyu for the original discussion.
I have a full playlist on all the mods I've done to my bike.
Feel free to check it out.
Only think left is suspension.
In the usa ktm and Aprilia are not much more money but come set and ready to go, no need to viod a warranty with veridian cruise. Which wasn't as good as any oem I've ever had. But it's there.
I'll keep my transalp because eive already done so much, but as I put in my 6 month review. I'm here now so it's good, but every warranty issue I've had (3 in 7 months), I need to take half the parts back off so they don't void the warranty.
But all the issues have been parts hona outsourced. So I know the engine will last a good decade or quite a few.
But the reliability king is yamaha and the 2025 has the same number of features as the transalp, but with premium suspension. And for not much more money than honda.
Honda down graded the suspension for 2025. Not ideal.
I'm not saying it's a bad bike, I'm just saying it's not 2026 anymore and honda offered less features for more money (in Japan even with inflation) than the 2016 tracer 900 gt from Yamaha.
As far as tubeless, this isn't a dirt bike. Hondas gravel mode makes it clear this is a road bike that can entertain dirt roads.
It's easy to use tubes I a tubeless wheel, it's annoying to change a tube on the side of the interstate with cars passing at 140kph.
Hopefully my warranty is served well and I don't keep having tech troubles. But mechanically, it's a beast.
As someone who lives in Japan with my Japanese family. If companies like honda don't start competing more aggressively with the rest of the world, the economy will continue to plunder.
Honda doesn't need to change the bike as many people like yourself are very happy with the value.
But yamaha offers standard, middle, and premium versions of their bikes (tracer, mt09, tenere) so each of use can get what we want without voiding warranties in the after market. Honda can offer a premium version at a premium price or just spruce up the OEM extras so that you can keep it simple and i can go ham with warranty in tact. Everybody wins.
But don't doesn't seem to like the customer always being right. Honda come offer the extras and ktm would really be on trouble. But they don't. They wait to be reactive not proactive.
Well I just wasted an hour writing a detailed response to this discussion, as an owner who has covered 21,000 kms, worked on motorcycles for 50 years (and has been riding for 62 years) but it disappeared! Thanks UA-cam for doing this. Again. I might stop trying to help in this way now.
Oh look - it has reappeared! I was just getting annoyed too. Perhaps they wanted to read it first. 😊
I just got my 2024 in September even though people kept telling me to wait for the 2025 and all the changes that would come on it! I am very happy I did not wait!! I got to enjoy 5K km of riding through the fall colors!
@@thedriver8174 brilliant.
There is always a bike coming soon, so if you find a winner just go for it. Or you'll wait for ever
I'm tired of all the whining, in video after video and article after article, about what the Transalp "doesn't have" and "should have had". Here in Canada (and elsewhere I'm sure) Honda dealers have sold every single 2024. If they're really that "lacking", then why are they so popular? I currently own a 2014 KLR 650 which does not have cruise, tubeless tires, ABS, electronics, or adjustable suspension. It's buzzy as hell on the highway, and the single-cylinder engine puts out less than 40hp. 😆 Over the past 6 years I have ridden it over 20k km and had a fantastic time exploring back roads and trails.
I've outgrown the KLR, and I'll be buying a 2025 Transalp. Despite its alleged shortcomings, it will be a huge upgrade in every way and is still very affordable compared to an African Twin, GS, Triumph, etc.
If the TA isn't what you want, just buy something else.
I see your point, but it's not feeling well here. In 2 years I've only ever seen 2 that were not my own. 1 was a test ride rental and he didn't buy it.
Most people that bought it only got it for it's reliability over European bikes, weight against suzuki, and some tech over the tenere.
But it's almost 2025, not 2016. The european completion has had most of these features for a few years now, honda only has reliability and power. But your in Canada so it doesn't even win on power.
Totally agree with your comments. Enjoy your Transalp. If you can make it through my essay above, you should feel reassured about your plans. Most of the 'gripes' can be remedied from the accessory market, and you will have a ride that is lighter, smoother, more powerful, and with more relaxed revs/gearing than most alternatives in its price range. And for less money. Made sense to me, and I don't regret it for a moment. Well - apart from during the lengthy air element replacement process, but at least it wasn't very dirty (after 13,000 kms with a lot of dirt miles). But it should be easier next time... 😑
Personally as a 23 model Transalp owner , would have preferred a 19 inch front wheel option .
With a wider tyre choice, this would improve cornering and reduce seat height .
Not interested in cruise control,I want to ride not glide .
Ambient temp gauge is cool.
I didn't 13hr 2 days ago, cruise was a big deal. But I get not everyone needs it.
I've been looking into re-spoking a19 front. When my tire wears out it wouldn't be too expensive.
@KairyuRider would you go with a 17" rear and a wider rim. Be nice if 170/60/17 and 120/70/19 would go on. Need a 4.5 rear rim and probably a 3.0 front rim
@chrishart8548 the africa twin is a 19 front and 18 rear.
I'd look at front only first.
Electronics like speed-o are from rear wheel so front only is a lot let head ache
@KairyuRider going from a 21/90/90 to a 19/110/80 makes very little difference to the speedo anyway the tyre itself is actually a little taller. On most bikes it's so close the ABS doesn't even notice. Apparently going as small as a 17" will cause issues.
Thank god I got €750 off the 2024 new one here in Ireland - I'm So Soooooo happy I did not hold for the 2025 one - Great Bike !! I love it ----
A discounted 2024 seems the smart buy.
The 2025 "might" have a brighter headlight and will have an ambient temp gauge. But nothing else I can see worth while.
Best and most hilarious review I have ever seen job very well done !
@rjeepster8640 thank you very much.😁
People will always find a reason to moan and complain about anything. In 2023 everyone was going nuts how GREAT the Transalp was, and now it's suddenly disappointing....
Yes, I did want tubeless tyres and we didn't get those but everything else in the 2025 mild facelift is nothing to frown at.
Spot on Kairyu + retaining tubes. The only real change is external temp gauge. Seems like the only argument for upgrading current TA’22 I own 🤪
I have a second video where some countries might be getting cruise and tubeless but I have those
You are right! So mediocre customer acknowledgement from Honda.
This is Honda’s problem they cant compete against there own products the CRF300 rally will never be bigger or it will compete against the NX the Transalp won’t get any more electronics or it will compete direct with the Africa each bike gets its own market segment. This is why companies like CF Moto (and Aprila) can make a bike as good as they can.
I'd buy aprilia no question if reliable
I've always felt no bikes really compete with each other in the big 4. Ninja doesn't compete with the R7. Every bike is somewhat of a compromise. Even in a head to head no bike wins it's more if you want one thing get this bike if you want the other thing get this bike. If you want cruise control better off getting something European.
Never said this before about Honda…but the Honda engineers and product managers for the TransAlp are inept. To think my initial complaint was limited to the Henry Ford curse of colour…any colour as long as it’s black. And now…make the suspension softer????
Customer is always right if the color is orange and the dealer is close
Team red doesn't care to modernize. Like most of Japan
Perfect overview 🎉🎉🎉
I'm not even sure I like the new front look better than our gen. Both are nice and I can't tell if I prefer one over another.
The main upgrades should have been cruise and tubeless, these changes Honda made were not a priority at all.
The bike like Transalp should have those as it's in its own category but yeah, we know they won't do it because of Africa.
But I consider that to be wrong politics as Chinese brands brought new strategies to the table and they value the riders of different categories.
Not everyone wants or needs the most expensive, biggest and heaviest bike.
Time for Honda to update the approach for real.
this argument is made iver and over.
Mt07 figured it out, so did ktm 390 adv. But not honda
@KairyuRider yes, you're right. MT07 with automatic shifter has cruise control. The naked bike has it and Transalp doesn't...
@veljkovic92 right. Sport does, touring doesn't. Wierd choices
Got late 2023 TA and still grinning.
Honda also forgot fuel range on dash ...
I immagine rear shock knob and
DCT are out of the question too.
Have to wait for next one or
CFMoto 800 MTX !
PS. Perfect bike don't exist.
Lamps
You and I will keep our bikes a bit longer😅
i would say to wait and see the test rides and we ll know better what have changed.but,this grey tenere,yes is tepting me.its just i m a 90% on road guy...
If you wait until 2025 is ready for a test ride, we will already be hearing rumors about 2026.
Don't wait forever.
DIY cruise and tubeless isn't that hard. But that's just my thought
Great video! Thank you.
Was waiting to see the 2025 but now I’m going with a 2024 Tuareg for a couple k’s off as there isn’t a lot I really care about on that update in 2025
@@jslawsby_W5GI some countries sites asy tubeless others say cruise.
But honda hasn't made an official statement.
Reliability aside, tuareg will be a better bike
Thats why the chinese bikes are becoming more and more popular they are giving us what we want
Transalp no tubeless tyres no cruise control no buy simples
Transalp has been out years. Honda knows people feel this way, for some reason they don't care.
Like japan as a whole, they really don't want to join the modern age
I think you nailed it.
@tonyjourneyman1944 thank you, I did my best
Yeah I'm at that spot I'm not sure what I'm going to do I want a bike but do I need to wait? BMW & Triumph seem to offer the only bikes that have everything you want but they're really expensive and Triumph has very few locations to get service done so I guess I'm going to be checking out BMWs... I don't know 😐
The bmw F450gs concept has my interest
I was hoping to ditch my NC750X DCT for a new Transalp with DCT. Guess I'll go to Yamaha instead.
Lots of people agree with you.
Mt07 Y-AMT, corbin seat, Windscreen.
@@DragoniteMotoJP Indeed. Or the Tracer 7 if they decide to equip it with AMT.
@vinterskog that was never sold in Japan, so no opinion there
Time to change the firm that doesn't listen to customers. Go for royal Enfield, cfmoto, voge . Cheaper but well equipped.
Rare dealers in Japan. Less power, wouldn't buy from anyone working with KTM. To risky
As a Transalp 700 owner the 750 was a disappointment from the beginning. Yes the 750 has 6 gear transmission and lots of power, things i would love to have. But then they give us tubes , no adjustable suspension, no cruise control, no backlight switches, no ambient temp, no skid plate, no handguards, no heated grips or saddle, no tyre pressure indicator. They gave me nothing to make me buy a new Transalp again. I have a lot of trouble already with my awful suspension, and tubed wheels i would never ever buy a bike without tubless wheels and fully adjustable suspension. Does the rear shock hurt your back like the 700 did? Because the 700 is so bad my wife had to take painkillers in some trips to be able to complete the trip.
No pain from the shock. It only a problem as you really start to push.
Heated grips and the like are on offer just cost extra.
I'm with you, I won't bike another bike that doesn't come with all the moder features.
My bike is fully molded short of suspension.
@@DragoniteMotoJP I don't like the fact that you need to pay for a skid plate and handguards and adjustable suspension or a tubeless mod in a bike marketed as travel adventure or on off, when most of the competition have them on the base package. It's like going to a restaurant and have to pay for a fork or a spoon to eat your food. That's why Chinese sell like crazy, because you get the full package. And as i hear from owners they make them reliable too.
@nikosf3n honda, like the rest of Japan, will have to evolve or fade out of the market
i wonder if it ll continue be made in japan....couse these switches and dashes are used in models made in thailand
We will see.
But I'll keep mine
@@DragoniteMotoJP of course you must keep it.its one year bike.if you sell it you should go for something else.not transalp again.
@thodoris3790 right.
So this or sport tourer
Feel like they make it like this so people would buy/upgrade to Africa twin instead.... but who knows
It's exactly that
But the africa twin is worse in most real world situations
Yamaha gave all features on mt07 bit people will buy mt09
Don't buy it if you want Honda to hear you
You buy first and complain later
This is not how it works 😅
I'm not buying it😅
But I'm also not buying an africa twin
I didnt buy in 24 and i wont be buying in 25 tenere has my money
EICMA reports are rolling in that the suspension is going to be firmer.
But,
Cruise should be an option
A small cost option to hold the settings should be available too with a waiver if the lawyers demand that
Headlight is cool though as is the revised colour scheme on the black version
@@peterturner830 honda is honda. Rather safe and sorry
I believe more firm rear, softer front
The new headlight looks kinda stupid in my opinion. It looks like it’s wearing a shitty pair of sunglasses. They had the opportunity to put a square or rectangular headlight on it and give it a unique retro look, something that none of the other adventure bikes are doing. But alas, another modern motorcycle that looks like an insect.
@@theeschatechannel2854 fair point.
My ideal by is Japanese reliability in a nordan 901.
No tubeless wheels...no can buy! 🏍️💨💨
Amen
So no Suzuki or Yamaha or Kawasaki or. So many don’t have tubeless or cruise
It’s under 10,000
@Texasgolf all the European bikes have cruise as an optional extra even the much cheaper mt07 will have cruise as an option in 2025
Why not the t7... no idea
Lots of sub 500cc bikes are getting tubless stock or as an option (royal Enfield, ktm390, cfmoto)
Why do some want cruise control? It is a motorcycle to be ridden and controlled by the rider.
@human1513 every reason you want cruise in a car, this is my only transportation. Highways and that sort.
But here is a video where I explain my personal need for it
ua-cam.com/video/eN1odk7X9Hk/v-deo.htmlsi=6_e-nfcZOiZK4JuU
Yep, not impressed also.
Maybe the 2027 model will have something useful...maybe lol
I do not get what these ****** from Honda did. Whole World wanted tubelees tires, better suspension, CC and they... painted this motorcycle with new color. F joke.
Honda and Japan as a whole are very conservative and avoid any change till it's too late.
The country has had population decline since the late 70s. But they only added paid parent benefits (informed by law) in the last decade. But mem still don't get those benefits if compony just says no...
Honda will wait till profit margins get critical before they realize most if us don't want an africatwin
Yeah pretty lukewarm
Hi Kairyu .. i share same thoughts .. also nice Chanel :) ..i also own a 2024 TA as my first Bike ... drivin`it from 0 to now almost 8000 km ... maybe in the future you will please consider making a video on Chain adjustments for TA ..would be usseful or nice to know :).. Best regards from Austria!
@ffradu7628 thank you and thank you.
So far mine doesn't need it. But I'll try to remember when it does.
Worth looking for videos online about chains. It's not too hard and many bikes are 5he same
the 2026 model is being changed from transalp to lgbtialp
Forget it, Honda doesn't care, Voge is a much better buy, get over the anti Chinese bias and embrace the new world.
Fit and finish will be better on honda.
Not to be to political, but as a fan of the usa's 13th amendment, I won't be buying chinese.
2025 traNsMEH