Confusion surrounding tubeless & cruise on the new Transalp. I based this video on the UK press release sent to me this morning, which made no mention of either. However, some keen-eyed viewers in other countries have commented that their Honda websites are saying that tubeless & cruise control will, in fact, now be offered. Misinformation really isn’t my thing, so I apologise for any confusion inadvertently caused😐
Surely we can only say Honda missed a trick not fitting tubeless, if more buyers wanted tubeless than tubed, without the figures on both we won't know. If I wanted an adventure bike to go adventuring, I personally would welcome tubed tyres.
I sold my transalp 750 for two reasons, no tubeless and no cruise control. Yes I knew that before I bought the bike but after one puncture and being unable to repair it + a few long days on the motor way without cruise control sealed the deal for me and now im back on a Tracer 9GT which is the perfect bike for me.
Apart from the aesthetics (which are personal preference) and the low max load (which only comes into the picture if you’re a bigger fella) the Tracer 9 really is a great package. Same goes for the Tracer 7 really. Brilliant bikes from team blue.
You are spot on! I was totally ready to upgrade from my 2017 Africa Twin until I realized the Transalp was lacking the tubeless and the cruise control.
About the only “upgrade” - i have had NC’s in the past and the single disk was just fine - using the Hornet / Transalp engine would have been an upgrade
@@marklevy9 that would not gonna work for so many reasons. This engine design allowed them to pivot the block and make room for the compartment and of course do to an ex car engine its low rpm with extreme low fuel consumption, what the transalp engine have not.
@@marklevy9 So far I have read in Motoleaks, Honda is developing a Hybrid motor for the X-ADV. A revolutionary motor wich combines 3 motors in one. 2 electrical (one for town and the other for highway) and a normal combustion motor (wich also loads the batteries). I assume that this will be fitted into the same chasis of the Forza 750 and the NC 750. The revolutionary thing is that it will only consume 1 liter per 100 km. But I do not expect it in the coming four years (wich I think will be the lifespan of this 2025 model).
These days not having tubules tires is a big miss. I recently got a flat on my T120, that resulted in killing half a day to get a ride, get my trailer and retrieve the bike. A flat earlier this year on my Tiger meant 15 minute plug repair and I was on my way. This has me rethinking my T120 or at least where I will ride it.
@@tompGA "most" riders these days are over 60 and we all started riding before tubeless tyres existed. So "most" can do a tube repair. I think it's perfectly fine to not want to though. I certainly had a great deal of trepidation upon being faced with my first tubeless flat. With night falling, alone, a hundred km from mobile reception I was a little nervous. But I learnt the skill of how to ride 200 km home on a flat front. (A slight weave did the trick, as the bike was unstable in a straight line, but tracked nicely with a little curve). None of my tyre repair tools helped a cracked wheel hold air, so it was that or walk!
Good review as always. Still got my TA 11k miles, added cruise (didn’t need to splice into the brake cable), converted rear wheel to tubeless and replaced rear shock. It’s made a great bike better. I will take the risk on the warranty (it’s a Honda not a BMW, Ducati or Triumph) S regards insurance I’m not convinced it wil be an issue, may only it with it off, but only worth less than 5k now anyway.
Having now tested a Voge DS900X AND a Transalp I think the Voge is the better bike with superior ride and handling, especially with a pillion. My only concern with the Voge is Warranty support (local dealer has a strong reputation). However, other than weight the DS has much more equipment, better parts and a longer warranty. The Honda may have got my hard earned cash IF it had cruise and tubeless (which is MUCH less hassle) but not a chance now…..Honda need to up their game!
Tubeless tyres are essential in my opinion are a dealbreaker/maker. I have a CB500F which had a nasty thin black piece of wire puncture the rear tyre . Put the bike on the centre-stand ,drag out the puncture repair kit from the top box,do the business.No need to disassemble the rear end of the bike ,put in a new tube and get covered in chain grease etc. Cruise control with all the revenue gathering speed cameras we have in Australia 🇦🇺. I have adaptive cruise control in my car. Yamaha Tracer 9GT has it - brilliant.
@@TheDervManBecause it's their top of the line scooter type bike. Afrike is top of the line adventure and that's why they don't want Transalp to have it. Very simple when looking from business perspective.
That new twin brake up front needs a mention. I have a 2014 NC750X and if I could change one thing it would be that. Well done Honda. And great vid. Thanks
You're right, I failed to mention the second brake disc, and it is important. Completely changed the front end of the CB500X when they gave that a twin-disc setup a couple of years ago. Thanks for your input :)
I always smile at seat heights because its not the seat height that gets me, being 6ft tall, it's actually getting aboard in the first place being in my seventies. I tried an NX in May and struggled so much I bruised the inside of my right leg on the passenger grips getting on it and pulled a hamstring getting off it. Sounds comical but it was really painful I loved the bike it didn't love me.
My 2014 NC feels unfortunately like a brand new bike after last service... Yes, it misses TFT, LED, has no rider modes, but I still enjoy it very much. Even sold my hornet. The curviest roads i prefer to ride do not need more power, maybe just sometimes, for overtaking faster bikes ... :D The new transalp and hornet headlights are unfortunately not fitting my preferences. Did you notice the rebirth of smaller bikes? Suzuki DR-Z4S , BMW GS 450 ... I am looking forward to this trend!
I wouldn't want a TFT or rider modes. Wouldn't the LED headlight from the next version drop straight in anyway. Looks like on the cb500x it would. When I was looking they had both bikes side by side.
Honda could have tweaked the 750cc to provide higher hp/torque numbers at higher revs. Marketing gimmicks really, the 69Nm/4750rpm is what you use on the road with legendary reliability and fuel consumption.
You got it wrong on the suspension, mate! The rear shock offers more damping now. Only the front forks, which were already great before, now have a slightly softer tune. The overall suspension setup (balance) is now better.
have they actually made a change to 2025? More damping is handy but wont help fix the problem. The rear end is woefully under-sprung (ie; 40% sag for an 80kg rider at FULL preload) so needs to be re-sprung and re-tuned for western markets. The forks only have a single damping cartridge in one leg as well as being terribly under-sprung as well. The 2022/23 bike must be one of the softest bikes on the market = a borderline dangerous bike to ride hard, bottoming out on even rougher asphalt roads. If they have improved this it would be good to get some information out to the masses.
Agree about the attractions of tubeless (and I had a Mk1 XLV600 Transalp on which I had multiple adventures, both on and off road, including supermoto racing, 'back in the day'; those early rims were notorious for rotting, as were those of the early Dominator 650s). I'm not so bothered about cruise control - I did 12,000 miles on my Africa Twin 1100 without using it once! I'm surprised you didn't mention the huge difference in power between the NC750X and the Transalp: 58bhp vs 90bhp! The big attraction of the Transalp 750 for me is that it's so much lighter than the Africa Twin, yet has almost as much power. If you drop an Africa Twin, it's a bastard to pick up; if you drop a Transalp, it's no harder to pick up than an air-cooled single-cylinder Dommie 650 (guess how I know?!). The Transalp is also a hell of a lot cheaper than an Africa Twin! As for the NC750X's lack of power, with 'only' 58bhp, everything is relative. Remember, the original Honda CB750 of 1969 only had 58bhp, as did the original Triumph Triples and the fire-breathing Kawasaki 500 triple two-strokes only had 60bhp...I'm also into maxiscooters and the porky Suzuki Burger King 650 only has 55bhp and the rapier-like Yamaha Tmax a piffling 46bhp, but both will crack the ton with ease...I loved the quirky Vultus, with the same engine as the NC and now I really want to have a go on a Forza 750...
I really like my Honda ADV 350 with its ‘pathetic’ 30hp, use it every day at least once or twice. I’ve tried the Forza 750 briefly and it is rapid. Pity it’s so expensive, though, and under-seat storage is half what the 350 offers🙁 Thanks for your input😊👍
@@RocketMan_Moto Shocked to hear about the Forza 750's limited underseat space - that's one of the big pluses of the Burgmen, both 400 & 650, room for 2 full-face helmets. I rather fancy an ADV 750 because it would make some kind of ultimate off-road maxiscooter. However, it's a shame about the 15in rear wheel because AFAIK there aren't any 15 inch tyres available with proper off-road capability. (I did hear of a Greek guy who modified his to take a 17in rear and then raced it in the Gibraltar to Greece rally with considerable success!). I actually did a considerable amount of trail riding on my old Honda CN250 Helix, despite its 10 inch road rear wheel!
Oh be still my heart and wait for confirmation on the tubeless option from the Honda dealer in my city. But if RM's update on the tires and CC are true, then, well, just take my money already! I was however incorrect about the switchgear in my earlier comment. The left switchgear looks indeed identical to the NX500 one, but where on the NX500 that button is for switching off the TC, on the TransAlp this button has been repurposed for the Mode switch. The little button under the ignition switch is for the hazzard lights. I'm also happy to see ambient temperature on the clock, bat can't figure out what else has been changed on the display. Honda websites in Europe are confusing though, some say it has CC, some say it doesn't even have a quickshifter. No consistency and a lot of "temporary" information I think. And configurators always seem to link to the 2023 model. I feel like a kid before Xmas. No patience at all... :)
I bought an Africa Twin AS in part because it has tubed tires. In the last 17 years, I've ridden about 100, 000 miles and had exactly one flat. I picked up a utility knife blade through the carcass of the rear tire of the ATAS. I do not believe I could have plugged that gash in the tire, so if I'd been on a long trip with tubeless tires, I could have been in trouble. I believe I could have patched the tube. As it was, I had a spare tube at home, so I changed the tube. I don't have a compressor, so I can't set the bead on a tubeless tire. I can, however, inflate any tubed tire with any air pump, allowing me to change my own tires.
Couldn't agree more with your appraisal about the Transalp. 3 things I would like to see is cruise control, tubeless tyres AND adjustable windscreen. Doing highway work I like the screen to offer more wind/weather protection, then be able to put it down when doing slower speeds, particularly in our warm weather here in Australia. I'm NEVER going to buy an Africa Twin so Honda will potentially miss out on my money as I am in my mid 60's looking to downsize to a more manageable bike to meet my needs. Here's hoping Honda listen regarding the next reiteration.
I have a 2024 Transalp. I can survive with the tires and Im aftermarketing a cruisecontrol. But what really annoys me is the incredible bad headlight. Its worse than an old flashlight from the 80s. Sure I am installing auxilliary lights but they will only help when I blast fully with my lights. Something I cannot drive around with when meeting traffic.
Being able to plug my own tire while in the middle of nowhere is more important to me than cruise control (which I can add). But what I wanna know is, does the user programming resets every time you shut the key off? Now THAT is an annoyance that is keeping a lot of buyers from pulling the trigger. (along w/ no tubeless). Cheers and ride safe!!
you always can raise the seat height comfortably with a million of different kind of cushions on the market. I have used airhawk for many years and it can raise it near an inch easily and your butts will appreciate it greatly.
The first thing a YT reviewer will talk about is the horsepower produced by a bike. That's probably reasonable as a lot of motorcycle purchasers care a good deal about that. There are however a group of buyers who don't care. I have a 2014 NC750X that I bought last year. I'm not in the least emotionally attached to it but I love the kind of riding it's so good at. It's not powerful and the suspension is budget but for running errands and general commuting, it's as good as it gets. I love how the motor is a long stroke design that is so well behaved at 2000 rpm putting around town. I can't think of another 750 cc bike that uses less fuel than the NC. Performing a valve adjustment can be done by the owner with not a lot of fuss. The other thing I would say about the NC is that it doesn't really have competitors. If you want a middleweight naked, there are lots of choices. Ditto with middleweight or premium adventure bikes. This may not apply in other parts of the world (I'm in Canada,) but there really aren't any other models quite like the NC750X.
@@RocketMan_Motosometimes it might be very misleading. I think it applies to NC750X. I got mine 2022 (standard tranny) 3 months ago and having Tracer 900 GT at the same time I still can’t believe how much fun this bike can be. And that’s 58 vs 115 HP…
I'm seriously disappointed that they didn't address the tubed tires issue. Had they fixed that, I would have put my order in this month. 😢 Now I'll have to wait for RM's testride of the Tiger Sport 800. The new luggage for the TA looks worse than the old one. Fortunately that's still available. The new looks are a slight improvement, but not spectacularly so. Am not a fan of the huge lettering. The switchgear on the left looks the same as on the NX500, but is missing the mode button? And what's the button under the start engine switch? There's a good chance I'll go for it despite the lack of tubeless, unless RM can report positive fact on comfort and knee angle on the TTS800, in comparison to the Transalp. EDIT: after a second look, if this is indeed the controls taken from the NX500, then you can turn off traction control directly now. The button under the ignition switch looks like the mode button. Which I like. But still no peripheral bar in the cockpit? Why not? I'm holding out a secret hope that maybe they'll add tubeless rims as an option in the configurator.
Pinned post at the top of the comments......."@RocketMan_MotoConfusion has arisen re. tubeless & cruise on the new Transalp. I based this video on the UK press release sent to me this morning, which made no mention of either. However, some keen-eyed viewers in other countries have pointed out that their Honda websites state that tubeless & cruise control are, in fact, now being offered. Misinformation really isn’t my thing, so I apologise for any confusion inadvertently caused😐", He really should pull this video and address his mistakes....
I would get the Nc750x but i'm 1.86cm 110 kg and people that drove are telling me that is not comfortable for taller people and also the bottom touches the speed bumps when you have a pillion on the bike...Otherwise perfect machine but i wish the made is bit better for taller people and with better ground clearance
FINALLY, front double disc brakes on NC, but (unfortunately) the same (short) front and rear suspensions. As for Transalp, I think Honda is saving tubeless (with 19 inch front) tyres for a road oriented version which could arrive in a year or two. However, I doubt even that version will come with cruise control
I actually passed up buying an Africa twin because they took way too long to get here and when they did show up it didn't have any of the features that the dealership advertised to me. I was considering the transalp until the Africa twins did show up and I came to realize that the Africa twin isn't that much bigger than the trans alp and kind of left me wondering what role the trans alp actually fills. If I was looking for a lower CC bike I would probably lean towards the NC-750X if it wasn't for the fact that I've heard bad things about the suspension on that bike. Also for whatever reason all the ones that The dealers have are DCT for some reason and that's another big no for me.
Love the upgrades, bike is getting closer to what we want, but agree with most others that cruise and tubless are still deal breakers for me. Living in outback Australia they are essential.
tubeless in the outback could be a problem if the plug comes out or leaks. tubes can be repaired or replaced and the tyres are not that hard to get off the bead.
Unfortunately, Honda hasn't made the changes I wanted on the Transalp. I'm less bothered about cruise control but was hoping for a version with a smaller font wheel and tubeless tyres, ideally with alloys. I test rode one earlier this year and was hoping for such changes, but I'll look towards one of the road oriented versions of the Triumph Tiger 900 now. The NC750X has the improvements I was expecting (twin discs, new instruments and adjustable screen), but I'm disappointed with it not having any more horsepower. I have this engine in a Forza 750, and its really torquey but could do with a bit more top end. All in all, the NC has had a much better upgrade than the Transalp.
I was sold on the Transalp until I rode it....I bought a Tiger 850 Sport instead, which isn't pretending to be anything other than what it is....a comfortable, road bike with adv styling (and tubeless tyres!)
You can get V Strom 800 with 19” front and tubeless tires. Btw I wonder what would be the percentage of rider that want 19” front vs 21”. The same applies to tubes vs tubeless. To me is pretty obvious but Honda might have problem with that.
Thanks for a good review. I’ve got a NC750S, goes stops etc but a little boring. The new one looks way better. I’m contemplating a new R1250R, I fancy a little more guts.
The TA front light is better but it’s still a bit weird! The “eyes” are too small and close together. It looks best from the side and that tells me that it’s not yet fixed . I’m a Honda guy but lusting after Suzukis like the SV650, 8S and DR-Z4S.
I find so silly that Honda doesn't listen its customers and their requests. Tubeless and cruise are missing again. It's a shame, Honda wants to lose and it's their own choice.
The point is.....Honda isn't losing, they are in there second best year ever for motorcycle sales. Very good quality at a very competitive price. Look at the new Hornet 750 and Hornet 1000 prices.... bargains! Here in Belgium the Hornet 750 is cheaper then the CF-moto NK800 and comes standard with 5 year waranty.
Honestly Honda is terrible at giving people what they want. It took 30 years of asking to get the 450L. Granted they are getting better, but the turnaround is still much worse than the competition. For a company with the resources Honda has there is no excuse for the AT to have what is probably the worst offroad oriented TC in the industry (I know new ADV riders that specifically sold their Africa Twins and bought another bike for that reason alone). Honda is also one of the few remaining brands where you cannot readily turn those things off. They also keep turning themselves back on with key switch off/on (thankfully there are finally some third party dongles). After several years of asking the Africa Twin finally got tubeless (that took 8 years). When the competition is sending customers review sheets at the end of the purchase year and turning around those requests in less than three years that is not competitive. It is minor but how long have reviewers been grousing about the location of the horn button?
@@jorgminnaert8135 Here in the U.S. we don't get the Hornet 750, the Hornet 1000, X-ADV or even the NT1100. Of course we all know Honda could care less about the U.S. market, that's why we usually only get one choice of colorway even when Honda makes a bike in 4 colors.
As someone who tours a lot without CC, im always surprised how big a deal, riders view cruise control as a deal breaker on an adventure bike, (regardless of whether its used as a adv ) a must have on a full tourer, I'd understand.
Thank you for the video! I am undecided what Honda bike to get, NX500, Translap etc. I am keen to do some off roading in Portugal also (I am from the UK but spend many months in Portugal each year). What would you recommend for a new rider?
I don't care too much about cruise control. Tubeless wheels, yes. My biggest gripe is the suspension. Mine is way too soft, why haven't they given us adjustable stuff. The mt450 is fully adjustable. I was searching for a replacement shock for mine yesterday. Come on honda.
@@rosskoko100 Exactly, I have 107 kg, and I test drive the transalp, after every pothole I was wobbling up and down 3 to 4 times , it was very unpleasant and uneasy feeling. If I ever buy it I would upgrade the suspension. My v-strom 2021 650 XT is pretty stiffer , and as am I told much stiffer than previous gen v-strom. But I like more upright seating on transalp and lighter feel and that is more off-road capable. Funny thing that when I sit on a transalp ground clearance is about the same as v-strom because transalp tanks a lot.
my biggest gripe also. massive gripe ! once I had mine completely rebuilt I think its become one of the best mid weights on the market. You can absolutely rip on this bike on road and on moderate dirt terrain with its fantastic lusty engine and strong brakes and can take it down some pretty gnarly terrain as well with appropriate sump protection and tyres. A Fantastic bike let down by poor product management from Honda
As a man in his 50s who like to go photographing stars on mixed road surfaces, the NC's cubby hole is ideal to keep my camera and lenses safe including during stops at shops. A scooter is safe too but the ride isnt ideal.
Completely agree. I use a fairly large tank bag on my Tiger for precisely that reason. It's great being able to get to stuff like cameras without having to get off the bike. Yes, all scooters are uncomfortable. Thanks for your input, ride safe :)
New transalp looks way better IMO, especially that new black one which makes the black plastic at the front less noticeable. I'd buy one if I didn't have a Himalayan 450 already. Maybe I'll get one used in a few years.
@RocketMan_Moto Yes, that's it. I had forgotten the exact title of this benefit 😅. The Honda engineer who came up with that feature surely is still on the design committee it seems.
To be honest, as a current gen owner, i am not sure which front look i like better. With this new I'd prefer headlights to be a bit bigger probably. With my gen, the light is physically one, but there are 4 sections that make the headlight look unique. The main updates should have been cruise control and tubeless tires definitely. Nice color options though...
I run a Tiger 800xrt. Cruise control, tubeless rims and many more standard fitment. A 2017 bike. Considered a new bike earlier this year but decided to keep the money in the bank as everything I like I already have. If Triumph included all these options years ago it baffles me Honda don’t on the Transalp. A bike I considered.
I agree, but there is quite a price difference between the Tiger 900 and the Transalp. That said, the new Tiger Sport 800 could be a threat to the Transalp. Thanks for your input, ride safe :)
comfort seat option for the nc750 hah, should be mandatory. The translap needs two versions, a more offroad version with the 21 wheels and a more dual purpose with 19 wheel on front. this is also true for the Africa twin. Also, why no eclutch on translap!
I'm a big Honda fanboy (owned 6 Hondas so far, right now a crf250r for Motocross and a xr 650 r for dualsport/ hard adventure style riding) I would buy a transalp in a heartbeat to replace my BMW f800 if it had cruise control. I can do without the tubeless rims, I would like them though, but I want cruise control for long days on the Autobahn to get to a country, in which I can actually do the type of riding I want to do. Right now I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a Kove 450 and an Aprilia Tuareg 660. Both bikes Honda should be making a decent competitor for, but they refuse for some reason. I need a crf450rl rally and a transalp with cruise control and dedicated off-road suspension...
@@richardhretczak536 Idk, there are exactly 2 Kove dealers in Germany, and the closest one is over 4h drive away from me. I can do with a Racebike without having the support of a dealer, but not with a daily rider. And the KTM engine is not known for being reliable tbh. The bike is just to much of an unknown quantity right now. But an 800x rally sure does sound interesting to me.
One can easily add a third party cruise control. The point of the Transalp is it is a middle weight adventure touring. Many people don't want a bigger and 《heavier》 adventure touring. In that sense, the Transalp and Africa Twin are not competing for the same buyer, so Honda should wise up to that fact.
So the little birdie from around a month ago, that talked to you, provided false hope! How sad, I was looking forward to the new era of modern Transalp. Now I have a dilema: either prehistoric but extremely reliable Suzuki V Strom 650 (tubeless) or Transalp 2024. They are both very affordable now (8000.- vs 9000.- €) and are perfectly equped to deal with the sort of journeys Itchy Boots does. Thanks for the video on the Transalp. The best one so far from Eicma.
@@903lew I think TA is objectively better. Better brakes, stronger engine, higher ground clearance, brighter ligts... Even the design is nicer. V Strom from the front is a crime against everything we hold beautiful. However riding a bike that was deliberately designed to deny the rider perfectly affordable satisfaction makes the model almost unacceptable on moral grounds.
@@albertjurcisin8944 I don’t know if I agree regarding the aesthetics and in regards to all the other points yeah, but it’s priced accordingly. The Vstrom is ‘just’ a really good bike. It takes you places. It starts and stops and if you want to add bags it’s got enough engine and strength of subframe. Engine is a classic and just works. Proper V-twin if that’s important. When they discontinue it one of these years I’m fairly sure we’ll miss it.
@@RocketMan_Moto Aha, I thought you were invited to Eicma. I must have misunderstood something in "the little birdie video". But now your video makes perfect sense. You were open in your opinions far beyond the the point of servility clearly present in the videos of some "pampered" creators. Thanks for that, it is very valuable for less informed bikers.
Thank you for this great video, I was waiting for this year transalp release , I thought Honda would put tubules tire and cruise control , well it's another disappointment from Honda but I would not buy the transalp , I think at this point I would go with Suzuki or something else, thank you for very good video.
Missed opportunity. No tears, gives me another year to save money to buy one once tubeless and cruise are finally available. Meanwhile, I’ll keep on enjoying my magnificent Cb500x.
Loved mine. Then bought a Tracer 7....and now a Tiger 850 Sport. Couldn't fault the CB 500 x other than limited power output for longer distances. Tracer was excellent but was written off. Really enjoying the Tiger but don't feel as connected to it as I did with the CB, although it's early days
sold my 2024 nc due to rough dct transmission. especially in the city. they say that they have now improved something in terms of gearboxes. I can't find that information anywhere :/
Hm, I was hoping for a higher seat height for the NC as I have a 36” inseam. Maybe the comfort seat will have more padding raising the seat height by a couple of cm ? My big surprise from Honda was the GB350, I like the retro looks and see it as a good (i.e. more reliable and trustworthy) alternative to the 350 from RE.
The most impressive thing for me is that the NC 2025 is nearly a thousand euro cheaper than the 2024 in France. For me its like a forza 750 but more affordable with real bike sensation. Honda nailed all their 2025 models for me even the GB350S.
I have no interest in in cruise control. I have a Crampbuster on my throttle and have had no problem doing two-week trips traveling thousands of miles. The Crampbuster works on city streets and the highway. My hand is always on the throttle, ready to respond if something jumps out at me. Any time I'm in traffic, I have two fingers on the brake as well.
@@RocketMan_Moto I've been using the Crampbuster for about 17 years now. I don't even think about it anymore. I just hook my fingers on the throttle and rotate my hand. The heel of my hand presses on the Crampbuster. Works with winter gloves. If needed, I can just flip it up and out of the way.
A choisir entre les deux ? et bien je choisi une troisième moto : la VOGE 900 DSX ! Sans aucune hésitation ;) Pour info, j'ai été possesseur des deux Honda (NC et Transalp) et maintenant je possède la VOGE...
Honda is still pushing their complex DCT, while I just read that (in Europe, at least) Yamaha will introduce an auto-manual trans (with cruise control) for the '25 MT-07. I'd imagine that transmission will find its way into other models. I like the idea of quick-shift buttons on the left grip, or fully-automatic operation (I have arthritis in my wrists and hands).
i rode a nc750x and i found its motor to be very agricultural, bike was almost new so it was in top shape and yet riding it along it felt like it vibrated a lot and rattled, as i was riding along i felt i was rolling on a boulder. Is that a normal feature of these parallel twins or is the nc750x engine especially unrefined?
I commute on a 2017 DCT NC750X. A better option I would struggle to find IMO. Apart from the headlight. It’s awful. I’ve just fitted a set of auxiliary spots which have made things much safer.
I think the NC750 is getting better, I did find the power enough, BUT they still use that "lawn furniture" swinging arm, its awful, looks awful lazy design and rust really easily. Yet they have a swinging arm from one of the Honda Integra 750 ready that fits and looks so good.
I was really hoping for cruise control on the NC...I've finally saved enough $ for a new bike this year(don't like credit)but sadly, Honda, you've lost a sale.
i always wonder if upgrades are aimed at getting previous owners to return or attract new buyers ? ..personally i would never buy a model that i have previously sold due to its limitations or issues . i think Honda need to update the Africa Twin the awful dash and switch gear , then perhaps maybe ill give one a go .
Bit disappointed with the news about the NT 750. Was hopeful they would tweak the power as was contemplating buying one. Low power is probably engineered in to its under squared design so would need a different engine I guess for those wanting more HP.
I am one of thoose people who will never again buy tubed tires. Tubeless is more safe when a puncture occurs. I have had punctures in both types of tires, and the puncture with the tubed-tires was traumatic. Total and direct loss of pressure while driving around a 130km/h is no fun. To say the least! But I see that in fact tubeless tires are now an option. Which is very good!
@@marklevy9 but then it wouldn’t be an NC. Put the Transalp engine in and the Frunk goes which is a major selling point. In 2020 Honda registered a patent for a new upgraded/more modern NC engine which many guessed would be a 800 or 850cc giving more power but Honda seem to have sat on their laurels.
@ i think the NC is a great bike - but engine is very dated - the suspension on the CB500X (SFBP) are way better. The frunk was great - agreed - i gave up on the NC’s when they dropped the seat height
Nu înțeleg de ce nu oferă opțiunea unei cutii DCT pentru Transalp! Ar fi o decizie mult mai ușoară pentru cei care-și doresc cutie automată, dar vor ceva mai mult decât NC750X, însă nu-și permit Africa Twin. Sper vă vor luat în considerare măcar în viitor.
That would be great, but it would involve completely redesigning the NC, which they're never going to do at this late stage in its career. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
Guys, we get air temperature on the screen for 2025, be grateful! ;) Honda did a tour through Europe to ask what riders want for the 2025 Transalp. Each and every video, posting and rider states: tubeless, cruise control! Honda did not listen. And why bother developing the e-clutch, which could be mounted on every Honda - when you don´t mount it on any Honda except one? I am really disappointed. I know the business strategy behind it, but I will not buy the Africa Twin. For me it feels too heavy, top heavy, big and chunky and almost too high to swing my leg over. So as a Honda guy I regret to have to choose another brand. Most likey a Moto Guzzi V85TT, they even deliver shaft drive in this class. And this thing drives straight to the heart. We will see.
The image of the Honda nc750x in Turkey is strongly associated with fuel efficiency, much like the reputation for fuel-saving often seen with long-haul trucks. However, its 58 horsepower is notably insufficient. It feels to me as exciting as driving a fiat egea 1.6 with diesel engine.
The NC look nice, had a nice upgrade, probably has cruise control. The Transalp needs tubeless, riders dont want to change a tube in the midle of the road. The Trident has cruise control now, tiger sport 660 will have it to probably, and if they realease the tiger 660 rally it would be amazing
@@mariojorge547 Which makes it even dumber lol. The NC is supposed to be commuter king. Of course it should have cruise control. Honda really isn't what it used to be IMHO. They now seem one of the worst brands for innovation. Pretty much their whole lineup now feels a bit long in the tooth.
@@mariojorge547so has the new Forza 750 but Honda have no interest in making the NC a great bike as it would probably affect the sales of the two scooters, the Transalp and the NT1100 which all cost more.
Damn shame the NC doesn't have cruise control as an option - it's standard fit on the new ADV750 and Forza 750 which are basically the same thing but with more plastic! Triumph seems to have gone a bit more trigger happy on cruise so I was hoping Honda would follow suit. Also not a fan of the new Transalp aesthetics, just a baby Africa Twin now rather than having its own character...
Just hit 600 miles on my 2024 Norden 901. First service is due, maybe I will just trade it in instead since it's only good for another 600 miles before the valves, crank & pistons all disintegrate, explode & it flings me over a cliff. Plus I won't be able to get parts in a few months after the bankruptcy. 🙄😒😁😁😁
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Confusion surrounding tubeless & cruise on the new Transalp. I based this video on the UK press release sent to me this morning, which made no mention of either. However, some keen-eyed viewers in other countries have commented that their Honda websites are saying that tubeless & cruise control will, in fact, now be offered. Misinformation really isn’t my thing, so I apologise for any confusion inadvertently caused😐
@@RocketMan_Moto corrected news, is good news! Maybe, one issue, remains. How to get to the air filter!??
@@davidmallia628 Yes, let's hope I was misinformed :)
Surely we can only say Honda missed a trick not fitting tubeless, if more buyers wanted tubeless than tubed, without the figures on both we won't know. If I wanted an adventure bike to go adventuring, I personally would welcome tubed tyres.
I sold my transalp 750 for two reasons, no tubeless and no cruise control. Yes I knew that before I bought the bike but after one puncture and being unable to repair it + a few long days on the motor way without cruise control sealed the deal for me and now im back on a Tracer 9GT which is the perfect bike for me.
I think many owners did the same
I do see quite a few very low mileage Transalps for sale.
Apart from the aesthetics (which are personal preference) and the low max load (which only comes into the picture if you’re a bigger fella) the Tracer 9 really is a great package. Same goes for the Tracer 7 really. Brilliant bikes from team blue.
Bmw F750GS addresses both those issues.
@@chrishart8548 "German" bike with Chinese engine -That would be a deal killer for me.
You are spot on! I was totally ready to upgrade from my 2017 Africa Twin until I realized the Transalp was lacking the tubeless and the cruise control.
Disappointing. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
So, you really overlooked front dual disk brakes, surely the most important upgrade to NC750 :))))
Oops, my bad😬
About the only “upgrade” - i have had NC’s in the past and the single disk was just fine - using the Hornet / Transalp engine would have been an upgrade
@@marklevy9 If they use the engine from Hornet, then it's not an NC anymore isn't it?
@@marklevy9 that would not gonna work for so many reasons. This engine design allowed them to pivot the block and make room for the compartment and of course do to an ex car engine its low rpm with extreme low fuel consumption, what the transalp engine have not.
@@marklevy9 So far I have read in Motoleaks, Honda is developing a Hybrid motor for the X-ADV. A revolutionary motor wich combines 3 motors in one. 2 electrical (one for town and the other for highway) and a normal combustion motor (wich also loads the batteries). I assume that this will be fitted into the same chasis of the Forza 750 and the NC 750. The revolutionary thing is that it will only consume 1 liter per 100 km. But I do not expect it in the coming four years (wich I think will be the lifespan of this 2025 model).
Glad to see they are keeping the NC750 in the lineup. It's a really practical bike all around bike that is great for touring
Agreed👍😊
These days not having tubules tires is a big miss. I recently got a flat on my T120, that resulted in killing half a day to get a ride, get my trailer and retrieve the bike. A flat earlier this year on my Tiger meant 15 minute plug repair and I was on my way. This has me rethinking my T120 or at least where I will ride it.
Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
I've seen a tube repaired in under 2 minutes. You just need to carry the tools.
@@gasdive I, like most have neither the skill or desire to perform that roadside fix. Want tubeless tires instead.
@@tompGA "most" riders these days are over 60 and we all started riding before tubeless tyres existed. So "most" can do a tube repair.
I think it's perfectly fine to not want to though. I certainly had a great deal of trepidation upon being faced with my first tubeless flat. With night falling, alone, a hundred km from mobile reception I was a little nervous.
But I learnt the skill of how to ride 200 km home on a flat front. (A slight weave did the trick, as the bike was unstable in a straight line, but tracked nicely with a little curve). None of my tyre repair tools helped a cracked wheel hold air, so it was that or walk!
@@gasdive On the rear wheel of a Triumph sans centre stand?
No tubeless equals madness.
They even make the wheels for the Africa Twin...
Ride safe 👍
Agreed. Difficult to understand.
They know if they fix tubeless on the transalp the customers will not buy the more expensive Africa twin
@@max30888 Rubbish. I would still buy the Africa Twin! But might have also bought a Transalp.
Good review as always. Still got my TA 11k miles, added cruise (didn’t need to splice into the brake cable), converted rear wheel to tubeless and replaced rear shock. It’s made a great bike better. I will take the risk on the warranty (it’s a Honda not a BMW, Ducati or Triumph) S regards insurance I’m not convinced it wil be an issue, may only it with it off, but only worth less than 5k now anyway.
I think the insurance thing is quite country-specific
1:47 The NC looks great in this green. It needed fatbars and a four-way adjustable screen. Nick
I'd probably go for the green
Having now tested a Voge DS900X AND a Transalp I think the Voge is the better bike with superior ride and handling, especially with a pillion. My only concern with the Voge is Warranty support (local dealer has a strong reputation).
However, other than weight the DS has much more equipment, better parts and a longer warranty. The Honda may have got my hard earned cash IF it had cruise and tubeless (which is MUCH less hassle) but not a chance now…..Honda need to up their game!
The Voge does look good. No dealers near me, unfortunately. Ride safe :)
Beside a weight of 900 Voge it seems like a great choice for the money.
Tubeless tyres are essential in my opinion are a dealbreaker/maker. I have a CB500F which had a nasty thin black piece of wire puncture the rear tyre . Put the bike on the centre-stand ,drag out the puncture repair kit from the top box,do the business.No need to disassemble the rear end of the bike ,put in a new tube and get covered in chain grease etc.
Cruise control with all the revenue gathering speed cameras we have in Australia 🇦🇺. I have adaptive cruise control in my car. Yamaha Tracer 9GT has it - brilliant.
Thanks for your input 👍😊
Always enjoy your videos. Factual, to the point and not worried about pointing out the negatives. A trait that’s steered me away from other UA-camrs.
Thank you😊👍
But still no cruise control. Why Honda? Why?
Inexplicable🤷♂️
Very weird as the X-ADV 750 has it this year 🤷
@@TheDervManBecause it's their top of the line scooter type bike. Afrike is top of the line adventure and that's why they don't want Transalp to have it. Very simple when looking from business perspective.
And that is why Chinese are taking over🤷
That new twin brake up front needs a mention. I have a 2014 NC750X and if I could change one thing it would be that. Well done Honda. And great vid. Thanks
You're right, I failed to mention the second brake disc, and it is important. Completely changed the front end of the CB500X when they gave that a twin-disc setup a couple of years ago. Thanks for your input :)
I installed a Viridian Cruise on my 22 NC750X DCT. This made it a very nice road bike.
I’m sure it did😊👍
Have you had a chance to use it? Planning to do the same.
I always smile at seat heights because its not the seat height that gets me, being 6ft tall, it's actually getting aboard in the first place being in my seventies. I tried an NX in May and struggled so much I bruised the inside of my right leg on the passenger grips getting on it and pulled a hamstring getting off it. Sounds comical but it was really painful I loved the bike it didn't love me.
I hear you!😊👍
My 2014 NC feels unfortunately like a brand new bike after last service... Yes, it misses TFT, LED, has no rider modes, but I still enjoy it very much.
Even sold my hornet. The curviest roads i prefer to ride do not need more power, maybe just sometimes, for overtaking faster bikes ... :D
The new transalp and hornet headlights are unfortunately not fitting my preferences.
Did you notice the rebirth of smaller bikes? Suzuki DR-Z4S , BMW GS 450 ... I am looking forward to this trend!
I wouldn't want a TFT or rider modes. Wouldn't the LED headlight from the next version drop straight in anyway. Looks like on the cb500x it would. When I was looking they had both bikes side by side.
400-600cc seems to be the flavour of the year
My 80.000 km 2015 NC also still feels brand new. I also have the same experience on the narrow twisties, NC does great there
Honda could have tweaked the 750cc to provide higher hp/torque numbers at higher revs. Marketing gimmicks really, the 69Nm/4750rpm is what you use on the road with legendary reliability and fuel consumption.
I've been seriously considering this as my next bike but the lack of cruse control and tubeless tires are sadly a deal breaker :(
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You got it wrong on the suspension, mate! The rear shock offers more damping now. Only the front forks, which were already great before, now have a slightly softer tune. The overall suspension setup (balance) is now better.
So the new Transalp now has the correct amount of rear damping. Unlike the NX500
Hope so!👍😊
have they actually made a change to 2025? More damping is handy but wont help fix the problem.
The rear end is woefully under-sprung (ie; 40% sag for an 80kg rider at FULL preload) so needs to be re-sprung and re-tuned for western markets.
The forks only have a single damping cartridge in one leg as well as being terribly under-sprung as well. The 2022/23 bike must be one of the softest bikes on the market = a borderline dangerous bike to ride hard, bottoming out on even rougher asphalt roads.
If they have improved this it would be good to get some information out to the masses.
@emveeess839 what have they designed the bike for a 60kg rider
Agree about the attractions of tubeless (and I had a Mk1 XLV600 Transalp on which I had multiple adventures, both on and off road, including supermoto racing, 'back in the day'; those early rims were notorious for rotting, as were those of the early Dominator 650s). I'm not so bothered about cruise control - I did 12,000 miles on my Africa Twin 1100 without using it once! I'm surprised you didn't mention the huge difference in power between the NC750X and the Transalp: 58bhp vs 90bhp! The big attraction of the Transalp 750 for me is that it's so much lighter than the Africa Twin, yet has almost as much power. If you drop an Africa Twin, it's a bastard to pick up; if you drop a Transalp, it's no harder to pick up than an air-cooled single-cylinder Dommie 650 (guess how I know?!). The Transalp is also a hell of a lot cheaper than an Africa Twin! As for the NC750X's lack of power, with 'only' 58bhp, everything is relative. Remember, the original Honda CB750 of 1969 only had 58bhp, as did the original Triumph Triples and the fire-breathing Kawasaki 500 triple two-strokes only had 60bhp...I'm also into maxiscooters and the porky Suzuki Burger King 650 only has 55bhp and the rapier-like Yamaha Tmax a piffling 46bhp, but both will crack the ton with ease...I loved the quirky Vultus, with the same engine as the NC and now I really want to have a go on a Forza 750...
I really like my Honda ADV 350 with its ‘pathetic’ 30hp, use it every day at least once or twice. I’ve tried the Forza 750 briefly and it is rapid. Pity it’s so expensive, though, and under-seat storage is half what the 350 offers🙁 Thanks for your input😊👍
@@RocketMan_Moto Shocked to hear about the Forza 750's limited underseat space - that's one of the big pluses of the Burgmen, both 400 & 650, room for 2 full-face helmets. I rather fancy an ADV 750 because it would make some kind of ultimate off-road maxiscooter. However, it's a shame about the 15in rear wheel because AFAIK there aren't any 15 inch tyres available with proper off-road capability. (I did hear of a Greek guy who modified his to take a 17in rear and then raced it in the Gibraltar to Greece rally with considerable success!). I actually did a considerable amount of trail riding on my old Honda CN250 Helix, despite its 10 inch road rear wheel!
Oh be still my heart and wait for confirmation on the tubeless option from the Honda dealer in my city. But if RM's update on the tires and CC are true, then, well, just take my money already! I was however incorrect about the switchgear in my earlier comment. The left switchgear looks indeed identical to the NX500 one, but where on the NX500 that button is for switching off the TC, on the TransAlp this button has been repurposed for the Mode switch. The little button under the ignition switch is for the hazzard lights. I'm also happy to see ambient temperature on the clock, bat can't figure out what else has been changed on the display. Honda websites in Europe are confusing though, some say it has CC, some say it doesn't even have a quickshifter. No consistency and a lot of "temporary" information I think. And configurators always seem to link to the 2023 model. I feel like a kid before Xmas. No patience at all... :)
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I bought an Africa Twin AS in part because it has tubed tires. In the last 17 years, I've ridden about 100, 000 miles and had exactly one flat. I picked up a utility knife blade through the carcass of the rear tire of the ATAS. I do not believe I could have plugged that gash in the tire, so if I'd been on a long trip with tubeless tires, I could have been in trouble. I believe I could have patched the tube. As it was, I had a spare tube at home, so I changed the tube. I don't have a compressor, so I can't set the bead on a tubeless tire. I can, however, inflate any tubed tire with any air pump, allowing me to change my own tires.
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Absolutely right on the tubeless, I have now discounted Transalp because of this!!
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Couldn't agree more with your appraisal about the Transalp. 3 things I would like to see is cruise control, tubeless tyres AND adjustable windscreen. Doing highway work I like the screen to offer more wind/weather protection, then be able to put it down when doing slower speeds, particularly in our warm weather here in Australia. I'm NEVER going to buy an Africa Twin so Honda will potentially miss out on my money as I am in my mid 60's looking to downsize to a more manageable bike to meet my needs. Here's hoping Honda listen regarding the next reiteration.
Have you fitted the optional wind deflectors? They’re very good👍
I have a 2024 Transalp. I can survive with the tires and Im aftermarketing a cruisecontrol. But what really annoys me is the incredible bad headlight. Its worse than an old flashlight from the 80s. Sure I am installing auxilliary lights but they will only help when I blast fully with my lights. Something I cannot drive around with when meeting traffic.
Maybe this new headlight will be better?
Being able to plug my own tire while in the middle of nowhere is more important to me than cruise control (which I can add). But what I wanna know is, does the user programming resets every time you shut the key off? Now THAT is an annoyance that is keeping a lot of buyers from pulling the trigger. (along w/ no tubeless). Cheers and ride safe!!
Good question👍
you always can raise the seat height comfortably with a million of different kind of cushions on the market. I have used airhawk for many years and it can raise it near an inch easily and your butts will appreciate it greatly.
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The first thing a YT reviewer will talk about is the horsepower produced by a bike. That's probably reasonable as a lot of motorcycle purchasers care a good deal about that. There are however a group of buyers who don't care. I have a 2014 NC750X that I bought last year. I'm not in the least emotionally attached to it but I love the kind of riding it's so good at. It's not powerful and the suspension is budget but for running errands and general commuting, it's as good as it gets. I love how the motor is a long stroke design that is so well behaved at 2000 rpm putting around town. I can't think of another 750 cc bike that uses less fuel than the NC. Performing a valve adjustment can be done by the owner with not a lot of fuss. The other thing I would say about the NC is that it doesn't really have competitors. If you want a middleweight naked, there are lots of choices. Ditto with middleweight or premium adventure bikes. This may not apply in other parts of the world (I'm in Canada,) but there really aren't any other models quite like the NC750X.
Power is usually what I look at first, yes. Thanks for your input👍😊
@@RocketMan_Motosometimes it might be very misleading. I think it applies to NC750X. I got mine 2022 (standard tranny) 3 months ago and having Tracer 900 GT at the same time I still can’t believe how much fun this bike can be. And that’s 58 vs 115 HP…
The NC new instruments don’t even give the ambient temperature, even my 2022 adv 350 does, I like to know the temperature 😊
Me too. I appreciate having ambient temperature on my Tiger and ADV 350👍😊
I'm seriously disappointed that they didn't address the tubed tires issue. Had they fixed that, I would have put my order in this month. 😢 Now I'll have to wait for RM's testride of the Tiger Sport 800.
The new luggage for the TA looks worse than the old one. Fortunately that's still available. The new looks are a slight improvement, but not spectacularly so. Am not a fan of the huge lettering. The switchgear on the left looks the same as on the NX500, but is missing the mode button? And what's the button under the start engine switch?
There's a good chance I'll go for it despite the lack of tubeless, unless RM can report positive fact on comfort and knee angle on the TTS800, in comparison to the Transalp.
EDIT: after a second look, if this is indeed the controls taken from the NX500, then you can turn off traction control directly now. The button under the ignition switch looks like the mode button. Which I like. But still no peripheral bar in the cockpit? Why not?
I'm holding out a secret hope that maybe they'll add tubeless rims as an option in the configurator.
Tubed tyres put so many people off. I was sure Honda would give us tubeless this time around. Thanks for your input👍😊
Don't believe everything you hear from one person
Pinned post at the top of the comments......."@RocketMan_MotoConfusion has arisen re. tubeless & cruise on the new Transalp. I based this video on the UK press release sent to me this morning, which made no mention of either. However, some keen-eyed viewers in other countries have pointed out that their Honda websites state that tubeless & cruise control are, in fact, now being offered. Misinformation really isn’t my thing, so I apologise for any confusion inadvertently caused😐", He really should pull this video and address his mistakes....
I was waiting for a Transalp with tubeless rims, I will probably look elsewhere now because I don't want to wait another 2 years for the next revision
Don’t blame you
I would get the Nc750x but i'm 1.86cm 110 kg and people that drove are telling me that is not comfortable for taller people and also the bottom touches the speed bumps when you have a pillion on the bike...Otherwise perfect machine but i wish the made is bit better for taller people and with better ground clearance
Yes, the NC is really suited to riders of average build. It’s a bit small for me at 187cm
FINALLY, front double disc brakes on NC, but (unfortunately) the same (short) front and rear suspensions. As for Transalp, I think Honda is saving tubeless (with 19 inch front) tyres for a road oriented version which could arrive in a year or two. However, I doubt even that version will come with cruise control
I fear you could be right
Why no UPS forks?
Cost, I guess :)
I actually passed up buying an Africa twin because they took way too long to get here and when they did show up it didn't have any of the features that the dealership advertised to me. I was considering the transalp until the Africa twins did show up and I came to realize that the Africa twin isn't that much bigger than the trans alp and kind of left me wondering what role the trans alp actually fills. If I was looking for a lower CC bike I would probably lean towards the NC-750X if it wasn't for the fact that I've heard bad things about the suspension on that bike. Also for whatever reason all the ones that The dealers have are DCT for some reason and that's another big no for me.
Thanks for your input. The Africa Twin is quite a bit bigger and heavier than the Transalp, to be fair, but I take your point👍😊
Love the upgrades, bike is getting closer to what we want, but agree with most others that cruise and tubless are still deal breakers for me. Living in outback Australia they are essential.
tubeless in the outback could be a problem if the plug comes out or leaks. tubes can be repaired or replaced and the tyres are not that hard to get off the bead.
Totally get that. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
Thanks for your input :)
Tubeless is a necessity for remote solo riding. There is zero chance for most riders to fix a flat with a tubed tire on the side of a road.
Agreed
That semi hard luggage looks very interesting. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen it before. I think I’d really like it!
Yes, interesting option.
Unfortunately, Honda hasn't made the changes I wanted on the Transalp. I'm less bothered about cruise control but was hoping for a version with a smaller font wheel and tubeless tyres, ideally with alloys. I test rode one earlier this year and was hoping for such changes, but I'll look towards one of the road oriented versions of the Triumph Tiger 900 now.
The NC750X has the improvements I was expecting (twin discs, new instruments and adjustable screen), but I'm disappointed with it not having any more horsepower. I have this engine in a Forza 750, and its really torquey but could do with a bit more top end. All in all, the NC has had a much better upgrade than the Transalp.
Thanks for your input👍😊
I was sold on the Transalp until I rode it....I bought a Tiger 850 Sport instead, which isn't pretending to be anything other than what it is....a comfortable, road bike with adv styling (and tubeless tyres!)
You can get V Strom 800 with 19” front and tubeless tires. Btw I wonder what would be the percentage of rider that want 19” front vs 21”. The same applies to tubes vs tubeless. To me is pretty obvious but Honda might have problem with that.
Thanks for a good review. I’ve got a NC750S, goes stops etc but a little boring. The new one looks way better. I’m contemplating a new R1250R, I fancy a little more guts.
Nice power hike!👍😊
The TA front light is better but it’s still a bit weird! The “eyes” are too small and close together. It looks best from the side and that tells me that it’s not yet fixed . I’m a Honda guy but lusting after Suzukis like the SV650, 8S and DR-Z4S.
I agree it still needs a bigger ‘face’
I find so silly that Honda doesn't listen its customers and their requests. Tubeless and cruise are missing again. It's a shame, Honda wants to lose and it's their own choice.
The point is.....Honda isn't losing, they are in there second best year ever for motorcycle sales. Very good quality at a very competitive price. Look at the new Hornet 750 and Hornet 1000 prices.... bargains! Here in Belgium the Hornet 750 is cheaper then the CF-moto NK800 and comes standard with 5 year waranty.
Honestly Honda is terrible at giving people what they want. It took 30 years of asking to get the 450L. Granted they are getting better, but the turnaround is still much worse than the competition. For a company with the resources Honda has there is no excuse for the AT to have what is probably the worst offroad oriented TC in the industry (I know new ADV riders that specifically sold their Africa Twins and bought another bike for that reason alone). Honda is also one of the few remaining brands where you cannot readily turn those things off. They also keep turning themselves back on with key switch off/on (thankfully there are finally some third party dongles). After several years of asking the Africa Twin finally got tubeless (that took 8 years). When the competition is sending customers review sheets at the end of the purchase year and turning around those requests in less than three years that is not competitive. It is minor but how long have reviewers been grousing about the location of the horn button?
@@jorgminnaert8135 Here in the U.S. we don't get the Hornet 750, the Hornet 1000, X-ADV or even the NT1100. Of course we all know Honda could care less about the U.S. market, that's why we usually only get one choice of colorway even when Honda makes a bike in 4 colors.
As someone who tours a lot without CC, im always surprised how big a deal, riders view cruise control as a deal breaker on an adventure bike, (regardless of whether its used as a adv ) a must have on a full tourer, I'd understand.
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Thank you for the video! I am undecided what Honda bike to get, NX500, Translap etc. I am keen to do some off roading in Portugal also (I am from the UK but spend many months in Portugal each year). What would you recommend for a new rider?
Off-roading invariably involves some motorway riding here, and you’ll find the Transalp much more capable at this than the NX.
@@RocketMan_Moto thank you
I don't care too much about cruise control. Tubeless wheels, yes. My biggest gripe is the suspension. Mine is way too soft, why haven't they given us adjustable stuff. The mt450 is fully adjustable. I was searching for a replacement shock for mine yesterday. Come on honda.
I adjusted mine as far as it would go, but still felt too soft for my 90kg :(
@@rosskoko100 Exactly, I have 107 kg, and I test drive the transalp, after every pothole I was wobbling up and down 3 to 4 times , it was very unpleasant and uneasy feeling.
If I ever buy it I would upgrade the suspension.
My v-strom 2021 650 XT is pretty stiffer , and as am I told much stiffer than previous gen v-strom. But I like more upright seating on transalp and lighter feel and that is more off-road capable. Funny thing that when I sit on a transalp ground clearance is about the same as v-strom because transalp tanks a lot.
my biggest gripe also. massive gripe ! once I had mine completely rebuilt I think its become one of the best mid weights on the market.
You can absolutely rip on this bike on road and on moderate dirt terrain with its fantastic lusty engine and strong brakes and can take it down some pretty gnarly terrain as well with appropriate sump protection and tyres.
A Fantastic bike let down by poor product management from Honda
As a man in his 50s who like to go photographing stars on mixed road surfaces, the NC's cubby hole is ideal to keep my camera and lenses safe including during stops at shops. A scooter is safe too but the ride isnt ideal.
Completely agree. I use a fairly large tank bag on my Tiger for precisely that reason. It's great being able to get to stuff like cameras without having to get off the bike. Yes, all scooters are uncomfortable. Thanks for your input, ride safe :)
Nice vlog as always the transalp totally agree they have totally missed the boat .What on earth has that skateboard bod got to do with the bike .
I thought that🤔
The money we pay now u expect tubeless and cruise control 2 years ago would not have but things have moved on agree with u cheers
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New transalp looks way better IMO, especially that new black one which makes the black plastic at the front less noticeable. I'd buy one if I didn't have a Himalayan 450 already. Maybe I'll get one used in a few years.
Yes, a big improvement visually. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
Black crash Bars for the TA?
Love my 2024 plate TA and have managed 2000+ miles since buying her end of August.
Sport mode is a giggle ;-)
It's a great bike, but Honda should have gone a little bit further with the update, imo. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
@@RocketMan_Moto I wonder if the now confirmed tubeless option can be retro fitted to my 24 plate :-) I wish you well and safe journeys.
Love the new colours especially the black , but i think the new 2025 tenere rally has my money
It does look tasty. I just hope the seat is more comfortable than the current generation.
It looks great as a commuter but has no
Inspirational Adventure about it
Did they keep the nifty and useful throttle position sensor? That's a must have feature... 😅
Grip angle? I certainly hope so 🤞
@RocketMan_Moto Yes, that's it. I had forgotten the exact title of this benefit 😅. The Honda engineer who came up with that feature surely is still on the design committee it seems.
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No tubeless wheels and no cruise control is exactly why i never bought a transalp
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To be honest, as a current gen owner, i am not sure which front look i like better.
With this new I'd prefer headlights to be a bit bigger probably. With my gen, the light is physically one, but there are 4 sections that make the headlight look unique.
The main updates should have been cruise control and tubeless tires definitely.
Nice color options though...
Thanks for your input 👍😊
You missed the air temp at the dash! it something a lot of ppl had complained
You’re right. I appreciate having it on my Tiger, so it will be welcome on the new Transalp👍😊
@@RocketMan_Moto I found one for my transalp on Amazon but I need to open a hole at the console now… not ready for that 😂
I run a Tiger 800xrt. Cruise control, tubeless rims and many more standard fitment. A 2017 bike. Considered a new bike earlier this year but decided to keep the money in the bank as everything I like I already have.
If Triumph included all these options years ago it baffles me Honda don’t on the Transalp. A bike I considered.
I agree, but there is quite a price difference between the Tiger 900 and the Transalp. That said, the new Tiger Sport 800 could be a threat to the Transalp. Thanks for your input, ride safe :)
comfort seat option for the nc750
hah, should be mandatory.
The translap needs two versions, a more offroad version with the 21 wheels and a more dual purpose with 19 wheel on front.
this is also true for the Africa twin.
Also, why no eclutch on translap!
Yes, bit surprised about the eClutch
No cruise,No sale!
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I like the NC750X but as a long distance tourer it should have belt drive.
Thanks for your input, ride safe :)
I'm a big Honda fanboy (owned 6 Hondas so far, right now a crf250r for Motocross and a xr 650 r for dualsport/ hard adventure style riding) I would buy a transalp in a heartbeat to replace my BMW f800 if it had cruise control. I can do without the tubeless rims, I would like them though, but I want cruise control for long days on the Autobahn to get to a country, in which I can actually do the type of riding I want to do. Right now I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a Kove 450 and an Aprilia Tuareg 660. Both bikes Honda should be making a decent competitor for, but they refuse for some reason. I need a crf450rl rally and a transalp with cruise control and dedicated off-road suspension...
Yes, cruise is more important than tubeless for me, too👍😊
Perhaps Kove 800X might be better choice.
@@richardhretczak536 Idk, there are exactly 2 Kove dealers in Germany, and the closest one is over 4h drive away from me. I can do with a Racebike without having the support of a dealer, but not with a daily rider. And the KTM engine is not known for being reliable tbh. The bike is just to much of an unknown quantity right now. But an 800x rally sure does sound interesting to me.
Honda website in other regions have shown both tubless and cruise control as standard options
Interesting. Press release made no mention of either.
@RocketMan_Moto could be fake pictures I saw posted on Facebook . I don't see why they wouldn't make it available.
Portugal and Spain list cruise control as standard is the post I saw
One can easily add a third party cruise control. The point of the Transalp is it is a middle weight adventure touring. Many people don't want a bigger and 《heavier》 adventure touring. In that sense, the Transalp and Africa Twin are not competing for the same buyer, so Honda should wise up to that fact.
Thanks for your input😊👍
So the little birdie from around a month ago, that talked to you, provided false hope! How sad, I was looking forward to the new era of modern Transalp.
Now I have a dilema: either prehistoric but extremely reliable Suzuki V Strom 650 (tubeless) or Transalp 2024. They are both very affordable now (8000.- vs 9000.- €) and are perfectly equped to deal with the sort of journeys Itchy Boots does.
Thanks for the video on the Transalp. The best one so far from Eicma.
Can’t see that the TA does anything the Vstrom can’t and tbh I’d chose the Suzuki just to get tubeless tires. Cheaper to run and insure as well.
@@903lew I think TA is objectively better. Better brakes, stronger engine, higher ground clearance, brighter ligts... Even the design is nicer. V Strom from the front is a crime against everything we hold beautiful. However riding a bike that was deliberately designed to deny the rider perfectly affordable satisfaction makes the model almost unacceptable on moral grounds.
@@albertjurcisin8944 I don’t know if I agree regarding the aesthetics and in regards to all the other points yeah, but it’s priced accordingly. The Vstrom is ‘just’ a really good bike. It takes you places. It starts and stops and if you want to add bags it’s got enough engine and strength of subframe. Engine is a classic and just works. Proper V-twin if that’s important. When they discontinue it one of these years I’m fairly sure we’ll miss it.
Thanks, Albert. I’m not actually in Milan, though😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Aha, I thought you were invited to Eicma. I must have misunderstood something in "the little birdie video".
But now your video makes perfect sense. You were open in your opinions far beyond the the point of servility clearly present in the videos of some "pampered" creators. Thanks for that, it is very valuable for less informed bikers.
Thank you for this great video, I was waiting for this year transalp release , I thought Honda would put tubules tire and cruise control , well it's another disappointment from Honda but I would not buy the transalp , I think at this point I would go with Suzuki or something else, thank you for very good video.
Thanks for your input. Glad you enjoyed the video. Ride safe :)
Missed opportunity. No tears, gives me another year to save money to buy one once tubeless and cruise are finally available. Meanwhile, I’ll keep on enjoying my magnificent Cb500x.
The CB500X is a great bike👍😊
@@joachimfilms Same here!🤚🏼😃
Loved mine. Then bought a Tracer 7....and now a Tiger 850 Sport. Couldn't fault the CB 500 x other than limited power output for longer distances. Tracer was excellent but was written off. Really enjoying the Tiger but don't feel as connected to it as I did with the CB, although it's early days
On the Honda page, at least on the spanish one says that the transalp have cruise control, its a mistake?
I can confirm they say «cruise control: yes». Also in their portuguese website.
Interesting. No mention of it in the press release🤔
sold my 2024 nc due to rough dct transmission. especially in the city. they say that they have now improved something in terms of gearboxes. I can't find that information anywhere :/
I’m not a fan of the DCT, although I haven’t tried the new, improved 2024 version. Thanks for your input😊👍
Agree with you RM...no tubeless wheels...no purchase bike.
Yep🙁
Weird.. The portuguese bikes are getting cruise control.. But NOT in Belgium, Not sure about other countries You can check in on the Honda website.
It’s all very confusing
The guy with the skate board has got a long walk back up the hill to get his Transalp. 😀
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I think he can get a lift from the camera man😅
Hola, en la paguina web de Honda , SI que aparece con control crucero.
Really? It’s not in the press release🤷♂️
Hm, I was hoping for a higher seat height for the NC as I have a 36” inseam. Maybe the comfort seat will have more padding raising the seat height by a couple of cm ? My big surprise from Honda was the GB350, I like the retro looks and see it as a good (i.e. more reliable and trustworthy) alternative to the 350 from RE.
Yes, the 350 looks 👍😊
The most impressive thing for me is that the NC 2025 is nearly a thousand euro cheaper than the 2024 in France. For me its like a forza 750 but more affordable with real bike sensation. Honda nailed all their 2025 models for me even the GB350S.
Yes, these price cuts are great news, at least in the short term. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
I have no interest in in cruise control. I have a Crampbuster on my throttle and have had no problem doing two-week trips traveling thousands of miles. The Crampbuster works on city streets and the highway. My hand is always on the throttle, ready to respond if something jumps out at me. Any time I'm in traffic, I have two fingers on the brake as well.
Fair enough. I tried one of those things a few years ago and didn’t get on with it. Thanks for your input👍😊
@@RocketMan_Moto I've been using the Crampbuster for about 17 years now. I don't even think about it anymore. I just hook my fingers on the throttle and rotate my hand. The heel of my hand presses on the Crampbuster. Works with winter gloves. If needed, I can just flip it up and out of the way.
A choisir entre les deux ? et bien je choisi une troisième moto : la VOGE 900 DSX ! Sans aucune hésitation ;) Pour info, j'ai été possesseur des deux Honda (NC et Transalp) et maintenant je possède la VOGE...
La Voge me semble très intéressante, en effet. Seul bémol, pas de concessionnaire en Algarve :( Ride safe.
Honda is still pushing their complex DCT, while I just read that (in Europe, at least) Yamaha will introduce an auto-manual trans (with cruise control) for the '25 MT-07. I'd imagine that transmission will find its way into other models. I like the idea of quick-shift buttons on the left grip, or fully-automatic operation (I have arthritis in my wrists and hands).
Surprising we didn't get eClutch on these bikes this year. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
i rode a nc750x and i found its motor to be very agricultural, bike was almost new so it was in top shape and yet riding it along it felt like it vibrated a lot and rattled, as i was riding along i felt i was rolling on a boulder. Is that a normal feature of these parallel twins or is the nc750x engine especially unrefined?
It is a bit clattery, but I've had worse. Thanks for your input, ride safe :)
I commute on a 2017 DCT NC750X. A better option I would struggle to find IMO. Apart from the headlight. It’s awful. I’ve just fitted a set of auxiliary spots which have made things much safer.
Probably the best commuter bike on the market right now👍
Honda are notoriously bad at giving their customers what they want in my experience.
Seems that way🤔
NC750X is a bike I'd be interested in if you could buy one with the manual transmission here in the US.
Do you only get the DCT?
@@RocketMan_Moto Yes, that's our only choice.😪
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I have my NC 700x.... beautiful...and zero problems..with 49000km...I will never sell
Great bike. Enjoy :)
I think the NC750 is getting better, I did find the power enough, BUT they still use that "lawn furniture" swinging arm, its awful, looks awful lazy design and rust really easily. Yet they have a swinging arm from one of the Honda Integra 750 ready that fits and looks so good.
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Airfilter location ?
Air temprature indicator & milage to empty indicator ?
Still No Wingbadge
Still no DCT
...or eClutch - surprising. There is an ambient temperature display now, though.
I was really hoping for cruise control on the NC...I've finally saved enough $ for a new bike this year(don't like credit)but sadly, Honda, you've lost a sale.
They've definitely missed a trick... and a few sales. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
They should put the new triple in this.
Which triple are you referring to?
i always wonder if upgrades are aimed at getting previous owners to return or attract new buyers ? ..personally i would never buy a model that i have previously sold due to its limitations or issues . i think Honda need to update the Africa Twin the awful dash and switch gear , then perhaps maybe ill give one a go .
Yes, the AT definitely needs a new dash. I won't consider one until it gets one. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
As I mentioned before, you really need to take a spin on the V-Strom 1050.
Dealer here never seems to have one available. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
so Tiger Sport 800 still has it?
Happy with my 900 for the moment👍😊
Bit disappointed with the news about the NT 750. Was hopeful they would tweak the power as was contemplating buying one. Low power is probably engineered in to its under squared design so would need a different engine I guess for those wanting more HP.
Yes, a bit more power would have been nice
I am one of thoose people who will never again buy tubed tires. Tubeless is more safe when a puncture occurs. I have had punctures in both types of tires, and the puncture with the tubed-tires was traumatic. Total and direct loss of pressure while driving around a 130km/h is no fun. To say the least! But I see that in fact tubeless tires are now an option. Which is very good!
Yes, I’ve heard that a tubed puncture can be quite dramatic. Fortunately I’ve not experienced one personally👍
NC750X - pity the Hornet / Transalp engine was not used - i have had NC’s in the past - solid workhorses - but not enough IMO to make you “want one”
@@marklevy9 but then it wouldn’t be an NC. Put the Transalp engine in and the Frunk goes which is a major selling point. In 2020 Honda registered a patent for a new upgraded/more modern NC engine which many guessed would be a 800 or 850cc giving more power but Honda seem to have sat on their laurels.
@ i think the NC is a great bike - but engine is very dated - the suspension on the CB500X (SFBP) are way better. The frunk was great - agreed - i gave up on the NC’s when they dropped the seat height
Thanks for your input👍😊
"the magnificent grip angle"...I'm a man that appreciates unadulterated sarcasm. 🙂🙂
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Nu înțeleg de ce nu oferă opțiunea unei cutii DCT pentru Transalp! Ar fi o decizie mult mai ușoară pentru cei care-și doresc cutie automată, dar vor ceva mai mult decât NC750X, însă nu-și permit Africa Twin. Sper vă vor luat în considerare măcar în viitor.
At least an eClutch🤷♂️
@@RocketMan_Moto exact, măcar eClutch (astfel ar fi mai ușoară decât cu DCT și poate un cost mai mic de achiziție)
They should of put the transalp - hornet 750 motor in the nc 750x
They can't do that, it would defeat the whole purpose of the NC...
That would be great, but it would involve completely redesigning the NC, which they're never going to do at this late stage in its career. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
Guys, we get air temperature on the screen for 2025, be grateful! ;) Honda did a tour through Europe to ask what riders want for the 2025 Transalp. Each and every video, posting and rider states: tubeless, cruise control! Honda did not listen. And why bother developing the e-clutch, which could be mounted on every Honda - when you don´t mount it on any Honda except one? I am really disappointed. I know the business strategy behind it, but I will not buy the Africa Twin. For me it feels too heavy, top heavy, big and chunky and almost too high to swing my leg over. So as a Honda guy I regret to have to choose another brand. Most likey a Moto Guzzi V85TT, they even deliver shaft drive in this class. And this thing drives straight to the heart. We will see.
I agree. A missed opportunity🫤
The image of the Honda nc750x in Turkey is strongly associated with fuel efficiency, much like the reputation for fuel-saving often seen with long-haul trucks. However, its 58 horsepower is notably insufficient. It feels to me as exciting as driving a fiat egea 1.6 with diesel engine.
I was hoping for a bit more. 75 would be great.
The NC look nice, had a nice upgrade, probably has cruise control. The Transalp needs tubeless, riders dont want to change a tube in the midle of the road. The Trident has cruise control now, tiger sport 660 will have it to probably, and if they realease the tiger 660 rally it would be amazing
According to the website, the NC has no cruise control and I think that's really really dumb. Honda really dont know their market it seems.
@@UFGgamings but the 750 adv has it, same engine
@@mariojorge547 Which makes it even dumber lol. The NC is supposed to be commuter king. Of course it should have cruise control. Honda really isn't what it used to be IMHO. They now seem one of the worst brands for innovation. Pretty much their whole lineup now feels a bit long in the tooth.
@@mariojorge547so has the new Forza 750 but Honda have no interest in making the NC a great bike as it would probably affect the sales of the two scooters, the Transalp and the NT1100 which all cost more.
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Damn shame the NC doesn't have cruise control as an option - it's standard fit on the new ADV750 and Forza 750 which are basically the same thing but with more plastic! Triumph seems to have gone a bit more trigger happy on cruise so I was hoping Honda would follow suit. Also not a fan of the new Transalp aesthetics, just a baby Africa Twin now rather than having its own character...
Cruise would have suited the NC. I don't really get Honda's stubbornness. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
Just hit 600 miles on my 2024 Norden 901. First service is due, maybe I will just trade it in instead since it's only good for another 600 miles before the valves, crank & pistons all disintegrate, explode & it flings me over a cliff. Plus I won't be able to get parts in a few months after the bankruptcy. 🙄😒😁😁😁
Worrying times for owners🙁
No cruise control=epic fail in todays market.
Yup. Thanks for your input. Ride safe :)
And still no tubeless rims on the Transalp...
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