Parker Machinist Vise Refurbishment pt 1 TIPS 591 tubalcain mrpete
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- Опубліковано 9 сер 2019
- This PARKER vise was in much worst cond. than I thought when I bought it. Watch me attempt to refurbish it to its former glory. Part 1 of a 2 part video series.
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Wow, I might just go ahead and drill and tap a thread into the spindle of my vise for such a grubscrew-spring-contraption, that looks really handy! It's such a ridiculously simple idea, most people (including myself) would have never come up with it!
I'm surprised that you didn't use your milling machine to remove the casting edge from the base .
It would have made the vise set flat on your bench .
I always enjoy your videos and want to thank you for the time that you take in researching data to share with us .
I was thinking the same thing about machining the base flat, it would make the vise more stable.
I don't think Mr Pete likes to create unnecessary work for himself. He knows exactly where the vise is going to go (i.e. on the corner of his wooden bench) and there is presumably enough 'give' to accommodate minor imperfections in the surface of vise base. I suppose if the small central ridge bothers him it could be filed down easily and quickly.
I was wondering the same....
I bet he does it in part 2
That vise is designed that way so the static jaw will clear the edge of the bench.
That Flat goes up against the edge of the Bench.
Great Saturday morning viewing! Eager to see the finished project. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
You can never over do vise videos! Thanks!
Hello Mr. Pete! It has probably been mentioned but you should have a small brass puck on the other side of that spring going against that Parker handle. I have had several Parkers and that is how they came.
Thank you for doing this video Mr.Pete. It was a big help, you are appreciated Sir.
i have a 1930 or 31 31/2 inch parker that has a small steel disc between the spring and the handle.
The wallow in the ram looks deliberate. Like a work holding project that vise throat was not large enough to accomplish. Just a heads up weld filling that back in is best acomplished while it is in one piece. Thanks for the video.
Would be interesting to see your setup, if you were to mill the bottom flat. Great video.
Thanks for the video. I am doing a quickie overhaul of a Parker 272, swivel base and swivel jaw vise. Just yesterday found the screw in the handle spindle. Dug out a bunch of powdery dirt and pulled the spring out. The spring is pretty worn, will no longer lock the handle. Need to find a replacement spring. Need to work on the swivel jaw to get it operating smoothly. Any tips on that?
Excellent job of cleanup. That primer is really needed for a lasting paint job. See you in part 2.
Hello and a good morning to you. Never seen such a set screw on the vise handle.
Hey I was on the phone Friday with your favorite tool company had to buy replacement parts for micrometer, you came to mind right away.
Well that is some historic wear, this is a proud thing to share and put out on display, many things were made with that vise. Happy painting.
Lance & Patrick.
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Nice restore on that Parker Vise. That radius in the top of the ram is very strange. It looks like someone heated it and formed it in a press. The wrinkles one side did not clean up from grinding, the other side did clean up IMHO. I asked your question about this on"Vise Collectors Anvils & Clamps" a very good FB group of very keen Vise Enthusiasts.
THANK YOU...for sharing. Enjoyed.
I've had a cheap Chicom made 6" vise, for 20 years, it's good enough for what I do, keep up the Vice Vids.
Mr. Pete. Thanks so much for the video's you post. I just finished building a SA Steam "Wobbler" engine. It's fun to watch it run. I'll be starting a DA Wobbler soon. You remind me of my machine shop teacher from back in 1968....Thanks again, Carl
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m.....mmn.
this looks like an awesome vise...ill have to keep my eye out for one for my welding table.
Lucky you found one, I had to make my set screw.
Who else noticed the newspaper? "Don't worry, we're safe from killer robots"!
True quality work is done at the detail level. Nicely done.
I just picked up the same model but mine is missing the jaws. The rest seems in pretty decent shape. Mine had a flat tipped screw then a spring with a large end facing the screw and a small end facing the handle. Between the spring and the handle is a small disc. I can send you a picture if you wish.
Ahh...Kmart. Ours has been gone for several years.
Thanks.
Hi mr pete i have a parker 103 1/2 . but missing one of the jaw inserts. Whould you have any idea's. On how to pick one up or make one? Looks like a rough pattern to make.
Like the vice handle spring damping device. Thanks for sharing
K-mart gray primer lol....I almost start crying when I drive by the deserted store in my area the sign is gone and now it's a u-haul business...K-mart was a great store when I was a kid ..fun to shop in and listen to the great music they played
I remember when they built a K--Mart in our town. It was in the first modern shopping center. Every thing else was still down town. You had two choices run into K--mart and pick something up quick or go shopping at the down town department store. I sure miss the old style department stores. We had a nice one in our town. If you needed some new Sunday clothes or mom needed something for the kitchen there was always someone knowledgeable at the counter to help you make the right choice. And I forgot to mention they were friendly and asked how the family was doing. Yes I'm getting old. But I like it!
I suspect that the curvature built into the movable jaw was to accomidate pipes being held in the vise and the bad part of the casting near the curvature was slag not removed from the heat before it was poured.
Sir, what is the size of the spindle handle tension screw to set the handle. I have a Parker vise and mine is missing.
Wondering if you might be able to help me. I just bought a C. Parker No. D at an auction. It's in awesome condition but I cannot find any information on it? It has a different front on the main screw but looks all original. As well, the ends on the main tightening are are different like they were made to be removable but still look original and professionally made. Like I said, the vise is in great condition and I'd like to find out what I have...if you want pics, let me know how get them to you. Thanks!
Dean Tucker
I've always been surprised that folks pay hand over first for a Wilton and snooze on the Parker vises. I guess the secret's out now that you've made the endorsement sir. Great to see you at the Bash but sorry I couldn't find a moment to introduce myself and thank you in person for all the wonderful vids you've put up over the years. Keep the content coming!
Thanks yes
When you say "Do not try this at home" at the 11:12 mark, I smiled as I have already done that several times, albeit at a lower speed in my lathe.
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Looks good so far, but that base not being flat would bug me....lol.
Yes it would me too. I'd do something to it and make it better than new!
I'll second that, I would take a file to it and get it as flat as I could.
same i would def flatten it out.
I would carve out a place on the bench to fit it.
Mt Pete love you stuff - all of it, including all the vises and pliers. We just collect and talk about what we like, regardless of whether it makes sense to anybody else.
One thing though, I don't understand why, after complaining about it, you didn't simply take the casting seam off the bottom with a grinder.
I have a Parker bought it at a garage sale it’s about 50 pounds, has a stamp of 94 on the side. Won’t to dismantle it and clean it. It was just like my Grandpas , that a grew up with sitting on an old wood crate watching him for hours. Having a problem pulling out the sliding jaw. Pushed out the pin out of the nut and it to moves but only half way. I know enough not start pounding on it. Love your videos very informative and interesting. Looking for help thank you.
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I wonder if the "sway back" is to accommodate large pipe?
Good morning. Thought it was strange that the bottom wasn't milled flat. Was the big vice milled?
Good morning , make a floor stand for the big vice at bench height . Helps for long work.
I know it will pull into the wood when you tighten it, but I think I would mill the bottom. Thanks for the videos.
Great job Mr Pete. Just did my first vise clean up a Chas Parker 954 1/2 that my Pop owned. Just bought 4 more in the last week or so. I will have questions!
Holy macreral where are you finding all of these vises
@@mrpete222 , eBay, Facebook marketplace. Got Chas Parker 955, 954, 954, 103 3 1/2. Fun garage projects over the holiday break for me! Just Parker’s!
Nice job Mrpete. I was always annoyed by the vise handle sliding freely. Now I am able to solve this on my vises. Cheers
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@@mrpete222 Thanks
Happy Birthday Mr.Pete!
Great video. Thank you.
"And that's no yolk"
Thanks for sharing,
Cheers
Hi. Of which material is made that parker 954? Thank you.
A man of many vises!
I believe you said it yourself, Mr. Pete.😂
Hi Lyle,
Enjoyed the tear down and cleaning. Just wondering if you are going to take a grinding disk to that parting line on the bottom? I agree with you that Parker should have done that themselves.
Nope I want to keep it authentic
I use a short stiff compression on end ram. When vise is open, it’s slightly compressed against the wall. With both hands , I can position sheet metal for bending, I use my knee to tighten the vise. I use coil springs on all other vises. Saves time!
Bob
Great idea
The only vice I have is binge watching your videos😁
What??? To Be Continued??? I was waiting for the Big Reveal! I guess I'll have to wait till next time! I bet your going to paint it Candy Apple Red!!!
Great vid and information! Thank you sir!
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Hi Mr. Pete, is there a link to a reference that tells when the various models of Chas. Parker vices were made? Thanks.
Not to my knowledge
a rather interesting "walking" wire-wheel /grinder you have collected haven't seen many of those in decades
Nice job!
I think the 39 is a casting #?
And no I don’t wear gloves neither
Keep up the great videos!!!
The scars on that vise only make you wonder what sorts of parts have been thru its jaws. It probably helped us win the war. (Maybe more than one, is that a "39" or an "89"?)
What do you think of the red "rust inhibiting" primers?
Is it wrong to paint the ram?
You Cleaned up the vise
pretty well I think. What is amazing to me is that for the parker side-by-side double barrel shotgun that is so famous and truly a work of art that they could make a vise that is so badly manufactured. If it were mine I would dump it and get a Wilton.
I’m not a big fan of the Wilton’s
Thanks for sharing sir..
G'day Tubalcain. I've used a wire wheel in an angle grinder and ended up in the emergency department at the local hospital with 2 of the wire bristles lodged in my abdomen. Now I wear a leather apron when using one.
I picked many a wire out of the students cheeks.
Happy belated Birthday, Mr. Pete.
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Sir, if possible, can you tell me the size set screw you used for the handle "brake"? I just bought a Parker 974 to restore and it is missing the set screw. Thank you very much. I have scoured the internet and you are pretty much the only one who addressed this particular feature of the Parker vise.
I am in Wisconsin for a week. Contact me by email later
@@mrpete222thank you very much, I appreciate it.
I was sure you would machine the base flat, and the casting is quite rough overall. Was this a dedicated manufacturer?
Looking great. Maybe the vise depression was cast that way for more space. Nice vise. Hey, I did not try that at home but at work is another story.
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I don't think any of us are complaining about you presenting multiple vises to us lol...
Good work
That no 39 on the collar is to show it’s made to fit a no 39 Parker vise which is a 4 1/4 jaw and hence why the Parker would use it for both vises to save on parts needed.
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That low spot in the clamping jaw sure looks like it was cast like that from the factory.
Theres a parker vice mounted to the back of a truck at work that the roll pin is broken in there going to throw away in scrap so they think I'm going to clam it I think
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Looking for info on model 378
I toured a WW2 Gato class submarine the other day and the engine room vise was a Parker, non-swivel base. Looks just like the one you are doing.
Wow
Which one? In Manitowoc, WI?
@@milantrcka121 yes, the USS Cobia.
Did it happen to 'follow' you home? :)
Have you been rooting through my toolbox? 🤣
At 4:13, that looks like the Stanley screwdrivers I bought when I was in high school and still have today, 40+ years later. Consumer Reports at the time had actually slightly downrated one model of that screw driver because you could actually apply too much torque with the handle for anything to withstand. I don't remember if the shaft twisted or the screw head stripped out, but it easily accomplished all the normal screwdriver tasks.
A very good screwdriver, none the less.
as far as your friend Tommy goes, I thought you might have stolen the spark plug from his lawn mower 😆
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Is it possible the worn part of the arm is a casting defect?
@@Drottninggatan2017 That makes sense it does look like it belongs there.
I would have ground flat the "Parting Line" surface, where it meets the bench top, so the vise has full contact, and doesn't rock back & forth.
I love vises, and I also love restoring them. hard to imagine a company like parker not machining that bottom flat, it might make some sense if this was a rotating vise but this obviously is not. What a greap piece of shop tool history, I love the beefy construction on these old beasts. I told Adam Booth once id love to see him build an Abom sized vise from scratch--LOL
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I wonder if, given the way the bottom of the vise isnt flat, it might be a good idea to put three large thick washers under each mountiing hole, then you could tighten the bolts without fear of cracking the casting. Better yet machine the bottom of that sucker, make it sit like its supposed to.
I am looking for a old hand vice I would buy one from you if you have one Regards Gerald
Yuk, Yuk, I got the yolk ! Remember don’t force , just get a bigger hammer ! LOL ! Thanks for the video and the humor.
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Good morning!
I cleaned my handle the same way, turning very slowly on my lathe. 11:20
Luv the parker...I have 2 of them....IMO, surprised you showed the “do not” do this on the lathe as some moron will copy not understanding the danger
Great vids.....so the elephant in the room, r any of these vises first sale ??
Quick question, knowing that the base of the vise is not machined way didn’t you machine the vise?
Getting that casting set up on the mill would take all day, and a satisfactory job of flattening could be done with a hand grinder in about ten minutes. It doesn't have to be dead flat. At most, the mounting ears just need to be in solid contact with the bench. For that matter, a washer of the appropriate thickness under each ear would be a reasonable solution. It's a bench vise, not a precision instrument.
The wrinkling that you speak of is just part of the casting/ pouring of the materials I would imagine and the dip is for accommodating round objects, kinda like a seat
happy belated birthday Lyle
Parker said proudly their vice's were made out of parkco metal --- I've never heard that term before. I was surprised that they didn't even attempt to clean up the split pattern parting draft on the base.
On the moveable jaw of your vice with the abnormal wear, Why not add metal with a welder & then, machine it down to smooth before painting the rest of the vice. I believe you joked about ammunition being repetitively dropped down onto the slide? Anyways, I just wondered why no-one mentioned adding material by welding it & machining it?
Looks like a 39, or 89, I have no idea about the year.Maybe that's a part number.
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Howdy MrPete
Happy belated birthday. Cheers
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I had to pause when you where cleaning it over a newspaper, wanted to read the ads.
The ads? Man, there’s a story there about killer robots! That’s what I want to know about!
That reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode with Burgess Meredith.
Time to add a blasting cabinet to your arsenal?
Time for the Vice Squad to raid Mr.Pete.
So, you have a vice for vises? Thanks for the video ;)
I nominate Mr. Pete for Vice President of Vises.
I allways enjoy your vice videos no need to apologise
Hey. Just cause it has your name on it don't mean its yours. Lol
Well you surprised me - I would have thought you'd grind off the bottom a bit to prevent breaking off the ears. And, Is it me or is that a flaw in the casting showing up under the pressure of pounding repeatedly on the throat? We all know you could fix that with a welder but your not being a blacksmith or heavy vise user makes that a lot of work for "beauty". At our age, that's not something we need to spend much energy on. Still glad to see you on another project.
I have the No. 2x, Not bad condition.
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Until today, I had no idea that gaff occurred at service stations.
Oh believe me. I used to work at a service station. There was plenty of gaff going on.
Rattle Paint Can Trivia: The item that makes the noise in the paint can is a marble.
Also, they sell paint can grips that attach to the top of the cans to ease finger fatigue, painted finger tips, & better aim. If you must wear gloves, get nitrile gloves.
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Nitrile is good for everything except for paint stripper, then you need very thick butyl gloves and that only buys you time....
They put marbles in paint cans??? Get out!!!
I always use a pair of side cutters to de-gas the can to send to the scrap yard. I pull the marble out and put in a quart jar of thinner to clean them off. Have a ton of them from over the years
If you woul send Mrs. Pete to the store with credit cards and grandchildren you could have put the disassembled vise in her oven at 350 for a couple hours to remove the old paintg and grease.😁
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Lyle somebody modified the PARKER VICE by forging that dimple look inside and you will see 😎🐤
I so need a vice without all the swivel base BS. It sounds great but always a bigger problem than it's worth. I don't think they sell them anymore.
I do not like the swivel base
Mr. Pete... I want to do something incredibly stupid and very dangerous. I was told not to do it at home, so can I come over to your place and do it?
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They probably just through some paint on it to make it look good for the auction.